>Monster Hunter "purists" everywhere online are

your dream is shit anon

>yet another thread where a non-member of the community who has never touched a MH game tells long standing MH fans how their game should play

Okay.

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>>380246063
>people that buy the same game over and over are afraid of change
Why does this not surprise me?

>>380246407
What games do you like, anon? Would you like it if your favorite game suddenly had its core gameplay completely changed just for kicks? Would you like to see something you enjoy become a watered down imitation of what made you fall in love with the series in the first place?

No, of course you wouldn't. To say otherwise would be a blatant lie. Think before you speak next time.

>much awaited HD MH still has ps2 graphics
I am laughing so fucking hard, this series is trash, Crapcom bringing this and mvc is just a slap in the face

>>380246861
>maybe smug rhetorical questions that leave no room to debate will force my opinion
Think I'll side with OP on this one, MH purists seem like fags.

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>>380246063
>non-member of the community
good to see fgc logic is spreading

>>380247146
So you admit that you have no counterpoint and you're only here to shitpost?

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>>380246861
Literally 1 trailer released and you're making huge judgement calls. Fuck off nig.

>>380246063
>their game
Lol

>>380247146
>Can't even find a counterpoint

Maybe you're the fag.

Shit dream for a shit pleb.

Do we know anything about the mechanics? How is it different?

>>380245339
They're just mad because it's finally going to be a good game in the MH series and they're gonna lose their niche-ass artificial difficulty barrier, so they won't get to feel superior for autistically investing time gitting gud anymore.

>>380246861
Reminds me of splinter cell. Point made, but I don't think new monster Hunter looks bad, but I get why long time fans would be pissed.

I LOVE HORIZON

>>380246063
Fuck off grandpa, nobody cares about call of duty of monster hunting

>>380246063
I never understood this mentality. If it's not a real monster hunter game according to you then why don't you just skip it instead of whining online about it?

>>380247769
>make a counter argument to a shit opinion
Why would he even bother

The purist know shit.

According to the trailer for all we know is that they implemented mechanics but did not remove any.

You are not forced to jump or use the environment to hunt.

If you so desire you can kill monsters in the same old way that you've done 1000000 times before.

They are just haters that instead of being glad that the franchise is getting another game while their games remain untouched spout shit claiming to know more than the people working on the game.

>>380246861
Except that the previous installments still exist.

I never quite understood the desire for new content in another installment with no change to anything in the game, and yet such an avid distaste for DLC from the core of this board. If there isn't some massive change to a game in the next installment, there is literally not reason to buy it. Just keep playing the old one.

>>380247987
>if you don't like it just don't talk about it

that's retarded, this is a board for discussion, not for positive circlejerking, if you want that, go to reddit.

>>380247436
The trailer shows a substantial departure from what the series traditionally offers. There's a difference between making tweaks and improvements to existing systems and completely throwing out what fans have come to expect and love from the series. When a new game from a series I enjoy is announced, I want to be excited and look forward to something I know I'll like. I don't like being made to question whether or not I want to continue to support a game which is gravitating away from core mechanics I enjoyed in previous installments.

Again, what games do you like? Why do you like those games? Would you still like those games if core mechanics were dropped in favor of radically different mechanics which don't mesh well with the established setting?

>>380247987
Because I enjoy Monster Hunter and I don't want to have something I enjoy taken from me, especially when it's being given to those who do not have the same passion for the series as I do.

>>380248220
>if you don't like it just don't talk about it
I asked you why you don't skip it. As in simply not play it. I never said you are not allowed to talk about it.

>>380248251
>Because I enjoy Monster Hunter and I don't want to have something I enjoy taken from me
The main argument I read is that it's not a real monster hunter. Just treat it like it's not monster hunter then and your problem should be fixed.

>>380248220
> This is a board for negative circle jerking, not positive circle jerking

You can't call bitching about change "discussion" and call welcoming change "circle jerking" unless you want your opinion discarded entirely.

>>380245339
PC coming after console potential of mods this could be great for capcom like what the gta v community is like

>Capcom changing the formula of a beloved game series that needed no changing
Because that worked so well the last times it happened, didn't it?

>>380246861
Well i was a fallout fan pre-2008, i still can't forgive a single sperglord on the bethesda softworks team.

>>380248393
good thing i did neither of those, learn to read.
>>380248358
>I never said you are not allowed to talk about it.
>why don't you just skip it instead of whining online about it?

I'm still waiting to see the facts before I judge it.

It looks like MH, but I will say that something seems off.

>>380248358
The developers have confirmed that this is not a spinoff title, so yes, it is a "real" Monster Hunter. I'm not going to plug my ears and pretend its something else, that's retarded.

I want to enjoy this new game, but after analyzing the information immediately presented to us, I have a lot of strong concerns. I'd like to write them off as unwarranted, but that's completely foolish. I want more information, especially if it can dispel my concerns, but as of now I can only cross my fingers and try to convince myself that these changes aren't going to compromise why I got into the series in the first place.

>>380248251
> I don't want to share my passion with newcomers

That makes you a faggot. A completely abhorrent faggot that doesn't deserve your fucking passion. The greedy desire to close off your passion makes you a cancer to the community, and the main reason developers would rather leave you in the dust and cater to normalfags exclusively. Fuck you, you killed gaming.

I'm fucking glad you feel like shit about this. You deserve it. I hope it becomes more casualized than a Bethesda game you sack of shit.

>>380246861
> autistic screeching intensifies

>>380245339
>MMMM YES CAPCOM, PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH SOME MORE!
Why the fuck are we infested with these reddit-tier faggots all of a sudden? Please just get the fuck out.

Because the game is not announced for Nintendo.

>>380248745
Every mechanic in previous games is in this.

You dont want stealth? Dont use it, I'm sure certain monsters will be vulnerable to it but If you are that hardcore I figure you dont have a problem soloing G ranks with green sword and shield.

>>380248772
not that anon, but what he views as his passion is traditional monster hunter 1-4

the leaks said this game would be targeting a western audience I.E not the audience of monster hunter 1-4

so it isn't "his passion" that is being shared, it's going to be an extremely casualized version of monster hunter (assuming from the leak of course, we don't know for certain yet)

and if it succeeds, then the trend of modern gaming will continue and further iterations of the series will be even further dumbed down until its a shadow of its former self


Of course all of this is all assuming a great deal when we really don't know much at all about the game just yet.

Just play the old games like you've been doing for the past 10 years instead of bitching.

>>380248772
If newcomers want to join the community, they are more than welcome to. There's nothing stopping them from picking up the game and playing. If they have no interest, then that's fine too, nobody is making them.

The problem stems from taking a game which has a long standing and established fanbase and greatly changing core aspects the fanbase has developed fondness for. All this does it cause unrest among those in the fanbase. The newcomers (assuming this is their first exposure) now have an inaccurate view of what the core values of the game were once about, and are disconnected from the rest of the community. Those who still do not care for the games will remain on the outside (except now they just shitpost for the sake of causing drama) and still do not join in.

Nobody benefits from something like this. Well, nobody except those who like starting console war threads.

>>380249567
What about those like me that stopped playing after MHFU since the series became a cashgrab with absolutely no innovation and relied on their stupid fanbase to buy the game regardless of how little changes there are?

World was made for a Western audience who don't understand why zones are broken up like they are and people too fucking stupid to understand the very difficult concept of 'move away from the giant shrieking rampage beast before using a potion.' I dunno if that was supposed to be Royal Ludroth towards the end or what. Is this a tie-in to the godawful-sounding movie?

Monster Hunter World seems like it's the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest of Monster Hunter games.

We'd better not be getting this over Double Cross. If XX gets localized, this trash heap can do whatever it wants.

>>380245339
>hurr people who like monster hunter dont like this game
>i hate monster hunter but i like this game because it's nothing like monster hunter durr

ITT faggots who bought a switch and now their meme machine is pointless when every other console, including pc, is getting a MH game.

eat shit

>Heavy Bowgun spraying bullets like an SMG
>hunter can move WHILE shooting
What next? Will they make it so you can move while doing the GS charge attack? Fucking disgusting

>>380249890
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "absolutely no innovation" in terms of evolving the series. Each game adds a bit more depth to every weapon's combat abilities and gives those who use those weapons more options and variety in their play. Improving monster designs, animations, and hit detection are also positive improvements made over time. I can see how the "release game and then the definitive edition later" marketing approach can seem like a cash grab, but that isn't really what the argument being made here is.

For the record, I'm of the opinion that Generations/XX are mediocre games and that Hunting Arts are a detriment which make the implementation of styles look worse due to their inclusion.

I'm cautiously optimistic. All we can really do is wait and see how it actually plays.
I've always thought the idea of an open world MH in which you actually stalk and hunt monsters sounded neat. The trailer was lackluster because it was hard to tell what the combat was actually like. I wasn't wowed by the MH4 trailer, but I ended up putting hundreds of hours into 4U. It all just depends on whether or not they preserve the core combat mechanics.
But considering they're coming out with another 'normal' MH game later this summer, even if MHW is hot garbage it doesn't really matter. If it really is a huge departure, im sure they'll keep making standard MH games, too.

>>380245339
Apparently the idea of playing Monster Hunter on a real controller is just too much for these "purists" to handle. It's ok though, they can stick to their casual handhelds while we enjoy the real game.

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>Generations is okay
>Worlds isn't

Why are nintenbros so fucking retarded

>>380245339
MH 4 is the worst fucking game I ever bought .. it's like a half a game

>>380245339
>Take a franchise
>Remove gameplay mechanics & challenge
>Add better muh grafix
Tada! You make the best game ever for retards. Final Fantasy 7, and now that. I'm afraid about Resident Evil 2 Remake now.

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>>380245339
>That feel when PC and Switch
>Get the best of both worlds
FEELS GOOD MAN.

>>380251736
What mechanics got removed?

>It's a both camps judge that game by a trailer that barely showed anything episode

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>>380245339
>turbo-autists dedicatedly shitpost every thread acting like they're psychics and can predict everything this game will be, even tons of shit that isn't shown
The MH fanbase on /v/ is the worst fanbase ever.
t. someone who has played and completed every game.

>>380248065
>You are not forced to jump or use the environment to hunt.
A part of the community it too autistic not to use the optimal strategy, even if they hate it and have the option to stay with the old and true styles.

That is assumign they dont change the movesets and animations altogether in this

>>380251736
>Remove gameplay mechanics & challenge

how did you conclude that from a cinematic trailer, showcasing new features?

when they release actual gameplay with the hud on i can't wait for nintendofags to get even more butthurt LOL

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>>380246861
>afraid of a game with 2 attack buttons being watered down

>>380245339

I think it will be ok. Monster Hunter is always changing and doing new things.

They could literally make it a Last of Us clone and I won't give a shit as long as they continue making traditional, Japanese MH games. But until they announce a real MH5, this game is going in the garbage.

>>380245339
>purists
GameFAQs are known to be quite the MH purists and they had a poll in which the "purists" got BTFO with votes saying that experienced players are interested, winning by a landslide.

No OP, those arent purists. Its the casuals who play MH and then drop it halfway through. Because now their favorite go-to time sink is different, and they cannot comprehend it.

just a little bit more of "gameplay"
https://oddshot.tv/s/ZL1Buu
https://oddshot.tv/s/fNxcDJ
inb4 everyone bitch about the bloody screen

>>380248358
>just pretend it isn't what the title says
>as /v/eogaf parades around how they "stole" "MonHun" from the evil Nintendo

>>380245339
>follow the glowy lights
>press X to mount
>press X to stay on monster if you fall off
>press X to zip around the environment and never get hit
N-Not casualized at all! H-h-hardcore.

>>380246063
>tfw can't say anything good about MHW because it will label be as a non-fan
Boy I sure do love videogames.

>>380256812
Honestly, I think this is the natural evolution of Monster Hunter. The problem with their games is they boast that the game was a hunting game - They pretty nailed it on the combat mechanic, but the world was kind of bland, gameplay wise. Don't get me wrong - Climbing in MH4U was cheese as fuck. But my point is , we do not know how the game will truly play, outside of that westernized trailer.

It might be the perfect Monster Hunter, if the combat is the same as MH4U without I.Glaives, more mechanic that aren't hindrering to said point and a seamless experience.

Fuck me i have FGC flashbacks, the same fcking behaviour, you bitch all the time about wanting a new game and about how you're a niche fanbase and how much you want an hd monster hunter and blablabla but when a new game gets annouced you're like "pfff fuck this casual bullshit amirite, fuck these new players fucking noobs why does the game try to catter to them, i'm so done with this franchise yadda yadda yadda". Fucking pseudo elitists

Monster hunter gameplay has always been bad/boring/poorly executed, whatever you want to call it. It's never once been good, it's strength has always been that it operates within a very specific niche of very hardcore fans.

These fans have proved resistant to any type of quality of life, control, mechanical, or graphical improvement of any kind within another series of games. To them the monster hunter title matters more than any single or combined feature of the games. They will never say outright "The name matters more than the gameplay" however their only frame of reference revolves around monster hunter, if you bring up any other game, they'll have no specific or valid critiques, prepare to hear a lot of "It just doesn't feel like monster hunter" and "Well in monster hunter..." or "I might as well just stick with monster hunter then!!"

What are the problems with MH that have gone unaddressed for 13 years?
1. Excessive monster HP and speed.
Many if not every monster in the game has far more health than it ever needed. Some monsters have double or triple the amount of health they needed. Most monsters move excessively fast, which leads to unavoidable damage, long time players will say there is no unavoidable damage, then cry to their friends and in the general all day about how some monsters are just too fast and damage is unavoidable.
2. Excessive monster run-away.
Almost if not all monsters can run away to a different zone, enjoy 5-7 loading screens every 2 minutes, my favorite is when they run just as you reach the new area they are in. Most hunts times are 90% loading screens caused by monsters running.
3. Controls are still bad
They've not improved their control scheme since the first game, and this was the number one complaint most hardcore players had at the time, even though it's not improved hardcore players are "used to it" so they will merely tell you it "takes some getting used to but isnt bad" it took them over ten years to get used to it though.

>>380251736
They said the game was catered to westerner, therefore we can assume that trailer was in the same fashion. We cannot assume how it will play without having a showcase of how it play Monster vs Hunters.

They'll probably use the "Dark souls" difficulty card

>>380257638
>tfw can't say anything bad about MHW because it will label be as a nintentard

So what are these core mechanics that are apparently being thrown to the wolves, judging by the trailer?

>>380246407

>A big part of the appeal is the complexity of the combat, crafting, and drop system, as well as the arcadey nature of the gameplay that lends itself well to local co-op sessions
>DUDE LETS STREAMLINE EVERYTHING AND MAKE IT MORE CINEMATIC FOR WESTERNERS, AND TURN THE GAME INTO AM OBJECTIVELESS ALWAYS ONLINE LE "OPEN WORLD" GAME

Not all change is for the better, especially when it removes more than it's adding to the formula.

>>380246861
holy you're so salty that your niche game is going to become popular as fuck

>>380258398
The trailer hasn't shown the core mechanics being removed, it's just exaggerating autists. They've confirmed all the base mechanics are still there.

>>380258398
>Muh Grapplings hook
>Muh environemental Hazard
>muh stealth
>Muh Bug that serve as UI
>Muh Climbing

It's laughable how some people are scared of changes. Most of those are actually a refresh in the series. What most fear, however, is they trivialized the combat gameplay for those aspects, because Capcom said they want to gain the western market.

>>380245339
No, not a purist but I'm waiting for reviews and if it's good, I'll pirate it. If it's shit, I'll just get monhun 5 for the switch or whatever when that comes

I've been playing since the one on the PS2 on every platform it's been on, which is almost certainly longer than most of you faggots. This one looks perfectly good. I'm convinced that the people raging at this are fanboys and autists. Who cares what platform a game is on?

>>380258597
Neither is exaggerating and assuming when you don't know shit yet about your claim being true.
Someone that works at Capcom already said potions, crafting, sharpness, and your general MH basics are still intact, so you can calm down and take your pills.

>>380258753
Will you pirate it on the Switch too? This is a mainline game after all, so that can't be a reason not to pay for it.

>>380258713
Isn't MH combat pretty straightforward to begin with? The only way they could make it simpler is by removing weapon gimmicks and buff items, and I don't see how that would draw in westerners.

>>380258185
4. Horrible weapon balance.
Theres 500 weapons! and 5 are ever remotely usable in any way for a series hunter per game. Weapons are buffed and nerfed indiscriminately between games, seemingly at random. The top weapon is rarely nerfed, the bottom weapons are rarely buffed, now enjoy these random ass completely unworthy nerfs and buff.
5. Excessive use of RNG
Monster hunter has no content. Theres about five hours worth of actual gameplay in a monster hunter game. Theres about ten years worth of RNG though. It's literally a single player game, they could have easily made targetted carves over the past 13 years, let players pick what they wanted most, but many players wear their soul crushing rng grinds as a badge of honor "ha look out autistic and ugly I look in my completely mismatched garbage set of armor! I grinded for 4,000 hours for this baby!" No hardcore MH vet every actually finishes their wishlist of things they wanted to make, even the most basic starter baby wishlists will always go unfinished, because they'll buy the next game before ever completing them.
6. Map design
10-15 loading screens per map is literally inexcusable. These maps are so fucking small and shitty, so many other games are able to display full cities even on the shitty handheld hardware, there is absolutely no reason for the loading screens to be like this. I literally have to assume that they want loading screens in the game to slow players down and pad gameplay time even further.

Theres more, so many more. But these are the tops for me.

>>380258614
>MH
>becoming popular in the west
lol
Capcom would have to air a commercial during the Super Bowl to get normies to acknowledge its existence.

>>380258989
Not even trying to console war but if it's coming out on PC, I'm gonna pirate just because I know it'll be a full price game and I rarely buy full price games. If it was a console exclusive, I MIGHT buy it. I plan on getting a switch anyway so I'd probably buy it on the switch. Now that the new spiderman game is shit, I don't plan on getting a ps4 so I think I'm gonna pirate it

>>380246861
How the fuck was the gameplay changed?
Only change I see is better artstyle.

>>380246063

>muh game

Kill yourself

>>380259708
Why do you ruin a classic image with your fucking console war shit? The usual filename went untouched for years and you fuck it up.

>>380259316
It doesn't need to be Superbowl Commercial obvious. Regular commercials can and do work. Freedom Unite and Tri both had hugely successful television advertising campaigns in North America. MH4U was advertised all over the internet, though I don't recall any televised ads. I'm willing to bet MHW will at the very least be plastered all over dedicated gaming websites and the few gaming magazines that still exist, since it's being released on PS4 and Xbone as opposed to just 3DS. We're incredibly likely to see at least some TV and Youtube adverts, too.

>>380246063
Longtime fan here, always hit endgame and make perfect sets for 7+ weapon types.

Games gonna be good. Nothing in that trailer was rehash, meaning that the parts that weren't shown probably are. So it'll have the core hunting mechanics.

Entire trailer appeals to hardcore fans. No one else knows what they're looking at. 90% of the hunt is slapping a monster in the face, they focused on the other 10% which is all brand new.

How can you see this trailer and think they ruined the series? It's been bad since MHX, and this is a hunting centric direction they're headed. Dope as fuck

>>380259817
Because console warriors are desperate and pathetic.

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I'm just happy it's coming to the xbox

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just as dumb as the people saying it looks like shit when we saw basically nothing

>>380260083
Just like the Monster Hunter 4 first trailer.

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I'm hyped for it after hearing it's still gonna have the core elements (health, stamina, sharpness bar) all I need to see is actual in game hunt. Extremely glad I won't have to play on a handheld anymore though.

People are really jumping the gun after seeing a small trailer for the game and for you that are crying about bland monster designs legit fuck off Gen 1 and Gen 2 had your generic European midevil dragons and monsters (Just look at Fatalis) MH is just going back to its roots of being a hunting game in a European setting.

I know we're all shitposting but capcom has literally fucking said old mechanic and gameplay hasn't changed much, they just showed off new fancy shit. Just like they fucking did with MH4.

>>380260571
Are they gonna post more gameplay soon?

>>380260778
There's a stream in 7 days.

My main concern is that they will lower monster HP and take out the grind, that may sound like a good thing, but you can only change so much before it stops being MH.

Its worth noting that this trailer was VERY bullshitified for the trailer. Look at the ORIGINAL MH4 trailer, where the player character didnt attack the monster at all and did puzzle platformer segments.

I DO hope the only thing they do to the combat is remove the anime bullshit from MHX / MHXX, but I fear they might go too far, hopefully capcom is too worried about sales to change it too much since japan will be the main market for this regardless.

Also no idea what the point of the stealth mechanics is unless there are still egg gathering quests or something.

The main two things in the trailer that truly looked out of place / different from gameplay norm too much to me were:
1. Grappling hook (in some contexts it seems fine, but others like dropping rocks on the monster seemed weird)
2. Hunters riding Remobra, really dont get what this is about.

Only played a bit of Monster Hunter Tri, apart from that didn't have contact with the genre at all.

How is what they've shown so far so different from the other games? Literally only jumping/environment? The enemy design and weapon handling looked pretty similar.

What's so shit storm inducing about it?

>>380254518
>The core of the gameplay revolves around there being 2 attack buttons

Quit strawmanning.

>>380260894
I'm torn over whether i want this game to be good or bad

>>380261037
>wanting a game to be bad
You have a problem.

As someone who only plays Frontier, I can conclude that this game looks like shit just like all console/handheld Monster Hunters

>>380246861
Man I would fucking LOVE a new AoM game

Something more like TW would be fucking amazing

Thanks anon, you proved you're an idiot and made me sad AoM is dead.

>>380260949

Nothing, it's nintendo fans false flagging.

The jumping/climbing/environments are all straight out of MH4.

It's literally just MH4 with better graphics.

>Nintendo got Double Crossed
Its still hilarious

>>380260932
Monster HP has been decreasing over each release. It's kind of bullshit, and I can see them really fucking it up this time around.

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>>380245339
No Marm
No Buy

>>380260949
Much like the first MH4 trailer, its impossible to tell how gameplay-y this trailer was, and people are just worried they are going to simplify the weapon movesets / casualise the game (If they remove that style and arts anime bullshit than thats great, but that's not the concern here).

Jumping / environment was introduced in 4, I think almost all concerns are coming from how little actual fighting was shown in the trailer, though MH trailers are notorious for spending good portions having the characters run away to show off the monsters.

Another good amount of concerns are also coming from the leak from way back which lines up perfectly with this game and says some worrying things.

>>380260571

Until we see more gameplay, I think being upset is a reasonable reaction.

Not necessarily in this case as it's still up in the air, but them talking about "giving the game broader appeal" usually means dumbing the game down for the lowest common denominator. Like, in almost every single case where devs have come out and said shit like that. It's never a good sign for a niche series. Even if the classic Monster Hunter elements like crafting are in there, I personally expect it to be dumbed down HARD for normies who don't want to look up drop rates or grind for rare monster parts. I expect the item pool to be decreased drastically.

We'll find out later today. I'll reserve judgement until then.

>>380246063
>non-member
>community
>their game
This would be funny if it wasn't so sad

>>380261385
>them talking about "giving the game broader appeal"
Which they literally never did

>>380261406
He's referring to the "totally 100% legit leak" that people keep posting made by a random anon that's already flawed.

>>380245339
The reason purists are mad is because they know that if you dumb down Monster Hunter a little so that non-autistic people have fun they'll actually start making money and will never look back.

>>380261406
Anon, they're releasing niche Jap game on the fucking Xbox. They're obviously trying to broaden its appeal.

>>380261385
>I'll reserve judgement until then.
>Proceeds to make a whole shitpost about how the game is doomed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0O9KwMZ7_8

Just a reminder why we might not need to be as worried about the actual game from its reveal trailer as we are being, these things tend to exaggerate the new.

Main worry for me is less weapons and less monsters, seems like another tri scenario where they cut the fat which is good, but with the higher quality monster assets one could be worried it will have even less monsters than tri.

>>380261620
Mm just like MH1 right?

Fuck off.

>>380261406

That was a big part of the initial leak, which turned out to be mostly true given the presentation of the trailer. The glow-y "witcher vision", the tacked on Horizon-esque stealth mechanics, and the apparent abundance of context sensitive "hit a button to do environmental damage to the monster" are a bit concerning too.

>>380261639

There's nothing wrong with being skeptical until more information is revealed, especially given Capcom's track record.

>>380261736
No, not like MH1. Are you feeling alright?

>>380261680
They've already said all 14 weapons are in

And I fucking hope they cut all of Gen 1 monsters and do new shit instead, that would be a fucking godsend.

>>380261385
>giving the game a broader appeal
That can mean a lot of things like making it available on multiple platforms with actual next Gen graphics or like you said dumbing down the gameplay to make it easier for casuals which I highly doubt since Capcom knows the fan base for MH and wouldn't want to fuck that up

I hope it plays similar to other titles in the series and the extra shit is just fluff you can use (stealth, wall jumping, etc) to offer more variety.

What I saw showed no online multiplayer.

It is possible they removed the individual zone mechanics too, which might be a good thing as well.

I am just hungry for some more Monster Hunter to be honest.

I hope it turns out to be good and blows the fucking doors off sales compared to anything ever released for the series on a Nintendo system so that it goes back to a console that can actually handle online stuff well.

>>380261769
>the initial leak
That leak is shit and people need to stop treating it like the gospel just because they want this game to be bad.

>>380261821
>MH1
>PS2
Your bait is fucking weak, have a (you)

Didn't these "purist" just got MH XX recently? Why don't just play that?

>>380261998
It was a shit trailer and multiplayer is supposedly a thing

>>380261826
Needs more Khezu and -dromes and don't forget all 250 variations of Rathalos & Rathian

>>380262070
Oh, you're being retarded on purpose. I don't know why I expected any more of /v/.

>>380261967

I really hope you're right. I'm just more skeptical.

I hope the game is great, I really do. I'm just concerned about it.

>>380262097
You see MHXX anywhere in the west pal

>>380261769
The last two concerns are obviously optional mechanics.

>>380262097
Because MH purists hate every MH after FU because nostalgia goggles. They just get more vocal during release time.

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>>380258185
And what makes you think that these "problems" will dispear with MHW? expect for the map design.

>>380261826
Can I get a source on the 14 weapon's thing?

Also I totally would be fine with not seeing any of the fucking garbo Gen 1 monsters (though Rathalos and Rathian are still fine, they've had their behaviour and movesets improved over time to meet the standards of newer monsters). Im just worried they wont bring enough new to the table. I think we saw 3 large monsters in this trailer? I couldnt tell if the fish guy was one or not.

>>380262097

>XX
>Pure

Are you honestly this retarded?

>>380245339
m8, the "purists" you're talking about are nintendo "purists"

and funny enough the levy the same insult to the oldfag fans

they just wanted MHXX and they're getting only that, like they deserve

>>380246861
I love Dragon Quest, and I want a remake of Dragon Quest I with Dark Souls combat.

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ALL THIS TALK ABOUT QTEs

Where were the QTEs? Did I miss something? Also what features were gutted? Everything looks there. The trailer just looks like it's showing new features. MH4's trailer had just climbing shit for fuck's sake.

Why are people mad.

>>380262235
Your meme opinions are stale, nobody considers FU to be good anymore

>>380246063
played MH since MH1 on ps2 and all I can say since the garbage PS2 graphic and horrendous monsters design in MHXX,

It's finally here...

>>380262451
What are you even trying to say to me? I'm stating a fact that there's a vocal minority who wants every MH game to be like FU. The people who complain at every new game or any new addition.

>>380259759
There are a lot of smaller things but the two biggest are that it's now open world (which likely means no mission structure) and the online multiplayer has become much more casual (you no longer form a party for missions you just drop people in whenever you want)

>>380261967

>Making the game easier

To be completely fair, Anon. The Monster Hunter games are hardly difficult when you understand the controls. It is just plinking away at a monster and rolling away from a few well telegraphed attacks that are piss easy to learn and frequently spammed.

The game is fun, no doubt, but hardly difficult.

>>380245339
>breaks the stale formula that existed since ps2
>breaks the stale graphics that existed since ps2

I'm a die heart MH fanboy and I couldn't agree more, OP. I'm really looking forward to this

I haven't seen a single person say this:
>I liked the original
>I 4u and x are a bad direction
>I do not like this trailer
the "purists" like this game because it is in the spirit of the original vision, whereas the newer games have been utter shite

"purists" will ruin every franchise. They're like metal fans. If you change anything or attempt to shake things up in any way they will tell you it sucks or "isn't a true X anyway". Just fuck off, you have like 7 games that all play exactly the same. Why resist it now? Haven't you had enough?

>>380245339
I did originally due to that stupid "leak" from here combined with sour grapes. Now that I've slept on it, it looks fine. All the animations are there and the focus on the environment and movement in a large interconnected map looks like a natural progression of 3 and 4. I just hope I can play it some day, whether by getting a good enough PC or a portable version coming to Switch.

At this point it's basically a crazy purist crusade.

>>380261083
well, if the game is a massive success, you can expect the next monhun games to be like this one regardless of if the current fans like it. I like the game as a spinoff but not as taking over the main series

>>380262535
and I'm saying you're wrong, it's pretty simple

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Fuck the seemless world bullshit, always online drop-in and out bullshit.

I've alwayed liked the more arcadey nature of Monster Hunters gameplay, where you can load up a quest or two in your spare time while you're on a lunch break or whatever. The quest/lobby based system worked really well for that, and the series became go to pick-up and play title. Just pick a monster to hunt, and you're fighting it within a minute. No bullshit, no filler, just combat.

I'm going to try the game, but it's a pretty big turnoff desu.

>>380262614

>no gaming PC
>neither a PS4 or a Xbone at least
>only a Switch

what the FUCK

>>380262679
>and I'm saying you're wrong
Then you clearly don't pay attention and are too new to have seen the same posts being made about Monster Hunter 4 that are being made now. Faggot.

>>380245339
I'm interested. I'm glad it's off the 3ds because I have big gaijin hands. We'll just have to w8 and see what gameplay changes are made.

Climbing was a mistake btw, fuck MH4U

>>380262751
I don't even have a Switch yet

This is the Assault Horizon of MonHun.

>>380262590
I like it because it looks like its cutting out a lot of the shit that happened in MHX (which I was REALLY not a fan of since it ruined the series that used to be pretty grounded in science and reality despite its fantasy setting). Im just concerned by the trailer that showed the hunter using stealth for no reason (seriously what was the point of it?) and using the terrain to damage the monster, I dont think he actually drew his greatsword against the monster at the ground once that trailer.

This is the first game since MGSV I'm excited for.
Everything at Sony's E3 looked so similar stylistically (for the most part), this game was the one standout moment. So glad this franchise exists.
I really can't wait to play this. I'd thought I'd outgrown videogames, but I'll buy a PS4 for this.
LET THE ENDLESS GRINDING FOR RATHOLOS RUBIES BEGIN ONCE AGAIN!

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>>380262719

>waiting in a lobby to start a quest is easier to play in your lunch break than just dropping in to play then dropping out

okay

>>380246407
They are ninty kids bro, they can eat the same shit.

>>380262614
I like honest people like you.

>>380262675
You say that as if regular MH is dead.
XX just came out, and G versions are treated like new games, and hasn't been ported to the west yet. You act like there's a gap somewhere.

I never knew MH fans could be this obnoxious and elitist

>>380262780
Nobody makes those comments anymore, 4U is very much the new FU, I've been around /mhg/ since it was a general on /v/, man

>>380262873
>implying random drops will stay
>implying you dont just kill a monster once and get all its gear because grinding doesnt look good in letsplays which is how 80% of people see gmes now.

>>380262610
Monster Hunter gets almost all its sales from purists. If they really do change the format substantially they wont sell jack shit. No new audience is going to come in for Monster Hunter. These games don't have broad appeal.

>>380262908
>Nobody makes those comments anymore
Have you been fucking sleeping? People are saying the same stuff they did about 4, and before that 3, about World. Doom and gloom end of the world schpeel and assumptions.
The same people who complained about 3 after the trailer are the same people who complained about 4 after the trailer and are the same people who are already complaining about World.

>>380262894
Nintendo shitposters are usually obnoxious and elitist, it's their main trademark.

>>380262875

The trailer and Capcom's press release implied that there would be a bigger emphasis on tracking and exploring.

What I'm saying is that I don't want that kind of filler, just want to fight monsters. Lobby based quests are more efficient in that regard, even if they're more "video gamey".

>>380262873
>This is the first game since MGSV I'm excited for.
Now you get to relive that disappointment for a second time. What a time to be alive.

>>380262894
They are normally pretty chill in my experience, most of the posters now are just the reactionary autists coming out in force

>>380263001
You say, as the ones that changed the formula the most sold the best
4U and 3U are the top selling MH games in the West and both did very well in the East

>>380262894

There's MH fans, then there's Nintendo MH fans.

>>380263001
what exactly makes you think they're changing the format substantially? What specifically about the development of this game has you so scared? It has the same staff working on it and the trailer was vague as fuck. If you're resisting the very IDEA of them changing your franchise you're being pathetic.

>these games don't have broad appeal

so you don't see how, in a post skyrim and dark souls world, a pseudo open world co-op game about hunting monsters with loot and crafting couldn't have "broad appeal"? Please enlighten me on these points or I will have to assume all the shitposting is just from butthurt nintendo boys.

>>380262235
These "MH purist" hate FU though and would rather MH go down the arcadey route it's currently going in like with XX and see shit like https://youtu.be/hpFsNeubnug

Instead of shit like https://youtu.be/imS8hZS9oTo

MH is a hunting game not a anime game if you want that go play God Eater or PSO

>>380263183
Of course the mainline games will sell the best idiot. This isn't a mainline game and it's not even on a handheld. They will need to triple sales to westerners to justify making this and good luck with that.

>>380263073
you seem to be using opinions on things based on how things were, which makes me think you have literally zero idea how things currently are

>>380263306
>like with XX
>he says with a straight face while a vocal group continuously whines about the new things X and XX are doing

>>380263116
map skills, psychoserum, boom problem solved.

>>380263278
Dark Souls does not have broad appeal either mate. Why are you even comparing Skyrim and Souls? Although Souls really highlights my point so thanks for bringing it up. Imagine if they fucked with the core Souls gameplay. If, for example, they removed bonfires or they stopped you dropping your souls on death. Would people still buy the games? I doubt it.

>>380262875
>Playing MH with other people.
>He can't solo everything
You some kinda faggot or somethin'?

>>380263561
But what about this makes you think they're removing the things you like?

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>>380263243
W-what's the difference? I'm a 3Ubabby that started on the Wii U and could never get into the 3ds games.

>>380263386
It's the same exact kind of comments after each trailer, and has been since 3.

Most of the usual mechanics seemed there but more emphasis on stealth and tracking till you get spotted. I'd say people could come around to this being the next step in the series, but I'm worried it'll lose some of its goofiness in the process.

>>380263306
>These "MH purist" hate FU though and would rather MH go down the arcadey route it's currently going in like with XX
Why would someone go on the internet and tell lies like this?

>>380263630
Open world and drop in multiplayer (which likely means missions are gone), as well as a greater emphasis on "cool" actions like the grappling hook and playing around the environment.

>>380246407
>change for the sake of change is good
>ruining a game for the sake of change is good
>abandoning your dedicated fanbase for change is good

>>380263551

That's assuming those things arn't being cut in favor of shoving their Batman vision mechanic down your throat

I'll need more information and maybe some videos of full hunts before I pass judgment, but my initial impression is that I don't like the change in format.

How exactly is MHW different than something like 3G (the last one I actually played)? Please answer without the use of buzzwords

>>380263792
but the loading in between zones in the old MH games is shit. It's the worst part. Don't you think they have a solution in place for this?

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>>380263792

>as well as a greater emphasis on "cool" actions

What? You mean like Insect Glaive acrobatics? Charge Blade Ultra Burst? All the stupid anime moves that Generations brought in?

And hookshot is where the line is drawn? Fuck you.

>>380263632
Ignore him, he's just trying to start consolewar bullshit.

I would divide the fanbase more into 1st-3rd gen, and 4th gen +, 4th gen is when they started to lose the more grounded combat by adding QTE mounting segments (which look like they are still in worlds but possibly less QTE-y and more dragon's dogma-y) and then MHX added anime superpowers to all the weapons.

MHW, assuming this trailer is all bullshit, and the leaks are bullshit, and this is just an exxagerated look at whats new in the game, appears to be going back to the more grounded approach of the gen 1-3 games, though with polish similar to or exceeding third gen.

>>380263561
You know, the fact that you need to use one of the most obnoxious fanbase ever to make your reactions look acceptable really makes me think.
But I agree, you dumb mhdrones are really making yourself look like like the soulfags.

It's just nint0ddlers mad their new system gets mh4 and the rest of us get mh5 with non-PS2 graphics honestly.

I'll reserve judgement until I play it.

An open world monster hunter could be fun, I'm just not sure how contracts and player death would be handled.

I don't know if we saw enough to conclude that this is going to be significantly different than other MH games.

iirc I've seen other trailers show the hunter sneaking around for a sneak attack, when in reality, who the fuck sneaks around?

>>380258185
>Monster hunter gameplay has always been bad/boring/poorly executed, whatever you want to call it.
It was "unfun" for general gamer crowd, pick your words right.

>These fans have proved resistant to any type of quality of life, control, mechanical, or graphical improvement of any kind within another series of games
Absolute disagreement. Over the time it enhanced on the questline pace, added a nice depth to weaponry and gear skills, added a screen-centering on current boss target button (which doesn't lock on though, just centers the camera focus, which is alright since in MH you must target not the bosses general body but its body parts) and with series migrating to 3DS the UI improved immensely since having 2 screens allowed to customize your own UI on the lower one placing things there that you'd personally use most often arranged in any way you want, all the while removing clutter from the main gaming screen.

>1. Excessive monster HP and speed.
Only once did I personally have problems with that, when I just started the series with MHFU and began doing guild quests instead of village ones. I had no idea that guild quests were attuned for multiplayer so enemies there did have much more damage and HP resulting in over 30 minutes bossfights with starting gear. Even then I thought that this was the norm and eventually learned to play the game and kill those bosses solo.

>>380263901
>Making wild guesses and accusations when there's barely any material to base those judgements on.
Nice child brain you got going on there.

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>>380264042
This is also okay to these people but grappling hook is jumping the shark

>>380264021
The things people are complaining about are based on a leak from months ago, not the trailer itself.

MH trailers tend not to show the core gameplay and focus on the new gimmicks, that being said some of the new gimmicks like stealth seem COMPLETELY useless.

>>380263954

>hunter opens a flask of fireflies to track scents and corpses left by monsters
>HURRR BATMAN VISION

I fucking hate Nintenfags. Remark the difference between this and pressing a button for psychoserum and running to a marker on your mini-map. One is an in-game visual cue, the other is a literal fucking marker.

>>380264042
For the record I am against the anime moves too
>>380264039
>the loading in between zones is the worst part
Why do you think so? I get that it's a bit unrealistic but gameplay wise I cant see a negative to it.

>>380246063
This is like the MGSV of MonHun and MGSV has the best gameplay in the series.

>>380263116
>Lobby based quests are more efficient

haha WHAT
the lobby / servers have always been retarded and clunky as FUCK. This could be WAY faster. Like choose your target, check hunts in progress Y/N, get matched and be ready to go. No region lock, WW release at the same time could also massively up your potential partners.

MH has MASSIVE potential for improvements, we'll just have to wait and see.

>>380248217
>I never quite understood the desire for new content in another installment with no change to anything in the game
How is that something that's hard to understand?
People want new features and content in a game they like. It's as simple as that.
Believe it or not new mechanics can be added to a game that change the game significantly without either casualizing it or abandoning the fanbase.

The real question here is why do people like yourself think that a game needs to be rehauled with each entry? That's literally why different games are there.

>>380264190

It's clear they allow you to setup shit much easier before starting the fight. Traps/bombs will likely be much more useful and necessary now.

>>380263632
Basically Nintendo MH fans weebs that like the way the game is with X and XX with crazy anime attacks and over the top monsters like Zinorge and Jet Dragon.

Then you have MH fans that put up with it because they like the series and the core gameplay but would rather the games go back to how it was around Tri. Of course some of these fans have to draw a line somewhere when they see shit like the MH Gen ending.

>>380262439
People are mad because the color aren't as vibrant as the other titles and no cooking music. So WESTERNIFIED.

Because we all know that no japanese game ever had lower saturation.

I am hoping the UI was just hidden, and there will be normal stuff like crafting and gathering.

>>380263561
BB has a pretty different gameplay and it's the most popular one. You idiots are basically the angry PC fags of this fanbase.

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You faggots are like fans of Super Mario complaining about the Mario 64 reveal. At least most people back then had the sense to understand that what they currently had was the way it was, because of technological limitations.

Franchises evolve, especially when technology exists to do them better (ie: no more retarded zone transitions).

Now I like monster hunter, and I've played three different versions for several hundred hours and done the whole g-rank grind shit, and I'm thrilled if this reveal means they are actually changing things up a little bit.

We've already done fucking everything there is to do with the system we've got, barring new (and even more op) weapons and combos.

Pic unrelated, but sure to trigger a couple little fags reading this thread.

>>380245339
I was concerned there would be serious changes to stuff but there's still multiplayer and the weapons are still there. The biggest things are no loading screens, the grappling hook, interacting with the environment and tracking the monster. Other than that I think it's gonna be just what you'd expect honestly. What little weapon swinging was actually in the gameplay trailer looked pretty normal.

>>380264216
if a monster runs away you have multiple (reasonably long) loading screens before you can get to it, for no fucking reason. I literally cannot see a downside to these being removed. It changes nothing except for reducing frustration. If you want to spend the next 10 years of this franchise's life playing games that have not moved on from the fucking PSP then by all means stay mad as fuck. I think this game looks cool and it'll be the first MH game I'm buying since Tri.

>>380264167
>This is also okay
Yeah, look at all those MH fans that are okay with XX. All two of them.

>>380263954
But if the bugs replace those then your original gripe about not being able to just bum rush the monster at the start of a quest becomes moot. It's literally the same thing except more stylized.

Why don't people like this concept? It looked really fun. And the maps looked more detailed and dense.

I guess MH fans can hate it. But I've played all themonster hunters and this looks like a shitload of fun. You people already got like 6 games. Let us Western fags have one.

So who are the developers? Is it in house or outsourced?

>>380245339
Nice bait

>>380258803

Same. I think most people bitching are the Nintendo autists. I'm just glad I can play this series now in HD and a real controller.

>>380264392
The only substantial change to BB's gameplay is that the combat got faster and they introduced lifesteal so you don't get your shit fucked up. Otherwise it's just another Souls game. Regardless, bloodborne sold like shit so it doesn't even fit your argument.

>>380245339
I'm not a MH "purist". It looks like westernised shit.

>>380264424
>no more retarded zone transitions
Fantastic. Now we have to actually walk down the entire corridor and empty flatlands just to get to where the Rathalos ran away to, rather than just skip it and go to the next area.

The thing I'm worried about is the over reliance on trapping as shown in video. Its cool, yes, but its going to gut the actual combat and skill/technique behind base-level hunting. Weapons are going to take a hit from this garbage michael bay-lite shit.

The only cool thing I liked in the reveal was the tracking aspect. The grappling hook, complex super traps, scripted fleeing segments, and "Stealth"(The one fucker even bumped directly into the player at the end ffs) just looks like they'll be overly complicated and not fun to learn or adjust to. I get a horrible feeling that the game is going to either have only 10 real monsters that are fucking hard as shit, or the hunts are going to take upwards of 2 hours each for mediocre carves. I want to like this game but there are red flags everywhere right now.
The next reveal better show off some shit that wont alienate some of the core audience.

>>380264443
Don't kid yourself. Ever since World people have been defending XX.
>>380264551
House

Looking back at it the only thing that didn't feel MH were the item use animation. A lot of the player and monster movements were directly moved over.

>>380264294
>the lobby / servers have always been retarded and clunky as FUCK.
>old way
>enter lobby
>prep
>armwrestle
>head out

>new way
>Pick target
>connecting...
>connecting...
>connecting...
>Pick person
>connecting
>cannot connect with player

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>>380264449
>I guess MH fans can hate it. But I've played all themonster hunters and this looks like a shitload of fun. You people already got like 6 games. Let us Western fags have one.

I can't tell if you people are false-flagging or just genuinely liars at this point.

>>380261009
and what part of the trailer that showed no combat leads you to believe that the two attack buttons are different than the previous games?

fuck off salty nintendlard

>>380264609

>people

Nintenbros hardly qualify as "people".

(cont'd)
>>380258185
>Almost if not all monsters can run away to a different zone, enjoy 5-7 loading screens every 2 minutes, my favorite is when they run just as you reach the new area they are in. Most hunts times are 90% loading screens caused by monsters running.
Running away is a great immersive mechanic which also encourages player to keep track of the monster actively as well as learning the monsters' habits and nesting places. A good player who'd spent enough time learning about his marks would know where the monster ran off to. And loading screens might irk someone but honestly I don't remember them being that long. And I have no problem with the game going semi-openworld though with all subzones being seamlessly turned into one big zone.

>3. Controls are still bad
I expected to read what exactly is bad about them but then you never elaborated on that so here's just my opinion. The controls may feel clunky for a newcomer but eventually when you get the hang of all the movesets and combos they become as natural as they can be. I cannot even imagine how combat actions could be "improved". However, some things could use some improvement especially the stupid flexing animation after using a healing item. It just looks stupid and infuriates more than makes any sense. I understand that in order to use an item successfully player must calculate the safe time window for that and be punished if he did so wrong. But that could be done with just longer item usage animation with removal of afteruse flex. Other than this I cannot remember any glaring offenders.

>>380264580
It's what I imagined Dragon's Dogma 2 would look like

>>380264609
That makes sense, I feel the grapple hook is left over tech from lost planet games.

>>380264585
Why do you assume that the same people that have been with this franchise forever haven't thought of the same potential shortcomings as you, a fat man who browses /v/?

>>380248065
The fact they didnt show off *any* regular combat makes me think this game is going to heavily push you towards more 'realistic' hunting

>>380260061
For PC as well
I am glad that all the anons will join the hunt

>>380264758
so... sitting in a tree until a dragon comes by and you shoot it?

>>380248065
The "Purist" have been playing since 4u only two fucking games in the west. The majority of PS2 fans who have played since then are on board and have been waiting a LOOOOONG time for this. Myself included.

>>380264449
The trivilization of different weapons by giving a heavy blade an 'Attack on Titan'-esque grappling hook, replacing actually hunting with the Witcher 3 turn-of-your-brain smell-o'-meter and the 'ease-the-casual-in' environmental damage dealers that require no thinking.

>>380246861
>Would you like it if your favorite game suddenly had its core gameplay completely changed just for kicks?
God of War looks good

>>380264585
>Now we have to play the game
>Also these are locations where you can fight the enemies in the first place

>>380264758
Maybe because it's a fucking promotional trailer? Are you just stupid? Wait for an actual gameplay trailer you moron.

>>380264692
Do monsters not run away in this one or something? Open world doesn't mean they can't run.

>>380262869
>whats the point
perhaps to set a trap or get the first hit while it isn't attacking, or maybe getting the first hit does more

I don't see any negative implication of stealth though?

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>>380264585

What makes you think there will be a corridor and empty flatlands, you aspie fuck? Goddamn, you are such a moron.

>oh no, I can't barrel bomb myself through a loading zone to shave .5 seconds off my speed run anymore!!!

Don't worry you sperg, I am certain that there will be a whole NEW VARIETY of retarded bullshit to discover, to slake your thirst for "muh speed kills".

>>380246861
Except that you had your "favorite game" half a dozen times. It is not like they are changing the franchise at the prime of its life.
Jesus christ, just replay the old games if you want to play the same thing for 6 different versions of the game.
Everything gets old at some point, just accept the fact that things need to change eventually. And that goes for more than video-games.

>ps vita when??

also:
>paying to play online LMAO

>>380264663
>old way
>enter server
>no rooms for your target
>new server
>enter lobby
>prep
>dude is afk
>enter lobby
>2 dudes post their urgent and refuse doing anything else
>armwrestle
>head out alone

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>>380262751
People have different configurations. Some may just have a PS4 or Xbox, just a PC, or older systems, too

Sorry if a simple concept confuses you

>>380264884
Maybe, you know, you can wait to play it before shitting on the grappling hook so hard?

>>380246861
>core gameplay completely changed
>they just added a grappling hook and a seamless map
Ever considering going to acting school, drama queen?
Did you bitch and moan this much when they added jumping, mounting, hunter arts, and styles?
You're just a falseflagging retard.

>>380262541
>it's now open world
This is the best thing that oculd happen to MH. It's 2017, these games don't need to have the level design of a PS2 game anymore

>>380264884
Fair enough. I can see how that bothers people. But I guess I'm still gonna play it even if it is casual shit. Monster Hunter is a title I can't turn down.

Im worried about the way they described the online. It sounds like Souls games where its a hassle/convoluted means of getting friends into the same game because they made it sound like you use some flare item (like a stone in Souls) to summon a completely RANDOM person to your current hunt.

>>380264946
The anon I answered to was ranting about already existing games, not about the MHW. And it was mainly about having to run through several zones experiencing the loading screens between them.

>>380265113
Nah.

>>380245339
what's the new gameplay like, compared to the old?

https://twitter.com/SocksyBear/status/874622385474981888

He's back at it answering some questions

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played monhan religiously since MHFU
this is the step forward the series has needed; i'm fucking excited. they've already confirmed all 14 weapons'll be available, and the combat in the trailer looks completely lifted from past monhan games (at least in terms of animations)

if you're not excited then you're a moron

>>380246861
>watered down
Monster hunter was never difficult or complex. It was grindy. There wasn't a single complex mechanic to it.
The only difficulty in the game is enjoying it enough that you can get over the horrifying grind and sponge bosses.
There is no watering down if neither complexity or difficulty are reduced.

>>380265174
More casual

>>380265174
Nobody knows for sure as of yet.

>>380246063
I've played MHFU, MH3, MH4U and MHGen. Not all fans are elitists who want the same fucking game for the nth time. Thank go they aren't catering to you mouthbreathers anymore

>>380262869

We already know what using a greatsword looks like in MH.

The purpose of the trailer was obviously to demonstrate the new features, and inclusion of certain recent features which were popular (air attacks).

I thought it was implied by the hunter sending the flare up at that pint, that the entire 'chase' was to lure the not-trex into a confrontation with the rathalos.

>>380264953
>perhaps to set a trap or get the first hit while it isn't attacking, or maybe getting the first hit does more
Setting a trap doesn't require stealth in MH, monsters will attack you and fall into them. The first hit on an unaware monster DOES do more damage, but slinking around this far only wastes time for style points at best, and making this a focus will only slow hunts down dramatically for a novelty.

>>380265073
Hold on, do you just prowl lobbies for one that's hunting that specific monster?
There's literally an option to make your own

>>380265139
>summoning only random people

I really doubt that it's only random. The flare function probably works like Dark Souls but people can see who's summoning so you can just summon bros in the hub city and then go out to hunt the shit out of everything.

>>380265202
>if you're not excited then you're a moron
Or you don't want to turn your brain off when you Hun the Mon
Or you don't want to play Attack on Titan

>>380265139
What makes you think they wouldn't include a way to go with your friends? What sort of retarded logic do you work under that makes you think they'd only ever include the ability to play with randoms?

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>>380264884
Oh, shut the fuck up. Monster Hunter never had "actual hunting", and you know it. You just waltz up to a monster who always spawns in the same zone, throw a paintball on it (if you haven't memorized where it goes by now), and just smack it until it dies.
It actually looks like they're adding an actual HUNTING aspect this time, if anything.

>>380265081

I can totally understand that. I can understand only owning a PC. I can understand only owning a PS4 or Xbone.

But only owning a Switch, let alone any Nintendo console precludes you from so many fucking games I can't believe people would do so unless all they fucking play is Mario and Zelda.

Do you not play 4X strategy games? Do you not play PC FPS games? Do you not play the random genres like Yakuza, Persona, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Dark Souls, Tales of X etc. or even the western games like Far Cry, Divinity OS.

What does a person who only owns a Nintendo console even actually fucking play? Splatoon and BOTW over and over and over again?

>>380265174
based on salty nintendo fanboys first hand knowledge and a demo showing zero combat, i'd say its safe to assume it's watered down western shit that looks like an anime fight

>>380248251
>throwing out what fans expect and love
Oh you mean lazy rehashes? Oh I guess MH "fans" really are the worst fanbase. Good thing games actually evolve overtime. RE4 was the best RE too.

>>380265313
Do you think maybe from a marketing standpoint you would want to make sure that your original fans know that it's still the same combat? Maybe like give it a bit more than 3 seconds of footage?

is this gonna come out for ps3?

>>380265403
>they're adding an actual HUNTING aspect this time
>it's automatic and doesn't need any input
Maybe you should shut the fuck up

>>380265174
No one is sure yet. Trailer just showed off new mechanics and how the maps will work. The hunter in the trailer did 2 attacks and that was it

Those complaining that the gameplay is ruined are just basing it off of nothing

>>380265319
>setting a trap doesn't require stealth
maybe it will?

>will only slow down hunts
not inherently bad and good in my opinion

what do you think it is if you are reacting negatively?

>>380249978
>>380249978
>World was made for a Western audience who don't understand why zones are broken up like they are

because the 3ds cant handle open world, and this was the closest they could get to open world

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>>380265376
>i'm assuming the combat will be mindless despite zero indications that this will be the case
>i'm assuming that you can literally just fly all over the map like spider-man despite zero indications that this will be the case

uh huh go on anon

>>380265572
>Those complaining that the gameplay is ruined are just basing it off of nothing
Or those with eyes.

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>>380264338
>Zinogre
>Sucks

You take my monsterfu's name out of your mouth right fucking now.

>>380264884
Now thats bullshit and you know it. They didn't have 'hunter vision.' They used a firefly item that could track the scent of monster footprints, etc. which if you applied some thought would see thats a better mechanic than just chugging a psychoserum.

>I've played MH since PS2, and I can safely say that this game is literally everything I've wanted
How many times are you liars going to repeat this until you think it's going to stick? This game is lacking in pretty much every way I can conceive of. They are really going to need to deliver for this game to actually draw the interest of legitimate MH fans instead of anti-Nintendo brigade.

>Huge focus on stealth mechanics for that epic Fabella's BIG GAME HUNTING feel that nobody gives a shit about when fighting monsters is the full fun of it
>Ghillie Suit and machinegun for some cool CoD effects
>Hookshot that just pulls you out of problems whenever you want to, so nothing's a legitimate threat
>People bitching about anime in XX while praising re-hooking into your mount after getting tossed off by a scripted tree
>Featherless chicken looks terrible and its only attack we've seen has been "fire", and this fire is innocuous at best

>>380265543
Even features that happen automatically are still better than none, you massive faggot.
Monster Hunter was just a grindy one-person MMO, no matter what you say.
You'd walk to the same zones, fight the same mosnters in the same places a thousand times so you could get the equipment to go do the same thing somewhere else.
Fuck you and everything you represent.

>>380258185

>very specific niche of very hardcore fans.

4U sold 3.5 million copies

>>380265663
>They used a firefly item that could track the scent of monster footprints
>which is basically hunter vision
Ok anon.

>>380265697
You really sound like you hate MonHun

>>380265642
Not sure what your eyes saw but there was no combat gameplay besides like 2-3 attacks which looked normal.

>praise the game

>hurr ur a casual who has never played the game before

this shit needs to stop. ive played every 3ds version and im hype as fuck for this.

>>380245339
All the purists can cry all they want. But plain and simple, this is where they always wanted to go with monster hunter as a series. They just had deals with nintendo and stuck to heavily outdated tech. Reading instruction booklets and seeing the ads about "immersive" worlds in old monster hunters was bullshit. They are finally meeting there promise. All the key gameplay is intact too if people would pay attention to the trailers instead of foaming at the mouth about "muh western casualization" meme that was PRE-BUILT by the MH community immediately before seeing ANY footage of this trademarked name.

>>380248251
>professes to speak for all fans
>is getting mercilessly shit on by anyone who isn't a nintendo only faggot
>newer games are the worst received
huh, really makes you think

>>380265616
>because the 3ds cant handle open world, and this was the closest they could get to open world
Then why are Frontier and MHO separated into zones? I'm sure Unreal Engine 4 can handle it.

>>380265403
>(if you haven't memorized where it goes by now
So what you're telling me is that before you needed to memorize the hunting grounds of the monster and their nests?
Gee, sounds like what people do when they're hunting!

Seriously though, every monster has their different habits and weaknesses something that you obviously never bothered to learn even though the game teaches you.
Like how the raths respond to you picking up the wyvern eggs and fly back to the nest.

>>380265684
Its literally just one trailer released yet who purely showed whats new in the game. It was aimed at veterans.

>>380262719
that's not what they mean by "seamless world"

They just mean that in hunts you won't have to have loading screens in between zones and that the hunt areas will in general be larger.

The only people who could see this a not an improvement are fucking autists. There is nothing good about loading screens.

>>380265609
>maybe it will?
That would be fucking terrible. Why do I need to find myself out of a monster's lock beyond pseudo-immersion in order to set a trap for it?
>not inherently bad and good in my opinion
It's inherently bad when this is a game about fighting similar monsters over and over again. All this will do is drag the process out and make every fight that much longer and more tiring.

>>380265684
Based reactionary retard, amazing snap judgment calls from a trailer of all things.

>>380265758
Reply to the rest or you lose. There is literally nothing wrong with an item that can show you footprints when the series has an item that previously showed you exactly where the monster was on the map with an indicator. Yet you bash an actual ingame mechanic for tracking.

>>380265543
>old MH games
>drink a Psychoserum
>Know where the monster is instantly
>bumrush to it and throw a paintball

>MH world
>Use fireflies to detect the scent trail of the monster

You want to know how I can tell you never actually touched an MH game in your life?
This is literally an improvement over the other games, and you're complaining about.

>>380265762
IT'S OPEN WORLD! I CAN'T DEMONSTRATE MY VAST KNOWLEDGE OF THE GAME TO RANDOM SHITTERS BY INSTANTLY RUNNING TO THE ZONE THE MONSTER FLEES TO!!!!

>>380262875
drop in and out measn deaths matter less this time. Most likely they are chaging how missions works wich would be shit if they remove the time.

>>380265515
Anaylised the trailer like mad and noticed that GS still has "Rising Slash". This was a two-buttons attack, which makes me think that its moveset is unchanged. We didnt see a single 3charge mind you but that attack may be not be considered cinematic enough for E3.

If any moves get cut, im expecting the three-charge finisher to go, which isnt a big loss since it disturbed the flow of GS to begin with.

>>380265642
You guys are false flagging or jumping the gun off of 1 trailer. Fuck off
>>380265643
He's been in every MH since P3rd he's shit

>>380265835
No anon, you should never use your brain, allow the hunter vision to guide you to your hunt instead.

No need for thinking.

>>380245339
hold on, is there no companion cat?

>>380265868
So basically there's going to be fade to blacks when transitioning.
That's fucking dumb.

>>380246063
Hey I know i'm 3 hours late but have you ever thought about killing yourself.

>>380264884
>replacing actually hunting with the Witcher 3 turn-of-your-brain smell-o'-meter

Actual hunting involves deriving the location of your quarry through environmental clues, such as spoor, tracks, trails, and visual cues in the environment. Kind of like what was displayed in the trailer.

Because you are experiencing a 'hunt' through a two dimensional medium with limited graphics fidelity, a system to highlight these cues is helpful. Especially when the character being played is canonically an expert at tracking.

I'm not sure what ever led you to believe that what MH had before this was 'actual hunting', when it involved using an item to instantly highlight the location of the monster on the map, or simply charging around the zones till you ran into the creature, based on its possible spawn locations.

That's not hunting.

>>380265035
literally a butthurt nintenbro post

>>380265319
Seems more like just another option to me than a major gameplay mechanic.

>>380265515
Do you think maybe you idiots shouldn't be such paranoia queens over nothing and simply wait to PLAY it?
>a grappling hook CASUALIZED CASUALIZED CASUALIZED CASUALIZED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That's how you are sounding right now.

>>380262360
This, I played it on Playstation consoles originally. This is where it should have been headed all along. Finally coming home to consoles/PC. Looking better and with better/deeper gameplay mechanics than the old "press X to attack, press A to dodge" until its dead, old school monster hunter. Thank god they are advancing.

>>380264884
>actual hunting

WHAT HUNTING. You talk as if there was "hunting" in the previous games. There wasn't. Monsters would always spawn in the same places, follow the same patterns. Even throwing a god damn paintball on them was just a gimmick for new players who didn't already memorize the path the monster takes because you've killed 500 times already.

>>380265230
>It was grindy
God forbid having to kill a boss several times for its loot in a game about killing motherfucking bosses!

>There wasn't a single complex mechanic to it.
Elaborate "complex". Having to keep in mind and utilize many several things at once to succeed counts as pretty "complex" for me, namely:
1) different body parts of the bosses having different properties and how they react to different weaponry;
2) remembring boss moves and patterns, reacting to them and positioning yourself appropriately;
3) knowing and executing your weapon's moveset in the most efficient manner;
4) using environment to your advantage;
5) using items, bombs, traps, etc.

>sponge bosses
The difficulty comes not just from having to do something right just once or twice but it comes from having to keep doing that over prolonged portion of time which depends on how well geared you are and how well you do in actual combat. Most bossfights with bosses that you already know how to deal with do not take longer than 4-5 minutes of actual fight. That is absolutely fine.

>>380246063
>played every MH game so far
>will play MH world too
enjoying your tears, faggot

why wasnt this on nintendo consoles
JAJJAJAJJAJAJA

>>380265896
>Reply to the rest or you lose
How new are you to the internet son?

After the dogshit Generations was I'm ready for World.

>>380266008
I just think it's not a very good trailer

fuck off, retard

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>>380245339
You guys do realize that MHW is basically every Monster Hunter trailer becoming real gameplay tight? I mean have you seen the trailer for the first monster hunter?

When they say seamless world do they mean like say BOTW where its one huge RPG open world and you can run into any monster from day one, or do you think theres still hubs where you can pick up specific quests to make certain monsters and gathering objectives appear but in a seamless world outside of town?

>>380265925
who cares if he's shit, adding more things to hunt and therefore more gear to collect is literally the only reason people play the game. it doesn't hurt anything

Japs holding back some vids removing them from youtube and shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HllNN-i2KEU
https://oddshot.tv/s/0-whhN
https://oddshot.tv/s/fNxcDJ
https://oddshot.tv/s/ZL1Buu

I'll need to see a hunt from start to finish before I decide to purchase this.

>>380265950
Probably not, and that wouldnt be a big loss to me desu. Never been a fan of Felynes even though I know japan loves them. I know they were optional but if I have to hunt solo without some cat making constant cat noises and making cat puns, ill hardly complain.

>>380265609
>not inherently bad and good in my opinion
it is givign the grinding nature of MH it will make grinding more annoying.

>>380246063
Monster Hunter sucks on Nintendo hardware. Get over it.

>>380266023
We get it, you don't like MonHun, why do you keep coming to MonHun threads?

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>all fourteen weapons present and accounted for
>no regenerating HP, health, stamina, potions, sharpness confirmed to function identically
>palicoes confirmed
>developed by mainline monhan authors

sorry, /v/, the game's gonna be good

>>380265840
>It was aimed at veterans
And if you can see the state of people who actually play MH on /v/ versus people who claim to have been "playing MH since MH1", it has failed to land that mark with this emphasis on turning it into Cabella's Big Rathalos Huntinug rather than actual battling of monsters, which has drawn us into the series to begin with.
>>380265885
Should I assume any better of this game when we have nothing else to base it on but a trailer? One that's definitely supposed to be representative of gameplay? Every other MH's actual gameplay trailers showed us very quickly that they have primary MH mechanics as a focus. This one has immediately shown us that it doesn't, and that's why so many people are railing on this game.

>>380261385
>Until we see more gameplay, I think being upset is a reasonable reaction.
you mean unreasonable

>>380262614
True. I was skeptical at first too. But seeing the Japanese footage of gameplay and thinking on the new possibilities has me pretty excited. Still wanna see a bigger roster.

>>380266181
The turbo autist fanbase on /v/ won't let you think that

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>all 14 weapons confirmed
>HP, stamina and sharpness in
>ecology and environment playing a greater effect
>open world
>a fucking console Monster Hunter which everyone has been wishing since forever
>back to it's PS2 roots where there was greater emphasis on the hunt

>people are mad

>>380246861
Meleefag here
You don't know shit bout your favorite game being changed drastically next title
You'll be fine you faggot

>>380266123
Literally the Lightning of MH at this point

>>380265202
Been playing since MH1 and I'm looking forward to it way more than XX. The gameplay, while still fantastic, never captured my initial perception of the game when I first started playing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAbijWwGbfw
>Monsters interacting with the world
>Monsters eating other monsters
>Being chased by monsters
>Luring monsters into a trap

All of these things were never present in the series in any form. MHW looks like it's capturing the feel of the cinematic trailers and shifting away from the arcade arena it was built on. I still need to see more of this game but for right now I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>380248251

>Again, what games do you like? Why do you like those games? Would you still like those games if core mechanics were dropped in favor of radically different mechanics

I've been a big Zelda fan for about 25 years. This is exactly what Breath of the Wild did and it's probably the best game I've ever played. I don't think it's particularly productive to get hung up on the specifics of individual mechanics. I'd rather examine what they brought to the formula, and think about what feelings are evoked by changing up the mechanical specifics of that formula. At first, I missed the traditional dungeons of past Zelda games, but the more I played Breath of the Wild, the more I realized that the danger, exploration and aesthetic variety that they brought to the table in previous Zelda games was more thoughtfully integrated into the world map than in any of the previous games, and it doesn't feel like a huge loss at all.

If they want to change up the nitty gritty of Monhan on a mechanical level, I'm interested in seeing what it turns into. If it can evoke or expand upon similar feelings from previous games in the series, I'll welcome the changes with open arms. Change can be scary, but some of the best art comes from designers who aren't afraid to take risks.

>>380265903
This is something I might enjoy. I didn't like how after fighting a monster a few times you knew where it was scripted to hide, rest, eat, etc based on its health. I hope now it just flees to a bunch of areas or as far as it can get. But thats wishful thinking.

>>380266186
There will be more gameplay shown on the 20th and I think on the 15th dont be impatient

>>380266240
>>380266181
I love you Capcom marketers, really pushing niche games, but try harder next time, 'k?

>>380266023
You realise memorization is a part of real life hunting right?
You don't just go in guns blazing, you search and figure out the nests and patterns of the animals you're hunting and MEMORIZE them when you're hunting again.

>>380266138
i feel ya would be nice if they were optional this time around though, funny as fuck to see them go ape shit.

>>380266240
>PS2 roots
That's exactly why.
People who started with Tri don't understand and think it's a vast, major difference

>What do you mean I have to HUNT monsters in a game called Monster Hunter?!?

t. MH purists

'purists' on here are just elitists

>>380266181
>Modern Capcom trying to appeal to western audience
Has DmC taught you nothing?