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>Super-esque level design >Fusion and Zero Mission agility

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>Super-esque level design
>Fusion and Zero Mission agility and acrobatics
>Other M melee counters
>Prime sound design and effects

I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a video game.
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I can. It was yesterday when TWO METROID GAMES
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>>380425141
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>>380425010
Question is if they'll sexualize Samus again in endings and cut scenes
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>>380425141
>Prime shit

thank fuck we have this game to make up for it
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I never played a metroid game. Why it has such cult following? Why do you guys like it?
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>>380425206
Better version
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>>380425403
because it is good games

good level design
good design and art
good music
good and fun gameplay
good difficulty (doesnt pander to babies)
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I WANT THE SAMUS AND METROID AMIBOS FOR MY DESK
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The new redesign is pretty fucking good
It's like a mix of Other-M sleek suit and Prime bulk
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>>380425415
take capn's hotdog out
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>>380425206
>>380425415
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TWO GAMES? SAMUM ARUMPF

CANCELL YOUR GAEMS RIGHT NOOOOOOOOOWWWWW
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We need to update this.
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>>380425010
>super-esque level design
massive hallways with tutorial popups aren't super-esque at all.
>Other M melee counters
Why on earth are you acting like this is a good thing.

Just QTE my shit up.
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>>380425403
>>380425510
Also, good lore and story.
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>>380425415
Is this confirmed fzero game foreshadowing??! :00
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i wish it wasn't held back by metroid 2.

additionally, AMR2 remake looked better graphically and i'm willing to bet that the fusion engine that it used plays better than MSR's engine
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>>380425749
>Why on earth are you acting like this is a good thing.

Because they are fun, look cool, and completely optional to your play style.
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>>380425627
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>>380425749
>massive hallways with tutorial popups aren't super-esque at all.
those aren't massive.
>Why on earth are you acting like this is a good thing.
Not him, but the dodge mechanic of Other M ruined it and made it too easy, but there was a good idea behind it.
Here it look more like it require timing skill instead of button smashing, so it might actually be fun.

>Just QTE my shit up.
Contextual action isn't the same thing as QTE.
QTE require DDR button input, ony to see the resulting action NEXT, meaingi you only have an indirect control of the action.
While contextual actions make the button's input BE the action on screen. you are the on directly controlling it. You have DIRECT control of the action.

the Rockstar Batman games used them in a good way.
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Am I the only one who thinks this looks graphically better than AMR2? Usually threedee would put me off but that big resevoir area and the crystals are just so pretty.
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>>380425917
>because they are fun
pushbutton2instakill isn't what I'd call fun
>look cool
Maybe for the first 4 times but it'll lose it's novelty very quickly.
>and completely optional to your playstyle
fair enough but why even include this shit in the first place? Metroid didn't need a parry button casualizing it.

Then again this is 2017 nintendo.
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>>380426173
are you out of your mind??? i think that FUSION looks better, let alone amr2
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>>380425010
Me either and the best part, Sakamoto and MercurySteam wants to make more 2D Metroid game in the future so the Switch is definitely their next target. Metroid 5 is next, baby!
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>MercurySteam
Drones are this fucking desperate.
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>>380425892
I havent seen any of the material, but the original Metroid was improved in many ways by Zero Mission, so I'd think there is a good chance that outdated design choices from Metroid 2 are gonna be "fixed".
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>>380425928
Can you reverse the 4 and the samus to reflect the times they were announced?

That'd be swell
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>>380425713
Sakamoto saves Metroid, let's see what Tanabe does with Prime.
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I'd just like to say that Zero Mission is literally the GOAT Metroid.
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>>380425141
>TWO METROID GAMES
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Those Metroid amiibo are cool as fuck too
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>>380425010
I want to like this game, I love Metroid, but this game looks iffy to me. The graphics and art direction are ugly as sin, and the new gameplay and constant pop up tutorial shit has me hesitant. I will still probably pick it up because its a start in the right direction i guess.
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>>380426221
>pushbutton2instakill isn't what I'd call fun
That's not what it does.
>fair enough but why even include this shit in the first place?
Diversity of gameplay. having more option to fight can make things more interesting.
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>>380425627
>>380425928
>>380427102
Did I miss a meme, why is Myamoto pitched against Stephen Colbert when neither of them have anything to do with Metroid?
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nah i fully expect MSR to be garbage compared to modern indie metroidvanias.. the mechancis just look boring and the the 3d graphics look inferior to 2d sprite based graphics.
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>>380426221
crit damage still isn't push button. and it's well timed push-button, it's a mechanic that reward timing skill and punish bad timing.
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>>380425010
I would want this on the switch instead of 3ds
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>>380425713
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>>380427267
It's a /pol/ meme related to Trump getting 2 scoops of ice cream when everyone else gets 1, and Stephen Colbert reporting and criticizing everything Trump does
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>>380425584
kek
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>>380426705
Webm so perfect
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>>380427456
Pretty good
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>>380427508
did stephen actually complain about the two scoop thing, though?
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>>380426705
This was me.
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>>380427456
I never got that AC sprite up until now.
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>>380426705
Perfect
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>>380427456
To be fully accurate, pre-other M should still have one complaining that "Fusion isn't a real Metroid game", though.
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>>380427703
I don't think so, I searched for a video of him reporting on the 2 scoops but I didn't find any
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you have got your pre order in, right /v/?
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Should I buy a 3DS for this game?
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>>380428416
You should
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>>380425223
I hope they do to upset you SJW primefags whining about it all the time.
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>>380428416
No
But you should buy one for that plus the rest of the games on 3DS
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>>380425010
Gameplay in the trailer looked good but I thought the graphics looked like hot garbage. I really wish they stuck with sprite. Still definitely picking it up. Hope it's good.
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>>380425010
>Other M melee counters
The trailer made me realize that even though I hated other M, giving Samus some physicality to mix things up was a good idea.

I want to live in a world where I can ice beam a cunt and then shatter him with an arm cannon haymaker.
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play AM2R instead.
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>same devs as Mirror of Fate
>2,5D
>ugly as shit
>melee and free aim so no difficulty
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>>380427456

boo
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I was dumb and sold my 3DS years ago when I was done with AC because I needed money. I'm tempted to buy one again just for this game now that i'm in a better spot. Am I retarded?
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>>380428660
Why not both?
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>>380428849
I am fucking ready for more of these in the wake of Prime 4.
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>>380425010
That's not the actual cover, right?
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>>380425403
I played my first metroid games on gba and till this day they have one of the tightest level design, controls, atmosphere, exploration, feel of fullfilment and exitement. Super metroid is essentialy the same but 10 years prior to them.
And it's all somehow in 2d. Absolutely based.
Although, there are allways nignogs who will go out and say BUT I HATE METROIDVANIAS.
Duh, nigger. Your loss
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>>380428940
Nah, 3DS has a great library now. Now's a good time to buy one.
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>>380428801
>so no difficulty

Since when do Metroidfags care about difficulty? Everyone acknowledges Super is a piss easy game.
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>>380426705
but I wanted both
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>>380425010
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True story, I went to bed last night thinking "If Nintendo announces a new Metroid Prime or a 2D Metroid game, they win E3."

And then they announce BOTH. Best conference ever.
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>>380429040
What is wrong with the cover?
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>>380427102
give Colbert the Captain Falcon helmet
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>>380429040
Of course that's the actual cover. It's mimicking the original.
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>>380425010

Being developed by the Lords of Shadow guys ruin any hype I had
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Why is every area so fucking sparse of enemies and extremely linear looking?
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>>380429815
So far from the 20+ minutes of gameplay footage it seems fine.
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>>380425324

You purists are the worst. Symphony of the Night did Metroidvania better back then let alone all the other games in the genre since then. Ffs Hollow Knight is people's goty. Nobody has recreated Prime magic
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>>380425010
>developed by the same team who made CV: Mirror of Fate
And into the trash.
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>>380429915
Welcome to the beginning of Metroid 2.
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>>380429991
Why do you keep taking the bait for fuck sake.
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>>380429939
This and don't forget what mediocre companies are able to do with Nintendo's oversight.
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>Go to sleep after shitposting about how Nintendo will be 100% disappointment
>Metroid is basically a meme at this point
>Prime 4 announced
>Ok but fuck this I wanted 2D
>1 hour later
>FUCK YES TWO GAMES
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>>380425010
I'm glad this came in to make the wait for Prime 4 more tolerable. The game does look solid and that squishy metroid amiibo is nice. Wonder how it will turn out in the end
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>>380429815
I keep hearing this, I never played it, what was wrong with that game? It sounds like it was pretty bad with how worried people are with this Metroid 2 remake.
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>>380430067
Other M?
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>>380430029
At least enemies attack you now. In Metroid 2 hardly any enemies really go after you and are really just obstacles.
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>>380430140
Prime?
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>>380425713

Knowing this sack of shit is out there watching and will see Prime 4 and the remake outsell his piece of garbage exponentially is more enjoyable than the games for me
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>>380425010
>Other M melee counters
But that's one of the bad parts. The tells even on Omega Metroids are ridiculous and you have all the time in the world for the counter. Even the Treehouse presenter who could hit enemies maybe 30% of the time and had to stop to do almost anything got off so many melee counters without even trying to the point that it was ridiculous. It just takes away any reason to actually dodge when you have parry windows that last what looks like more than a second.

Free aim is amazing though, I'm so glad they added it since it looks like it's really nice to actually aim accurately.
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>>380430140
I think that was Nintendo's fault. I'm thinking about Next Level Games which does some pretty cool stuff when they're partnered with Nintendo.

Barring Federation Force, but again that was the kind of game Nintendo wanted them to make, so again it was all on Nintendo.
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>>380425010
>>Super-esque level design
>Implying it won't just be as linear as Metroid 2 and AM2R
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>>380430202
>Retro
>Mediocre
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>>380430323
I hope they keep the same basic layout like in Zero Mission, but mix it up a lot more than that game did.
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>>380428416
No.
Emulate it in Citra and see if you like it first.
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>>380430336
Not him, but I think the better example to use would've been Rare. They made a lot of trash even in the NES days
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Is anyone else laughing their ass off at the CE coming with a soundtrack
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>>380426173
I actually like 3d on 3DS and always leave it on when possible, but AM2R is the best Metroid game, atleast from the 2d games. MSR looks a bit iffy. I do like the melee and takedowns they added. And its in 3d for a change. But the designs look too simple and could use more details, which the going away from pixels robs.

But official remake for this game was a must. AM2R is just going to be better, so its good that they're doing new things with this remake.
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>>380425010
WAIT A MINUTE
>shoulder pads have the little twin fins
>in a game directed by Sakamoto
>IT'S ACTUALLY A MODIFIED METROID PRIME ARMOR DESIGN
>WHEN DIRECTED BY SAKAMOTO

Well, the guy seems to have pulled his head out of his ass.
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>>380430565
>AM2R is the best Metroid game,
pleb detected
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>>380425713
>>380427456
>I am the one punched in the face in the third panel
I'm so excited for this M2 remake, gosh.

FF is fun, FF is good
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>>380430297
so that's two metroid titles against a whopping zero.
you're not making the remake look any better.
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>>380430618
what game do you think was the best?
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>>380430589
The music in the game sounds like Prime also. From the jingle to environment themes
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>>380430641
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>>380430297
I do hope you're right.
I wish this remake will be successful, even if it ends up not being my cup of tea, because that at least gives hope for an original 2D Metroid game, which we haven't had in 15 years.
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>>380430336
the point was that Retro kept making absolute dog shit, and then Nintendo stepped in and they made Prime.

This game seems to be the same.
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>want to replay the GBA Metroid games
>suddenly realise that they have been already pulled off from emuparadise
fuck
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>>380430416
We've got confirmation on the areas being changed up at the very least
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>>380430589
Because it's like that in the original Metroid II. The suit in Metroid Prime was modeled after the Super Metroid version, it was only in Other M that they changed it.

If what you're hinting at is that Sakamoto "now" considers Prime canon, I don't think he or anyone at Nintendo ever didn't. Prime is a self-containted story anyway. You can leave it or take it out and it changes little, if anything it serves as a justification for why the Metroid were so dangerous that they had to be exterminated, because while at least one of them caused galactic havoc in the Prime series, they didn't do much in Metroid 1.
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>>380425010
>sidescroller
there's no excuse for this
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>>380430589
>How to spot a Prime fag

Metroid 2 and Super had the thick shoulder pads with fins dumbass
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>>380430760
Among the 2D games, indisputably Super. Though ZM and Fusion are each better in a few aspects.
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>>380430927
you mean 2D? what are you complaining about exactly?
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>>380430921

Pretty sure what he's getting at is that its a fucking shock after how hard Nintendo and Sakamoto dick rode Other M's design into everything. They knew the fans hated it but still forced it
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>>380428809
oooh
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>>380427703
he mentionned it. but no rage, Colbert does rage like a fuckign buffoon for anything and everything Trump related, so it's far from out of character
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>>380429539
i feel you
that's gotta be amazing
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>>380430780
NOT AGAIN
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>>380431029
The people who hated the Other M suit are an extremely vocal minority, most Metroid fans just don't give a shit because it's not that drastic of a redesign and would rather put that energy towards hating Other M itself.
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>>380425010
>>380425141
>>380425324
Do you retards not pay attention? Look at who's developing it.
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>>380431017
I think AM2R is more fun than Super.

Sure Super is more of a milestone and is more influential and without Super there would be no AM2R or any number of other Metroidvanias, but I still think as a final product, AM2R is more fulfilling to play.
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>>380431024
yes 2D. I don't know how anyone can play and enjoy such garbage. Japan and indie devs need to be genocided for not letting it die out
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>>380430084
there was aniggah that started a threa dot sya fuck nintendo for no 2d metroid, and it got announced about 10 minute later

Motherfucker got a few hundred (you)'s
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>>380431262
>The people who hated the Other M suit are an extremely vocal minority
This is what Other M fans tell themselves to ease the pain.
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>>380431262
>everyone either didn't care enough to say anything, or vocally hated it
Sounds like a good reason to change it back.
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>>380431024
No the grapics are 3D, retard. The gameplay is sidescroller.

Fucking idiot.
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>>380431269
See >>380430837
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>>380431269
I'll take a Metroid game developed by fucking Arzest if it means we're getting another Metroid game
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>>380431421
Yes, the gameplay is 2D. That's obviously what he was saying. Stop being a fuck.
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>>380431487
do you neo-/v/ faggots not know about the monkey's paw?
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>>380431309
Reminds of that time the FF7 remake was announced
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>>380431271
I disagree, AM2R is a very amateur production. The music and graphics are lame, the boss fights aren't as good as Fusion, the exploration isn't as good as Super or even ZM, the level design isn't as good as any of them and there's very little replayability.
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>>380425010
>Made by the people who made Lords of Shadow
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>>380431262
I can believe this. I personally don't like the Other M design but I was never super pissed off about it like I've heard some people talk about it.
Samus Returns has an interesting mix of Super's design and Other M's design while also doing it's own thing (what the heck is that thing on her hand anyway?) so there's less of a reason for people to be so pissed off about it. Unless the thought of such a fusion seems like sacrilege to them or something.
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>>380431262
It's called autism.
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>>380431615
That's mostly just Metroid 2 being shit, though.
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>>380431487
How about a Metroid game by Bioware
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>>380425010
>MercurySteam
>This actually looks good

So is it safe to say that Dave Cox and the rest of the team knocked Enric Álvarez out and buried him alive?
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>>380431631
>Overseen by Nintendo
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>>380431631
What is wrong with Lords of Shadow?
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The logo is fucking bad ass
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Did the people complaining about Mercury Steam actually watch the Treehouse gameplay? Shit looks fucking great.
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>>380431741
The shitty 3DS game that runs at 10 fps and is an objectively shit metroidvania.
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>>380425415
Yo hold up why does Falcon have a hotdog, he doesn't even have a game
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>>380431805
I did. It looked fucking terrible before I realized it was made by Mercury Steam.
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>>380425324
>literally, LITERALLY nothing shown about Prime 4 other than that it exists
>still calling it shit

I know you guys like to shit on games before they're even out, but have some patience for fucks sake
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>>380430921
>>380430991
>calling me a prime fag
>when they don't even know there is a differece of design between the prime and the Super one
The art clearly take its design inspiration from the prime design. The Shoulder pad from Super/zero Mission/fusion/metroid 2 are a bit smaller.

here the art clearly show it's taken from the prime design rahter than the Super design.

but mostly, I was poiting out they had given up on the no-fin design from Other M/Sm4sh.
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>>380431487

This is the line of thinking that got Other M and killed the series for this long
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So what the fuck do the amiibos do?
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>>380431691
Then we're in agreement.
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>>380430921
>The suit in Metroid Prime was modeled after the Super Metroid version
The suit in Super and Prime have different design for the pad. It's a bit subtle, but it's there.
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>>380431904
And why did you think it was shit sweetheart? is it because it isn't AM2R?
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>>380431943
It's being made by nobodies instead of retro and the prime series was never good in the first place. Of course it'll be shit.
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>>380432006

Probably some dumb broken shit to make the game easier like every amiibo integration
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Well we be able to play the game a ZSS ?
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>>380432090
>and the prime series was never good in the first place
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>>380432089

Not him but being visibly sub-30 FPS at points is probably a big one
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>>380429749
I have no problem with the image, but the logo just looks bad.
It's not super important though.
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>>380432164
Stop taking the FUCKING BAIT
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>>380431904
Personally I thought it looked pretty fun, but I really fucking wish it was pure 2D, it doesn't even have to be pixel art just not this 2.5D trash. Also the Aeon Abilities (or at least the first one) look like it'll ruin the secrets.
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>>380432164
Not him, but the Prime games are not good Metroid games.
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>>380428660
Play Mtroid II instead. You aren't a pussy, are you?
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>>380430150
Welcome to Metroid.
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>>380432193
>Not him but being visibly sub-30 FPS at points is probably a big one
You can't really judge that on a stream.
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>>380432197
I agree, something is off about that logo but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
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>>380425010

I hate how modern covers look. There's no synergy and balance in the art. Samus looks shopped on there and you compare it to >>380430991 that looks like a cohesive painting
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>>380431805
It's mostly just "Muh AMR2" like this game will somehow erase it from existence.
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>>380432090
>It's being made by nobodies instead of retro
You mean like how Retro were nobodies when Prime 1 came out? Dipshit.
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>>380432260
faggot
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>>380432245
Didn't super have a scan visor that let you see destroyable stuff?
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>>380431976
Holy shit look at this pole-vaults of logic
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>>380431943
Remember when 343 took over Halo after Bungie left?

Look how that turned out
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>>380432339

You don't have to play something to see it not running at LEAST 30 FPS. When something dips below that threshold its pretty noticeable
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>>380432417
Yes.
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>>380432417
Scan Visor stemmed from Super's X-ray Visor.
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>>380432350
I know right, it's just another Metroid II remake. What's the big deal?
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>>380432417
Oh yeah, you're right, I forgot about that since I always skip it since it's so out of the way. It's a really forgettable item.
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>>380430589
People seem to forget that Sakamoto directed Super Metroid.
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Have pre-orders started for that collectors edition? Ive seen prime 4 go up but i can find the 3ds shit anywhere.
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>>380432245
Then don't use the scan feature. It's not a problem.
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>>380432417
X-Ray Scope.
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>>380431691
Not really, no. Metroid II has obvious issues with basic surface-level playability sort of stuff, like the screen being tiny and the myriad issues that creates, but the overall design is pretty solid.

I guess "exploration" is poor in II, if by that you mean backtracking, because II is largely linear, with branches into micro-metroidvania areas you only need to visit once, even for 100%. This isn't really a fault with the game though, it's just different.
What IS a fault is AM2R keeping Metroid II's linear map structure and progression, but then adding backtracking, which does not suit any aspect of the game's design, and needing to add teleports to make this change not completely intolerable.
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I'm just worried that the Melee counter might be too dependent. Something like that dash move from Mighty no 9
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>>380432678

>but then adding backtracking,
But you never need to backtrack in AM2R.
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>>380431982
>This is the line of thinking that got Other M and killed the series for this long
Are you blaming Team Ninja?
You know the guy responsible for pretty much every negative aspect of Other M is the guy that directed Super Metroid, right?
The problem with Other M was the Nintendo side of things.
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>>380431982
>It's the "Team Ninja ruined Other M" meme again
Other M was going to be shit no matter which team developed it, since Sakamoto was at the head and had total creative control over the project. Obviously Team Ninja isn't Retro but they did a decent job.
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>>380432845
That's what he's saying
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>>380432678
>but then adding backtracking
AM2R had the same amount of backtracking that the original Metroid II had: none that is required.
The only reason you'd backtrack is to go after expansions you missed.
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>>380432845
You do if you want to 100% the game. They tried to do what Zero Mission did and add a bunch of collectibles that you need to backtrack, but SR-388 was never designed around backtracking in the same way Zebes was so it ended up being a chore.
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>>380432678
2 also has the least inspired bosses in terms of gameplay and design.
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>>380433064
So just don't 100% it, problem solved. If doing a certain thing is boring to you, don't do that thing.
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>>380432417
There's a bit of a difference between
>look directly at blocks in the room you're in to temporarily see if they are fake or breakable or whatever
and
>press button to permanently reveal absolutely everything on a sizable chunk of the map around you and highlight all breakable blocks near you
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>>380433231
How about don't make going for 100% shitty and boring?
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seems liek Mercury Steam will kill off another franchise
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>>380427456
>I can't wait for the Metroid 2 remake
It's like pottery
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>>380433348
I agree, also the Aeon abilities seem like they might clutter the way the game previously integrated mechanics and lore. I always liked the way that 'power-ups' were justified as being electronic artefacts left by the Chozo, who also made Samus' suit. Now suddenly they're basically adding 'magic'?
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>>380433348
One uses energy and the other is completely free to use whenever. A range scan just takes out the tedium of stopping every few seconds to scan walls. Not that you have to use either ability of course
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>>380425010
Delicious, bulky shoulder pads, Sakamoto on suicide watch
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>>380433231
The entire reason why Super Metroid is a masterpiece is because it implements backtracking in a way that isn't tedious. Samus's overall movement and the map layout means you can get to old areas very quickly and smoothly. Most games that try to imitate it fail because they don't grasp this concept. Backtracking isn't inherently good, it's all down to the way you implement it. AM2R should have greatly restructured SR-388 if they wanted to accomodate backtracking, adding a few warp points doesn't entirely fix the issue.
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>>380425713 >>380427456
I can't wait until these metroid samus returnfags get BTFO'd
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>>380433591
The Power Suit was always bird magic anyway.
Why do you think it could just turn into a ball like that? Or have an such a large armament of physical missiles despite having no place to store them? Or just plain vanish when Samus wants to take it off?
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>>380433642
I found what little backtracking there was in AM2R far from tedious. Also the fast-travel points were really limited in use and don't come into play until very nearly the end of the game. They're basically just there for searching the whole gamemap for pickups prior to fighting the queen.
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>>380433591
>Now suddenly they're basically adding 'magic'?

Chozo technology was always space magic.
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>>380432417
>>380433348
The x-ray scope is kind of insanely clunky anyway, and it's made redundant by power bombs, anyway. I'd much rather take the aeon ability.
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>>380433472
Then just make an unrelated fangame rather than a Metroid II remake.
They wanted to remake Metroid II, and that includes keeping the same general structure. You can't satisfy 100%er autism without just scrapping everything and making a Super Metroid imitator instead, which was never the goal of this project.
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>>380433597
>One uses energy
Barely.
And it's almost instantly refilled after killing like 3 enemies
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>>380433745
>>380433796
My point is that it had the semblance of actual technology and was a physical thing. The new stuff is just floaty sparkles and shit. Why not just add a bunch of new Chozo balls and tie their abilities to a universal energy meter?
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>>380433597
>One uses energy
Did we watch the same stream? It used like a sixth of the gauge iirc, and was completely refilled shortly after by killing a small handful of enemies. That it uses energy doesn't look like it will matter at all.
The X-ray scope being tedious to use everywhere is why you don't use it EVERYWHERE, but instead when an area looks suspicious and you want to inspect it.
My concern with the aeon ability thing is that you won't need to have to have any environmental awareness at all to find things or figure out where to go, and that this will make progressing or going for 100% feel a bit like just going through the motions.
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>>380433774
SR-388's terrain is quite rocky, which makes traversing it quite slow. It's a big contrast from the relatively smooth terrain of Zebes. Backtracking is a very difficult thing to implement well, which is why the vast majority of games don't implement it well. AM2R is still very solid, but it's not perfect or near-perfect like some people claim.

And speaking of the Queen Metroid, I didn't like how she was deliberately chasing down Samus in AM2R. In the original, she was just standing her ground and defending her egg (something a mother would actually do).
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>>380432353
Retro came in with a fresh idea for a FPS metroid.
These new guys were just given the property and told to do something similar.
We all know what happens when a property is given to some fuckheads who don't realize what made the first game good in the first place.

Being sceptic isn't wrong in this case.
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>>380426705
I've never seen this board so happy lmao
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>>380434201
Retro was full of shitty ideas until Miyamoto whipped them into shape. This has been widely reported.
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>>380434185
>something a mother would actually do
Depends on the animal. Ever walked between a mad cow and their calf? They'll chase you the fuck down until you're out of sight or not moving.
Also in terms of gameplay I really liked the chase, the original fight was very static and basically just involved missile spamming, this added a much-needed dynamic element and a real sense of tension.
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>>380433886
>You can't satisfy 100%er autism without just scrapping everything and making a Super Metroid imitator instead, which was never the goal of this project.
The original Metroid II has 100% "autism" without backtracking, so I have no idea what you are talking about.
And AM2R very much is Metroid II but made more like Super Metroid. Super Metroid abilities that weren't in Metroid II were added. An escape sequence that feels totally out of place and was kind of shit was added. Backtracking for 100% was added. All of this, presumably to make it more like the other Metroid games or something.
If the goal was to faithfully update Metroid II, AM2R failed.
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>>380434527

Super Metroid wasn't where AM2R was taking its additional inspiration from, Zero Mission and Fusion where. That's where the new setpieces and boss fights came from, and both fell short of their inspiration.
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>>380434527
>An escape sequence that feels totally out of place and was kind of shit was added.
What are you talking about? Did you even play the game?
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>>380434201
Tanabe is still in charge faggot
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>>380434878
The thing where you get the powerbombs. It was lame.
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>>380425010
>Other M anything
>excited
I think it's time to kill yourself, old boy.
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>>380434505
>Also in terms of gameplay I really liked the chase
But the chase doesn't really affect the gameplay much. It just adds walking sections between the phases of the fight for the most part.
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>>380432340
Kek
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>>380425627
You didn't even try with that shop, garbage boy.
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>>380434505
The point in Metroid II was that Samus was the aggressor and the Metroids were the defenders. You were invading their territory, not the other way around. Samus could freely retreat from the Queen's room if she needed to and the Queen wouldn't chase her down. It's a subtle story-telling feature that is lost in AM2R.
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>>380434995
Each area had a slightly different layout, so your positioning tactics for each need to be adjusted. It also gave a sense of progression rather than spamming missiles for about half an hour then her suddenly exploding.
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>>380429991
>no one's recreated scanning uninteresting shit for hours on end

w-whoa...
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>>380427267
>Myamoto doesn't have anything to do with Metroid
Shiggy literally CREATED Metroid Prime 1
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>>380431164
More like he constantly makes fun of that thing, and the sycophant squad gets megasad about it.
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>>380435239
Everyone knows the chozos created the first metroid, loser
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>start playing super metroid for the first time
>at a roadblock, just wandering around trying to find the right place to power bomb so i can proceed
i understand why some people would really like it but it's really boring going through the same areas over and over again trying to figure out the right place to go
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>>380434992
>"other m is bad" meme
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>>380435301
nah he's just mad he doesn't get two scoops
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>>380435347
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>>380427703
he did yes
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>>380435405
>being this desperate for interaction
>>380435503
case in point
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>>380435357

You need to return to where you got the Ice Beam.
Just after the speed-booster barriers come down, in the same room, you can power bomb the floor.
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>>380435571
lmao stop crying, all you have to do is ask for another scoop of ice cream
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>>380435147
>It also gave a sense of progression
Just switching between phases accomplishes that. Being chased does not create a sense of progression.
Also she gets much faster as she takes damage in II. It's not totally static.

>rather than spamming missiles for about half an hour
You know you could bomb her insides and do way more damage than you could by just shooting missiles, right?
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>>380435681
>lmao stop crying
I know you need attention, you already made that clear.
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>>380435739
nice projection. have a pity (you)
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>>380435845
That mother of yours really needs to get you a babysitter.
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>>380430927
>>380431279
fuck off faggot
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>>380432449
those streams themselves don't run at 30 fps retard
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This officially makes the 3DS the best Nintendo system since the SNES
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Is this new 3ds exclusive or will it run on an o3ds?
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>>380435507
Where were you when you realized the Metroid lore is a cardboard cut out and Sakamoto just makes up shit as he goes?
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>>380436446
Is there such thing as a n3DS exclusive?
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>>380435507
X are deadlier than Metroids though
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>>380436421
>worst Fire Emblem
>worst Pokemon
>worst Smash Bros
>worst 3D Mario
>worst 2D Mario
>worst Mario & Luigi
>worst Paper Mario
>worst second-worst Metroid (although this game could redeem it)
The only thing it's done right so far is Zelda and Kid Icarus.
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>>380436713
>literally wrong about all of them

Wow you are retarded
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I have my doubts about this game, something about it seems off from the bigger portion of gameplay they showed off during the treehouse stream, switching between missile types seems clunky, and the space jump not altering Samus at all when she's flipping seems really cheap and lazy.
I want to be wrong but I feel like this game is gonna be mediocre at best
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>>380436681
nope

the X can copy other species
the Metroid can take DNA from other species to evolve

the Metroid is inherently more dangerous
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>>380436843
>the Metroid can take DNA from other species to evolve
citation needed
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>>380436786
>wrong about paper mario sticker star
>wrong about mario & luigi dream team
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>>380436514
Xenoblade, the Binding of Isaac Rebirth, a bunch of indie games that could easily run on the O3DS and the upcoming FE Warriors.
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>>380436787
What do you mean with "space jump not altering samus"? It only looks really different from your normal jump when you have the screw attack.
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>>380436910
Dream Team >>>>>> PiT
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>>380436937
She doesn't spin faster or anything, and in Super Metroid, Fusion, and Zero Mission, Samus becomes a complete blur.
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>>380436843
>Metroid can take DNA from other species to evolve
Where was this stated? I played them all (bar FF) but don't remember this one.
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>>380436910
Dream Team is the best M&L game
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>>380436892
>>380437012
i'm retarded, ignore what i said

i forgot that the phazon radiation made the metroids mutate and that otherwise they have a set life cycle
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>>380437002
Well obviously, Partners in Time was awful. The series peaked at Bowser's Inside story.
But Dream Team suffers from a lot of handholding and padding, like I lost count how many times I had to do some arbitrary shit because Luigi was a clownboat and broke something. The 2D dream segments were amusing enough but everything about the game just felt like a fucking chore being dragged out as long as possible to make it feel like you're actually doing something worthwhile.

>>380437043
See above
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>>380437098
You were also forgetting that Metroids actually have a crippling weakness in ice while the x parasites do not.
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>>380436843
Only on their home planet.

Protip: Guess what part of the universe isn't SR388? All of it.
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>>380435140
>It's a subtle story-telling feature that is lost in AM2R.
There's a decent amount of that in AM2R.
Like the game showing you how many Metroids are present and remaining in each individual area when you visit them, rather than the overall remaining total of Metroids in the game.
In II, going into the final area, you see what looks like an egg, and you're stopped, a musical cue plays, and for the first time ever, the number of Metroids remaining increases, and by like 9 or so.
In AM2R, you still stopping and musical cue, but the number increases when you go into any new area, so the oh shit moment is totally destroyed, being stopped and hearing a musical cue when nothing different than usual is happening is very confusing, and the idea that what you're seeing is a Metroid egg is made much less clear.

>>380437004
>and in Super Metroid, Fusion, and Zero Mission, Samus becomes a complete blur.
I'm pretty sure that happens in II as well, the game where the Space Jump was introduced. So it's always done that, basically.
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>>380437304
>I'm pretty sure that happens in II as well, the game where the Space Jump was introduced. So it's always done that, basically.
Yeah, and in this remake, there's nothing, it's the same somersault animation but you can just jump infinitely in the air. It just feels wrong.
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>>380437220
They lose it past the larva stage though.

I still agree X are the greater threat, to the point where Chozos had to make not a deadlier parasite (as the meme has it) but a specialized one designed to fuck the X.

I mean, fuck, X can pilot space ships and infect other planets.
All metroids do is sit there until some asshole decides to pick 'em up and weaponize them.
It's not even a contest.
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>>380430101
Mirror of Fate was weird because they tried to put Lords of Shadow's slow-paced God of War style combat into a 2D Metroidvania. If it wasn't explicitly a Castlevania game it would probably have gotten a pass as a generic Metroidvania game that, but having the Castlevania title set expectations a lot higher and it was nowhere near IGA quality.
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>>380437398
In 2, the Space Jump just makes her somersault faster, it's the Screw Attack that makes her look blurred.
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>>380437448
>They lose it past the larva stage though.
Did you not reach Metroid Fusion's final boss?
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>>380437448
Why does everyone in the Metroid universe keep trying to weaponize those buggers anyways? It never goes well
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>>380431706
Alvarez is busy with this piece of shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEtPSC-ac5k

Metroid is being done by a smaller team that's funded and overseen by Nintendo.
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>>380426705
I was wondering if I'd find a 30 Rock edit of this, nice job champ.
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>>380437810
The Chozo literally created an artificial life form, that's an incredible scientific milestone and it is entirely reasonable for everyone else to want to reverse engineer them now that the Chozo are gone. The Space Pirates want to weaponize them but as we see at the beginning of Super there is presumed to be a beneficial aspect to figuring out their energy sucking powers too. The Galactic Federation still wants to do "good" things with Metroids but they cross into ethically questionable territory by trying to preserve/revive them behind Samus' back.
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the game looks like shit
I wish they had just used sprites
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>>380431838
To be fair, you should have heard the stories about the games development from Castlevania Leaker Bro. 4chan has a member of the Castlevania team who always gives us the early and inside scoop on Castlevania news.

Mirror of Fate never stood a chance. It was given a quick turnaround and zero budget. Lets put it this way, Mirror of Fate BOMBED commercially. But leakerbro confirmed that not only did the tiny amount of money it did make turn a profit, but was also able to fully fund the development of the HD port. That is how little money Mirror of Fate was given to work with.
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>>380437448
>>380437805
This, metroids don't lose their vulnerability to cold, each evolutionary stage just develops further protection against it with a carapace. That's why the omega metroid has a very small weak point and the queen metroid literally can't be damaged at all except from the inside.
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>>380437220
>Prime pirates figure out that the Metroids' weakness stems from their constant need to feed off of energy and coldness being the complete lack of moving particles
>in OM the Feds casually breed out this weakness
Almost forgot how retarded OM's plot was. Thanks for reminding me.
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>>380437253
Except that one part of the research station in Fusion
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>YFW Nintendo are total bros and include Metroid 2, the scrapped GBC version of Metroid 2 and AM2R in the package
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>>380438751
You mean the one that got blown up?
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>>380438678

I literally can't wait for more absurdly specific space pirate lore in Metroid Prime 4.
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>>380425010
dropped
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>>380438678
>>380438943
Space pirate logs are the best optional reading material I've seen in vidya.
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>>380438851

Yeah I can see that happening, specially given how """"""""bros"""""""" nintendo are!
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>>380438943
Don't hold your breath. Tanabe is directing this one, he also directed Federation Force
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>>380431271
You probably think that because you played Super over 100 times and AM2R once.
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>>380439082
>furries and degenerates upset they can no longer make easy autism bux by drawing pokemon getting fucked
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Can we hope that Mother Brain along with Ridley and Kraid returns? They were my favourite gruesome threesome.
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Next Level Games were mediocre before Nintendo got them to make the GOAT arcade sport games AND a good follow up to Luigi's Mansion. Fed Force was trash, but frankly that doesn't do enough to kill them in my eyes. So I'm willing to give Mercury Steam the benefit of the doubt in this one.

>>380439098
He's producing this, just like he produced all the other Prime games. Hell, he was the one most involved in MP1; Shiggy and Sakamoto were just figure heads while Tanabe was the one actually handling the day to day stuff and the communication between Retro and NCL.
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I drew this for this year's E3 collab.
I knew something was coming. I had it in my blood.
And now it's become true! Both 2D and 3D Metroid return!
This means so much to me.
Metroid is my favourite gaming series.
Metroid Prime my favourite game.
Metroid Prime Trilogy my favourite trilogy.

I'm playing AM2R right now and I will replay the entire series. Maybe even Other M, Fed Force and Pinball.

I'm gonna pre-order the special edition of Samus Returns and the amiibo two-pack. I have already pre-ordered the Corruption Samus Aran figma.

I love every single one of you. Life is beautiful.
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>>380439082
All I see is Nintendo purging the heretics
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>>380439227
>>380439334

nintenbros ladies and gentleman
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>>380439283
Expect Kraid in Prime but MSR will be following 2
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>>380437253
Metroids can only evolve on SR388, but they can still be a threat elsewhere. As we saw in Super, a metroid that sucks up enough energy to evolve but otherwise can't because of the environment simply gets fuckhuge. There's no reason to think that even larval form metroids couldn't fuck up the X.
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>>380439378
It's still fucking retarded, don't get me wrong, but do you really expect me to feel sorry for degenerate scum that want to make EZ Patreon money?
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>>380439082
And this is a bad thing how?
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>>380437805
Fusion retconned that just for the sake of having a cinematic moment.

It was an incredible ass-pull, just like everything related to Fusion's ending (absorbing the SA-X reverted your DNA to its original, non-metroid state, the collision of one small space station destroying an entire fucking planet etc.) and the remake will show us if they chose to keep that canon, but in the mean time, I didn't accept Other M's retcon of Super so I certainly won't take it from Fusion's ending either (at least until Return of Samus 3DS makes it official).
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>>380439469

A lot of those artists didn't even have patreons, some didnt even do commissions, they simply drew nintendo fanart and got fucked by big jewtendo. You're uninformed and have nothing to defend, nintenbro.

>>380439540

Seeing as nintendo themselves realized "Shit, we are fucking retard what the fuck are we doing" and stopped, I'd say very.
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>>380439321
>2-pack
aww man I just wanted the Metroid,another Samus seems like a waste. Also Metroid Pinball is solid
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>>380439664
Having less stupid porn around is never a bad thing.
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>>380439661
If you take what >>380438669 has to say, then Fusion's ending would make sense since you have the Plasma Beam too.
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>>380439664
Again, I don't feel much pity for them. It's fucking retarded of Nintendo to do this shit, but just because I'm not up in arms some faggots got their art taken down doesn't make me an apologist like you're wanting to crusade against. If you want people to rally to your stupid cause, why not go to Tumblr?
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so

back. yes or no?
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>>380439695
I'm sure they'll also be released individually. If you don't wanna keep them in package, you shouldn't have a hard time finding an opened Metroid.
I'd take a good look at the Samus amiibo before you decide against it though. That new armour looks tought and hot!
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>>380439823

Tumblr already rallied and popular artists spread the word so much nintendo stopped cause they realized they were losing sales. There were even posts going around how to hack your 3ds and pirate sun and moon after nintendo went apeshit taking down sun and moon porn.

Again this isnt a cause, we already won. I'm just letting you how much of a cuck you are defending a trash company.
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>>380425010
>guy remade metroid 2?
>kill it, make our own
And they say fan games are meaningless.
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>>380439912
Hopefully not. Prime 4 seems to just be a working title they wanted to use to let us know that we're getting a new FPA game.
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>>380439941
You keep calling me an apologist, I think you might have brain problems boy, and congrats on using the fedora of insults. Are you gonna post a pepe or wojak next?
Consider slitting your wrists, but make sure to go down and not across.
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>>380439774
Omegas didn't work like that in RoS.
They were, like all metroids, weak to missiles aimed at their core.

Explain to me, if ice is such a weakness to them, why an ice missile would just bounce off their core.
It should be twice as effective.
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>>380425010
>MercurySteam
Anyone excited for this deserves their inevitable disappointment.
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>>380439971
>Holy shit this guy is making M II from basically scratch
>ok sweep it under the rug once it gets "released" so nobody can complain about not playing it
>Let's fucking remake M II bois, they have this kind of spirit in them to gush about a fan remake
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>>380439914
Who wouldn't have the Metroid out? Keeping it in box is a waste of squishyness
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>>380440305
Damn, I didn't think of this. I got a great bunch of Amiibos and except for Wooly Yoshi, they're all in packaging.
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>>380440082

Edgy, as autistic as expected from a nintenbro.
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>>380440094
>They were, like all metroids, weak to missiles aimed at their core.
Except larval metroids are immune to missiles. Explain that.
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>>380439971
>>380440172
Do you seriously think they started the development after the AM2R release?

>B-but AM2R started its own development a long time ago!
And it was named "another metroid 2 remake" for a reason, 99% of these fan projects are abandoned, so it wasn't their concern until the madman actually pulled it off.
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>>380425892
Graphically it looks worse just by it being 2D sprites instead of 3D models. That's just fact. You can say Aesthetically it looks better, and I'm partial to agree since I like my 2D games, but a bunch of stolen property in the end is nothing more than stolen property. At least this is completely new assets
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>>380440486
This'll be the last (you) you get from me, but better to be autistic than a limp-dicked numale such as yourself, good job on being a proud little keyboard warrior against an enemy that doesn't exist.
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>>380440506
Yep, that is the one stage (albeit the cheapest and most common one) where they are weak to ice, thus the whole "metroids are weak to ice" saying which is true in a way (since the majority of metroids are stuck in their first form) but does not apply to the original, SR388 evolution line of metroids.
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>>380430101
IMO the main problem was how they focused too much on making the animations seem as smooth, so the gameplay felt slow and sluggish compared to normal castlevania. It was also way too story focused with too many cinematic cuscenes compared to the few and short cutscenes castlevania usually have. Also, QTE's have no place in a 2D castlvania, really. Tbh, I think a lot of the issues with MoF was improved on from what we've seen.
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>>380440527
Yes, Japanese are the insane type of people who'll burn down your house for insulting they're waifu.
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>>380440172
You can bet that the game started development before they realized that AM2R was actually going to be completed.

A remake of Metroid 2 was always the natural next step after Zero Mission. It's the reason for why so many fans tried to remake Metroid 2 themselves. And the reason for why AM2R even started development.
Another Metroid 2 Remake, as the name implies. Wasn't the first attempt at a remake. It just so happened to be the only non-shit one that also reached completion.
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>zero mission agility
Nah, this thing's way slower. Samus was GUNNIN for things in ZM and I just don't see that sense of speed here, probably slowed it down to compensate with the zoomed in camera
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>>380431212
Retards like this wonder why no one will hire them, its because with all that facial shit they look like retards and dangerous ones. Had to tell my step brother not to wear his nose ring when going for a job interview.
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>>380425223
they already brought back the super metroid death animation so yeah they probably will

this is not a bad thing
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>>380430101
Iga quality doesn't exist. He was only a co-director in one game and a producer on the others. The man is a hack
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>>380430760
The original on Famicom Disk System
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>>380440986
Metroid 2 had a very small viewport because Samus took up like half the screen.
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>>380431017
I don't get this. Do you just like it because it's the "groundbreaking" one? It has worse level design and physics than ZM.
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>>380441485
Textbook nostalgia goggles
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>>380425010
I really hope prime 4 uses unreal engine 4.
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watching vinny play zero mission before the e3 direct only for two (2) metroid games to be announced
That was some meme magic.
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>>380441745
Can't be nostalgia goggles because I didn't have a Famicom as a kid. I didn't even play Metroid until I was in my teens and I started with Super and was heavily underwhelmed, the prime games did nothing for me and fusion just didn't feel right. The original actually seemed fun to me
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>release date September 15, 2017
Spread your love boys and buy this game. Pirate fags are either poor or should kill themselves.
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>>380441669
>It has worse level design and physics
Ultimate pleb.
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>>380441937
Piracy is only for PCPeasants
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>>380441937
Metroid fans who don't buy this deserve death
getting a nu-2DS XL and buying this and the amiibo as soon as it drops
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>>380441835
I know people IRL with genuine, mind boggling shit taste like that, so I'm willing to believe you're sincere.
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>>380441937
I'm still hesitant on it.
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>>380442134
I've stayed away from amibos so far but I'll probably break my vow for those two regardless of what they do
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Super>Fusion>Zero=AM2R>2>1
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>>380442317
>I've stayed away from amibos so far
You missed out. They are lovely figurines that just happen to have some digital funcionality. You don't even have to buy them all, just the ones that you like. It's not that different from buying an action figure or other kinds of merchandise of a game you love.
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>>380442452
Zero > Fusion = Super
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Is Prime 3 playable on dolphin with mouse/keyboard?
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>>380442452

Excellent taste.
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>>380442464
I'm not a figurine guy, but thanks for the salesman speech.
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>>380442464
Don't listen to him. They're practically useless. I owned over 70 of them and just sold them all at around $5 a piece just to get rid of the damn things. I was promised
Meaningful functionality and instead I got worse than Dlc. They look decent, but I don't buy toys anymore since I'm no longer 8 so that doesn't really matter to me. They aren't "put on my shelf $200+ a half naked anime waifu figurine" quality, which are also worthless pieces of junk no one should buy
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>>380442581
>Zero > Super
Begone plebian.
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>3DS at the end of its rope
>"well if they haven't done it now they'll probably never do it (on the 3DS)"
>Sold it a month ago
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>>380442452
Supe > AM2R > Zero > Fusion > 1 > 2

Primo 1 = Primo Supremo 2 > Primo Supremo 3 the linearing
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>>380442865
Thanks doc.
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>>380442671
>I was promised
>Meaningful functionality and instead I got worse than Dlc
That's why I wrote "that just happen to have some digital funcionality". As in, it's not their main draw. Their main thing is being statuines.
Besides, wew, I'm sure that guy will hear the opinion of someone that bought over 70 amiibo and then changed idea, losing money in the process.
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>>380443031
I'm not saying I was smart at the time, I'm saying I have since seen the light and don't want others to be as retarded as I was. As of right now there is no major use for any Amiibo. Mario Maker had the most in depth use and that didn't even require them
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>Sakamoto gives Team Ninja freedom and they fuck up
>Mercury Steam has Sakamoto barking orders next to them

He has been probably screaming into a pillow since ZM development when they forbid him to make Samus a fitgrill and used the Prime design. I want his shirt.
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>>380439912
sylux captured a metroid infant at the end of federation force and his ship was present on phaaze when dark samus died. my guess is she bodyhopped into him and stole the infant to raise an army of metroid primes WITHOUT the need of phazon.
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>>380431269
Yeah yeah lords of shadow the game kojima made and they had to follow.
Although if anything that shows their dedication, I mean they make mirror of fate without kojima and they still make it consistent with the previous games.
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>>380439082
>Making r34 for profit
They should do it for the sole purpose of giving people some fap fuel not money.
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>>380443501
I'm still salty Mercuty Steam gets a legit Metroid while Next Level games gets thrown under the bus with Fed Force WHILE THEY ALREADY HAD CONCEPT ART FOR A REGULAR METROID GAME
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>>380444001
>implying that concept art wasn't complete shit
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>>380444001
If Next Level was making this everyone would say it's shit thanks to Federation Force.
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>>380425010
I really wish this game wasn't 2.5D. It kills any excitement I have for this game because it looks so ugly.
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>>380443826
>Dasha Region far out from GF space
>DSully was passing through with the metroid in tow towards Phaaze's last coordinates
>finds out about "ultimate power"
>tries to obtain it as a backup plan
>fails
>prime 4 now
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>>380444001
That concept art was literally, and I mean literally, too edgy for a sleek design like the Varia suit.
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>>380426221
I'm glad to know I'm not the only person who thinks melee is fucking dumb in the game. Looks like it'll completely change how it feels to just walk around a level compared to the original metroid II or something like super.
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>>380444324
>>380444095
It was also concept art. The suit was whatever, but the monster design was great and shit I trust NLG enough to put faith in whatever they had in store. Them getting shat on with Fed Force despite making multiple critical darlings for Nintendo is incredibly unfair.
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>>380428940
new2dsxl is coming out this month quite cheap, get that
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SAMUS IS TRANS
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>>380444578
What
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>>380444497
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>>380444578
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>>380425627
took about 5 minutes to make a decent version you lazy cocksucker
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>>380442317
that cd looks amazing
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>>380442671
>I owned over 70
Why would you ever? Only buy the figurines of characters and or games you like. As in, when you would have bought a non-amiibo figurine of them even if amiibos weren't even a thing.

Don't buy amiibos if you don't like figurines. Just don't.
But if you do love figurines, then amiibos can be really cool.
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>>380442250
>NEW METROID GAME
>I don't know guys.... I'll probably just pirate it as a demo.....
Laughing at you
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>>380425141
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>>380446063
This, I have a pit one and plan to pick up a shulk and kirby one at some point. I love the new samus one however, might pick that up too.
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>>380433806
The key thing about the Aeon ability is it can also be used to super-charge your beam attacks.
So you might want to use it sparingly for when it really counts, instead of using it as a hint system.
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>>380442317
Whoa Whoa Whoa hold the fuking phone! I didnt hear anything about a special edition
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>>380425627

conceptual lol
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>>380446063
Word.
I predominantly buy Amiibo as decorative pieces in my game room.
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>>380445383
Not to mention, the question was "a secret only you know about Samus" and the guy who answered shemale was a background sprite artist who had no hand in the story or Samus' character whatsoever.
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>>380444497
>a strong hero being a woman isn't enough now
>it has to actually be a man pretending to be a woman
what the fuck happened
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3DS could look beautiful with sprites. But for some reason Nintendo decided it's a good idea to make everything 3D on a 240p screen.
>>
Is there any more pictures of the new and improved varia suit samus? She looks fucking beefy and I love it
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>>380447665
It's crazy how much some people distort reality to support their personal narrative. It's like they have some mental illness.
>>
>>380425892
This. I kinda wished they had made a new game rather than a remake
>inb4 you Metroid fans are never satisfied!!!
Iam pleased that this is releasing, and moderately good reviews will have be buy it, but I think a new story and some really new mechanics would be great.The counter and parry is cool but more story related gadgets and weapons or something
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>>380426705
Jack McBrayer is a treasure
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>>380442464

You're better off getting/making NFC cards if you want Amiibos functionality. Takes up WAY less space and works just as well.
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>>380431269
>S-STOP GETTING EXCITED
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>>380448042
Only thing there is so far is the render on the cover and the amiibo.
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>>380433348
>do it instantly
Or
>take an extra 3 seconds to manually scan

Wow what a difference.
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>>380442581
>>380442452
>fusion above anything

garbage taste

AM2R > Super = Zero >>>> Fusion
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>>380450183

>AM2R > Super
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>>380447908
Metroid doesn't sell that well.
Sprites are expensive.
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>>380425010
I'm pretty fucking excited for both games, Prime the most, but I wish Nintendo would put Returns on Switch. I don't have a 3DS, and I don't want one.

Returns will male get one though.
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>>380450403
Not gonna lie, it may have been my thirst for a 2d metroid again with that ranking.
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>>380450505

That's probably the case, AM2R has zero replayability. Even Fusion has better replayability.
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>>380450460
Same, I would love for Nintendo to put Returns on the Switch

In fact, every game should be on the switch
>>
I'm just glad that Prime being on Switch I can play a first person Metroid without waggle again.

MP's controller handling was fucking spot on.
>>
>>380450812

Controversial but correct opinion.
If you can't get space jump first you're a casual nigger.
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>>380450662
I don't understand why they won't do that. I suppose they don't want to lose 3DS sales, but I feel like with the Switch selling as well it is, it would be a good decision.
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>>380451040
Because it'd be more expensive to make and they're already making another Metroid for the Switch.
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>>380451381
I suppose so. I'm Just really want another 2D esque Metroid adventure on the big screen.

Oh well, I'm excited as hell for Prime.
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>>380441937
I'm glad the release date is this close. I can play it on my trip that following week.
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>>380425584
lol
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>>380432424
It's direct observations.
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>>380432449
>You don't have to play something to see it not running at LEAST 30 FPS
stream and game still in work.
>>
>>380434068
>>380433348
The pulse only reveal block where you use it, like the X ray, it doesn't reveal all of the block in all of the maps it unfog.
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>>380435239
No he gave some input on the development of Prime 1 and some supervision, but he was barely there.
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>>380425010
As someone who isn't a fan of Prime, I have to ask: Why does 2.5 D look so fucking terrible? Is it because it's half-assed /cheap looking 3D?

I knew we would eventually get another awesome 2D game, but I also kind of knew it would look gross so I had zero hype. I'm a bit sad I was right. At least the amiibo are fucking awesome looking.
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>>380435507
There's a thin line between genius an space birbs/moths.
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>>380436843
>the X can copy other species
>the Metroid can take DNA from other species to evolve
No, that's what the X do. Copy DNA and kill their host then evovle furthermor. Metroid are rahter fixed, they shtick is to steal life energy.
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>>380425010
shit son. I'm loving the look of her armor
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>>380425010
>>Super-esque level design
>>Fusion and Zero Mission agility and acrobatics
>>Other M melee counters
>>Prime sound design and effects

YES

>3DS

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>380436497
Never.

At least the Metroids are in balance with the rest of the eco-system. X overtake and destroy all.
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>>380438678
>>in OM the Feds casually breed out this weakness
>Almost forgot how retarded OM's plot was. Thanks for reminding me.
Uh, no, they needed the knowledge of Mother Brain to undo the weakness.
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>>380452902
Because the only time that they take time to make it work was NSMB DS
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>>380440094
>Explain to me, if ice is such a weakness to them, why an ice missile would just bounce off their core.
There was no Ice missile in Metroid 2.
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>People don't like prime
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>>380453375
>People don't like both
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>>380425010
>made by the developer that destroyed the Castlevania franchise
>BUT I DON'T CARE BECAUSE IT CONTAINS A CHARACTER THAT I LIKE
Enjoy getting fucked in the ass.
>>
>Zelda is great again
>mario is great again
>kirby is great again
>METROID IS GREAT AGAIN

Fzero when?
>>
>>380452902
>Why does 2.5 D look so fucking terrible?
It's more the 240p of the screen.

Look better than Hunter anyway.
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>>380453564
I don't get why people can't just split the difference and accept that they're the best of their respective dimensions. It's just obnoxious semantics to argue between 2D and 3D.
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>>380425510
Not that I disagree but saying "these things are good" with no explaining why doesn't tell someone with no idea anything.
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>>380453975
give me a Murasame Castle reboot
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>>380453993

I wonder why the Zelda series doesn't have this kind of shitposting. OoT translated aLttP to 3D as well as Prime translated Super Metroid.
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>>380425627
TWO GAAAAAAAAAAAAAMES
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>>380425324
Hi Dobson.
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>>380429697
this
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>>380425928
top kek
>>
I know it's for the 3DS.
But that only means that the next one will be on the Switch, right?

Can you imagine it? A remake of Super Metroid on the Switch?
>>
>>380455310
They'd fuck it up.
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>>380455385
It doesn't need to be as good for as long as it's still good, and most importantly, different enough to feel like its own game.
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>>380454179
You'll just have to play it to find out, but some notable examples are:

>The level designs are beautiful and unique with plenty of goodies to find in each (Maridia, Phendrana Drifts, Sanctuary Fortress no name a few from various games)

>The music is a perfect complement of the area/fight

>the stories, while pretty linear, let you explore and reward you for doing so. Enemies are fun to fight yet challenging enough to keep you on your toes.

Just a couple examples off the top of my head. If you really want to find out tho just play Super Metroid or Prime. Just try to avoid Other M imo
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>>380436713
>>worst Fire Emblem
FE6 isn't even on this system
>>worst Pokemon
I guess this counts since it can play RBY, BC with D/P
>>worst Smash Bros
Brawl is still worst
>>worst 3D Mario
Sunshine is m8
>>worst 2D Mario
Agreed
>>worst Mario & Luigi
Partners in Time is DS
>>worst Paper Mario
Agreed
>>worst second-worst Metroid
Even if you believe this, I doubt that a remake of the ACTUAL second worst game in the series would be worst.

You could have just said it has the worst Mario Kart and worst DKC game. Atleast you would be right in that regard
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>>380455310
i'd rather get an original 2d metroid
enough with remakes
Still gonna get this one tho
>>
>>380439283
I could see Ridley and Kraid being like secret boss fights

Not Mother Brain though due to what happens afterwards
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>>380439098
Tanabe wants to expand the lore of the universe.
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>>380439941
>Tumblr already rallied and popular artists spread the word so much nintendo stopped cause they realized they were losing sales

This is complete nonsense.
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>>380456117
>enough with remakes
well, all the remake are done, now, so no need to worry about that anymore.
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>>380456117
Ironically Super Metroid was pretty much a remake in itself.
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