>repeatedly advertise games as "4k" >actually

anyone with a brain isn't going to buy one so who cares

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>>380580842

Because its 'OK' when MS does it just because the xbox one x is more powerful

But when sony does it 'HURR DURR THAT'S NOT 4K'

Why does this bother you so much?

>>380580842
>passing up offscaled
>passing off upscaled
>assing puff scalebutt

Wait, did they confirm it was checkerboarding? I figured it would be, but damn.

Everyone knew this console would be using checkerboarding similar to ps4 pro for demanding games.

Ps4 Pro does 1440p. X will be higher resolution. Both still use checkerboarding

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>>380580842
It was always fake you fucking idiots.
Don't act all surprised now, the documentation has been out for years.

Its almost as if consolefags are ignorant about technology

>>380580842
They never said it fully renders in 4k anon, it's a 4k console, it outputs 4k, doesn't matter if it's 1080p in a blackbox or upscaled 720p, it's still 3840x2160

>>380581058
depends on game
Asscreed Origins was 100% checkerboarding, digitalfoundry had source footage and zoomed in on artifacting around the feathers of the hawk and confirmed the interpolation AND also exposed dynamic resolution upscaling too.

Might as well be playing a nintendo switch lmao

>>380581180
>Its almost as if consolefags are ignorant about technology

stop pretending you know shit about 4k. youre just as clueless as consolefags but you just want to feel good about yourself and pretend youre a know-it-all.

>>380581259
The Switch at least has some games

>>380581319
Yeah, it has Wii U games

>>380581306
Face it console-fag. You're never ever going to get true 4K.

>>380580842
4k is 4k

Who cares what tech they use, as long as it's 4k it's OK

>>380581372
So if I play Breath of the Wild on my 4k television and its stretched to 4k, looks gud rite?

>>380581259
Watched the same vid. Didn't they say resolution was 4k via pixel counts anyway?

>>380581436
is it native 4k?
No?

Then it doesn't count

>>380581556
So whats the difference between the TV upscaling from 1080p output to 2160p, versus the console upscaling from 1080p rendering to 2160 output?

>b-b-but checkerboarding is slightly less blurry XDDD

The bottom line - Assassin's Creed Origins may not be a native, 'true' 4K game, but it really doesn't matter. Crucially, it looks great on a 4K screen, and if there is dynamic resolution in play in order to stabilise performance, we didn't pick up on anything that overtly compromises the image. Indeed, we extracted a few shots for pixel-counting analysis and found a 2160p result in all cases. The only caveat to apply is that the Xbox One X development can deploy an additional 10 per cent of GPU resources, as it has access to 44 compute units over the retail unit's 40. Whether these extras CUs were in play or not is unknown.

Via Digital Foundry

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>>380580842
Dunno whether you're talking about the Xbone or the PS4 Pro, but if you're buying a console for 4k, you're an idiot.

It's one thing when you're using VR or a computer monitor, where the distance between your eyeballs and the screen will be measured in inches, but when you are gonna play on a TV, where the distance will be measured in feet, you're wasting your money.

Now, if you're gonna discuss framerate, that is an acceptable reason, but the resolution itself is for literal idiots who instinctively buy something because its new and has a higher number.

>>380581831
The human eye is capable of perceiving up to 7680x4320 at 144 fps up to 10 meters. This is accomplished by a favorable configuration of rods and cones possessed by suitable humans.

>>380582694
I never said you weren't. That said, you need to have an appropriate screen size in order to see the difference. As you can see, the size of the screen needs to be huge in order to see the difference between 4k and 1080p at 10 feet.

>>380581683
The difference is that one is a "feature" for sony[/soiler]ggers.

>>380581259

They had to zoom in and compare pixels. Think about that - you couldn't tell the difference until they did a pixel by pixel analysis. I hate xbones as much as the next guy, but you have to admit that graphics hardware in general outstrips our ability to appreciate it.

>>380583863
wow, then why did you guys went so mad when ppl said that HZD on PS4 pro was native 4k as well?
Checkerbording is ok now?

>>380583863
you are literally retarded

>>380584107

I never got mad, settle down fella.

I'm saying that graphics have gotten to the point that normal, well adjusted people wouldn't notice the difference unless you went to extreme effort to show them.

The graphics wars are over, old man. That was the 90s and 2000s. You can't build a better mousetrap - just cheaper or more expensive ones.

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>>380584332

>>380583863
You can easily SEE the difference between 4k and checkerbox upscaled 1080p.
You can't easily PROVE the difference without zooming in to compare pixels

>Ps4 pro uses checkerbording but it's still 4k native on the paper
"waaaa stupid sonnyger its not 4k native you dumb fucker, HZD isn't 4k"
>Scorpio might uses checkerbording
"IMPOSSIBLE, look at that car game that runs perfectly at 4k/60fps"
>First AAA title on Scorpio runs at 30fps/checkerboring
"Hey it's fine, nobody will notice the difference".

>>380584523
Oh, yea? Why no one on PC is using checkerbording then, if you don't notice the difference?

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But if its just checkerbox """4k""" like the PS4 Pro
why does it cost $100 more?
and come 1 year later??

>>380583608
>can't even spoiler properly
EMBARRASSING

>>380584714
Because 2d pixel sprite indie games don't need checkerboarding to run in 4k

Why not do real 4k with good power instead of trying to do it with sketchy power?

Charge $100 more for the thing and show some real 4k for fucks sakes.

>>380580842
>Checkerboard 4K
>499

>>380584910
Because if they actually wanted to compete with a $1000 computer like they claimed, then they'd wind up charging $1000 for the console

Their trick is to create a $500 console that has the performance of a $250 PC, upscaling it 4x

>Man $500 for 4k, how PCs can compete?
By having a $200 rx480 running last AAA games on dx12 with checkerbording on, with medium graphics at 30fps.

>>380584910
>Charge 600 for the Xbone X
>Not realize that this is the same price that got the launch PS3 (which had free online and full BC) shit on.

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>>380584760
why indeed

>>380583863
you have to zoom into the inner workings of a car to see if it's of the same quality as the one next to it that looks nearly identical
I know this is either bait or ironic bait but please

>>380580842
The most powerful console ever created still cannot go above 30 fps

They should create new interlaced checkerboarding where instead of rendering 1/4 pixels @ 30 fps, they render 1/8 pixels @ 60 fps in alternating columns

>>380580842
Even Digital Foundry says checkerboard rendering should come to PC because it's a good trade off between quality and performance.

Did you really think that the Xbone X could do 4K when the original can't even do 720p most of the time?

>>380580842
it's allowed because console games are played from 10ft away from the screen where you can't notice the artifacts. if normies played consoles on monitors then that shit wouldn't fly

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>>380585606
but friend, the original only did 480p

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>>380585817
Nope, it did up to 1080i my amigo. Better if you bought a VGA adapter.

>>380580842
NO NO NO

FUCK YOU

DELETE THIS

THIS IS OUR BIG COMEBACK

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>>380585817
made me think

>>380585893
and how many 1080i games were there
my 486 could have done 4k resolution 60 fps minesweeper with the right modifications

>>380581806
>Xfags love DF now because they make excuses for a game not being native 4K

My sides are in orbit

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>>380585989
>my 486 could have done 4k resolution 60 fps minesweeper with the right modifications

>>380584714
IIRC a few games do, like Siege.

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>>380585125
>$200 rx480
why don't you go and look up the prices now sweetheart

>>380580842
>muh NOT4K
There is literally one game which is, in its current alpha state is not full 4K.

Gears 4 beta had dips everywhere with a much worse graphics and guess what, it was silky smooth on release.

>>380585817
It had 720p for some games and Enter the Matrix game ran at 1080i. Plus you can run PSX games at 1080i too.

>>380585989
>and how many 1080i games were there

1080i games:
>Atari Anthology
>Double S.T.E.A.L The Second Clash
>Dragon's Lair 3D: Return to the Lair
>Enter the Matrix
>MX Unleashed
>MX vs. ATV Unleashed
>Syberia

720p games:
>Sega GT Online
>25 To Life
>Amped 2
>Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
>Crash Nitro Kart
>ESPN NBA Basketball
>ESPN NFL Football
>Evil Dead: Regeneration
>FIFA 06 Soccer
>FIFA 07 Soccer
>FIFA Street
>FIFA Street 2
>Freedom Fighters
>The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
>Justice League Heroes
>Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
>Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
>MVP Baseball 2004
>MVP Baseball 2005
>MVP 06: NCAA Baseball
>NBA 2K3
>NBA Live 06
>NBA Live 07[2]
>Ricochet Lost Worlds[3]
>Scarface: The World Is Yours
>The Sims 2
>The Sims Bustin' Out
>Soul Calibur II
>Steel Battalion: Line of Contact
>Street Hoops
>Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
>Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
>Tony Hawk's Underground
>Tony Hawk's Underground 2
>Total Overdose: A Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico
>True Crime: Streets of LA
>The Urbz: Sims in the City
>Virtual Pool: Tournament Edition
>The Warriors
>X-Men Legends
>X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

The rest was 480p. It was legit 720p and 1080i by the way, no checkboard or upscaled bullshit.

>>380586716
>Redmond shills have clocked in

>>380580842
is anyone actually going to buy a inbetween generation console honestly if they are dumb enough fuck em

>>380580842
>actually checkerboarding
No, my lad, that's the PS4. You're having an emotional breakdown over this, sort yourself out.

>>380581683
So where's the source for all of this shit? The SDF posts some unsubstantiated bullshit and everyone just rolls with it.

>>380580842
/v/ is more fucking retarded than I thought.

Microsoft left it up to developers to decide how they want to utilize the hardware. If they truly wanted to devs could seriously make their game 720p.

MS has no say in how games are made, they just give them the hardware and hope for the best.

>>380584629
>Scorpio might uses checkerbording
Source?

>>380580842
Xbox One X has the same name problem as the Wii U. It'll flop hard

>>380587850
this,i mean
for now the metro exodus devs said they are targeting full 4k for xox so i guess we wait and see how they work on it vs pro.
then we can call them out on it

>>380580842
It can do 4k, but it's up for developers to do it.
Same with ps4 pro

>>380588781
except more closer to impossible on ps4 pro to go true 4k

>>380588685
>targeting

kek I've heard that before in relation to Xbox

>>380588986
remember,the developers have to choice to go true 4k
thing is that choice is not available on the ps4 pro,sorry to tell you that your console still is the weakest

>>380580842
I'm just waiting for the day when XBOX and PS4P have "only for" games running at 900p.

>>380589154
>thing is that choice is not available on the ps4 pro,
>He's not heard of scaling down fidelity
>He doesn't know there are several 4K games on the Pro
>He doesn't know most Xboners are stuck with the OG

kek

>>380589569
You know bethesda will be the first to do it.
They use console resources in most retarded ways

>>380589708
even if they scale down fidelity,they still sont be able to run anything high end in true 4k on the pro
and you know it

>>380589857
>true 4k

There's that marketing phrase again.

Pajeet, please leave.

>>380590302
>>380590302
awe whats the matter,your favourite console cant run full 4k?
atleast we had forza 7 run at 4k60,give an example for ps4
thats full 4k
oh wait you cant

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>>380580842
>passing up offscaled

>>380585606
>Even Digital Foundry

Their opinion stopped mattering the moment Sony bought them and turned them into a poor performance apologist website, where suddenly 22 FPS dips were now "not too much of an issue" when UC4 came out.

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I remember for the past fucking year listening to Xboners on this site go on and on about how "SCORPIO WILL BE REAL 4K"
And now it turns out that it's just gonna be a more expensive PS4Pro

>>380581208
>4K without compromises
>we see the PS4 Pro as competition for the Xbox One S
>Xbox One X renders games at checkerboarded 4K just like the PS4 Pro
Horizon Zero Dawn, Days Gone, Assassin's Creed, and Anthem all run at the exact same resolution.

>>380590746
Wipeout, faggot. Locked 4K 60 and it looks better than shitty Forza.
Here, have a list, https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4Pro/comments/5bn9oa/ps4_pro_4k_native_games_will_update_the_list/
>in b4 they don't count

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>>380581025
>scalebound never

>>380591018
Have you played Uncharted 4? I don't recall the specific article you're talking about but framedips are very rare in it. It's not a shitshow like The Last Guardian or Bloodborne.

They have announced actual 4K

>>380591381
This is hilarious!

What were they thinking running their mouth like that ?

>>380591541
I have no idea given the Xbox One S can't even match the launch PS4 in terms of visual fidelity. To this day it still runs most games worse and at lower resolutions.

So seriously bros, what the FUCK happened to Crackdown 3 and why does no one seem to give a shit? This is the worst downgrade I have ever seen.

>>380591716
The whole "power of the cloud" was completely fake and everyone with a brain knew it was too good to be true. To this day there is not a single game on Xbox One that uses "The Cloud" to enhance visuals or physics and the Xbox One has been out for almost 4 years.

>>380591952
I think this is based more on the fact that to utilise the cloud you have to do always online. Well we know how consumers reacted to that idea.

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phil already said that devs can choose between going checker boarding or true 4k you mouth breathing mong

>>380581478
4k as in 4000 pixels in total isn't hard to achieve

>>380585289

Your pixels won't break down because of checkerboarding, anon. Pick an analogy that works. You are basically comparing the readability of the speedometer by getting far closer than you can drive the car at.

But look at me, telling a 12 year old about cars.

Do checkerboarding from 720p to 1080p look bad?
It's probably an quite decent plan to do on for example the nintendo switch.

>>380580842
Same reason they're allowed to advertise their DRM-OS living room PC as a 'games console'. regulatory agencies were capture and dismantled generations ago.

>>380580842
Because that bullshiting works on tech illiterates
You don't know how many of my friends I've had to tell that the Xbonex will upscale to 4k, just like the PS4 pro

>>380592595
Checkerboarding is exactly 1/2 resolution so 720p to 1080p isn't possible. What it would actually be is like 960x1080, with each line of resolution only refreshing odd or even pixels each frame. The algorithm then estimates what the missing pixels would be and draws them into the checkerboarded frame.

>consolefags
>poor people

>>380587850
>they just give them the hardware and hope for the best
They give them shitty underpowered hardware and hope for the best
ftfy

Ubisoft having to use checkerboarding for their game does not mean that the Xbox One doesn't run native 4k.

>>380593440
But in order to achieve native 4k they would have to severely downgrade the graphics, it's not worth it because consolebros don't even know the difference between native and upscaled.

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>mfw PC
>real 4k

>>380581370
I'm ok with that.
That means my 1050ti will not need an update so soon.

>>380592894
That's what consoles have always been. Its not a new thing.

>>380580842
consolefags can't even see a difference between 30fps and 60 fps, how would they notice a difference between 1080p and 4k anyway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E5L2sOvNI
>checkerboarding again

It's okay when Microsoft does it obviously

A lot of devs prefer checkerboarding render because it is more efficient to deploy and bandwith friendly I mean let's be honest not everyone has the time nor bandwidth nor patiences to download 60-100GB of just textures and normals maps. Also Xbone X still bottlenecked by CPU

>>380596716
Sure but then MS shouldn't have tried to rub it in with thier TRUE 4k, yet most third party games will probably not run at full 4k and most older games won't even get a patch

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>consoles dont get true 4k for 6 more years
meh normals cant see the difference anyways, checkerboarding will get them buy and it still looks better than 1080p so fuck it. I would rather have more graphics on screen at 1080 than 4k personally. And a stable fps more than that.

>hurrr consoles have worse graffix than PC
YA DONT SAY

>>380581167
Most Pro games are 1800 checkerboard upscaled

Bullshit. Show proof you dumb nigger.

>>380588973
Quite a few games are already native 4k on the pro

>>380598739
name one that is above 30 fps,stable 30

>>380598497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E5L2sOvNI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oPvbpVGP0 [Embed]

>checkerboarding
>30fps
>bad texutres and pop in

Don't just call others nigger before making using google for 3 seconds

>>380599258
or better yet name one that is native 4k period

>>380580842
Nice try except Phil Spencer himself said that it would be up to the developer if they want to do 4k or checker boarding. Saying it "can't" do 4k makes no sense, it will always be a balance between fidelity and framerate

>>380599258
>>380599363
TLOU
>inb4 doesn't count
Resogun
>inb4 doesn't count
FIFA 17
NBA 2K17
Thumper
>inb4

>>380581208
Except it's not. It's a blown up way less clear version of 4k

I wouldn't even care if it's not native 4k if they actually said that they use checkerboarding like PS4 Pro, but they just said TRUE 4k NATIVE 4k all the fucking time at their conference to show that they're better than the Pro, yet it didn't amount to much

>>380590746
Muh car game.

If you care so much about 4k why not just build a pc where it's actually 4k. Unless you are a poor fag and can't actually afford anything we are talking about

>>380585175

Fucking made me chuckle

>>380599507
wow, uprezed remasters, indieshit and sports games...bravo

>>380600214
>it doesn't count

Man MS fags have become really vocal lately
Suddenly all the shit that Sony did with PS4 Pro is totally fine when Xbone does it

>>380584629
Forza is native 4k 60fps. Turn 10 even confirmed that the console had 30% more power left over.

>>380600353
Why should it count when these are graphically undemanding games to begin with?

>>380584760
Because it's more powerful than a ps4 pro and comes with an UHD blue ray player

Source on the checkerboarding claim? Not trying to disprove here. I kinda hope it's real.

>>380585008
Build me a 250 dollar Computer that can preform as good as the Scorpio

>>380601251
You asked for at least one native 4k game period. If you have special rules name them earlier.

>>380580842
I thought checkerboarding was the thing Pro does. X is the "true 4K" experience!

>>380585893
Are there any og Xbox wireless controllers?

>>380601343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E5L2sOvNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oPvbpVGP0

>>380586592

Is AMD trying to kill itself?

>>380601358
Not that guy, but the thing is, most console games even if they run at "4k" still use low to mid settings. They usually have horrible draw distance, texutre quality, shadows etc.
Get a used 970 and an i5 and it will work

>>380588041
What problem was that?

>>380580842
>its not 4k. Its 1k
1920x1080 (the lowest common resolution games will use to upscale from) is actually defined as 2k. It's near enough the same resolution of films you will watch at a theater. This is the exact reason why I think 4k is a meme-- 1080p is already an ample amount of pixels for a good presentation.

>>380601509
Lol thanks

>>380601804
>1080p is already an ample amount of pixels for a good presentation.

what?

>>380601485
Logitech made some

>>380601192
Forza looks like shit. Hyperoptimized shit, but shit all the same.

They should focuse on 1080p with better fps and way better settings instead. Why the fuck would you want 4k when you still play with low grahic console settings.
But i guess 4k and buzzwords sell these days

>>380581208
If that's the case then the original ps4 can do "4k"

Man where did all those passive agressive xbone fags suddenly come from. You see nothing for years and now they shit on everyone else because they have a console with 1 good game that is also on PC

>>380603465
Paid ahills

any source

>>380599772
look,you dont have a console that can ever go above 30 fps in 4k,atleast the xox can,if the developers want to

>>380602881
>Forza looks like shit
oh stop I don't even like racing games but forza looks great

>>380601628
The title being too similar to previous consoles causing consumer confusion and lost sales maybe?

>>380603689
>>380601509

>>380584608
Checkerboard rendering =/= upscaling. I can tell you that a game checkerboarded to 2160p will be practically indistinguishable from a native rendering of the exact same content from a normal viewing distance. You're lying to yourself if you believe otherwise. Not commenting on the nuances of True4K vs native rendering vs checkerboard rendering, just saying that depending on the final render pass of checkerboarding you generally won't be able to tell a difference.

>>380580842
No one is calling them out because no one is retarded enough to buy one.

>>380604819
Then why don't all devs do it including games on PC?

>>380601192
Race track games are some of the easiest games to run bro, it's why forza 6 is 1080p 60 fps on xbone. Open world racing games like horizon are much much harder to run hence why the xbone can only achieve 1090p and 30 fps.

they even said true 4k
as in, its not the fake one our direct competitor uses
behold, its the exact same method still at 30fps
amazing
i hope none of you negrillon decides to pick this up, but at the same time it would likely kill microshit and leave us with only sonuly with no competition = hell on earth

>>380580842
Because they already advertised 1080p 60 frames with the vanilla console editions and that wasn't true either.

it's ok when sony does it

>>380581025
>assing puff scalebutt
I remember a time when this board would have had a few replies to this.

>>380606034
No it's okay when MS does it. Sony said right from the start that they use checkerboarding to achive better resolutions. MS just screamed TRUE 4K at their conference

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>>380580842
>HAHAHA THE PS4Pro only upscales! I'll spend $150 extra and get my TRUE 4K Xbox machine than only has a skeleton library but that doesn't matter because 4K!!!!

>XboneX still upscales the majority of games, with only a handful rendering in native 4K, just like the PS4pro. Barely any games get a FPS increase from 30 to 60fps, they stay at 30fps if the OG Xbone version runs at 30fps, just like the PS4pro

OH I'M LAFFIN
and no, $150 wasn't a mistake, PS4pro will obviously get a $50 price drop just before XboneX comes out

Seriously who IS the target market for Scorpio? We have the cheap OG consoles, and the high-end PC at the top. Both PS4pro and XboneX are a middle-ground compromise of "not true 4K and not 60fps". Who'd choose to go for the middle-ground BUT pay EXTRA to... still get the middle-ground option? I don't get it, I truly don't. Either get the OG consoles or spend those $500 upgrading your PC (which plays the same games as XboneX, even mainline Forza7 now)

>>380606947
Dudebros that fall for buzzwords and believe every lie. Did you even watch thier conference they woo'd for every number and shit

>>380606947
>sorry anon, I'm not gonna gonna spend $3000 on a pc and have to download 20 drivers and updates every time I want to play a game.
>but I sit at a desk all day at work, why would I want to sit at a desk all day at home to play games. My couch is so comfy
>PC gaming? Heh, what are you some sort of nerd
>sorry, but pc doesn't have all my weebshit games

That's Scorpios target market

>>380607613
>xbox fags
>giving a shit about weebshit

>>380607706
Yeah actually youre right scratch that one off the list

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>look at the specs
>it's using a weak processor that wasn't even relevant 4 years ago
>graphics card that was relevant maybe 5 years ago
>"it can do true 4K 60fps!"

No way in hell and I knew they were lying. I know Microsoft fanboys are ignorant but they are really playing off that they are retarded.

>>380607706
And that's why Sony has been dominating and will continue to. Sony didn't burn the weeb bridge for a reason. That's a paying customer base Microsoft insulted and made clear they had no interest in obtaining. This makes it where Sony is able to have both western and eastern gamers.

>>380606947
dude, it's Microsoft we are talking about, disregard any possible market or business strategy, just look at the mainline Microsoft computer for this generation, all very expensive, over the top premium computers with premium functionality or premium hardware, people like to say that somehow Microsoft has competition on the tech industry because of Samsung and Apple, but the fact is meanwhile Apple has the highest stock market Microsoft makes the most money.

The Xbox One X is nothing more to Microsoft than a show off of their powerhouse, engineering and innovation mainline products. What Microsoft wants, and is doing now, is to have the most powerful products on all technological - computer related - business.

Just take a look on what they did with the Surface pro Laptop and the Surface Studio, I predict soon enough they will come with a very powerful Mobile phone too.

Eventually Microsoft will consolidate themselves as the company who produces the top high quality products for tech.

>>380583863
Yeah your right and you might not even notice across a room on a couch. Still does not change the fact is false advertising.

They have been pushing and marketing this as a 4K console which is a complete and utter lie, its the same shit as the PS4 Pro.

>>380608087
fuck off

>>380608087
I think it will have native 4K in some games but with how big of a bottleneck the CPU is I have a very hard time believing it will be 60FPS in anything besides a select few first party Microsoft games.

>>380609187
triggered

Imagine all the resources wasted on fake 4k

This could have been used to make worlds more detailed, more interactive, bigger. But no, lets use it for something you barely even notice.

>>380583863
It really depends to which resolution they checkerboard. Most checkerboarded games definitely look a bit softer compared to native 4k games at least in motion. Which is the whole thing behind checkerboarding. It's basicly native 4k when you stand still but slightly lower resoluton once you move.
Still pretty stupid that they said TRUE NATIVE 4K all the time. At least Sony said right away that it's checkerboarding

>>380609454
Blame buzzwords. It's all that sells today. Only a few select devs actually make good patchs that use the hardware more than just resolution

>>380609454
This is why I'm kind of mad that 4k exists. And now we have 4k, you'd think at some point it would plateau so they'd fix other stuff but no, then they'll start some other meme push.

>>380609331
dude, you lie like a little bitch, it is a custom processor, you cannot literally know if it is good or not until somebody like digital foundry gets hands on it.

>>380608775
isn't that a very long term game ?

>>380601626
>used
That's the difference

Build me one with brand new parts then talk to me

phil spencer is a cool dude, and he TOLD me it was okay to play his games on my rig which is more powerful than an XOX with 5 times the amount of games

also i don't have to wait another 5 months to play NO GAMES, minecraft or battlegrounds

thanks phil

>>380609853
And they already had their hands on it, it doesn't matter how custom it is, it's still based on the jaguar which is just a beefed up mobile chip

>>380609645
>a bit softer

I though r6s looked like blurry shit with it on but that's just me. Maybe it looks better in other games

>>380580842
You had to realize it wouldn't be true 4K. 4K requires an absolute beast amount of memory and power and a decent CPU. And Microsoft wasn't going to get all that in $500.

They would have never gotten true 4K unless the game was early PS3/360 graphics. Anything that looks even partiallly like a modern game is far too much for any console to handle at an affordable price. And 60fps? Are you fucking joking? That's twice as much power on top of 4x as much needed for 4K. So literally like 8x power of PS4 needed for 4K. Xbots and Sonybros were dreaming if they thought that was gonna happen with Pro/XboneX

>>380611190
Depends on the game. Games that upsclae from 1800p to 4k aren't that bad like Horizon but games that go from 1440p to 4k just look weird. They might as well use that GPU power for better settings

>>380587725
>No, my lad
Fuck off with that shit and yes, it is checkerboarding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oPvbpVGP0&t=1s

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>>380591393
>and it looks better than shitty Forza
No it really doesn't.

>>380613784
Everything about it looks better than forza, just the graphics are not as high fidelity.

>>380611303
>That's twice as much power on top of 4x as much needed for 4K. So literally like 8x power of PS4 needed for 4K. Xbots and Sonybros were dreaming if they thought that was gonna happen with Pro/XboneX
Yep, you also need to consider as well that the Xbox One / One S don't even render most shit at 1080p. Most 30fps games are only 900p and some are even worse at 720p. Jumping from 720p to native 4K is ~9x the pixels, and then doubling framerate on top of that? Hell no.

The Xbox One X GPU still only has 32 ROPs and doesn't even double the pixel fillrate of the launch PS4. It's fillrate is only ~3x the regular launch Xbox One.

>>380613784
check your glasses nerd