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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III details Arianrhod,

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Get in boys! New Trails thread, try to be civil for once faggots.
http://gematsu.com/2017/06/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-iii-details-arianrhod-ines-duvalie-ennia
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>>380598291
first for duvalie a cute
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Move over Sharon, Duvali is the best maid
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Laura fags rejoice!
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Here's a new image that popped up on twitter. I'm guessing it's new DLC clothing being shown.
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>>380599752
who cares about these hussies
ash's swimsuit when
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>>380598291
Holy fuck how would you not join Orouboros? So many cute girls.
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>>380598291
So this will be Laura's time to shine? Considering how we never got anything about her mother, not even a blurb of her being dead.
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>>380601379
Actually Laura does talk about her mom a few times. But apparently she was very young when she died so there's not much to talk about.
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>>380598291
can't wait to headpat them
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>>380601969
Don't think I ever recalled any thing about that. It would have happened during the Legram trip right? Like usually, there's some flashback or something, but the whole Laura's mom thing seems to have been glossed over.
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>>380601969
Her mom is never mentioned in english localization. No one mentions her even once. Don't know if original japanese script mention her.
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>>380598291
>More girls for the the Mean Rean Meme Headpat Machine Schwarzer Osbourne Dreichels
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Ennia the Demon Bow (voiced by Satomi Sato)
Age: 24
A voluptuous valkyrie who uses a bow and supports the Stahlritter’s lead soldiers alongside Ines.

Like the other soldiers, she adores the Steel Maiden, but sometimes teases Duvalie, whose thoughts about their lady are so genuine.

Knowing the ability of the “Demon Bow,” which always hits its target and can change course in the sky, she supports fellow members Duvalie and Ines to the front lines.
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>>380601379
>So this will be Laura's time to shine?

Class 7 girls are no longer of any consequence, Altina has won the Reanbowl, it's even approved by Best Dad.
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>>380602780
Ara ara Mcburn-kun.
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>>380602780
Ines the Stout (voiced by Mariya Ise)
Age: 23
A valkyrie with the bearing of a warrior who supports Stahlritter’s lead soldiers.
She is a female, but her high stature and large physique exceed 180 Rege, and she has the physical strength to freely swing a huge halberd.
Like Duvalie, she swears absolute loyalty to the “Steel Maiden,” and will faithfully handle her duties no matter the occasion.
She seems to place importance on improving her martial arts, and during the Civil War became interested in a user of the Arseid school of swordsmanship, who clashed swords with lead soldier Duvalie.
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Is this that same girl that studied in the Liberl academy that, who was accompanied by a red haired servant who also studied with her?

The name is similar, and she has the same green hair color. Although it seems like she came to Crossbell with a different servant.
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>>380602780
Shit tier character

>le ara ara teasing mommy/sister character
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>>380603032
>Not like ara aras that tease you

Extreme shit taste right there.
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>>380603018
>Literally Laura
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>>380603018
>I heard you fought my friend so we are rivals now, Laura S Arseid
Smooth, falcom.
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>>380603032
>Trails series.
>Anime as fuck.
>has anime archetype since TitS.
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>380603374
>>380603374
Who will win? Sword autism or big ass axe autism?
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>>380603018
>180 rege
that's 5'10"
guess that's huge in nipland
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>>380603661
Tall for japanese male, mindblowing for japanese female.
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>>380601379
Also Arianhod seems to actually be in Erebonia for a different reason than the Enforcers and Campanella. What are the chances she will actually have a mech and fight Rean in her own Divine Knight?
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>>380598291
Mmmmmm, who these fine lookin ladies? I hope they're romanceable. They look like they're in dire need of that Rean headpattin. The blond one to the left looks like she absolutely CRAVES the Rean.
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>>380604103
This
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Calvard when?
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>>380604007
If she fights Valimar, she's doing it on foot.
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>>380604268
Rean isn't a footfag, he prefers the other end of the body.
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>>380604365
Rean prefers dick because he's a faggot.
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>>380604447
I wish. Homosex would make trails much better
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>>380604007
They said she's there to regain the phantom blaze plan that was supposedly stolen by Osborne.
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>>380604640
>more experienced Anguis has to clean up Vita's mistakes
>Vita still hasn't been mentioned in any way
Kek Vita got fucked so hard.
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>>380604917
I would fuck her hard too
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>>380604640
The seventh Anguis and strongest leading member of Ouroboros.

She leads a military unit of valkyries known as the Stahlritter, and is known for her noble character and supreme skill as a warrior even in the underbelly of society.

She fights wielding a huge cavalry spear and wearing silver armor, and bears a close resemblance to the patriot and hero Lianne Sandlot, who fought in “The War of the Lions” 250 years ago, but only few people know the truth of their relationship.

With the society’s recovery of the “Phantasmal Blaze Plan,” Arianrhod leads the Stahlritter and enters the Empire herself. It seems she has a different objective than Campanella and the others…?


Seems like she has also her own objectives in Erebonia.
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>>380605040
I bet her objective is Rean. She can't resist that based headpattin. I hope she's one of the dating options.
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>>380605401
>>380604626
>>380604365
>>380604103
>>380602194
Same fag.
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>>380605690
Is this your first time in one of these threads, anon?

Reanfag's samefagging abilities are unmatched
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>>380605690
Butthurt cuckbellfag
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>>380599587
It'd be shitty if Laura in any way won.
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>>380599752
Cheerleader shirt says "I love Crossbell".
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>>380606308
Should say I love Rean imo.
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>>380606238
Nah, time skip is always a huge power boost. And since Laura is a super gem in terms of genetics and training, she should be absurdly powerful.
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>bought Cole Steel 1 for muh Vita
>check trophies
>90% missable
>you have to look at the guide every 10 seconds because everything is missable

That was fucking retarded on their part. Yeah, I know that trophies are not a part of the game, but I wish they took autists such as myself into consideration.
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>>380606238
>Fie defeats Shirley
>Laura defeats all 3 stahlritters
>Rean defeats McFaggot and Arianrhod at the same time while being held back by the fact that he has to protect Elise and Alfin with one hand and resurrect Crow with the other
You know it's gonna happen
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>>380606946
>trophies
I have no sympathy for you.
If you had started with Trails in the Sky you'd know that the series has been like this even from the first five minutes.
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>DLC that changes Altina's outfit.
>Have Altina wear the cute, cat-styled swimsuit forced upon her by Millium.
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>>380606946
It's usually fine if you like exploring, and talking to everyone.
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>>380607112
>2 cat themed lolis at one school

Agate needs to stay the fuck away, that place is a dangerous honeypot for any lolicons
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>>380606974
>Rean also fights them his eyes closed because Alisa is there and had a wardrobe malfunction and he's not allowed to look
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>>380607495
Yeah, stay away so that instructor Rean can headpat that cutie Tita without that faggot orbiting them.
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>>380606974
this sounds so awful that they might actually do it
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>>380607112
I swear to god if Rean isn't able to impregnate that in cs3...
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>>380606974
>Rean becomes Enforcer no. XII.
>Laura becomes a Stahlritter
>Gaius turns out to have been a squire.
>Osborne actually completes his goal.
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>>380606974
this sounds so awesome they might actually do it
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>>380606974
>>Rean defeats McFaggot and Arianrhod at the same time while being held back by the fact that he has to protect Elise and Alfin with one hand and resurrect Crow with the other
Please let this happen
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>>380606526
I think these are the same people who forgot that in one timeskip, Estelle went from a complete scrub to someone who can pull off pretty much all of Cassius' staff arts. She's still a retard compared to her dad but she's no longer a complete shitter.

It wouldn't be a surprise if the high end characters in C7 were Estelle tier if not a little higher now.
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So I've been playing through the last dungeon of the 3rd, and the outfits the angel monsters have in it are disturbingly resemblant of the outfits the Stahlritter wear.
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>>380602862
>shipping Duvalie with McBurn
The absolute madwoman.
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>Eisen: Iron
>Stahl: Steel

They're trying really hard to say that she's Sandlot or Sandlot's direct descendant aren't they?
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>>380606974
>Rean defeats McFaggot and Arianrhod at the same time while being held back by the fact that he has to protect Elise and Alfin with one hand and resurrect Crow with the other
You know it's gonna happen
WOW thats so cool just like my light novels
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>>380608878
Arianrhod is her second cousin, twice removed.
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>>380608667
Since most of that world is based off something, i assume their uniforms are based on another world equivalent as well.

Maybe the original warriors they are imitating based their armor off descriptions of what angels supposedly wore.
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>>380606974
>>Rean defeats McFaggot and Arianrhod at the same time while being held back by the fact that he has to protect Elise and Alfin with one hand and resurrect Crow with the other
He'd be more based than onii-sama then, but it'd be cool if it happened
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>>380608667
Given the way Phantasma works, those angels are likely based on mythological descriptions of angels that Rufina would have heard about as a grail knight, presumably the Stahlritter took inspiration from the same source because valkyries are cool.
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>>380608878
Anon, you're so late fucking Laura pointed it out.
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>>380609246
Elie pointed it out first...
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>>380609042
Whos more based Oniisama or Kirito?
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I want to impregnate Laura and not take responsibility
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>>380609472
But Elie isn't as dense as Laura, which is the point.
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>>380609545
I don't think Victor would be alright with that.
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>>380609493
oniisama, kirito isn't as based because he loses sometimes
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>>380609640
does anyone have the copypasta
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Zero feels comfy as shit so far. I also love the little touches everywhere, like when choosing who should cook a certain recipe and getting a little animation of them cooking, or their reactions depending on how good they are at making a certain food.

I feel like they're getting bullied by literally everyone due to the SSS being pretty much a copy of the bracer guild.
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>>380604447
>jusis/elliot/zombie crow ends up winning the reanbowl
>the sound of neogaf suddenly reversing their hatred of him can be heard from outer space
The saddest thing is that this would probably be the neatest way to tie up the Reanbowl since it's a reasonable in-universe explanation to write it all off in the first place.
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>>380609545

TO: R. SCHWARZER c/o THE FACULTY, THORS MILITARY ACADEMY

It has come to my attention that at several times you have privately expressed desire to perform dishonourable acts with Her Grace LS Arseid. Further to our meeting at Legram, when you chose not to disclose your true intentions, I am driven to write this.

I, the Radiant Blademaster, am a hero of numerous actions against this nation's enemies with a record of several hundred foes defeated. I have furthermore been entrusted with captaincy of the Courageous, HRH Olivier's personal airship. What this means is self-evident. I can find you, and I can discuss this matter with you, and I doubt even Valimar can get you out of my reach.

It has also reached my notice thanks to the Reinford Company that you have been distributing photographs of my daughter on the orbal net. At this moment I am co-operating with the RMP and the Reinford Company in locating your Arcus unit so we may discuss how the aforementioned photo-quartz may be dealt with.

It is worth knowing that not only have I personally bested you with and without a sword, I have consulted with Generals Muller and Craig and they agree that a significant portion of the Imperial Army's strength can be diverted to arranging our meeting.

Maybe in future you will realise that the honour of the Arseid name is a matter of some concern to me.

Yours,

Viscount Arseid

PS (to members of Thors' staff) Ensure my daughter is eating well and not staying out late

PPS Enclosed is her favourite Mishy toy

PPPS Do not read those parts aloud
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>>380610156
thank you
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>>380609246
There's no point in going through all of this pretense when everyone knows that Falcom is super predictable.
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>>380606974
Since Nu-Lloyd can solo a Stahlritter that sounds about right.
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>>380610693
Looks like the Stahlritter is just playing around. She seems pretty bemused to me.
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>>380610693
The twist is that It's actually just Lloyd in drag
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>>380610828
Orbment implants have come a long way. Technology is incredible!
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>>380610757
So what you're telling me is that she is holding back?
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Why the hell are you guys being so negative about the next game when it's not even out yet? It's like you guys never liked the series in the first place.
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>>380610984
Stop being defensive Reanfag
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>>380611069
I've never played a single cold steel game yet anon. I'm waiting for the PC release to check them out.
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>>380610984
>he takes shitposting seriously
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>>380610984
Sky elitist , ignore the play every Trails game, enjoy it and ignore this shit hole.
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>>380611209
You should probably leave, unless you don't mind spoilers.
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>>380610984
The writing in the last few games have been pretty subpar
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>>380610017
Zero is really comfy. It's got some really comfy village themes as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXeReyUu_2g

SSS getting bullied is justified though, considering the rampant corruption and how little people think of the Crossbell police in general. It's up to the SSS to change people's minds.
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>>380610984
Because CS is trash?
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Was Vita pretending or did she used her "degree" of freedom to give the plan to Osbourne?
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>>380611209
If you had played Cold Steel 1-2 you'd know exactly why people are being negative.
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>>380610984
Where do you think you are?
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>>380611697
Anguis don't have the same degree of freedom as enforcers. If an Anguis pulls of the same shit Sharon keeps doing, they will get in trouble.
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>>380611457
>posting THE worst Trails character of all time
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>>380611209
Remember to lower your expectations before playing them, Cold Steel 1+2 are shit tier compared to previous games.
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>>380611209
Well that explains it.
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>>380607084
>That feel when missing the rock-finding request on Rolent and thus unable to 100% the game after leaving Rolent
I mean, it's cool in a way but it kinda bugged me that I missed something in the first damn town and couldn't go for 100% even if I wanted at that point.
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vita is best girl, vita is best console
falcom will not be forgiven for their treatment of vita
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>>380612446
But he didn't post Alisa
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>Trying fishing game at least 10 times to win first round
>Finally about to win since the AI missed twice in a row and their last fish was a piece of shit
>They suddenly pull two nearly 220+ point fish back to back despite having nothing good to use as bait

FUCK THIS SHIT. I don't even care what's behind star door 14 anymore
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>>380612576
>Come back to town after a long session of story progression and monster killing
>Check the guild board for new quests
>FAILED
>FAILED
I fucking hate the stupid ass arbitrary "time limits" they use in Sky.
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>>380613085
The easiest way to go about things is to do it as soon as they come up. IIRC there's only one quest where this isn't the case.
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>>380613026
I feel blessed I managed to only lose once on the fishing competition and the blackjack game. Only lost to the sewer lady which at least isn't that long a round compared to the last one.
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>>380612576
>go to bar at outpost
>get permission to talk to General Morgan, leave bar, get told to hurry
If you did not go back to the bar, you missed a book here. Fuck you, Falcom.

>>380613629
The GOD DAMN photography sidequest.
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>>380611457
>Still no mention of Vita, the official anguis of Cold Steel arc
>both Crossbell anguis have been mentioned in prerelease info
Did they fucking execute Vita or something?
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Man, these portraits look terrible.
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>>380612939
>Falcom dumps Vita the console
>Vita Clotilde is demoted and forced to scrub toilets on the Glorious

Bravo Falcom, bravo
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>>380613869
from the thumbnail i thought he was holding a burger for a moment
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>>380613826
>>380613967
Who ranks higher now, Gilbert or Vita?
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>>380614119
Gilbert is the fourth Anguis.
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Are you enjoying her game, /v/? I just entered what I presume to be the final dungeon.
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>>380613704
Blackjack was a smooth ride for me. I found a chart on what you're supposed to do in blackjack given your hand and the dealers hand and managed to clean sweep on my first try.
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>The Stahlritter first appeared in The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Azure, in which a fierce battle with Arianrhod and Lloyd unfolded at the weather vane tower.
Not to be "that guy," or anything, but will the Lloyd gary stu nonsense ever end? How am I supposed to take this Arianrhod person seriously when she gets defeated by a fucking shitty police officer?
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>>380613826
I wonder if they all blame her. Most of the failure wasn't her fault anyway, it was Crow that botched the assassination and got himself impaled.
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>>380615308
I doubt it. They might laugh at her a bit, but it's probably something they'll forgive her for. It's not like she went all Weissman. Just a slap on the wrist and telling her to fix it, which she will definitely be trying to do since it's most definitely personal at this point too.
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>On the very last stretch of 3rd and I already know that I will need more of that Trails in my veins
>Everyone talking about how shit the Zero/Ao translations are

Oh god, what should I do?
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>>380615273
She didn't though. She was just testing how far they would go against her in order to keep moving, you have to remove her helmet's HP bar even and then she powers up mid fight.
After she battle was over, she didn't even seem phased by it, kinda like how Cassius looked after his fight. Plus, the group was big, and he has plenty of power houses, like Wazy, Randy, and Rixia.
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>>380615308
>Focuses on LARPing mech battles instead of Phantasmal Blaze
>Weakens her position and fails to see double agents
>Gets BTFO by an old guy and a blonde bishie
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I don't feel like buying this franchise for my Ps3 but I still want to play it, is it going to be on PS4 or PC soon/ever?
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>>380615706
>Everyone talking about how shit the Zero/Ao translations are
First of all, no. Everyone is saying that it's perfectly playable. Just because there are some less than acceptable lines that we make fun of doesn't mean we hate it.

Zero is perfectly playable. There's no patch for Ao yet though at all.
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Is old schoolhouse confirmed
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>>380615778
I got the impression that having the two full powered mechs rub dicks was going to help the plan.
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>>380615273
Agreed. Like seriously, shitty Lloyd doesn't even use a glorious thousand times folded Nippon steel tachi like the best Trails MC.
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>>380615821
Trails is almost totally on PC.

The first 3 games are on PC on steam and GOG. The 6th and 7th are going to be coming to PC starting this summer. The 4th is available to play with a fan translation patch on a PSP emulator

The only one with no way to directly play them on PC in english is the 6th game and that will eventually change
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>>380615273
You are definitely "that guy", if by "that guy" you mean the guy who is absolutely clueless and wrong about everything.
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>>380615706
The zero patch is from back in 2015, it's playable and understandable but it has awkward English in some places, and words that clearly should be swapped for something else. The project that came out from was still in testing phases, and got dropped for some reason, and someone dug out a file that was available at the time. Some other people are working on making it sound better.

Ao only has a spreadsheet and doesn't have a patch though.
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>>380616061
>hurrrr I'm just a regular 'ol rookie police officer FIGHT ME
>hurrrr I'm a super-powerful mary sue character but I'm gonna lose to you anyway!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fuck off crossbell apologist. Stop making excuses for shitty writing.
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>>380616249
Lloyd doesn't fight her alone, he's with all of SSS, and they don't even win.
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>>380615758
Stop responding to Reandditors.
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Reminder that Crossshit is a bad video game series
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>>380616748
Agreed, my fellow Cold Steelian brother.
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Why didn't Olivier ever flirt with Kevin? He flirted with the rest of the party, excluding his drinking buddy Zin and Estelle at first.
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IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN

ABANDON THREAD
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>>380617132
>They're criticizing our beloved crossbell which is beyond reproach
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>380617064
Olivier doesn't find him cute.
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will agate job?
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So please spoil it for me, do we have any idea at all what Ouroboros' end-game is supposed to be?
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>>380617541
>do we have any idea at all what Ouroboros' end-game is supposed to be?
Of course not. All we have at this point are theories.
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>>380613869
That's the worse thing that happened to Joshua since the death of his sister.
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>>380617541
Getting Anton a girlfriend.
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>>380617275
Olivier has shit taste then.
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>>380613869
Estelle is fine, though she was better originally. It's Joshua who turned into a train wreck.
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>>380603423
she makes my dick very hard

t masochist
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>>380617541
I believe Vita mentioned that the idea behind the Orpheus plan, which is the main plan where all of the other ones are leading up to, which requires all Sept-terrions, is something along the lines of "guiding the souls of humanity".
Aside from that we have no clue.
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>>380617705
Nobody found Kevin cute beside Rufina.
Anelace didn't find him cute and she is the cuteness connoisseur (and yes she can find boys cute ex:Joshua).
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I see we're taking a lot of a bait today
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I think Trails of Cold Steel is a perfectly fine game.
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>>380620341
It is. Far better than Crossshit, in any case.
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>>380620341
It's perfectly fine if you're a child or if you started, but I repeat myself.
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>>380613869
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>>380620593
>>380620341
Go away Reanfags
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>>380613869
It's not as good, but it's not terrible. Estelle looks nice since she looks slightly older. Joshua looks a little off but that's it.
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>>380620813
Stop replying you fucking idiot
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>>380620945
You first reancuck
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>>380621020
Oh you're just samefagging again
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Give me one (1) good reason why you haven't taken the redpill yet.
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>>380621287
>looks like ludens
mmmmmmmmmm. coughdrops.
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Estelle a shit
Tita a best
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REMINDER TO WORSHIP JOSETTE
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>>380621443
Renne a best friendo
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All the trails lolis are SHIT. kys pedos
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I want to get into this series, how do I go around it? I just bought all 3 Trails in the Sky games. After finishing those what should I play.
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>>380621754
After finishing those wait for Calvard arc, skip Cold Steel unless you like Sword Art Online.
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>>380621754
After Trails in the Sky you either play Trails of Cold Steel (first one coming out on PC this summer) or the Trails to Zero fan translation.

Zero is the older game and comes first technically in the chronology, but both Zero/Ao and Cold Steel 1/Cold Steel 2take place right around the same time, so the order isn't that important.

Also, playing the Zero/Ao arc before the Cold Steel arc spoils Cold Steel more than playing Cold Steel before Zero/Ao spoils Zero/Ao. I personally recommend playing cold steel after sky, then going to play zero/ao
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>>380620341
I agree. It's Cold Steel 2 that is the real problem.
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>>380621726
when will they fugg
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>>380621754
Play the Sky games then you can either move on to the Zero fanpatch or wait for the edited version, after that just wait for Ao. Don't bother with Cold Steel.
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is cassius the strongest trails character?
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>>380622908
>Don't bother with Cold Steel.
Literally anyone who says this isn't even a Trails fan. You can't like Trails if you "don't bother with Cold Steel" because Cold Steel is where the story is at right now. It IS the Trails series right now. You are telling people "Ignore everything happening in the Trails series right now and just go play my favorite games instead". That's bullshit.
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>>380622836
Pretty sure they aready did.
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>>380622836
>>380623118
Nuns don't fugg
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>>380623061
no
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>>380623061
Definitive edition of the powerlevel chart.
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>>380623195
They do it's with priest.
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Has anyone played through Ao with the spreadsheet yet? If so, how was it?
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>>380623424
is there a non-meme version?
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>>380623082
>You can't like Trails if you "don't bother with Cold Steel"
You can, but I should clarify.
>>380621754
Nothing happens in Cold Steel 1 and 2 so you'll be alright skipping to 3 when it comes out.
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>>380621754
Series goes:

Sky games
Crossbell arc games, only Zero has a patch now
And Cold steel games, PS3/Vita and coming to PC.

Cold steel and Crossbell happen almost at the same time, and one kinda spoils some things for the other, but Zero and Ao came out first, so technically that one should be played first, but it's fine either way.
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>>380623940
Oh look, it's the sky elitist/reanfag/coldshitter/crossbellcuck at his favourite pastime again, not content with having talked to himself for the majority of the fucking thread.
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>>380623940
>Nothing happens in Cold Steel 1 and 2 so you'll be alright skipping to 3 when it comes out.
What a dumbass fucking post.

Stop breathing
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>>380623424
Excited to see the conclusion of Jusis and Rufus' arc
>>380623940
>Nothing happens in Cold Steel 1 and 2 so you'll be alright skipping to 3 when it comes out.
He won't miss too big of plot points but he'l miss half of the central characters since 3 is the 3rd game for both Crossbell and Erebonia
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https://qt.vidyagam.es/Ca9VNo9.webm
>dat tsun
Agate pls
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The hell is up with this thread? It's like there's people either really into the whole "like one arc, ignore all others", or someone is false flagging hard to create some narrative here.
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>>380624607
>or someone is false flagging hard to create some narrative here.
It's been like that for the past month
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I want Britain to leave.
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>>380624607
Of course it's the falseflagger.
His autism is reaching ACK levels lately.
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>>380624607
It's what happens when there's nothing to talk about.
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>>380615778
I think the point of it was that they were trying to replicate history. More than likely just retracing the steps.
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Leave the Grandmaster to me
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>>380622562
This desu.
CS has its issues, but at least you can see they put some effort into it.
CSII feels like falcom stopped caring the moment they couldn't include western Erebonia, so they said fuck it and rushed the whole game.
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Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection - E3 2017 Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C2EiEOlE5M
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>>380625713
>non-trails falcom games
I couldn't give any less fucks about this game if I tried 2bh
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>>380623424
Wasn't Victor going toe to toe with edgelord form Mcburn?
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>>380625870
He admitted to saying he won't be able to match Mcdude's output. Mcdude walked away from said fight wanting more.
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Aidios isn't real and the church is bunch of faggots
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>>380625257
>CSII feels like falcom stopped caring the moment they couldn't include western Erebonia, so they said fuck it and rushed the whole game.
They didn't even try to hide the padding. The shrines and student collecting felt like chores.
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>>380626634
Hello upstanding D,G Cult member, get me a Tio please
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>>380622562
Whaaat. CS2 had great pacing.
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>>380627104
Say no more
does anyone have the high res ones of these?
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>>380627224
Ignore it. He's just one of the retards who are mad that the game asked you to interact with the world by bringing the scattered students back together.

Personally, I thought it was fun, and I enjoyed getting to know the Thors students. I ignored them in CS1 was so this was nice.
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>>380625815
I like both action and RPG. Your loss.
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>>380627406
needs moar futa tita
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>>380627373
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>>380603661

180 rege is six feet tall.
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>>380628069
no it's not
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>>380627224
The middle of the game is just keeps dragging on and the dungeon at the end was horrible.
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>>380627678
>baby faced Tio

cute. way cuter than that purple haired slut
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>>380627224
>Trails
>great pacing
The middle sections of these games always drags on more than necessary
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Remember when /v/ said "Mint is for bullying" instead of "waahhh why do I have to interact with NPCs"?

What the fuck happened?
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>>380628857
One creates more discussion than the other right now, even if it is just ironic shitposting. Wait until CS3 comes out if you want actual meaningful discussion.
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>>380628857
Sad that the NPCs gets more development than some of the main cast.
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>>380628624
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>>380627224
CS2 was fucking god tier. I feel bad for Shitsona and Final Fagtasy shitters for never getting to experience a genre defining JRPG like based CS2.
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>>380630056
It astounds me how someone who makes these childish nicknames still gets replies.
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>>380621754
Start with Sky

Only pick up Coldsteel if you're about to give up on Sky's slow pacing. Coldsteel is much worse overall, but still a solid game in itself and a good introduction into how these games work.
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Fuck, just got the recipe book in Zero and it keeps crashing every time I try to cook the first dish.
Is this a known issue or should I redownload the ISO?
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>>380623424
Needs Richard in it
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>>380630527
Update your emulator and try it with an unpatched iso, if you're using the patched version.
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>>380630527
Try saving and reloading the game, it fixed my crashing issue.
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>>380623424
>Arios over Deus ex Cassius
>Rufina equal to Stigma Onion
>Luci-jobber-ola at tier A

Shit list confirmed
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>>380631008
>>380630825
I'm playing on my Psp. Will try with the unpatched ISO. Saving and reloading won´t fix it.
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>>380630789

Richard is A- at best.
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>>380628628
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>>380630527
It's not a problem on the emulator i'm playing it ion.
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>>380629651
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>>380633135
what does it say
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Is this the series where you have 2 main characters and the rest of your party sticks around for one chapter at a time?
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>>380633735
The first Trails in the Sky game does that until the final dungeon, but the rest of the games do not. Except Trails to Zero, which is a game that starts you off with 4 members who stick with you, and nobody else really joins long-term at all.
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>>380633735
Seems like it.
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>>380633735
Sky FC - Party members come and go in each chapter, then everyone comes together for the final dungeon

Sky SC - You collect characters throughout the game and they stay with you for the most part

Sky 3rd - Same as Sky SC, except nobody ever leaves the party because they have nowhere else to go.

Trails to Zero - 4 party members. Period.

Trails to Azure - Same as Zero

Trails of Cold Steel - Game starts you off with a 9-member roster but different field studies pair you up with different party members

Trails of Cold Steel 2 - Part of the game includes getting the gang back together, there are some guest characters but for the most part your crew is the same as in Cold Steel 1
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>>380633905
>only 4 cast members
>they're all Alisa tier trash
Who the fuck thought Crossbell was a good idea? Thank god we got Laura and Emma in CS.
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>>380634454
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>>380634454
But there is more than 4
You just didn't play it so you'll trash it.
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>>380635018
Nah, he's admitted to playing it for more bait material
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>>380635018
Not him but there's literally 4 characters. Everyone else you control is temporary as fuck.
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Currently trying not to kill myself by beating Wald on a fresh nightmare run.

Fucking time limit bullshit ruins the whole ordeal.
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>>380621498
I would if her stats and crafts weren't so shit.
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Why are "muh literal" weebs so goddamn autistic?
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>>380635136
I still wouldn't say FC has literally 2 characters just because others are temporary
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>Crossbell has bunnygirls working at casinos
Best
BEST
CITY
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>>380636556
They can't get over the barrier
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>>380598291
So can I start with Trails of the Cold sky 1/2 on pc, right?
Is it just a normal turn based Jrpg?
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>>380636670
>just because others are temporary
Not even the same situation at all.

The sky characters aren't just temporary, they all come back for the final dungeon and you can take your pick.

Even at the final dungeon, in zero, your playable cast includes only the 4 Special Support Section members + Estelle and Joshua.
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>>380636879
>Trails of Cold Sky
Made me chuckle
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fuck
i want to play zero and ao so badly
for those of you who have played zero is it a passable translation
were you able to enjoy the game and characters despite the inaccuracies or errors of the translation
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>>380636823
Oh jeez is that what they meant. I was like "wtf are they talking about a wall" but it was the game's trademark "get over the barrier".
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>>380636556
I want to have sex with Hatsuu
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>>380598291
should i bother getting into the legend of heroes games. someone sell me it please, i'm interested.
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>>380598291
Will NISA or Aksys steal the game from XSEED? I don't want XSEED's shitty dub desu.
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>>380637124
There aren't translation errors and inaccuracies. In fact the issue with the translation is that it translates literally from Japanese and hasn't been edited.

The translation is fine. There are just some awkward lines and such. You can understand and enjoy everything perfectly fine. It's just not the same as a legit Xseed localization
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>>380637124
I'm playing it and enjoying it. I'm finding myself not going out of my way to talk to everyone like in Sky/Cs because a) Crossbell is gigantic and b) the dialogue isn't written very well. But you can play it from start to finish and generally understand what's going on.
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>>380637116
oh it´s coldsteel right? kek, wasn´t intentional.
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>>380633135
w-wait! so you have one of those hobbies?

something like that? anata so iu shuumi no hito?
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>>380637574
That's what it would be literally. Localized version is in the linked post.
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>>380637551
You'll miss out on a few plot related occurrences but it's still honestly the easiest way to start I feel. Sky is still the best but there's a lot to cover.
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>>380637374
First, we need to clarify that it's not the "legend of heroes" as a whole, but rather the "Trails series" specifically, which is just part of the legend of heroes franchise.

The Trails series is easily one of the biggest and most ambitious story-driven JRPGs ever. The dialogue is well-written and the official localizations are very well done, so the dialogue is often amusing and very helpful as far as how effectively it illustrates each character's unique personality.

Basically, if you like long, meaty JRPGs that are made to be enjoyed for the story, then you'll like Trails. Imagine your favorite JRPG expanded into an 8-game (and counting) series with a single overarching storyline split up among multiple self-contained story arcs. That's why people like me love it so much, it's the gift that keeps on giving.
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>>380637574
I believe "shuumi" can also mean "interest", so it would be more accurate to say "You have those kinds of interests?"
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>>380637374
If you like JRPGs, then sure. It is a story driven series, but the gameplay is still okay by jrpg standards. The writing is also pretty good, especially when it comes to dialogue and characterization. The soundtrack is excellent.
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>>380639245
>In the final kiseki game Estelle will abandon staff and go full Divine Blade
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>>380639792
I just want to see Estelle and Joshua flirt in a modern 2017 RPG, is that too much to ask?
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>>380627224
This is correct, in an non ironic way. CS2 is not linear in it's middle stretch, so you can complete it very quickly if you want, or take it slow and go visit everywhere. Even the epilogue dungeon, which is normally seen as filler can be completed very fast if you skip the chests and just fight the 4 bosses.
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>>380636260
Jesus, that was annoying.
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>>380636260
>>380640151
How the fuck
I didn't even manage to do it on hard
How much did you grind
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>>380639792
That would be cool, but Estelle hasn't been trained in the eight leaves one blade school of swordsmanship. IIRC she only knows how to use the staff because that's what her dad taught her. She's got a great teacher but her skills are limited.
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>>380640303
Another guy here. Use food. The battle is not that hard even on nightmare.
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>>380626227
His relatioship black hole is so strong it can even pull estelle in, which Lloyd couldn't do.

Eventually (perhaps when tokyo xanadu and Ys VIII are released in the west) I think these threads should move on to vg and make a falcon general,
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>>380640526
That faggot 3 shotted me with basic attacks on hard with +50% def
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>>380634410
>Trails to Azure - Same as Zero
You keep getting more characters as the game advances, up to 8.
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>>380640303
What i did was:

Got to level 6, bought Lloyd a new weapon, went to the department store and bought him clothing with + 10 DEF, and boots with + AGL. Gave him Evade, speed, and a fire orbment + water. Placed him in the far back so that Wald doesn't hit me at first when i buff up with Forte, then i use my S-break, Wald will delay himself by talking mid fight, and hits me. Then i used the other food item that gives + 20% STR, to buff up more but i ended up wasting it since i ran out fast before i could use it properly. I also did get lucky and dodged twice, AGL accessories and quartz helps. Then, when the buff ran out i battle scoped him, healed when necessary, and buffed up again and when he was around 358 or so HP, i attacked and did an S-break which hit him for 400 i think, and i won.

I had 4 tear balms with me for the fight. Didn't really have to farm all that much.
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>>380640826
>3 shotted me with basic attacks
That means you need to heal every two turns.
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>>380641047
Oh yeah i forgot to mention. I did all the quests available, and got an accessory that gave me +5 STR and equipped it on Lloyd.
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>>380641047
2 tearbalms and +10% hp/ 50% ATS food doesn't carry far
desu I managed to outrun him until the time limit by stacking movement and racing over the arena
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>>380640091
Does it even matter which shrine you do. It's all the same right.
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>>380641508
Running away from the fight and letting the timer run out makes you lose DP, i think.

ATS could be useful now that i think about it. If only magic didn't eat away 2 buff turns.
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>>380641792
I ended up @ detective rank 4 or 5 or some shit so it doesn't matter, I probably missed bunch of hidden sidequests and other shit, including that cooking thing
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>>380641792
>letting the timer run out makes you lose DP
I can confirm this. You lose detective point if you take too long.
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>>380640803
Kek, that Joshua.
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>>380642159
This will come useful in the days to come
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Crossbell > Sky > Akatsuki > Coldsteel
We're all in agreement, right?
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>>380642701

>mobage better than coldsteel

jesus man
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>>380642701
You didn't get even one right.
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>>380642701
Sky > Cold Steel > Crossbell > irrelevant spinoff
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>>380642701
Currently still in the first chapter of Zero so Sky is still the best for me. Don't even think I'll touch akatsuki
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So, which Ouroboros theme you prefer?
>Fateful Confrontation
>Unfathomed Force
>Whatever CS theme was called (Severe Blow?)
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>>380642701
great taste
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>>380642701
Most people didn't even get to play Ao yet, so that's kinda pointless to ask.
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I LOVE ESTELLE!
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>>380644637
But she won't love you
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>>380642159
I like the way that he reacts to most things
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>>380644875
>hotblooded mode
>clueless mode
>moe otouto mode
All good.
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Just so you know, if you're 10 levels above an enemy, and you hit then on the map, they'll die instantly and drop sepith.
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Best boy when?

I'm not the only one who wants to see Toval again, right?
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>>380645259
CS would have been good if the side characters were the main cast.
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>>380645259
Maybe he'll meet Ein in CS3
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>>380645965
Mint is such a cutie.
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>>380608339
he'll impregnate with head pats
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>>380645965
They have everything set up already.
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>>380642701
objectively correct

I even like CS, because I can look past the memes and appreciate its design, ideas, and QoL improvements in the combat system, but Akatsuki having the superior quartz system alone makes me agree with that ranking
It also isn't so easy to break that it becomes mindless easy early on, because you have to grind like an autist for that to happen
As much as the Cold Steels are pretty good games, they're just less good than every other Trails
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My screen just goes black after I kill the big red mosquito in a quest.
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Anyone know how much the Cold Steel games will be when they come out on PC?
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>>380645364
No it wouldn't.
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Does every branch just happen to have a bracer who is a cuteness freak?
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>>380647612
either 40 or 30 bucks
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>>380648281
I was so happy when i found out she get actual chara design in Akatsuki, though recently i found out falcom has her design since crossbell out years before.
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>>380648840
Not bad.
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So if something fucks up with my Zero do I upgrade the emulator or what? Is have to start again don't I?
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>>380650426
Depends on what you mean by "something fucks up with my Zero."
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>>380650632
screen just blacks out
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>>380650426
Manual save files should be compatible across emulator versions, save states are almost never compatible though.
What emulator and what version are you using?
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>>380651306
I got my PSP emulator around 1-2 years ago, and I downloaded the mediafire link for Zero's ISO.
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Rean would easily destroy Lloyd in duel
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>>380606308
>>380606467
>>380600334
Yuuna confirmed for slut.
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>>380651931
Well yeah Lloyd is by far the weakest kiseki protagonist
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>>380651697
Maybe the problem is in on the PSP. Never saw anyone complain about the screen blacking out before.
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Most of the kids in Crossbell are really cute. Also Randy has plenty of fun interactions so far.
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>tfw the cute little loli gets the finishing blow
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>>380599752
>Yuuna gets thematic outfits to match her character
>Muse and Altina get slutwear to match their character
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>>380653243
Randy is pretty close to Olivier tier when it comes to fun.
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>>380655064
Actually, i'm pretty sure it's because yuuna's swimwear already comes with the game, while altina and musse don't and can only have it as DLC.
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>>380642812
Akatsuki at least has the old quartz system.
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>>380655436
Is that so? Doesn't make any sense since Altina seems to have as much importance as Yuuna.
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>>380655436
>Competiton swimsuits for the girls
YES
YES
YES
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>>380643313
The vocal version of Fateful Encounter.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=miUoHyToOrY
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>>380598291
Go to /vg/ already for fucks sake
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>>380655436
>you will never be a St. Astraia student with raunchy fantasies about your oneesama senpai noticing you all school year until one day she returns your affection by meeting you alone in an empty classroom and has her way with you, deflowering you without mercy
why even live
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>>380608417
I hope Osborne gets Keikakued by you know who.
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>>380623809
Here's on using kiseki wiki.
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>>380611610
Just got to wait a year and a half for it. I guess I can play CS on PC when it comes out since it is so far away.
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>>380656353
>Gilbert that high
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>>380613026
The first guy is the most bullshit. I lost 4 times before I beat him, but more than tippled the next 2 guys score. It is fucking stupid.
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>>380655436
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>>380656686
To be fair, if he has a robot to pilot he can do fairly decently.
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>>380656353
>using the faceless picture of Baldur instead of just his art from Ao
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>>380613714
You can still get the 2nd highest rank easily in both games, the top rank prizes aren't that great, and you can just get a 100% save off the interwebs.
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>>380656353
The hell is up with Agate's face?
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>>380656353
>Rocco on same level as Rais & Deen
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>>380655145
CS needed more fun characters, Class VII is full of boring wet blankets. Millium and Crow are both a step down from Olivier and Randy, and Millium is ruined by Ashly Burch and Crow character assassinates himself into worst Trails boy ever in CS2.
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>>380615257
The poker one is a bit strange since it is not any of the standard kinds of poker. I beat it my first try but it took a while.
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>>380656353
Wait, the Ruan gang shows up later as proper bracers? I assume that's Akatasuki stuff? What are their weapon of choice?
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Best zero party coming through
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>>380657284
Change Joshua for Randy and I agree
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>>380657284
Baka Estelle belong support to provide CP
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>>380618931
I want to lure Anelace in with plushes!
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>>380657284
Isn't Randy of Elie still better than Estelle in combat? Estelle is still on the extremely average tier.
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>>380657441
>d-d-don't use Estelle in the active party
FUCK YOU M8

Estelle is my bae, she's always in my active party
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>>380647570
Randy and Tio seem to be paired a lot, do they act like faux-siblings or something?
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>>380657476
Who the fuck says I'm supposed to pick my party based on someone else's opinion of which characters are better in battle?

I make my party based on who I like or who I want to bring to wherever we're going. I'm not a numbers autist like some others who think the only way to enjoy a game is to try to break it.
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>>380656353
Why are there so many characters in this series? Falcom needs to kill off all of the shitters below B+.
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>>380657696
>Falcom needs to kill off all of the shitters below B+.
You mean Falcom needs to kill off 99% of the playable cast throughout the entire series? Because all those super strong characters are NPCs.
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>>380657623
Aside from Randy teasing Tio by giving her many nicknames through the series, she is generally in good terms with everyone on the SSS. My guess is that they just want to pair up the mains together.

Which is weird, because Randy gets a proper pairing in Ao.
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>>380598291
I hate how they reveal so much about the game.
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>>380656353
Why the fuck is Tio being so severely underestimated in this ranking? Tio is far and above more powerful than shitters like Elie, Towa, and Elliot.
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>>380623424
Rufina is not as good as the enforcers, and Wazy has a fucking Stigma.
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>>380625210
That is Zero Joshua tier retarded.
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>>380631137
Arios does have more health and a sword, but the orbal tech and equipment is also better at that point too.

I can still see Cassius with a sword being better, since he taught him and all.
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>>380657641
Breaking games is fun, but I'm with you. Didn't use Laura outside of when the game forces her on you for CS2 and "benched" Rean as soon as I could.

Gaius, Fie, Emma and Jusis were my mains. Millium and sometimes Elliot were my backups. The rest only used when mandatory and Rean was dead weight filling up a slot.
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>tfw almost done with Zero and going to try the spreadsheet thing to get through the Ao main story after
Don't know how well it's going to work, but fuck it. Either I get the gist of it and enjoy the game or I drop it after 30-60 minutes and wait for a patch.
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>>380658435
>not putting Jusis and Millium as a pair in all your parties
Shameful.
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>>380640151
I will never do nightmare after hear all the bullshit people put up with just hard. HP sponges are just boring.
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>>380640373
It's a modified version. Look at Cassius's moves and Richard's. They are very similar.
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>>380640373
She's been trained how to use a staff in the Eight Leaves style, which is what Cassius uses.
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>>380658768
The problem is not really how much of an HP sponge enemies are, is how much damage they do to you, enemy HP doesn't change.

Plus, that fight was bullshit because it had a time limit, and i had to come up with a strategy to beat him fast.
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>>380659128
>trained how to use a staff in the Eight Leaves style
I'm sure that sounded less fucking retarded in your head than it did when I read it on here. Jesus christ.
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>>380657879
>two more Sky games before I get to learn more about Randy
True suffering.
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>>380659205
It's not retarded if you actually played the games. Cassius' staff style is a modified form of Eight Leaves' void and helix forms.
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>>380659315
There is no "eight leaves style for staffs" that's a fucking retarded idea you made up in your head
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>>380659405
>not understanding the nature of all things
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>>380659405
Are you retarded? Go play The 3rd, you fucking moron.
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>>380652531
He is probably stronger than what Estelle was at the end of the 3rd. But of course she is stronger than him currently since she has a 1 or 2 over him.
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>>380656353
>Every single main character except for Kevin is on the same tier list at base
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>>380659405
>Cold Steel babbies
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>>380659519
>>380659593
I did play it and it's still fucking retarded. Eight leaves one blade is a style of swordsmanship, which means FUCKING SWORDS. At best they can fight unarmed out of necessity, but there is NO EIGHT LEAVES STYLE FOR STAFFS.
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>>380659205
You did play the games, right? Eight leaves is more than swinging katanahs. Rean has the unarmed style, Cassius staff style is homebrewed using hachiyou ittou as base
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>>380659676
>I did play it
No, you didn't.
> Eight leaves one blade is a style of swordsmanship, which means FUCKING SWORDS
Wrong. Play games aside from CS and CS2.
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>>380659708
>Rean has the unarmed style
Rean knows the unarmed style out of necessity in case he was disarmed. It's not part of the eight leaves for any reason other than that.

There is NO eight leaves for staffs. Period.
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>>380659676
>entire point of being a Divine Blade is that you've mastered a form
>mastering every form is said to unlock the full potential of every style of martial arts as EXPLICITLY stated in the games
Are you retarded, son?
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>>380659872
Aside from the style Cassius and Estelle practice.
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>>380659872
Goddamn and I thought I was a stubborn nigga.
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>>380659872
The whole fucking point of Eight Leaves is to study the sword as a path to enlightenment in the field of martial arts. Cassius explicitly mastered the Eight Leaves style hence him being able to apply its philosophy to wielding a staff. This shit is all in the fucking games why don't you just play them CS babby
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>>380659982
>Aside from the style Cassius and Estelle practice.
When Cassius wields his staff, he's not using the eight leaves one blade style. Same with Estelle.

Just because CASSIUS knows how to fight with a sword doesn't mean he taught Estelle
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>>380656353
>No Lord of Phantasma

Would be higher than SSSS.

Richard could take on many of the people in A rank too.
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How long would it take to learn Japanese well enough to play through Ao?
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>>380660208
>When Cassius wields his staff, he's not using the eight leaves one blade style
He is using a combination of the Helix and Void forms of Eight Leaves One Blade. Play The 3rd.
> Same with Estelle.
Estelle learned the staff from Cassius, who uses a combination of the Helix and Void forms of the Eight Leaves One Blade style.
>Just because CASSIUS knows how to fight with a sword doesn't mean he taught Estelle
Of course not. Him explicitly being said to have trained Estelle in how to use the staff means he taught Estelle his staff style, which use the Void and Helix forms of Eight Leaves One Blade.
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>>380660352
years of consistent dedicated practice
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>>380657284
I wouldn't use Estelle or Joshua, they already had 3 games.
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>>380660432
If he didn't teach her to use a sword, then he didn't teach her the eight leaves. Not hard to comprehend this simple concept.
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>>380659676
Cassius talks about it if you bring Renne along for his fight. He developed a style for the staff that imitates moves from the eight leaves school.
He's just that good. Tita's dad taught him the basics, but he later developed the new style based on two forms he had mastered.
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>>380660548
>If he didn't teach her to use a sword, then he didn't teach her the eight leaves
He taught her his style of wielding a staff, which follows the Eight Leaves One Blade's Helix and Void forms. Thus, he taught her the eight leaves style.
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>>380660717
>Thus, he taught her the eight leaves style.
No.
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There are no missables in 3rd, are there?

I've already beat it. I just want to know. Nothing ever really seemed missable (besides, of course, things berore the final dungeon since the final dungeon locks you out of the base).
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>>380660760
Yes. Play The 3rd.
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>>380606526
No, she shouldn't because she is boring as fuck.
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This was weirdly challenging. But mostly because i'm doing such poor damage to these guys on nightmare.
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>>380660787
I did. Again, just because Cassius knows how to fight with a sword doesn't mean he taught Estelle. No sword skills = NO EIGHT LEAVES
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>>380660787
Using a style modification doesn't mean you are using the actual style. It is all semantics at this point, stop.
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>>380660904
>I did
No, you didn't.
>Again, just because Cassius knows how to fight with a sword doesn't mean he taught Estelle.
He didn't teach her the sword, he taught her his staff style, which uses the Eight Leaves One Blade's Void and Helix forms.
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>>380656217
>>380608417
I prefer if Osborne is beated by another normal human than super organization or whatever. He archieved something by beating their plans already and proved they aren't omnipotent.
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>>380658015
I am retarded, I thought that was Ries for some reason.
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>>380660960
That is explicitly how the Eight Leaves style works and the entire point of mastering it, and why Cassius is able to wield a staff so effectively even though he trained with a sword.
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>>380660768
There are books that gradually appear after story events. One book in particular you need to take a certain character out of your party and talk to them as they hang around the hub area, they will give you the book. Getting all books gets you perhaps the best accessory in the game, the brilliant crown.
You also get one of two different quartz near the end of the game if you either never run away from a battles, or run away from 300 battles.
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>>380661126
>they pull an FFV
>but instead of making the better item the less grindy option, it's the one where you have to fight every fucking battle instead
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>>380598291
The knight would be a lot cooler if they get rid of that Duvali shittier. The only one that behave like a child and we have to pretend she is such a big deal.
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>>380660768
You need to read all the books as soon as possible to get a shitty accessory. You can get a quartz by not running from any battle by final chapter or running 300 to get another one
You can miss out couple chest messages by not checking them at day/night cycle in ch2
>>380661126
Brilliant crown comes from Star Door 14. It was Carnelia bracelet or something like that
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>>380661234
The Chicken Knife was technically the stronger item in V though. Especially in the hands of a class that can force you to attack normally.
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>>380661126
>never run away from a battle

this one pissed me off. Nowhere in the entire series beforehand had this ever been an issue and suddenly in the last hour of the game some fucking fountain gets pissed at you for taking a few tactical retreats because you got ambushed and the enemy got a few Death Bonus turns if you were going to actually play it out instead of rerolling the battle.
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>>380661349
That's what I said. If you actually grinded out every battle you were rewarded with a weapon that would become shit if you ever run from a fight, while the Chicken Knife had no downsides and couldn't lose power, and also raised a better stat (agility over strength).
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>>380661441
The brave blade would be the less grindy option though since people are inclined to fight everything in a rpg than running away though.
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>>380661565
Only autists fight every single battle in a game with random encounters.
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>>380661565
The chicken knife only requires you to flee only 255 times in the entire game to hit max power, it also benefits from agility as well as strength instead of only strength.
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>>380661614
>Only autists
In a game like FFV where progression comes from getting things that are only rewarded from winning battles then fighting everything is logical.

Its a game like SaGa where you'd be autistic to fight everything because enemies scale to the amount of battles that you fight or one with enemies on field.
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>>380661119
No its not. They even said why he was so good with a staff in game. I believe it was in SC. It had nothing to do with Eight Leaves, which is a sword style. Which again was explained with the Anelace Star door.

Apply yourself.
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>>380656353
Randy should be A+
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>>380661416
To be fair, the quartz is nothing ground breaking. The only hint you have about it, is checking the achievements, one of them hints at not running from battle.
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>>380661126
>never run away from a battle

I did this and still didn't get the damn thing.
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>>380661808
>Only 255 times
That's like a quarter of the encounters in the average playthrough assuming that you already know where the go.
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>>380662004
Didn't he get his ass handed to him by Shirley though?
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Are there missable sidequests in Zero? I'm only doing the ones i get from the Police computer because i can't be bothered to run around the whole goddamn city talking to everyone in case there's a hidden quest.
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>>380662072
The bullshit part is figuring out where you get it. Remember the pond where you drink water to recover CP? Well, in the final chapter, there will be an intractable thing in the center of it. It will task you with either running, or fighting.
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>>380662224
try gamefaqs and their boards

That should have better info than what you get from here.
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>>380661319
>Star Door 14
Fuck, I thought it was wrong but I couldn't remember what it actually was so I went with the first name I could recall. They're very similar accessories though, Esmelas Circlet gives around +50 to the important stats and +10 Speed where Brilliant Crown gives +100 and +15 Speed.

>>380661416
I can't be too mad at the fountain, it fueled my CP addiction.
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>>380662204
Wasn't his uncle trying to bring him back to make him the leader? pretty sure he had the potential to be as strong as his father.
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>>380662224
Here:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/995652-eiyuu-densetsu-zero-no-kiseki/faqs/66823

I've been told this guide works fairly well to know what to do. It avoids spoilers as well. Also, the prologue does have a hidden quest. After you talk to the reporter, and you go visit the bracer guild, the receptionist would give you a quiz.
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>>380662308
I checked there and where you get the items in the first chapter. Nothing.

I will look again after going through the Abyss and bit and check back. I already did the 400 encounter door, so that isn't the problem.
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I'm at the school festival in Cold Steel I.

I feel pretty overwhelmed with all the shit I feel I'm going to miss, but the game is pretty much unplayable with how shit it performs.

Should I just use all my tickets to get it over with? Or am I actually going to miss something important?
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>>380661946
>In a game like FFV where progression comes from getting things that are only rewarded from winning battles then fighting everything is logical.
Not when said rewards are terrible. Nobody fights mobs when the reward is a paltry amount of gil, 1 AP, and a tiny amount of exp. Once you've fought 20-30 battles in an area there is no reason to fight any more. That's not even factoring in that getting the Brave Blade requires you to eschew getting the treasures from Worus Castle's basement which are more useful than any extra exp and gil you'll get from fighting every single fight in the entire game. It also makes the games a slog.
>>380662114
That's not even close to a quarter of the encounters. You're also forgetting the massive amount of time you save running from pointless encounters instead of fighting every single one.
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>>380662437
You need to be in the final chapter, and then check the center of the pond like i said. Just walk near the edge until you get a prompt to interact.
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>>380662653
>Worus Castle Basement
IIRC there was an alternate method to get paste that monster besides running away and out grinding it.
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>>380662848
Yeah, you have to savescum until you don't get into a random encounter. That's the only way. It also takes much longer than running away does. The only way you could have the Brave Blade not be useless is to completely miss those treasures.
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>>380662991
>You have to savescum
No you don't. I swear that monster had some weakness to time magic or something.
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>>380663098
Not as far as I'm aware. You can barely even damage him at that point and I don't even think you have time mage at that part of the game.
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>>380663160
You get Time Magic right after the Water crystal which is like the very next story dungeon. Besides the castle doesn't close off until the end of World 1 when you enter the portal.
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>>380662528
>but the game is pretty much unplayable with how shit it performs.

This is why Falcom moved to the PS4 for CS3. The Vita is a weak piece of shit in 2017.
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>>380663305
I don't think you get Stop until well after that though, which is the only time magic I can think of that would let you cheese that enemy.
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>>380663415
You get it in Karnak which is the next story town. Also the rewards are a shitty time magic spell and an accessory with a chance to dodge physical attacks that you can buy more of.

The real reason why you want to go down in the bottom of that castle is because its the only place where you can get that time magic spell for completion purposes and IIRC you never lose access to that castle so you could just feasibly come back in World 3 and pick it up then.
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>>380663584
The accessory is infinitely more useful early on than the handful of exp you get from never running from fights, and on top of that you have no way of knowing you'll get punished for running from fights at that point so the average player will bring a thief and !flee from every fight to get the treasures. I know that's what I did. I always had !flee when I wasn't fighting a boss though, because most people don't have the patience to grind out every single encounter in the entire game.
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>mfw the platinum in CS1

they expect me to play the game 10 fucking times to get all the bonding events?
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>>380663798
I can understand running away from things obviously too strong for you if you don't know about the !Control trick especially with the Skulleaters in the cave but running away after 30 battles in an area is just gimping your characters because classes like Freelancer and Mime which are the only ones worth taking in the endgame outside of like Gladiator (which is remake only) require you to be mastering skills.

Besides, not many players would run away from the 255 battles needed to full power the knife if they didn't know any better especially since IIRC the power value is locked when you pick it up. So while it is the stronger weapon, calling it the less grindy option is stretch.
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Have they showed off Elliot, yet? Is he more of a fag now? Can I romance him now?
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>>380663359
b-but muh saves
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Haven't been in a Kiseki thread in weeks. Are the nisafags gone yet?
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>>380598291
There is nothing more disgusting than a woman in armor.
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>>380664249
IIRC he has a ponytail

but the most they showed was a silhouette,
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>>380664136
ng+ has an option for unlimited bonding points, or maxed out levels. I think you can platinum CS and CSII in two playthroughs if you plan it carefully and use saves.
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>>380664136
Or sit through a few hours with save slots.
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>>380664365
>There is nothing more sexy than a woman in armor.

fixed
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>>380664382
>a ponytail
My fucking heart. I like Sara and all, but Elliot is my boy. Best boy.
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Please tell me i get to fuck over this section chief asshole later on, he pisses me off.
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>>380664593
Might as well admit you like women crossdressing and using male pronouns, you fucking degenerate.
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>>380664220
>but running away after 30 battles in an area is just gimping your characters because classes like Freelancer and Mime which are the only ones worth taking in the endgame outside of like Gladiator (which is remake only) require you to be mastering skills.
Running away from 30 battles early game is compeletly negated by fighting one (1) battle in endgame. You get literally 1-2 AP per fight for the entirety of the first world, and you never get more than 5 AP average from random fights at all until the final dungeon.
>Besides, not many players would run away from the 255 battles needed to full power the knife if they didn't know any better especially since IIRC the power value is locked when you pick it up.
The power changes even after you pick them up. If you get the Brave Blade at full power and run from one fight, you're stuck with the gimped version. Same applies to the Chicken Knife; you can power it up after getting it and even though it has 23 less BP than the Brave Blade at full power, the knife damage calculation makes up for that if you have the right jobs mastered.
>calling it the less grindy option is stretch.
Not even remotely, it is objectively the better weapon unless you fight every single battle you ever get into in the entire game (which includes many early game fights that you've just made significantly harder due to the lack of the cape from that basement), versus a weapon that gains power whenever you skip a fight. There's not even an argument here. Fighting hundreds of battles vs. skipping hundreds of battles, somehow the second option is grindier? What the fuck are you on?
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>>380664723
He becomes a party member in Ao
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>>380664905
Wait, i think i might have worded him wrong, i meant the vice chief, the bald four eyed ass who keeps talking shit about our section, and told us to get out of it since we had no future in it, since it would most likely get disbanded.
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>>380664723
What are you talking about, he's a bro you could ask for
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>>380665298
I ended up saying chief, but i meant the vice chief who keeps finding reasons to berate everyone on the SSS.
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>>380613026
It's just like the fishing in SC, if you played much of that. Wait until you have to play 10/15 rounds and start to lose those. It hurts.
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>>380664789
I don't know about you, but the average mindset in a JRPG would be to fight things unless they're obviously too strong for your party or you're running low on items and want to get out. Neither of these conditions happen very often in a game as easy as FFV where you can finish random battles in the click of a single button after a while.

Some people will also view running away from battles early on as requiring extra make up grinding in the endgame because now you have to fight to get skills that you should have already and then master skills that you should be training in the endgame. While this isn't actually the case especially with Objet D'Art 5 AP grinding and Movers so you can actually just do your grinding early and skip everything to the normal person they'd probably just think you're doing some sort of challenge run by running away from everything.
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>>380666025
>I don't know about you, but the average mindset in a JRPG would be to fight things unless they're obviously too strong for your party or you're running low on items and want to get out.
Only if you're autistic or bad at the game and need the extra level ups, most people run from fights once they're a waste of time.
> Neither of these conditions happen very often in a game as easy as FFV where you can finish random battles in the click of a single button after a while.
This doesn't happen until over halfway through the game.
>Some people will also view running away from battles early on as requiring extra make up grinding in the endgame because now you have to fight to get skills that you should have already
Already debunked this.
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>>380665973
I never had a problem with that one. Just fish up a small fish, then use the fish for a bigger one. Last round i just use shrimptlet to fish up bass.
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>>380665196
Yeah him
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>>380606238

Duvalie was never that overpowered. The party even took her down the first time they met her.

Yeah she unleashed more power after getting tired of Bullying but Class 7 still acted like they could take her, they'd just waist time and effort, and Toval was able to stalemate her when he and Prince showed up.

Considering Laura's spent a year and half doing nothing but sword training she can probably take her solo now.
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this final dungeon in zero is so fucking annoying
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>>380666420
>Only if you're autistic or bad at the game and need the extra level ups, most people run from fights once they're a waste of time.
Just fighting whatever pops up is different from grinding anon. Or it could be a game like Etrian Odyssey where you actually really want to be fighting things because selling drops is a requirement for equipment progression or Legend of Dragoon where you actually really need to be fighting to train up your main sources of damage.

>This doesn't happen until halfway through the game
Aqua Breath decimates almost everything in fucking World 1 and you get that right after the Fire Crystal if you can survive the Chimera. World 2 enemies get durable again but there's items that boost your spell damage like the Air Knife + Aeroga combo.

>Already debunked this.
Did you even read the rest of my post or did you just stop? I said that while people think so its not actually the case due to the existence of Movers.
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>>380667532
>Or it could be a game like Etrian Odyssey where you actually really want to be fighting things because selling drops is a requirement for equipment progression
Gathering skills are far more effective at acquiring en
>Aqua Breath decimates almost everything in fucking World 1 and you get that right after the Fire Crystal if you can survive the Chimera.
It still takes longer than just using !Flee.
>Did you even read the rest of my post or did you just stop? I said that while people think so its not actually the case due to the existence of Movers.
So? It's the fucking case, so your argument is irrelevant in the first place. You're going to be literally two or three battles away from mastering everything if you run from EVERY SINGLE ENCOUNTER in world 1.
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>>380667782
Gathering is more efficient for en but you actually need regular monster drops to make new weapons and accessories. Armor is pointless because it scales like shit in every game but V.
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So now that the dust has settled can we all agree that the 3rd is the best game of the TitS trilogy?
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>>380667940
>you actually need regular monster drops to make new weapons and accessories
And once you have those there's no reason to continue fighting. If you seriously never run from fights in a fucking EO game you have autism.
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>>380668003
It's certainly better than the other 2 in terms of gameplay. I also liked the lore and past exposition.

I need to replay the other ones to give a better judgment since it's been a while since i played FC and SC.
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>>380668003
I sure as hell agree with that
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>>380668323
Not the guy you're arguing with, but usually in most RPGs, you're strong enough to end the fight super quick, i usually just kill the enemy and proceed. Running would be slightly faster, but i just like the extra drops/exp and such.
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>>380668003
No.

The combat was more enjoyable, but Sky SC is clearly the superior JRPG overall.
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>>380668323
If you're strong enough to drop them in one fucking move why the hell are you putting up with fucking around with the rng to flee? Especially in a game like EO where monsters can shit on your party when given a chance.

If you're not going to be fighting things then you either take the shortcuts/floor jump or you use the encounter rate down items.
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Whose dumbass idea was it to remove Haze for Zero?
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>>380668787
hi
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>TFW castle of illusions started playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDjFAWBwvyI&t=97s
The cheesy, nice natured and encouraging chests were a nice touch. Kinda made it feel like it was the end of the series though.
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>>380668665
>If you're strong enough to drop them in one fucking move why the hell are you putting up with fucking around with the rng to flee?
!flee has no RNG involved.
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>>380598291
where do I get that trails to zero crappy translation you are all playing
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>>380669338
>Flee has no rng involved
Name one game.
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>>380669338
If only !Flee existed in EO.
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>>380669425
the internet.

Not sure when the last time it was uploaded to a website was 2bh. Someone might have a link
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>>380669446
FF5
>>380669502
I know EO4 had it, I don't remember if there was anything like it in EO3 or 2. I never played 1. Regardless running from fights is still advisable in any dungeon crawler because it saves resources.
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>>380669446
Every Trails game aside from Cold Steel 1 and 2
Chrono Cross
most FF games
most SMT games
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The worst part of Zero so far is having to use battle scopes to see what monsters are weak to. Also not just having that information automatically display
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>>380669740
There's a forced escape option in EO4 but using it a last resort because it puts you back at the start of the floor if not the entire dungeon. If you're at the point where's running low on resources in EO, you're better off just leaving the dungeon.

Fleeing to conserve resources is only advisable if you're going to be going straight for the boss and EO4 is a very nice game that hands you options to reduce encounter rate. Btw running away means starting bosses with less of a Limit/Burst Gauge because you lose it if you run.
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>>380670029
I felt it was better than wasting a slot with a quartz to check enemy info.
I fucking hated that. Plus in sky, you couldn't even check what an enemy was immune to mid battle.
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>>380669805
Crossbell games have rng in fleeing, unless using smoke bomb
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>>380670234
I thought that was only in the evo versions? I never played the original.
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>>380669740
>>380669805
You should only be fleeing if the battle will take more resources than it gives in return.
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>>380670619
I'm playing the PSP version, and it's there.
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>>380669805
>Most FF and SMT games
>No rng involved in fleeing
Do you even play the games?

There are skills that force an escape but the default flee commands have rng involved and those are the ones that you're going to be relying on more often that not.
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>>380669446
Paper Mario, if you can mash fast enough you can escape no matter what.
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>>380670798
Nearly every FF game has a Flee command that guarantees you to run away. SMT games have items and skills, though they're later in the game, but that's the point of the game where you'd want to flee the most anyway.
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>>380670632
.. OR you could flee if you just don't want to deal with a fight.

I will never understand the obsession some people have with "GOTTA HAVE THE BEST EVERYTHING" or "GOTTA BE 100% TOTALLY EFFICIENT WHEN I PLAY THIS GAME". It's literal autism.
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I want to hug this cute creature.
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>>380670892
It's just autists in denial, who insist that normal people grind out every single fight in every single game.
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>>380671013
There's a reason why low level runs are considered challenges and not the norm anon. Because most developers design jrpgs under the assumption that you're going to be fighting 90% of the encounters in the game. Not fighting 20-30 battles in an area and running away from everything after that.
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>>380671204
>There's a reason why low level runs are considered challenges and not the norm anon
>running from fights that are a waste of time is a low level run now
Holy strawman batman
> Because most developers design jrpgs under the assumption that you're going to be fighting 90% of the encounters in the game.
They design them assuming you're going to fight until fights are no longer enjoyable (IE when you can oneshot them) and that's where they're capped.
No wonder you thought FF5 was so easy, you were overleveled to hell and back
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>>380671204
>if you don't grind out every single fight in the entire game then you're doing a low level challenge
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>>380671464
>Overleveled
Unless finishing the game at the high 30s is considered overleveled?
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>>380671774
So you're a liar now?
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>>380671857
>A liar
I finished World 1 in the 20s, ran away from things in World 2 especially in Exdeath's castle and I just didn't care anymore in world 3.
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>>380672042
So, you did run away from many fights, meaning you're full of shit.
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>>380672092
You can fucking speedrun World 3 because you don't need to get all of the damn tablets. Its by far the shortest section of FFV and the one that's entirely about team setup and level checks.
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>>380672275
>nobody ever runs away from a ton of fights
>except all these parts where you run from fights
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