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http://www.businessinsider.com/nintendo-and-microsoft-are-making-a-lot-of-smart-moves-in-gaming-2017-6/#microsoft-continues-to-push-a-narrative-of-xbox-as-a-platform-regardless-of-hardware-1

>Nintendo is bridging the gap between handhelds and home console experiences
>Microsoft wants more cross platform cooperation between PC and home consoles
What exactly is Sony doing?
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Sony is trying to claim with a straight face that cross-platform play and backwards compatibility are a disservice to their fans.
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>video games becoming more progressive
>progressive sells
>both based out of Seattle (insanely progressive city)
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>>380562397
Sony is just doing exactly what Microsoft did in the last gen
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>>380562397
>What exactly is Sony doing?

jerking off to sales numbers
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>>380562397
Killing themselves
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>Sony is the most anti-consumer company of the big three
>Nintendo and Microsoft are cooperating with each other

Somehow I've been transported to a different timeline
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Mario X Halo when?
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>>380562762
it's typical, the one in the lead gets arrogant while the companies that are behind make more of an effort

the pendulum will swing back at some point
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>>380562397

>What exactly is Sony doing?

Winning.
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>>380562792
I want to Metroid X Halo.
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>>380562397
Making movies
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>>380563057
I'd fuck a metroid
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>>380562762

>tfw I fell for the PS4 meme in January
>Not much else on the horizon, got to play BB, Persona 5, Yakuza 0 so that's cool.
>PC is a little dated so I got Tekken 7 on the PS4 just to be safe
>Have to pay for PS+ to play online
>No PS1 titles on the online store
>Read an article where one of the people at Sony took a steaming shit on classic titles saying, "why would anyone want to play these games now?"

Seriously, what the fuck is Sony's problem. I hope Xbox's new console sells incredibly well, I see no reason why it won't. Casuals don't like PC's, they want a good console.
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>>380563057
*see
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>>380562397
>Make paid online a standard
>Force Nintenbros to play with their retard fanbase

Nah, fuck Cancersoft and fuck good guy Phil "people don't really care about 60fps" Spencer.
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>>380562397
>What exactly is Sony doing?
selling divisions
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Stagnating with the same boring cinematic shit starring Standard McDefault with fashionable stubble as the protagonist.

Fucking snore inducing.

Nintendo and Microsoft are trash too but holy fuck I hate Sony so much more than the other two.

You know.

It's a really fucking sad thing when you hate Microsoft the least of the 3 consolefag companies somehow.
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>>380563128
just emulate pals1 games dumbass. My 2011 craptop can do it.
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>>380563128

They're getting full of themselves again. They need to be knocked down a few pegs again.
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>>380562732
Sales numbers that are lower than the last console with less profit per hardware/software unit sold than last gen?

I understand that Sony might be happy that they have the highest selling home console, but handheld and PC gaming are more profitable industries now and Nintendo and Microsoft, who have a stake in each of this industries respectively are doing the smart thing by merging their home console divisions with those other more lucrative divisions of their companies. What's Sony gonna do once home consoles as an independent industry finally dies? It's hard to brag about being Captain of the ship if the ship is sinking and all the other crew members are in the life boats
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>>380562397
I really hate how microsoft fanboys are trying to latch onto Nintendo in an attempt to make their shit platform relevant.
Fuck off already. No one likes you.
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>>380562906

Don't kid yourself.

Nintendo will never be "in the lead" ever again.
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Working for GameSpot (using Thor to hide my country).

Looks like there are plans to make a two console bundle. This is a draft sent in a presentation.
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>>380562708
The 360 had backwards compatibility.
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>>380563449
Is this real, or did somebody make it?
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>>380563449
so this is what they meant by NX...
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>>380563303

I loved the OG Xbox and the 360 right up until about halfway through it's lifespan. That around where they got big on the Kinect, pushing for shitty business practices, considering canning sharing games with friends, shoving ads in your face all the time. It looks like they're learning their lesson.
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>>380563052

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-leads-us-hardware-sales-again-in-a/1100-6450114/

Winning silver or bronze maybe
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>>380563538
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>>380563339

Sony has been working on a game streaming service which isn't a bad idea to be honest. But internet speeds aren't quite there yet to make it a viable thing imo.
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>>380562397
i just hope we can get Banjo in Smash
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>Microsoft continues to push PC gamers into walled garden of Xbox.
that will sure end well.
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remember 7th gen when everyone had a Wii and a 360?
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>>380563692

>Push PC players into the walled garden of Xbox
>Games being released on PC/Windows 10.

Wat
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>PS4 became popular specifically cause it was just a games console with no gimmicky bullshit
>Now everyone is asking when Sony is gonna unveil some gimmick shit
I guess they could double down on console VR since Microsoft and Nintendo arent doing that.
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>>380563765

>8th/9th gen is a repeat of Wii60

We're going full circle
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>>380563449
>most powerful handheld
Does nintendo even consider the Switch to be a handheld or are they still trying to find a reason to jew people with a new Gameboy?
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>>380562503

They actually did say something like Cross Play Minecraft would encourage pedophelia, right?
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>>380563538
Remember when there was a theory that NX and Scorpio were the same thing?
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>>380562397
>What exactly is Sony doing?
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>>380563765
Getting a Xbox One X for Halo 5 & 6, a New 2DS for Metroid Samus Returns, and Switch for Metroid Dread.
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>>380563449
>project nx
>ninty x xbox
we were too blind to see it
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>>380563898
>PS4 became popular because Microsoft completely botched their Xbox One unveiling
>Sony was planning to do exactly what Microsoft was doing but withheld it
>Won by default
>They've now been becoming more and more anti-consumerist over the course of the generation
>It's now reached where people are now tired of their shit because of what was said in regards to backwards compatibility and crossplay
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>>380563128

>"why would anyone want to play old games"
>Sony announces another remaster of Shadow of the Colossus.
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>>380562397
Article states that Microsoft has lots of exclusives. It doesn't.

Trying to muscle in on Steam is their new goal with the windows 10 shit.
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>dudebro friend said Nintendo and Microsoft were gonna team up to take down Sony
>didn't believe him because he's a dumbass
>he's fucking right
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>Xniggers trying to latch onto Nintendo again
>m-muh wii60

We told you to fuck off the first time.
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>>380563449
might buy a xbox if this is real, will have fun with KI
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>>380564015

>Oh hey! We sold so many already, lets not plan for the future
>Lets fellate ourselves on stage about how popular we are, haha!
>What? You want exclusives? Here have some multiplats and a couple movie games.
>No crossplay for you guys! We do it 4ThePayers#

The consumer doesn't give a fuck about your sales.
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Xbox One X will suffer from the same problems as Wii U. It won't sell because casuals won't know its a new console.
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>>380564136

They should have corrected it to

>Why would you want to play old games?
>Let us remaster/remake them and charge you a full 60 dollars, and consider the remaster a "new" game so we can pad our library.
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I constantly predicted this would happen as a joke and it fucking did. XD
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>>380562397
Well Microsoft didn't really offer a unified neutral account like Capcom and Psyonix did with SFV and Rocket League, Microsoft wanted PSN users make a Xbox account which Sony refuse because it will pad Microsoft's user base pool which will MS look good and Sony's investors don't want that. Nintendo on the other hand doesn't have a problem with because they don't really have the same numbers as Sony does and they don't want to shoulder the server cost

If Sony offered the same I'm pretty sure Microsoft will also refuse too.
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>>380563449
>yfw this bundle is real
>yfw Japan gets it too
>X-Box finally gets a foot hold in Japan by riding on the back of the Switch
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>>380563057
>Covies and space pirates working together
>Awful Flood/Metroid bio experiments
>Cortana NTRs the chief with Samus
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>>380564347
>XD
please leave
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>>380563538
>>380564118
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>>380564280
With Microsoft's marketing I don't know. I didn't think the Xbone S would sell well but it did.
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>want to trade in Xbox One in for an S because it's fucking huge and i really like how the S looks
>here comes the X
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>>380564230

Holy shit how mad can one person be?

I mean one would think that with a brain damage that severe you would be at least more serene.
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>>380563978
Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully.

It doesn't seem to be a problem for Nintendo, perhaps the most mindful video game company of the protection of children.
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>>380564423
YES, GF and UNSC become bros fighting the scourges of space.
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>>380564534
Don't support anti-consumerism, anon.
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>>380564423
>NTR
Disgusting. Samus is made for Chief's augmented dong
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>cross play with the Switch
So what, like they only get Minecraft?
fucking kek
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>>380563057
(and doom)
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Name the last time you played through an old Xbox, ps2 or n64 game without getting bored. Or even something that came out 4 years ago.
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>>380564561
This guy is so full of shit, lol.
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>>380564648
also Rocket League and probably other indie games
maybe those sports games too
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>>380562708
Sony had a bunch of games come out this year alone that kick the shit out of post 2009 xbox
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>>380563526
So does the PS4. Stop spreading misiniformation.
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>>380564505
Is this anything to really be upset about, now you can probably get 200 bucks off that 499 price tag, which was probably what Microsoft was going for, that and maybe PS4 owners trading in their console and games for the X instead of the PS4 Pro
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>>380564534

I own a PS4. You really shouldn't be so attached to Sony. Sony doesn't love you. Nintendo doesn't love you. Xbox doesn't love you. They just love your money. I won't continue to patronize Sony if they keep being anti-consumer.
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>>380564701
Devil May Cry is always fun
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>>380564701
smt nocturne
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>>380563538
>>380564118
What the fuck?!
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>>380564673
Can the Master Chief and Samus Aran survive the power of argent energy find out next time on Doom X Halo X Metroid.
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>>380564701
Halo CE and Halo 2 campaigns about a month ago. The Library and Sacred Icon get too much hate
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>>380564783
>X
>not Xbonx

hmmmmm
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>>380564773
That'll be 20 bucks per PS2 game and 59.99 for a PSNow subscription to play the games worse than a ps3 would.
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The only instance where giving Microsoft money was acceptable is if you bought an intellimouse.

Any time other than that and you fucked up m
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>>380564230

you act as if M$ or Nintendo are doing any better in exclusives(and in Nintendo's case, crippled in the 3rd party market)
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>>380564783
not really. But i can only get $100 off the original xbox one
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>>380564534
He is 100% correct though. It makes no fucking difference to us how many consoles Sony sells if they can't deliver good games and services. You think the Wii was the best console ever too?
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>>380564773
>he thinks PlayStation now counts as backwards compatibility

t. Delusional sony shill
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>>380562397
>What exactly is Sony doing?
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Reminder that for the first 4 years of the xbone's life, all it had was MCC, and zelda charged $60 for zelda ports that ran worse than the GC versions. Remasters are only bad when sony does them
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>>380564934
the surface pro is pretty great if you're an artist
but it's still to expensive for my tastes
until a decent drawing pads with screens are $200-300 i'll stick to my 10 year old wacom
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>>380565007
Hey , the Wii was fun. If you had a PS3 or 360, it was a good compliment
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>>380564919
>>380565051
No. You take your PS3 game and play it on the PS4. Not fucking difficulty to understand when you have brain damage, you faggots.
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switch/pc/ps4 master race reporting in

there's literally no reason to get an xbox console unless you have some form of mental illness
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>>380565095
Yeah and remember how the PS3 launched
That was then my dude, we're talking about now
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>>380565136
Sure. I love some of the games on the Wii, but it had almost no fucking games worth owning and died off really fast. The last two years was a drought.
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>>380563449
Man, the XbOX is fucking tiny.
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>>380565051
Go put a ps3 game in your ps4 right now and upload a video with a timestamp. If im wrong ill an hero on stream. Shut the fuck up you brain dead child
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>>380562397
Releasing games.
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>>380565139
You literally cannot do that.
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>>380565139
>blatantly lying
Ok
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>>380563449
Because I did it in a rush I just noticed I wrote GameSpot instad of GameStop. Shit.
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Anything other than ps4 and pc is retard tier.

You should have stopped playing Nintendo games after n64, had sex or after you turned 18, whichever came first
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>>380563128
same. i was an xboner, but then when scalebound was cancelled, i decided to get a ps4. now that i beat like all 3 games worth playing, there's jack shit to do on it. now sony is becoming arrogant and MS is becoming based again. fuck.
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You kind of have to start pushing for a service as a platform after the competition completely annihilate you in hardware sales.

Sony doesn't need cross play. They have a big enough ecosystem on their own without having to deal with all of the management bullshit.
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>>380565257
I'd say the Wii had at least 50 games worth playing on it by the end of its life. Though you are right that the last few years were a drought with only games like The Last Story that were fun but didn't appeal to casuals being released
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>>380564567
>This is a Mark 2488 Magnetic Accelerator Cannon. Any of you Feds know how many aliens die when I push this button?
>Not enough?
>Damn right.
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>>380565197
Journalists need to invent a new narrative to drive clicks.
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>>380565139
>>380565351
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>>380565197
I think people care more about the prospect of it setting a precedent. Future multiplats having crossplay would be great.
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>>380565139
>>380565351
stop
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>>380565197

Personally no

But the kids will. /v/ seems to completely forget that the video game market tries to appeal to children. I remember being in my teens, only having money for one console, PS3 or 360, and having to pick between the two. A couple friends on one, and a couple on the other. It sucks to have to pick, and not be able to play with your friends. Crossplay is great in that regard.
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>>380565478
Never sell your system, at least not for a console in the same generation. Just save up and have both, worst case scenario you have the other system in a box, but you'll always have it.

Scalebound being cancelled was a kick in the nuts though.
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>>380565139
Are you actually.retarded my man
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>>380564701
Recently replayed Okami and God Hand. Would play Ninja Gaiden right now if I had it.
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>>380563303
>disliking the shitty company that introduced paid online the least
KYS
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>>380565197
It's a thinly veiled Microsoft shilling thread, they flood the board every E3 because the Xbone is a failure of a system with literally no reason to own it. Microsoft has somehow made a console as worthless as the Virtual Boy, literally nobody is going to remember the Xbone in the future because it somehow has no exclusives.
>b-but BC
Buy a 360, it's cheaper
>b-but crossplay for multiplats
Buy a PC, not only is it a straight upgrade to the Xbone but it also has crossplay both PS4 and Xbone
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What happened to Play Anywhere? I remember the shills talking about that a few months ago but nothing this E3. Another gimmick bust?
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>>380563538
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>>380564701
Finished rogue galaxy and wild arms 3 in my ps3, not im planning to buy Star Ocean 3 next. And sony, where the fuck is my star ocean 2 for my ps4?
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>>380565697
i didn't sell the bone but i dont see myself using the ps4 for a long while now. death stranding may be the only upcoming exclusive that interests me and it might be on pc anyway.
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>>380565973
on my ps4*
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>>380563538
W-Wait
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What if the next consoles are just the PlayStation 5 and the Nintendo Xbox? I dunno, the power of an Xbox and the ability to pull in 3rd party, with the first party lineup of Nintendo, that'd be a generation war to top the 4th.
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>>380564280
>Xbox One X

What a stupid name. They couldn't trademark Scorpio or Scorpion with all of their money? Or was it Microsoft's infamous marketing department again?

Windows 7 “launch parties".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
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>>380566370
they though
X
Box
One
X
was clever
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>>380566136
>What if the next consoles are just the PlayStation 5 and the Nintendo Xbox? I dunno, the power of an Xbox and the ability to pull in 3rd party, with the first party lineup of Nintendo, that'd be a generation war to top the 4th.
>Just 2 consoles
>We'd relive a 2-way console war like the glorious 16-bit days.
I'm not into american Xbox games, and yet I kind of want this to happen.

>B-But PC Engine
Fuck off, I love that thing but let's be real, no one bought it.
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>>380562503
This is very alarming to me when you look at what Microsoft is doing in this area.

Nintendo to their credit is doing well right now as well. All 3 are, especially Sony. But idk what Sony's vision is. Xbox we know is moving towards the Steam model. Nintendo is moving towards the mobile market. Sony is doing the same shit they have done for over a decade.

VR is a bust. They have great exclusives. They no longer have the best hardware in the console market. PS now is a bust. It's too early to call if they will suffer from this, but they have big decisions that they will need to make in the very near future.
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>>380566192
Not saying I think this sets a precedent, but I'm pretty confident it's what people happy about this are actually thinking. Honestly, it beats me on what future titles could be crossplay. Probably just pc ports. Square-Enix wants FF XIV on all platforms, but Sony is playing hardball.
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>>380565439
Anon, are you telling me I'll be able to play fucking Mario Odyssey in my xbonex???
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>>380562762
Nintendo is the worst of the worst. How many times have their players had to re-purchase old Mario and Zelda games?. Fucking ridiculous.
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>>380566624
Let's be honest, Sony is living off brand recognition. Yuros and Mexicans love Sony's cock hardcore, especially because of the FIFA overdoze, even though Xbox has it too. It has very strong marketing in those markets as well.
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>>380566719
why would you even buy that shit in the first place? there's nintendo emulators for damn near everything
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>>380566634
>Xbone X gets an original Mario game
>Switch gets either Banjo-Threeie or an original Hahlol
>Alternatively, crossovers.
>Metroid x Halo
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>>380566719
>Had to repurchase
You could just skip rebuying old games you already have on a different platform. You act like because you bought Ogre Battle 64 on the Wii U that Nintendo is forcing you to buy it on the Switch.
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>>380563449
>(using Thor to hide my country).
You're on /v/, idiot. We don't have flags.
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>>380566915
I haven't played a Nintendo game since galaxy. Haven't bought a Nintendo console since gamecube.

I'm talking about the poor duckets who idolize overpriced amiibos and buy their consoles in 2017
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>>380563529
Someone had to make it regardless, Anon. Things do not just appear.
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>>380567043
>Master Chief with accompanying Amiibo for Smash 5
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>>380563538
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>>380566975
Again I haven't bought a Nintendo console since the gamecube. I'm talking about the people who still play the Nintendo brand.

There is no excuse for having to re-purchase games on Virtual console. None. It's a disgrace.
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>>380565507
This needs to happen, also what if the Space Pirates and Covenant merged an Omega Metroid with a Flood Juggernaut (image on the left), an Omega Juggernaut.
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>>380567193
Wouldn't surprise me.
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>>380567193
Finally Master Chief vs Samus, sweat Jesus. It's closer than I thought.
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>>380567208
My DK64 cartridge is in it's last legs and it emulates poorly on PC...
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>>380566624
What matters in the videogame industry is, well, the games.
As long as Sony has a big a diverse pool of studios working for them in delivering quality games, I don't see why they should be worried about the gimmicks of the competition.

However, I do think Sony is in the worst situation right now because they are putting all their eggs in the same basket. I was surprised they didn't announce a successor to the Vita already, or something to compete with the Switch hybrid concept.
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>>380562397
>that great console race thread where a Nintendo and Microsoft cooperation was hinted but considered immersion breaking
>its now a possibility
Oh shit
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>>380563538
WHAT THE FUG
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>>380567336
Just buy a new one
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>>380565442
You ment gamecube not N64 but yes the rest is accurate. (I bought a wiiu for bayo 2 though. No regrets)
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>>380567208
Again, Nintendo is not forcing their consumers to buy VC titles on every Nintendo platform they own, only making them available for people who want them but don't want to pay out the ass for original carts from resellers

And at least according to the Nintendo PR department, with your 20 dollar yearly subscri option to the online service, you get a retro game Netflix style service with added online multiplayer for each title
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>>380567336
I don't have a PC so you can speak about emulation better than I could.

That being said, why can't Nintendo award their fan base who has supported the worst customer service in gaming with back-compat on SNES titles? Just emulate them and give them away for free as a showing of good faith. Aren't they doing some kind of once a month you get a game that you can't play after 30 days shit?
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>>380567371
Games matter yes. But is just games enough?
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>>380563538
>>380564118
I want to be in the screencap
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>>380567371
Having a big pool of developers doesn't matter if nobody buys your games. Less than half of all PS4 owners actually own an exclusive.
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>>380565941
Play Anywhere was their pitch to have all future games run on both Xbox and PC.

They don't have to use that buzzword since you can see all of their 1st party and most of their 3rd party are available on both Xbox and Windows 10.
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>>380567371
A successor to the Vita isn't happening, it just isn't It was a miserable failure, the same reason why the Switch is an entirely different concept as opposed to be a proper successor to the U.

I wonder if we will get another Criminal Girls in 3DS though?
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>>380567627
That's cool but is that worth 20$ dollars? Why do you only get limited access to those games? On PS4 and Microsoft you have access to titles through their online service forever. Nintendo can't do the same?

Your right. No one is forcing you to do anything. But once you buy a game on Virtual console, it should carry over, Like steam, forever.
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>>380568081
You do get them, unless you cancel your subscription. That's literally how it works for PS+ and XLive.
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>>380567759
They changed that. Now it's something more similar to a game pass where you get free access to all their VC titles pretty much
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>>380562397
Bridging the gap between home consoles and the movie theater.
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>>380568180
I didn't know that. Thought it was for 30 days only.
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>>380568275
Sony: "You want games, we've got movies"
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>>380568316
They changed it. Nintendo delayed paid service until 2018 because they're responding to feedback and are changing online because they don't want to fuck things up. I expect bluetooth headphones to probably be added in that service.
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>>380568275
Jesus Christ Sony come on.
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>>380568316
It was but they changed it and other things after considerable backlash.
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>>380563057
It will just get delayed to infinity and instead feature Wario in Halo 6
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>>380568517
Wasn't their some shit going on with their chat setup that had people pissed off?
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>>380567336
How shit do you take care of your cartridges? Wipe the contacts with rubbing alcohol.
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>>380568062
The Vita is only really even surviving off cheaply made anime games and ports of mostly anime games that're also available for the most part on Steam or PS4. With the Switch and the XBOX, Sony can't boast it has the most powerful handheld or the most powerful home consol. I doubt the XBOX will dethrone the PS4 as it is mostly marketed towards people who already own a regular X-Box One looking to upgrade. If it's lucky, it might convert a few people from PS4 or PS4 Pro. But Microsoft at least seems to have a long term strategy in mind and if the Switch sells more units within the next two years than the Vita in its entire lifetime, a lot of the people who support the Vita might just jump over to the Switch
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>>380563449
>>380563538
>>380564403
RIP Sony. Long live Nintendo x Microsoft
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>>380569075
Say Xbone
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>>380568689
I think a lot of that has been confusion mostly over the licensed Splatoon headset from Hori and people thinking that is going to be the standard set up
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>>380569162
Hell yeah, baby!
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>>380562397
>business insider having a fucking clue what they're talking about
I'm not going to comment on whether it's smart or not, but Business Insider doesn't know shit about business, because every time they say something is a bad move, that thing goes on to do phenomenally well. Case in point: Anything related to Apple.

They have about as good of a record regarding business as Bill Kristol does about politics.

In case you are ignorant about Kristol, this man has gone on record, saying:
>"Barack Obama is not going to beat Hillary Clinton in a single Democratic primary. I’ll predict that right now."
>Kristol told Larry King that 1993 would be the “high water mark” of the gay rights movement, and that it was “all downhill from there."
>In October 2008, Kristol urged McCain/Palin to ramp up the Ayers-related attacks against Obama. Less than a week later, Kristol was on TV chiding the GOP for running a “stupid” and “pathetic" campaign because the attacks ”haven’t worked” and the McCain ticket is “doing things that don’t work and they keep doing them." All of this, of course, without once mentioning that he himself had encouraged the ticket to wage those exact attacks.
>"That decade (the 90's) of not policing the world ended with 9/11," he wrote (except for Operation Desert Storm. Or military interventions, missile strikes, and/or bombings in Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, Kosovo, Sudan, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
>"We are tempted to comment, in these last days before the war, on the U.N., and the French, and the Democrats. But the war itself will clarify who was right and who was wrong about weapons of mass destruction," stated on the eve of invading Iraq under Bush Jr.

That's what Business Insider is to business.
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>>380563526
>Backwards compatibility with a console from 3 years earlier is now the game as BC with consoles from the last 20 years
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>>380563538
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>>380569162
>TFW I have a PC so I can enjoy Microsoft games and I have a Switch as well
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>>380569558
No Xbox console has ever had actual BC, just a list of games that MS is ok with their new console emulating when you place a disk inside of it.

Meanwhile, PS2s were fully BC with PS1, and launch PS3s were fully BC with PS2s, and nearly entirely BC with PS1 games. I hate that it isn't included anymore, because it means I need to keep my PS3 working well, AND keep a working DS3 around just to play old games.
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>>380569075
PS4 owners purchasing Switch is no big deal, their libraries don't overlap. Switch won't get Destiny and PS4 won't get Metroid Prime.

That is, if Sony definitely abandon the handeld market to its fate (it will be eaten by smartphones eventually) and focuses on VR and new markets.
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>>380569646
>tfw pc,xbox, and switch

>get to comfy on the couch with my xbros and then head to the office to hang with the peecee bros, and after that can head outside and play with my nintenbros
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>>380566624
>Xbox we know is moving towards the Steam model

That will fail miserably. Microsoft had to give Call of Duty PC players a refund because nobody was on multiplayer.

>But idk what Sony's vision is

Consoles.

>Sony is doing the same shit they have done for over a decade

And they do it very well. Good for them.

>PS now is a bust

Microsoft never learns. Stop counting your chickens before they've hatched.
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>>380565197
They already said they plan to include more cross play as soon as more devs open up
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>>380563128
>Tekken 7 on the PS4
The game is literally unplayable on any platform but PC. I'm not a mustard I'm just saying. The online portion is a mess on consoles, they patched it and it is still shit.
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>>380565478
>>380565697
scalebound was trash. i don't get the hype for it, i never did. It was Donte with a dragon, who cares. Then they showed the gameplay and it looked even worse. Outside of the technical issues that lead to the game's cancellation it was obvious the game was trash that would probably fail hard.
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>>380569646
No you don't. You posting that picture is blatant proof that you're lying.
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Sharing another one. This should be what appears in the home page.
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>>380570478
This
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Is anyone planning to buy a $500 Microsoft XXX?
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>>380570731
Holy shit, even GameStop knows.
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>>380570894
possibly
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>>380570894
I plan to buy it, a Switch, and a New 2DS.
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>>380562397
Sony leads on console sales and exclusives so they're just trying to coast out their money train while their other, non-Playstation divisions fall apart slowly but surely around them. Why bother with backwards compatibility when your install base is dumb enough to rebuy classics digitally or use Playstation Now? Their biggest risk was PS4 Pro and VR ahead of the curb, but consequently the Pro isn't much of any sort of tangible advantage or benefit for most games and an overly expensive piece of shit if you want better framerate in the case of not having a 4k TV. Meanwhile VR has no good exclusives except Resident Evil 7, and that's only by year-long technicality; which is something they're attempting to remedy but not very well.

Sony is sitting on their cards and hoping their broad developer range rakes in the money for them like it has been. The consumer isn't always right in their eyes, which is technically true but they're going to Blizzard-levels of "You think you want it but you don't."
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>>380565873
>Buy a 360, it's cheaper
This is basically the same line Mattrick used that ruined Microsoft. but there are people who buy xbox. pull your head out of your own ass and realize that people have different taste, opinions, preferences, etc. not everybody has or wants a PC and despite sony's big lead in sales there are people who buy xbox every single day even if at a smaller volume. at a certain point you have to realize saying "just buy a PC" is mostly falling on deaf ears. Everyone gets that there's no incentive to buy xbox so if someone comes to the conclusion that they should then just let them.

>>380565197
rocket league and sony are the two that started this. it's not about rocket league and minecraft but what they potentially represent with future games going forward. a dev can make a game now and think about developing with a shared ecosystem in mind. the idea of future games potentially doing more than these two is held back because of sony because for what it's worth crossplay between Sony and Microsoft would potentially feature AAA games.
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>>380570731
is that real?
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>>380570894
Retards.
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>>380570894
I am.
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>>380562397
>What exactly is Sony doing?

Winning
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>>380571581
t. Sonybro
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>Sony is the final boss
>He can only be beaten with a triple tech
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>>380563128
>I hope Xbox's new console sells incredibly well, I see no reason why it won't

Nobody outside of America buys Xbox, nobody.
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>>380571853
Except people in Europe.
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>>380571931
UK Only. Sony has the rest of Europe by the balls.
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>>380571775
t. someone with common sense, Xfag.
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>>380570894
There's more of tangible reason to get it than the PS4 Pro. I was going to upgrade my PC for 2018 and I have a Switch and a 3DS. I have a PS4 and PS3. I still want to keep the PS3, but I'm thinking I might just trade-in the PS4 and games to get money on the One X
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>>380564423
>>Cortana NTRs the chief with Samus
she would have a field day with the Adam AI instead of Samus
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>>380571931
In the US, PS4 is outselling Xbone 2 to 1. In Europe, it's 3 to 1. In Japan, its around 100 to 1. The only place that the Xbone sells is the 3rd world.
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>>380571853
this. hell, MS even tried giving the 360 a bunch of weebshit early on and the japs still wouldn't buy it. pure sonygros, they are.
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>>380570894
waiting for the trade in deals before I pre order it. if the trade ins are balls I can just sale my old bone for 150 to a friend
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>>380571853
NZ here. The only dude I know with a PS4 is a little manlet who gets roasted all the time for it. Everyone else I know has xbones.
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>>380564567
aren't the Galactic Federation the bad guys tho?
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>>380572024
>I might just trade-in the PS4 and games to get money on the One X

How fucking poor are you people?

Or is everyone in here a 14 y/o on an allowance
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>>380572121
Absolutely based
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>>380571981
I mean i don't know what goes on in the empty heads of those soccer hooligans but my understanding was the only reason they even bothered with PS4 at full force is because it was the best place for their annual FIFA dose, again i don't know what rattles inside their heads but if FIFA is all they care about then its a possibility they jump ship.
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>>380572210
>keeping shit around that you won't use
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>>380564892
Sacred icon is underrated (it's still not great or anything though), but the library is litterally cancer
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>>380572121
>t. Hayden from Dargaville

Literally every store I go to has the Cuckbox games at the back, for good reason.
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>>380571981
Good, the less dead languages the better
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>>380572089
I have a bunch of my old consoles that I'm hoping make up for a bulk of the cost when i sell them. I literally have 4 360s and a bunch of other crap that i never touch anymore. may as well sell them for what they're worth and lower my overall cost.
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>>380563128
>>Not much else on the horizon
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>>380570616
If you say so.
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>>380572027

While PS4 sells more, X-Bone has still sold 30+ million units. That's nothing to scoff at. While most of that is North American sales, really the only markets that matter in the gaming industry are pretty much America and Japan. Sony barely is able to beat Nintendo in Japan and that's just cause X-Box has no market there, but with the declining state of home consoles in Japan, much of Sony's lifeblood relies on the American market. If it lost that, it wouldn't really matter if a bunch of Europeans still bought Sony, especially when there's rising competition from PC gaming (an industry Microsoft dominates worldwide).
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>>380571853
also latin America
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>>380572502
>really the only markets that matter in the gaming industry are pretty much America and Japan
That's what M$ and Ninteshit actually think

And that's why the Sony sold double their numbers
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>>380572025
>Master Chief and Samus
>Adam and Cortana
Oh riiight.
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>>380565139
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>>380572137
UNSC has ONI so they're kind of equal.
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>>380572651
i wonder who's Sylux equivalent in Halo
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>>380572210
I'm not gonna pay 500 dollars for a new console I have no compatible games for when I could build a new PC for that much, but if I can trade in stuff I don't use to get 150 or 200 off of that price tag, it might be worth it to get the "most powerful home console ever" to compliment my upgraded gaming PC and my "most powerful handheld"
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>>380572502
They need to double that number in order to match the 360, literally the worst selling console of last gen.
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>>380572807
Arbiter (I really don't want to compare him to Locke)
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>>380562397
Sony is always retarded when they get arrogant. It's only a matter of time before they do something incredibly stupid.
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>>380570894
I am, I'd like to do the midnight launch. Been forever since I was day 1.
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>>380563449
>>380563538
oh shit
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>>380562397
Sony convinces you to buy consoles despite your better judgement and then makes you regret it almost immediately.
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>>380572647
Most of Sony's sales come from North America and Japan. There's no argument to be had here
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>>380572898
Locke is Anthony Higgs

even though he's redeemable in Other M but he's really the least smelly shit of that gay ass Metroid game.
>"ayo hol up princess. you got no style! XDD"
>>
>>380572210
Not him but I only make 23k a year. Add on top of that insurance since Obamacare doubled it (costs $200 a month) and taxes (about $150 a paycheck) and its not much I get to piss around with after my mortgage and bills are paid.
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>>380573259
Are you blind my dude?
Sony - 10.78%
MS - 15.27%
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>>380573259
lol
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>>380572884
PS4 still hasn't even beaten 360 in number of units sold
>>
>>380573231
I'm pretty much a NEET. I have to support my hobbies through pawning stuff, getting government assistance and recycling
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>>380573520
Indeed, but they are on pace to, even if the new gen launches in 2019.
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>>380573451
>>380573509
what did he say?
>>
>>380573656
This
>>Sony higher than Microcuck in the pie graph
>Might want to double check these things before you start your shift, Pajeet.
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>>380570731
how much would it be??
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>>380573656
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>>380574063
kek
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>>380570731
FUCKING GAMESTOP
>>
>xfags still thinking they won over indies and a car

kek
>>
>>380573109
Agreed
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>>380562397
Sony got cocky and is turning into what microsoft was last gen.
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>>380564701
Ar Tonelico 1, gotta play 2 next
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>>380573075
Saved
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>>380562397
Making tons and tons of cash
and becoming the home for VR
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>>380575773
>and becoming the home for VR
lmao enjoy
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Post yfw PS4 has sold more consoles than the last two nintendo consoles combines AND all Xbox one.
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>>380564673
Good idea. Doomguy could watch next to the bed.
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>>380563128
>No PS1 titles on the online store
Thats not true. There are a bunch with trophy support even
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>>380575959
DELETE THIS
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>>380562397
>What exactly is Sony doing?
Drools
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>>380575959
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>>380566624
>They have great exclusives
No that stopped. Hasnt been a thing for over a decade.
This E3 didnt have shit for exclusives on Sony or MS.

Right now Sony only benefits from MS fucking up mega hard with the Xbox One reveal back then.
Thats something that gave them the absolute lead for this gen.

Next gen everything could change again. MS and Sony systems are essentially the same. Last gen both literally sold the same.
Whoever gets ahead will attract most buyers through peer pressure.
Its just marketing at this point and leaving a good impression.
>>
>>380569994
Few years from now, you'll still be able to play all those games you owned from 360 or Xbox One and still be able to play them and own them on Xbox S8. That's sorta what I imagine the vision Xbox is going for at the moment, they're creating a platform.
>>
>>380562660
>progressive sells
Except it's been proven not to. Rather it's catered to for PR out of fear the media will tear you down as "[X]-ist" otherwise.
>>
>>380562762
Sony has always been incredibly anti consumer.
>>
>>380564701
bayonetta 2 was fun as hell anon. that being said ps2 has too many good games to get bored of them
>>
>>380577859
>Launch PS3 will play all PS2 games, almost all PS1 games, blu rays, dvds, CDs (which are also rippable), and will stream a shit ton of audio, video, and photo formats from 4 usb ports, a CF card port, an SD card port, and a memory pro duo. They also didn't use proprietary HDDs, allowing you to install any 2.5 inch SATA that you wanted, initially offered linux support, and gave you completely free online, from day 1 to the present.

The 360 was the least consumer friendly console ever released up to 2013, and is still arguably the least consumer friendly console, as the PS4 and Xbone doesn't put shit like Netflix behind the online paywall.
>>
>>380564561
Phil Spencer seemed like he wanted to call this guy a piece of shit during the GB interview.
>>
>>380578226
They also removed all of those features from the next PS3 models because they wanted to sell you HD ports instead.

They also killed OtherOS even though that was a feature that was advertised back then. Literally patched it out.
Fuck Sony.
>>
>>380562762
>4theplayers
>No backwards compatibility
>Remaster shadow of the colossus again

What is their goal?
>>
>>380562397
selling 60M consoles
>>
>>380578637
MS has a bigger install base now.
>>
>>380562397
Hello shill.

Microsoft wants that because of how bad their losing the console race. If the tables were turned MS would be doing the same shit as sony. But since they are underdog they have to play this game. The fact is no brand that is winning as hard as Sony is is going to cross-platform enable therefore giving up a reason to get their system. (To play with friends who have ps4). Not sure if you're a shill or just stupid.
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>>380578757
kind of convenient to count every w10 slave as a potential player if you ask me
the one is a biggest flop than the first xbox
>>
>>380563449
I would buy this
>>
so Master Chief is going will be in the next super smash right?
>>
MS is desperate so they're doing whatever they can to get on top.
Sony are acting like idiots because they're on top.
Nintendo is Nintendo.
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>>380564403
>Change Forza 7 to monster hunter world
>???
>Dominate Japan and from Soft makes new otogi and mechanical games on xbone and switch
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>>380579107
Agreed. Altbough I don't think sony is being dumb, all they are doing is pushing awesome games. I don't care what microsoft does at this point. Death Stranding is the future of video games.
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>>380579090
I hope I want to have Master Chief vs Samus Aran.
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>>380578226
No more pay wall for 360 netflix, and Sony removed all those features from ps3
>>
>>380563449
>crossplay between these two
>one has ABXY
>switch has BAYX
this triggers me more than it should
>>
>the 2 lesser parties team up to take on the greater party
HAHAHAHHAHAHA wow
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>>380579237
What games exactly?
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>>380579090
this would be pretty fun
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>>380564561
PS4 CONFIRMED PEDO CONSOLE
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>>380579237
It's mostly the hubris.
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>>380579548
Every exclusive released in the last year and every exclusive at this e3 silly
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>>380579514
>Microsoft
>Lesser party
>The same company that owns Windows
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Remember when in 2013 NeoGAF claimed to be all for the consumer and the only reason they were shilling for Sony so hard is because they're for the players? Now that's been proven to be bullshit yet they are shilling harder than ever. Why?
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>>380563449
>Xbone'sBitch
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>>380571983
So not a Sonybro?
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>>380579868
>Remember Microsoft's anti-consumer bullshit
Yup
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>>380579998
Certainly not an Xfag.
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>>380578925
Gotta play with the strengths you have, rather than the weaknesses.

Can't complain. More players means a game is less prone to die. And since Xbox is not that well known in my country this means I can still play Forza with my friends.
>>
I don't quite get what good Sony gets from refusing cross-play. If a game has a larger playerbase on Switch and Xbox combined than on Playstation alone then doesn't that mean there's less reason to get the Playstation version? Am I missing something here?
>>
>>380581124
If one of your friends buys the ps4 version of game and you want to play with him you are forced to also buy it even if you would have prefered the superior xbone x version.
>>
>>380567208
>There is no excuse for having to re-purchase games on Virtual console. None. It's a disgrace.
that is literally for people who dont have the old systems aka children

you done being a retard now?
>>
Wii60
i
i
6
0

I am a Nintentoddler but this new Nintendo x Microshit "partnership" has me all excited.
>>
Would you want Master Chief in Smash
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>>380571853
Italian here, i bought the original Xbox and i have not a single regret, although other than me only an uncle of mine owned it, we discussed Ninja Gaiden every now and then

But then the 360 kinda kicked off more, also because for some reason it's piracy came before the PS3's and, believe it or not, Sony's consoles are usually extremely popular because it's so easy to pirate games among other things. Dunno about the Xbone
>>
>>380583409
No. Banjo ir Conker would fit better.
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>>380579090
Arbiter would be the better contender DESU.

>Final smash
>Glass the stage
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>>380582303
This. It's really a cheap way for Microsoft to excuse their no library
>>
>>380563128
>I hope Xbox's new console sells incredibly well,
Spoiler: it wont
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>>380586526
I think Microsoft is hoping to consolidate their existing market, not so much expand it.
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>>380563936
Officialy not until 3DS is finally dropped. Give it 1.5 years more.
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>>380563538
>N
>X

OHHHHHHHH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>
Funny how people actually thought the German indie dev on Shittersoft's payroll knew anything about what Miyazaki was making.

>The Cuckbox shilling keeps increasing
>The poster count stays the same

Really rumbles my almond
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