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Sony: "Blocking cross play is a a responsibility to our

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-13-sony-defends-decision-to-block-cross-play-with-xbox-one-and-nintendo-switch

>Well, you must see that PlayStation owners are upset. They want to play with Switch owners, PC owners and Xbox One owners for these two big and important games, and they don't have an explanation why. That's what I'm getting at, really.

>Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully.

>It doesn't seem to be a problem for Nintendo, perhaps the most mindful video game company of the protection of children.

>Jim Ryan: Yeah, that's true. Everybody has to take their own decisions. We'll do that. Like I say, we have no philosophical stance against cross-play at all.

Is arrogant Sony back?
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>Rocket League will have XBox vs Steam vs Switch
>ps4 players will play with themselves
sony a rude
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Cross play benefits their competition massively more than it benefits them.

Last gen, Microsoft would have laughed their ass off if asked to do cross play with ps3.

I'm not sure why people are surprised.
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I for one applaud this decision. Backward compatibility and cross play doesn't fit the PlayStation brand
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>>380331243
If I were the industry leading king, ruling supreme I would block all the shit eating scrap collecting peasons too.
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>>380331243
cross-platform play could save so many struggling online games, including the indie drivel sony puts on ps+, it's literally win-win-win
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I don't see any problem here.
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>yfw Microsoft pulls a PS3 and the Xbone is remembered as the better console at the end of the gen despite early fumbles
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>>380331506
Ps4 and pc ha e had cross play in rocket league for pretty much always.
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>>380331243
>Well, you must see that PlayStation owners are upset. They want to play with ... PC owners

No, we fucking don't.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7tE_ZcaUYw
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>>380332206
theyd have to start releasing games first

ps3 got all its reputation through exclusives
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>>380332206
Literally impossible given zero exclusives and no Japanese support outside multiplats.
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I dont want to play with PC hackers
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>>380331620
>Cross play benefits their competition massively more than it benefits them.
As someone who lives in the states, I can say the number one reason people own an Xbox is because they want to play with their friends who also own xboxes. No joke, that is the #1 reason why none of these people own PS4s. That's a lot of lost revenue for Sony they could get back by allowing cross-play.
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>>380331243
>THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
T-thanks Sony
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>>380332206
the problem is a dominant xbox usually results in japanese decline
the three system balance of power means everybody has to stay on their toes, but a healthy microsoft keeping market leader sony in check while nintendo remains a viable japanese alternative is ideal
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>>380331243
This turned into a cult really fast
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>>380331243
>we have no philosophical stance against cross-play at all.
That's PR speak for "our lawyers are dicks".
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>>380332206
If this E3 was anything to go by, that's definitely going to be the case.
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FOR THE PLAYERS
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SONYGGERS BTFO
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>>380332441
this 2bh
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>>380331243
Fuck Sony, I can't stand Nintendo but Sony really are the Jewy as hell.
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>>380332572
that works both ways though, with ps4 as a market leader they lose more than they win
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>>380331243
We need "another Wii" to slap their senses and this time for good.
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How do you think cross play will work anons?

It sure as hell can't use gamertags,Friendcodes, or Valve IDs.
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>>380332572
No, that's the selling point for the PS4. People flock to it because that's where the games and their friends are. Microsoft wants to make that part about their friends irrelevant which makes their system viable. Doing this would just weaken Sony's market position .
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>Sony gets another exclusive
They're also exclusively not supporting backwards compatibility.

SONY
WON
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>Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe.
They are literally playing the "mature games for mature gamers such as myself" card to excuse their isolation from crossplay.
For the players, I guess.
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>>380331243
i feel like using minecraft was a bad example considering that random people can't really join you in that game.

the real reason is that if a game like destiny were to have crossplay people on xbox would win more over playstation players because xbox live is a better service than ps+
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>>380332919
DRM on music CDs that installed a rootkit, lawsuit on modders for their consoles, DVD player lawsuits, sony has always been the most anti consumer of the big 3.
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>>380332572
But ps4 is consistently still beating the Xbox in the states. This would just help Xbox by invalidating the friend draw for Sony.
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>THINK OF THE CHILDREN
>Nintendo is completely fine with this despite being anal as heck about this stuff

What is this bizzaro reality???
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>>380331243
>>Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully.
wonder which jew lawyer conjured that one up
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>>380331243
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>>380333212
Yeah, at this point it seems like Microsoft has the most user friendly plan. Microsoft seems to be completely changing the way they do things in general. My school just threw out all their macs and ipads for surface studios and pro's.

Is this the new dawn of Microsoft?
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We get it, sony is bad, sony doensn't do anything good, nintendo is good nintendo can't do anything wrong.
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>>380331243
his right, only pedophiles play on the switch, even nintendo bros themself says so in every voice chat thread, who would know better if not them?
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>>380331243

Of course, Nintendo is always out of tou

>Sony said it

Wait what?
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Honestly Sony should just remove multiplayer, it would be fucking based and really protect the children.
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>>380333209
Might just be for random matches.
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>>380333607
I think PlayStation 4 is a great console and I think Sony did a good job with it but PlayStation 4 would be an even better console under another brand though.
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>Not wanting to expose Nintendo and Xbox bros to their horrible Second Life userbase.

Based Sony.
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>>380333402

Love how the interviewer immediately gets him with "Nintendo's allowing it and they are even more restrictive than you" and he's can only come back with "We'll that's Nintendo's decision"
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>>380331243
>>380331506
what he's saying is what all know is true. Xbox players are animals who are just going to curse and populate mindcraft with swastikas and Nintendo players are pedophiles who are just going to use Mindcraft to build statues of Mario and Link.
Why let them corrupt are precious PlayStation Youth when we've worked so hard in raising them the right way.
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>>380331506
PS4 can play with Steam but not Win10
Get your facts right
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>>380333301
no it's the other way around retard, learn to read

I don't believe the reason they gave, but it's literally saying they can't control things outside of their control, and they have a responsibility to be able to make promises they can keep consistently
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>>380333532
No, Microsoft is still trying to work towards their total product control angle.

They are not user friendly.
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>>380331243
This has nothing to do with "responsibility to children" but with allowing cross play with other players that don't need to pay to play online.
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>>380333532
Of they drop Online fee I'll believe that
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>>380333689
>mfw

>"Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully."

>"It doesn't seem to be a problem for Nintendo, perhaps the most mindful video game company of the protection of children."
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>>380331243
>implying this doesn't benefit the rest of humanity

Yes, keep them in their own sandbox. For the love of god.
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>>380333875
Yeah and computers with no internet are better because you don't have to deal with trolls and children!
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>>380333921
they're at least honest about it. they're a big company with a big appetite but at least when they're fucking you they have the courtesy of asking how you'd like them to do it while lubing themselves up. Sony just rapes you dry.
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Doesn't Sony have more cross platform games than MS and Nintendo?

They don't mind PC, they just want MS to fuck off
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I can't wait for the sonybros to defend this and do damage control
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Good, don't have to play with children and manbabies. Will continue to just play with socially adjusted humans.
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>>380331243
Yes. Like how the PS2's success begat the arrogance that lead to the PS3, PS4's success is going down that path.

Hopefully now that Nintendo of all companies is doing cross-platform, they'll reconsider in the coming months.
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>>380332206
Like pottery
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>>380331243
>we must protect the kids! from other kids!
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>>380331243
>>380331506
SONYFAGS ARE NOT INVITED AT THIS PARTY
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>>380334147
I know your being ironic but your not wrong. The Internet should be destroyed. It's unprofitable and unsafe and kills every other industry
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>>380334284
It's already happening
>>380334290
>>380332373
>>380332441
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>>380333021
Got you senpai
http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/815173/Nintendo-Switch-sales-news-stock-shortages
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>>380334251
>PC
>MS to fuck off
How funny
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>>380333840
such as
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So what about all the other games that have requested cross platform play and Sony said to?

Is that for the kids?
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>>380334284
Pretty simple, Sony is making sure less 12 year olds and manchildren show up in my games. Thanks Sony
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>Games industry is becoming Sony vs. everyone else

Looks like we were ahead of the curve here.
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>>380331620
This is why. Microsoft wants Sony to voluntarily stop being the console that every bodies friends are playing on so that it stops hurting xbone sales.
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>>380334620
>Rocket league is on Linux

Really makes you think
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BUT REMEMBER SONY IS THE UNDERDOG! DON'T FORGET GUYS!!!!
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>>380333875
nobody even speaks on xbox live anymore

it's kind of sad
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>sony children need protection from abusive Microsoft consumers
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>PlayStation owners are upset. They want to play with Switch owners
False.
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>>380332658
Xbox being in the lead dosen't help anyone
Yeah sony fucked up at the beginning of last gen
But so did microsoft when they took the lead
>Over 50% Xbox 360 would red ring
>Payed online
>Pushing the whole dudebro gamer stereotype
>Neglecting japanese devs which I personally think is the reason so many of them also started butchering their games just to gain favor with the west
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>>380331243

They don't want to downgrade their play because of some mediocre peasants.

Seriously though, the experience on a switch and ps4 won't be the same.. imagine playing a stupid shooter or whatever, the increased technical capabilities, like draw distance as example, would give the ps4 players an unfair advantage.

Other games like.. maybe point'n'click mmo stuff, wouldn't be too much of an issue.
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>>380335146
ahahahaah
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>>380331243
Oh Sony
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>fuck cross play
>Fuck backwards compatibility

Sony are such cancer
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I literally don't want cross play
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>Rocket League
>Minecraft
I mean I understand that the principle of denying cross-play is bad, but who really gives a fuck about those games?
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>>380335387
gtfo portugal
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>>380335041
Last gen Microsoft that had that advantage and loved it and would buy exclusivity vs current Microsoft who complains about people buying exclusivity and thinks not having cross play is unfair is hilarious.

They only act friendly when they are behind.
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>>380335217
Nah everyone are in their own parties with their friends
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>>380331243
I want to have cross-play with the switch is something nobody said ever.
PC is something else, but seeing how PC means win10store which a lot of PC users don't use, sure. Go ahead. What a horrible loss for Sony not to help Microsoft out of the gutter they got themselves in.
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You think microsoft is bad? Look how much nintendo is ripping people off and how ok everyone on /v/ is about it. This place is full of nintendo babies.
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>>380334051

Nintendo is the company that got rid of fucking swapnote because pedos were drawing dicks to send to little girls. The moment the Xbox playerbase can cyber with kids online, this shit will be AXED.
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The company that won't let windows 10 store players play with steam players on the same platform are complaining that a competitor won't let their users play with their users?
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>>380335539
Looks like someone is mad they're not getting the superior versions of games like Nintendo and Xbox players.
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>>380335994
damn son...
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>>380336083
>Nintendo multiplats
>Superior in any capacity

Lol
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>>380335994
>windows 10 store players play with steam players on the same platform
Play what games?
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Aren't they shooting themselves in the foot here? If I wanted to buy a current gen console but also wanted to play Rocket League and whichever other cross-platform games with my friends who own [Bone/Switch/PC], then why in the hell would I purchase a PS4? I would purchase one of the other consoles or put my money towards upgrading/building a new rig.

I'm sure they're being this cocky as the PS4 has outsold the Bone by a landslide so anyone who has a PS4 probably has friends who also own one, thus they don't need to worry about cross-platform support. That's not to say it isn't mildly disappointing though.
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>>380335994
No gives a fuck about the failing Windows 10 store, only the Xbox One X and Nintendo Switch matter.
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>>380331243
>when you lose E3 to Microsoft you get asshurt and start pulling shit like this

Have some fucking dignity, nobody likes a sore loser, Sony!
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>>380335994
You hit the nerve man. Prepare to get the heat now :)
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>>380336193
They have crossplay, that automatically makes them better.
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>>380335527
>who really gives a fuck about those games?
Minecraft have like 50 million active users. It's safe to say a lot of people cares about it
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>>380331243
A ton of PS4 games are cross play with PC, including games like SF and Rocket League, so why are they saying it's not cross play? Memes, or did something change between versions?

>>380334241
MS says they don't collect data from win10, yet they still collect data. Say you can turn it off, but you can't, not even on ltsb anymore. Saying they're honest is a stretch.
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>https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html
>there are people itt defending the "poor" microsoft

LMAO
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>>380336196
Halo wars and some call of duty games did this.
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>>380331620
Cross play benefits their consumers. If the scene dies on PS4, with cross play, at least you'd still be able to play. They're just being bigheaded because they've sold so many consoles.
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>>380336351
The point was the hipocrisy.

Microsoft doesn't care about cross play unless it can do something for them.
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>>380336796
Report and hide all Microsoft shills, they shit the board up every E3
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>>380335387
>Red and Green
>Mario and Luigi

DEEPEST LORE
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>>380336938
If the scene dies on the biggest console multiplayer platform it will have already been long dead on the smaller platforms.
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>>380336563
My guess is that Rocket League will change, because having crossplay between PC + PS4, and PC, Xbone and Switch would be a mess.
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Sony: not offering backwards compatibility is a responsibility to our players
Sony: fake 4k is easier on the eyes than real 4k, we do it for the players
Sony:re-selling PS2 games is our responsibility to our fans as platform holders
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>>380331243
>Sony is in full smug asshole mode again
I hate it when they're like this. Especially when they're no one to take them down a peg.
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>>380337262
Not true at all. Rocket League will always have a huge scene on PC. It'll be the new TF2, in that even when it dies on consoles, it'll still be going on PC.
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But Rocket League is cross-play with pc. What's stopping someone to make a match on ps4 with PC and the PC guy invites someone from Xbone or Switch?
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>>380337307
Yeah the non-backwards compatibility is bullshit. I don't know anything about "real" v. "fake" 4K, and I don't want to play with mustards, but it's Jewish as fuck the way they pushed PSNow but don't offer actual backwards compatibility.
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>>380333609
Aren't all the anime games on Sony consoles currently though?
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>>380337307
In a weird way it sounds more authentic that Microsoft offering backwards compatibility because NO GAMES
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>>380336938
But Ps4 can crossplay with steam
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>>380337217
OH SHIT!
Wait, Master Chief's helmet is green and Samus is red. Does that mean that Halo in Metroid are in the same universe. OH SHIT!
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>>380337535
Rocket league isn't at risk of dying on any system for at least 5 to 10 years.

This is a non issue.
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>>380332206
This. After this E3? This.
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Sony does not want you to play with people they can not ban.
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>>380337217
Sony never fit the bill to begin with.

>mfw there wont even be a PS6.
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>>380331243
This means the new Monster Hunter won't be crossplay, either, doesn't it?

Guess that's the last nail in the coffin, then. If there's no crossplay for World, I'm not getting it.
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>>380337535
Ps4 has cross play in rocket league.
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>>380337083
Well then I guess it's doing something for them. Phil Spencer and Kimishima saved Xbox and Nintendo.
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>>380337935
Its probably gonna be crossplay with PC

The system that matters

Why do people care about irrelevant systems?
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>>380331506
>Years later
>playerbase dies
>almost nonexistent but still some stragglers
>Xbox Steam and Switch still have a modest amount combined together
>Ps4 is just shit out of luck.

Well excuse me for wanting to play with my friends who bought an xbox.
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>>380338119
Literally nothing changed with the xbone. There's still no reason to own it over another platform.
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>>380337738
yeah but only sophisticated gentleman play anime games, pedos play kiddy games but not to have fun but to lure other kiddies and fuck their tight boipussies
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>>380337915
>mfw there wont even be a PS6.
Feels good, man
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>>380338249
See
>>380337981
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>>380338208
The leak that was right about everything else with the game said that it was commissioned by Sony. If that's the case, then they probably said not to waste time doing crossplay altogether.
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>>380338249
You fucking stupid fuck

PS4 has crossplay with PC right now

Gosh what's with drones here today?
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>>380338270
Yes there is, BC and they make video games like Nintendo. Halo 6 is also sounding like a return to roots, the Flood are back baby.
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>>380338270
Best console for multiplats
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>>380337935
It will probably have crossplay with PC.
But then again like 70% of the players of that game will be Japanese PS4 owners, so crossplay shouldnt be that big of a deal.
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>>380331243
>lol nintendo has no voice chat because of pedos
>sony literally admits that their userbase shouldn't be enabled to play with kids
PS4 CONFIRMED TO BE PEDOPHILE CONSOLE
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Well, he's right.
Nintendo is a well know site of degenerates.
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>>380338539
Maybe for some multiplats a year from now, that will still be better on PC, which shares all the games the xbone has coming.
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>>380338456
And SFV was paid by sony and that game has crossplay with PC and was made by the same devs

Sony don't mind PC

Its the other systems and the leak is inconsistent, if sony paid then why let xbone get a game? They could have easily created a SFV scenario and be a PS4/PC game so i don't buy it at all.
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>>380338539
>Best console for multiplats
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>>380337806
all nintendo games happen in the same universe

Fzero,Star fox and Metroid happens after the end of the worldmother 3 when they were forced to leave earth and it was frozen for ages kirby
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>>380332206
I can see it now.
>Hey, guys. I don't have a new system and want to play with you guys. Which one do you guys play on?
>Doesn't matter, dude, just buy the console with the exclusives that interest you the most. Oh, but uh... not PS4. Then you can't play with us.
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>Think Swich would be the biggest victim of non-cross play because of hardware limitations
>Gets to play Rocket League with Xbox and PC
>PS4 can do it no problem but refuses to because the want to nurture the Ignorance of single platform only faggots.

What a shitty company.
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>>380334328
they were always invited, nobody told them to not do this... they are the ones who fucking didnt show up

too busy jerking off on their body pillow and listening to black people music i bet
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>>380338771
Not everyone owns a PC or a PC as good as it, so it does have a market, and as someone that uses the Windows store, its worse than aids.
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>This same faggot said "WHY WOULD PEOPLE WANT BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY? THOSE GAMES LOOK ANCIENT!"
>Microsoft blows them the fuck out
>Now Sony's refusing crossplay with the other consoles
>"TH-THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
Oh man, this shit is fucking great.

>PS4 watching Nintendo, Microsoft, and PC play outside
>PS4 looks up to daddy Sony and asks if he can play with them
>Sony smacks PS4 across the back of the head and tells PS4 no, and how he's doing it for their own good
>PS4 slumps forward and mopes
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>>380339102
>Buy the console with exclusives

So not an xbox.
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>>380339216
Ps4 has PC cross play with rocket league.
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>>380338829
The MH5 leak is incorrect the other MH leak is correct. People are conflating the two.
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>>380339341
Platform, then, you fucking pedant. Besides, most people don't want to spend the money on a high end PC just for video games.
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>>380338917
Deepest Lore. I remember Master Chief being in Fable, does mean all Microsoft franchises are in the same universe since an Arbiter and a golden monitor along with RAAM from Gears of War are in Killer Instinct.
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>>380338475
won't it become limited? i don't have the game but i assume that the online just pairs you with random people so if PC is getting paired with xbox and switch it limits how often you'll see PC players in the same matches with PS4 players if PC players end up with xbox and switch more often.
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>>380339338
SONY CAN PLAY WITH STEAM
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>>380339679
it all ends in smash eventualy
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>>380339683
But not with anybody else. There's a chance that it's an enhanced crossplay that the crossplay with more depth with the other systems.
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>>380339683
The problem is that they can't play with anyone else. Which as you should know raises some problems.
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>>380339829
OH SHIT!
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>>380331243
it costs them a lot more money than the other two major parties
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>>380339683
>H-Hey S-Steam... D-Do you want to play Street Fighter 5?
>Oh, I can't today, sorry PS4. I was going to go play Minecraft and Rocket League with Nintendo and Microsoft. Want to come?
>O-Oh, uh... My dad said not to play with those two...
>Oh, okay. Well, see you later PS4.
>Y-You too...
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>>380331643
>doesn't fit the PlayStation brand
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>>380340064
>Nintendo, Microsoft, Valve co developed game
>Super Video Bros.
>No Sony allowed
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>>380339860
>>380340019
>anybody else
Who? 100 sorry faggots that got memed into installing w10? Or nintenbros who doesn't even play anything besides nintendo first party?
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>>380340019
Game developer will have to choose to either do cross plat with PC, Xbox, switch or PC and PS4 if cross-play takes off and PS4 isn't on board with the party
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>>380340282
This shit hits too close
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>>380331243
post your feel when you lived long enough to see sony fall
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>>380331243
I don't really get why they refused crossplatform play, at least for minecraft of all things. Considering the massive fanbase that game has it seems stupid to refuse the money. Yes Microsoft gets some too but at least both would get some profits out of it.
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>>380331506
Play vs Xbox players
>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

Understandable really.
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>>380340582
After the shit they've done this gen, good riddance.
>STILL can't change your PSN username
Come the fuck ON
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>>380340019
>>380339860
I don't give a fuck. You're pretending the community is small or something like this is titanfall dead.
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>>380339667
literally every switch owner has a high end pc, they saying that in every monhun thread yesterday and they are probably saying thistoday and tommorow, why would they lie?
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>>380340508
>yfw third parties start dropping Playstation because they need to do separate online servers just for them for all of their games
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>>380340758
That is why I thought about my username before coming up with something.
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>>380334328
They literally were invited. They just refused.
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>>380340404
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I can actually understand this. Crossplay means that Sony can't enforce rules regarding griefing and that kind of thing because some users are out of Sony's jurisdiction.

I mean, it's bullshit and the real reason is that they don't want to put in the effort. But at least they came up with a decent excuse.
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I don't get how it will work for PC.
Doesn't PC have infinite worlds and consoles don't?
Also the game isn't even worth playing with mods, which are still only on PC.
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>>380340998
They don't enforce any rules anyway.
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>>380340998
If Nintendo of all companies has looser online regulations than you, you've fucked up somewhere.
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>>380332206
It can't happen because the reason PS3 was considered the better console in the end is because the fucking weeaboos here are doing the usual
>LE WESTERN GAYMS XDDD
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>>380340774
>dropping the system with 60 milliom users

Rocket league literally only blew up because of PS plus
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Sony wont admit it, but we all know the real reason Sony wont allow crossplay.

Microsoft and Nintendo would benefit from allowing their players to play with the huge PS4 playerbase. But what does Sony gain from it? Microsoft and Nintendo have tiny playerbases in comparison. It's not an equal trade in the eyes of Sony.

If Microsoft and Nintendo want access to 60 million players, they need to give something of equal value. They're not, so why would Sony make a deal that benefits the competition?
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>>380340998
I get what they are saying, but I don't agree that it's an issue.
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>>380341092
It's the least specious excuse I've heard out of a major publisher for years though, that's gotta be worth some kind of medal.
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>>380341209
60 million users is still less than every Switch, Xbone, and PC user combined.
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>Sony is the autistic kid who doesn't like playing with other kids

lmao
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>>380340686
I think it might have something to do with win10, since every game instance of this happening has had references with win10.
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>>380334328
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>>380341209
Would you want 60 million users or do you want the combined userbase of PC, Switch and Xbox?
The Switch being on a complete roll and Xbox making a surprise comeback if E3 is anything to go on.

Not to mention not all of those 60 million players actually play.
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>>380335387
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and the funny thing is ps4 players will still have more people to play with than pc, switch and xbone combined, clear win for sony
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>>380335070
And its playstation crossplay is being removed so it can be XBOX+SWITCH+PC instead
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>>380333209
Master_Ch13vo @XBL
xXxTr1llz0ne420xXx @PSN
GloriusExterminatus @Steam/@PC
Joseph @Switch
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>>380340764
Uh, I only saw butt ravaged Nintendo fans who insisted this was not a mainline MH and insisting that Nintendo will get the real thing and that MH without PS2 assets and portability feels wrong. That tells me Switch owners are not as enthusiastic towards PC and probably even pirate.
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>>380341245
>But what does Sony gain from it?
A longer lasting online for all of their games?

>Hey, should I get [Game]?
>Yeah, it's great. Just don't get it on PS4. The online's dead.
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>>380341356
Steam is PC anon, and they already can play with PS4 peasants.
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>>380341598

If it's dead on the PS4, it's going to be even deader on the Xbone or Switch.
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>>380341245
Huh. Thats actually makes a lot of sense anon.
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>>380341494
Can we have a PC somewhere? They need some love too.
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>>380340698
no those people all went over to the PSN at the beginning of the gen
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>>380341441
This image never fails to Crack me .
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>>380340998
That's not the actual reason. This is much more likely. >>380341245
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>>380341441
>I hate my psn id
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>>380341356
Switch has no sales

>40% of these sales have been for the PlayStation 4 version with the remaining split roughly equally between PC and Xbox One

Yeah they'll drop PS4 right lmfao
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>>380341739
>it
I'm not talking about Rocket League. I'm talking about games in general. That's why I said [Game] instead of Rocket League, you braindead baboon. Crossplay is the future of online games and Sony can't see that.
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>>380341564
>I only saw butt ravaged Nintendo fans who insisted this was not a mainline MH
It always comes back to MH and "Nintendo fans".
I don't know how to say this to you but the MH fanbase in general gets PISSED at change. This is a common occurrence
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>>380338249
No, we wont excuse that.
Accept that you are of a different tribe now, and the next time you see your former "friends", smash their heads in and steal their women.
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>>380333607
>Sony refuses to take part in the Xbox/Switch/PC crossplat play

>b-but Nintendo!
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>>380341834
Not until PCfags stop pretending they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Right now only Xbone and Nintendo have that brotier relationship.
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>>380332206
Nobody actually thinks the PS3 was better than the 360
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as expected of sonybros holding progress back
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>>380341494
Thanks man I saved this for myself.
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>>380334290
>socially adjusted
>PSN
Looooool
I've seen
>dozens of BRs and Mexicans playing on US/UK servers to kill whitey
>the literally retarded
>a guy who looks like a pedophile Country Western singer who admits to having gone to jail for having set fires in bathrooms and sending underage girls dick pics
>women with bf's fishing for free items
>ugly older female catfishing for young men
>a 60 year old Trump zealot "vet" who claims he was injured by his own guy during training for Desert Storm
>homeschooled fatherless Jehovah's Witness SJW black kid who talks like a Buzzfeed article
I could go on and on. Console communities are dogshit. At least PC is a somewhat gated community.
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>>380341613
>implying that'll stick around
They're not making two special server types just for PS4 users. You're implying the server types will be as follows.

>Switch
>Xbone
>PC
>crossplay
>PS4
>PS4 and PC crossplay

Crossplay will be exclusive to Switch, Xbone, and PC now. Screecap this.
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>>380341245
I don't know. I'm not an executive who plays fifth dimensional backgammon on a regular basis, but Sony also gets some bad PR for rejecting crossplay. Not enough to stop Sony from sleeping on their mattresses filled with money atop the golden bed, but still.
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>>380341492
PS4 has made more sales than both PC and Steam sales revenue you stupid fuck

You'd have to be a retarded developer to drop that completely as if that's nothing.

They'll rather have it on all systems and maximise sales and dlc
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>>380342105
Hey now, you give everyone a chance.
You're not a Sonygro.
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>>380333805
PlayStation for the children.
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wii60 is back?
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>>380341994
>already has crossplay with steam
>but it doesn't count unless xbone and switch are in too!
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I'm completely okay with this. I don't want to play with autists who bought a Switch, hackers/cheaters on PC and someone who doesn't exist on Xbox.
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>>380341846
Yes and sony has the power to ban them.
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>>380341994
It would apply to any game.
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>>380342142

Anyone who thinks 360 is better is severely misinformed.
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>Xbox introducing cross buy between their console and PC
>Xbox trying to bridge the gap between cross play
Its weird seeing MS become the really pro consumer company.
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>>380342036
But why would the MH fanbase get mad if there are still games being produced that cater to them and are portable?
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>>380342424
Again, I'm not talking about Rocket League.
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>>380342256
PS4 is where they made the most money, why would i believe you're bs?
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>>380342564
sure kid
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>>380342371
I'm all for PC joining the bromance to make the holy trinity of gaming goodness.

But there is a bit of eliteism there that makes them feel superior to consoles that can get annoying at times.
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I respect the idea but parental features exist for a reason.
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Don Mattrick getting fired and Iwata dying was the best think to happen to Xbox and Nintendo.
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>>380342256
They will? Because only w10 store version of rocket league will be compatible with xbone and switch. Do you seriously believe microshit will allow steam version to crossplay with their shit when they need to push their own store?
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>it's a security issue
>PS4's had PC crossplay on War Thunder for years now
>some backwater small time Russian dev is more reliable than nintendo or MS.

lol
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>>380342587
I can crossplay with steam on this too.

Fags wanna pretend they're anti crossplay as if Sony hasn't been doing it with PC since PS2
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>>380342349
>You'd have to be a retarded developer to drop that completely as if that's nothing.
That's because it IS nothing compared to a combined player base. Not to mention that they're going to have to remove the parity with the PS4 and PC if Sony doesn't want to be a part of crossplay with the Switch and Bone.
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>>380342919
>They will?
Is this a statement or a question?
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>>380340282
DELETE THIS
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How is /v/ putting down something that benefits the consumer in every possible way? Wtf
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>>380341441
fucking kek
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>>380337935
I'll grab MonHun PC/XoX before PS4
Like fuck do I want to play with Japs.
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>PS4 can play with the elite Steamfags

>Switch cucks and Xboxfags can only crossplay with Windows10store fags

You know it will happen, codfags on window 10 store can't play with steam
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>>380341245
I was thinking it was just because they'd have little control over players from other brands.
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>>380343235
Get it on PC, then. The Xbone version isn't coming to Japan.
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>>380342587
>implying it can't happen again
Sony seems to not give much of a fuck about pc as long as microshit isn't involved, so they are okay with dealing with steam, hell we still have FFXIV on ps4/pc/steam. Ironically enough microshit didn't get XIV on their console because they demanded xbox only servers from SE and was told to fuck themselves.
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>>380333607
I like Sony's consoles and libraries, but Sony making retarded decisions, enforcing retarded policies and overall shooting themselves in the foot 24/7 since the end of the fifth gen is undeniable and indefensible.

I mean, I love my Vita, I really do, but even I admit that if you don't know japanese or are interested in niche titles it's a paperweight for the average joe and Sony never actually tried salvaging the thing after shooting themselves in the foot with overpriced carts and false marketing that bit them in the ass.
Sony could easily dominate the console market and even compete in the handheld one fairly well, but they keep fucking things up at every turn, it's appalling, say all you want about Nintendo but at least they're shrewd enough to keep on printing money at next to no cost, Sony can't even jew customers right.
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>>380333840
No, PS4 really isn't. MetaCritic PS4's top games are all ports of PS3 games and multiplatforms.

PS4 is a console without an identity of it's own. And the game they keep promise you get delayed indefinitely or have no known release dates. Keep pretending PS4 gave anything to gaming besides one single good game, Bloodborne, and that's it.

PS - This generation is about to wrap itself up. The PS3 and 360 were engineered with top hardware in mind, the PS4 and X1 were both designed with low end AMD APUs for low prices. It's why these consoles are already at the 200 dollar threshold brand new. They're cheap pieces of technology because they're outdated by many years. You bitch about the PS3 and 360 holding back PC gaming, let's see these PS4 and X1 tablet processors hold back gaming even further than their predecessors.
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>>380342749
It literally is. Xbox has no games dumbass. If anything those pictures should have the Windows logo on it.
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>>380333609
>Pedophiles play on the switch
>Sony has the loli fanbase
Nice try
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>>380342974
>40% sales is nothing

Yeah go off yourself. This game was literally only popular in the month it was free and then blew up so much it got a physical release. What they'll have to do will be a minor cost compared to generate revenue
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>>380340282
>A shitpost that actually makes me laugh
Its been a long time
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I wish PC was left out of this shit.

Not that I play Minecraft anymore but I feel sorry for the poor saps who do getting even more flooded by autistic 10 year olds.
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>>380343562
only reason nintendo disable voice chat with strangers is because of pedophiles
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>>380342571
Xbox is just a weaker PC at this point. I don't think there's a gap to bridge when they're running on the same shit already.
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>>380331243

Sony's pride will be their undoing next gen.
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>>380341834
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Sony online is the most hostile online I've ever been on. 95% of my inbox on my ps3 is people cussing me out. Every voice chat I've ever been on is nothing but screaming and cursing
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>>380342993
Statement. Microshit won't allow steam version on their crossplay, and i am sure that rocket league devs won't remove their shit from steam either. So we will essentially have two versions of rocket league, one steam and one w10, with different crossplays.
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>>380343993
So it's just like what happened before the PS3 came out, then?
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>In an interview with RPGsite, Naoki Yoshida explained that while PS3, PS4 and PC players will be able to play with each other when the game launches on August 27, the fact Xbox users would require their own server turned the team off the idea.

Yeah cucks wanna pretend when Microsoft aren't on the winning side they aren't as greedy? Sony in the past atleast let you connect with PC
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>>380343993
Did everyone forget that the Sony conference literally started with a TV ad? They're doing exactly what Microsoft did at the start of this gen.
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>>380344208

Are you agreeing with me?
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>>380343768
Source?
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>>380331243
>>It doesn't seem to be a problem for Nintendo, perhaps the most mindful video game company of the protection of children.

Sony blocks nontendo and literally blocks sony users from children :) hahahaha nintenbros btfo
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>>380344221
>Sony denies crossplay twice
>now it's biting them in the ass
Poetry.
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>>380333209
On Games of Glory they just say what you're on PS4 or PC.
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>>380343975
>>380336049
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AHEM
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>>380337140
Report and hide all Sony shills, they shit the board up every E3

see? anyone can do it!
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>>380331243
>nanny company doesn't let the children play with other children
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>>380344449
Maybe it's a good idea to keep Sonygros away from the kids.
We all know how they're real and dangerous predators.
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>>380344149
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>>380337738
Switch is going to become the weeb console shortly, Sony's time as weeb-machine ended when they became the COD box of choice.
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>>380332206
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>>380344382
what else could it be, just give it a shot and come up with a better explanation
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>>380344194
Sounds like the 360, which means that every dudebro console will inevitably get that audience, nothing to do with Sony.
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>>380331243
>Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base...
Treating your install base like retards, kek
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>>380344950
It's getting fate/extella isn't it?
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that series closely affiliated with Sony?
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>>380344950
Never ever.
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>>380345152
How about you give it a shot and add credibility to your shitpost
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>>380342564
t. sonygro
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>>380339516
The pool is going to get smaller because Switch and Xbox players will be in it and PS4 can't play with them. You'll effectively be limited to PS4 players.
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>>380344950
Yeah.....

Then there's. Hack remaster, DBZ fighter, LWA and Yakuza 1 remake.

Switch getting nothing, not even undertale lmfao
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>>380331243
its my responsibility not to buy your products then, sony
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>>380345460
Not him but there's always the Swapnote fiasco
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>>380343993
No it wont. I wonder if microsoft will ever release another console and nintendo only wants to make out dated hardware handheld gimmick consoles

Sony has no competition for the forseeable future.

Name 5 games for xbox and nintendos current consoles that arent ceoss platform and worth 2 shits.
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>>380345460
you literally cant, nintendo blocked it because muh children and pedophiles
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Honestly, I wouldn't trust Microsoft in any kind of co-operative setting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
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>>380342919
>>380344203

There is no version of Rocket League on Windows Store and the xbone version has had cross play with steam for a year now
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>>380331243
>We need to protect the children
4 THE PLAYERS
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>>380345559
Except Microsoft doesn't allow steam and windows10 store to mix so you won't even get steam players
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>>380340282
you can play rocket league between steam and ps4
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>>380345717
So you can't add even a little credibility, got it

>>380345650
Why did that get cancelled anyhoo
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>>380345856
>Except Microsoft doesn't allow steam and windows10 store to mix so you won't even get steam players
That's the problem, PC players are already confirmed. They'll either have to drop Sony or go back on their word and doing the latter so soon would backfire on the devs.
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>>380345587
Undertale is not japanese, also I'm totally fine avoiding the dumpster fire that's the Undertale fanbase. Switch is getting ATLUS support, Squeenix support, SEGA support, it's going to be awesome.
>>380345671
how can one be this delusional?
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>>380344950
>Switch is going to become the weeb console shortly
I still don't understand how people keep on saying this.
You've been told time and again why this will never be the case, JP 3rd parties, especially smaller ones will never work on Nintendo, there is no market for them in there especially now that mobile exists and most devs are also finally making the jump to PC.

Just how thick is your skull that this simple truth won't get into it?
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>>380346145
pc users=/=windows 10 users

Im not going to buy a windows 10 version of minecraft and rocket league just so microjews get richer.
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Pretty typical damage control from /v/ - Sony.
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>No Xbone threads for years
>E3 happens aka the shitposting season
>/v/ is full of Xbone fans
pottery ;^)
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>>380346371
>pc users=/=windows 10
Name one game with multiplayer that is on steam and windows store
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>>380346329
>there is no market for them in there
Thing is Vita users are all jumping from that to the Switch especially seeing as it's currently getting the games that previously would only go there.
Not to mention the huge popularity boost it received today.
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>>380346237
You're still disregarding the other games i mentioned, at the end of the day sony will still have the most support because they can run lowbudget games to mid tier ones so it will get far more Japanese games than switch
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>>380345856

MS does though. Astroneer is getting a cross play update that unites the W10, Xbone and Steam versions soon.
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>>380346237
>ATLUS support, Squeenix support, SEGA support
Nice, what about games though? And i do mean games games, not wiggle waggling. So far the only game that i would be interested to play on switch is mario xcom.
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>>380331243
They make that decision so they don't have their playerbase telling their friends its alright to buy a different console than them. Its a really shitty anti-consumer business practice.
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>>380346674
More like vita users jumped to PS4 and this why all these Japanese games have got PS4 ports and new games on thay device
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>>380346329
>will never work with nintendo
You got a citation, or like, any evidence that that's the case? I don't think you do. At the very least Vita devs are going to hop on the Switch train. A japanese portable console is going to get japanese support, period. Look at the 3DS, it's all about niche devs, and you bet your ass they're going to move over to the Switch when the 3DS ship has sailed.
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>>380346637
minecraft, and non store version is more popular, the same version that wont get cross play
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>>380346757
What about one of the biggest games Call of duty? They don't care for small games but rocket league will actually generate sales now
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>mfw the xbox community is so fucked right now with a redundant 500 dollar paperweight that theyre stuck on /v/ damage controlling by spreading lies
Smallest install base. Smallest amount of games. Smallest dicks.
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>>380346941
>why all these Japanese games have got PS4 ports and new games on thay device
That's more because when the Vita died there was nothing to fill the gap now the Switch is out and it's gaining a lot of weeb support.
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>>380347150
>being this butthurt that daddy sony fucking blew it
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>>380346482

>Sony says something retarded and indefensible that jews their own customers
>Sonybros:"XFAG SHITPOSTERS. SONY DIDN DU NUFFIN"

Sonybro persecution complex every time
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>>380346674
>Thing is Vita users are all jumping from that to the Switch
???
>especially seeing as it's currently getting the games that previously would only go there.
Such as?
>>380347000
>Look at the 3DS, it's all about niche devs
Oh yeah, totally all about niche devs such as Capcom and Atlus, really made me think
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>>380347150
I don't think people are cheering on MS as much as they're realizing sony fucked up, not just with this clossplay thing but E3 being a big nothing.
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>>380344221
Xbox is cancer. Literally the me too brand.
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Do people really think that they won't go with steam when that's where their biggest PC userbase is?
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>>380347150
But Xbox fans aren't damage controlling you Sony niggers are.
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>>380347000
Nintendo keeps nobodies off Switch devkits while Sony embraces them. It's their 2017 "seal of approval" to limit possible shovelware, too bad that has huge cons.
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>>380347450
Is that why all the dudebros play COD and FIFA on the PS4 now?
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>>380347000
>Vita devs are going to hop on the Switch train.

You mean PS4, Danganronpafags are making a ps4 game. Ys8 got updated for a PS4 release and CS3 is a PS4/PC game
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>>380347224
>Switch is out and it's gaining a lot of weeb support
So will you name some games or not?
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>>380331243
I think what he means to say but is actively avoiding to actually utter is that they can't ban people outside of the Playstation install base if crossplay was introduced.
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>>380347252
>tfw phil spencers semen tastes too good that i cant help but make shit up to defend the huge fuck up that is the xbone
Feels good to be an xbro
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>>380347365
>Oh yeah, totally all about niche devs such as Capcom and Atlus, really made me think
You posted this image but how is it relevant?
Weeb games don't even make that much on other systems where they dominate.
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>>380347581
Jokes on you Fifa was always on playstation and before CoD there was MoH. Both the soccer crowd and fps crowd were on PS1.
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>>380347252
Sony has other events later this year.
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>>380347224
>and it's gaining a lot of weeb support.

Yeah, didn't get a .hack port, didn't get a DBZ fighter, didn't get code vein port and still no Nier port. All you get are games from ages ago and not new ones.
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>>380347952
So they can show the same games they showed last year? And maybe some new games for 2025? Maybe a few kickstarter games to round it out?
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>>380337459
Nintendo is. That's why they panicked and paid Capcom to not release MH World on the Switch. Too bad Nintendo has already won Japan with Splatoon 2 and a mainline Pokémon game.
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>>380347952
Those events usually just repeat what they showed at E3.
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>>380331243
I never jumped in on Rocket League, but the crossplay honestly sold me on the switch version. It woulda been sad hopping into a small install base when everyone I know plays on PC.
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>>380342203
All online communities are shit. The bigger they are the shittier they become.
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>>380347497
Theres no damage you dumb microshitter. Holy fuck. Pc can already play with ps4. Xbots are the only ones desperate to save their dying communities and now theyre damage controlling the fuck out of them by lying.

Nice try though.
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>>380348317
PS4 Rocket League has PC crossplay.
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>>380347783
>You posted this image but how is it relevant?
You said 3DS is all about niche devs when no actual niche dev makes it even to top 20 sales.
And trust me, I know japanese and I have a 3DS, there's only a couple of actually niche developers in there and 90% of them pull more games for sony platforms than the 3DS, which are much more well received and successful.

Not to mention that even many niche franchises from bigger devs are on Sony platforms but not on Nintendo platforms, see Atelier, SaGa, Ys and so on.
Again, you're delusional if you think switch is getting third party support when there's mobile, PS4 and PC hogging it, you're severely underestimating how much 3rd parties dislike having anything to do with Nintendo.
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>>380348523
This much assblast in one post.
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>>380348727
>You said 3DS is all about niche devs when no actual niche dev makes it even to top 20 sales.
Anon, unless they have complete and utter domination they don't make it to the top 20 on other consoles either.
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>>380342142
(you)
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>>380341562
> not NIGGER KILLER @ Steam
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>>380348791
>tfw you get btfo so hard that you have to start projecting in the hopes other anons dont catch on how asshurt you are
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I never would've thought that Sony or Playstation would be the big bads.
no true crossplatform play because of the kids? what the fuck nigga you just showed God of War and Days Gone?
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>>380348297
Not for JP games
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>>380342142
Soon as 2010 hit, Microsoft spent all their time and advertising on Kinect Sony pushed their shit in with pure exclusives
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don't forget Xbox is doing more 4k patches for Xbox X than ps4 pro has ever done on ps4 pro for triple A's

4THEPAYERS
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>It doesn't seem to be a problem for Nintendo, perhaps the most mindful video game company of the protection of children.

me think really makes
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>>380341245
More likely that they didn't want to work with MS and give them more $$
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this e3 was great
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I wonder how fucked things must be for xbots when you have to pretend theres no crossplay between ps4 and pc. I know sea of thieves looked bad but not this bad.
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>>380349238
>I never would've thought that Sony or Playstation would be the big bads.
They've been the big bads since the beginning.
They wanted complete control of the Nintendo Playstation and forced Nintendo into finalizing the deal by announcing it.
Then they joined the console race out of spite and essentially usurped Segas position.
Then the PS2 was insanely obtuse to develop for and killed off some smaller developers.
The PS3 had feature after feature after feature removed with every subsequent iteration.
Then the PS4 introduced paid online and set it as a standard and now they won't allow crossplay.
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>>380349925
>I know sea of thieves looked bad but not this bad.
But it didn't
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>>380350014
>all this retarded bullshit
sounds like you're just a butthurt fuckboy
the Nintendo Playstation thing maybe tho
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>>380350115
For everyone outside the console wars it did. Shit looked embarrassing, like an early access game that goes f2p on gwg day 1.
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>>380343493
>one single good game, Bloodborne, and that's it.
And Nioh and World of Final Fantasy and Gravity Rush and The Last Guardian and Samurai Warriors 4 and a bunch of other games
>inb4 those all suck
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>>380350804
>Gravity Rush
Come on dude.
I've platinumed both games and even I know it's shit.
2 even glitched out and crashed on me.
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>>380350115
It did though. It is another streamer bait game with wacky shit, they even present it that way. It looks really fucking shallow too. All these years since Sea Dogs and all the devs who try to make pirate game misses the point this fucking much still.
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>>380350968
Where did it glitch on you? I played it to the end too, I just hate platformers.
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>>380350014
>Then the PS2 was insanely obtuse to develop for

Every PS2 dev knows it was basically a superscalar PS1 with added features and retardedly high bandwidth allowing them to do things the other systems could basically just do out of bruteforcing. If you coded for PS1 you had half the job done for coding on PS2.
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Good, we made this generation and we don't need the runners up leaching off us
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>>380347357
now post some EPIC WOJAKS XDDD my fellow Xboner
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>>380350257
Dude, the PS2 was a retarded system. That's why all of the multiplats were worse on it.
The PS3 removed several features two of the most notable being the "Other OS" and backwards compatibility.
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>>380332373
>waaaahhh hackers

Fuck off, i used to hack in borderlands all the time on consoles, and it hasnt gotten any harder since then

1 and 2, for both ps and xbox

Hacked guns, shields, infinite skill points, flinging people out of the mapyou name it
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>>380349925

>Sony makes a retarded anti-consumer statement
>"XBOTS!"
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>>380351254
>Where did it glitch on you?
Randomly while flying around Hekseville basically it dropped a fuck ton of frames and then just stopped.
I also remembered that the mining elevator went up once I managed to record that one.
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>>380351537
To add, console games have virtually no anticheat, the only reason more console players dont hack is because they're all too retarded to do it
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>>380350968
Well Im Phil spencer himself and even i have to admit gravity rush is better than the shit filled sandwich i just tried to serve those dumbass xcucks at e3. I cant believe i got away with it. They dont even realise Ive given them fuck all for the entire year of 2017 and all theyre getting for the rest of the year is another forza and crackdown 1 remastered.
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>>380351371
Other OS was what pirates used and found on their own, it was NEVER a feature
Backwards compatibility, while nice, was still ASS on older systems and either didn't work for said game or made performance WORSE
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>>380344382
He's bullshitting, but I remember Swapnote was taken down because some Japanese pedos would use it to lure children.
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>>380331643
> /sarcasm
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console owners are children who literally cheer when something is announced to be exclusive

anything to justify spending money on PSN
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>>380352119
>Other OS was what pirates used and found on their own,
Dude, that was a feature of the PS3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherOS
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>>380351371
>That's why all of the multiplats were worse on it.

Not all of them. But if they were, it's just because PS2 wasn't the lead platform and the engine had another set of hardware in mind, and PS2 being the weakest in terms of power didn't allow them to reinterpret most quirks. The opposite of course, is also true.
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>>380352119
>Other OS was what pirates used and found on their own
Yea they used their incredible hacking skills to go to the settings menu and select the "Other OS" option.
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>>380331243
>Is arrogant Sony back?
They never left.
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>>380335338
>Neglecting Japanese devs

Microsoft put in more effort at courting Japan than Sony in the 7th gen.

> Funded the development of several exclusives aimed squarely at the Japanese market (Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia)
> Near parity with PS3 for all the worthwhile Japanese releases, often getting the version with the better performance. This would have been unthinkable in the previous generation.
> Heavily supported CAVE and other small Japanese developers, giving the 360 one of the best SHMUP libraries out there.

There's only so much you can do when both the market and the devs have a patriotic loyalty to your competitors' platforms.
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>>380352119
Sony got into a lawsuit over the removal of the OtherOS feature.
How did you not know this?
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>>380336193
Have games like Skyrim and Rocket League been available (legitimately) in easily-portable form before Switch existed? I guarantee that shit's probably like 99% of the appeal.
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MUH PLAYSTATION UNIVERSE

lol, Sonyjabronis will defend these hacks
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>>380333972
FUCKING THIS

IF THE GAME TOLD PLAYERS WHAT CONSOLE YOU WERE ON EVERY FUCKING GAME WOULD DEVOLVE INTO SHITPOSTING ABOUT HOW THEY HAD TO PAY MONEY TO DO WHAT OTHERS WERE DOING FOR FREE
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>>380331243
>We have a contract with the people who go online with us

Isn't this the same company that kept CC info in a .csv file?
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>>380352854
They left after the colossal failure of the PS3's initial years. A taste of success after everyone else shat the bed sent them rearing right back.
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>>380338829
Sony doesn't mind PC if it's ONLY PC that gets their games, that's why it works with SFV.
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>>380339683
Steam =/= Win10 Store
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>>380333972
Then why does Sony allow crossplay with the only platform who does not pay for online?
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>>380341494
Nintendo Xbox

NX.
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>mfw its been the third time they attempted to allow crossplay between consoles and pc`s for fps now
>mfw each time they cancel it and shove it under a rug
>mfw the reason why is because the sole determination for who wins a match is what side has more, or any pc master races playing
>that was literally it
>it could be 2 on 8 and if the 2 player team was pc they would win
>mfw
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>>380334251
lmao no, not even close
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>>380348297
TLOU 2 was announced at Playstation Experience
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>fucking over our consumers is the right thing by our consumers
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>>380343453
Fucking this. I got a Vita because "muh Atlus games", but unless you live in Japan, Vita might as well not exist anymore. It wouldn't have even had an E3 presence this year except Toby Fox decided to port Undertale to PS systems, and even then it's probably only going to VIta because of the JPN localization. They had every chance to try and fix it, and other than a half-hearted hardware revision have done nothng but quietly sweep it under the rug.
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>>380331243
Lol its basically we're your parents so we cant allow you to be exposed to non Sonybros.

They dont trust you.
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>>380344656
is this even available on anything other than PS/PC?
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>>380331506
>so blinded by his reddit teachings to hate sony that he doesn't realize how wrong he is
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>>380356530
Because sony doesn't see steam as a competitor. MS on the other hand is their direct competition, which makes w10 competition too with how MS tries to tie it in with all their other shit.

PC userbase, willingly or not, is getting divided on w10 users and everybody else, and MS actively encourages that shit w10 exclusives. If anything steam is lesser evil in all this shit, because gabe doesn't fucking care and will sell everything.
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>>380347126
I'd love to be able to play Zombies with one of my friends who plays on the Xbone, I'm really hoping this takes off, though it might be hard to do for games where PC players have an advantage.
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>>380346145
How would it hurt the devs if the decision wasn't their own? The devs WANTED Sony to join in, and Sony refused. Aren't any related shenanigans in terms of cross-play on them as a result?
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>>380360009
>Le reddit boogeyman
epic
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>>380334290
Just rename it to PlayStationGAF already
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>>380360160
>How would it hurt the devs if the decision wasn't their own?
>Devs say console/PC cross play
>can't do it because of Sony
>only cross play is PS4 and PC instead of Switch and Xbox as stated
Come on anon, use some common sense.
>>
>>380360147

I think if devs allowed players to opt out of crossplay altogether then it wouldn't be a huge issue. If people are worried about getting dunked by PC then they can turn it off. If they aren't then they can play.
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>>380331243
>Sonyjabronies are literal toddlers that need to be surveiled 24/7
Can't make this shit up
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>>380360012
Uh I'm pretty sure I wasn't talking to you, but thanks for replying I guess.
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>>380346760
SMTV, Project Octopath Traveler, Sonic Mania/Forces to name a few. Even if they're not exclusives, they still have the whole "play wherever you want" thing going for them on Switch compared to the other consoles.
>>
>>380360705
>asks question
>but i didn't want to hear answer from you, baka!
Are you alright anon?
>>
>>380360845
Then there's the fact that Disgaea went to it as well and even saw better numbers than the PS4.
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>>380341494
Nintebox Switch One X
>>
>>380331243
>People still support consoles, LET ALONE console specific multiplayer

oh

my

gosh.
>>
>>380331243
They should allow play with Nintendo and xbox. Not with pc though that never ends well ever.
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>>380360975
>Anon tells bullshit
>reply "it's bullshit because why else would X be Y"
>get replied with "X is Y because sensibile reason that has nothing to do with the bullshit you replied to"

I dunno anon, are you?
>>
>>380357886
It's not THAT much of an advantage, you know, most of these console players are very familiar and used to their controllers, they more often than not can play to compensate
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>>380359335
No, only PS4 and PC can play it
>>
>>380361281
We're absorbing xbox completely, slowly but surely

It's only a matter of time before Sony and Nintendo are next
>>
i don't play minecraft or rocket league so why do i give a shit
>>
>>380364764
>i bought a console and online service to play by myself
>>
>>380342485
They still don't ban people who DDoS in Destiny
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>>380341089
With the latest update Minecraft for Android has infinite worlds, don't see why consoles can't follow.
>>
>People acting like not having crossplay means ps4 players won't be able to find anyone to play eventually.
>There's between 2-20x as many players on ps4 than the other systems
>Game already has cross play with pc, which is the only other sizable community for rocket league.

lol
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>>380363214
>my opinion is more valid then 2 or 3 major companies and their actual tests
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>>380331243
>but the war thunder crossplay is fine

yeah ok allright
>>
>>380367942
Sony does crossplay with PC a lot.

They don't do crossplay with microsoft because being the console where everybodies friends are is a COLOSSAL advantage, and one that microsoft had last gen when they had zero interest in cross play at all.

The only reason microsoft wants it now is because they can't sell the shitbox.

It's funny, cause on PC microsoft is doing everything they can to not let people who buy games on steam play those same games with people who buy them on the windows store because they want to compete with steam.
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>>380368624
>and one that microsoft had last gen when they had zero interest in cross play at all.
That's less because they didn't want to explore it and more because PS3 versions had a legitimate disadvantage against other players.
>>
All I'm wondering is why would people get a ps4 for Minecraft?

After all these exclusives the ps4 got, I just can't think of a reason for people to get a ps4 for Minecraft.

For the Switch I can understand even if I were somewhat naïve - a console/handheld from a company that, in the west, focuses more on children and comfy couch gaming Minecraft would be somewhat legit as argument.

For the xXBOXONEXx it's pretty much to push the 4k meme. They revealed a new 4k platform in the xbox family, ofcourse Microsoft would use Minecraft for it and give it a 4k upgrade. Xbox and Minecraft are only in the same boat because Microsoft has the right to put them that way.

As for Rocket League, it has pretty much always been cross-play between Steam and ps4.
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>>380369549
>and more because PS3 versions had a legitimate disadvantage against other players.

You are in a thread arguing in favor of switch crossplay.

Microsoft didn't want it for the same reason sony doesn't want it now, because it only makes their competition look better.
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>>380369692
>All I'm wondering is why would people get a ps4 for Minecraft?

They probably didn't get it just for minecraft.
Because if you are buying a console for anything today you are significantly more likely to be buying a ps4 than anything else.

You have a ps4, ps4 has minecraft and other shit, you don't go buy an xbox to play minecraft when you can do that on the ps4, which has all the multiplat shit, actual exclusives, and odds are extremely leaning that if you have friends who play they also own a ps4.
>>
>>380370260
Then why even use Minecraft as argument when Minecraft is pretty much meaningless for ps4?
>>
>>380342142
?
>>
>>380369692
my kids because i dont want them using my pc for it
>>
>>380370557
>when Minecraft is pretty much meaningless for ps4?

Minecraft sold a SHIT TON on ps4.
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>>380363387
then you have your answer as to why the cross-play is allowed there
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>>380369783
Dude, PS3 games were incredibly terrible compared to their 360 counterparts.
It honestly wouldn't have been fair for those players.
>>
>>380371307
>You are in a thread arguing in favor of switch crossplay.
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>>380370260
as someone who bought Minecraft on PS3, it came with a voucher for the Vita copy for free and a $10 discount to upgrade to the PS4 version. If Minecraft is big on PS4, that is probably a good reason why.
>>
Microsoft should just kill the ps4 version of minecraft.
Teach these arrogant fucks a lesson.
>>
Since Minecraft ps4 isn't going to be crossplay does that mean its not gonna get the new custom server update?
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>>380371530
Yes?
Unlike the PS3 the Switch isn't a complete assbackwards monster to develop for.
>>
>>380372110
>Switch multiplats are fine! Totally comparable to ps4 and xbone versions!

lol
>>
there are more than 60 million PS4 owners, not worried about playing with the 20 million people on Xbox.
>>
>>380367358
>justifying getting fucked in the ass by a corporation for no reason

lol
>>
>>380372254
Anon, it's Rocket League and Minecraft
They're not exactly games put stress on the system.
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>>380331243
>Console owners support these business practices
>>
>>380372674
>Implying rocket league is going to run as well on the switch as it does on consoles

lol good luck with that.
>>
>>380372904
probably only gonna be 30fps on Switch
>>
That's a bullshit Nintendo excuse when they decided to destroy swapnote
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>every single time Sony gets in the lead they get incredibly arrogant and anti consumer
>it just gets worse and worse the bigger the lead gets
>it resulted in the complete shit show of years 1-2 of the PS3
>Yet sonyggs want Nintendo and MS to go third party so Sony can be the only console manufacturer and hold a monopoly
Are you fanboys completely retarded or something?
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>>380374958
You should see how they're shitposting in the Odyssey thread.

But it's funny how the fanbase is a reflection of the company itself.
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>>380331243
>sony admitting their games are for children and want to keep their playpen safe from the big bad adults..
>..like fucking Nintendo

wow someone screencap this faggotry to that whenever a Sonyfan says some shit about Sony being for adults that they can be reminded that they are literally being treated like children. LITERALLY.

In fact, Sony defenders should be kicked off the boards. They must be under 18 since they are children.
>>
itt: nintendo and xbox shitposting
360 era: its ok when ms does it

well, nintendo fans gonna nintendo, nuff said
>>
>>380340582
>you lived long enough to see sony fall
But it just did that last gen with the PS3
>>
>>380343250
xbox can already play with steam you stupid fuck
>>
>>380373146
It’ll be 60fps as the devs know it pretty much requires it, but don’t expect it to look great. Although they’ve managed to get the Chinese version working on literal toasters so maybe they’ll base it on that.
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