I really can't tell if games in the current age are really

I played a bit of dark cloud 2 last month

the gameplay has not aged well

still looks great stylistically even if the animation is stiff

>>380259540
But Dark Cloud 2 was horribly written

>>380259540

Your sentiment is spot on, but Dark Cloud 2 was never good, nice art though.

>>380259661
Awww that was the next game on my list

>>380259857
>>380259668
Its probably just nostalgia for me in this case then but I'm talking generally and not using dc2 as a lone example

>>380259540
Pure nostalgia, OP.

It was easier to establish connections with characters when you were younger because your child brain actually cared about the story and development.

>>380259540
It's a little of column A, a little of column B.

The real number of good games coming out hasn't slowed down much, but the gross number of games coming out has skyrocketed. So nominally speaking, a larger proportion of games now than back then are shit, but the real number of decent games coming out hasn't changed too much. The bar's getting lower, for sure, though.

>>380259857
not OP but Dark Cloud was awesome:
-can invent a lot of stuff
-great World, likeable NPCs
-GOAT OST
For that time i think its great and one of the best rpgs of the pS2 era

my english sucks sorry

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>>380259540
I want to fuck Monica so much.

>>380260102

There are cases to be made either way, Thief 1 & 2 are still exemplary examples of game design, writing and world building. RPG's certainly peaked a long time ago, but adventure games for the most part have come a long way, even shit like COD has come a long way on the story/character front.

>>380259857
I wouldn't call DC2 bad but after playing through it recently it felt a little dated but I still enjoyed it.

>>380259661
>the gameplay has not aged well
I played DC2 last year, it absolutely has aged well. And it's got a lot of gameplay elements that I'd like to see in games more often:
>item synthesis
>photography to make inventions
>georama
>spheda (the gameplay was sound, the levels they made you play on though...)
>steve

The only really shit part of the gameplay are Monica's monster transformations which are fucking useless.

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>>380260493

Why was this allowed.

only game with good fishing mechanics!

>>380259668
It was but most JRPGs are. The best thing about JRPGs stories are fun setpieces and DC2 is full of those.

Dark Cloud 2 is the only game I can replay over and over again every few months and it never gets old. It's a classic.

>>380260635
That monster thing with Monica was so badly made. I'm always sad when I think how fun it should be if it was greatly made.

>>380259661
the old "has not aged well"

eat shit please, you're probably like 21 and think undertale is amazing

>>380259540
Dark Cloud two is shit, especially compared with the first Dark Cloud

>>380259857
nu-nu /v/

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>>380259540
Monica in Japanese version is voiced by Natsuno Koori, an eroge voice actress.