This game is shit. Every character I try plays slow as molasses

>>380637168
Holy fuck my dude, seriously git gud.

>this game is shit because im bad

Good thread my casual friend.

pick jack and shit on people with rocket punches

>>380637168
>Shit he has Rate!
>Better go charge in and attack!

You lack situational awareness.

>>380637168
>every character I play is slow while all characters my opponent plays are super fast
Try not playing on a decade old PC
>rage arts
Stop mashing buttons like a monkey and block

>>380638004
I mean when I'm halfway through my string and all looks safe he'll do it, it's bullshit.

>>380637654
I'm playing Paul because he's the all American with his flag jacket but all his punches are too slow.

My god. Why are there so many threads on so many forums/boards of people saying the game is shit because they're bad at it?

>I HATE THIS GAME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BLOCK LOW
>I HATE THIS GAME BECAUSE I CAN'T BLOCK THE INCREDIBLY HIGHLY TELEGRAPHED RAGE ARTS
>I HATE THIS GAME BECAUSE CHARACTERS WHO MOVE WEIRD

I really don't get it. You don't get this shit with Street Fighter or any other 2D fighter.

Is it just because this is most of the PC crowd's first experience with a real fighting game?

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>>380637168
>I'm shit at fighting games -OP

>>380637168
If you've never played fighting games before this is what it's like at the beginning.

>>380638446
You can't assume that kind of stuff. As soon. As you see that rage turn on go on the defensive. Wait for a whiff>launch>KO

Learn to backdash cancel.

You need to put times into fighting games if you want to learn the genre.

>>380638446
you can always hit just the first button of a string to bait shit out

>>380638508
No, I'm good at MKX and I played Tag 2, but everyone else seems way more fluid than my guy.

>>380638446
Not all strings are natural combos m8. If your opponent isnt being juggled you should be careful if the opponent has rage. Its surpringly easy to bait out.

>>380638641
Why do people say this? He'll still get his shit fucked by mashers even after 20 hours of kbd. He's much better off learning juggles/wallsplat/punishers that will actually help him at the low ranks he is.

>>380638729
Who the fuck is your guy?

If you're playing a big and slow fucker like Jack, that's why. He's big and slow.

If you're playing someone standard like Kazuya or Heihachi, is because they actually require a lot of skill to properly use. They aren't like Ryu where you can just hop in, do some uppercuts and do fine.

>>380638451
>You don't get this shit with Street Fighter or any other 2D fighter.
Except you constantly fucking do, you also get it with most Platinum and Clover games.

>>380639065
All those threads on not being able to block good in Revengeance were glorious.

>>380639260
Don't forget the professional and e-celeb reviews as well, most of whom couldn't figure out there was a dodge in the game on top of being too retarded to block/parry.

>>380638446

>I'm playing Paul because he's the all American with his flag jacket but all his punches are too slow.

Quarter circle forward+right punch. That's all you need and Demolition Man.

>>380639646
Yep. Also he got some dope counterhit shit off of sway, and using hopkicks for launcher is kinda important.

>>380638451

Welcome to the modern gamer where they want instant reward with as little effort required.

>>380639646
>Not mentioning down circle triangle.
It's like you're too high a rank to face shitters that fall for that all the time anymore

>>380639801

>Not mentioning down circle triangle

Anon, what move do you think Demolition Man is?

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>>380639801
I really love it when people try to talk despite clearly not knowing what they are talking about.

>>380638446
>opponent has rage
>pause for a second
>do a single low kick
>he'll panic mash his rage art
>block
>KO
There you go, got you out of 3rd dan

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>>380637168

>>380638446

>I mean when I'm halfway through my string and all looks safe he'll do it, it's bullshit.

Play more conservatively when they have rage up, got for safe moves. Pay attention to the life bar, if his lifebar is quite low then go for a strong powerhit and you'll blow through their rage art and KO them if sufficient damage and you have a bigger life lead and know the rage art won't kill you.

Also if it helps go watch Avoiding The Puddle vids on youtube for Aris explanation of certain system mechanics that the game actually does a horrible thing of explaining to you. The game does a really poor job of documenting wakeup moves/reversals/attacks.

>>380639947
>circle, triangle
It's 1,2 you novice.

>>380641570

>It's 1,2 you novice.

I think you mean 4,2 you novice.

>>380639019
This, for the most part. KBD is something that should be worked on, but for a beginner learning good pokes, punishers, and blocking should be top priority. KBD is great, but worthless if you can't convert whiffs into damage.

>>380637168
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RYn9kjlXHmU

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backdash cancelling and wavedashing is easy as fuck on keyboard/hitbox

How the fuck are you supposed to beat devil kazuya as Heihachi?

I get to his second phase easily enough but then he just gets armor on every fucking move and just powers through everything

>>380645943
Block and punish
Yeah he's still bullshit

>Enemy has rage
>Run at him and stop just before him
>He panics and uses RA

>Enemy has rage
>Move around like a crazy person
>He panics and uses RA

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I'm new but I dont know how to set the dummy in training mode to do a move after it blocked something. How the hell do I do this in this game?

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Is the PS4 input delay that bad? Am I wasting my money if I buy it?

I don't have a gaymen PC.

>>380646503
it's about the same if you play on pc with vsync on

desu the input delay isn't a big deal at all, because even if you play without vsync on PC, you will get natural input delay once you fight people online

>>380645943
when he gets the powah of the devil just block until he uses his super, he'll lose hyper armor then

>>380637168
Block. Your. LOWS.
https://youtu.be/CLrkHzXkdhc

>>380646792
PS4 Input delay is fucking garbage compared to PC. Go play Rocket League on PS4 or PS4 Pro and then try it on PC, and tell me you don't notice a difference. How about Overwatch, GTAV, RSS, etc. Difference is substantial.

wow you really convinced me with all of those hot opinions, anon.

It sounds like you're just bad.

>>380647902
Not OP but I never block lows because they come out too fast for me to react to and I'm too new to have memorized anyone's combos. Every time I do try to block low I fuck it up and get sent flying.

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>>380648572
Would it make you a better player by the end? You don't see the Koreans bitching about it on their streams. Neither do you see West players like Aris or TheMainManSWE.

Though, people like Aris and KingJae do prefer it on PC for better graphic options, matchmaking from launch, and input lag as said. They just don't let it get to them on consoles because they're not scrubs like you.

>playing without vsync
>vomitman.exe

>>380649557
>adding more input delay

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>>380647902
>mfw no one blocks Chloe's RA low
I'm sure that'll stop when I get higher up

>>380649760
>Meet a Lucky Chloe
>Gets his RA on me one time
>"Oh that hits low, good to know"
>Completely waste his ass while he keeps trying to rely on his crutch for the rest of the match

>>380649342
Play a little mind game with them, bait them or really play the guessing game when that low comes. It's always great to stand-guard as a general safety tool but you need to start watching yourself when you see your opponent abusing sweeps.

Strings that have lows can be easily low parried but blocking your standard lows is a start. Remember that low parry is d/f (down-forward).

>I'm too new to have memorized anyone's combos.
DON'T. If you're talking about things you should learn yourself, learn a handful of moves and their properties. Not combos in the movelist. Same goes for match-ups against you. Follow community bread and butter combos and start there.

If you seen the video I posted, the Raven player did not ever lead into a combo and just relied on punishing and counter-hitting.

>>380649760
Practice and experience. Every loss is just gonna fuel you up into guessing what that faggot is thinking next in his head.

>>380648572
Input lag in T7 is only a frame's difference. Those other games can run at way higher FPS on a good PC, so the point isn't really the same considering Xbox suffers from the same if not worse in that regard. Besides most people have their PC's hooked up to monitors instead of TVs so that's another added advantage. Altogether it's no longer a matter of a 16 ms difference, but double if not more.

>>380649750
How much we talking? I'd rather have it look nice.

>>380637168
Why not just get your moves off before they do OP, or block for that matter? Obviously if they're doing it its not the fault of the game then.

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Eliza is a shi-
Oh my.... uuhhh

>>380637168
I have never posted this before: GIT GUD fag.

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>>380637168

>>380650252
The problem if I ever fought that Raven is I would have gotten beaten even worse. All those moves she used are completely alien to me so I would have no idea what to do about them. Especially that one where she vanishes and comes crashing down. I play Lili and even I recognize that Lili was playing like shit, but I wouldn't do any better.

I just got this game, haven't played a tekken since tekken tag tournament casually.

Is playing on a xbox 360 controller just terrible? there are some button combos that just seem unrealistic to do on a controller, and I have problems with any moves that require pressing 2 buttons at once.

also how do I get good at steve

>>380650459
god DAMN

>>380651083
>Is playing on a xbox 360 controller just terrible?

Yes, you'll only end up being able to do 1/3 of the moves and are seriously handicapping yourself. I ended up getting a stick just for Tekken (never used one before in my life) and within the first 30 minutes I was pulling off moves I couldn't do before. For anyone who says stick doesn't matter, they never played on an Xbox controller.

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>>380651227
I didn't play Revolution because I'm an Xboxfag but Eliza is pretty fun and cute. Same for Lucky.

>>380651083
>Is playing on a xbox 360 controller just terrible?
Strictly speaking, no, you should be able to do it. But really both the stick and especially dpad of the 360 controller is god fucking awful inaccurate trash.

You would do yourself a favor by getting either an XBONE or PS4 controller. Go to a store with demo displays and feel them out, get whatever you like best.

>>380637168
suck less

>>380651083
Try mapping multiple buttons to the shoulder buttons so you cover the important stuff. For example (1+4) and (2+3) and (1+2) / (3+4)


Also, use the D-pad, it's pretty vital in tekken for good movement. 360 D-pad sorta sucks though.

>>380651672
Don't get the Bone controller, it's garbage d-pad is not much better than the 360s. You'll never be able to do diagonals reliably. PS4 one maybe, but if you're already spending $60 for a new controller just pay a little more for a decent stick imo.

>>380651083
Use a raptor grip on the controller (two fingers on buttons). Combos come out much faster than using your thumb. The dpad is considered bad, but you can still work with it.

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>>380650459
REMOVE SLEEPY VAMP

>>380651058
It's baiting and match-ups. Play some games, go back to the lab and study some fighters you have trouble with. See the moves they pull off and what can you do about them. But if you spend all day in the lab it's just gonna get boring and tedious, and if you spend all day online you're just gonna get mad at yourself. Mix it up and keep it fun.

>>380651083
If you're on PS4, the DS4 controller isn't bad at all, I hold it like this guy
https://youtu.be/RocSyOAOZj0
if you're on PC, you can remap the shit out of your keyboard and make it work for yourself from there.

Take a look at the hitbox arcade stick and base it off from there. That's a easy setup.
But if you're on Xbone, you're fucked.

I'm actually having a lot of fun with Tekken now that I'm actually trying to learn. Is Alisa's damage supposed to suck though? Trying to learn and it feels like my best stuff barely does any damage.

>>380651903
While I personally do agree with you, I've found some people really do swear by the XBONE dpad *shrug*

IMO
Proper arcade stick > DS4 > DS3 > XBONE >>>>> 360

Feeling like the game is slow for you exclusively while everybody else is fast is a sure sign of being bad. Try to get better at movement, there is more to it in Tekken that you might think.

>>380652069
She's more poke oriented

>>380647902
How did that Lili even get to third dan? I've seen first dans better than that.

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How do I get good at Paul besides Demo Man and Double Hopkick?

>>380652320
I suppose that makes sense. The guide said she wasn't good at making comebacks but I translated that into her having troubles getting in with a disadvantage.

>>380651542
IIRC in Revolution she had about 40 moves total, including the various throws and normals. She's way better now.

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I don't know if this'll help but it gave me some insight on characters.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/mobilebasic

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remember the fallen

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>>380653729
>mfw I lost Anna, Armor King, and Marduk
>Lol use King, Gigas, and Nina.
It's not the same. At least I have Chuck Norris.

Why do people fawn over Anna so bad?

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Complete scrub here. How do I git gud with Asuka?

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>>380654598
You can start by putting on the Jill outfit for extra intimidation factor.

>>380654463
because she's the superior Williams sister

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>>380654740
And then what?

>>380651420
>1/3 of the moves
Anon that's a blatant lie unless the 360 controller is much worse than a bone controller

>>380654390
I know, dude. Fucking hate it when people tell me to use someone else. Fuck you, I've been using Changs for 20 years. 0 empathy, because their faggot ass Mishima main was guaranteed to get in anyway.

>>380655024
You have no idea the suffering 360 pads have caused

>>380651083
If you're playing on PC then the keyboard is actually pretty good for Tekken (possibly excluding characters like Akuma and Eliza who need a lot of circle motions, haven't tried).
I wouldn't recommend the thumbsticks and the xbox d-pad is atrocious, if you can't get a stick get a PS4 controller or try a keyboard and see how that works for you. A stick won't be easy to get used to though.

>Steve
Steve is pretty fucking hard to play decently. If you're new to him just focus on block punishing with b+1 (or b+2 if they really fucked up) and poking. You'll need to practice your mixups a lot and learn to cancel into and OUT OF flicker stance super quickly since a lot of combos rely on that. Also a lot of combos rely on 1,2~1 so you'll probably need atleast 2 fingers on the face buttons unless you've got a super fast thumb (I can't do that shit unless I've got raptor grip or a keyboard). Also remember your WR1,2 is fucking godly, especially if you just blocked a hit. Other than that, remember that Steve has many delayable hits so you can use those to fish for counters.
I've been mashing buttons with Steve since T5 but tried to seriously learn him over the past few months too so I feel ya anon

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>>380654793
True.

>>380654740
That's cool. So so far I've seen this, Chris from RE, Solid Snake, Master Miller, and I think Steve Fox would make a pretty good Liquid. What other characters can we make?

I tried to make Josie into Akira from Rival Schools but the skull mask isn't quite the same as a skull biker helmet and there's no camouflage color tank top.

>>380656337
I was trying to make Bayo with Kazumi but it didn't work out.

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>>380652175
I haven't tried the Bone controller and it's been a while since I used a Stick but this ranking seems accurate to me.
I remember getting yelled at by a bunch of faggots when I told someone not to use the Xbone controller last month since the 360 one is abysmal. So *shrug* too I guess
Also the keyboard is essentially a cheaper, unoptimised hitbox and significantly easier for some moves. (EWGF for example) I'd rank it close to the DS3, not sure if above or below.

What keys do you use for your main attack buttons on keyboard? I'm assuming WASD for movement.

>>380637168
Learn how to punish bro,learn which moves are the best to do it.Also watch AvoidingthePuddle on yt,he has good tutorial for noobs,pretty neat stuff if you ask me

>>380652175
I've heard people saying DS4 dpad is worse than DS3.

>>380638446
>his punches are too slow.
Love this ignorance shown by the gaming community.
Pro tip: every character's punches are LITERALLY just as fast.

>>380655841
My Josie is much more cuter. I'll show her when i figure out how to get images saved on my PS4.

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>>380657135
>Keyboard

Any advice for Lili? Also how many characters do people usually main?

>>380658462
I play Lili. She's fun.

What's the issue?

>>380658462
Try to main all of them. Natural selection will do it's thing.

Am I the only one who hates Tekken 4?

Sure, I played it a shit-ton back in the day, but looking back on it:

>shit soundtrack
>no Big Bad at the end, just Heihachi in a diaper
>Jin does not become a "Devil", even though 3 teased the shit out of it
>the only weird/exotic fighters are Panda/Kuma and Combot (and Yoshimitsu I guess)
>no unique stages for characters

>>380658851
>the only weird/exotic fighters are Panda/Kuma
hey this kind of reminds me of another Tekken game, hmm which one was it again
it had Kuma and Panda wasting up two slots, and Roger was removed for some reason
hmmm

Heihachi did nothing wrong

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r8 my Eliza you guys

>>380659310
Yeah, RIP Alex

I'm also pissed that 7 has no options to turn King into Armor King. Is there some sort of "hurr lore" reason behind it?

>>380659789
Probably just so they can try to sell you Armor King back later as DLC

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>>380658462

Lili is high risk/high reward. If you hit your opponent, you hit like a truck. A shame all of her good moves are as slow as shit but she is a very solid character despite this.

d+3 is a good low to use at range to pick at the opponent

f,f+4 is good to use in small doses, quite unsafe but offers good advantage on hit and gives you options

d/f+1 is her best mid basic poke

d/f+3 is a great pressure tool that gives advantage on block and leave opponent in crouch. On CH you can combo, Has a lot more range than it looks

f+3 basic homing move

f+2,3 is a good combo expender and punisher. A combo on normal hit and wall splats.

d/f+3+4 is an excellent whiff punisher and depending on the level, a good gap closer

d+3+4 (matterhorn) a good move to use if you KNOW FULL WELL the opponent did a high or a mid that does not hit low enough (deathfist)

d/f+2 a great mid launcher that launches crouching opponents. Unsafe, but a good move

u/f+3 is a great hopkick that can hit the opponent out of sidestep.

When you are in your opponents grill, basic pokes are fine (d/f+1; 1,2, etc) with the occasional low to throw them off. Back away if things are not working out, Lili is comfortable at mid-max range as you have long range punishers. If you feel confident at close range, use CD 3+4, f,f+4 and d/f+3 a bit more often. All of these moves are great

At mid-max, try and bait into punishers (d/f+2, u/f+3, d/f+3+4) and occasionally chip with long range lows. 3,1 is a good whiff punisher too if you are not 100% sure on the matter.

Wall combos you can do BT 4,3+4 if you are in position, f+3+4,3,4 if they are high up on the wall and you are front facing , if they are low I just do 1,2, 1+2. Simple

>>380659789
Why would you want to cosplay as a different character without their moveset?

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I hate how Yoshi still has a no sword stance which is really just an alternate moveset, it's retarded.

No sword stance should be removed and everything unique to it should be implemented in his default moveset. Especially his d/f+3 foot sweep, if not that then make yoshi's d/f+4 knockdown on normal hit.

Is it a good idea to be trying to learn the 10-hit combos in the movelists? I might just really suck but I feel like I ought to be learning easier bnbs first

>>380660503

Yes.

Get familiar with them but never use them in the game. When you play against people who DO use them, you will be more than ready.

Then after you see the results, do that with shorter moves and strings to get similar results (but obviously use them yourself if they are good moves).

>>380660503
10 hit combos are useless. Just for for easy bnbs and pokes

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>>380660503
10-hit are useless for most characters since it's not practical in high-level playing where superior blocking and low parrying is evident. You need to learn how to juggle friendo, or else you'll end up like the slut in my picture.

>>380659520
10/10 would let her suck my blood followed by letting her sleep on my dick

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>*frametraps your path*

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>>380661330

>>380661330

>frame trap
>not Nina

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>>380661427
>Miguel
>Not the king of frametraps
I came here to laugh at you

>>380661427
How do you even frame trap with nina. Don't tell me you have to do those autistic twitchy shit with SS1.

>>380658851
I loved 4. every tekken has been good even 6 with its crazy juggles.

>>380661487

literally offers more frames off a blocked move than much of the cast at range 0 (ss+1~f/b, +11)

>>380661597

Yes. Then you have +frame basic moves to use like 1, 2, qcf 1, f+3 (if they do not duck the 2nd hit), d/f+3,2 (likewise), f,+4,4...only difference is that when Miguel hits you your head no longer remains on your shoulders.

>>380655841
Why is Josie so perfect.

>>380637168
watch some of Aris' videos and learn how to play

>>380663679
big teats

I seriously hate tekken and soul calibur because of the hilariously low hp pools, its maybe 2 simple juggles and the enemy is dead.
I hate how it changes the high-level play to constant turtling and phishing for enemy attack

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>Hitting taunt jet upper

Every character should have an unblockable taunt cancel

>>380664990

waiting for a character slowly die is not fun at all. In Tekken you do get fucked up for flopping once and in most cases it is thoroughly deserved. Getting back on your feet should be difficult and Tekken is one of the last fighting games that does this.

>>380659520
cute/10

>>380639801
>Circle triangle

LOL what kind of a peasant plays on pad

Use 1/2/3/4 you retard

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What are low-IQ characters?

What are high-IQ characters?

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>>380665680
>High IQ
Lucky
>Low IQ
Anyone else

>>380665824
wrong

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>>380665824

>>380665446
>waiting for a character slowly die is not fun at all
Long dynamic exchanges are way more fun than just waiting for a single mistake to punish it and then flowchart into okizeme.
Thats just boring game design.

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>>380665680
I'm a complete scrub at Tekken and Have success with Kazumi by hitting df1 all day.

So im gonna say Kazumi.

>>380656337
Make Skeletor with Bryan Fury. Been seeing that one a lot online

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>>380665680
High IQ
>Kazuya
>Heihachi
>Jin
>Devil Jin
>Nina
>Feng
>Hwoarang
>Miguel
>Lee
>Ling
>Law
>Lars
>Leo

Low IQ
>King
>Dragunov
>Paul
>Bryan
>Alisa
>Eddy
>Kuma
>Panda
>Lucky Chloe
>Lili
>Katarina
>Asuka
>Bob
>Akuma
>Eliza

>>380666254
Oh yeah I've seen those pics too, funny.

Also saw someone post a Guy Fieri as Bob holding that huge chunk of meat.

>>380666430
I forgot Jack and Gigas.

They go in low iq as well

>>380665987

and watching the same mixup happen way more often is more appealing? Incidentally Tekken matches can come and go at different speeds AND you can have those dynamic exchanges you speak of (even more dynamic considering the movesets available and player creativity). You can think just wait wait whiff punish but that is a single aspect of the game and it does not always happen.

>>380666430
Why King?
King is top tier, I can't have fun with anyone else

>>380666430
>>380666619
Fuck I forgot a bunch

High IQ
>Claudio
>Kazumi
>Josie

Low IQ
>Shaheen
>Master Raven

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Why does nobody talk about Claudio? I never played against one either. Did I pick a bad main?

>>380660380
NSS has a few good mixup options, especially if you get your opponent used to you going into Manji Dragonfly. u/f 1+2 into his d/f 3 sweep gives a good combo. Going u 1+2 hits low.
I do miss being able to throw out his prison gate move without being in NSS.

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>30 hours
>still haven't unlocked Lili's curls

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>>380666742

>>380666712
King is like the lowest of low IQ

>>380666712
King is the Ken of this game.

>>380666824
>>380666917

Too much of a scrub to break throws?

>>380665680
>low-IQ characters
Characters I don't like

>high-IQ characters
Characters I like

>>380667070
>Spams RDC and Giant swing all the way to green
>Proceeds to get bodied and is stuck there forever because his low-IQ strategies doesn't work anymore

>>380667190
You can literally mash 1+2 to get out of RDC, Anon, you're just too bad to know when or how

>>380659985
Thanks

Ranking with Miguel is tough

He's more technical than I initially thought

>>380667381
*le sigh* si insistes

>>380666430
So does High IQ mean hard to play or does it mean they have no meme scrub-killer strats?

>>380637168
>every character i play is slow
>but the other guy (who picks from the SAME pool) is too fast
lol what

>>380667720
all characters can slay scrubs

some are just easier to do so.

High-IQ characters are technically harder to achieve results with

>>380667845
It's just LTG talking, ignore him.

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Reminder

>>380651420
I have a stick, but I feel like Tekken plays so much better on my PS4 pad than my stick. The 360 dpad is really amazingly bad though, so I think it's really at its own level of terribleness.

>>380657135
I use WASD but space bar for UP. used U I O P J K L : keys for the rest.

>>380669605
>:
;

>>380666784
What I'm saying is that all those mixups should be implemented into his normal moveset and then have NSS scrapped. Like as an example, it would be cool if when holding u+1+2 you would go into helicopter, but if you just pressed it you would go into indian stance.

The mixups are good but not that good because unless you get a counter hit with d/f+3, it's really hard to get damage because yoshi already has low damage output to begin with. Also in NSS some moves do less damage since you have no sword out like d+2, 1.

I think what's most important though is that yoshi should either have his d/f+4 foot sweep in normal stance OR have his d/f+3 sweep knockdown opponents on normal hit as opposed to just knocking down on counter hit. What made yoshi really solid pre-Tekken 6 was his 50/50 style full crouch mixups.

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>>380668491
Why is best girl in retard?

>>380666775
Too anime for me to like.

>>380669962
Don't reply to that cancer.

How do I Bryan Fury?

Is it better to start juggle combo with Jet Upper or with Snake Edge?

>>380668491
>Miguel
>Ling
>Kazumi
>Leo
>Lars

>Low-IQ
lol

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Who's the Lei Fang of Tekken?

>>380670309
Orbital heel for days my guy

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>>380668491
Wrong

>>380670957
Probably Leo.

>>380670957
Ling

People realizing they are shit at Tekken makes my smile.

>>380671072
also terribly wrong

I wish you could cancel Miguel's taunt. That could lead to some funny fuckery

>>380670957
If you mean the chink of the game then Xiayou

If you mean a girl that no one mentions ever then probably Jun

If you mean a girl that wears a cheongsam then Anna

>>380652861

You don't need much else, you need to just punish them for pressing buttons.

>>380672384
Cool.

>>380672494

Oh I forgot, you need to use Phoenix Smasher aka Deathfist (qcf+2) as your best whiff punisher. You hit someone like 3 times with it and they're pretty much dead.

>>380671072
>fuck this stupid fucking list...
>oh lee and kazuya are on top
everything's fine here, move along

>>380666430
where does yoshi fall

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I still can't get out of a grab for the life of me. I know you have to hit one of the buttons that correspond to your opponent's grab input, but how small is that window? Apparently not very, I've heard people say "you have to be asleep to get grabbed in this game" but that certainly doesn't apply to me. If I'm getting grabbed and I hit 1, does the game then fully commit me to 1, even if I mash on 2 in what would still be considered the window of opportunity?

>>380675089
make sure you only press 1 OR 2 on normal grabs not both
also you cant break throws if you are holding any direction i think

>>380675089
>but how small is that window? Apparently not very, I've heard people say "you have to be asleep to get grabbed in this game" but that certainly doesn't apply to me
I believe the window is 25 frames. The people that are saying you have to be asleep have played older Tekkens where you had 5 less frames to break AND had to distinguish between a 1 and 2 break. In a non-condescending way, I can agree with their statement. Tag 2 was my first serious Tekken and I had trouble breaking throws unless my opponent made it stupidly obvious, but now I can break the high majority of throws when I'm on my game.

>If I'm getting grabbed and I hit 1, does the game then fully commit me to 1, even if I mash on 2 in what would still be considered the window of opportunity?
Yes, otherwise people would mash 1 and 1+2 and break everything. All normal throws can be broken with either 1 or 2, and command throws (both arms coming out for the throw) have to be broken with 1+2.

>>380675089
> have to hit one of the buttons that correspond to your opponent's grab input
this is no longer the case on frontal grabs
only on side grabs you have to use the button that corresponds to the side you are being grabbed from

>>380675893
also you cant break throws if you are holding any direction i think
This is not true.

>>380676274
is it possible to break throws that grabbed you during attack animation?

>>380676604
Yes, the only unbreakable grabs are ones that are done on armor moves. So if you use an armor move and they grab you can't get out of it.

Things like Kings multi hit grabs can be broken though, only the first grab is guaranteed.

>>380676708
>So if you use an armor move and they grab you can't get out of it.
that explains a lot to me thanks

>>380645943
I unashamedly switched to EZ mode and spammed auto combos because fuck bullshit bosses in fighting games. Akuma afterwards is even more bullshit.

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>he's not using bootleg Hitbox.

>>380645943
Keep blocking until he wastes his rage art or alternatively keep poking him until you get him out of rage.

>>380676708
>Kings multi hit grabs can be broken though, only the first grab is guaranteed
Some parts of chain grabs are unbreakable, but you can always interrupt the first grab. They just require a specific punch button.

>>380678149
I haven't tested it too hard with king but if you use an armor move and he grabs pretty sure you can't break the first part of it but you can break everything after.

Guess I need to do some research.

>>380677398
I do just shift the right side 2 keys to the left

>>380678439
Oh, you meant during armor moves?
Yeah, you're right.

>>380665680
>high
Pure fundamental characters like Jack
>low
HUUUUUUUUR EGWF WR+2 DEATH FIST LMAO

Is Lei WuLong in Tekken 7?

>>380679178
Google it. Fucking retards.

>>380679025
You're a joke.

>>380679178
not yet. possible DLC

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>oh hey claudio looks fun let's try him out
>mfw
why is he so cool
why is he so fun
why is he so GOOD

>>380674406
High IQ

>>380679539
>dat hop kick

>>380679539
>>380679832
Kill all Caludiofags.

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>>380679832
>hopkick into juggle combos
>hopkick into F+3 rage art

>>380679386
>t. sirgay fag

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Whip cosmetic when?

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>>380679954
>Think I'm all good to head in and punish
>Claudio fucking hopkicks

Make it stop

it's been days since i'm trying to do electrics, I know what i have to do, like press df at the same time as 2, and sometimes i achieve it but i can't pull it off consistently, should i just keep practicing or is there a way?

>>380677398
I really do want to learn to play on Keyboard but a controller is just so natural to me. Maybe I should pick up a character I've never used before and just work on keyboard with that character. I was thinking of trying Master Raven anyway.

>>380657135
numberpad

78
45

>>380681341
Why not this >>380677398

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Finally a thread where I can ask this.
Does anyone know what the playbase for tekken 7 on ps4 is?
I am considering buying ps4 and cant decide wether to get tekken on ps or pc.

>>380680115
>everything red
holy fuck that is ugly at least try and pair colors together.

>>380681520
my question was about number of players
dur

>>380638446

Qtr circle forward rp with paul.

You're welcome

>>380681520
there's way more people on console

>>380676708

Nina's Betrayer is an unescapable throw.

>>380681520
that poor bear was right

>>380681520
MY PS4 ONLINE HAS BEEN FUCKED SINCE RELEASE I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FINISH A SINGLE TOURNAMENT EVEN FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. THE PATCH DID SHIT

>>380639058

Jack isn't slow you stupid pleb

>what is power crush or low parry

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>>380681876
i am seeing 10k on steam i just dont want the game to die before i git gud

>>380681441
i would never use space, there are times when you need to hit up and right/left at the exact same time and that sounds really awkward with the spacebar. Also the 'feel' of triggering the spacebar changes based on where on the spacebar you press, making it a less than ideal input method

years of movement with wasd has toned my muscle memory

I've thought about moving the attack keys to yui,hjk; I'm not sure which would feel more natural. I use numpad right now because i didnt want my hands so close together while playing a game. Its kind of a bitch though cause I need autohotkey running so i dont accidentally spurge out and turn off numlock while trying to spam out a move

How do I get back up?

Every time I play this game, if the other player can knock me down, it's over. They just kick the shit out of me while I roll around getting killed. It's my first Tekken title, and none of my fighting game knowledge starting back from fucking Super Turbo is helping me.

>>380682236
also fighting games make my keyboard fucking disgusting

like goddamn my fingers sweat so much

>>380681520
There may be somewhat more players on console but matchmaking seems buggier. Also connection quality is often suspect because of wi-fi fags.

I get matches on PC all the time and the streamers(most of whom seem to be on PC oddly enough) with higher ranks also don't seem to have issues. You can't be sure if it remains the same in a few months though, of course.

>>380682442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-PDc20Jezg

>>380682442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-PDc20Jezg

This is the first helpful streamer I've ever seen

>>380682532
>>380682536
wew

>>380640201

You're in the right place then

>>380682442
tech being knocked down. or wake up with a low or mid. also if you get hit while on the ground you are free to re-tech the knock down after each hit so you can get your ass back up

>>380682234
Even the XRD guys get enough matches on PC and they peak at like 500 concurrent. 8K is a huge amount for a game with 2 minute matches

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>>380682583
What the FUCK are you wewing about over there YOU FUCKING BITCH??

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>>380682708
>>380682505
thanks guise, will get it on pee see then

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>>380682785
If you think you can stop me from wewing then you are wrong kiddo

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>>380682536
>>380682532
Aris is such a likable guy.
When he starts with his stories about going to arcades its really comfy.

>>380682532
>>380682536

Cheers anons. I really wish this info was somewhere in the game, I think this video alone will make it easier for me to feel like I have a chance against other players.

>>380682532
>>380682536

Man I fucking love Aris. The delivery on all his jokes are great. It's awesome to have a Tekken veteran so willing to help all the new Tekken players too.

>>380682442

if you are hit on the floof moves generaly have more pushback. At that point you can move away from the opponent safer.

You also need to know how you are lying on the floor. Most cases you will be FUFT (face up feet towards) and it is easier to move away/land a rising strike. You need to see what your opponent likes to do. If they whiff an attack, you can do a rising kick in most cases. Any other resting position is a bit shit recovery wise but your opponent cannot hit you grounded forever. Pick your option depending on what your opponent likes to do. If you need to take a hit to clear space, just weigh the risk.

>>380671574
Is Eliza a competitive character? It doesn't seem like she has much of an arsenal.

>>380683268
Aris is a stupid faggot. Literally intellectually-deficient stupid.

>>380683649
Don't know why I responded to you, didn't mean to. Sorry mang.

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>she

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>>380683763
wow rude

>>380672208
I meant in fighting style

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>>380683870
>Yoshimistsu calls him beautiful
What did Yoshmistu mean by this?

Is this game properly playable with an Xbone controller? I'm on PC, so I'd love to not have to buy another controller

Alright so what's the deal with king? Do you have to be literally autistic to play him at his full potential or something? He has more unique moves than anyone in the fucking game utilizing every single button combination with grabs that do 70% of your health.
How the hell are you supposed to play him well?

>>380684669
And then he gets decked in the nuts by her in his ending. Ouch.

>>380684763
I didn't think so and went and bought my first stick. I guess it depends on who you play. It was impossible to play Eliza with her QCFs with a Bone pad, for me. If you don't mind flailing around and missing some inputs then I guess it's fine to start with.

>>380685021
Yeah but did he really say "he". I know the translation for this game is shit.
>baka baka becomes na-na na-na

>>380685108
thx, I guess I'll try and might get something else if I find it bad

>>380684669
BIG CYBORG DICK

>>380685316
>baka baka becomes na-na na-na
Weird translation.

>>380637168
>2 hours online
whats your playtime? try going into training
once you have a few combos down try em out in arcade
if you can get those down all the time, start learning more advanced combos
rinse repeat
learn good defense
once you go online and know the combos, you can familiarize yourself with other playstyles, without just watching the other guy juggle your ass to KO and a ragequit.

the problem with alot of people is they expect to do good enough to scrape by online, this isnt one of those games

>>380685743
You can always try keyboard too like other anons have said.

>>380684763
There are pro players who play T7 on PS3/4 pads. I assume the xbone dpad isn't that different.

Personally, doing advanced character movement on a pad was hard on my thumb

>>380652861
Dante?

>>380686053
Keyword is PS3/4. Bone d-pads are a lot more rigid and hard to get smooth QCFs on. It's fine for NRS games though.

>>380637168
>Then there's all the shitheads who can't play either and win by pure luck by doing their single button rage arts just as they're about to die and I'm going in for the kill.
HAHAHAHA git fucking gud. It's possible and very easy to block/dodge rage arts.

>>380684763
I tried using both the xbone and ps3 pad. Ps3 is way comfier and easier to use after long use.

>>380686671
Can you iWS with your PS3 controller?

>>380686927
Literally just killed a guy using two of them in a row on my PS3 controller

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Guys, should I get the game for 35e on ins gam, or the pack including the season pass for 55e?

>>380686671
How did you get your ps3 controller working on your pc?

>>380668491
Where is Anna?

>>380688025
Connect it with a cable.

>>380652861
Andy Bogard from King of Fighters?!

>>380688083
Not in Tekken 7.

>>380688196
I did that and the L2 R2 and select buttons weren't working properly. I guess I'll have to buy a ps4 controller after all...

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I have to play this game with a steam controller, it's not that bad really.

>>380646201
>run at him and stop to bait RAs
this is almost kino tekken, baiting rage arts has to be one of the best feelings in this game

that and winning the slowdowns to end a game 3-2. its like a mental orgasm, you just feel elated at choosing the correct technique

>>380687475
Ah that's great, I have both controllers but find it slightly easier to do on the xbone. Pretty much no difference.
>>380688498
I have no trouble with the DS3 on Linux. Might be shit driver.

>PS4 update ruins the fucking matchmaking completely.

Fucking hell harada. It was fine before the update and now it won't find me an opponent.

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>hi guys im new here! been playing tekken since 1,2 and 3!
>Im looking forward to playing you all online! :P
>ughhh.. wtf? this is so FUCKING CHEAP!
>rage arts kill me they are a NOOB TACTIC!!
>ffs i can't get up when im knocked down why!?
>WTF!? People just juggle you all the time no respect for playin properly!!
>what do all these numbers mean!? dont you mean square and triangle??!!
>damn wheres the full 100hr story mode like in witcher 3? NO CONTENT!!!!
>fuck this game


Every single time.

>>380688196
Try using the reddit guide on how to set it up. Its what I used. Google "Complete Guide: How to connect your Ps3 Dualshock 3 controller to your computer" and it should be the first link

>>380688602
I need to get used to being cautious when opponents have rage.

I'm too used to being able to run in for oki

>>380688983
>ruins it

nigga it was ruined before the update and now it's much better, get better internet my dude.

I hate tourney lobbies though, trying to get 3 tourney wins for that ki flame aura and whenever you cant see someone's connection it does a coin toss for who gets to go on and win. Also there's shit like joining a tourney, beat the host in finals, and they either kick you or leave. Or when I host my own, tons of seaniggers and brazilians with shit connections join or super high ranked motherfuckers that have mastered the frame data of every character and have like 20 straight first place tourney wins

>No one has posted the Eliza webm yet

>>380688983
Let them know on twitter that it's an issue. They rolled back the patch on PC, because it fucked jup the matchmaking.

>>380689680
We all seen it. What's the point of reposting it.

>>380689819
Can you do it for me? I don't have twitter.

>>380689589
Nigga my connection is probably faster than yours. That's not the problem. The fact that I'm able to write all this while waiting for an opponent shows that it takes too long.

>>380690354
lol I also don't have a twitter :(

>>380682236
>i would never use space, there are times when you need to hit up and right/left at the exact same time and that sounds really awkward
So you gimp yourself out of retardation, makes sesne.

So I'm trying to learn to play on my keyboard and randomly the game just stops reading my keyboard, anyone else have this problem?

>>380689957
I want to see it.

>>380691232
1. Switch to Hitbox layout
2. I have seen people mention it

>>380691470
Just load up Tekken 7.

>>380666775
claudio is excellent. his hop kick isn't launch punishable while it crushes lows some highs and some mids. Very good character. Do a lot of forward 3 and running 2's. if people start blocking your running 2's mix in 4's.

>>380690553
obviously not since I've been getting consistent matches fairly fast

>>380691498
What's the hitbox layout?

>>380692716
>>380677398

>>380668491
>tfw Hwoarang and Nina have been my favorite characters for a long time and even SFxT team
Nice

Is there a good starting guide into Tekken for 2D/anime fighter player?

>tfw get destroyed by a retard mashing jabs out and doing ghetto wall combos because of it

gas all steve players le sick dodge memes were a mistake

God fuck treasure battle.

>people keep telling beginners to start blocking low
>I keep getting blown up by mids

I always block low by default in 2d games, I really need to kick this habit.

>>380694172
Play Paul. Spam D1, 2 and throw in some Deathfists and you win every game.

>>380694765
I usually just use Kazumi and cheese it with her u/f 2 keep doing fff 2 for the rest of the match, but it's just so boring. Just give me my fucking parts already.

>>380694892
Paul does insane damage. Trust me on this. Paul is the answer.

>>380695045
I'll take your word for it, especially because of fucking Kuma. Fuck Kuma.

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>>380693470
Who the fuck needs a guide for a genre that only needs 6 buttons and the d-pad?
Git gud

>>380695126
Why Kuma?

>>380695308
He does that stupid attack while he's on the ground and fucks up my tactic with Kazumi.

>>380695339
He has a lot of attacks on the ground, the one where he throws you up or hits you with mids while on the floor.

>>380695681
I've only seen him do one and I thought it hit low since it knocked me over.

>>380677815
How the fuck do you block his rage art? I go on the defensive but he will randomly use the rage art and it just goes through my block. I tried side stepping and bloking but it just goes through.

>>380696147
Hold back.

>>380659985
I really like 3+4 and the dodge backward into hit mid move

>>380695967
>Bear Butterfly
>face down does low damage

>Bear Backstoke
>face up does mid damage

>Get up punch
>Face up (head) away from you
>does mid damage
Go to practice mode and learn to block them. Game should have defensive training.

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>>380637168
I thought most of /v/ would be sympathetic, but I'm glad this mostly got the responses it deserved.

I am comfortable with my Lili playing from Tekken 6 and Tag 2, but I seem to find a lot of trouble with characters who rely on 'standup from crouch' to do some of their better moves (like Leo)

how do you reliably do that stuff, there's weird timing involved. and it seems even Lili got a few of those kinds of moves in T7.

>>380643812
>you want to have fun?
>better study all those mechanics for the next 2 years

yeah no thanks

>>380696676
Distract them with your ass.

>>380696676
You mean iws? Just do half of a qcf. In some moves qcf will translate to iws such as her qcf+4 and her honeysuckle launch.

>>380696248
That's what I've been doing and it always goes through, I just assumed it was like that bitch Devil Kazumi. Since you say it can be blocked I must of fucked up. I'm using a xbox controller and when I practice I noticed that a simple botton press or movement usually result in a shit ton on commands so that might be why it seems like I can't block shit sometimes.

How do you get dash attacks out consistently? Every time I try doing triple forward I keep getting the stupid jabs.