>creativity coming back >unique characters and settings

>>380375024

I tried replaying Superstar Saga recently and it has some long and boring sequences.

I am however super endeared to loyal bowser minions trying to rescue him. I want more of this

>>380375024
>>tutorials now 100% optional like in Paper Jam
Do we know this for a fact? I'd love not being forced to go on those stupid little tutorial courses for every new field move again.

>>380375452
dont know if they can be skipped ouright, but that fast-forward button from PJ is back.

>>380375024
To be fair they got away with it because it' a remake of game made when Nintendo wasn't creatively bankrupt.

But Bowzuh's Minions seems to be piling on a bit of new M&L lore, like how Sergeant Guy came to be

>>380376240
Ah yeah, I saw it used in Bowser's Minions.

>>380376775
>game made when Nintendo wasn't creatively bankrupt.
Holy shit dude, have you seen Super Mario Odyssey? Mario has never been more creative.

Too bad the title's a mess. And that none of the M&L games have ever been as well designed as the first in any way.

I'll admit I've only ever played Paper Jam, and that was hard to finish since I found it so boring. Are the story and characters much better in SS?

>all beanbean kingdom enemies replaced by their more familiar, safer mushroom kingdom equivalents
>"""creativity""" coming back

>>380377097
Low quality bait

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>>380375024
I hope this & Odyssey coming might mean Paper Mario will get at least original characters & new creative enemies again in it's next game. I know Tanabe said he had no plans for that to happen a half a year ago but it seems like this series is starting to take a sharp turn back into being creative. Too bad no matter what happens Paper Mario will still have shit gameplay probably, I don't trust this current team with making a another new system.

>>380375024
>literally the same game that you played 14 years ago
>SO CREATIVE BASED NINTENDO! HOW DO THEY DO IT!?

nintentards should be euthanized

>>380378030
except now it has low effort 2.5D graphics that look way worse than the original sprite art.

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>>380375024
>X is back!!!!*
>*by replaying a 14 year old game in a worse art style and a small add-on

>>380377635
For starters, there are original races and characters.
Second, the writing is snappier.
Third, the pacing is much better.
Fourth, the battles are harder and the special moves are both more intuitive and fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EbggLt513s

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Where she is?

>>380377714
>all beanbean kingdom enemies replaced by their more familiar, safer mushroom kingdom equivalents
Since when? It's just a graphics update plus a new scenario.

>supernut.jpg

>>380378298
This is pretty much Iwata's anthem.

Daily reminder that Nintendo went down the shitter as soon as he became President.

>>380378298
Isn't the DT/PJ/SSSDX style still just sprite art?

>>380378729

yes

>>380377714
Proof where?

Post proof

Don't show Bowser Minion gameplay

>>380377097
He's specifically talking about the spin offs.

>>380378729
shh don't interrupt their narrative

>>380378853
That still doesn't make sense, the only spin-offs that have been accused of being sterilized are the Mario RPGs, Paper Jam was a fluke for M&L (thanks to Paper Mario) and it's already rebounding from it. Tanabe needs to take some fucking notes.

>>380378865
It gets annoying when /v/ shitposts every M&L that isn't SSS and now they're shitposting even its remake.

I was disappointed about the DT sprite style at first but I think the Cackletta's Soul battle is going to look amazing with it

>>380378729
>DT/PJ/SSSDX
what the fuck does this even mean

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>>380378729
>>380378865
>that look way worse than the original sprite art
Read the whole sentence next time

>>380379034
>the Mario RPGs
and most certainly the sports games and party games

>>380375024
>>creativity coming back
It's a remake.

>>380379274
Initials for the M&L sequels, what the hell's wrong with you

>>380377448
Butt hurt paper Mario fan

>>380379316
But it's not 2.5D or worse. It's just the same shit with better shading and more consistent proportions. Shit, some of Bowser's overworld sprites were bad in SSS, they didn't get a handle on him until BiS.

>>380379274
Dream Team/Paper Jam/SuperStar Saga DX

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>>380379365
>>380378030
>>380375024

>>380379365
yea and they could have sterilized the remake you fucking mong

>still the beanbean kingdom and not the toadtoad kingdom

>>380379560
>Thinking SSS is the best Mario RPG means you're a butthurt Paper Mario fan

You fuckers make no sense.

Is there a battle theme out yet? I want to hear how they remixed the original

The stream only showed the boss fight theme.

>>380379564
But it clearly is 2.5D It looks like fucking ass.

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>>380375024
>all these years
>still no wario & waluigi spinoff

>>380379820
>boss fight theme
WHERE

>>380375024
Why are you doing this

you already know that paper mario fans know that the series is fucked

why are you doing this

>>380380079
Nintendo is 100% corporate. They only make what they think will sell to casuals. It's why you get a shit ton of Kirby games. They hate making metroid/zelda and shit because it takes effort and only sells a few million. And they will never touch their lower selling franchises like F-zero or wario land.

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>>380379564
>lack of any and all definition or sharpness
>oversaturated colors and shadows
>character sprites looking completely disconnected from the floor/backgroudn
>better

>>380375024
But to be fair, didn't someone suggest to Risa Tabata in an interview that people might be interested in PM1/2 HD and she didn't completely dismiss the idea?

>>380380194
The stream, they played the monument guardian on the mountain challenge and fought the guardian boss.

>>380380296
Apparently TTYD fans haven't known that yet

>>380380434
Nintendo fans think higher tech (still tech from early 2000s)= looks better. People saying this looks better would say fire emblem shadow dragon looks better than the GBA games.

>>380380194
They fought that one midboss, Hoohooros during the stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm1lHm9jzC0

Got to say I'm genuinely happy the bros attacks look to be the save as the original game instead of being long and flashy like the recent 3ds games.

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>>380379857
>I don't know what 2.5D means.
It's just more detailed shading and a different style.

In some ways it's better, in some ways it's worse. It really just comes down to personal preference. In this comparison, the animations are better but the color choice is inferior. In the scene when they get to the castle the 3DS version is vastly superior. When the Bowser Ship picks up Luigi, the GBA version looks way better.

>>380380296
Not him but a shit ton of Paper Mario fans all shat on Paper Jame like it was Alpha-Dream's fault Paper Mario is bad now

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>>380379857

>2.5D

SSS+ uses pre-rendered backgrounds with 3D lighting effects.

>>380380807
It's worse in every way. How fucking shit could your taste be?

>>380380434
>>380380681
>Better Shading = Univerally better in every regard
>Let's just shove words into the mouths of anyone with different opinions than us, that way we win the internet argument!

Christ, you fuckers are insufferable.

SuperStar Saga is the only ML games where I LIKED the tutorials. I found each group of red and green friends/brothers funny, probably because they only get a couple of scenes each.

I think if the future games didn't relegate the tutorials to uninteresting Starlow or Toadsworth or whatever, they wouldn't be as grating.

>>380380807
Just remembered this is the game where absolutely nobody remembers Luigi's name. He actually gained some respect in-universe as each game came by, so it'll be funny to revisit his humble beginnings.

>>380381165
Who the fuck cares about the shading when your game looks like dogshit.

>>380380962
Yes, Mario's animation actually fucking matching the perspective of the background is worse than a flat side view because [xxx]! It's just universally worse and you have to have shit taste to recognize any form of improvement!

Like for real nigger open your goddamn eyes instead of being a retarded ass fanboy. Just because it's not how you remember it doesn't mean there are no improvements whatsoever.

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>>380375024
>unique characters and no starlow

yes...

YES...!

>>380381423
>fanboy

You can say all the stupid technical stuff you want the game still looks like complete ass. None of this gay shit matters. You are grasping at straws to defend this remake no one asked for that looks worse than the original.

So, what's the deal with that Goomba on the cover? Did he get a flagpole jammed into his head or something? Poor guy...

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>>380375024
>creativity coming back
>unique characters and settings returning

I'm so sorry anon

>>380375024
I was about to play the original on my 3DS a few days before the announcement. Should I bother playing it now?

>>380380870
If Alpha Dream developed it then it's their fault the game is shit. Though Paper Mario was already in the toilet at that point.

>>380381696
>"The perspective isn't entirely fucked for once."
>Stupid technical stuff

You just sound like a moron who can't deal with anything less than complete adoration or vehement disapproval of a game.

I want to see NEW (good) games, not remakes of games that I played when I was a teenager.

Why the fuck is this allowed?

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>>380381812
>shows Bowser's Minion screen shots

Meanwhile, the trailer showed the little bean dudes, the fat frog boss, and the stream showed the monument guardian, all looking the same.

>>380381812
I get the feeling Nintendo just straight up doesn't allow shit like that anymore. It's stupid and nonsense, especially considering it's okay when Miyamoto gives Goombas more than one design, but that seems to be their stance on this stuff.

>>380378510
>she

Why is Starlow so hated? I though he (or she? Whatever the fuck it is) was alright in Bowser's Inside story.

>>380381979
Shadow of the Colossus Remake looks pretty good doesn't it? And those VR ports are looking pretty sick man. Ended up pre-ordering the Crash Trilogy remake after seeing some more gameplay today too

>>380381954
And you are a faggot trying to nitpick the original to make the dogshit remake look competent.

The perspective means jack shit WHEN THE GAME LOOKS LIKE ASS

>>380380871
that shot looks incredible. Why cant we just enjo two different takes on the same adventure?

Its like the fags who argued that conker reloaded didnt look exactly like the n64. Like what the fuck? In the end you get to play the game in a new way.

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>still no Wario

>>380382490
>>380375024
Think they'll replace the E. Gadd cameos with the cameos that were originally meant to be there in the coffee shop?

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>>380382402

it's new and different and therefore bad because reasons

>>380380807
I hope changing the backdrop there is just a one off thing to keep with the shitty NSMB style they use for Peach's castle now.

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I'm just so happy to see Fawful back, and with NEW LINES in the minions spin-off. Best Mario villain fight me Bowserfags.

>>380381812
you're a retard
>>380382295
you're an asbolute fucking retard. kill yourself for thinking something that speaks for the party and takes away from mario's personality while being an insufferable annoying, demanding cunt who points out the obvious can ever be anything remotely "alright"

starlow was one of the worst things to happen to the series. Mario is a snore because of her

>>380382402
This, a remake is never the exact same as its original. If you want the old sprites just go play the GBA version

>>380382401
>The perspective means jack shit WHEN THE GAME LOOKS LIKE ASS...in my opinion
FTFY

No need to thank me.

>>380382295
she's mean to luigi for no reason and she gets to put words in the main character's mouth.

navi-like helpers are generally disliked, they tried to make her sassy like goombella but it just came across like overbearing.

>>380375024
dammit, when was THIS fucking shown?
i hate that i only watched like the first fucking hour
i fucking hate this wasn't just an hour long thing and i could go back to my fucking day!

>>380380681

I think this is one of those cases the imposed limitations of GBA sprites worked in its favor, Superstar Saga is colorful, full of character and everyone looks on model. Aside from smoothing the lines there's nothing to improve, that's the problem.

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>>380382630
that area looks comfier than I remember. I digs it.

>>380382630
>because reasons

why does ever assblasted redditor do this?

>>380382630
Holy shit, I love how that looks. I really like the color use & lighting in it.

>>380382659
>Fawful
>Best boss
>Not appreciating Fawful and Cackletta working together
Sad!

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>>380382490
>Still no Wario AND Waluigi
ftfy

>>380382795
Which is why no one wanted a remake.

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>>380382774
>repeated countless fucking times that the treehouse would have new announcements and more gameplay footage

>HURR I GUESS ILL TURN OFF THE STREAM THAT IMMEDIATELY SWITCHES TO THE TREEHOUSE AFTER REGGIE LEAVES.

i've seen so many of you stupid fucks who jump the gun after the spotlight and rush to /v/ to shitpost, and i have no sympothy for you. Lurk more, retard. It's been this way the past, what, 3 years? Eat shit. Every fucking year with you idiots.

Is this it bros? Is this the end of fucking Starlow?

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>>380382630
Reminds me a lot more of Star Hill than the original's, I approve.

>>380382795
>everyone looks on model
nigga, have you seen Bowser's OW sprite from that game?

>>380382630
Whoa, where is this from? I thought they stopped streaming the game awhile ago

tfw wario land shake it is the last good looking game Nintendo will ever make

lazy faggots and their enabling fanboys.

>>380375024
I hate the 3D models. All of it looks so lifeless. I just wanted a good M&L game, but I'll have to just live with my old gba copy.

>>380379083
Maybe because the other M&L games just aren't good?
Nobody posts shit about SMRPG/PM/TTYD

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>>380383301

Press release screens.

>>380383367
There are no 3d models in this, not even for the enviroments

>>380382630
This looks like one of those example pics people use for sprite art that's not feasible for game development.

>>380382734
Objectively the artstyle in the remake looks worse. There is no arguing this.

>>380383510
Fuck off

>>380383367
There aren't any though

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>>380383510

>>380383510
are you sure about that? I did see in the trailer that apparently, the game is in 2D only. I can see it actually being 2D, but it feels like there's background stuff that was made as 3D models first or something. Either that or it's drawn in some other way that isn't pixel art, with all the characters/enemies being sprites.

>>380383410
link and pass pls?

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So what would actually be the best subtitle?

Partners in Crime?

A Friend in Greed?

Men of Steel?

Army of Boo?

$uperstar $aga?

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>>380383298
It's really only this sprite.
Problem is they use this sprite CONSTANTLY.

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>>380383582
>Objectively

>>380384175
>being a vapid relativist

>>380383836
It's because Alpha Dream does really, really good baked lighting. It has such good lighting that it looks like models. That's all.

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>>380378510
>she

I'm so sorry, anon.

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>>380383882
I found this while looking

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>>380383410
purease?

>>380384280
You get that one out of "word-a-day" calendar sport? Come back when you actually know the meaning of the words you're using, then you'll actually be as smart as you pretend to be, mm'kay?

>>380384349
NOICE

>>380382153
>>380381812
Bowser's Minions has traditional Mario enemies fighting Beanbean Kingdom enemies. The blue Koopa is fighting with the BeanBean Kindom side, hence it's clearly the same enemy from the main game.

They will look like that in the main game, just wait.

>>380383890
Call it Wario and Waluigi
The two of them crudely draw over Mario and Luigi's names with marker
And underneath it says "The Best", also in crude marker

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http://nintendo.e3press.com
Name: nintendo
pass: MarioE32017
Thank me later

STARLOW IS FUCKING GONE

THANK GOD

YES

FINALLY WE CAN GET BACK TO "ADVENTURE WITH THE MARIO BROTHERS"

INSTEAD OF "WATCH 2 DUDES GET BITCHED OUT BY A CUNT WITH WINGS"

>>380380807
IDK. The remake looks ok and'll probably play fine. However, I miss good old sprites in general.

>>380384745
wtf I hear sirens outside my house now

what did you do

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>>380380807
How the fuck in all my years of playing this game did I never notice Peach's castle in the background

>>380384558
>Being so lowIQ you think vapid and relativist are big words

GOOMBA IS CUTE

CUTE

>>380384745
GUYS MY COMPUTER TURNED OFF AND MY PHONE IS RINGING, WHAT DO I DO

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>everyone was hyped af when the game was datamined from the eShop
>game revealed
>everyone trying their goddamn damnedest to poke holes and doomsaying

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>>380385191

>>380384349
>nintendo switch

>>380385178
>Being so lowIQ that you need to use shit from a word-a-day calendar to make yourself seem smart.
sad desu

>>380385396
That's the official fact sheet from the press site, you can also see it on nintendoeverything.com, or check the press site since someone's already posted the login.

>>380385371
>everyone

Paper Mariofags is not "everyone"

>>380375024
Good. I don't want another Paper Mario game. The first one and TTYD are goat the rest are pure shit.

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>yfw the whole trilogy gets remaked

>>380383890
>>380384696
>still wanting Waluigi

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>>380384745
you motherfucker I swear to god im going to find you

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>>380382659
Just remembered they might finally fix his battle theme in the remake, since in the japanese version both him and Cackletta share the music.

>>380383890
It really is shocking to me that Nintendo still hasn't gone this route. It seems like the most obvious idea to me.

>>380385650
>trilogy
>series has 5 games
What did he mean by this?

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>>380384745
BASED

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>>380383890

Fiends With Benefits

>>380379318
Mariokart 8 was pretty good

>>380377448
Well good thing this is the first..

>>380379724
This comic is unfunny and fails to make its point

>>380377739
Low quality bait

>>380387454
He's talking about shit like the recent Tennis/Golf games that sucks out all life and character from the series. Why is that so hard to get?

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>>380385550
>this M+L versus Paper Mario meme

stop that. Paper Mario 2 is my favorite game of all time and I am beyond stoked for this remake.

>>380385654
I want to see what they can do with him

>>380384349
Man, back when 3DS was new and they announced classic games were going to be made in 3D, my dream was Superstar Saga being made with an extra chapter.
Now it's legit.

>>380381207
They were fine the first time. Beyond that, they're still tedious.

>>380387869
But....wha-?

>>380382490
Good. Fuck Wario.

>>380375170
I'm still not sure what the "+ Bowser's minions" entails. Do you play as them or are they just featured in bro attacks now?

>>380386402
The trilogy of good M&L games

>>380384745
the fuck is this?

>>380388994
It's a another game thrown in. It's a RTS.

>>380388994
It's a side story campaign

>>380388456
Retrace your steps in that exchange. Why did you bring up Mario Kart 8? They were talking about how Mario spin offs recently have taken out a lot of the personality they had during the Gamecube/Wii era.

>>380389173
>>380389184
I just watched the trailer and now I get it. Looks cool but I dunno if I'll bother dusting off my 3ds even to pirate it.

Wait, will Bowser's Minions fight Popple and Rookie since that is (supposedly) where Bowser is during that mode?

>>380385574
Paper Mario 'fans' who only like the first two games are the worst types of fandoms really. Because they complain 100x more than actual Paper Mario fans.

What does a little soda call his father?
Pop!

>>380381812
Oh fuck no. Of course they couldn't keep that consistent. One thing that made Superstar Saga so great was that it took the Mario elements and molded them in a unique style, while adding its own things.

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Can we all agree that Paper Jam was terrible?

Like hol-ee fuck, I thought the "Toad eveywhere" was a meme but that shit straight up killed any enjoyment I had with that game.

STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING

GET MORE TOADS

LISTEN TO THEIR GODAWFUL DIALOGUE

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Anyone else excited that we're finally going to get a Boss Rush and possibly even a post game?

That was one of the few issues with the original. And they're almost certainly going to rectify it.

Also, we'll probably get a minigame house, so we don't have to go all over to replay the barrel game or the casino game.

They'll almost certainly fix up the Shroom Pants and how OP they were, which means they might even re-balance a bunch of stats or even make a hard mode.

It's possible they could even bring back the cameos and just let E. Gadd run the coffee shop too .

>>380391214
wait boss rush is confirmed? All the flyer says is minions mode.

>>380383890
All Four One.

>>380391214
Nintendo cameos and cameos become boss fights/friendly sparring please

>>380391989
yfw the cameos are locked behind amiibos

>>380391408
Every M&L since BiS has had a Boss Rush, they'll probably add it in. There will probably be some new additions to complement the old, as well, such as expanding on bean brewing and some of the minigames. There will also probably be some new enemies judging by the minion mode gameplay, since it contains enemies that aren't in the original such as Ice Bros.

What I'm curious of is whether the Geno cameo in that one minigame will stay.

>>380392553
this is what will determine everything for smrpg's fate

>>380377714
Proof? Cause Beanies were already shown.

>>380378510
>she

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>>380377714
shut the fuck up

>>380389260
>>380387869
Wasn't the latest golf pretty good?
The WiiU tennis was fucking horrible though. I don't know what they were thinking.

>>380377448
>And that none of the M&L games have ever been as well designed as the first in any way.
Well I have good news for you, anon.

>>380391408
If you pay attention to the Treehouse preview, you'll notice the enemies are listed along with their levels too, like in Paper Jam. While this is most likely a remnant of that game's engine, it could also mean some bosses will get rematches and Boss Rush (other than Popple & Rookie).

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>>380382490
>>380383019
>>380383890
>>380387156

Has anyone actually thought about what the gameplay would entail?

My idea would be to play one duo at a time, swapping when they run into each other for a "boss" encounter (sometimes against each other). Because the plot of the game revolves around a treasure that could destroy the world or something...

>>380393825
>Wasn't the latest golf pretty good?
>sucks life and character

You're still not getting it. We're not talking about quality of the game. We're talking about the lack of personality/character.

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>>380375024
I miss the original sprites but fuck it, unlike the 3DS Metroid game, Nintendo actually fucking cares about Mario&Luigi and this is sure to be great

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>>380394372
>unlike the 3DS Metroid game,

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>BiS
>Bowser's inside Story

Why do does /v/ forget how acronyms work only for this game?

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>>380394635
fuck off
AM2R will always be superior. Also nothing will beat the stuff the dev added in like seeing the marines get fucked, or the timed explosion segment. Also the cliff at the top of the planet was great. The new 3DS Metroid game is by mercurystream the idiots that did the 3DS Castlevania games so DROPPED
>2.5D 30fps Metroid 2 remake
>244p graphics
>from the developers of this pile of shit
Oh boy, I can't wait!
Same engine as Mirror of Fate, same slow-motion block-counter move as Mirror of Fate, same floaty movement, same 30 FPS lock with dips way below that (you can clearly see the trailer going sub 30 FPS multiple times) and most importantly, MercurySteam logo at the end.
It's also been casualized, if you die in a boss battle, you get spawned by the boss room. So no, 3D is always a mistake. Bloodstained looked awful and so does Metroid Samus Returns

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WAIT WHAT IS THIS
I FUCKING LOVE THIS GAME
I NEED A RUNDOWN FAST

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>>380384745
Muh nigguh.

>>380394814
Boy, can't wait to see this every fucking day in five different threads at a time.

>>380389031
remaking superstar saga three times seems excessive

>>380392553
>What I'm curious of is whether the Geno cameo in that one minigame will stay.
Probably will. They just allowed a Geno costume in smash so they're clearly not against licensing it out.

>>380383890
Mario&Luigi: Italians&Jews

>>380375024
>creativity is coming back
>in a fucking remake
Lol.

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>>380384745
Should I try it?

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>>380395538
>Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga Remake
>Totally revamped graphics (like the current 3DS games) & music
>Optional Tutorials (like Paper Jam)
>Optional Speed-up during cutscenes (like Paper Jam)
>Emergency Block from Paper Jam implemented
>Bros. Moves are still there like normal
>The original idle animations are unchanged

>New Bowser's Minions Mode/Story
>Story takes place during Superstar Saga
>Involves Bowser's minions trying to save him
>Has it's own new gameplay style

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI54_yxpwkY

Demonstration showing off gameplay (shows off the Hoohooros minigame & boss and the Bowser's Minions mode explaining it in detail.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm1lHm9jzC0

Screenshots:
>>380382630 >>380383410 >>380384349

There's probably other shit I'm forgetting, it's looking pretty good so far though in my opinion.

>>380375024
>Tried to play M&L SS twice
>Got really far twice
>Lose my save files twice
I guess the universe was telling me to wait for the remake. I love the franchise but Partners in Time is still the only game I actually managed to finish.

It's a surprise this wasn't shown during the actual Direct.

>>380382295
Starlow's a cutie in Bowser's Inside Story. I haven't played any games beyond that, though.

>>380397541

The biggest thing I'm excited about is that Luigi gets to go to the front again, and that Bros moves that are taught in the field actually get used in battle, as if the Bros. are actually applying what they've learnt, rather than putting a puzzle together with random pieces and going "HEY LET'S USE THIS LOLSORANDUM SHURIKEN METEOR SHIT".

>>380384745
guys what does this do

>>380391214
I'd love to see the Bean Bean characters fleshed out and available for a revisit. Kinda bummed out during my first playthrough when I couldn't see the new characters after their roles were finished.

>>380380807
Oh wow the original blows the remake out of the water in this scene

>Popple's theme remade
YESSSS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYLQl98orI
Will this be the battle theme, or will they remaster it again?

>>380398964
This was exactly my problem with the new bros moves.

Post idle animations!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOQGRrC7A_Q

>>380399378
I hope they remaster it again because that arrangement sounded like shit
Boss theme sounds pretty good

>>380384745
what sorcery is this?

>>380398964
>The biggest thing I'm excited about is what was in the original game
ok

>>380381812
I always thought Troopea were supposed to be based on Shellcreepers, not Troopas.

IF THEY FUCK UP FINAL CACKLETTA THEME ILL KILL EVERYTHING

Excellent. Can't play this on my DS Lite due to buttons being jammed or whatever. Well a decade ago.

>>380375334
love this art.

>>380381812
why is modern nintendo so autistic about on-modelness to the point of rejecting any remotely unique artistic liberty

>>380397541
god the 60 fps is so great.

>>380399948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6e0CGXOS2Q
>impyling Shimomura won't make it sound amazing with the higher quality organs

>>380399948
>>380400332

Why is Shimomura so good at making final battle themes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rg2QdJbTzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8xRPcSgOgU

>>380399628
Turns out the original game happens to be the best by far.

>>380400584
yeah but people like you and op are acting like it's brand new

>>380399948
You're over here bitching over a shitty theme when I'm hoping Shimomura doesn't botch Popple's theme

>>380400390
>not posting the GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6M2xt_Ks4Y

she seriously does some voodoo magic

>>380397541
Goddamn, that Hoohooros fight looks gorgeous.

>>380380807
that new version on the right looks so much better

>>380400690
It's a new coat of paint with a whole bunch of tune ups for a game that was already fantastic.

Since the original was so good already, and everything after has been slightly (or significantly) less good, I think the excitement's warranted.

>>380399948
Cackletta Soul sounded like shit.
Now THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeLrE1QCmxc

is there any changes to gameplay? Like how chopper bros is overpowered as shit

>>380380807
I'd probably think left looked okay if right didn't exist. It's definitely a downgrade though.

>>380384745
it took me to their actual press kit and i can download official press statements. Is what i just did illegal? should I be worried?? Im only halfway computer literate.

I hope this causes more Rookie porn to be made, such an underrated character.

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I hope you're ready for this part again.

superstar saga had the worst final boss of any mario$luigi game

>>380400980
Take a look at the trailer.

They're balancing out most of the Bros. Moves and some of the equipment.

>>380401418
Fuckoff, that title goes the Shroobs, double so in the Western version since they're so damn spongey.

>>380401360
There was nothing wrong with this part. You have to actively TRY to let Peach get stolen in order to fail.

The only really meh part of the game came while traveling to Joke's End, which would have been ok except there really wasn't a post game to make up for the last travel segment.

>>380401418
Nah, that goes to PiT for having a boring wall of a boss followed by a drawn out counter 'fight'

>>380401418
Elder Princess Shroob dragged on way too much, and Dark Star Core was really fun mechanically but way too easy.

>>380375334
>Luigi still doesn't have his striped socks back
Why?

>>380400943
this song and the battle were better than the other Cackletta fights. Superstar Saga blew its load halfway through the game. Then literally had nowhere to go, so they just randomly revived Cackletta and fused her with bowser.

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>>380401418
DUDE 6500 HP LMAO

>>380375024
>it has that ugly pre-rendered look the last two games had instead of traditional sprites
Fucking dropped

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>>380401360
>That part is completely reimagined
>Peach gets kidnapped but by the time you come over to rescue her she's already beaten the shit out of the gritty goombas with a frying pan
>Peach decides to tag along with you as a temporary third party member instead of an escort

Would this make that area the best?

>>380401821
>another retard can't tell these are sprites
alphadream did such a good job

>>380383098
God willing. I'm also looking forward to a new Popple Battle arrangement.

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>>380401821
>instead of traditional sprites
Just say you prefer the original style. Don't be ignorant.

>>380397541
>adding emergency guard
ree casuals etc

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>>380401821
...but DT and PJ do have traditional sprites.

https://tcrf.net/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga#Starbeans_Cameos

>>380401789
>>380401687
>>380401659
elder princess had a great theme (unlike cackletta) and her massive health was balanced by your massive damage because bros. items were broken

You think the last Fawful fight will still play Popple music instead of the Cackletta theme like it was supposed to?

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HOLD UP

Is the battle theme still there?

>>380402313
This. Will we get all of the original cameos? Will Geno appear in the minigame?

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>>380397541
LADS

>>380401789
>he had the Amerifat version

>>380402427
Even if it was a Mii costume, they got Geno in Super Smash Bros.
Good chance he's still in.

>>380401920
>Prince Peasley as a third member
Don't get me dreaming

>>380400980
I watched a bit of the fight against Hoohooros, the regular jump attack now has the thing where when you time the first hit perfectly you do a flip and get to do another jump.
Don't have a 3DS but if I were interested in this remake I'm not sure how I'd feel about that...

>>380402063
>pre-rendered
>traditional
Just say you prefer the new style.

>>380384745
based fucking anon
I'll be sure to write to you from prison

>>380402651
The sprites aren't pre-rendered though.

I'm more excited for the remixed music.
I beat SSS 15 times when I was a kid. Awesome game but I can't take another playthrough. I'll probably pirate it just for that bowser's minions game.

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>>380397541
>"it's a nice homage to other mario titles where you have like audiences watching things"
DON'T YOU FUCKING TAUNT US FAGGOT, THE TTYD REMAKE HAD BETTER BE COMING SOON

My favorite running joke was how hundreds of mushroom kingdom coins were only worth <10 bean coins. Mostly because it implied the Mushroom Kingdom's economy is Zimbabwe level of pathetic.

>>380402728
They're reminiscent of the style of the last two games. Even if it isn't actually the same, it's trying to ape it. There's nothing wrong with the old style.

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>yfw they replace Geno with Starlow

>>380402998
>running joke
>brought up once

>they changed the idle animations
baka

>>380403218
Twice

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>put Popple in Dream Team
>don't remix his theme for the fight and give him the generic boss theme instead
THIS IS THE TIME TO REDEEM YOURSELVES, NINTENDO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3KWrUpGe_4

>>380402960
>wanting a TTYD remake

What could they possibly add other than giving it a 16:9 aspect ratio?

I HAVE CHORTLES

>>380403218
Not him, but both Tolstar and totallynotcackletta bring it up.

>>380402391
We don't know
The trailer had music over the entirety of it, which covered up the theme during battle segments, and the gameplay demonstration only showed off a boss battle (which had a remixed boss theme) and the Bowser's Minion mode.

>>380403328
Prince Peasly as well, his bet of 1000 (Mushrrom Kingdom) coins

>>380399807
They were, hence the Fighter Flies in Stardust Valley.
>Modern Nintendo failed to realize the obvious homages to Mario Bros.
Stagnation indeed.

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>>380380871
>>380382659
>>380397541
>>380403323
>Fawful in motherfucking DT/PJ spritework
I HAVE FUCKING EXCITEMENT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeLrE1QCmxc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCd7XMkudfg

>>380402391
You can hear the battle theme during the treehouse gameplay.

It's souped up, but not as good as the original, imo.

>>380403428
it was 1 million

>>380403306
>doesn't recognize you
>doesn't get his own music
Popple in DT was such a blue balls moment.

>>380403323
Fuck that shit.
They changed him in BiS.

Reminder Bowser's Minions are doomed to fail.
Fawful is probably going to beat the shit out of them at the last level so Cackletta can take Bowser's body.

>>380403494
>You can hear the battle theme during the treehouse gameplay
where? there's only the boss fight

>>380401789
The non-US versions of Partners in Time adjusted the health for enemies. Actually, the other versions of SSS and PiT had a bunch of improvements and rebalances in general, like nerfing the Mush badges.

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>>380380807
Here are the color palette's for both.

Right has a much darker and softer color palette, left is trying to stick with the NSMB style too hard with its colors and in general has a washed out, bright aesthetic that is sort of hard on the eyes because of it.

>>380403494
Boss theme sounds better.

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>>380403662
>they'll find Bowser while he's Rookie and he won't recognize them
>then Popple and Bowser beat them up and leave

>>380403673
Ah shit, you're right. It was the boss theme that I didn't like. Whoops.

>>380403662
Well that's a downer ending.

>>380403662
>Bowser's Minions are doomed to fail
Well, yeah.

>>380403328
>>380403428
Oh, my bad. I thought the bet was the only time they brought it up.

>>380375024

>real Bros. Moves are back and better than ever

What did they do to them in the later games? I only finally just played SSS a year ago and I haven't gotten to the other four yet.

>>380382571
They won't. That'd be too smart of Nintendo.

>>380404173
They're not based on the moves you use in the field and are instead generic items like Koopa Shell, Fire Flowers, etc. In the second game they're literally items, in the others they brought back BP.

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>They made the combat like Pj/Dt

>>380375024
Why? There was nothing wrong with the original game and I don't see any reason to play this if I've already played the original. The only real upside to this is that the music won't be shitty GBA quality. I don't even think the artstyle looks better.

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>>380403662
I think you mean to say;

>Reminder Bowser's Minions are bound to succeed.
>They're going to show up and keep Bowletta's physical form busy while Mario and Luigi kill her soul

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>>380403716
which is funny because it's basically the opposite in Hoohoo mountain. The old version is more bright and saturated compared to the new version.

>>380404173
>What did they do to them in the later games?
PiT made them items you buy from shops.
BIS tries very poorly to disguise items as "bros. attacks" by having them use BP and a bunch of idiots fell for it.
DT is the same as BIS except with fucking gyro shit thrown in.
PJ carries over ones from DT (with basic controls instead of gyro) and introduces a few new ones. Paper Mario's specials are based on overworld abilities, but take a lot longer to execute.

>>380404173
From Partners in Time onwards they're items instead, you do things like kick a shell or launch a rocket.
Also there's no easy, normal, and advanced version of moves like in SSS.

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>>380401418
Sounds like someone died first turn to cackletta's soul

>>380403819
>>380404009
>>380404116


> Halfway through the game, they find Popple and Rookie
> They get beaten up, but are ultimately glad that Bowser is safe
> Vow to work harder than before to recover his memory
> Eventually they see Bowser flying on the star, during the scene where he recovers his memory
> They desperately rush to the Stardust Fields
> Find the badly injured Bowser
> Fawful shows up
> Minions put up a valiant fight, but are ultimately defeated and have to watch as Cackletta steals his body, before running away, defeated
> End credits has them making it back to Bowser's castle and finally being reunited with Bowser again

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>>380404443
>There was nothing wrong with the original game

>>380404527
>>380404530

Aw man, that doesn't sound good. I liked SSS's Bro Attacks.

>>380404505
Bean Bean Kingdom confirmed to be superior Kingdom

>>380404564
ARM WINDMILLS AT ONE HP IS ASS

>>380403704
I was going to call you out and say that's bullshit

But then I checked it out, and holy fuck there were a lot of fixes before SS came out of Japan

https://tcrf.net/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga/Regional_Differences

>Removed Heart Blocks
>Lowered Starting BP and Level Up BP
>Increased Level Up ATK
>98% of Enemy/Equipment/Item stats and prices changed for balance purposes

Saying Mush Badges were nerfed is a bit of a misnomer though, since they're still OP as all fuck.

>>380404376
>Bros. Attacks work the same
>block is optional
>double bounce is for a perfect jump
>reeeee ruined forever *furfag tears*

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>>380404505
Maybe this is due to the GBA screen? A lot of dev's had to make their games brighter then intended to compensate for the lack of a back light on the original GBA.

Could be them just trying to emulate what the developers intended.

>>380404728
I dont like slow combat, sorry

>>380404564
>>380404695
I'll never understand this. How do you fuck up stat management so bad that one of the brothers DOESN'T move before Cackletta's Soul?

>>380380807
I know the old one is emulated and the remake is probably just an upscaled picture
but i like the older style everythings well defined, and clean
but the DT styled sprities really lack the clarity the older style had

>>380404707
>there were a lot of fixes before SS came out of Japan
The game came out in the US first, rather.

>>380404443

>Certain Equipment is OP
>No Post Game
>Lull before Joke's End
>...

Ok so there's not too much that needs to be fixed, but hot fuck do I want to play this again with remixed music.

>>380404775
I doubt that since the sprites like Mario & Luigi would most likely also reflect that and in the original M&L they clearly aren't that bright, at least compared to the Advance series.

>>380404843
ALL STATS ON
POW
BP
'STASH

Fuck DEF, SPD, and HP

>>380404376
I wish they did. SSS counters and dodges were pathetically easy to execute.

>>380394234
I always thought that you could swap out Bros for unique Bros combos.
It'd also bring a little depth, making you decide which Bros need leveling when

>>380405025
the hammers had fucked up hitboxes

>>380404937
>No Post Game
You mean like every Mario and Luigi game?

>>380404923
By like 4 days.

So wait, which is the original then that they worked on?

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>>380384745
>mfw it worked
I ain't downloading any of that shit though. I don't need any Nintendo ninjas on my ass.

>>380404843
You have to quite literally NEVER choose Speed as a Bonus, and face her at level 38 or lower.

>>380405130
Not him, but BIS/DT/PJ have battle arenas for tougher boss fights.

>>380375334
THUNDERRRRRRR

>>380405148
The US version is the original. The Japanese release is the one adjusted based on that.

>>380404486
So bowser's inside story

>>380375024

>Coming back

It never left

Alpha Dream literally told you that Paper Jam was an exception because they couldnt get a crossover idea to work

>>380405130
BIS/DT/PJ all have Boss Rushes at the very least.

SS didn't even have that.

>>380405293
FAIIYEH

>>380404843
Hey it happened to me my first time going against her all those years ago. Didn't wipe completely, but Mario died. Made that fight very memorable.

>>380404505
The Remake thankfully looks better here. The waterfall is a nice touch.

>>380405287
>just a boss fight area
So not really a post-game, just a Ruby/Sapphire-tier "post-game" area.

>>380405298
The FUCK?

There's no fucking way that's the case.

Shit like Mush Badge became almost 2x as powerful in the Japanese version.

>>380386402
He means the first three before they adopted the Dream Team visuals that the remake is using.

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>>380403315
not him, not saying I'd want it, but they could use the ultra-realistic style from the newer games. I wouldn't want this too much because they risk turning the whole game into a diorama and turning all the npcs into toads, but it COULD be a nice graphical facelift.

>>380405358
Don't reply to false-flagging Paper Mario fans.

>>380405520
Are you sure you're reading the article correctly?

>>380396427
>BiS wasn't good
Lol what a fag

>>380405495
If it happens after the credits it's post game you dumbass.