>AM2R died for this >Made by a studio that releases garbage

AMR2 was rehashed garbage

>>380589012
>baaah baaah nintendo why you don´t make more metroid
>here you go, a 2D game and a 3D game
>thank you based Nintendo! but I won´t give you money for that

Disgusting

>br doesn't want to pay for games
How surprising.

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>AMR2 died when it was finished
>Pirating just so the series can fucking die again

>>380589126
>>380589548
This

>>380589126
>Want good game
>Get shit one
>REE WHY AREN'T YOU BUYING IT

>>380589767
how do you know it's a shit game when you haven't played it?

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>>380589767
>Literally hasn't released yet
>AAAAAAQ IT'S SHIT BECAUSE THE COMPANY MADE ONE BAD GAME

I am actually really happy Metroid 2 has two extremely different high quality remakes.
There is no reason AM2R and Samus Returns can't coexist.

>>380589012
>>On a last generation handheld

Switch fag detected. Stay mad.

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>>380589012
>wanting to the series to be dead again out of spite

>>380590336
Metroidfags don't deserve new games.

>>380590560
This. Name a more entitled group

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>>380590560
I agree, but only because most Metroid games are too good for this world.

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>>380590560
>wanting there to be less good games in the world because of some people that had (admittedly justified) complaints
People like you are why we can't have nice things

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>>380590560
this unironically
>want new games
>shitpost constantly about getting new games
>get a new prime and a new 2d metroid
>REEEE ITS JUST A JPEG AND A GAME MADE BY A COMPANY NOBODY HAS FUCKING HEARD OF
>get an hour of gameplay from treehouse that looks good and the game plays solidly
>ITLL BE SHIT REE FUCK 3DS
i hope they never make another metroid game

>>380589012
>wahh this game is shit
>still gonna play it tho
Kill yourself

>literally falling for this shitty obvious bait
antimetroidfags are so dumb

I can't get excited for this game, not after what mercurysteam did to castlevania.

I'll definitely see what the consensus is when it comes out and try a demo if there is one though.

Why does /v/ suddenly hate Metroid? It can't solely be because Ridleyfags where obnoxious during Smash 4, right?

>>380590852
>that had (admittedly justified) complaints
They will fucking find any god damn thing to complain about, justified or no. And in this case, after seeing gameplay footage, their complaints really aren't justified.

>>380589012
YES, PIRATE IT SO THE 2D MEME WILL DIE

>people posting in an obvious bait thread

>>380589012
Stop falseflagging
STOP
WITH
THE
FALSE
FLAGS
Stop.
Stop it. Stop with the false flags.
Is your life REALLY that boring? Seriously? Just go out and eat ice cream with your friends or something. The weather is awesome. Come on Lad.
Yeah, we get it
>"xd metroid fans are never happy xd"

we LITERALLY could NOT bee happier right now. And THEN you have 70iq MONKEYS like>>380589126
Jumping straight into your EPIC trap. I seriously hope you get shit on by a bird on an important date

>>380589012
>On a last generation handheld
But it's on the 3DS, though?

>>380591139

They have to pay for it

>>380589012
they worked on the original Lords Of Shadow which is my favorite character action game, so it's all good by me.

This is Metroid's last fucking chance

Don't you get it

There are two timelines from this point okay

>Metroid Prime 4 & RoS sell really well
>maybe not breaking any records but enough to update Samus' fucking look and moveset in Smash 5
>Metroid Prime 5 comes out in 2020
>Super Metroid glorious remake reaches the peak of Metroidvania perfection in 2021

>They sell like shit
>Metroid Prime Federation Force 2 tentatively released in 2030
>20 years later after the fall of society, the last human ekes out a living on in ruined city. Out of food, very ill and tired, he breaks into one last building.
>It's a Gamestop with its entire stock of Federation Force 2 unsold lining the walls of his tomb.

>>380590920
Yeah, welcome to 4chan and vocal minorities. Everyone else is pretty happy.

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>>380591149
>>380590920
>Falling for obvious falseflags
Actual Metroid fans are extremely happy with what we got. I would have liked more from Prime 4 but I'm glad it got announced period

>>380589012
>>On a last generation handheld

3DS is still the best handheld in the world

inb4 the Switch is handheld because I say so!11!

>>380590648
PC gamers in general.

>We deserve ports of console exclusives
>We deserve to have the best version of all games ever made
>We deserve to have it all for free

>>380591321
I hope we get the 2nd timeline. Nintendo has already pissed all over this franchise. Just let it die.

>>380590648
Hetcis White Males

>>380590920
>Youtube vids for MP4 and Samus Returns are getting mostly thumbs up, unlike Federation Force
>"Fucking Metroidfags, always whining."

>>380589984
This a thousand times over

>>380591379
it's so obvious that i think they are samefagging. I refuse to believe someone SO stupid can use a computer.

>>380590560
>>380590648
Halo fans.

>>380589012
>AM2R died

nigger i just downloaded it last night. how did it die if people can still acquire and play it?

I personally will be pirating it solely for the treatment Nintendo has given Metroid in the past. Fuck them

>>380591274
What is there to pay for? They already got btfo.

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>>380591245
>The weather is awesome
Lies

>>380591552
3/10
without the "Fuck them" at the end, it would be a 4/10.
Your bait does have potential though.

>>380591552
Pathetic worm

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>>380591552
>Nintendo wants to make amends to Metroidfans
>Be a little bitch and don't take it

>>380591609

No they literally have to pay to play the game instead of getting a free fan made one.

That's their problem.

>>380591552
>I'm going to respond to the poor treatment by justifying the poor treatment
Nintendo neglected Metroid because it didn't sell as well as the other big hitters, despite its devoted following. Zelda is a system seller, but Metroid isn't. You not buying it will just show Nintendo that they were right in not supporting Metroid.

Do I have to explain why Mercury Steam made bad games recently in every thread?

MS did LOS 1, it's a great game nobody likes because muh castlevania, not muh lore.

MOF and LOS2 are "shit" because they had a lot of internal problems at the time. Konami probably let them do their games freely because LOS1 had good reviews. The producer/director (can't remember) was a pain in the ass and it's because of him that the sequels are mediocre at best. The guy fucked what would have been pretty projects, just like what Dead Space 3 should have been. MOF and LOS are acceptable in quality but very forgettable and flawed as fuck.

Mercurysteam is full of talented artists and passionate about video games. Nintendo knows that Metroid fans want a good for a decade now and they can't fuck this up this time. I'm sure that Nintendo watched over them just like they did with the team behind Luigi's Mansion 2. You can already see in the demo that it has nothing to do with MOF in terms of quality...

But if you just want to troll the game because "huurrr Mercury steam did bad games I haven't played" do it guys.

>>380591663
go work on your tan, you pasty bitch

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>>380589012
Keep crying. I love seeing your pain.

>>380591663
Madrid - spain

?

>>380589126
this

>>380589217
Wait how do you know that i'm a br?

I'm gonna buy a physical copy but also download it on Freeshop because it's convenient not having to take a card out of the box. I'm such a dork lol

>>380591791
you

>summer /v/ is this fucking retarded
sure smells of reddit in here

>AM2R died

No it fucking didn't, retard.
It was released to the public and can STILL be found with a simple google search.

>>380591791
---?---*

>>380591742
Nigga it's on the 3ds. They don't have to pay for anything.

>>380591881
"You" what? Was i right?

>>380591883

>He believes in summer /v/
>Then complains about Reddit

Wew lad.

>>380591695
I can't help it. False flagging Metroid threads is like a drug to me

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>>380591321
>Gamestop
>living into 2030

>>380591776
I certainly won't judge the game by their track record but I won't preorder it either.

I'll wait and see what it is like, like what everyone should do for every game ever.

If it sucks on release then there is no helping them (MS).

>>380591423
We do deserve it tho

>>380591805
We can smell you from all the way over here. Go take a fucking shower, even the liquid shit that passes for water in your country can only be an improvement, you fucking monkey.

P.S.: Your language sounds like a french faggot is trying to speak broken spanish while choking on a dozen dicks.

>>380589012
>AM2R died for this
it didn't,you can still find it with a simple google search
>Made by a studio that releases garbage
so what ? a lot of gameplay has been shown at treehouse,if you don't like what you saw then don't buy it
>On a last generation handheld
not a point

>impressions are that it's fantastic
>brings new additions to the core game so that it's not just a stale retread of Metroid 2
>AM2Rfags are literally just salty as fuck that they have NO reason to hate Nintendo now because there's a legitimately perfect reason they shut down the Fatneck made game

>>380591978
newfag spotted
r/eddit is more your speed faggot

>>380591714
>Nintendo wants to make amends...
>by consistently releasing recycled games with worse gameplay, worse graphics, and worse narratives than their competition
>Now with $20-$120 DLC packs
>Paid Online for a Squid Shooter and a port
>Underpowered hardware for the nth generation

Nintendo is making amends to themselves for not joining SE and EA sooner in the "Worst Companies To Ever Exist" rodeo.

>>380590560
Not real metroidfags. Any real metroid fan is hyped as fuck after 10 years without games.

>>380592116
Have a (you) ?
If you agree with someone on 4chan, you either reply with "This" or just mark his post like >>380592116
and don't say anything. Tespa.

People saying they'll pirate were literally never gonna buy it anyway

They just do it for attention

Only Metroid games I played were Fusion and Zero Mission last year and I plan on picking this up because those impressed me even though I have a custom firmware 3DS

>>380592206
This is a falseflag. Us true Metroid fans don't accept shit from nintendo anymore and are cautious about the negatives

>>380589012
>>AM2R died for this
But you can easily get it
>>Made by a studio that releases garbage
Are you ignoring that they showed like 1 hour of live gameplay and that it seems fantastic?
>>On a last generation handheld
Which makes it for a safer bet since developing a game for that is easier than ever

I was afraid that Mercury Steam was behind it but after que treehouse show there is little reason to think that it'll be bad.
It's time to celebrate it you bitch nigga

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>>380592371
>us true fans of Nintendo games don't like Nintendo

>>380592126
The only new iterations of nintendo games that had worse gameplay than their predecessors that i can think of are Smash bros and 3D mario games. What else did they overcasualize? Or are you implying that BotW has worse gameplay than Horizon?
>paid online
yes, that sucks. it is less than 30 dollars per year, iirc 25 or 20. But it shouldn't be there in the first place. Hopefully this means that they improved the online experience though.

>Underpowered hardware for the nth generation
that also sucks and is very very true. I can't stop thinking about how much better breath of the wild would look if it was running on a ps4.

Oh boy I sure am excited for Metroid: other m for 3ds made by sakamoto and a literal who company

>>380591426
so you're a whiny babby, got it

>>380592206
This... In a few days, /v/ showed the worst fans, Monster hunter fags, Metroid Fags and in this thread the castlevania fags

Those guys want new games, but refuse a single change in their games.

"We want Metroid !"
>MP4 announced
"b-but I wanted 2D"
>Return of Samus Announced
"B-but Mercury Steam"

"We want MH !"
>MH XX announced
"B-but I want it on PS4/One "
>MHW
"B-but NOT MUH PS2 asset MH loading fest"

"We want Castlevania !"
>LOS announced
"B-but it's not a game made by my favorite japanese cowboy and it's not a cheap as fuck Metroidvania (don't get me wrong I like the later Metroidvania but you have to admit that those are not very big project and are kind of cheap)"

If you like something, you should be open to change, give it a chance... I'm a big Metroid and MH fan and I couldn't be happier this E3. I want to see what MH could be as a modernized game.

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>>380592371
Yeah all three of you "true" Metroid fans.
I bet you're one of those retards that thought Metroid was dead because it didn't get a game on the Wii U.

>>380590648
Motherfags

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>>380589012
The game looks great to me, the only thing I dislike are the 3D visuals, I love me my pure 2D games as opposed to 2.5D shit. I am worried about 1 thing though, you have more precision with aiming which is fine but so far I haven't seen gameplay of Samus moving and being able to aim at an angle to shoot, maybe I've missed it but the Demonstration kept having her stand still to aim & shoot.

I don't see why people are shitting this hard on it though, I can understand being worried due to the team that's working on it but being this negative toward it is way too strong of a response to it, it's not Other M or Federation Force so far for sure and Prime 4 is coming also so everyone is getting what they want. By the way, I love AM2R but it was practically finished, we only needed those updates at this point but it was a full game still at the end of the day.

>>380589126
You just described literally every single Metroid fan ever.

>>380589012
>didn't watch the treehouse steam
it looks great. they showed like an hour of gameplay

>>380593114
Why must you lie anon?

>>380592886
The people who complain about World didn't want it on PS4, that's why they false foage as sonyfags and talk shit about the game hecause they can't play it on their fisher price tablet

>>380589012
Id buy the amiibos

>>380592594
In terms of combat? I'd say Horizon and BotW are pretty similar, both in mechanics and overall execution.

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Mercury Steam is developing it. It's going to fucking suck.

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>>380593114
>>380589126
Zero Mission sold 1 million
Fusion sold 1.08 million
Prime sold 1.5 million
Prime 2 sold 1 million
Prime 3 sold 1.3 million
Prime Hunters sold 800K

Nintendo is fucking weird. They let Intelligent Systems churn out 12 fucking FE games and as the series started to decline they gave them the lowest fucking number of 250K sales for the next game or they would dump FE. Why did they let FE get away with such low expectations after having MULTIPLE games fail to reach sales projections yet the Metroid series was doing 4-5x as much as that and it was dormant for 7 fucking years?

>>380594086
>multiple video game outlets have played the demo and have had positive impressions for it
>35 minutes of gameplay footage readily available to you that looks solid
>reaction image from facebook

LOL

>>380594273
Fire Emblem is probably pretty cheap to produce.
And one thing that people often forget is that Nintendo doesn't have an unlimited amount of development teams and that a lot of times they only make games if they have someone high up who is interested in making them. Like we get a ton of Kirby games because Sakurai likes them, but there's nobody at Nintendo who was interested in bringing back Metroid. Pretty sure Sakamoto literally said he didn't want to make another Metroid game and would rather continue making Tomodachi Life.

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>>380594489
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MercurySteam

Yeah look at all those quality games! Hey, ever heard of Metroidvania? Well look what they did with castlevania, and on the 3DS! Yeah, they're a fucking shit developer. It explains the weird scripted sequences shown in the trailer and the gameplay presentation. It's a mediocre developer and they're going to make a mediocre Metroid. They haven't made a single high quality game yet, you really think they're going to do Metroid justice after what they did to Castlevania? LOL

>>380594657
>>380594086
I'm really getting the urge to create a facebook account to see who's face is behind these posts.

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I saw someone mention AM2R had been updated by other people since the dev isn't able to work on it anymore, but I couldn't find anything about that in the forums. Is it true? 1.1 isn't the latest version?

>>380594086
>>380594657
you know what ? fine,go fucking pirate it and shut the fuck up

but then don't come here and complain that metroid is dead again if it happens

>>380594787
>>380594942
>replaying to bait

will /v/ ever learn?

>>380589861
Pirates always have to find some retarded reason to justify their decision, so they don't *feel* like criminals

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>>380594942
LMAO Metroid Prime 4 will probably be good but Mercury Steam is one of the worst devs out there, look at their sales/metacritic/fan reception. They should have had Nintendo develop this instead of some F-rate studio from Spain

Honestly, I hope nintendo never makes a metroid game again. you get 2 new games after a decade of bitching and you faggots are still bitching.

>>380589012
I'm very happy about getting 2 games and I will probably buy a 3ds and a switch to get them both
Even if they suck by supporting this franchise I might get more metroid games

>>380595237
Avatarfagging is against the rules

The game is made by Nintendo, they're just remaking it, you retard. Nintendo has been overseeing it, too

>>380589012
Nintendo could have shut AM2R down at any time. They were actually cool about it and let him release a finalized version. You think they just happened to stumble upon it after it was done? They knew about that shit for a long time.

>>380595237
it doesn't matter that they are one of the worst developers ever,what matters is the fact that half hour gameplay of 2D metroid has been shown at treehouse,if that is not enough for you to choose if you want to buy or not then wait for reviews

>>380594273
The directors still were churning out ideas at IS.
Sakamoto has been making Fed.Force since the DS era.

>>380594489
>>multiple video game outlets have played the demo and have had positive impressions for it
>game journalists
>having opinions that matter


now I know you're a marketer

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>>380595237
FEposting should be a bannable offense.
FE is the Persona of Nintendo. A shitty series nobody gave a single fuck about until they forced waifu pandering and then it got shoved into everyone's faces.

>>380590648
Megaman fans.
>more games than the whole CoD series
>loads of recent games
>kickstarted a fucking hack TWICE

>>380595852
Ninteniggers never know when to stop getting triggered. I say this as an old Metroid fan. Mercury is an absolute garbage dev, they couldn't have chose a worse one.

>>380595852
>trust the opinion of people who've played the game as well as 35 minutes of footage up on youtube
>LOL MARKETER


What should I fucking do then? Listen to /v/ posters proclaiming its shit even though they havent fucking played it?

>>380589767
Nintendo in a nutshell.

>Hey guys here's a new [X beloved franchise] game you've been asking for!
>This is complete garbage I'm not buying this.
>OH OKAY I GUESS PEOPLE DON'T WANT NEW [X franchise] GAMES ANYMORE =)

>>380595994
Or just look at the developer's track record. They have 15 years of making mediocre games with F averages and dismal sales/reception

>>380596049
That doesn't make sense.
Nobody fucking liked Fed Force yet were getting two games.

>>380596096
There is literally 35 minutes of gameplay up on YouTube that looks solid why would I need to do that?

This isn't the case of them dropping some cut together trailer and revealing the developer in the span of 1 minute there's a half hour of footage up.

>>380596049
pretty much this

if a franchise that hasn't received good games for years finally gets some but their fans aren't willing to buy them because "it's made by a shit company" then nintendo will see the no buy = no interest and decide to kill the franchise once again


if you are a metroid fan and don't want to see the series dye then buy samus returns,no it doesn't matter that is made by a shitty company,it doesn't matter that the game cost 40 dollars while a fan game was free,it doesn't matter that it's on 3ds,just buy for the sake of seeing the metroid franchise not die yet again

>>380596396
That's not the message to take away from that, no.

>>380590648
Sonic fans

>>380596096
Castlevania fans are as hard to please as Metroid fans so their opinions hardly matter.
I'll wait until I play the eventual demo then I'll judge it.

>haha! I don't have to buy your remake there's a fan remake right here for free!
>NO WAIT WHY ARE YOU SHUTTING DOWN THE FAN REMAKE THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!

>>380596454
so what's the message that needs to take away from ?

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>>380596396
>buy samus returns,no it doesn't matter that is made by a shitty company

>>380596461
That implies SEGA hasn't treated them like absolute shit.

>>380596462
Their first Castlevania game was actually well received by basically everyone but Castlevania fans who complained that it wasn't a Castlevania game.
Which it wasn't, but that's not relevant to the quality of that game or this Metroid game, especially considering this game looks a LOT like a Metroid game.

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>it's a '/v/ pretends the metroid fandom is the only fandom that complains about games' episode
Have you already forgotten the holy trinity of cancerous fandom's?

>>380596549
There's no winning with Nintendo.

>>380589012
No it didn't. You can play AM2R right now

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If shit like this can be pulled off in it then instant buy

>>380591302
This. Great studio, they just need proper direction, which they now have via Nintendo

Looks good to me but i can't preorder yet.

>>380596603
>here have fun game
Bwah it's not 2d
>here have 2d fun game
Bwah it's not 3d and 2d
>here have 3d and 2d game
Bwah it's not adventure 3d

>>380596756
so no matter what you do it's always nintendo that decides ?

so like even if a franchise sells thousand of copies nintendo but still decide to kill it off ?

>>380589861
Mercury Steam.

>>380596898
>so no matter what you do it's always nintendo that decides ?
Yup.

This is the company that kept Fire Emblem on life support for two decades because it's their pet franchise while throwing their popular IPs into the back of the cupboard to promote shit like Paper Mario Sticker Star and amiibo Crossing.

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>>380596549
>Fans ask for a game
>release garbage
>Fans say it's shit
>somehow means they don't want the game
That it's shit, and they should do a better job. All they can do is vote with their wallets and say they don't want it that way. It's not our fault nintendo doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. It looks literal Other M teir, but more cartoony.

>>380590648
all of /v/

>>380597168
BAIT

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>>380596878
As an actual Sonic fag I am pretty hyped for Mania and Forces though I do totally understand the hate. They both rely heavily on nostalgia pandering, (most of which isn't even really good nostalgia pandering at that) and it make Sonic Team look like they still aren't confident enough to sell a game on it's own merits, which is a big problem. I just hope that if these games sell well and get enough praise that Sonic Team will become confident enough not to use Green Hill for the millionth fucking time.

>>380597168
You know what? FUCK YOU /v/. I'm fucking pulling my hair out right now and rocking back and forth im so fucking pissed off reading this thread. Fuck all of you. If you don't support Metroid I'll buy 500 copies myself. If we don't buy more than one copy each you might as well kiss the franchise good bye.

>Just buy whatever Nintendo smears the Metroid name on
Jesus you guys sound like some abused spouse.

>>380597168
>vote your wallet

if this would have been a bigger franchise like mario or zelda it would have been okay,but it's not okay for metroid

metroid can't afford the "speak with your wallet" luxury right now,it's just got back from the dead and as of right now even the smallest failure can mean another hiatus

if metroid was a more succesful franchise to the point where you are 100% sure that even if a game ends up being shit they will still keep making more then it would have been ok to not buy samus returns

but metroid doesn't have that type of secuirty,or at least not yet

>>380589012
>bitch that you have to pay for a M2 remake instead of getting a fan made remake
>there are people out there that will pirate this game to spite Nintendo over this
>both new Metroid will underperform sales wise and Nintendo will go back to not making Metroids

This is why we can't have nice things! People seriously, BUY THIS GAME. It's not like you can't return it or sell it if it turns out bad. If you don't buy this game why don't you just go to Nintendo twitter and say "I don't want Metroid" cause it's pretty much the same thing! Pirates can claim they aren't hurting gaming all they want but that's not true. Sales matter. I'm sorry, this pisses me off. We are finally getting what we want and to see people even thinking of pirating this just makes me upset.

Found the remastered soundtrack for AM2R and thought to post it here. Enjoy.

https://metroid2remake.blogspot.si/2016/09/soundtrack.html

>>380589126
It's always the same retarded thing :
>We want a new game !!
>Here is a new game !!
>It's shit because I say so !!
After, you have 2 possibilities :
>It's shit because it's not like the previous one.
>It's shit because it's too much like the previous one.
Repeat this until the end of time.

>>380591254
Switch is the current gen, but they're treating it like their previous home consoles. They should have stopped making 3ds games and merged the two libraries with the switch

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>>380597606
>the game sells poorly
>chance of actual good game later

>mecury steam's shit game sells well
>they continue raping the franchise and other franchise in the future

Why would I pay for some minor ip when I can get it for free?

>>380596724
this two scoops meme is going places

>>380598089
>the game sells poorly
>chance of actual good game later

sure,but there is also a chance that they decide to cancel the franchise yet again

what does guarantee to you will get more if this fails ?

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>>380598089
>Chance of good game later
But do you really want to take that chance?
And who's to say we won't get more different games?
Shit happened with AC and FE.

>>380598138
Because then it will die and we'll have one less game franchise.

>>380598386
I would rather they cancel the franchise entirely forever than get Metroid games consistently from Mercury Steam.

>>380598526
>inb4 muh CastleVania
Fuck off, MS is a good studio. They had shit director after LoS1 which is why LoS2 in particular was all over the fucking place.

With Nintendo's oversight, they'd be great. LoS1 was an objectively good game, presumably because Konami/Kojima had more of a hand in its direction.

>>380598526
>I would rather they cancel the franchise entirely forever than get Metroid games consistently from Mercury Steam.

if that's the case then will not stop you

just remember

>samus returns does well
>chance of getting shit games
>chance of getting good games

>samus returns sells poorly
>chances of getting a new shit/good
>chances of cancelling the franchise

the choice is yours

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I never played the Castlevania game so I'm not going to say Samus Returns because it'll "supposedly" be shit because it's being made by a company that made a "supposedly" shit Castlevania.
I'll judge the game on it's own fucking merits.
It also doesn't help that nobody has been even explained why the Castlevania games are shit.

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>>380589861

>>380598842
If I buy it and it's bad, that just encourages them to keep making Mercury Steam Memetroid games which is the opposite of what I want. I'll buy Metroid Prime 4 instead.

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>>380598905
>shit analogy
Never change /v/

>>380596396
>Nintendo hands Metroid off to a kusoge developer
>Buy the shitty new entry they make, Nintendo says good job MercurySteam, MS gets to keep making shitty Metroid games
>Don't buy the shitty new entry they make, Nintendo drops MS and doesn't make any more

The only winning move is to not be a Metroid fan.

>>380597525
>I'm fucking pulling my hair out right now and rocking back and forth im so fucking pissed off reading this thread.
Actual autism.

What's apparently so shit about Metroid 2: Samus Returns when we've barely seen anything of it?

>>380598404

chance of a good game or a certainty of a bad game

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>>380598815
>LoS1 was an objectively good game

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>>380598815
>LoS1 was an objectively good game

>>380599189
It's made by the lords of shadow devs

>>380599189
It's because it's being made by a dev that's apparently bad.

>>380599024
what if metroid prime 4 is also made by mercury steam ?
>>380599063
you are right,metroid can't be saved anymore,if samus return does well mercury steam will keep developing more shitty metroid games,if samus retuns does poorly they will just cancel the franchise,there is no victory
>>380599205
but also a chance of cancelling the franchise

>>380598898
See >>380598815

Only LoS2 was bad because of internal problems with the director. Mirror of Fate was fine. Nothing special, but not bad either. LoS1 was great. The only two complaints you see about it is that "it isn't CastleVania" or "It's just a God of War ripoff."

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>>380598815
HAHAHAHA, LoS1 being a good game. It's a God of War clone with a castlevania meme skin. They ruined Castlevania and now they're gonna meme Metroid. What else is Memecury Steam gonna fuck next?

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>SAMUS RETURNS WILL BE SHIT
>Why?
>BECAUSE MERCURYTEAM MADE A SHIT CASTLEVANIA GAME
>Why was it shit?
>UH... IT JUST WAS OKAY!?

>>380599524
Right on fucking cue, holy shit. Good job, anon. >>380599476

>>380589012
well I mean

they should not of tried to steal someone elses ip lol

Why does everyone just assume the game is going to be shit? At least wait to see if it's good before bitching

>>380599671
And? It's a good complaint. People expect a long running IP like Castlevania to feel like Castlevania. They literally made it a weird God of War knockoff without any metroidvania elements. It's a weak game in its ownright outside of that too.

>>380599476
>>380599671
It is a God of War ripoff, though. That's why people call it that. Would you claim that Lords of the Fallen being a shitty Souls ripoff isn't true?

>>380590560
Just compare the fan reaction fire emblem echoes got to this. Disgusting metroidbabies.

>>380591379
Yeah I'm pretty happy. I would have liked if the 2d one had a darker, more moody atmosphere, but hey, its finally a metroid game

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Forgive me as I'm not a Castlevania fan, but wasn't LoS that one 3d game on the Xbox or something? Because if so, would it really even be fair to compare the two?

>>380594865
anyone?

>>380599891
>>380599946
I never said it wasn't a God of War ripoff. Just that it's one of the two complaints you ever see about it. But at least it copied a decent series, and did it well. As for not feeling like CastleVania, that's subjective. I liked their version of the story. It was a nice change (minus just about everything in LoS2). I don't want the series to continue like that, but for a short run it was good.

>>380599975
Who the both responded fairly positively?
You know /v/ reaction is not a good indicator of all fans right? /v/ has the most stupidly cynical fans of any franchise.

>>380600169
Yes. And no, not really. The better comparison would be to Mirror of Fate, their 3DS metroidvania. It was fine, but ultimately forgettable.

>>380600282
> But at least it copied a decent series, and did it well.
No it didn't. That's the problem. GoW is only as successful as it is because it's actually a competent action game. Lords of Shadow is not, it's shallow and tedious with shitty level design.
> As for not feeling like CastleVania, that's subjective.
No, it's objective, given how it has fucking nothing to do with anything that makes Castlevania Castlevania, in classic or metroidvania forms.

>>380599524
>>380599891
Is it really that surprising to see a game from a series that's predominately 2d not feel exactly the same? Though? When has a 3D game ever felt like the 2D counterpart?

I liked the parry move from what we saw in the trailer. Just hope it feels good as a mechanic and that the game itself is good while also having exploration be a main aspect of the game.

>>380600860
Metroid Prime felt like the 2D ones in that you were backtracking with more abilities to uncover secrets and new zones, etc....Lord of Shadows doesn't compare to earlier Castlevanias like MP does to 2D metroid.

>>380600698
Not him, but even saying that, that complaint likely won't be valid for Samus Returns at all, as that actually looks like a Metroid game.

I really liked Lords of shadow 1 AND 2(yes i'm the one) but mirror of fate is shit, that's for certain.

As for samus returns, i'm not too worried, Nintendo always have strong supervision over their IPs and i doubt they will let Mercury steam do total shit.

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>>380589012
Metroid fans will never be happy

Nintendo should just have kept this franchise dead, you guys don't deserve these games

I was pretty worried after seeing the trailer and seeing that it was Mercury Steam, but the Treehouse gameplay looked much better to me and I'm more hopeful now. Either way it's the first 2D Metroid in 13 years and I'll be buying it no matter what.

>>380601186
Plenty of fans are happy though. But nice try.

>>380601186
Its only a few /v/ shitters. Most of us a very excited for both of the new games.

>>380591484
>>380596461
In all fairness, those two groups will never agree with themselves because the devs fuck with the formula all too often.

>>380597521
10/10 my sides

>>380601186

Basically this
>>380601241
>>380601264

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>>380596049
That sounds more like Capcom than Nintendo.

>>380601186
I have nothing to lose. If it's good I can enjoy a good game, if it's bad then I can enjoy roasting the game and its devs.

>>380592886

/v/ isn't one person and neither are metroid fans. it's like people here willingly forget that.

>>380601019
The fuck are you on about? No one is calling Samus Returns a God of War knock off, they're just saying it looks mediocre.

>>380601186
Word of advice: A handful of pissed-off /v/irgins who rely on mommy and daddy for support don't represent an entire fanbase.

>>380601736
How does it look mediocre when we've barely seen anything? What about it looks so mediocre?

>>380594273
Metroid doesn't perform well in Japan. Meanwhile, the Japanese eat up the waifubait in Fire Emblem, especially considering how much more lewd the games have been getting. Not that we would know, what with the magical barrier around Japan that prevents people from other countries seeing the games uncensored.

>>380601736
It actually looks great for a gameboy game remake

>>380601186

I'm more than happy. Though I still want a game that chronologically goes past Fusion.

>>380601736

From the 8 minute gameplay demo that ign posted, it looks fantastic. How does it not look like a classic Metroid game?

>>380601823
Nothing, and it looks great. It's just the usual /v/ contrarian bullshit.

>>380602394
It at least looks to be a better remake than Echoes.

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>>380601823
>How does it look mediocre when we've barely seen anything?
Did you miss the half hour of gameplay footage they showed immediately following the reveal trailer?
>What about it looks so mediocre?
The art style is ass for one, environments are heavy on bloom and colour filters rather than unique tilesets, and platforms being modelled instead of part of a tileset makes the breakable blocks stick out like a sore thumb, because those are just square tiles next to big 3D platforms. The melee counter looks horrendously overpowered, stunning standard enemies for at least 4 seconds (the longest we saw a stun last before the monster was killed), and resulting in equally long stuns along with the shitty cinematic camera in boss fights (which we saw in the alpha and zeta fights). In general it looks far too easy.
The other main issue is a point of comparison with AM2R, which looks far better visually, but also had far better boss fights. In the demo of Samus Returns we see boss fights with Arachnus, Alpha Metroids, and it ends with the Zeta Metroid. All of those had significantly better AI in AM2R and faster battles, along with AM2R constantly giving you interesting arenas to change up the otherwise dull Alpha fights, which SR didn't do. That Nintendo are failing to provide a better product than what some random Mexican made out of his basement is fucking embarrassing.

>>380601881
What an incredibly pointless metric.

>>380589012
>AM2R died for this
At least it was finished yeah there were planned updates but the core game was complete. I got 100% completion and thoroughly enjoyed it.

>>380589548
>A free fangame is pirating
Fuck off retard

>>380602569
>>A free fangame is pirating
You might be the retard here.

Keep in mind, Samus Returns is still being overseen by Nintendo. The reason why Retro's Nintendo games have been so great is not because Retro is some incredible developer, it's because they had Nintendo's guidance. Look at the dumpsterfire that is ReCore for proof of that. Anyone worried about what developer is handling the new Metroid games needs to chill; they're in perfectly capable hands.

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>>380602820
I never liked Prime though.

>>380602916
You are not the only person on the planet.

>>380590560
>>380590648
Metroidfags are horrible.

>>380599975
This. Gaiden was constantly trashed as the worst games in the franchise but FEfaggots still gave its remake a chance.

>>380589012
>>AM2R died for this
>died
But it was completed. Seriously.
This hate is unwarranted. We're getting 2 (TWO) Metroid games. And we just got AM2R.
It's an amazing time to be a Metroid fan finally. After so many years. It's finally great again!

Just enjoy them all.

>>380595203
Pirates aren't criminals.

The entire notion that something that can be copied for FREE with no effort or work value associated with it and distributed being WRONG is completely silliness. It's only "criminal" because it effects the pockets of rich people.

Do you want to be convicted and go to jail for growing your own tomatoes from the seeds you got?

How about that recipe for a sandwich you followed! You copied something already existing!

It's ludicrous. Next you'll want to take down libraries and tap water! Let's not forget education, you don't have any write to those ideas! You didn't make them or pay for them! You can't teach others either, you don't have the right!!!

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Samus Returns already has superior level design to the original and AM2R

But by all means, parrot that the fan game be better in the end with absolutely zero proof

>>380589126
even though we don't know much about Prime 4 except the dev team, Samus Returns looks lazy as fuck, fucking make a good 2d (not 2.5D XDXDX) game with good art and actually difficult

>>380599975
>>380603447
But people have been shitting on Echoes ever since it released.

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>>380603898
>The layout is totally different, that means it's better

>>380596834
forget about it
technichal limitations is what made SM so good

>>380604350

It's Metroid. The map is half of the entire fucking point. SR's map is less linear and feeds into and loops around itself more than the original and AM2R's ever did.

>>380604703
The map layout is not the level design, you fucking moron. You can have two lines of flat rooms with entirely different content in them. The map layout would be the same, while the level design is different.

>>380589012
>It's shit guys
>It's a shit game guys
>Can't wait to play it guys

>>380604935

>you can have two lines of flat rooms with entirely different content

Have

Have you played the original Metroid II?

It's a fine enough game but variety isn't exactly it's strong suit. And AM2R is extremely loyal to that.

Samus Returns already seems to be offering more variety and deeper combat.

>>380603447
>This. Gaiden was constantly trashed as the worst games in the franchise but FEfaggots still gave its remake a chance.

And the remake was mediocre.

>>380605212
>It's a fine enough game but variety isn't exactly it's strong suit. And AM2R is extremely loyal to that.
Yeah, sure. But you haven't offered shit to support SR having better level design, all you've done is pointed out that the map layout is different and said that makes the level design better. That's not a valid argument.
>Samus Returns already seems to be offering more variety and deeper combat.
Yeah, that melee counter is the peak of complexity.

>>380603761
lol at these mental gymnastics. You've made it. Go to the Olympics you silly fuck.

>>380603761
>something that can be copied for FREE with no effort or work value
You realize that the ORIGINAL that you copied actually did take effort, time, and money to create yeah? What entitles you to that for free?
>Do you want to be convicted and go to jail for growing your own tomatoes from the seeds you got?
GEE HOW DO YOU THINK SOMEONE GETS SEEDS I MEAN IT'S TOTALLY NOT BECAUSE THEY PAID FOR IT
>How about that recipe for a sandwich you followed! You copied something already existing!
The technology equivalent to this shit analogy would be open source software, which just about every game in existence is not.

>>380605342

I pointed out the map loops and feeds into itself with a much better flow than "go here now go here now go back the way you came". There are too many instances in Metroid 2 where you go one direction and then just have to walk backwards once you're done, and AM2R just keeps that the same. Whereas if you'll watch the treehouse demo SR has the more modern (as of Super Metroid) Metroid hallmark of having the attainment of new skills and powers lead into the opening of new paths and more convenient and quicker traversal

And it's not just the melee counter - there's also the Aieon system which rewards the player playing well and defeating enemies. AM2R meanwhile is loyal to a dated and clunky combat system and doesn't offer anything new. I'd even suggest it's inferior to Zero Mission and Fusion.

And I'm sorry, but what is wrong with the melee counter? It's simple, but new combat systems should be exactly that - intuitive and easy to understand. This is not a fighting game. You should not have to input elaborate combos for a Metroid game of all things.

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>this thread
why the fuck you guys have to be like this
we got two brand new games

>>380589012
>by a studio that releases garbage
Well it was about time for then to redeem thenselves
everyone loves a comeback story

>Last chance for Metroid to been seen as a worthy IP in Nintendo's eyes and not killed off
>/v/ the two games as shit and clamoring for piracy
I really hate you people.

>>380590648
>232 replies in
>nobody said smash meleefags/ridleyfags yet
>the former shits on every game for not being exactly the same and the latter actually thought a shadow with the label "boss characters" was proof of said shadow being playable

>>380601186
I don't understand how saying some criticism about Returns means that the series should die.

>>380589012
No one gives a shit.

>>380591484
Halo and Metroid fan here, couldn't agree more.

>>380589012
>There are shills in THIS VERY THREAD defending Jewtendo and bashing AM2R
The sweet tears of morons when they realize they got duped into buying a shitty Mirror of Fate clone is the only solace I have.

If you want a good metroid game go and play hollow knight.

>>380604703
60FPS is a stronger point.
Strong, viable movement options are a stronger point.
Guess what Nintendo's shitty remake doesn't have?

MercurySteam is only developing according to Nintendo's specifications. They don't have free reigns. The game looks and feels like Metroid should.

The only thing i'm not a fan of in this is the recycling of Metroid prime audio stingers and cues.

I love Prime, but those SFX just don't feel like they fit in the 2d space.

>>380589012
Fucking SAKAMOTO is on board for this "shitty remake", so please hang yourself. AM2R lived enough to release before disappearing, that's all we needed.

>>380594273
An action game like metroid, especially one that demands a high level of atmosphere, is gonna be a lot harder to produce than a quasi-virtunal novel RPG.

>>380610251
He was asked wether there was gonna be a lot of story, and he basically said no. I think the man learned his lesson.

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>>380602820
>other m was made by a good studio and overseen by sakomoto and it turned out bad
>this is made by a terrible studio and overseen by sakomoto and it will turn out good

I'm glad AM2R baby are still butthurt.
The new game looks better and I'll make sure to buy it.

>>380610795
Super, Fusion, Zero mission and the prime trilogy were overseen by fukumoto

>>380611074
*sakamoto
fuck

>sony announces remake at E3
>HAHAHA A FUCKING REMAKE SONYNYGGERS WILL DEFEND THIS
>nintendo announces 240p remake at E3
>OMG NINTENDO WON

>>380610915
t. Nintenshill

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>>380611709

>>380611181
There's a difference between remaking a game with the exact same control schemes (same pad) with only updated graphics

and

remaking a flawed 2D game that was released on a gameboy with only 3 buttons and a D-pad, which has already shown new moves, and upgraded boss battles.

Sony has shown a dumb upgrade of Crash, while Metroid 2 was unsalvageable as it was.

You should get new eyes anon.

>>380611883
>mmm I love that corporate cock

>>380591321
>Super Metroid glorious remake reaches the peak of Metroidvania perfection in 2021
Super Metroid is a perfect Metroid game as it is. It doesn't need a remake, especially the 2.5D treatment. It's aged well.

>>380590560
Why are there always non Metroid fans *in* Metroid threads, wagging their fingers at Metroid fans now? Do you guys just come here thirsty for shitposting, or what?

>>380610795
Other M development had budding heads, this game Mercury Steam is shutting the hell up and letting Sakamoto do his job.

>>380589012
>>Made by a studio that releases garbage
Reminder Lords of Shadow was Kojima's work and the Gameplay for Samus Returns was great.

>>380613569
>budding
Butting anon.

>>380589012
Can we at least try to save Metroid?

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It's simple! We violate Samus... in her pure blue ass!

>>380614032
>the Gameplay for Samus Returns was great.
Hang on now. Let's not go overstating things. The core of the mechanics looked to be there, but some of the new features they're adding look alarming. Possibly casualizing.

>>380603898
Wow, that comparison was done quite fast...

>Metroid fans are more impossible to please than SJWs

What did you want? A new handheld called the MDS, Metroid DS made specifically with high specs just for the four new Metroid announced at E3? Two 2d and 23d? Metroid fans would bitch about having to pay for the console and the games on it kek. It's like every copy of Metroid has to come with a free blowjob from Samus herself and you guy would still bitch that "Nintendo isn't treating the IP with respect"

Looking forward to Metroid fans being a meme in 2018

>>380605342
>Yeah, that melee counter is the peak of complexity.
It mother more variety of attack, which is good, but that' was beside the point being discussed, there.

>>380614146
Dammit, thanks

>>380609889
>Guess what Nintendo's shitty remake doesn't have?
I don't know. It's not like we know at which framerate the game will be.

>>380614679
>but some of the new features they're adding look alarming
Not really no, the most "alarming" thing there would be the melee counter and that still relies on timing from the player unlike Other M did for its similar mechanic.

>>380589012
>Cry WAAH NINTENDO GIB METROID for a decade
>Finally get Metroid
>Ew, Metroid? I don't want it
Courage_Macaroni.jpg

>>380615030
>It's not like we know at which framerate the game will be.
But we do. It's 30 FPS, and with weaker movement options than AM2R.

>>380616137
>But we do. It's 30 FPS,
Source?

>>380589126
Stormfags and underage contrarians ruined this board. Don't lie to yourself and pretend this board represents any meaningful demographic ever, Metroid fans everywhere else couldn't be happier.

>>380616306
>Source?
The trailer and stream.

>>380616137
>and with weaker movement options than AM2R.
You mean more, AM2R couldn't shoot at 360°

Metroidfans are the worst. Complain about everything.

>>380616438
Irrelevant combat option, you moron. AM2R has things like auto-morph and auto-ledge climbing, which are far superior.

>>380616576
>AM2R has things like auto-morph and auto-ledge climbing
Okay?
You do realise that there are times where you don't want to do those things right? Also that's not a movement option.

>Make good game
>Thanks Nintendo

>Make bad game
>It's a bad game

FUCKING ENTITLED FANBOYS

This shit is already a top seller on amazon, so relax. You'll have your precious rehashes made by albanians

>>380616837
>You do realise that there are times where you don't want to do those things right?
Name them, and besides, they're toggleable.

>Also that's not a movement option.
Holy fucking shit, you're a goddamn ignoramus.

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AM2R didn't die though, it's a finished product that you can still get if you want to play it.

I'm not a fan of the way Samus Returns looks like (I think 2D Metroid should stay fully 2D, based entirely on spritework) but all in all you could say that it's shaping up to be a solid Metroid title that looks and plays like the older ones.

If this shit sells, and there's no reason to think it won't, then the brand will be fully revived, considering you also get Prime 4. Just say you want a fucking Metroid thread instead of starting with bait, holy shit.

>>380616964
>they're toggleable.
There's no point to them to begin with.

>Holy fucking shit, you're a goddamn ignoramus.
Anon, those are auto activation capabilities of the movement options themselves. Both movement options also existing in MSR

>>380616576
>AM2R has things like auto-morph and auto-ledge climbing, which are far superior
You don't know all the movement option in Samus Returns.
>Irrelevant combat option
How so?

>>380616576
>AM2R has things like auto-morph and auto-ledge climbing, which are far superior.
What are those?

>>380617183
>There's no point to them to begin with.
Wrong.

>Anon, those are auto activation capabilities of the movement options themselves
Yep, you're an ignoramus who hasn't even played AM2R.

>>380617075
As far as updates from the original dev are concerned, yes it is dead.

>>380617296
>You don't know all the movement option in Samus Returns.
I do though. It's the same as always because Sakamoto is an uncreative hack whose only ideas of improving Metroid is more fucking combat.

>How so?
It's not relevant to the discussion of movement itself.

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>Mirror of Fate announced
>everyone hates it
>terrible sales

>Exact same game, but it has a Metroid skin
>Everyone loves it
>Tons of preorders

>>380589012
>>AM2R died for this
No. it didn't. the game is complete and you can download it anywhere you ask for.

>>380617409
Play the game. Here, have a torrent!

>AM2R base game
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:71c3dbdf9d7962c0cf359bea43ec99c8948ecac5&dn=AM2R_11.zip&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fzer0day.ch%3a1337&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.demonii.com%3a1337&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969

>Latest fan update: Includes new game plus, bugfixes, and a powerup randomizer mode.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/73wu5gxm21bf29a/AM2R-mod-v11-to-v129.zip

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Sometimes /v/s contrarianism is too much to handle. I just want to play vidya.

>>380617528
Just answer the question.

>>Latest fan update: Includes new game plus, bugfixes, and a powerup randomizer mode.
So it didn't die.

>>380617420
>Yep, you're an ignoramus who hasn't even played AM2R.
Is that really your only argument.

>>380617685
>Just answer the question.
When you move towards a ledge or hold down-direction when approaching a morphball location, you automatically climb the ledge/morph into morph ball mode instead of having to stop.

>>380617420
>I do though. It's the same as always because Sakamoto is an uncreative hack whose only ideas of improving Metroid is more fucking combat.
So you actually know nothing.

>It's not relevant to the discussion of movement itself.
Being able to aim at 360 is relevant to movements.

>>380617781
It's a statement of fact, not an argument of any sort.

>>380617685
see
>>380617420
>As far as updates from the original dev are concerned, yes it is dead.

>>380617875
>So you actually know nothing.
I knew from watching the trailer alone. The stream only further confirmed it. But hey, stay delusional.

>Being able to aim at 360 is relevant to movements.
ESL scum detected. Kill yourself.

Why are people saying that MercurySteam is a bad developer? I admit, I haven't played any of their games, but from what I heard Lords of Shadow wasn't outright bad, but just mediocre.

>>380617828
Uh... I'd prefer not to. usually, when I hang myself up, I prefer to have the option to be able to shoot before morphing.

>>380618098
Luckily for you, you can. Seriously - how could you have not followed AM2R's development? Are you that much of a drone?

>>380591776
>I'm sure that Nintendo watched over them just like they did with the team behind Luigi's Mansion 2.
Luigi's Mansion 2 was soulless garbage with none of the charm of the original game.

>>380617994
>>As far as updates from the original dev are concerned, yes it is dead.
The game is finished.
>I knew from watching the trailer alone. The stream only further confirmed it. But hey, stay delusional.
The streamm showed good control.
>ESL scum detected. Kill yourself.
? Being able to shoot at 360 seems useful. you can't diss it out and not give reasons.

>>380618207
It's not official Nintendo
It lacks the charm, design and game feel

Not to mention it feels like stealing from an old friend

>>380618330
>The game is finished.
Nope.

>The streamm showed good control.
Are you a phoneposter or something? It showed the same shitty control as Other M, now with a terrible counter system straight outta Mirror of Fate.

>? Being able to shoot at 360 seems useful.
It is wholly irrelevant to the question of movement itself.

>>380618207
I mean, not transforming into a ball and being able to shoot immediately, instead of having to morph out of morphball once I am close an edge.

>>380618409
>>It's not official Nintendo
>it feels like stealing from an old friend
Yep, you really are a soulless corporate drone.

>>380618489
You don't even know how it plays, I'm done arguing with a shill like you.

>>380618207
>how could have you not followed the development of a shilled fangame
>(droning)are you that much of a drone
kek

>>380618445
>It showed the same shitty control as Other M,
No, it didn't.
>It is wholly irrelevant to the question of movement itself.
How so? It is part of the movements.

>>380618609
>>No, it didn't.
It most certainly did.

>How so? It is part of the movements.
>movements
Shut the fuck up, ESL scum. Again - it isn't when we're talking about the movement itself and how it interacts with the environment without attacking anything.

>>380589861
Only children can't discern quality. Return of Samus might surprise, but it looks like dogshit right now, and it is certainly uninspired.

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>don't mind me, just making a fan game

>>380618738
>It most certainly did.
No. not at all. First and foremost, it didn't had that dodge mechanics that ruined Other M. So no.
>Shut the fuck up, ESL scum. Again - it isn't when we're talking about the movement itself and how it interacts with the environment without attacking anything.
You seem to establish very specific rules so you don't ackowledge an actual improvement. quite the mental gymnastic, there.

What is ESL, btw?

AM2R is a bit artless (like most fan projects), but Return of Samus looks like a ridiculous farce by comparison.

>>380618794
>Return of Samus might surprise, but it looks like dogshit right now, and it is certainly uninspired.
It look really nice.

>>380589861
Yamauchi never played a single video game, and yet he was able to discern quality by only watching a few minutes of gameplay.

>>380619005

>No. not at all. First and foremost, it didn't had that dodge mechanics that ruined Other M. So no.
Shitty counter attack spam is the exact same.
>Very specific
Nope. It's related to movement specifically.

>What is ESL, btw?
The fact you don't know betrays the truth of your origin. English isn't your first language.

>>380619125
No it doesn't, it looks like a Pixar movie directed by Zack Snyder. It's cool if you didn't play Super Metroid, but you should check it out sometime.

>>380619201
Yamauchi >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Failure Iwata

>>380604131
Sprites are dead you fucking idiot. Modern 2D games ARE 2.5D. The only companies still using sprites are the ones like WayForward or the Shovel Knight devs, who are purposely using them to invoke nostalgia for retro games. Even WayForward moved to 2.5D in their newest game.

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>MercurySteam
>that hack Sakamoto is back

>>380619401
>sprites are dead
>Shovel Knight
>Starbound
>Undertale
>Terraria
>Stardew Valley
>etcetcetc
Dumb or not paying attention?

>>380589126

Nintendo isn't even developing the fucking game

>>380589126
>Metroid fans are retarded babies
What else is new.

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>>380619201
>Shitty counter attack spam is the exact same.
No. it is in no way the same thing. Dodge in other M relied on button spamming, wich could be pulled easily. Parry actually require timing skills.

>Nope. It's related to movement specifically.
Aiming is part of the movements. It was a big step forward when, in Super MEtroid, you were finally allowed to aim at angle.
>The fact you don't know betrays the truth of your origin. English isn't your first language.
It isn't but that doesn't answer my question.

>>380620109
>Parry actually require timing skills.
It didn't in Mirror of Fate, and you're a goddamn comedian if you think it won't be even easier in NuAM2R.

>Aiming is part
No, it isn't. Not for this discussion, because it's essentially wholly irrelevant to non-combat portions.

>It isn't but that doesn't answer my question.
It does. You don't even understand what I'm saying, so we have nothing to discuss here.

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>>380619840
>Shovel Knight
>Starbound
>Undertale
>Terraria
>Stardew Valley
>Minecraft

>purposely using them to invoke nostalgia for retro games
Dumb or not paying attention?

>Get two real Metroid games announced
>Still whine
Just as bad as Megamanfags whining when there's already been a ton of Megaman games.

>>380620592
The fact that they were so well practiced at a relatively easy formula, and still couldn't pull it off, only makes matters worse.

>>380620592
>you're not allowed to criticize anything
Braindead retard.

>>380620520
Weird, because the people who like those games the most aren't alive enough to have nostalgia for their graphics. Are you dumb, or just not paying attention?

>>380589012
DIDN'T THEY MAKE IT IN A INFERIOR GAME MAKER PROGRAM? WHY ARE YOU ON THIS?

>>380620369
>It didn't in Mirror of Fate, and you're a goddamn comedian if you think it won't be even easier in NuAM2R.
You don't know that either.
>No, it isn't. Not for this discussion, because it's essentially wholly irrelevant to non-combat portions.
Except movement are important for the combat part and aiming is part of it. And being able to shoot as 360 IS an improvement you can"'t deny.

>>380619840
>Kirby RTDL, TD, PR, and Kirby 2018
>Yoshi's Woolly World and Yoshi 2018
>all of the DKC games
>NiGHTS into Dreams
>Sonic Generations classic stages
>various highly acclaimed 5th gen platformers like Goemon's Great Adventure, Mischief Makers, etc

No, 2.5D graphics in a sidescroller isn't inherently bad. I'll never understand this sentiment. Bloodstained looks great too and this Metroid game isn't bad looking at all aside from the 3DS resolution.

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>>380619201
>>380618738
>>380617994

>ESL
When you have to use that kind of argument, we already know that your opinion is worthless. Just shut up and kill yourself.

>>380589861
Have you got fucking eyes

>>380604527
What? That kind of thing wasn't an accident caused by limitations. The level designers intentionally put speed running shit in there