>you have to buy $99999999999 PC to play games the same a

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXYruYBe8LQ

Even Dishonored 2 with shit tier optimization on PC runs better than on PS4 pro at 4K.
At the same price.

>not including price of a monitor
>price based on finding good deals
(You)

>>380598594
what kind of shitty components do they throw in these budget builds?
480 is 250$, CPU another 200$, what happens to mobo, psu, case, storage, ram?

>>380599748
>not included price of TV

retarded much?

>>380599815
It's literally listed:

i5 750 overclocked to 3.7 ghz
Asus P7H55 LGA 1156 motherboard
8GB DDR3 memory
MSI GTX 760 2GB
320GB Samsung Spinpoint HDD
Cooler Master Wavemaster Case
Arctic Alpine 11 GT cpu cooler
EVGA 430 watt PSU
Logitech KB+M combo
Windows 10 64-bit

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ps4 is 250 dollars, not 375

These videos are nonsense, nobody buys a fucking PC to play at 30 fps
You just get a console at that point

>>380599983
PS4 doesn't even run fake "4k" as PRO

>>380599983
ps4 pro you dildon't

>>380599821
>tv that most people already have in their living rooms is the same as a monitor

retard

>>380600381
>backpedaling & damage control

Retarded much?

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>>380599885
the problem with these budget builds is that very few will find the right deal, and it's especially frustrating if you want to build one in under a cuople weeks.

used mobos are sold often at higher price than they were from retailers

>>380600078
>woaah you need to buy $99999999 PC to compete with cheap as dirt PS4
>proved wrong
>b-but nobody b-buys cheaper or same price PC to play better at 4k...
>you j-just g-get PS4 a-anyway...

Fuck off shill

His build is impossible to get and it actually costs 1000$

>>380600381
>TV can be used as monitor
Hmm...

>>380600703
Nice damage control

>>380600617
>used mobos are sold often at higher price than they were from retailers
What

>>380600501

>stating a known fact is damage control
>get proven wrong
>b-but you're retarded

t. assblasted pcbro

>>380599885
>It's literally listed:

usual bullshit. all of that shit was conveniently bought at some really awesome sale.

I got my PS4 on sale for 299 2years ago. get on my level bitches.

>>380600736
Stop lying on the internet

>>380601005
t. tech-illiterate filth

All of those parts were obsolete at the time of building and are even cheaper now.

>>380600881
>known fact
>not everyone needs TV
>not everyone is retarded enough to not being able to connect TV to PC

Retarded much?

Nice damage control though.

>>380600763
>>used mobos are sold often at higher price than they were from retailers
>What

I've been there. my mobo fried and could find on with a proper 1150 socket

>>380600881
It's a known fact that a PC can be connected to a TV using the same cable you would use for a PS4

I don't have TV because i'm not a normie filth who watches cable TV.

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>>380598594

You realize the PS4 came out in 2013, right? That it's now 2017? Sorry, Phil, nobody is going to buy your no-games-machine.

Why do pcbros always count sale prices as the retail?

The amount of deals/sale hunting you have to do, and the amount of time you have to spend waiting or looking, is few and far between.

Yeah sure you can try and find every component of a PC on a great deal somewhere, over the course of a month or maybe. Or you could spend double or triple and get it immediately at retail. Or you could just buy a cheap ass console. Or even gamble and buy used pc parts for cheap which arent garuanteed to work.

Like what the fuck?

>>380601142
>All of those parts were obsolete at the time of building and are even cheaper now.

you just admitted you compare bargain finds against a manufacturers recommended retail pricing.

literally a whole channel's work thrown in the trash can.

>>380601270
PS4 pro didn't come in 2013, retard.

>>380600763
Can you read? They're out production and sellers want to find the goyim that will buy them at higher price when his mobo died but cpu is still good.
It's either that or new cpu+mobo

>>380601517
Nice fairy tale, dense console babs might believe in that.

>>380601357
>manufacturers recommended retail pricing.

Means pretty much nothing for hardware that drops in price over time

Any comebacks or is OP too busy fucking himself in the ass ?

>>380601324
They're idiots just ignore them

>>380600381
Most people already have a pc monitor too ...

>>380601156
>b-but you don't need a monitor, you can just use your tv!
>spending 375 just to play exactly as you would with a ps4 pro
>having to literally base your purchase at finding deals on parts or settling for second hand
>this still doesn't outperform the ps4 pro

the state of 500 pound (You)

>>380602608
> exactly as you would with a ps4 pro

Except you have better framerate on a cheaper PC at 4K.

Nice try, but still not quite.

Old TVs never supported 4K anyway so you'd have to buy brand new one.

Nice damage control, though.

>>380603319
>games look better on a pc that's cheaper than a ps4 pro

doubt.exe
nice damage control though.

>>380604873
>>games look better on a pc that's cheaper than a ps4 pro
>
>doubt.exe

Retarded much?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ydlo6fWlg

>>380601270

BTFO
T
F
O

The potato masher is fucking stupid, we go over this in every thread about the topic.

>I can make a PC* that costs as much as a PS4** and runs new games!*** Sony is finished!****

*with used or bargain bin components
**including sale prices and mail-in rebates. This assumes that the rebate will be honored. Does not account for sale-price or used-price PS4
***except games that require more than 4GB RAM
****Potato Masher still cannot run PS4 exclusives

Also

>fucking $13 for m+kb combined

Yeah, good luck playing certain genres with peripherals that bad

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>>380601270

So tell me OP, how all of these 104 games here run on a budget PC?

>>380598594
How well does that PC run Bloodborne, Persona 5, Nioh and Yakuza 0?

>>380605472
>linking a video where the pc being used obviously costs more than $250
>this somehow proves pc is cheaper than a ps4 pro at game performance

autism much?

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you can build a super computer for free if you have the parts laying around

>>380598594
Throw in there that 4k TV if you really want to keep up with the latest consoles.

>>380600763
Because mobo is both incredibly important and not really at the same time. Do you really need as many PCIE ports as you're getting? Is that really the CPU socket you want to get aka do you have any CPU updates planned in the future? Shit like that.

>>380600381
>4k TV
Only those with a tiny dick or compensatory problems.

The whole point of a PC is future proofing, if you can only spend 250 bucks and dont play that many games its best to just get a PS4

I have no desires to play anything above 1080p for the next 5 years and I dont NEED 60 fps so a console is fine for me

>>380605934
The Order 1886 can be played on Youtube with the same amount of gameplay as the PS4 version.

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>you don't even need to pay for the games later on

>>380601005
Difference between PC and console is I don't have to replace the whole PC to upgrade it.

Yes your first PC is going to cost you a lot if you want a nice one but after that you can upgrade a component at a time every few years and it comes out to being about as cheap as consoles with much better visuals and performance.

>>380607040
even if you get games legally on pc you'll still be saving money in the long run

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>>380606753

Cool, now the other 103?

Yea didn't think so too.

>>380598594
>tfw have a $99999999999 PC
>still can't play dishonored because of the frame pacing issue

>>380599885

>buying nehalem USED on 2017 (9yo cpu)
>again 9yo mobo
>1333 ram
>760 on 2017
>320 5400 hdd
>used case
>better use the stock cooler o wait i forgot you buy used cpu so it may didnt come with the cooler
>the only new item on your build
>the second new item on your build
>oem key

that build is stupid af i mean is cheap i can run better games that on the ps4 but it locks you to use used parts and them gg you cant upgrade your build any more and thats the whole plus of owing a pc that you can upgrade it when you require but with this build you cant.

>>380600617
>*NEW
>used mobos

>>380606180
>ps4 pro
>250
Autism much?

>>380600381
Underage v& incoming

>>380605934
>So tell me OP, how all of these 104 games here run on a budget PC?

You mean that one Souls rehash game that struggles to have 30 fps?

>>380608085
Speak proper english you dirty foreigner.

I just like PC because of mouse and keyboard support. Way better for shooters in my opinion and objectively better for strategy games and such. I use a controller for a lot of games too, like platformers, fighters and action adventures. I like the options.
Having said that, there's no getting around the fact that you can buy a regular PS4 for under $200 if you're willing to go used. It's something I'll consider if RDR2 never comes to PC.

>>380606292
>Throw in there that 4k TV if you really want to keep up with the latest consoles.

B-B-BUT EVERYONE HAVE 4K TV FOR FREE...

>>380608085
You realize that even that outdated trash PC build works better than """next gen""" PS4 PRO, right?

I like my pc because I have each access to so many games. I do not get every single new exclusive. But there is so much high quality older stuff and ports on my back log, I can be playing enjoyable games for the rest of my life for cheap.

Also, it is nice to have a decent PC for work. If I had to do all my documents on my work laptop, I would kill myself.

>>380602608
>spending 375 just to play exactly as you would with a ps4 pro
>*tips paid online"

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>PC has not had a single actual exclusive in 7 years

>>380600501
ok you desperate retards lets just start fresh then someone who doesn't own a console or computer
>not including the monitor
>not including the gpu
>not including the ram
>not including the cpu
>not including mouse and keyboard
all needed to play and run modern games at high fps on PC now compare that to
>buying a console and a tv plus game
and your set

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>>380610217
>With a good enough PC you can play every console up until 6th gen
>With newer consoles you're stuck with triple A shooters or indie shit

>>380598594
https://youtu.be/dV2swgcRVRw

Apologize right now sonybrownies

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>>380608457

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>mfw consolefags actually PAY MONEY to PLAY ONLINE

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>>380610217
PC doesn't give a fuck about caged "exclusives". Enjoy our indie trash you games-starved pleb.

>>380610313
You forgot

>paid online

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Sonybros still have heavy damage control after that E3 it seems.

Can't even compete with cheaper PCs in terms of graphics and performance.

>>380610313
>being brain damaged nigger who can't even build a PC

Thanks for proving the fact that only retards buy consoles.

>>380610606
whos that bloodborne running on your pc?
4k 144fps?

>>380610886
pc fags pay 60$ for and online game that dies whiting 1 week

>>380612197
Name me a single reason why anyone should care about crappy Souls rehash that runs with sub-30 fps.

So they never fixed the PC version of Dishonored 2?

>>380610886
They can't even make screenshots in games like Persona 5. I mean it.

CAN'T
MAKE
SCREENSHOTS

Because it's that anally locked.

>>380612930
YOU
CANT
PLAY
IT
>yet

how much would a good pc cost if I wanted to run a high end ENB for Skyrim?

>>380613448
>good pc for a 2013 game/mod
just go for an average one if you dont have much scratch atm 500-750$

>>380610217
We literally have more than all consoles combined

>dishonored 2, a garbage game made by incompetent people
found your problem

>>380598594
>you have to buy a ps4 to play games
pc wins by default

>>380600381
you can use a tv retard.

>>380614249
>you have to buy a vga to play games
ps4 wins by default

>>380608361
they were using a ps4 not a pro in that video you retarded spastic, which costs $250, and back then in 2015, $300.
holy fuck did you even think about actually finding a decent argument.

>>380600381
all these (You)s
never change /v/

>>380598594
>picking the least optimized game of the year
faggot

>>380608457
>rehash
>But better than any other souls game

full fledged idort here with 980 pc

>>380600381
Because no PC graphics card ever came with HDMI out, right?
Only consoles can connect to a TV, right?

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>>380614215
Dishonored 2 is goty 2016.

I don't even understand why this is a comparison or why it even matters unless you're literally 12. You fucking retards are over 18 and don't make minimum wage right? I don't make a ton right now but I can afford to upgrade my PC and buy new consoles when they come out if I want

>>380598652
It runs like ass because the game is optimized dogshit. Not even at lowest possible settings am i able to achieve 60fps in open areas. have an fx-6100 and gtx970. Not the best machine, but good enough for most things at medium settings 60fps.

>>380615051
It's well optimized for consoles while PC is handicapped.

Even like that consoles are still doing worse rofl.

lol, i got a PS4 for free from my neighbor when he left his window open. you're overpriced pc is shit.

>>380615371
>living with his parents, dont have to buy food, pay rent, or even pay utillity bills, dont have gf and dont go out with friends
not everyone is a loser like you fag

>>380608085
Because consoles can be sooo upgraded. Go put more RAM or a better GPU in your PS4 faggot.

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>>380615246
DaS 3 is better than BB in every possible way.

Better bosses
Better levels and the design
Better variety of weapons and armors and shields
Better fashion
Better story
Better lore
Better OST
Better performance
Better PvP
Better mechanics
Better challenge (not casul dumbed down trash like BB)
Better online
Better fire keeper (who fucking cares about creepy shitty doll)
Better everything

>>380610819
>Apologize right now sonybrownies

he says it in his video "it goes for 239" and the price in the link is 249.
pretty much blows himself out.

seriously is there ANY fag out there who will stop sucking cock and defend this "bargain vs suggested retail" bullshit ?

>>380612402
FOR AND ONLINE GAME

>>380615669
That is some serious projection there anon. I have a wife, a kid, a house, hobbies, bills. You're right I don't go out with friends though.

>>380615693
>complains about console graphics and the inability they have to upgrade
buys and used console tier graphics who is to old to upgrade

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>>380615693
>actually defending having to upgrade your pc
>being this assblasted that sonybros don't have to upgrade their console

holy fucking shit, you literally can't make this up

>>380615946
nice sims play thought

>>380615970
buys and?
Buys and what?
And what "console tier graphics" did I buy? You have no idea what my PC specs are like :^)

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>>380598594
Feels so fucking good man, all those "PCMR!!! XD" faggots are getting blown the fuck out by based Sony. I spent $600 on my PS4 Pro Last of Us Remastered Gold edition and it plays games in literal 4k better than most pcbros can run their $4,900 computers. I love watching them justify their shitty purchase with "BUT MUH 60FPS" but who gives a fuck, intelligent people like myself (I have an IQ of 150) know that the human eye can only see 21 FPS at all times so it is a waste of fucking money just like their platform.

>>380616135
Having to upgrade your PC? Noone is forcing you.
But I guess once you've been blinded by the low/medium settings running at 30 FPS nothing seems good anymore.

>>380616135
>>being this assblasted that sonybros don't have to upgrade their console

Sony literally shoved PS4 Pro upgrade that allows to run multiplat games with not completely miserable experience into your throat.

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>>380616407
but that was literally the whole point of your post

>>380598594
>its same shit at same price but without god tier exclusive games like the bloodborne that all pcbros wish for
Stop being poor and retarded get both if you can

>>380616885
>>380615708

>>380616885
>without the god tier exclusive game

FTFY

>>380616575
it's not the same thing pcbro.
with pc upgrades you have to already have built your potato smasher rig.

>>380598594
Is the game optimized yet though? Last I heard PC version is still wack.

>>380617147
>it's not the same thing

How is it not the same if you're stuck playing the worse looming and performing version unless you buy a Pro?

>>380617328
you don't have to have bought a regular ps4
you can just buy a pro if you care enough.
with pc upgrades you obviously have to have already built your rig...

>>380617594
Is this english

>>380617671
>pc cuckold reading comprehension

>>380617594
>you have to

Why exactly do you have to upgrade?

>>380605867
This. Show me a pc build with parts brand new from around launch of ps4 for $400 with kbm that aren't cheap pos. Hell let's see a current build for $250 band new with kbm that compare to the ds4.

>>380600381
It can be used as one so?
Are you retarded?
Are your parents siblings?
Are you butthurt?
Are you trolling?

Anyways... hope you enjoy all those /v cocks down your throat when you make such stupid comments.

>>380616880
No, it litterally wasn't. Consolepeasants so brain damaged they can't even read anymore.

>>380615708
>better better better
Do you have any actual arguments or?

>>380599983
I got mine for $212 after tax on Black Friday and still pretty disappointed with the performance.

I don't know why people pretend that games on PS4 are optimized at all. The first part games run pretty well, sure, but almost every game that uses unreal or Unity run horribly.

I tried playing Life is Strange since it was free on PS+ and that fucker drops to about 15-20 FPS in most of the areas. It's ridiculous.

>>380618078
the video neglected the price of a monitor that's better than your average tv, and a myriad of other things. autistic pc mustard seed tried to damage control by saying the price of a tv should be included when figuring out the cost of owning a console. how is that hard to understand are you people this retarded??
with your average tv, that potato smasher build won't run better than a ps4 pro.

>>380618441
>can't disagree with >>380615708
>n-not an argument...

Don't forget to look at the ground to have 20 fps.

>>380619154
I do disagree, and I like DaS 3, but BB is better in about every way.
No idea why you're sperging out over a game you haven't even played.

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>>380619625
Poor falseflag.

BB is garbage with no PvP, no magic, no weapons, shit tier bosses, no 60 fps+ Trash Souls clone.

>>380601180
Read what you typed... word by word
Fuck this retarded faggots make no sense at all

>*and could find on with a proper"

WTF

>>380620019
>no PvP

That's a good thing.

>>380606069
If you weren't busy enough gulping down sony cocks, they would probably run just fine at 4k@60

But keep defending your low quality shit since you love it so much, and sony will keep pooping it out for you.

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>everyone has a tv and a couch
>pctards never include the price of a desk and gaming chair into their list

>LMAO BAJILLION DORRA PEECEE DOES SAME AS CONSOLE

Care to use a game that wasn't made by Bethesda and is known for being a horrendous pile of unoptimized shit as an example?

Oh wait no this is a shitposting thread I forgot

Janitors do it FOR FREE LMAO!!!

>>380620609
I'm an idort. I actually have money to buy anything I want unlike you platform war kiddies.
Not sure what I even expected when I clicked this thread.

>>380620642

>call center downtown goes out of business
>starts selling and throwing shit away
>end up with a Herman Miller AERON Chair and a large corner cubicle desk for 100 bucks.
>the corner desk is 4 feet deep, 5 feet long on the short end, and 11 feet long on the other.
>ultrawide monitor was 200 bucks

Still cheaper than an expensive couch and a TV that will start at 800 USD for the same quality as my monitor. Console fags continue to lose, how will they ever recover!?

>>380620609
>asked about games
>gets angry
pcfriends are...different

>>380620830
This is 4chin nigga, expect faggotry and cocks.. lots of them... like always

>>380602161
Im pretty sure there's more people with tv's than monitors, u dumb fuck

>>380601005

>Th-they got the parts on a s-s-s-sale!
>I got my p-p-penis pump and p-playstation for 299

So you bought the basic bitch PS4 just a few months before the pro came out? Congratulations.

>>380621038
>answer with proper logic about retarded people buying into exclusivity, using same game as reference

Dude... go back to school

>>380602608

Half the framerate, resolution, and graphical quality at only half the cost!? WHAT A DEAL!!!

>>380601005
You can literally slap all of those parts into pcpartpicker and it will find the best prices for all of them. It will even tell you when recent sales were.

Three guesses what the cost comes out to.

>>380621314
>logic
>being butthurt because those games aren't on his 2k dotamchine

I always hate these stupid threads
>lol cant build a pc for the same price as X console

It's a stupid comparison. If I buy a ps4, all it is good for is netflix and ps4 video games. If I buy a pc, i can play all the multiplat video games, all the pc exclusive video games, nearly every video game for every old gen system, watch any movie or tv show at any time, and use it for its computing power for tasks not related to entertainment.

The pc library of games includes nearly everything ever created. Pc is superior in every way.

If you want to play some ps4 or xbox exclusives, then just buy one of those too. Like shit, get a job niggas. I have 3k of disposable income every month.

>>380606180

Pay to play Laquisha, put down poverty money get poverty quality

.>>380605934
>104 games
>including all time favorites such as, "Knack 2, Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth Hacker’s Memory, and the remake of a PS2 game Shadow of the Colossus"

Real good lineup you got there, such a shame that multiplats would still run better on a $300 PC.

>>380620249
Yea go farm your chalice shit dungeon #3442643643 time with no online, retard.

>>380620680
Bethesda didn't make Dishonored, you low IQ monkey.

In a sense they are cheating a little, by using high end parts they have laying around (thus 0 cost) or buying 2-3 generations old used parts that most people are not willing to take the risk on a used CPU or motherboard.

>>380612402

I'll bite, but don't pussy out on me. What game?

>>380613448

Considering you can get an I72700k (more than enough for even the highest levels of gaming) for 60 bucks, it's not hard. Then you have refurb or used 8 and 9 series Nvid cards under 200, grab 16 gigs of ram for 100 and fill in the blanks for about 500-600 max, so long as you already have the peripherals.

>>380615708

>sony coons will defend the grind for healing items and the arcadey "spam attacks to get health back" mechanic because it's the only half decent game on their console

>>380618441

>Blood vials vs estus
>spamming attacks to get health back instead of learning how to not get hit.

If they got rid of the health regen crap it would've been a real souls game. Don't even get me started on the lack of armor and weapons in the game. Even with only 15 weapons, many of them are functionally and stylistically the same as many others

>>380620019

>20% game completion average

Holy shit sony jiggaboos are bad at games.

>>380601324

>excluding discounts, sales, and mail-in rebates because your console doesn't get them

Do you need me to help you move the other goal post or do you have that one too?

>>380623497
>it's different so it's worse
Yeah, great arguments right there. Nevermind that the weapons are all unique instead of copy pasted like the other games.
Neck yourself soon.