>Paid mods 1.0 >Loads of people defending it on /v/ >Paid

>>380124162

Fuck off plebian scum. Only 500 Bethesda FunBux for backpacks???????? Talk about a steal!!!

/v/ can never be pleased

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>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on /v/

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>>380124162
>horse armor

>>380124162
Fucking no one was defending it here you retard.

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>>380124162
>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on /v/

>>380124162
>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on /v
Do you seriously expect me to sit here and listen to your newfag opinion?

>>380124162
>1.0 defending
>when valve had to cancel the idea due to the backlash
There was an attempt.

>>380124162

Absolutely fucking no one wants paid mods. They didn't want it when Valve tried, and when they put out that announcement saying they'd try it again later people were still angry. If you want to support a creator donate to them directly for fuck's sake.

>>380124162

you're not buying mods you're buying credits which you can just so happen to buy mods with

>>380124162
its going to flop really really hard

Everymod on nexus is STILL free

>>380126663
Thats literally the same thing

>>380124162
no one ever defended this shit other than nexus shills trying to get people to buy their mods that use copyrighted content.

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>>380126845
It's not going to flop. It's going to be a marketplace full of hats and horse armor for $1-5 each and it will be very profitable.

>>380126663
have they said you can buy other stuff with the credits? like new music?

>>380127047
It's worse. Credits don't let you buy an exact amount, and you don't get your money back once you spend any of it on credits.

>>380124162
You weren't herewhen valve did that shit it seems, everybody hated that bullshit.

>>380127332
I'm surprised we're not buying chests and paying credits to buy lockpicks with a chance that ith will open

>>380124162
There's literally nothing wrong with this, capitalism means that people putting the effort into their work have the right to be compensated, you're not entitled to anything for free, this is how capitalism works. Don't like it? Go back to China you commie bastard because you don't deserve freedom.

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>>380127714
Fuck off Pete Hines

>>380124162
Paid mods are great unironically and only brazillian poorfags complained. It's the optimum way to encourage new modders by including a monetary incentive, it's basic economics.

>>380127714
You're fucking retarded

mods for games have been working fine without any compensation of any sort for over 25 years because the mod makers did it out of hobby and enjoyment rather than for profit.

>>380124162
There were literally 10 contrarian shitposters defending it.

>>380124162
>implying anyone defended that shit the first time
it was retarded then and it's retarded now

>>380127714
But we are entitled to freedom of speech which is exactly what is happening in this thread you damn commie

>>380124162
I was against it on both counts.

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Here comes the faggots and shills trying to make shit up as if people don't remember what actually happened.
People all over the fucking internet complained about the paid mods, the Steam forums went insade with complaints and emails.
Steam gave a public apology for it and said they would take better care of whatever comes up next so that would not repeat.
Stop fucking spreading these stupid lies.

>>380125753
>>380126062
>>380126285
>>380126562
Nice try Bethesda, you can fuck off now.

>>380127878
Modders should be encouraged by their love for their game not fucking money.
This kind of shit will always lead to jewish tactics

>>380125924
>mfw people think this isn't on purpose

>>380124162

>Mods offered will work together
>Which means there can never be any mods that make heavy use of scripts or try to modify the same content (like combat)

It's not like based nippon modders that actually put out the quality armors are going to be participating, so I guess they are just expecting to lock down the console mod market.

Actually, that could be a positive for it - it would mean modders wouldn't have idiots with consoles spamming them when someone else ports their mod to the console mod download place without checking for compatibility.

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UHHHH

GUYS

IT'S NOT PAID MODS OKAY

>>380124162
No one defended paid mods ever, that's the reason Valve dropped them
Here's your (You) you massive faggot.

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>>380124162
>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on /v/

>>380128869
>its not paid mods
>but its paid mods

>>Loads of people defending it on /v/
Yea, so many people defended it that Valve realized it was a bad idea after three days of introducing it

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>Loads of people defending it on /v/
what????

>>380128530
Fuck off retard.
Sage

>>380124162
You're right but most people are STILL in denial about how terrible Valve has become

>>380128869
It's just them saying that these "mods" are going to be polished up (and by Bethesda standards that means shit) and that you can still use free mods.
TL;DR: no you moron those are still paid mods

>>380129348
There are people still in denial?

>>380129349
he was being sarcastic

AT FIRST I WAS SKEPTICAL

>>380128710
>monetary incentives don't work lmao you should just do it for the art dude

dumb commie

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>>380128869
>SEE GUYS YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE MODS THEMSELVES BUT FOR E-CURRENCY TO BUY THE MODS WITH SO YOU'RE NOT TECHNICALLY PAYING FOR THE MODS
>mfw

>>380129623
You're fucking retarded

paid mods objectively made mods WORSE because people were churning out literal dogshit for pennies on the dollar

>>380127878
>Steam greenlight and Early Access are great unironically and only brazillian poorfags complained. It's the otpimum way to encourage new game devs by including a monetary incentive, it's basic economics.

>>380125924
>we really care about the modding community
>but guys, FUCK YOU
>and guys? FUCK YOU AGAIN
what were they thinking?

>>380124162
At first I was a bit skeptical about the whole Creation Club announcement but when I read through their official website, it seems like this is a way for them to try and improve mods and make them better.

They will have quality control, collaboration between the game devs and the mod authors and a bunch of other procedures and guidelines.

I can't wait for the exciting new mods that will come out from this system. Its gonna bring polish and better integration for mods as a whole.

I am really excited.

>>380129623
Mods are free. If you want to get paid, make your own game. Simple. In fact, we're getting into hippie commie territory with these faggots piggybacking off of successful people's work.

>>380129994
you're fucking retarded

>>380129623
>do something that wasn't requested for you to do
>NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY ME FOR IT
that's called self-entitlement

Literally no sane person was defending it the first time around.

>>380128869
If you want to give an incentive to get people to do mods for your game then there's two options that have worked in the past.
>Mod spotlight - literally pick a mod the dev-team really likes and show it off on the menu of the game
>Use your own fucking money - like a modder? Give them a fucking job, or pay them out of your own pocket.

Most mod devs have a little patreon/donation button anyway these days. Why the fuck would anybody go through the hassle of paying a third party too for "curating"?

>>380130210
It's alright kid, maybe one day you'll actually do something with your life instead of trying to piggy back off of a developer's game. Hey, maybe you can try to make a Nintendo ripoff like a good little cuckold next!

>>380129623
Have you ever heard about SureAI ? These guys made two total conversions: Nehrim (for Oblivion) and Enderal (for Skyrim). These mods are professional tier level created by people that loved the original games and wanted to share it with other people. No money was involved.
TL;DR monetary incentive is worth shit

>>380130524
see
>>380129726

>>380129972
>Quality control by Bethesda
These fucks can't even do QA on their own fucking games.

>>380129726
>paid mods objectively made mods WORSE
Then don't buy them retard. Let the market do it's job
>>380129731
>Steam greenlight and Early Access are great unironically

They are. Some of my favourite games came from Early Access. Again, don't buy them if you don't want them faggot.
>>380129994
>In fact, we're getting into hippie commie territory with these faggots piggybacking off of successful people's work.
Not unless the original copyright holder sanctions it. Or are you against IP law as well?

>>380124162

What I find especially sad is that no one has even blinked an eye at having microtransactions in a full-price game, regardless of their source. I think this is the first iteration of that for Bethesda besides paid mods 1.0.

To the people arguing with Bethesda "fans". Please stop wasting your breath. There are literally paid Bethesda astroturfing on 4chan right now.

>waah Im poor
>waah why do I have to support people who make stuff I enjoy
>Im entitled for it

Fuck off kids and get a job. Mods are dirt cheap and those devs need the money

>>380129972
Or they could just not lock all that information behind the creation club? They could just say "if you want to mod our games, here's the basics/creation kit, and an email you can use if you have any questions about how things work."

The exciting new mods will still be exciting new mods that work well regardless of whether or not this shit exists. And the trashy porn mods probably aren't in-depth enough to need it. Only one modder needs to be in the creation club making content it seems, and they could just filter tutorials/help people outside it anyway.

>>380130680
>underageb& is so retarded he quotes me when I'm the one calling people faggots for wanting paid mods.
Good god. I literally cannot imagine /v/ getting any worse.

>>380131007
Eh, I have nothing else to do right now.

>>380129972
Are you fucking retarded? they cant fucking fix the bugs in their own fucking games and you believe they are going to sit and waste time and money helping random programes learning on the go? fucking denial dude, this is a quick bucks grav nothing more, just as it was with valve before.

>>380131141
>quotes me
its not you, its me faggot

>>380129972
>same copy and paste every thread

>>380128869
>It's not paid mods
>You just have to pay us for credits so you can pay for your mods
>No, I s-s-swear. It's t-t-t-totally not paid m-m-mods

>>380131079
Modders create stuff because they love the game not because they want to be paid you Bethesda-drone

>>380131007

I'm not even sure it's astroturfing, I think there are just that many people out there trolling for (you)s

>>380129349
Hilarious. They are acting as if they will give a better modding "experience"... oh but for a fee.

Someone post Gaben being BTFO when he said "Money is used to guide the industry" when talking about paid mods.

>>380129994
>someone makes a product
>someone sees it and makes it better and people buy it


literally capitalism. the draconian "u cant maek mony off orther people's "INTELCUTALS" property is socialist dogshit.

>>380124162
Nobody was defending it on /v/ the first time around, I wish this meme would die.

>>380131589
Except it didn't. Steam was ridden with nothing but shit mods, stolen shit and scams galore

There is no place for paid mods anywhere

>>380131007
you should still argue with them, so random normies dont think 'oh the hive mind is cool with it'. Never EVER just 'ignore' shills and hope they go away. They literally want you to ignore them so they can create a narrative to their own liking.

>>380130418

Hardly anyone uses those Patreon things or donation buttons. Some guy had 470,000 downloads and a lifetime donation amount of like 60 pounds. Gamers don't pay for shit.

>>380131367
That's one of the worst criticisms being thrown out. Last time it was literally "pull your mod off nexus and charge for it on the workshop" making it literally pay for shit that used to be free. Now its "nobody will ever mod for free again."

Can't wait to pirate all these mods.

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>>380125924
>>380128742

>>380131971
Do you really think modders do it for money ?

>>380131589
is that why any mods made on the store have to be entirely original and cannot build off of anything that someone else in the community has made?

>>380132301
they sure as hell haven't for 25 years

If you want to charge someone for something you should be able to
If you want to charge someone for something that was previously free fuck you that's scummy

the gray area comes in when criticism of a shit product is easily silenced, and the potential for stealing someone else's free mod, and then charging for it is already so high

The irony is, bethesda's mod store is going to have to be tightly moderated to prevent the above two.
Possibly so much so that they lose money on it

>>380132301

I don't give what a fuck they do it for, if they want to make money then it's none of my fucking business.

>>380124162
Their newest game is F4, and the Skyrim fad is wearing off.
No reason to give a damn anymore, but oh well i don't like it either.

>>380132397
>The irony is, bethesda's mod store is going to have to be tightly moderated to prevent the above two.
doubtful I think they underestimate how easy it is to steal mods

>>380125924
meme magic is real guys

>>380124162
>Loads of people defending it on /v/
Want to know how we know you weren't here for that?

>>380132397
We are talking about Bethesda here. These incompetent fucks can't even do their games properly. How can anyone expect them to manage QA on an even bigger scale ?

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>>380128530
You can shut up now

>>380132348
>>380131589

listen faggots, i dont agree with paid mods but I also dont agree with you dipshits labeling everything as communism. Stop using words you dont understand.

>>380132548
Have you seen the shit with Valve paid mods ? (half-assed stolen shit)
This will happen to Bethesda as well if this becomes a reality.

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See that mod over there?....

You can buy it.

>>380132632
>>380132753
My point, the unfortunate side is that even if it "fails" bethesda is still going to make money off of stolen mods

>>380133085
Shut up Todd member. Real discussion here

>>380132397
>tightly moderated
We'll see. I imagine as time goes on, especially when they release they next Gamebryo game that it will be almost a completely open market. The only things that will be moderated will be items infringing on other corporate licenses. People that steal free mods and put them up for pay will go unnoticed until a massive shitstink can happen on social media.

It's not unlike google play store at the moment. Many people just rip and modify APKs and throw them back up onto google and see the original creator get nothing, having to go through several hoops to even get to talk to a human representative from google to look into it.

This is just ripe for shady central.

And, as always, the real modders will put their stuff in for free while the people that spend 3 hours to model a dragon dildo will charge for it.

How's this any different from before? How did that affect anything? It didn't. Neither will this.

>>380133165
When has Bethesda ever been a not "fuck you gamer" company ?

>>380129726
fucking true
and half the paid mods that came out used stolen work from other modders

>>380133045

I saw what happened with Valve paid mods and I couldn't give less of a shit. I saw the owner of the Nexus show up, cry about how "mods are meant to be free, go to NexusMods.com for mods!" so he could keep his revenue bullshit.

That shit'll get worked out. Stop fucking with other people's money over "my free mods" that you probably don't even make.

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>>380133207
you know what goes good with discussion?

Season passes... and paid mods..

>>380132301
>Some guy had 470,000 downloads and a lifetime donation amount of like 60 pounds
he'd probably have made less if people had to pay for the mod

>>380132998
i never called it communism, i was just pointing out the irony of you saying
>the draconian "u cant maek mony off orther people's "INTELCUTALS" property is socialist dogshit.
when that is exactly what bethesda is doing

>>380133717
Fuck. Off.

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Controversy? What controversy? All I see a great service curated by Bethesda developers to bring only the highest quality mods through our I mean their highly regarded Q&A department for a modest fee, and to be honest? If the mod makers, ehrm excuse me, content creators, want a piece of our pie, then perhaps they should make their own game? It's a privilege to have your content in their game. Don't push your luck. Gamer entitlement is reaching an all time toxicity.

>>380134013
this never gets old
good shit

>>380128869
I was optimistic when they first mentioned points. I was thinking it was like in ubisoft games where you could get some extra skins by earning achievements. Then i got on the website and saw this. Is anyone even surprised? Hell i was just wondering the other day when they were going to try and pull the paid mod shit again.

>>380134013
Atleast that's some meaningful toddposting

>>380133864
Hello stranger. Do you know what day it is? Time to sign up for your place in Vault 111.
Yes you have been selected to be the very fist guest in our new luxurious vault!
Please purchase a few mods before finishing your application


>All terms and conditions subject to change without notice. Side effects may include rectal hemorrhaging and mild death.

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>>380134013
/thread

Afteral bethesda games don't need "content creators" to stand on their own. Just look at all the amazing extra services we provide such as free unofficial patches, free DLC's such as Wyrmstooth Falskaar and Grey Cowl of Nocturnal, and amazing Ui overhauls such as SKUI. All provided free by Bethedsa and ONLY Bethesda.

Should I play Skyrim? I got it when it came out but didn't play much.

>>380135876
This stuff is more of a full expansion than a 5$ horse armor mod.

>>380136720
absolutely

>>380136720
Do you like RPGs ? If so, then no, don't play it.

Instead of spending the last year or so actually contacting highly praised modders and hiring them to produce quality DLC
Todd decided to re-launch Paid Mods: $5 Horse Anus Armor DLC
and he was such a pussy he sent some other Bethesda flunky out on-stage to do it

>genious

>>380137012
What do you expect from the guy that removed everything from the new titles that made the original game series good ?

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>>380137012
>$5 Horse Anus Armor DLC


Can i get that in 4K?

Also, what were you expceting? Bethesda hasn't done original shit since..... well.... ever. Their formula has been the exact same thing for the past 15 years.
>Buy existing IP
>"Streamline"
>Launch game
>Make next iteration
>"Streamline"
>Launch game
>Make next iteration
>"Streamline"
>Launch game

How many times have the re-released Skyrim?
3? 4?

>>380137012
we wouldn't be making this fuss if he did this
just go contract some good mod makers to work on assets for DLC, do the QA (lol) for them and then sell it for $10-20