>Xbox One X will render 4K nati- https://m.youtube.com/w

what is 4k nati- ?

it's fucking checkerboard, like every other 4k console game

>>380460474
>>380460383
FAKE NATTIES

>want to advance to 4k for no reason
>still can't run 1080 in 60 FPS

yeah... no. Consoles are confirmed for trash, PC masterrace takeover begins now.

>AssCreed
>running like shit
Wow, this is such a revelation. Who would have guessed?

>>380460383


Digitalfoundry are sonybros.

>>380462026
>blaming the game
No, retard.
The point of this thread is that the game doesn't run native 4k like how they kept marketing it before E3. That's downright blatant lying to your consumers.
Only pc runs it at native 4k.

>Memefoundry
Don't even care about Xbox. Digital Foundry are hacks who pander to a certain audience because it causes shitstorms.

>>380460734
>PC
>relevant

>>380462032
yeah they only revealed the scorpio specs and visited some meme place at microsoft to see more of the console

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>>380460383
Guess this was right after all.

>>380460734
Blame the cpu and apu.

They will upgrade to Zen 7nm in 2019 anyway

>>380462032
>t. Didn't watch them during the 360 area

What's checkerboarding for people who don't know?

>>380464941
>While exact implementations tend to vary between developers, the technique generally involves rendering only 50% of any given scene, often rendering it in a grid of 2×2 pixels. A reconstruction filter is then employed to extrapolate the appearance of the unrendered parts of the scene, with the final image then being presented to the viewer as (theoretically) the same as if it had been rendered natively at the target resolution. In some implementations the checkerboard grid will be alternated between frames, with the previous frame's image data being held in memory, and then used to aid with reconstructing the scene.

>>380460734
>PC masterrace takeover begins now.
You men the 70% of mustards you see on STEAM HW Survey with sub par gear, the toaster jockeys and other trash gamers that can't even touch PS3 / XB360 properly performance-wise all bought new 1337 RIGs?
>>380462032
And then there is this retard.
At least lurk for a few weeks before spouting retarded bullshit.
/v/ was full off OMG SONY IS FINISHED after every DF test of any PS4 game ever.

>>380464941
Basically the games are rendered in a fairly high res, the majority seem to be around 1440-1800, and then the rest is upscaled in a specific way as to prevent as much image quality loss as possible.

>>380462032
The fuck are you talking about? DF shit all over the PS3.

>>380462032
Nah they are pretty unbiased. They tore Bloodborne apart for its frame pacing problems and The Last Guardian for its awful framerate. I've seen them call out major games from every console like BotW.

a month of xdrone delusion all for nothing

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Kek, anyone who thought this shit would be running games at 4k is delusional.
>>380465134
>You men the 70% of mustards
50% of Steam users have GPUs that outperform the base XB1.
And this is including old DX9 and lower GPUs.

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>Xbox One X will render an image to a native 4k frame buffer

Even that GI article that leaked claimed it was "clearly" native 4K so once again game journos are fucking retarded

Don't care. It's still far and away the most powerful console and the gap is bigger than anything in recent memory. If the X struggles to run a game at 4k the Pro situation will be comical.

>>380465915
m8, the One X is only like 30% more powerful than the Pro, it's literally like comparing an RX 580 to an RX 470.

>>380465134
this is literally not an argument. millions of kids playing dota and csgo on their moms laptops means jack shit when it comes to the overall number of desktop gaming PCs

>>380465320
they didn't "call out" Botw though. In fact they were some of the only people to talk about how stable it was after the first major patch

>>380466103
This and thats exactly why 1366x768 is the second most used resolution behind 1080p on steam. Its fairly common in laptops.

>>380466008
Nah. GPU gap in percentages alone doesn't tell the full store. 4gb more ram, a bigger and faster chip overall, faster CPU, way more bandwidth. It's a bigger gap than the PS4 compared to Xbox One for example.

>>380460383
So I get that everyone shits on checkerboarding because it's not real 4k, but is there any way to do this on PC?

Like is there an equally affordable 4k solution on PC? I ask because I'm sure there's a market for people who want some form of 4k but are willing to compromise for a lower price.

>>380466225
Yes they did they talked about all the framerate problems it initially had and no shit they covered the patch thats what they fucking do. Follow up videos for games with performance problems are very common with them.

>>380466439
>GPU gap in percentages alone doesn't tell the full store.
I'm talking overall, from a pure GPU gap it's even smaller, ~25% for raw compute performance and less than 20% when it comes to CU counts and clock speeds.

>>380466539
>Like is there an equally affordable 4k solution on PC
yeah you just run the game at a non-native res (like 1800p) and it looks fucking perfectly fine

watch the digital foundry video on For Honor on the PS4 Pro. It runs at 1440p with no checkerboarding and an SMAA solution that looks better then any other checkerboarding game without any of the shitty motion artifacts

>>380465134
>but Sony!!!

every time

What's up with all the hype from phil then if this is barely a step up from the PS4 Pro?

>>380467162
It's quite a bit of a step up, actually, and we all know Sony cant keep a console afloat on their exclusives alone

>>380467162
because two reasons
>these anons are minimizing how powerful the scorpio actually is
>phil is hyping up how powerful the scorpio is

Dont know if could blame ubisoft or not.

We have to wait and see, because I'm pretty sure at least halo 6 they will attempt to make it 4K 60fps. Under any cost...

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>>380460383
Surely console manufacturers will meet their promises this time.

There is little difference between native 4k and checkerboard 4k in most situation regarding a tv, living room. It only matters to pc gaming when your eyes are glued to your screen

>>380468389
So why would anyone buy this over a PS4 Pro?

>>380468356
:^)

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>>380468389
>There is little difference between native 4k and checkerboard 4k

>>380468389
That's it eat your slop little piggy and give them your money.

>>380468904

Not an argument

>>380460383
>Xbox One X will render 4K natiive
ONLY for first party titles.

>>380469117
see
>>380468573

>>380469273
*only for certain first party titles.

>>380469117
You're not an argument.

>>380469340
*only for first party racing titles

>>380469329

A question in not an argument. Ask Microsoft that

>>380469842
So you're saying the XBX is functionally useless?
Sounds about right.

>>380469340
Microsoft said all first party games will render in native 4K.

https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/19/microsofts-project-scorpio-will-run-first-party-games-at-native-4k/

>>380470207
>all first party games
*also on win10
LMAO

>>380464425
No it isn't, whoever wrote that is a retard and doesn't have a fucking clue what they're talking about. 4k is 4x720p, not 4x1080p.

>>380471665
>Using Microsoft Spybot 10
I SHIGGY DIGGY

>>380468389
Dev here, I've read Microsoft's and Sony's internal docs on checkerboard rendering. Native 4k is a borderline disgusting waste of resources when you can produce a solid imitation for 40% less work and spend that power on other things like shaders and models

>>380464783
it should have been zen. Jaguar is low power trash. Even their "silicon magic" stuff that they did with the hardware directx calls cant salvage it.

>>380472687
My dad works at Nintendo and he says native 4k is the best.

>>380472821
Don't get me wrong, your dad is right.

>>380471665
>he uses Windows Store

>>380462032
They've spent the last six months sucking off the Cuckbonex you fucking retard

Basically you can build a $500 PC and just upscale it to 4K and you got yourself an X. You can't use the

>TRY BUILDING A NATIVE 4K PC FOR $500 HAHAHAHA

I'm glad I'm not a consolefag who sits 10 meters away from his screen and only cares about muh pretty setpieces
I'm still using my fucking 22'' 1680x1050 screen from 10 years ago

>>380474954

>im glad im poor

>>380476009
What could I possibly upgrade to with all this money I have? Anything bigger seems pointless considering that it's relatively close to my face, standing on my desk

ITS CHECKERBOARDING I FUCKING TOLD YOU, AND YOU DIDNT BELIEVE ME

>>380476320
>with all this money I have?

I dont know what you can do with your 50$ allowance, showe it up your ass maybe?

>>380476803
I'm pretty sure someone with a $50 allowance isn't poor

>>380460383
shit, same resolution and framerate as Horizon Zero Dawn... I thought the extra 12 months and $100 were supposed to bring true 4K

>>380472021
3840x2160 = 4 * (1920x1080)