How did Microsoft manage to make the X Box one X ($500) out perform

you can do 60fps 1080p which is better than 4k 30fps with a gtx1050 in most games which is 100€
sage in all fields

By giving it a shit cpu. That said, a 1060 will be roughly on par with XOX if we take into account the graphics options.

>>380592123
>60fps 1080p better the 4k 30fps.
No

By reducing the other effects, for example, I could set the graphics preset to low and bump the resolution to 4k and 60fps, or I could set it to High and do 1080p and +100fps. Thats basically what the X will do. If you believe otherwise, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

>>380592123

>sage in all fields

Clearly not

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>>380592008
>outperform 1080
>can't even run things at basic framerates

Another 5 years of garbage framerate

>>380593509
This is the game, not the system. They need a level playing field for competitive multiplayer. It would be unfair if Xbox One X owners had an advantage.

>>380592008
First off the IGP in the XboneX is nowhere near a 1080, or a 1070. The closest analog in the PC world would probably be an RX 470 in terms of actual memory bandwidth and compute units, except instead of being 4th generation GCN, the XboneX is still just 2nd gen for compatibility with the original Xbone.

The reason it looks so powerful vs Windows 10 PCs is Microsoft controls the DirectX API used by most games on Windows. This allows them a lot of leeway to heavily optimize the API for their console (where they make money off of every aspect of the system), while de-tuning it on general PC hardware (where 3rd party stores are dominant and Microsoft can't make money).

>>380592776
I'm a Nintendo fag and even I prefer 1080p@60 rather than 2160p@30

>>380592776
Yes. Every time.

Ahh yes, I have a V8 from the 1960s, and since it has as many cylinders as your V8 it's just as powerful!

>>380592008
>listening to the memes

Yeah and the ps3 can do 1080p/60fps, its literally a super charged PC!!

PCs hold back the true power of consoles

Remember the CELL in PS3? Not a single PC in the Universe can beat it even today

>>380592008
It's probably on par with a 1060. I have a 1060 and a shitty 2500k CPU and can still run most modern games in 4k at 30 - 45fps, even 60 if I knock the settings down a bit and depending on the game.

And that's actual 4k, not this checkerboard rendering shit the Xbone is doing in half of its games.

>dynamic resolution checkerboarding fake 4k 30fps low to mid console settings
That's how
Running games at 4k isn't hard when you go for some of the lowest settings especially draw distance

>>380592776
frames>pixels
always

>>380592008
>How did Microsoft manage to make the X Box one X ($500) out perform a 1080 ti?
By what metric besides TFLOPS (lol) does the Scorpio manage to outperform a 1080 ti?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E5L2sOvNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oPvbpVGP0

>checkerboarding
>30fps
>bad texutres and pop in
But hey let's shit on Horizon for using checkerboarding right?

>>380592008
Checkboarding and setting graphics to low-medium.

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I can't wait to play Scalebound in 4K

Xbone X is more like a 980 Ti, it's far cry from a 1080 Ti

The CPU will also cause some issues, Microsoft should have put in a Ryzen

>>380596504
They couldn't because it would require different optimizations, probably require games to be recompiled for best performance. Not to mention Ryzen cores would take up significantly more die space which would either mean less room for a GPU which is a big issue when they have to stick with GCN 1.1 for compatibility.

Plus they would have had to have started on the Scorpio hardware quite a while ago to release it now. Ryzen+Vega SOCs are only just starting to become available now for their release later this year.

>>380593509
>bungo has sony exclusivity contract
>piss4pro can't run destiny 2 at 60fps
>xbone x can
>sony throws a bitchfit because they don't want micro$oft to one-up them on performance
>bungo caps both consoles to 30
you know that's how it went down

>>380596504
It's not even close to a 980ti honestly. Getting games to run at 4k or well in some cases on Xbone X not even full 4k isn't hard when console games usually use low or mid settings especially for textures, draw distance and shadows and yeah, just like with the PS4 the CPU was a huge mistake, who thought that a beefed up mobile CPU is a good idea

>>380596150
>shitty 2500k

nigga oc that shit and you have a cpu that is on par with a 6600k

>>380593992
That would only make sense if they limited pc framerate. PC runs at 60fps and will get cross play with xbone

>>380596125
Consoles hold back the power of PC, and now the power of mid-gen refresh consoles.

You're not expecting them to make games that run like a slideshow on original Xbone/PS4 are you? All the 4K bump will do is justify keeping the cinematic 30fps.

>>380596984
>Consoles hold back the power of PC

nigga i dont have 6000$ to spend on a pc

>>380596796
if you're a paranoid autistic, sure

>first half of gen hamstrung by x360 and ps3
>second is also held back because launch consoles were that bad

>>380597091
>he thinks it takes $6000 to build a high end PC
top kek.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K4zGNN

It'd be around 1700-800 if I wanted to get a 1080

>dynamic resolution
>bad draw distance
>bad textures
>bad shadows
>checkerboarding
>most games 30fps
That's how and that's how consoles will always do it. They're meant for people that are fine with low-mid settings as long as they get to play all their shit or exclsuives

>>380596984
Unlike PCs, x1/PS4 can run any game at 1080p

Your stupid gambling machines ruin gaming for everyone, if it weren't for defragmentation we would have much much much longer gens

>>380597304
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K4zGNN

Stupidly expensive and poorly optimized, and you're cheating by somehow getting certain things far below retail. Not really a compelling argument.

For a gaming PC you generally want to spend more on your GPU than your CPU

>>380597304
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K4zGNN
what a shitty build

>>380597570
>>380597576
>t. /v/

Never ceases to make me laugh. Humor me, what would make it "better" ???

>>380597201
It's called business, dummy. Sony isn't going to allow a competitor who doesn't have a limited exclusivity contract outperform them. Sony is loves getting mad when they don't get their way. Look at how they defend their cross-platform play denial.

>>380597570
Also to add, the mouse/keyboard/headphones, I got a few years ago. The wireless adapter and sound card are set at $0 to not add to the price as I will purchase them later down the road.

>>380597304
>all that wasted money
Fucking why?

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>>380597304
ahahah faggt

>>380597819
Ryzen still isn't good/old enough to consider. But thank you for the memes my friend, have a (you)

>>380597901
>t. /v/ 16yo kid

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>>380592008
>console kids falling for the "it's real 4K!" meme

Protip : checkerboard, "dynamic", or upscaled 4K =/= real 4K, kid.

>>380598018
>wastes a post to not explain how to make my build "better" ???

well???

>>380598037
Idiot
It's the most efficient way of reaching the 4K image, that's it, the difference is very small

>>380597636
You're buying a very expensive, inadvisable to overclock CPU, and then spending more money on extra cooling which probably won't matter much.
You're spending less on your GPU than your CPU when you should be spending more, usually significantly more.
A system in the $600 range can fit a mid-range card like a 480 in (at least when the price is not being driven up by coin miners), a system in the $1500 range should include a top end video card.

>>380598197
Wow it's 1080i on the 360 all over again.

>>380598407
>spends 1500$ on a build
>gayms @1080p

ahahahahah

>>380598440
You know nothing

>>380598407
>its wrong to futureproof
I could go a $100 less to get a 6600k, but why? For $100 more I could get the latest intel i7 right now. Secondly, I don't plan on overclocking, but having the option in the event that I see a reason, is nice.

>not getting an aftermarket CPU cooler
I enjoy not having a burning CPU thank you.

>GPU money > CPU money
I am getting the 480 (switching to 580, forgot that released) for now until the VEGA comes out. I don't use Nvidia and never will. I want to get Ryzen but the test results aren't reliable enough, and getting anything under their Ryzen 7 1700/1800 is pointless, seeing as the performance versus comparable intel CPU's is much less.

Point being, I am running a 480 until AMD's high end comes out.

>>380598530
>he needs anything more than 1080 @60fps
:)

>>380598689
Tell me why I'm wrong.

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>>380598197
>w-who cares it's not 4K and it's fake i-it's efficient !

>>380598197
And yet people bashed Horizion Zero Dawn for doing at for months

>>380598903
Because you're stupid, duh

>>380599060
Enjoy your fancy interlacing and upscaled 1080.

>>380598783
>futureproofing
4 core / 8 thread i7 isn't futureproofing, especially not when the socket isn't likely to be used in the future.

>I enjoy not having a burning CPU thank you.
The stock cooler will be good enough for default speeds which is all you're going to get.

>getting anything under their Ryzen 7 1700/1800 is pointless, seeing as the performance versus comparable intel CPU's is much less.
You're ignoring that the Ryzen 5 chips are good overclockers, cost $100 less and still perform right in line with the top end Ryzen chips when cranked up to the same clock speed.
Plus you can greatly increase game performance in many cases by restricting to a single CCX leaving the other for system tasks and other stuff like recording.

>>380592008
It's not the end of PC gaming, in fact it could bring it back to glory. This entire gen and the ending half of the last gen saw a rise of PC players but all they have done is shit up everything with streaming, greenlight trash, and awful ports. If consoles take back their spot PC can go back to being the niche system like it used to be where the games felt like real PC games and not console trash.

I've always played on both PC and consoles, but back in the day PC games were things like Age of Empires and Battlefield 2 that could only exist on PC. The kind of games I played on console are only enhanced by playing them on PC now but the kind of games I played on PC are gone forever, it's all console games designed around the flaws of controllers but playing something like nu-battlefield or siege on PC just means every gun is a sniper rifle because of the accuracy of a mouse and takes all the fun out of the game

>>380599219
>4 core / 8 thread i7 isn't futureproofing, especially not when the socket isn't likely to be used in the future.
>he thinks the socket is going to be obsolete anytime soon
Keep thinking that.

>The stock cooler will be good enough for default speeds which is all you're going to get.
Keyword: good enough. I want better. And for some $20, I get better temperatures.

>You're ignoring that the Ryzen 5 chips are good overclockers, cost $100 less and still perform right in line with the top end Ryzen chips when cranked up to the same clock speed.
Plus you can greatly increase game performance in many cases by restricting to a single CCX leaving the other for system tasks and other stuff like recording.
And what you're ignoring is that the Intel Core i5/i7's are better for gaming performance than Ryzen.

Ryzen is suited for tasks that aren't gaming, which is funny considering that they are marketed for gamers. Just face it friend, you're in the wrong here.

>>380592008
A 1080ti is capable of native 4k/60fps on high settings.
XboneX runs checkerboarded 4k (probably from 1440p/1800p like the Pro) 30fps at medium settings. The GPU is about equal to a 1060/580. The CPU on the other hand is some garbage mobile-tier piece of shit. Seriously, the CPUs in the current gen consoles are turds. I'm actually interested to see what next-gen consoles will be capable of with full Ryzen/Vega based APUs in them.

It's okay when MS doesn't do TRUE 4k even though they advertised it non stop at their dumb conference

>>380599489
I mean the other guy isn't God's gift to /v/ but if you think your cpu is you futureproofing then you're delusional. Especially if you have no intention of overclocking(which dude come on literally why not it's free performance)

>>380596125
And not a single developer ever got the best out of the cell because it was radically different to all of the other systems were used to.

>>380600041
Then tell me, what CPU would be futureproofing? Because Intel Cores are pretty much the only CPU's worth using right now.

And until Ryzen gets better gaming performance, there is literally no reason to use it.

>>380599489
>And what you're ignoring is that the Intel Core i5/i7's are better for gaming performance than Ryzen.
All things being equal sure, but the difference between a $200 Ryzen and a $300+ i7 isn't that great, and the ~$100 more you can spend on the GPU for the same budget more than makes up for the difference especially at higher resolutions or with modern APIs where the single thread CPU bottleneck is reduced.

Besides if you have a moral problem with Nvidia over their monopolistic pricing, and unsavory business practices you should definitely have a problem with Intel who are ten times worse.

>>380597304
I don't think you know nearly enough about computers to build one without wasting your money.

Take this to /g/ and get flamed so you'll actually have a decent machine for your cash because this hurts to look at.

If you think you're going to be able to play any game at 60fps that was revealed at e3 with that 480 then you're delusional and I say that as someone with your exact gpu.

All the checkerboarding shit that Sony did with PS4 Pro is suddenly totally fine when Xbone does it

>>380600260
Bruh you're talking about budgeting and futureproofing aren't you?

Intel has better gaming performance because of their single core performance. Ryzen has better multicore performance. The difference is that of about ten frames for any given game iirc (when it's up in the 130fps range.)

For what you're spending, you're not gonna get max frames on any game anyway (especially with that 480) so you're spending on that Intel card when you can overclocking a Ryzen chip and have the extra money to buy a video card that's good for something that isn't cryptocurrency mining.

Also, yeah, Intel changes their chipset every generation or two. They're notorious for it.

>>380600056
>THE CELL paired with high memory is exciting as fuck in tech terms
>but market forces always look for the cheapest, most profitable alternative, which is still the same old PC architecture
Its just such a crying shame. Makes me wish a company like Samsung with an R&D division would develop THE CELL further.

>>380600324
I don't have a moral problem with Nvidia, I've just always used AMD GPU's tbqh. I don't see a reason to switch.

Plus AMD GPU's are going to have much more compatibility with Ryzen in theory. Besides, once VEGA comes out, we'll be seeing comparable performance against stuff like the 1060/1070/1080.

>>380600424
Funnily enough, it was built with help by /g/. And I will be able to play any game revealed at E3 at 60 FPS. I'll just upgrade to the 580 for a tiny bit more, and get a second one and crossfire them. No biggie tbqh.

>>380600819
The thing is though, there is no point in buying Ryzen at any level below 1700X/1800X. So effectively, I'm buying a i7-7700k either way.

>>380600260
The CPU comparison benchmarks that you're looking at almost always use equivalent memory, the same GPUs, and at low resolutions (like 1080p) where the single thread CPU bottleneck in many games is most pronounced.

A Ryzen build with faster memory and a better GPU is going to be better than an equivalently priced modern gaming PC with a standard 1440p display, or a high resolution 2160p display.

This would be a much better gaming system for the foreseeable future.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dCwCWX

>>380596125
>>380600993
>>380600056
Cell is just a "reinvented GPU" of sorts.
Great at FPU load, crap at actual CPU load.
You pretty much can do the same shit cell did with well, actually coding for the GPU using things that allow you to run general code on it like Open CL or vulkan.

But if your console lack an actual CPU for CPU loads, shit get dire.

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>>380601112
>Plus AMD GPU's are going to have much more compatibility with Ryzen in theory.
What theory? GPUs use standard interfaces there's literally no difference.

>The thing is though, there is no point in buying Ryzen at any level below 1700X/1800X.
Who told you that? The Ryzen 5 1600 is literally the same chip with a pair of cores disabled. Crank it up and the single thread performance will be the same as a 1800X at the same clock speed.

It is nowhere near as powerful as a 1080ti
It could outperform a 1070 if the devs bother to properly optimize for it

But for most games, a overclocked GTX1060 or a RX580 will match the XBONE X

>>380601184
>Ryzen 5 1600
kek'd

>CPU cooler
no comment.

>ASRock mobo
Enjoy your cardboard motherboard. ASRock is hot garbage.

>RAM
Or you could spend like another $10-30 and get equivalent Kingston.

>SanDisk
Or you could get Samsung and not have to worry about whether or not your SSD is going to fail within the first few days of running.

>WD
Always good.

>1080
At that point, I may as well spend another $200 to get the Ti and be futureproofed for generations.

>Phanteks
Meme case.

>Bronze
>damn near double the rated wattage
For what purpose.

>that resolution
>60fps
??? Why not aim for 144hz at that point.

>>380601608
I'm talking on the software end, drivers, etc.

Why buy the one with the cores disabled? There is no reason other than being a poor bastard.

>>380596504
Putting in a different CPU would be a mess for compability
Shrinking and overclocking the jaguar chip was the right decision
Consoles really don't need that powerful CPUs anymore

>>380592776
720p@144 would be better than 4k@ at sub 30 fps

>>380601897
It's not even in that range, the CPU is still garbage. Just because it runs games at "4k" doesn't mean it's as good as a 1070. Most console games just use low-mid settings especially for draw distance, shadows, texture filtering etc.

>>380601914
>buying intel lavalake
>not buying asrock boards (cheap and solid boards)
>buying kingston
>muh futureproofing
>144Hz meme

>>>/reddit/

>>380601914
>I'm talking on the software end, drivers, etc.
AMD's only driver advantage is on GNU/Linux where you can use the far superior open source stack.
Its actually at the point now where games advertise support for the open source stack, and the official driver has to play catch up later with worse performance.

>Why buy the one with the cores disabled? There is no reason other than being a poor bastard.
Diminishing returns, you get way better bang for the buck with a 6 core / 12 thread part that has the same single thread performance for $200 as the $500 8 thread / 16 thread part.
You're better off spending the difference on the GPU and monitor.

>>380592008
650 is nothing for a pc

>>380601914
>ASRock is hot garbage.
Wrong. Their Ryzen boards are some of the best in the industry.

>>380595268
>>380595825
>>380602190
>implying anything over 30fps is needed for anything other then competitive games.
This 60fps+ master race thing is a meme. Please fuck off so i can play my 4k games at 40fps on ultra in peace.

>>380592008
>How did Microsoft manage to make the X Box one X ($500) out perform a 1080 ti
they didn't

>>380596968
>and will get crossplay with xbone
Source? Because if that's true then why would anyone on the xbox play?

>>380602791
You don't have to be a peacock to think 60fps is better. Dark souls 2 was 60 on ps4 and dark souls 3 and blood borne being 30 feel a lot worse

>>380596349
>A game literally no one cared about until it was canceled
/v/ in a nutshell

>>380603161
>Implying people care
It's just shitposting

Okay cucks, I made a new build around the same price.

Is this "better" :^)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RnXhwV

>>380603710
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RnXhwV

Spending way too much on the motherboard for no apparent reason.
Ryzen performance scales much more with faster memory than other architectures. You want DDR4 3000 at a minimum.

>>380592008
They didn't.

>>380592008
It didnt, the Xbox one X does not run games at 4k aka 3840 × 2160 it just offscales from 1080.

>>380604310
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hMm77h

There. The CROSSHERO I'll upgrade too later. A different cooler + memory I'll upgrade too later as well, but otherwise, this is as good as it's going to get price wise. Although I may end up upgrading to the 1800X just for general proofing. If Ryzen is all that much better than Intel.

>>380592008
>outperforming a 1080 ti
Cute.

>>380604874
I'd honestly wait a few months for the next socket change and graphics bump and get twice the performance for that price.

>>380607065
>id honestly wait a few months for the next socket change
Ryzen isn't gonna be changing sockets, so why.

>graphics bump
What do you even mean by this?

>>380604874
>1600$

Now make one that costs 500$ and is as powerful as the Xbox One x.

>>380607347
Volta and icelake.

>>380607636
>Nvidia shit and Intel
>dude! go for Ryzen xD but also wait for intel to change sockets xDD

???

Also I've already said, I'm not using Nvidia.

>>380607842
Also Icelake isn't even coming out till 2019, retard.

Why is everyone just assuming this thing is going to run well? Don't be surprised by stuttering and frame dipping gameplay

>>380592008
No. Eventually hardware creep will render the One X obsolete forcing Microsoft to release another MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVER (what? You bought the One S and One X? Those are LITTLE BITCHES compared to the One XX!)

Console makers trying to keep up with PC power is a dumb idea.

>>380607842
>>380607935
Even more to this, why VOLTA? It's literally just GPU arch designed for AI, not gaming.

>>380604874
you are a retard, that's really all I can say
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6dJQV
this machine will outperform the one you posted by at least 50%

>>380592008
They didnt

>>380607542
The Ryzen+Vega SOC that will make that easily doable isn't out yet, but then again neither is the Scorpio.
Console hardware only looks good before release.

>>380597304
>$1700 for a PC
>People actually do this
Wew lad for that much money i could get a PC that runs most games on high and all 3 consoles and still have some cash left over

>>380600609
PS4 Pro can also do native 4k. Wipeout Omega Collection does it if you disable motion blur, at 60fps with zero drops

>>380608943
>can do native 4k
EVERYTHING with an HDMI 2.0 or Displayport 1.2 port can """""""""""""""""do""""""""""""""""""" 4k. an rx470 can play dota 2 at 4k

>>380593992
>cross play was confirmed as not happening
>"we wouldn't xbox one x to have an advantage!"

Keep telling yourself that. Microsoft clearly lied about what it could do. Hell the processor is a piece of shit.

>>380608553
>Same CPU

>CPU Cooler
I tbqh, don't know CPU cooler manu's at all, so no comment.

>shitty budget MSI motherboard
>Micro ATX
At least it's better than a ASRock.

>G.Skills
Again, Kingston is better.

>WD
Again, always good.

>MSI 1070
>Nvidia shit
lol'd

>Micro ATX case
I want a desktop, not a laptop.

>being cheap on your PSU
:^)

The only thing that "outperforms" my build is the GPU. But again, I don't use Nvidia shit, sorry cuck. :^)

>>380608780
Unlike you, I want to play at the highest settings consistently at 60 FPS.

>>380609063
Did you even read the rest of my post
The ps4 pro doesn't just theoretically support it because it uses hdmi, it can actually run games at native 4k 60fps

>>380593992
>Xbox One X
That shit will never not look hilarious

>>380609109
>Unlike you, I want to play at the highest settings consistently at 60 FPS.
If you're running all your games on ultra then yeah you'll need a little more muscle. If you just want high settings then you can get what you need for $700-$850

>>380609109
>Nvidia shit
>lol'd
there are no AMD GPUs as powerful as the 1070, and the ones that come close cost $400 or more aftermarket.
>he thinks that microatx is small
>getting a modular 80+ bronze is cheaping out on the CPU
>MUH BRAND
I got the cheapest spec for the price. MSI Mobos are perfectly fine and g.skill ram is great as well

it is a fact that my build posted up against yours will outperform in literally every single game by a significant amount
>>380609206
did you even read my post you dumb stupid nigger?

if you play older games of course 4k 60fps is easily within reach. a $400 PC build can play budget PC games at 4k too

>>380609109
>Anything other than a 1070
Nigger Vega isn't even out yet and and are always blown the fuck out, the only thing they compete on is price.

>>380609109
>Unlike you, I want to play at the highest settings consistently at 60 FPS.
that's not going to happen with a 580 on anything higher than 1080p

>tfw I own a PC for most of my games and a PS4 Slim for the ones i can't play on PC
Shit is comfy

the XboneX doesn't even come close to a 1080 ti you delusional faggot.

>>380609805
This. It's the best of both worlds. PC will always be superior but the PS4 is great for its exclusives.

>>380609934
Anon Microsoft fanboys are a combination of delusional and ignorant. They shovel whatever shit Microsoft gives them. Hence why they insult there customer base constantly and don't expect any repercussions.

>>380609969
>>380609805
mfw want a ps4 pro for the few games I'd enjoy on it but I need the xbone for 4k blu ray
fuck you sony for cheaping out on us

>>380609805
I bit the bullet and bought one of the Gold slims since they were on sale this week because I really want to play Gran Turismo, Persona, and most importantly the Wipeout Collection.

Also thanks Microsoft for putting current and future Forza titles on PC so i never have to buy an Xbox

>>380610140
The Pro is a meme anyway.

>>380609352
You're right, I could go much lower and still get something relatively alright. But I'm going from a 6850/i7-2300. So I wanna beat it by a few miles.

>>380609483
>there are no AMD GPUs as powerful as the 1070, and the ones that come close cost $400 or more aftermarket.
It doesn't matter if no AMD card compares right now. We have VEGA coming soon, and it'll compare to the 1070/1080.

It's called brand loyalty my friend.

>he doesnt think that micro atx is small
Micro ATX is small, the fuck are you even smoking.

>PSU
Gold performs better in the long run, and SeaSonic is miles ahead of Corsair.

>MSI mobos are perfectly fine
Sure if you want an okay budget computer. Mine however is not meant to be a poorfag computer, neither is it suppose to be a richfag one either.

As for the ram, Kingston has better performance.

http://ram.userbenchmark.com/Compare/HyperX-Fury-DDR4-2666-C15-2x4GB-vs-GSKILL-Ripjaws-V-DDR4-2400-C15-2x8GB/3556vs3549 Here is a random example.

>in literally every single game by a significant amount
Literally only because of the GPU retard, that's the only thing majorly different.

>>380609664
>that's not going to happen.
And that's what crossfire is for, retard.

>BUT FOR THE SAME PRICE YOU COULD GET A SINGLE BETTER GPU
Yeah if I wanted to use Nvidia shit.

>>380610556
And since you're going to nitpick the 2666 2x4 vs 2400 2x8... http://ram.userbenchmark.com/Compare/HyperX-Fury-DDR4-2400-C15-2x8GB-vs-GSKILL-Ripjaws-V-DDR4-2400-C15-2x8GB/3587vs3549

>>380609805
>Consoles come out
>They're big chunky monstrosities with no games and high price tags
>Stick with PC
>Wait for the price cuts and redesigns
>Wait a little more for the games
>Scoop one up when they have a promotion
Like clockwork

>>380596113
Unlimited power!

>>380610556
>http://ram.userbenchmark.com/Compare/HyperX-Fury-DDR4-2666-C15-2x4GB-vs-GSKILL-Ripjaws-V-DDR4-2400-C15-2x8GB/3556vs3549

>2666 is faster than 2400
Stop the presses!

Besides you really want 3000 at the minimum. Ryzen game performance scales pretty much linearly with faster memory unlike Intel chips.

>>380609934
They think "4k" equals "4k at ultra settings"
Most of the time consoles run at low-mid settings it's not really hard to get that to run at 4k or fake 4k

>>380596125
EVERY. SINGLE. LEAF. IS DYNAMICALLY GENERATED.
ITS THE FUCKING FUTURE

>>380610940
Look at >>380610732

Same speed. And Kingston is still better in performance.

And obviously for the 3k, but user benchmark doesn't have the ones necessary for comparison.

>>380593075
Hopefully now some of those bullshit resource eating post-fx will be turned off on consoles.

>>380592008
>settings on low-mid and 1440p upscaled to 4k at 30fps is the same as 1080ti
Nah, my 1060 can do that with native 4k, or 1080p at 60fps and high settings.

I've got a 770 and an fx4100 overclocked to the moon. Should I upgrade /v/? are the consoles more superior to me?

>>380611517
You're on par with the normal consoles, except for the cpu. Just pick up a 8350 from the bargain bin if you don't want to change your mobo.

>>380602791
>not playing competitive games

casual detected. how is barbie's ultimate adventure RPG going for you?

>>380610457
it's not, I couldn't imagine playing something like uncharted 4 at only 1080p

>>380610813
patrician right here ITT

>>380599006
Pretty much, it was pathetic fake 4K when Horizon did it but now that Xbox One X games do it, they're just being smart and efficient. Days Gone also checkerboards to 4K, as does God of War. Will be interesting seeing how Xbox One X multiplats stack up to the high-budget first party titles on PS4 Pro running at the same resolution.

>>380610140
Anon you do realize you can buy a 4K blu Ray for like 90 bucks. Why would you spend 500 for that? Don't say exclusives because the xbone x doesn't have any.

>>380613098
Nah, it's still shit, they're both the same shit.

>>380613516
4k blu ray players cost close to $199, which is more than I paid for for my xbox one s

>>380610457
The only people that say that either don't have one or never played a game on it.

>>380593509
Reminder that destiny is the only multiplayer shooter that doesnt run at 60 on console

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>>380613594
>buying an Xbone s

For what?! It has nothing.

>>380592008
Sold at a loss.

>>380597657
Bungie are literally the only ones who cant manage to get 60 on consoles. This is on them.

>>380592341
So... you're either saying Forza 7 was running on low, or my 1060 can do 4k60.

>>380613975
for what purpose? It has nothing that won't run on the much cheaper Xbox One S and they don't get to charge X owners more for Xbox Live or games... Why not just make the Xbox One S even cheaper to increase games / service revenue?

>xbox one x
who came up with this gay ass name?

>>380613936
you literally cannot read more than two posts in a reply chain. seen help.

>>380599006
This.

>>380614202
I think at this point Microsoft thing irony will help them out.

>>380614287
>shilling for a company that insults its customers constantly

Nigga you need to seek help.

We saw the new Forza in 4k 60 fps. If Xbox One X can handle that game on 4k 60 fps what it can't handle? The Witcher 3 maybe?

>>380614806
Oh come on anon even the most brain dead retard could tell it wasn't running at 60fps. I saw several fps hitches.

>>380614183
Razor and blades model

>>380610813
This is something that people need to wise up to more. Releasing consoles with less than 1TB storage? Who thought that was a good idea? Not to mention the original Xbone was literally one of the ugliest consoles ever.

Also Nintendo doesn't do redesigns do they? I think the Wii was the only one to get one

>>380614971
It's also a closed circuit racing game. That's quite a bit easier to run at high res and high framerate than, say, an open world game like Anthem seems to be.

>>380614806
>comparing a fucking racing game to an open world.

>outperform

it s less powerful than a 1070 you fucktard

>>380592123
>In games from 2013 and sooner.
FTFY

Microshaft did what they knew they could beat everyone at and optimized the shit out of it. I'm surprised it took them this long to do something like this given what Microsoft does besides Xbox.

>>380593509
>Destiny 2
>Basically a SonyBaloney title.
>Locked at 30FPS
Is anyone surprised?

>>380614783
put a 4k blu ray player in a playstation and I'll fucking buy one

Does anyone here plan to buy Xbox One X?

>>380614783
Can you read?
>Nigga
Nevermind

>>380617016
Not really. Microsoft is awful and makes zero first party games aside from the usual Halo/Gear/Forza

>>380617016
I might, I really love the design of the console. It will look lovely in the living room.

>>380615470
Wii U didn't get one only because of how poorly it did and they still had a ton of stock left to sell.
Switch will absolutely get a redesign. Every single one of their handhelds has gotten at least 1.

>>380592008
More like a 1060/480 but still breddy good.

I know you are just baiting but 500 bucks for that console is still impressive. If I didnt use my pc for anything other than gaming, I would consider a XxXbox1narutoXxX console. Too bad I use many professional applications on pc.

>>380620264
I'm considering g getting one next year just so I don't have to shit up a perfectly good gaming PC with win10.

I'm still using a voodoo 3

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That whole reveal, this was the only thing I could think of.

>>380592008
Dedicated SoC with APU.
Better memory bandwidth and managment.
Their OS is actually pretty great with separate kernels for dashboard and separate kernel attached to a game - this is what enabled Backward Compatibility.

Microsoft is suprisingly competent at techs like that. Well, Windows is full of bad architecture - but it is necessary to ensure maximum compatibility.

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>>380592008
>out perform a 1080 ti
AHAHAHHAHA

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>>380592008
>Is this the end of PC gaming?
Nope.

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>>380597657
the x1x cpu is shit and thats whats holding it back. look it up you dumb fuck