http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06 /14/e3-2017-extensive-de

>>380482851
>nerfing rulers because shitters can't handle them

Not a good sign.

>>380482851
>>380483024
They can make the rulers as tough as they want to, just don't give them a turn after every single unit's action. It doesn't even make thematic sense -- what, they all move 6x faster than every other human/alien?

I really, really, really want to be excited for this expansion. Then I remember how XCOM 2's core is designed around timed missions, something unfixable even with all the mods that are out there right now.

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>alien rulers
>hard
Overwatch shot with the repeater perk kept one shooting them.

>>380482851
>They’ll pipe up on the strategy layer or in combat to talk about things that happened on the last mission, such as gloating about capturing a soldier or stating they won’t be as easy to defeat as their sibling

This sounds annoying as fuck. It's already bad enough when the Elders nag you on the final mission and you have to spend several seconds waiting for them to shut the fuck up.

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>shitters STILL whining over timers.

>>380483024
It's not that big of a nerf though. They're just letting you activate each ruler one by one and they no longer get a free reaction when you reload your gun or use a buffing ability like Run and Gun.

>>380484032

Being able to kill rulers/Avatars with repeaters is near-cheating and I hope they'll patch it out with the expansion.

>ADVENT rebels

Finally

>>380482851
So now that the commander is an actual ingame character, how long until we got romance systems put into the game?

>>380483765
>something unfixable, even with mods
>one of the first mods ever released was "Remove Timers"
If you're this retarded, I can see why you had trouble.

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>>380485216
>how long until we got romance systems put into the game?
August 29th.

>>380482851
I'm guessing the giant robot that isn't Terminator still can't use cover? That's understandable, and being able to mod your guns is cool. What about PCSs? Can they use them now?

>new ending cinematic
Something to look forward to, I guess.

How do I even play XCOM on difficulty normal and higher. That game is so fucking hard and full of LOL RANDUMB moments it makes me mad when you lose all progres..

>>380485030
Xcom 2 has a lot of shit that just shatters the balance.

Vanilla Grenadiers and repeaters. Meme beacons at one time. Also Psonics.

Its definitely worse balance than 1 even though I love both about equally.

>>380482851
>LOST to stop grenade spam cheese
>Missions where LOST are purged by advent purifiers like its a fucking space hulk game.
>Spark buffs and battle fatigue are official
>>380484671
Thats still pretty noticeable, at least 4 extra actions lost. Plus the bigger thing is you have to raid the facility they individually guard before they spook you on missions, meaning you have even more time to prepare.
>>380485076
THIS.
>>380484032
Repeater is probably the dirtiest cheese I've seen.

All we need are SHIVS back and maybe a special mission with EXALT surviviors still around (even though it was confirmed that some of your recruits in xcom2 were originally exalt hence the bandannas) and its golden.

>>380485879
Savescumming. Or playing through the game a couple of times until you know every single system by heart and can plan your tactics accordingly. I chose savescumming

haven't played XCOM 2 yet, will this expansion make the game worth playing?

>>380482851
i bought the game at release with the season pass, will i get this dlc as well?

>>380485642
>Soldier bonds
>One of them dies
>Bad shit happens to the other

I know it'll probably just be nothing at all and shaken at best, but I love these little rp mechanics they've added to xcom

>>380486161
I mean on Iron Man, I finished both games (well technically I didn't finish first nu-XCOM so I could play forever) but it just gets so unfair and hard later in the game that I can't imagine beating it on Iron Man Commander. Just... HOW?

>>380485879
You need to think dirty and plan ahead, simply running and gunning wont save you. You need to make sure the aliens dont get a fair fight.

>>380485879
You get screwed over by the randomness because you made bad decisions. It's all about learning how to make safe strategies that don't cause deaths just because you missed some shots.

>>380486468
>cheese most of times
>suddenly get spotted because of one fucking lancer
>get surrounded by ADVENT MECs and 2 lancers that just fuck my shit up

>>380486180
>will this expansion make the game worth playing?

How could anyone know that when it's not released? Also XCOM 2 is already worth playing.

>>380483024
Rulers are fucking shit and add nothing fun to the game.

>>380485336
>remove the timers
>now every mission is a cakewalk with suicidal AI that leaves good heavy cover positions to charge into your overwatch

Thanks, anon!

>>380486762

Saying rulers are unfun is different than saying rulers are unfair (they aren't).

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I hurt myself today... I gotta git gud.

I just can't manage my soldiers and research at once. Last time I played I just completely fucked settlement rescuement mission baah I hate this game.

>>380486180
It's already pretty fuckin good, just go play it nigga.

>>380486843

Get ABA2. It alters the AI so it doesn't do things like move from full-cover to partial when it doesn't need to.

So this game is finally worth buying? thank god.

>>380485879
Redundancy.

Is your whole plan relying on one 80% shot? It's a shit plan. Have two 80% shots you can spare

Always blue move. Only yellow when you're absolutely sure there are no aliens.

Pull only one pod at a time and always plan to OTK everything. A good xcom player never gives the enemy a chance to shoot. This isnt og com, you dont have expendable rookies nor fuck-everything levels of rockets.

Always invest in damage weapons first and items second. Armor is important, but equipment can fill squad weaknesses.

Always prep your squad to have an answer for cover hugging aliens, melee mobs, and elite aliens.

Dont be afraid to lose anyone.

After this, you've mastered this you shouldn't feel the need to ever save-scum.

>>380486991
It was worth buying even on release.

>>380484032
that sort of mechanical abuse makes you soooooo hardcore right?

I'm not dumb enough to buy a DLC that force me to put repeater on most of my dudes

>>380487083
>tfw got the game for some random anon at release

Godspeed you beautiful bastard

>>380486180
Xcom 2 is already worth playing.

>>380487242
I've meant to say from, that changes everything.

>>380485879
The game gives you a metric shitton of guaranteed damage attacks, from grenades to flaking shotgun attacks, to drones, etc. Use them. Obliterate pods on the turn you activate them.

The perfect solution to timers is the mod that makes them only start ticking down when you go out of concealment.

>>380486615
>Lancers

Flashbangs. Use and abuse flashbangs.

>>380486294
I beat it on ironman commander and am working on legendary. You just need to understand the mechanics and abuse them.
Don't uncover new LoS unless you want to trigger another pod of enemies. ALWAYS use full cover. If you have no choice but to put a guy in half cover, hunker him down. The best way to play is to kill a pod of enemies before they even get to attack you

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>>380487168
Only my overwatch monkey has the repeater I just got lucky with RNG.

>>380487913
this is hot is there any advent porn

>>380487598
Fun fact, that was the original plan, but playtesters would be incredibly hesitant to start the engagement as new players and found it unfun.

Can we talk about how fucking boring ADVENT is to fight?
A good 80% of the enemies you fight against are ADVENT soldiers that hardly feel alien. Compare this to XCOM EU where you start fighting sectoids and thin men right off the bat, they're both far more interesting design wise and gameplay wise. Aliens were reduced to 'tough' enemies instead of being the focus.

This was the biggest thing that just left a stale taste in my mouth after playing through it. I wasn't excited to play missions by the end of the campaign because I knew there would still be boring ADVENT everywhere.
Also, the soundtrack was garbage and the game boiled down to "kill the pod on the turn you reveal it" even more so than XCOM EU.

>>380483535
>they all move 6x faster than every other human/alien
Even that doesn't make sense if you try to apply logic to it. Your soldier doesn't just move individually while the rest of the squad waits.

It's just a shit mechanic and let's leave it at that.

>>380488447

Thats because kill the pod will always be the most objective answer to any tbs game. Why ever risk them retaliating?
I agree though i felt aliens being the actual threats felt better. Sectoids just were rediculously goofy after the first few missions in EU.

>>380488447
I completely agree, only good enemies were andromedon and gatekeeper.

one-turn-killing all enemies isn't even a fun way to play the game

I thought the soundtrack was ok thought, that mission successful-tune is nice to hear

>>380488447
Sectoids and Thin Men just used their turn to shoot at you like regular soldiers 90% of the time. Now sectoids and sneks use their actual alien abilities on their turns 90% of the time, BECAUSE the "shoot at your dudes" enemy is its own archetype. I found XCOM 2 made the aliens feel more alien because they COULD add the soldiers

I did miss the Deus-Esque (heh) soundtrack from EU though

>>380489108
>encountering Codex for first time

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>>380482851
>reboot X-Com
>it's amazing
>make expansion
>it's about fighting fucking humans
>make a sequel
>half of it is about fighting fucking humans
>make an expansion to the sequel
>introduces human npcs vs human npcs
ENOUGH OF THIS FUCKING SHIT GIMME AYYS

>>380489663
man, EXALT was fucking fun to fight.

>>380489108
The deployment theme was great too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o55lI6j-hZw

>>380489896
>face EXALT for first time
>get wiped
>cry on /v/
>try again
>realise they're extremely easy
>breeze through all EXALT missions like it's 1940

>>380489663
Did you pay any attention to the story of either of those.

>>380489997
It's not Michael McCann but the soundtrack was very good.

>>380490130
Yes and I don't care why I'm fighting humans, I don't want to fight humans in an X-Com game.

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>>380490375

>>380483535
I thought it was a pretty cool way of mechanically communicating how you were suddenly fighting 2 battles.

>>380490375
Exalt is humans, sure but they were an added slice ontop of the big alien pile, Advent unlike Exalt are not human. For fucks sake they bleed orange you retard, the term you're looking for is "humanoid" and there's still plenty of aliens with humanoid infantry backing them up.

>>380490060
yeah you just mow them down with explosives until they got no cover, they keep flooding onto the map like cockroaches ready to get squashed

>>380490772
who gives a shit what they are called, they're basicly humans with a new language and blood color. it's shit design

>>380489663

Funny thing for me is I am a pleb and like my spess mehreen baldman alien foes. I love fighting mutons, advent just doesn't have the same impact. I don't need super eldritch aliens just gimme Mechtoids and mutons and I am happy.

>>380489295
Everyone misses that soundtrack.

But I agree. Sectoids in EU are even more inefficient than 2's sectoids because of their stupid two for one mind meld that they screw themselves with.

No enemy in 2 will match the absolute cockheadness of the thin man. You either have him snipe you out of full cover (which happens way too much) or he'll be a bitch and poison you.

One turn killing has always been the optimal strat though. I dont know why I see some people saying Xcom 1 was balanced around you killing 2 aliens a turn. If you weren't a scrub, 9/10 pods you'd OTK. The minority you didnt was because of stupid mistakes.

>>380490772
>Advent unlike Exalt are not human
They are though. They are literally humans infused with alien DNA.

But hey you would have to play the game to find that out and this is /v/.

>>380491142
It's because people play on normal where they don't actually have to strategize, they can just take random shots and eventually win. So they don't realize that EU is just as reliant on OTK as 2 is

>>380491002
I like it. Killing alien sympathizers was new and I liked it.

If they just made EU again, I think it'd probably end up feeling like playing TFD again.

>>380491006
Exactly. Mutons are fine, Advent is just a generic cyberpunk human soldier by another name. Exalt wasn't exactly thrilling but it was also better than Advent.

>>380482851
>buying non-expansion pack DLC
ew

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>>380489997
> tfw you're gearing up your worst troops for a suicide mission, because all the best troops are wounded

This better fucking be part of Season Pass

>>380491670

The reinforcement pack isn't even called a season pass and lists exactly what it's giving you.

>>380491670
Nigger, read the Reinforcement Packs description. You're not entitled to $30 expansion when you buy a DLC pass

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>>380491573
>When you know the campaign is over because you have 10 hours left on the doomsday clock and all of your soldiers are wounded for 29 days
>You decide to send a squad of rookies at an advent project research center anyway, because "you never know!"
>They get absolutely slaughtered

>>380491670
Hahahaha

Look at this faggot and laugh.

>>380491525
I would say that high difficulty Xcom EU is absolutely vital for you OTK.

Leaving a muton pack to shoot or a (god forbid) a thin man to do whatever is a soldier-killing mistake

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>>380491002
>bad design
It fits in with the entire theme of the game though, they were specifically made to be mass produced human-like grunts with 100% loyalty to quell civil unrest since not everyone's a radicalized insurgent willing to kill other humans.
>>380491408
That's not human retard it's a genetic hybrid with humanities traits being only their stature and mouths, may as well call fucking sectoids human since they spliced our DNA in as well.

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I will always be disappointed that XCOM 2 didn't give us the full terrorist experience.

I didn't expect it to, but capturing VIPs so that you can broadcast them reading off a statement and then being beheaded would have been fun.

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>>380482851
The SPARKS are boring shit because they are not crippled soldiers inside an exoskeleton but it's up to you I guess
Now, the Rulers DLC? Depends whether you would wear this

>>380491142

I fucking hated vanilla poison so that is one thing LW did right with "it only impacts you if you move or take an action"

>>380491557

To some extent it was unavoidable, the same way people would be mad at Apocalypse or TFTD replacing the foes from Xcom 94. But I think it could have been fixed by perhaps a mid game campaign switchup whereby after you strike at their main cloning facility they start to field more mutons and the like.

I wish I knew how to rig stuff or was familiar with the unreal modding system because I'd love to just port over Xcom1 Mutons and mechtoids. I also am surprised nobody has done 40k armor yet

>>380492013
>Play LW2 on launch
>get reinforcement dark event
>Suddenly an extremely light mission becomes a 36 alien fuckfest with mutons, vipers, and elite advent pods warping in.

My computer can barely even start XCOM 2. Was thinking about getting an Intel Core i3 6100 3,7GHz and Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI, but apparently those are dated as fuck too.

>>380492292
Remove the head piece, use a fitting camo and more down to earth coloring and it looks fine

>>380492013
> Playing LW2
> Game is fuck
> Decide to throw 12 rookies at the enemy
> Somehow they pull it off, with only 10 dead

>>380492293
>Mid game switch up.

Yea the new aliens and enemies introduced quickly made the game still fun to me. But transitioning to full alien packs with Advent support (thinking shield bearers and officers) would've been fun to me.

I like that they embraced modding. It has made me like Xcom 2 way more than I would've had the modding been more limited.

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While advent were orginally humans, the pricess in order to make them makes Advent much closer to sectoids then humans. Its just the armour.
They are manufactured and brainwashed ground up in factories. You take one look at thier face underneath the armour and its easy to see they are more alien than human.

In EU the elders explain every race each enemy used to be and how they radically altered them to suit thier needs. ADVENT is just what they planned for us.

>>380492408
Go for EW + Long War + other QOL mods then

It's not XCOM 2, but the experience it'll get you will be unforgettable. It's been 3 fucking years since I've touched that thing and I still remember some of the operations in full detail that I had to do because of how big the clusterfuck escalated into

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>>380492609
Yeah that would make the MMO shoulderpads work
Now how about this one anon?

>>380492013
>Play LW2
>Stun lancer charges arent fixed
>Get a map where I have to extract and bring back a scientist
>See map
>Plan
>Realize that every turn except for one I have to yellow move

LW2 was pretty shit when it launched. Did it get better?

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>>380492292
>>380492609
Yeah, viper armor is passable with the samurai mask and olive green/pale orange camo.

>>380489663
>>reboot X-Com
>>it's amazing
lmao

>>380492841
>ADVENT is just what they planned for us.

No, that's Avatars. ADVENT is just used to pacify humans and would've been discarded eventually once the ruse was no longer needed.

>>380493023
Download this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763045721

>>380493205
>Remake xcom
>It has no charm

God damnit, xenonauts.

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>>380493236
>>380493023
Like this

>>380493093
It's better, current version is 1.4 and it's pretty solid. Magnificent design is still present, but it wouldn't be a LW mod without some right?

>>380491670
>This $30 (or even more expensive) expansion better fucking be part of an unrelated $20 DLC collection that includes $25 worth of DLC already and lists exactly what it contains
Jesus Christ

>>380493023
It would be fine with some mouth cover.

>>380493218
Agreed, considering thier/our versatility they would probably keep a small force of advent bodyguards around for future planetary invasions, considering how easy it was to mass produce them.

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>>380493236
I did, at the end the only armor I somewhat liked was this one, the weapons were shit too with the exception of the axe

>>380486843
>its okay for the ai to be retarded as long as there is time limit

How about make the ai not shit and add mechanics to the game that allow you to gain or lose more time in missions depending on actions/objectives/upgrades?

>>380493331
>remake xcom
>but state you don't want to remake it 1:1
>make the AI constantly cheat
>turn mid game into a phone game air control simulator
>don't bother to make basic shit like ability to see up or down staircases so if an enemy sits on one they can just blast your ass
>make half of your gear useless
>make your art style clash and everything but the research art awful
The only thing I liked from that turd was shields and the research art.

>>380492293
TFTD aliens were more or less the same, so the complaint with them was it was just lazy.

Also kinda more fucked. Lobstermen shit on Muton's in every conceivable way, Tentaculats are literally Chrysalids that fly, Bio-drone's are compact Cyberdiscs on steroids.

Terror from the deep is fucked up.

Where's the story going at this point? I didn't really grasp much from the trailer. Is there another race of big-bads threatening humanity or the previous aliens encountered.

>>380486102
I agree its really shaping up. However I hate sparks. I wish we had our cool cyber soldiers back instead.

>>380494083
Chosen are Ethereals champions. They're all competing with one another to be the first to eliminate XCOM because the Ethereals have promised whoever does it gets to rule over Earth while they continue their intergalactic invasion

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Bring out your DEAD!

>>380494083
Three other resistance factions with their own little gimmicks, one being gorilla warfare with zombies, one being genetically modified humans (probably our favorite girl behind it) and the other being psionic cultists.
The elders send 3 probably prototype avatars after you to fuck with your game, their goal isn't so much as to immediately kill your soldiers as to stun and interrogate to attack your main base.

>>380494083
presumably it's going to add content somewhere along the base game like alien hunters/shen's gift

Did they ever fix the god awful loading times with the PS4 version? That shit was even worse than the PS3 version of enemy unknown

>>380494551
Did you win at least?

>>380494850
I dont know because I havent met anyone who played xcom on the consoles.

>>380494083
>>380494487
The chosen are specifically tasked with recapturing the commander like some ayy 007.
Plus the chosen are so hated by local resistance that each of the three has thier own cult of humans dedicated to taking that specific chosen member out.
All the LOST souls who got consumed by the abduction pods in eu are coming back as a zombie horde plaguing advent and xcom alike.

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>>380488447
I love the game mechanically and all the things theyve added. But I hate the core concept. The whole resistence angle is super boring and contrived to me. I loved the secret government funded multinational unilateral stormtroopers of XCOM. The rag tag rebel shit bores me to tears.

Still love XCOM2. Just hate they went down that path. Because you can never come back from that without a reboot.

>>380495284
>All the LOST souls who got consumed by the abduction pods in eu are coming back as a zombie horde plaguing advent and xcom alike.
That's pretty cool. I take it the resistant groups fucked with the processing plants for the corpses and now it's a giant headache everyone has to deal with? Does that mean they'll be aggressive to both sides mid-battle?

>>380495509
Yeah Lost are a third party, attack both XCOM and ADVENT

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>>380494996
Nope! Heres a sneak peak at what happens when you take rookies against an ayyy supply ship because its your first LW game and you didnt know.

>>380495412
LW2 actually adds in strategy-layer mechanics that make it feel much more like a resistance. As someone who hated the original LW, I find LW2 to be really quite fun.

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>>380495412
To expand on this post. This is why I have to use mods that add more traditional armor. I also HEAVILY regret my season pass because if I could choose to not download Anarchy's children I would do it immediately. It clutters up my uniform options and every piece except for one pair of pants and one mask is complete meme tier shit to me.

>>380496128
The issue with LW2 is it was balanced around a set of autismos who specifically looked for means to cheese the game; so you get this super unfun mess that discourages combat with the best way to do every mission by never actually engaging in combat.
Unless it's changed drastically since release it's just unfun, even beagle the man who loved LW1 thinks LW2 is way too overtuned with their retarded "even if you play perfectly only 50% of games should be won" balancing.

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>>380496480
Untick the box next to Anarchy's Children

>>380493974

I'm not sure if I'd rather see a TFTD for Xcom3 or Space in Xcom3 - think less high faluting star wars space and more Aliens/Xenomorph kinda space - humanity starts to expand not with T3 hijacked alien tech but with stuff we've cobbled together. That way you can have space walks with the 3d element of no gravity but also standard fighting.

On the one hand TFTD has a lot but on the other limiting to just underwater (or stuff outside of it but which you fight largely the same enemies largely the same way) is very niche. And Phoenix is already doing the body horror flesh-shapers angle (and could end up doing underwater as DLC).

>>380495412

I can respect the attempt at something new given the alternative is just repeating Xcom 94/2012 over and over. I'm not sure if I like the cyberpunk resistance approach compared to if we had gotten cyberpunk corporation approach of Apocalypse. But maybe I would have been butthurt about that instead.

>>380496672

I haven't done LW2 but I feel like all I want is the infiltration mechanic, otherwise the rest can bugger off.

>>380496480
You can uninstall Anarchys children by right clicking xc2 in steam and unchecking the DLC.

>>380496672
>Unless it's changed drastically since release
It has from what I can tell. 1.4 seems to be pretty good but I don't know if it'll change enough for you personally

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>>380496705
>>380496819
Good christ, I never fucking knew you could do that. Thank you lads so much.

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>>380495509
No actually the ayys planned the lost all along, but it clearly got out of hand due to underestimating just how dense human population is.
The Ghiest resistance team are used to fighting in the abandoned cities where the majority of the lost are, its the reason they are all clad in stalker-esque gas masks.
While youre playing rambo and guerrilla freedom fighter, ghiest were left 4 dead

The Konstantine Templars on the other hand are so used to having to deal with the warlock chosen and advent priests that they believe the need to not only purge the xenos physically but psionically. They are basically xcoms equivalent to 40ks black templars.

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>>380496480
>and every piece except for one pair of pants and one mask is complete meme tier shit to me.
I hope you're talking about the Knight's Helm, because that thing looks absolutely goat with a mouth cover

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>>380496763
I would have much prefered Apocalypse style. corrupt Mega Corps, cyberpunk enhancements, crazier and crazier Ayyy tech.

Xcom facing a battle against Ayys but also the machinations of the mega corporations, pro alien cultist, Xcom stretched to the limit having to do everything it can to fight off the cults, the ayys, mega corp black op units trying to steal tech for themselves, politiking between the government, corps, religious organizations.

God it would have been glorious. Guess it could sort of kind of still happen if Xcom3 was set like 100 years later.

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>>380497631
Sorry lad, dont care for it. Im talking about whats on my trooper on the far right of this picture.

>>380496480

Just make a mod that disables all AC content you don't want. It's what I did to remove those weird pigtail options.

>>380483024
I stopped playing xcom when I hit the first ruler. Shit is not fun in any way shape or form

>>380497985
Doesn't Apocalypse also give you the option to basically become a rogue organization and operate way beyond your supposed mandate if you just keep raidaing corporate facilities for the resources you need to continue operating? It would be an interesting direction for the new games to go to, the whole organization becoming an army of knight templars who don't care about the Council's pennycounting and just straight up goes off the grid and starts fighting both the ayyliums and Earth's governments.

It wouldn't work for the current game, but I would like something like that implemented into the next one.

>>380498793
If you don't think bladestorming and stunning the zerker queen is fun I think you should plan your actions better my dude

>>380499424
One issue with rulers is you need stuns to fight them efficiently because the retards at firaxis built the game about action economy then decided to completely fuck it up

>>380494863
>Missed!

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>>380499424
>when you throw a weeb axe-throwing shinobi girl against the Berserker Ruler at full HP and after a couple moves it's the Berserker who is pitifully trying to run away
>And it can't.

>>380485030
The rulers are "These rocks aren't hard enough" tier.

>>380490659
>What's the Cult
Are you sirius?

>>380492229
>That's not human retard it's a genetic hybrid with humanities traits being only their stature and mouths, may as well call fucking sectoids human since they spliced our DNA in as well.

I guess that means injecting meld into your operatives no longer makes you human and in fact you played as aliens in the first game.

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>Just beat X:EW yesterday
>Start playing X:EU today
>Playing with Better Advent + Increased starting squad with upgradeable to 8
>Go into early mission with four recruits and my new sniper
>Only the sniper and one recruit made it out
XCOM is cruel

>>380483024
Rulers were a shit way to up difficulty. The fact that they appear in random missions and have a ton of HP shoulda been enough to serve their purpose of throwing a wrench in your plans, instead they gave them that turn after all your individual actions.

You know what the worst part of that DLC is? They WEREN'T hard. You know why? Because the game gives you FOR FREE a buncha retarded super weapons to kill them and super armor for killing them, which trivializes the rest of the game. Any semblance of balance and difficulty curve was completely thrown out.

>>380500598

ADVENT soldiers are explicitly not made from existing humans, did you even play the game?

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>>380500850
pic related

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>>380498337
I like to give my base units really simple tactical looking shit, and then as they go up in rank, I introduce more and more unique customization options

Also all rookies wear helmets until they've survived a few missions.

>>380500598
Actually, yes, that's exactly what it means.
but their modifications weren't completely different physiology's like advent either. If a caterpillar turns into a butterfly is it still a caterpillar?

>>380494551
>aidan wallace

th-that's my name...

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>>380501202
Mission accomplished, well done lads

>>380501052
>Not made from humans.
>Look like humans.

Really makes you think.

>>380501629
They're aliens with human DLC spliced in. Not humans.

>>380501629
are all statues human now
how about all anime characters and figmas

>>380500964
>Because the game gives you FOR FREE a buncha retarded super weapons to kill them and super armor for killing them, which trivializes the rest of the game.

Yes, this is the problem. Not that the rulers are "cheating" with their free turns.

>>380501445
>Iori
>Detective
MORE LIKE

>>380489663
this
where my aliums at

>Can make any kind of alien thanks to videogames. Only imagination is the limit!
>They are humans with shark teet and blue skin.
Thanks Jake

>>380502238

Blue shark-teethed humans are sexy.

>>380501770
Being sliced with human DNA outright states "Made from humans".

>>380501838
>Organic material is the same as rocks and drawings
Wew lad.

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>>380501968

>>380502881
> That brazen confidence
Truly humanity's finest. A proud addition to the main XCOM strike team.

>>380501317

That's xcom baby

>>380501317
No ghostposting allowed.

>>380502881
>that horrible stretching
Brings the whole image together, really.

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>>380491573

>>380501296
THIS. Rookies don't get to have a face until they prove themselves.

>>380482851
anyone else miss the time when xcom was about conspiracy theories in modern earth and not this edgy anime "resistance" bullshit

>>380502686
We share DNA with a lot of species on earth. Does that make us them too? No. Because they're not human. The term you're still looking for is humanoid you ape.

What do we know about that Lovecraft XCOM game? What was it called? Phoenix Point?

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>>380498913
Basically yes, eventually you get so powerful you can say "Hey you know all those rules, regulations, and demands you guys got? Fuck you, we're XCOM."

And then you proceed to do what you must, because you can.

>>380505095
Literally a copy of nu excom. Only with targetable limbs and much better art style, with worse animations though.

>>380505095
>""""""estimated""""" delivery is 2019

Don't care until it's actually near release.

>>380505787
2030 rather, they don't even have ballistics yet.

>>380500598
>I guess that means injecting meld into your operatives no longer makes you human
>"Those who play with the devil's toys will be brought by degrees to wield his sword." - R. Buckminster

So, did you miss the entire thematic point of the expansion?

>>380482851
>Rulers nerfed
So i told firaxis to appeal to people bad at the game
they actually did it the absolute madmen

>>380482851
Is the game good now? I played it in launch but it had terrible performance and lots of bugs back then

>>380506081
They were a boring slog. Waste of resources, just like the other dlcs.

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I bought the deluxe version with season pass included, and never even bothered to try any of the DLCs because they all looked unappealing as fuck.
I hope this new DLC is Enemy Within tier.

>>380488315
Playtesters ruin everything yet again!

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you all made snake, right?

>>380504759
The problem with that Mr. dna major is that they don't resemble frogs, or deer, or any other animal, they resemble humans since they had human dna spliced into them.

We don't "share" dna with animals, we have dna that resembles theirs to a point, they're all still distinctly different.

The aliens literally grabbed specifically human dna and made Advent.

>>380506007
The point is kinda lost what with Shen being so nonchalant about the whole ordeal.

>>380506502
Size wise its meant to be 3x as big as EW

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>>380485076
>Hissy may finally be canon
About damn time, too.

>>380507728
What part of ADVENT did you miss?

>Finish XCOM2
>That was pretty good bit easy though, EW was better
>Come back to it with LW2 mod and Shit tons of voice packs and armour mods

I can't believe what I've yearned for all these years was a Halo TBS game

>>380488315
LW2 wins again!

>>380508118
>using any of the Halo armor
Come on, familam.

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>>380507210
>The more I see, the more I don't want to see. That twisted hulk of flesh and metal, driven by the alien technology; can we still call that life?
We have to keep moving forward with the project, but the thought of treading the same path as the aliens is... troubling.
What if they were like us once? Are we just part of a continuing cycle? If this is a glimpse of our future, I want no part of it.
—Dr. Shen

He isn't that nonchalant

Is this post ending or just cluttering up the base game with more shit?

>>380508480
latter

>>380508480
Latter, like EW though, not the DLCs

>>380508480

No, it's not post-game.

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>>380502881

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>>380508307
Not that anon, but you wrong senpai.

>>380508649
>>380508637
>>380508632
That's stupid, the Chosen are basically Ruler rehashes

>>380508454
>And then he goes and cuts the rookie arms and legs without remorse.

>>380507037
And the only fucking thing they share is their mouths and their height.
Are sectoids now human? They have human skeletal frames from human DNA intermelding now.
To quote Dr.Tygan, "To the uninitiated the common ADVENT Trooper is seemingly human, the aliens have disguised its most glaring divergence from the human form with with a carefully designed helmet."
Advent aren't human, they're human alien hybrids like the rest of the aliens. There is a line to what is and isn't human and >>380492841 is not or ever was human.
The fact we're having an argument as to what counts as human when the game specifically states they aren't multiple times is ridiculous.

>>380508805
They're reworking Rulers and how they are introduced into games as well because of this, as well as the whole balance of the game and DLCs.
But I do agree, I wish they were introduced differently

>>380482851
>War of the Chosen
>picture is of some humanoids who look like Na'vi from Avatar mixed with some undead race from WoW
yeah I'll probably sit this one out, unless everyone is singing to the high heavens with praise for this shit.

>>380506502
Shen's last gift is pretty good for the mission alone. Might as well play that since you own it.

>>380509001

Autists just really hate humanoid aliens. They complain about it regardless of game genre, lore, or themes.

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>>380508862
He's a realist. He has ethical and moral issues with what he is doing, however not doing it contributes to the enslavement or extinction of the human race.
Also
>using a rookie and not a colonel for maximum stat gain for your MecTroopers

>>380508454
Didn't they straight up retcon that line away when Enemy Within was released?

>>380509309
Oh yeah, the PC Gamer article said we can make propoganda posters using our troops.

>>380509305
The XCOM 2 Etheral-humans are retarded looking no matter what lore "excuses" them. Advent is ok.

>>380482851
Who are those ayys from your pic OP?

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alien hunter dlc comes with specialize ayylmao squad hunting you down

war of the chosen domes with another specialize ayylmao squad to hunt you down

by god i hope they expend spark buld more because at this point its still pale incomparison to enemy within

>>380508805
In terms of showing up on missions and needing to be chased off? Sure. But they do things outside of missions and basically feel more like Exalt in that they can sabotage regions so you get less supplies, capture soldiers off the field and can attack the Avenger directly and spawn a different base defense.

Rulers acted like Super enemies, same AI, just with stronger moves. Chosen act as Rivals, they have equal to player abilities and rush to fight you if they spawn on a mission instead of you needing to run into them. This means that they could mess up your engagement like nothing else even if you don't move an inch.

If anything, they are what Rulers should have been.

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>>380511201
Instead of giving them anime hair and Tali's visor from Mass Effect they should have made Avatars look sort of like pic related. A completely featureless, perfectly sculpted human form made of smooth white material. Don't even give them guns, just make them fire energy blasts from their hands and only make slow, deliberate movements. That would certainly make them unique and make sense thematically with the whole "appropriation of the human form" thing the Ethereals have going on.

>>380511329
Rulers didn't hunt you down, you just happen to run into them. Most of the time you could get them to spawn in a none roaming pod and completely bypass them. Chosen actually hunt you and do more outside of the Tactical layer.

Sparks are getting super buffed, more aim, more health and armor and can use weapon mods. Most of their perks were alright, which didn't you like?

>>380506502
Give the DLCs a shot when the expansion drops.

>>380506502
I only bought shen's last gift, because everything else looked not worth it (anarchy's children) or downright made the game worse (rulers)

>>380486161

A big part of it is learning to anticipate pod spawns and making sure that you only pop one at a time.

>>380508782
Halo armor is objectively bad compare to other armor mods. Titanfall armor, COD armor or section 9 armor are much better pick.

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>>380482851
>XCOM

>>380513710
> leg muscles don't grow as much as upper body
skipping leg day? tsk tsk

>>380513929
it's a shitty mod

>>380513710
so how does this slider affect the ladies

>>380514476
What mod?

>>380514712

It doesn't. The mod author only likes men.

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>>380514712
>women

>>380514820
no idea

>>380514878
>it's a mod
I was rused, last time this was posted someone said it was in game

>>380514712
The creator specifically only did it to the men because he's a literal faggot.

Also you can only download it from his own personal site and not Nexus because "muh hugbox"

>>380515869
Is anyone trying to build on it and also do women?

So uh, where them female slutwear armor mods at.

>>380501296
>Blacksite with Warden Armor
What the fugg

>>380516685
There is no way to make that look good on women.

I mean, I like Amazons, but that's just grotesque.

>>380508307
>not using Halo armor
Shit taste

>>380517850
I usually put it off and save it in case I fuck up and the avatar project gets close to completion, since it's a guaranteed easy mission that will reduce the AP meter.

>>380487052
How do you deal with melee enemies particularly Chryssalids? It seems like if any time they show up in any close-quarters environment at least 2 of my squad are going down.

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>>380500850
>ODST skins

>>380513273
There are different tiers of armor. Whats stopping you from starting with Titanfall gear, then going Section 9, then finally Halo?

I dont fucking care, did they fix the horrible performance issues and the retarded crashes?

Fuck these niggers for never patching it.

>>380514997
YOUNG MAN

>>380519454
>Firaxis hasn’t forgotten about those still experiencing technical issues with XCOM 2, says Solomon, and War of the Chosen will come with some engine fixes. “We’ve definitely made improvements to loading times, certainly to stability, steady state frame rate has gone up.

Supposedly, the update with the expansion will fix shit.

I am never buying the alien rulers DLC

>pay money to get cheat weapons and armor that look like garbage and completely break that aesthetic of the game
>oh and also have some bosses that all use a retarded mechanic that make you game the shit out of the action system

>>380521267
>pay money to get cheat weapons and armor that look like garbage and completely break that aesthetic of the game

Don't fucking remind me, a fucking space flintlock and some dual axes.

>>380519454
When did you stop playing? They made many patches for performance updates and they will be making another for the expansion. Obviously you won't have to own the expansion for the performance patch.

>>380488447
>pod
the post system is utter garbage and I pray to the ayylmao gods that phoenix point (the x-com clone by the creator of the original x-com) doesn't use it.

the vast majority of complainst and problems in the nu-xcom games originates from the pod system.
>timer
because due to how pods work, the optimal strategy in xcom1 was to make them activate on their turn, and run into your overwatch, since they can't attack if they activate on their turn.
Thus, overwatch crawl was countered by strict timers.

Without timers, any mission is a cakewalk

>>380521267
Rulers are getting changed. Only Movement and Attacking actions will have Ruler reactions attached to them now. So you can do things like Run and Gun, reload, conceal and a bunch of other things and the Ruler won't do shit. Also if your guys do a movement or attacking action out of the Rulers LoS they can't react to it either. So you can still fight some other Aliens if he can't see you.

Are psionic units worth the amount of time you need to put into making them?

>>380522375
>the post system is utter garbage and I pray to the ayylmao gods that phoenix point doesn't use it.

From the gameplays it seems like the enemies roam freely around the map.

>>380522543

This doesn't matter if they don't rebalance the weapons/armor. Actually it might make things worse, since these new guys ALSO have OP shit you can get.

>>380522683

Yes, though less so on Legend. 2+ psi soldiers is OP.

>>380522773
thank fuck
got a link to gameplays, the official site is utter garbage

>>380522683
Yes, they're pretty strong. And they'll be essential in the expansion, since using explosives will attract the Lost, so you'll have to rely on Psi powers if you want guaranteed damage.

>>380522683
YES! I can't stress that enough. They are far too good for what they cost. They level up just by putting them in the tube and most Psi stuff being targeted will not miss. Soulfire can heal you after getting the add on for it. Null Lance is one of the highest damage you can do in the game outside of crits. Dominate is a permanent mind control against any target as long as you make the hit. Insanity can give you control of a unit as well and Void Rift damages and causes things to be effected by Insanity.

Almost everything the Psi Ops can do is worth getting and way too powerful. If anything Psi needs a nerf so the other soldiers don't get over shadowed in the late game.

>>380523325
>If anything Psi needs a nerf so the other soldiers don't get over shadowed in the late game.

The problem with making psi ops less powerful is you still need to justify all the resources you put into them. If it gets to the point where they're only as good as a regular class, you'll never use them.

>>380523085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uMePkH8oX0

Not much so far, you can find a video or two more. It's basically a preset fight on a tiny map, but lobster mutants will go towards you from the other end of the map.

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>>380522683
>Not turning XCOM into PSIOPS

>>380513273
>Section 9 armor

Really? Might convert from Halo then
TBS GiTS would be great or a Rainbow Six clone

>>380522781
They would be fools not to.

>Chosen weapons

It will probably take till late game to even get to the point you can kill them anyway. If anything, since it's an achievement to kill them all in their bases, Jake doesn't seem to think that you will kill them all in normal gameplay. Though it's confirmed any you don't kill will show up in the final mission.

>>380523605
I think all they need to do is make it so you can't train them up to the next level unless they get mission experience and that will slow down their growth and make them feel less like late game nukes you don't have to do anything with until the last few missions where your rookie comes out the tube a literal god.

With this Inspiration speeding up research, I see a bunch of early game psi coming into play.

>>380523760
jesus christ that looks exactly like nuxcom
how long until the lawsuit?

>>380523760
thanks m8

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Has anyone here tried out Spectrum?
I tried out LW2 when it first came out and it rubbed me the wrong way, but I heard Spectrum was more like LW1.

>>380524417
the dev is the original creator of x-com.

>>380524649
Still a shitty thing to do.

>>380524649
>>380524649
It's hard to miss that since they mention it every five seconds
I mean that visually it's identical to the new series.

>>380525153
>>380525191
they also said that they're gonna change shit to make it stand out more later on.

Not sure what they mean by that desu senpai

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>>380521267
>and completely break that aesthetic of the game
The aesthetic is garbage to begin with, it's the worst aspects of generic modern scifi with the remnants of the toy-like proportions of enemy unknown.

Why in the fuck is there not a good XCOM clone but with a fantasy setting? Mordheim sucks ass, don't know how they managed to make it so boring. Even a total conversion of XCOM2 would be fine.

>>380525416
I hope so. Mechanically it seems interesting, with the return fire and targetting, but they've got a long way to go to take away the nuxcom audience

>>380525484

I like the scrappy look of the Kevlar armor and the shininess of the Warden armor. Predator is garbage.

>>380525484
First two tiers of gear look ok. It's the third tier when things get really bad. DLC stuff is not even worth mentioning.

>>380526004
>it's another 'don't want to use the best weapons because they look like trash' episode

>>380482851
FUCKING GIMME EXALT!! I loved Exalt. They were so fucking cool to have a syndicate to compete with for rescuing the human race

>>380522375
>the x-com clone by the creator of the original x-com
More like the XCOM clone by the creator of the original x-com

>>380526264
>EXALT
>rescuing the human race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CYIu8Bc9sY

>>380525598
That Mario and Rabbids thing exists.

>>380525598

I would pay for a TES XCOM clone if MK were responsible for the plot/setting.

I have seen a guy, who knows what he was doing in X-Com 2 still get his shit pushed in by the 3rd Alien Ruler.

He only won because repeater took it out before it could seriously fuck up a person with the slam

>>380526545
Really not into Nintendo at all.
>>380526583
There's so many IPs that could pull this off, just copy the existing games and sell loadsa games.

>>380526656
>repeater
Fucking why, the whole upgrade system was pretty bad but repeaters don't make any sense.

>Your XCOM squad will never take turns raping a Viper as she cries for help.

>>380526448
They were shady as fuck, but they were a real player competing with both Xcom and the Aliens, which was so cool

>>380526829

Repeaters are hilarious though. It's always fun to be thinking seriously about your moves only to one-shot a guy. I just use a mod to make Avatars and Rulers immune to it.

>>380526893
On paper, we never saw them fighting the aliens and the original system couldn't even make them fight the aliens so LW had to retcon their origins to justify being placed on the same side as the Aliens

>>380529250
But they also never faught along side aliens. Even in the story though, they had a convoy carrying that mutant, sonya or whatever, and they were intercepted BY the aliens

I own the DLCs, but haven't played them yet.

Should I wait for the expansion or do a campaign with DLCs before it comes out?

>>380530470
DLCs add nothing, wait for the expansion.

>>380530470
Well, part of the appeal of Xcom games are playing them multiple times, so you might want to play once now and then compare it to the expansion later. I know that's what I'm doing.

>expansion coming out in a few months
>still no nude snek mod

What the fuck, that should've been a day1 mod

>>380531823
There's a nude snek for SFM.

>>380530470

You should do a campaign to familiarize yourself with the game. The DLCs aren't worth it, but the Lost Towers mission is pretty fun.

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>>380525598
>>380526545
>>380526794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7LPwY1puA0

There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladius_(video_game)

It's not exactly XCOM but it's a traditional fantasy setting and turn-based.

>>380532875
Mario x Rabbids looks better than it has a right to be
It's strange they're using guns and not like fire flowers, shells, bullet bills, etc

I just want a mod that's more akin to the original xcom but on an even grander scale. I'm talking about a full on battlefield with you controlling 20+ soldiers all at once. Soldiers dying left and right but that doesn't matter you've got millions more to fill their spots. I don't care if one mission takes over an hour to beat just because of how many units you move. Add stuff like tanks on both sides into the mix as well.

Maybe I'm just wanting something that's XCOM crossed with EDF.