IT'S TIME TO FUCKING SETTLE THIS SHIT Personafags gather,

>>380050014
fuck you, Nanashi solos everyone

>>380050014
Is probably that guy with the edgy tattoos

Hearts on boobs is my fetish, so I'll go with that.

>>380050189
no, fuck you, smt guys do not apply here

>>380050014
Makoto > Joker > Yu > Tatsuya > Maya > Pierce Eyed

>>380050014

We've been over this. Tatsuya and Apollo can stop time and wreck people before their perception returns.

>>380050563
Makoto > Tatsuya > Joker > Yu > Maya > Pierce Eyed

ftfy

Universe Arcana>Rest

>>380050720
Makoto has the Universe arcana and he can do anything, nothing is out of his reach, it's too op but that's how it is

>>380050014
I'm tempted to say it's Minato/Makoto (whichever name you prefer) considering what he did at the end of his game.

>>380050742

>Gain reality's debug mode
>Choose to become a door

Minato was not a clever man.

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Tatsuya can stop time, so nu-personafags BTFO

Minato > Joker > Tatsuya > Yu > Earring > Maya

>>380050014
Minato has the most true power, miracles and all that, but is frail.

Tatsuya is the best mage.

Maya is average but not shit at much of anything.

Yu is most stronk.

Joker is the most clever.

Earring is the coolest.

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>>380051057
It's not like he had that much choice, if he erased the concept of death everything would cease to exist because of the huge imbalance that would bring.

Matchmaking fucked him hard

OP is a fagggot

>>380050014
Minato, but Tatsuyacucks will deny it every single time

>>380051351

Naoya is World of DEX

>>380050014
Yu would win a fist fight, Minato would destroy them all in a dick sucking contest, Joker wins the eating contest, Tatsuya wins in a race, Maya would win in arts and crafts, and Earring win the game of charades.

>>380051929
Yu would win in a dick sucking contest, since he is sexually confused

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>>380050014
With or without persona? In normal brawl Joker beat them all

every MC 3 and afterwards could 3 V 1 against any of the protags from 1 or 2 and lose.

>>380052036
Minato knows how to pleasure everyone, did you not play the game! His skill is literally suck dick and kiss ass.

>>380051698
>implying becoming a dead door is more impressive than stopping the flow of time by controlling space and time

>>380052118
1 and 2 MC's need their friends to perform fusion spells while Door-kun can do them on his own

>>380052180
That's because there was literally no other way to win, meanwhile IS tatsuya was cucked and was left in the shittiest timeline

>>380050014
>IT'S TIME TO FUCKING SETTLE THIS SHIT

spoiler: its not going to get settled

>>380051929
>Yu would win a fist fight
Not when P3 is the only one who canonically can use fist weapons.

>>380053024
That's because he's too weak to just use his FISTS

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>>380050014

>>380050014
If Door-kun is so strong, how come he's fucking dead forever?
Tatsuya wins.

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>>380052083
Minatos probably at the bottom in a normal fight

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How would we rate Ultimate Persona's?
Sataneal takes no.1 but he's pretty much the equivalent of a persona spirit bomb.

>>380054978
Tatsuya is in a fucking desolated timeline, eternal suffering cuck

>>380055912
Beats being fucking dead.

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>>380055672
Still can't stop time like Apollo

>>380056195
Still constantly saving the world, One Tatsuya is suffering without any purpose, and the other is a policeman

Joker, because his game is the only one that's decent

It's funny how any SMT protagonist could solo every Persona protagonist

>>380055291
He immediately becomes top member of whichever sports club you join, and even gets second place in whatever regional summer competition. Despite his disposition, Door can probably handle himself pretty well in a normal fight.

>>380057425
It's funnier how nobody cares about SMT

>>380052083
P1MC is Emperor Arcana with Strength as his secondary, he's probably pretty strong physically

Yu would dumpster everyone of those sissies in a physical fight without personas

>>380058340
What were the other MCs Arcanas? Minato and Yu were Fool I think but did Joker even get one?

>>380058487
From P3-5 it's Fool

P1 is Emperor, Tatsuya is Sun and Maya is Moon

>>380058475
Yu is a faggot who lost to even bigger faggot Yosuke

>>380050014
Tatsuya, being the only one who regularly got into fist fights

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>>380057151

>>380058930
Not the gay Joker.

>>380058694
Why would someone restrict himself to a fist fight when you can use a fucking persona?
>>380058475
Yu is a fag and a crossdresser, and he likes it

>>380059025
>Yu is a fag
Yu is a crossdresser, but so manly he can turn girls into lesbians by crossdressing.

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>>380059006

>>380059524
He can also romance Yosuke, so he is also a fag

>>380059025
The majority of them can't use their personas outside of certain fantasy vacuums anyway.

>the MCs that can use their persona at any time vs the MCs that can only use their persona while in a tv or during some magical hour that doesn't exist

>>380059582
>mentally unstable
>only like his teacher and Jun

He's also a fag. Worse even

>>380056351
>One Tatsuya is suffering without any purpose

Rebuilding what's left of Sumaru City isn't exactly suffering without a purpose.

>>380059764
They can use it outside of that hour too, how do you think Mitsuru performs executions?

>>380059884
The majority got moved to EP universe though. Only Tatsuya can't remain since Nyarly curse him

>>380059884
His timeline is unimportant

>>380052303
1 can't even do fusion spells.

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>>380050014
Nobody cares about your spinoff

>Minato has the universe arcana

Tatsuya is a universe buster

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>>380060197
That's some not-furious dancing

>>380060481
Minato can literally do anything he wants man, The universe arcana is overpowered

>>380060481
P3fags BTFO.

>>380060634
So he wanted to become door? Weird fetish but I won't judge.

>>380060634
Except for actually killing Nyx, aparently. I guess Nyx must be stronger than Nyarly and the others though, since she is an ayy lmao and doesn't come from the sea of the soul

1 entered the the Sea of Souls with maki and met her other selves, I think P2 EP protags also visited that place and got to know about the Abyss where it comes that theory that Sudou fell there and became the Reaper from P3.

>>380059910
Hackshino forgot his own lore.

>>380059687
I was wondering about this, but can P3/ P4 characters summon outside of their respective alternate world?

Assuming P5 can't, and P1/ P2 can.

>>380060978
>>380061076
Able to do anything, but becoming a seal that stops everyone from reaching nyx was the only way life in earth could go on normally. There was no other choice.

Igor said that he could be able to defeat the one that cannot be defeated, but instead he made himself a seal, I guess Nyx is an entity whose existance is needed

>>380061076
Nyx is the embodiment of death, my dude. As long as there's something alive, it's gonna be basically unbeatable.

>>380061246

P5 can as per True Ending (though the real world was fucked by Yaldy when they did it).
3 apparently can but unconfirmed. 4 are the least likely to.

>>380061462
This, defeating Nyx would be defeating the embodiment of death, and taking death away from the world would throw everything into fucking chaos

>>380061456
>Nyx is an entity whose existance is needed
Just like Nyarly and Phil. Remove/somehow kill one and humanity is fucked beyond repair. Although one say that humanity without darkness would be good despite all advancement we made through bad shit as we can see in history

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>Personafags can't even be bothered to check to official MegaTen power-level list

>>380061246

P3 says that Personas can be summoned without aid of an Evoker but it's rare as hell and no one in SEES can

P4's are tied directly to the fog world and P5's to the metaverse.

>>380061743
Minato would've been able to stop everyone from wishing the fall, but that would fuck over the bet that Phil and Nyarly made, as this would made them achieve enlightment instantly by the hand of one person, but who knows

>>380061743
Nyarly and Phil can't be removed though, only their influence towards the material world can be, which is why Phil is weakened after making an entirely new universe. Nyarly at the end of EP is the same

Nyx's influence is based entirely on Erebus. She can't be assed to do shit without anyone asking her

>>380061994
Mitsuru does in the flashback in P3: The answer I think.

>>380061979

>Yu not in normalfag
>Joker in Karma

What?

>>380062325
Joker kind of has a hard life before the event of P5 (criminal record and something about a dysfunctional family)

>>380050014
Earring was... earring.

Tatsuya is a cool protag and punched a lot of guys.

Maya was cute I guess.

Makoto/Minato is just best overall.

Yu was eh, his jokes/puns were cool.

Joker a handsome, smart and stylish.

>>380062325
Yu is Chad Thundercock incarnate.

Joker got fucked over by Shido and that caused all the events of P5 to happen. Hence, "karma's a bitch"

>>380056276
I don't know if beings like yaldi and Satanael are bound by shit like space-time. It's not like Satanael was just waiting in the sky above them. He came as he was called.

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Tatsuya defeated Nyaralthotep who is unkillable mean while Door cuck can't even beat a weaker Nyx without becoming a door

Leave all of the Persona MCs to me

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>>380061994
>P5's to the metaverse.
They tied to cognition. From what Morgana said in the ending, if demons suddenly pop out in "real" world they would be able to summon personas to fight them

>>380061994
Apparently you need to be in danger for your persona to aid you.

The reason SEES uses Evokers is to instantly make the user feel in danger and to summon their Personas in consequence, I guess that's how it is at least, so I'm pretty sure it's not tied to the Dark Hour, the Dark Hour can only be experienced normally by Persona users, not the other way around

>>380063302
Nyx is literally death faggot, you can't get stronger than that

>>380061994
>P3 says that Personas can be summoned without aid of an Evoker but it's rare as hell and no one in SEES can

I mean, yeah. That's how the guys in 4 and 5 get access, P3 dudes just had technology to bypass the actual awakening. Using it in the real world is different though.

>>380063302
Nyarly's just banished like Nyx was only sealed away. You can't stop negative emotions and death

>>380063553
Easy
https://streamable.com/7037d

Nyaralthotep destroys the Universe with a wave of his hand.

Leave Nyx to him

>>380063746
You can destroy the universe, but you can't destroy a concept like death, he wouldn't be able to destroy Nyx

>>380062653
>Makoto/Minato is just best overall.

He wasn't even the best MC in his own damn game.

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>>380064049
Nyx would die along with the Universe and humanity. Nyaralthotep can kill it. It's just a shitty alien. leave it to me

>>380064049
P3 Nyx is giant ayy lmao. Crushing into Earth put it to sleep for millions of years

>>380063553
Except everything that can't die, like a certain YHVH

>>380064129
Who are you talking about?

>>380063746
Which requires Philemon to be a total retard and thinking Nyarlathotep the collective evil to play fair

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>>380064474
Nyaralthotep can warp reality. He could just reality warp Nyx away.

nyx is a cuck

leave them to me

>>380064359
>>380064389
>>380064395
So Nyx is a being outside of reality, and it's thanks to her that the collective subconsciousness even exists, it can't be killed

>>380064846
He can't warp it because Nyx exists outside of reality, accept it, He can't kill Nyx

>>380064846
Nyx is outside reality. Nyarly can remove and kill Erebus, thereby making Nyx a non-factor, but he can't kill Nyx

>>380064846
>reality-warp the concept and embodiment of Death away
>humanity is fubar because lolmementomori
>no more aggressive collective unconscious
>no more gnarly nyarly

Nice work, fuckface.

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>>380057151
The one with the shittiest story alongside P4
>Decent
kek.

>>380065852
P5 has better story and characters than P1

>>380065852
P3's story is definitely shittier than P4 and P5.

>>380066197
>being a retard

>>380066197
>B-B-BBUT PERSONA 3

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>>380065846
He destroyed the Universe just fine and was still alive.

nice try

leave nyx to me

>>380067093
That's because he didn't destroy Nyx when he destroyed the Universe faggot

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>>380064880
Is this from that shitty guidebook that The Answer retconned?

Either way Nyaralthotep is the bigger threat, Nyx is fucking useless without Erebus.

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>>380067439
Nyx didn't even exist in P2 cuck.

>>380067490
Nyx is an indestructible bomb waiting to be triggered. Nyarly is like Erebus and Yaldy, but stronger, more encompassing and much smarter

>>380067647
It did you fucking faggot, it's been there from the beggining

>>380066161
If a better story is having the worst final boss in the franchise alongside the worst plot twist [/spoiler]Goro being buttmad against his father and been crazy as shit then okay. Fucking Tatsuya Sudou had more reason to be crazy than that guy.

>>380060197
SMT is a spinoff too you fuck. Persona is a spinoff of a spinoff that overshadows the spinoff it spins off of, get over it already.

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>>380067913
Nyaralathotep and Philemon both exist out side of reality you cuck.

And Nyaralthotep is nothing like shitty Erebus

They have complete control over the collective unconsciousness Erebus and Yaldy don't

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>>380068267
This. Everyone knows Nakajima is the best MC. Can any SMT and Persona MC codes a demon summoning program with fucking Pascal?

>>380068267
SMT overshadowed the games it spun off too, the franchise's history is weird.

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>want to play P4G
>don't own a vita
>have no interest in buying a vita for one gamr
fuck my life

>>380068827
henkaku pstv
>>378983141

I really want to go play P1 and 2 but I've heard they aged horribly am I better off just reading a synopsis about them on wikipedia
Please no spoilers

>>380068386
The collective subconsciousness, the ones that Nyara and Phil have control over, was literally created to protect humanity from Nyx, that should give you a clue of what entity is stronger

>>380069027
Read the p1 manga and watch the cutscenes on youtube. Play P2.

Using the autism wiki, known as VSbattles, whoever the Persona 2 protagonist is is the strongest, with Joker coming in second.

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>>380069121
Bullshit, cite your source anon. If its that shitty artbook/guidebook that got retconned I will laugh at you.

All my shit is from the games.

>>380069379
It got retconned? by who? and how

I didn't know of this

>>380068995
$200 is just too steep.
I had no clue about the new homebrew though, I'll have to cop later

>P3fags still using no limits fallacy everytime it comes to powerlevels

Door and Nyx are weak shit. Tatsuya and Joker beat them no problem.

>>380069525
By The Answer and it contradicts every other purseowner game. It coming from a shitty artbook makes it even less credible.

So which team without their MC is the strongest?

>>380070248
Did the answer establish something that overwrites the book's lore about Nyx? I'm looking for it but I can't find it
>>380070291
That would be either the teams from P1 and P2, since they're all wild card users to some extent

>>380070291
P1 crew. Mark and his Funky Bunch would curb stomp everyone

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>>380050014
Do you even need to ask?

>>380070291
outside p1 and 2, I'd say p4

>>380069610
PSTV is $60. The game is still 30 though. p weak.