This was the best thing at E3 so far, and it was a minute an

Looks great. I sure hope the roster is not bloated and the characters all feel unique.

>>380005502
>closed beta
Can i sign up?

This looks insaiyan

>>380006842
They haven't released details on how to get in yet. I'm guessing it'll be a pre-order thing like some other fighting games have been doing.

>>380006819
Considering who's making it, I think they'll be able to do that. Guilty Gear characters tend to feel very different from one another. I also don't expect too massive a roster. I'd guess somewhere around 25-30 characters.

>>380005502
If there is a beta I hope it's a pre-order thing

>>380005502
>This was the best thing at E3 so far

Ayup, pretty much. I'm fine with that, considering that I haven't played a 2D fighter since MvC3 left a bad taste in my mouth.

Anthem piqued my interest too, because I'm a moron who loves looter shooters like Destiny, but that one's going to be downgraded to hell and back by the time it releases.

>>380007119
Fuck you.

>>380005502
Why does every fucking ASW game looks like it's running at 15fps? That shit is awful.

Marvel vs Capcom looks much better.

>>380007376
The game's going to be on the show floor, so hopefully someone will be able to get that info.

>>380007404
Anthem looked neat, but I'm going to be very cautious on that one. The moment they said it was focusing on co-op my interest in it took a hit. I don't want to play my fucking exploration games with someone else talking to me. I just want to get comfy and explore. Something Xenoblade Chronicles X actually did extremely well.

>>380008167
It's the hitstop. Which is actually very important from a gameplay perspective. They could animate the characters more fluidly, but they put large amounts of hitstop for their gameplay style.

They also tend to look way better when you're actually playing than when you watch a video.

>>380008451
>They also tend to look way better when you're actually playing than when you watch a video.
No. It looks terrible.

>>380007283
>all from scratch
>25-30
Considering Persona 4 Arena, expect 12-15

>>380008847
they're going to get a bigger budget for fucking dbz

>>380008994
>popular IP means bigger budget means better game!
refer to the recent Jojo games. Also bigger budget doesn't mean a 30 size roster when it took Blazblue a decade to get there

>>380008547
It's supposed to be a visual cue for a confirmed hit. Actually really important with as much horseshit going on at all times. Also it makes the impact all the more delicious when it lingers like that.

>We lived to see big budget competitively viable fighting games for both DBZ and Pokemon

feels good desu, if only people actually fucking cared about pokken

>>380010567
It'll have a second chance with the Switch version. But if it doesn't pick up a scene there, then that'll be the end of it, most likely.

>>380010962
The competitive scene is still alive, actually, as is the online matchmaking playerbase.

The issue is less the actual amount of people playing it and moreso the lack of interest from the general public eye. Nobody talks about it on fourms or makes video content or watches streams.

>>380008847

Sadly this.
Which makes me think Broly probably won't get in.
Wich makes me sad.

>>380012247
>broly
>not being in a dbz game

fat fucking chance, they even shoed him into that saiyan saga only game

>>380012247
Honestly I would expect Broly. He's absurdly popular, and they put him in everything. He was even in fucking Attack of the Saiyans, a game that only went up to the Vegeta fight.

>>380012419
>>380012626

I hope you guys are right.

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>>380008847

No Roshi, no buy.

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>>380012783
He will definitely be there.

But his costume might look a little different.

>>380009224
Except it's not only when a hit is confirmed. The game is jolting 100% of the time.

>>380005502
microsoft won so hard with this it's not even funny

Live gameplay today at 6am est

http://sp.live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv299638923

>>380016289
In an hour?

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Goku + frieza best combo. don't know who the third will be tho

You idiots are going to get a roster similar to Super DBZ, that means the main good/bad guys and 2 or 3 unexpected ones.
That means no movie shit, no pre saiyan saga, no GT shit, no Super.
Beerus, Blue Goku/Vegeta, Golden Frieza... expect them, even if they are from movies, those 2 movies were canon even before DB SUper.

>>380018590

Golden freezer is in the trailer though.

>>380018590
>>380018730
kek

>>380018730
I know, that's why Beerus and Blue Goku/Vegeta are going to be part of the roster too.
>>380018801
Read again.

>>380018893
that's why i kek

>>380009134
DBZ is infinitely more popular than Jojo.

Arc is an infinitely better studio than Cyberconnect2.

ASB was still a fun game to mess around with friends.

>>380018893

I wonder if they'll take characters slot or if the game will include transformations.

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>>380005502
It's flashy but honestly I'm not impressed with the movements. They're very stiff bordering on flash animation tier. I expected extremely smooth animation like the Storm games so I'm pretty disappointed to be honest.

>>380019252
>They're very stiff bordering on flash animation tier
Like any other ArcSys game.

>>380005502
Holy fuck this looks good.

>2.5d battling (no more world to fly around)
>mvc like 3v3

Will buy. Wish it was coming to switch though.

>>380019493
You'd expect progress though, especially with a popular IP like DB.

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It's not going to do well. They should've gave it to a competent company like Capcom.

I hope Hercule is playable with his Jetpack.

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>>380014556
>microsoft won so hard with this it's not even funny
Won by showing off a multi platform game? Okay then.

>>380019632
autism

>Dragonball game made by arc systems
>Those fucking animations
>All of the subhuman muh OC spics will avoid it
Guys help, there are literally too many video games.

>>380010567
The issue was that the console version was left to die immediately after release while the arcade version got all the new characters. It seemed that it wasn't supposed to be on the Wii U in the first place and was only there because Nintendo wanted some last ditch effort to sell more consoles

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>>380019949

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>these 3 frames attack animations

>>380020127
>Thought it was an MS exclusive because they dont understand conferences. But gets blown out.
>lololololol U fell 4 my bait

Neck yourself.

>>380019252
the animation is like that on purpose to mimic sprite 12fps animation

>It's a "only Freeza's final form is playable" edition

But that's the entire point of the character. Why not just make a Goku that doesn't know the Kamehameha while you're at it?

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>>380005502

Isn't Gokus transformation normal goku > slightly yellow goku -> blue goku -> blue/red goku.

What are those other yellow (super long haired) ones?

>>380020406
Fuck that. We should be advancing not replicating the limitations of era's gone by. If it remains flash tier I'm not going to bother.

>>380019632
Xenoverse felt like a mobile game

>>380019585
>You'd expect progress
Their animation has been about the same level as their Guilty Gear XX days

PS2 era was a long long time ago.

>>380008167
It's a styke thing.
ASW (with their new style of animation) run a stable 60 fps but make some moves animate with a low frame count and it almost makes them "choppy", but it adds to the impact by making them feel more like animation. Sometimes the game even completely drops it's FPS to like sub-20 to achieve this (super startup and instant kills and intros).

>>380019874
Flight is achievable by regular humans.

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After analyzing Arc System Work's history with DB games (Supersonic Warriors and Extreme Butoden), I have a feeling these characters will make it into Dragon Ball FighterZ:

>Goku (Base, Kaioken)
>SSJ Goku (SSJ, SSJ3)
>SSJG Goku (God, Godly SSJ)
>SSJB Goku (Blue, Blue Kaioken)
>Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ)
>SSJ2 Teen Gohan
>Gohan (Base, SSJ)
>Ultimate Gohan
>Vegeta
>SSJ Vegeta
>Majin Vegeta
>SSJB Vegeta
>Future Trunks (Base, SSJ)
>SSJ2 Future Trunks (SSJ2, Rage)
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Bardock
>Raditz
>Nappa
>Ginyu
>Frieza (Final Form, Golden Form)
>18
>Perfect Cell
>Broly
>SSJ3 Gotenks
>Super Vegetto
>Vegetto Blue
>Majin Buu
>Super Buu (Base, Absorptions?)
>Kid Buu
>Beerus
>Cabba (Base, SSJ)
>Frost
>Hit
>Goku Black (Base, Rose)
>Merged Zamasu (Base, Grotesque)

A 36-character roster with everyone important from the Saiyan Saga to the Black Saga. (plus the 2 movie saiyans)

Now if they wanted to add some OG DB, GT, Universal Survival Saga or even some non-listed characters to the mix, I feel like the following could have a chance (maybe as DLC, I dunno how ASW does it):
>Kid Goku
>Master Roshi (Base, Max Power)
>Tien (Base, Four Witches)
>Yamcha
>Tao Pai-Pai
>King Piccolo
>Tournament Chi-Chi
>17
>Dr. Gero
>Cooler (Final Form, Further Form)
>Meta-Cooler
>Mr. Satan
>Videl
>Super Gogeta
>Super Janemba
>Pan
>Uub (Base, Majuub)
>SSJ4 Goku
>SSJ4 Vegeta
>SSJ4 Gogeta
>Baby Vegeta
>Super 17
>Omega Shenron
>SSJ Caulifla (SSJ, SSJ2)
>Berserk Kale
>Ribrianne
>Basil (Base, Buff)
>Lavender
>Bergamo
>Smugpup
>Damon
>Toppo
>Jiren

Anyone of them, but not all since we know how ASW likes to keep a compact roster.

>>380020564
are you trolling

super saiyan 3

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>>380008301
Hope you don't mean Infinite

>>380008547
>Hitstop looks terrible.
Hitstop adds a rythm to the game that makes combos flow more and it adds weight to each hit. /v/ talking about fighting games is pretty fucking funny desu

>>380020586
2d fighters have to be animated like that you retard, the mchanics revolve around knowing what frames you're working with and need clear visual indication.

>>380012845
>talks about Roshi
>posts a picture of Jackie Chun

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>>380020313
>majority of thread ignores the most obvious low effort bait some faggot can make
>this one idiot actually falls for it
>tell him he's an idiot
>he replies back thinking it's the same faggot samefagging

Wew fucking lad, I think you should take your own advice.

>>380020765
Are you high man?
Its arcsys game, first in the new series.
It will have 12, maybe 15 characters at max

>>380019252
>Preferring smoothness over impact.
?
Hitstop and the animation emulation shit makes the game feel and play great though and "smooth" fighting games play like total garbage. That's like wanting thr game to be more like Mortal Kombat and less like GG/Mahvel

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>>380021181
It's possible to do both, you know. Having weight and impact is litterally one of your main goals as an animator, a competent animator could do smooth movement while still having weight.

webm related

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>>380005502

>those low fps
>those laggy animations
>ss3 goku beating golden frieza

>>380020846
Plenty of 2d fighting games manage fine with smoother animations without sacrifice frame readability.

>>380020846
Funny. Last time I played a fighting game was Tekken 7 and that wasn't 12fps with janky animation.

>>380021395
retard

>>380021491
>Tekken.
>Not janky animations.
>Characters contort like nightmarish marionettes and limbs clip into their own bodies.
Nice try.

>>380021523

don't you have a lawn to mow, pedro?

>>380021890
>you
>being a faggot so you can defend/shill the latest DB game

Not surprising.

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>>380005502
>This was the best thing at E3 so far
Wrong.

>>380021491
Tekken is slow af tho? Jabs like like 12f and the game has like 7 frames of input lag compared to the literal 0 in GG.

>>380022105
Yet it still looks smoother than this new DB.

>>380005502
I admit their games look fucking cool
But fucking re-releases kill my hype
If only they didn't release the same game over and over again I would play the shit out of it

>>380022203
Yeah, so snooth you're literally playing 10f+ in lag behind GG.

>>380022468
Doesn't change the fact that DB looks like it's flash animated though anon. Even Xenoverse 2 looked smoother.

>>380022576
But I care about how it plays, and I like how it looks, anon.

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Anyone else watching this? Stream quality is pretty garbage

>>380022576
you know absolutely nothing about animation and should never be in charge of video games

>>380022718
usual niconico quality

>>380022718
currently watching it
nothing interesting at the moment

>>380022649
Good for you? doesn't mean you can outright pretend shit isn't flash tier animation when it's anything but smooth.

>>380022793
>animation isn't smooth
>say it isn't smooth
>some people bitch out because you're not allowed to say anything bat about the new DB game

Huh.

>>380022895
finally gotten to the game

>>380022908
Have you ever played GG anon? No, clearly. Please find someone who's played it and ask them what it plays like. See if any of them complain about the animation or the game not feeling smooth. The truth is the games are buttery af and you just don't know fuck all about fightan.

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only 6 characters in this demo

>>380022908
The fact that you're conflating "flash tier" with frame rate means you shouldn't be talking about animation.

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>>380020564
Is this bait or have you really been under a rock this whole time?

Saiyan forms vary wildly depending on appearance, execution and attributes:

>Oozaru: Big ass ape
>False SSJ: the original SSJ before it was retconned
>Super Saiyan: spiky yellow hair
>Ascended SSJ: a buffer SSJ
>Ultra SSJ: an even buffer SSJ, makes user slow
>Full Power SSJ: SSJ without the stamina drain
>A/C-Type SSJ: mutated SSJ form, somewhat stronger
>Legendary SSJ: super buff A/C-type SSJ, eyes lack irises
>Super Kaioken: SSJ multiplied by Kaioken
>Spirit Bomb SSJ: SSJ multiplied by the Spirit Bomb
>SSJ2: spikier yellow hair, lightning aura
>Ascended SSJ2: ASSJ but with lightning
>Quake of Fury SSJ2: MUH BULMA
>SSJRage: even spikier hair, godly aura, natural tranformation
>Spriti Bomb SSJRage: SSJRage multiplied by the Spirit Bomb
>SSJ3: long spiky hair, caveman brows, unnatural transformation
>Legendary SSJ3: same as above, but buffer and green
>Super Oozaru: the SSJ form of Oozaru
>Legendary Oozaru: the buff, green Oozaru
>SSJ4: the further evolution of Oozaru
>Legendary SSJ4: the buff form of SSJ4
>Full Power SSJ4: an even buffer form of SSJ4
>SSJGod: red base hair, fiery aura, makes the user skinny and has god ki
>Saiyan Beyond God: it's like Ultimate Gohan but with god ki
>SSJBlue: SSJ multiplied by SSJGod
>Blue Kaioken: SSJBlue multiplied by Kaioken
>SSJRose: SSJBlue but with supreme kai ki
>GOD: a long-haired, green form of SSJBlue
>Tuffle SSJ: SSJ with white hair
>Tuffle SSJ2: spikier hair with yellow armor
>Tuffle SSJ3: even spikier hair, full body armor
>Tuffle Oozaru: Super Oozaru with body armor
>Super Demon: a form demons can use if they have saiyan DNA (like Mira)
>Super Human: a form humans with distant saiyan heritage can use (Dragon Ball Online)

did I see a combo breaker?

>>380023121
Actually I had Revelator for PS4. Key word "had"

>>380023213
Frame rate isn't the issue, the animations themselves are janky. If the framerate sucked we'd be in a whole mess of shit right now and you would STILL defend it.

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>>380005502
Wolfenstein 2 was the best thing so far not some fighting game that will be played by fat bastards with body odour . No one gives a single fuck about fighting games.

>whole thread about muh animations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E
They deliberately use keyframes only so it looks more 2D. Like it or don't. I like it a lot. It looks like anime and it makes moves easier to recognize. The game itself is still 60fps. btw the DBF trailer is only released in 30fps as far as I know

anyway the game looks amazing and like the anime but ever cooler

>>380023376
>Wolfenstein 2
>Best game
More like, best mundane game.

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>>380023138
Judging by the size of the character portraits on this picture, there seems to be enough space for 16 more fighters, bringing the roster to 22 characters.

It could change in the future though, so who knows.

>>380022908
The animation is done the way it is to resemble sprites. It's a stylistic choice made by Arcsys, same as they have done for GG. The characters have weight and fluidity to them. They aren't intended to be animated like MK or Tekken but apparently different choices and artistic styles are bad to you
>>380023361
Now I think you're just using random terminology to shitpost. No one would defend it if it had a shit framerate.

>>380023138

Why is nico nico video so crap ?

>>380021386
If you want a qte cutsceen to have the frames of c.mk then you are a retard and do not play fighting games
Clear visuals over flashy animations

It's a real shame they ruined it with Golden Frieza.

>>380023470
>the whole thread
it's one idiot

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>>380020564
>normal goku
>Kaioken red
>yellow
>yellow and lightning
>yellow and fucked up face and long hair
>red with eye makeup and monkey tail
>normal red god form
> super saiyan god (blue)
> Pink?

pic related best character, shame we only ever get to play as perfect usually

>>380023560
Except I do play fighting games, it's entirely possible to still have readable frame attributes in the animations while having it look smooth.

I wanna play Hercule and beat up Goku at maximum SS transformation

>>380023594
Can't wait for them to announce more Super characters.

>>380023361
I guess you owning Revelator has not much to do with you knowing literally fuckall about fightan, or you're full of shit. Even people that play Tekken/Mahvel/etc wouldn't make the complaints you're making because arc games are smooth af.

>>380023361
The smoothness you're talking about would look horrible at the speeds a Marvel of GG style fighting game go at. There aren't many inbetween frames at that speed, even at 60FPS. Plus if you want to to look like animation you have to hand make things like squash, stretch, and smears (like they did in XRD). You can't just pose to pose animate and call it a day like a game that isn't trying to look like animation.

>>380022649
Then you have no place talking about a fighting game

>that ugly green alt Goku

>>380023560
u mean saved

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>>380023376
Wolfenstein 2 just looked so fun of the mil.

I don't know when AAA games like that stopped appealing to me, but I just don't get them.

>>380023926
*run

leave it to australians

anyone know how they will handle transformations?

I hope it's like "dragon install" style super moves or something but maybe that's wishful thinking. bloated rosters are gay. There should be one of each character.

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>>380019949

>e-exclusives matter!!!

Whoever has the best looking multiplats wins

>>380023762
You don't, actually.
People that play fightan have never done anything but heap praise on GG's look and animation -- they have different complaints about the game usually (okizeme heavy, danger time, overly complex, etc).
You're just some mongolian lithography shitposter that doesn't play fightan.

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>>380018893
> Beerus and Blue Goku/Vegeta are going to be part of the roster too.

Then I want Whis as the Slayer/Rachel Alucard type character. He only loses because the game says his HP is zero. But Whis himself will just laugh it off and start eating some random food, or teleports away because Zen-oh sama called or whatever.

There needs to be one smug character who's way too strong for everyone tk beat and who technically doesn't even lose when the game tells you he did.

>>380012419
>Broly is in Attack of the Saiyans for some reason
>in the original Xenoverse as the only non-canon movie character
>in that one 3DS fighting game as the only non-canon movie character
>in Dragonball Sagas as an unlockable character once you beat the game

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>380018590
But that would be perfect

>>380019632
>you'll have to play all day yo master one character

This is why no one respects women!

>>380024141
I've seen plenty of people that complain about how xr'd's animation looks awful

>>380024092
no, look at the ps2

>>380019632
I am legit mad

Is this gameplay archived somewhere?

HERE WE GO, BOYZ

>>380024574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ii5u9aLtxk

>>380024443
Oh? Anyone worth a fuck? Pls link yhe Twitter or YouTube video from a reputable fightan player complaining about Xrd's animation pls.

GET IN HERE, /v/

http://sp.live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv299638923

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>>380024168

>>380024168
Hopefully this will happen because ArcSys likes this trope

See: Rachel and Elizabeth

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BB died for a new dbz fighter? x.x

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>>380023241
>All those forms
What the hell
I thought the Dragon Ball having a shit ton of stupid forms thing was just a meme. Why are there so many versions of each Saiyan level? And where does the J in SSJ come from?
Jesus Toriyama, you can make your characters stronger without having them transform each time. Super Saiyan was a cool way to power up at first but this just cheapens it now and makes it seem silly.

that reversal final flash

>>380023138
Doesn't seem like the roster will exceed 30 characters. Probably going to add some of the usual like the rest of the Z-fighters, maybe Super Buu and Kid Buu, also various Cell and Frieza forms if we're lucky.

Maybe Beerus as well. That still leaves a few extra slots.

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that fucking stage change

>>380024661
>it needs to be from an e-celeb or it's not valid

cmon nigga

>>380018472
Wut.

>>380012247
Brody fills an important role not really filled by any other major character: the heavy character
I hope they have Super stuff. I was glad to see golden frieza but I need me some Beerus

It looks cool but everyone seems to play very similar

Does seem really marvel like despite obvious GG stuff like dust

FRIEZA GOLDEN INSTALL CONFIRMED
STAGES ARE CHANGEABLE BY SUPERS

>>380025001
>I hope they have Super stuff.
I hope they have less Super stuff.

>>380025094
Anon, please, don't do this. We don't have to be enemies

Lord Beerus wouldn't want that.

>>380024865
SSJ = Super SaiyaJin

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Bacterian confirmed

>transformations don't take slots

FUCK YEAH!

This looks absolutely crazy. I can't fucking wait!

western game websites will demo it today too, right? kinda pointless if I can't understand anything

>>380024414
Why is Broly so popular anyway? He's a big example of my problem with DB. Something is introduced that is cool and exciting but then it just shows up over and over again and just gets annoying.
Also I'm salty that Buu doesn't get this kind of attention and won't even fight in the tournament because we had to have Frieza again for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ii5u9aLtxk


some not third world video quality gameplay

teen gohan is a tiny little nigga. I hope he's not cheap like yoda or something

>>380024974
Let's sum up then:
>"I don't like this animation style! It looks slow!"
>Well, it's a style choice -- also the game plays quickly with no input delay and fast starting moves.
>"Yeah well I STILL don't like it! It's garbage!"
>Well, it's alnost unilaterally agreed upon in the fighting game community that Xrd's anination and gameplay are pretty smooth. People's complaints usually come from other concerns.
>"That's not true! I know people that hate it!"
>Who? Anyone's opinion that's worth mentioning or just vocalizier from an incredibly tiny portion of contrarians that don't really play these games?
>"The person doesn't need to know anything to have a valid complaint!"

>>380024631
So we can confirm doing teleports and successful hits from projectiles takes away meter.

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>>380025020
> DBZ game with installs and crazy ass supers
> DBZ game with Instant kills

Goku's Intant Kill should be the Genki Dama.

>>380024842
Good. BB was trash. Now we have GG and DBF, actual good anime fighters.

>>380024865
Most of them are either non-canon GT stuff, garbage they've added in Super or needlessly sub-categorized and not actually considered separate transformations.

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What if this game has a 6 player mode? IIRC according to an interview with Niitsuma, MvC3 was almost going to have one. Does ArcSys have the balls?

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>>380022718
>Stream

Link please?

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>>380024631
IS THAT FUCKING SUPER KAIOKEN!?

>>380025626
They've only added 2 real forms in Super.
Rose is just with different god ki and Rage is an asspull.

>>380025306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj2I5z8-7nw

>>380025661
It was already posted in the thread

http://sp.live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv299638923

you need an account to watch it though

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>>380025615
are you retarded? dbz is so fucking generic

>>380025702
Isnt this just guard break or something?

>>380025936
that squirrel has autism

WHAT THE FUCK. THESE NIGGAS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE SWITCH AND DBZ

>>380025430
Except, as mentioned, it's possible to have clear frame readability without gimping yourself to like 5fps animations. Look at skullgirlls, it still has super distinctive particular frames for it's animations in a similar regard with clear readbility while also looking smooth.

If you like it, that's fine, i'm not shitting on you for liking it, but I don't and plenty of other people don't also.

>>380023241
>assj2
is this real?

>>380020765
Nice "analyzing", bro

>>380026001
Xenoverse 2 for Switch

i hope its not like the 3ds ones. i dont think it will be but i can already see some similiarities

>>380019585
It's not about progress, it's style

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>>380025936
>complains DBZ is generic
>posts a bunch of generic anime 'waifus'

Good job.

>>380024631
>>380005502

MUH DIIIIIIIIIIIICK

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>>380025979
that's not a fidget spinner :(

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>>380026131
how many waifus are there in dbz?

>>380023361
yo, who invited the retard to this thread?

>>380026006
The only people mentioning it are a couple autists here. Nobody else thinks that.
This is the inverse; it's fine if you don't like it, but you're in the clear minority and people that know a fuckton more than either of us concede it plays smooth and the animations and style are top notch.

>>380026131
I think that's the joke

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>>380025949
He keeps the red aura after doing that and it only ends after Vegeta combos him.

Man all characters look so fun to play. Can't wait to see what they do with piccolo.

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Namek battle

https://youtu.be/oj2I5z8-7nw

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>>380026172
>>380026267
Mai is a shit BB character.
Shitpost with a good one.

>>380009134
>JoJo
>popular

retard

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>>380026520
i main nu13 and litchi, both of which aren't very good waifus

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>Buu seems to be food for jugglers
It's Ganon in Smash all over again
I'll still play him but I don't think I will have an easy time

I can already tell it will be hard to hit anything without dashing nonstop. I don't understand why they don't just make the walkspeed decent. These characters can all fly anyway

are they fixed dashes or runs?

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>>380026465
better quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMqdNnPqOo

I NEED THIS GAME

>>380018590
It's a 3v3 game. Please tell me what 3v3 had a roster smaller than 30 characters, i'll wait. And Skull Girls don't count.

>>380024631
Thank god, characters are just SSJ straight away and supers make them anything bigger, that is great cause having different versions for everyone is fucking retarded.

>>380009134
>JoJofags in charge of being delusional

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>>380026767
i mean... she's so big that she might as well be 2 characters (;

>>380024865
It's confirmed that the game has only one version per character, Golden Frieza is just a skin.
Awesome.

>>380005502
Looks way better than MvCI as long as it doesn't have some of the typical DBZ game mechanics.

>>380026710
knowing arcsys it'll be mostly runs. some characters will have fixed dashes.

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>>380026738
>>380026465
>half of Buu's attacks wiffing over other characters because he's too tall
>gets juggled really easily because massive hitbox

If they had just done GG vs DB the cast would be huge

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>>380027103
gg is already "huge" (;

>>380026006
Yeah, you and your only friend.

>>380020765
Nah. My theorized roster is better and more likely. I figure, new game, roster from scratch, gotta be small. However, they've got Bamco money and a larger IP to work with so the Persona numbers being thrown around don't add up. I'm thinking 16 or 18 base fighters with 10 or so more being added as DLC over the course of the game's lifespan to flesh it out. The developers will want to pick characters that are visually striking, bring unique moves to the table, and have some marketability. Don't expect more than one form of any one character taking any additional spots on the roster. No Form 1 Frieza, Final Form Frieza, and Golden Frieza on my theoretical roster, it will only be Frieza.

Now onto the list. Let's be optimistic and say they go with an earlier proposed 18 starting characters.

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Adult Gohan
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Future Trunks
>Gotenks
>Videl
>Captain Ginyu
>Frieza
>Cell
>Majin Buu
>Android 16
>Android 17
>Android 18
>Broly
>Beerus

That covers the base roster, though earlier I stated Arcsys would likely stay away from alternate forms, I feel as if Teen Gohan and Adult Gohan are different enough characters that he could have a justified two slots. Other characters I feel I need to explain are Videl, Captain Ginyu, Android 16, and Broly. Videl will be there for waifufags and girl power, plus she could build for a pretty neat rushdown character. Captain Ginyu is there as the representation of all of Frieza's henchman in a game otherwise void of them. Android 16 has massive unique moveset potential as the only true robotic character on the roster. And Broly always sneaks his way into these games despite not being canon.

Finally, the DLC. Let's assume optimistically again that 10 DLC characters will make it in.

>Bardock, Whis, Hit, Janemba, Cooler, Vegito, Black, Omega Shenron, Zamasu, and Gogeta

These are all pretty straight forward guesses. All of them are visually distinct, popular, and carry enough unique potential.

>>380026710
Probably for shimmies

>>380027023
Skin implies it's a costume or color scheme. In this game it's an install (power up).

>shitty 2D game
just bring back Budokai

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3v3 is going to be fun
>kid gohan
>krillin
>vegeta
Gonna get the namek band back together

>>380005502
Looks fucking great.

>>380008847
It's 3v3, they'll have to put in at least 20 characters so you won't run into the same characters all the time online.

new gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMqdNnPqOo

>all those people in the stands at the tournament stage

kek they're dead

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>>380027530

I hope they don't hit each other too hard

>>380027530
>shitty 3D game
Where the fuck is the 4D game

>>380027383
Yea just found out

>>380027596
Skullgirls goes up to 3v3 and came out with 8, currently up to 14 characters.

>>380027669
You know what I'm talking about, ArcSys games are boring unless you're one of the 10k autists that actually takes fighting games seriously and decides to play at tourneys.
Dragonball is for fun not for autism.

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this game looks amazing!

>>380027810
then play xenoverse

there have been a million dragonball games already

>>380027876
The interface needs to be cleaned and prettied up some, but it's already looking promising.

>>380027023
Golden Frieza is clearly a transformation and not a skin.

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>>380027810
Then go play some of the other dozen dbz games that aren't this one. Sorry good mechanics are to autism inducing for you.

I will enjoy playing an actual quality dbz fighting game for once.

>>380027023
It uses 3 bars.

>that return to neutral distance after each character death

oh my

>>380005502
That's not Ace Combat 7 though

>>380028352
Isn't it golden frieza?

>>380005502
Just saw the gameplay, it's even better than I thought it could be. Marvel is finished.

>>380027876
> literally Marvel with DB characters

We EVO bois?

>>380024631
HOLY SHIT

has anyone done a normal throw yet?

>>380024631
>that bit where he knocks Cell into a fucking building
How many people do you think Gohan just killed?

>>380026738
God is real, this shit right here is all I've ever wanted... stil can't believe it's happening

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>>380028641
>Buu already looks to be low tier

Oh well. Hopefully when Piccolo is shown off he's high tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXPBjl_cU-0

>>380028517
Considering Capcom's recent track record and how the new Marvel looks like dogshit I think it's decently likely this will be at Evo.

>>380024865
>I thought the Dragon Ball having a shit ton of stupid forms thing was just a meme.
It mostly is. The series makes distinctions between each "form" but everything beyond Super Saiyan 1 are like unstable offshoots. As the series goes on, the characters basically return to only going to SSJ1.

For example, Goku and Vegeta almost exclusively fight in SSJ1. Goku only ever goes up to SSJ3 when he needs a very short burst of extreme power.
Similarly, Gohan doesn't need to go Super Saiyan at all near the end of DBZ, he can use his full strength in his normal state (which is shown as "Potential Unlocked" on that image, not really a transformation).

In DBSuper, God power is a different thing, Goku is technically going Super Saiyan 1 with his newly acquired god ki which makes his hair blue instead.

>>380028808
inb4 it has god tier assist like sentinel

>>380027770
Comparing to a relatively unknown IP with the most well known goddamn
anime of all time. We gonna get at least 20+ base characters niggers.
Yes I'm mad at all you dumbasses saying "16 or 18 base characters". Since
it's Arc I think they won't
go too crazy with DLC like Capcom so I'm really optimistic about the roster. Why?

It's a 3v3, you just can't go small with these games I say at least 30
but more realistically it's probably 24 with some DLC thrown in later. And
again Skull Girls don't fucking count. It's motherfucking DBZ with
well over 50 established MAJOR characters to choose from.

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>>380028808
To be fair. The only people who have been playing in these first couple of hours have all been brain dead button mashers and the game is about a year out. I'll reserve tier judgment for when we're closer and better players have their hands on it.

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>>380005502

>looks better than the animation

count me in

>>380005502
Marvel is fucking dead lmao

>>380029041
So glad I never got into Berserk. I'd probably be upsetti spaghetti at this blatant slap in the dick to fans.

>>380026465
>6 characters
>all of them suck

db fags btfo

>>380028352
that atleast mitigates the scummy 50/50 incoming mixup from MVC

>>380028820
Does Goku not have SSB in his moveset here? Only reason I'm asking is that I feel they may end up making that a seperate character slot instead which would be lame

>>380028837
MvCI will be at EVO. Even if nobody is playing it (no chance) it would be there, Capcom needs it to do well and they'll pay their way in.
This will likely show up, but it will get an awful time slot unless the community proves it's real and some other game gets the axe.

Marvel is LITERALLY FINISHED

>2D fighting game in 2018
What they fuck were they thinking? We don't play nes anymore for a reason.

>>380005502
I try not to get hype for games but yeah, I'm most likely going to buy this.

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It looks so good!

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>>380028820
>that final flash
Mother of God I need this.

>>380029208
Well, yeah, MVCI will be pretty popular and will be at Evo. I think this (if it's good) will be more popular though, and might push some of the Nether Realms garbage off of the main stage. DBZ is popular among fightanfags and this looks like an actual good replacement for MvC3

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>>380029001
I will agree it is early to call it, but there are parts such as certain punches of his not being able to hit characters like Gohan and Vegeta and in general just being a large hitbox that allows him to get comboed that have me worried.

Only reason I worry is that Buu's pretty fun to play as generally and I like having him be at least decent.

>>380029439
>that shitty damage
Why

>>380029343
>How to spot a faggot: The post
Back to your dress up simulator and mobas

>>380029136

Berserk is great, but being a fan is literal suffering, which is pretty meta.

>There are fags that aren't going to play this because "THEY AIN'T FLOATIN' LIKE MUH ANIME FIGHT"
Race war now.

>>380029609
Because that was a day -150 combo that looks like the equivalent of a launch->aerial rave->super

Post teams fags
>Piccolo
>Future Trunks
>Good Assist Who Is Fun To Play

>>380005502
Game of the show so far. Xenoverse is fun and all, but this looks like the game that Dragonball always deserved.

Fightanfags, what joystick am I supposed to get for a PS4?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj2I5z8-7nw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ii5u9aLtxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMqdNnPqOo

>>380029849
You probably won't need a stick for this game but I recommend the Hori RAP4

>>380029849
Hori V4

>>380028943
Look, I want this game to have a big cast too. It's the only way they're going to throw in any Dragon Ball characters that aren't important in Z or Super.
Realistically though ArcSys has to model, animate, and game design each of these characters from scratch (assuming it is more complicated than their previous handled games and they can't port too much over).
SG and DB are obviously in different leagues as far as properties go, as are Lab Zero and ArcSys. Before I was just saying you don't actually have to launch with a large roster in a 3V3 game. It's better to, but you don't have to. ArcSys normally launches with less than 20 characters, which is why I'm guessing somewhere between 18-25 for this game.
Also don't bring up number of characters to choose from when it comes to SkullGirls, that's not relevant at all. Every god damn background character in the series was considered as a DLC character, and there are a lot. Their small cast has more to do with setting reasonable expectations for an indie studio.

Shame it looks like all the characters play styles are so similar.

>>380029937
Looks like an improved Butoden

>>380028808
>day minus 150
>claiming anyone is low tier
Fuck this board

>>380029849
Any stick with a headset port like the Tekken 7 Hori stick or one of the new Qanbas so you can talk to your friendos.

>>380030145
With the namco budget they have, they should be able to make quite a lot of DLC characters, hope they aren't too jewish with them though, and release them in packs.

First Sonic Mania with that 2D goodness and now this. We have entered a
2D renaissance my boys. What's next?

>>380028808
Buu appears to have a massive health and damage advantage to make up for having a shitbox. His reach with some normals is fucking huge.
Among those six from these limited gameplay clips, the one that looks low tier is Cell. I didn't see any cannon to go with his glass.

>>380030283
To be fair, it's only logical for a character who plays unusually and has a huge hitbox to be at a disadvantage pre-launch. Don't take tiers so seriously until we actually can play the actual game.

>>380029545
NRS will only have their current game pushed off if the community for Dragon Ball actually puts their time and views in on this game. NRS makes games that are also popular with the non-hardcore audience, and they have a dedicated following who alternate between MK and Injustice. Being good also doesn't really have enough to do with being popular in the current fighting game scene. Bamco would need to put up pots for this game like Capcom does for it to reach that level, and I don't know if they'll want to divert attention away from their usual fighters (Tekken, Soul Calibur if 6 is coming out any in the near future)

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No Pan no buy.

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>>380028808

>>380027240
If I count up every post or comment i've seen in the past day that's said it there'd be at least 30-40

>b-but those don't count because I said so!

>>380030681
I bet you would like Note to appear too.
Cute.

>>380028585
Doesn't matter. Dragonballs. Death in DB is a minor inconvenience.

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>>380029681
>being a fan is literal suffering, which is pretty meta.

>>380028820
God I fucking hate their overreactions

It's like people didn't get used to DBZ after all these years

>>380023241
The Saiyan beyond god and the broly assj are both fan theory shit man.

>>380031346
This your first time ever watching japanese preview streams? They yell at EVERYTHING.

>Fat Buu
am I the only one who loves him?

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I'm wondering who they could turn into a grappler if they are going to bring in character archetypes.

>>380031346
It's a Japanese first look into a new game. They do this to everything. Hell, they do it with RPGs, and that stuff isn't something you get hyped about with your friends on the couch.

>>380031346
It has nothing to do with DBZ, that's how Japs are, overreacting is their normal reacting.
>*eat dollar store ramen*
>"UMAI"

What are the fucking controls?

They should have a monkey mode saiyan playable as a Sentinel-type character. They should also put Magneto and Spider-Man in.

>>380031346
That's just how they show off games in Japan. Same thing happened during Pokken demonstrations.

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>>380028936
NAIL GUN!

>>380031475
IIRC Android 16 was a grappler in the Budokai games

>>380005502
no english dub and musi, no buy

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>>380031642
No one was in the Budokai games, everyone played the same
he was a grappler in the best DBZ-game though

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>this game follows usual fighting game logic
>small/weaker characters tend to be faster
>faster characters tend to be top tier
>tournaments consist of kid gohan, chiaotzu and krillin teams

>>380031784
Name 5 games where this is true

>>380031843
>faster characters tend to be top tier
>name 5 games where this is true
really

>>380031694
There will be a dub for sure, but music most likely won't change between regions. If the music is being done by ArcSys we have good odds of getting engrish vocals should there be any. If any anime theme gets used though it will be Cha-La Head-Cha-La for sure.

>>380031784
>chiatzou is top tier
I can't believe I'll live to see this

>>380031346
They are there to sell the game, anon. They know their audience and, if anything, I'd be more surprised if they had monotonous, straight reactions for something like DBZ or any fightan. This would apply for Western marketers too.

>>380005502
Post the real trailer and stop shilling your video with 4,000 views, OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCnNnSiMoKs

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>>380031947
So you can't name five.

Cool.

>>380031972
im sure that there will be a way to mod in bruce falconer on PC

>>380031784
>faster characters tend to be top tier
Lolwut?
Anon, the opposite is true, that slower characters tend to be low tier, but in all of the gamers I can immediately bring to mind, the top tier pcs either had brutal corner game or had such powerful loops that could be done from anywhere they could not be stopped.

>>380032140
Post the real trailer and stop shilling your Kotaku video, dumbass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBI0MU73nlc

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>>380005502

I hate this because it means they probably aren't making Persona 5 Arena

>>380032140
You seem very pathetic and bitter. Can't let some random anon on the internet have his YouTube views on some anime video game trailer, huh anon? Thank you for doing the internet a service. *salute*

>>380031947
So you're just lying

>3v3

I am really excited for this game, I always wanted a real 2D fighter for Dragonball not that shitty 3D stuff. But I am unsure about 3v3 I usually am not a big fan of that.

>>380026738
this is truly the best year for games

https://youtu.be/ktDfPDL0Px8?t=4m54s

>Burst also activates what looks like X-Factor recovering blue health

Fuck.

>>380032184
Most of the Guilty Gears
Most of the BlazBlues
All Soul Caliburs
And that's just from the top of my head, it's a very common thing due to how high their skill ceilings reach.

>>380032140
>"Post the real trailer"
>Posts Kotaku video of Microsoft conference
>Not the Bandai Namco raw upload
Just embarrassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBI0MU73nlc

>>380032306
Both ArcSys and Atlus have already talked about wanting to do that, it'll happen eventually for better or worse.

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>watch the gameplay
>match restarts everytime a fighter is koed

what the fuck? You have assists and you can switch between the characters. They should have just left it uninterrupted until all the fighters in the team get koed

>>380032352
Probably be called Sparking or something like that

>>380031551
I'm worried about the Japs lately. They're extremely susceptible to the Jew.

>>380008847
Wrong. The character select screen they showed can easily fit 24 characters. For the release it's gonna be 12 Heroes v 12 Villains.

>>380032352
Why do people shill their channels on here?

Just post the actual video not some fags recording of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyAsej4PYvI

>>380032440
I think it looks really cool with the fly in animation and the return to neutral. Plus this stops the 50/50 guessing game when new characters arrive.

>>380005502
>not budokai tenkaichi styled
it's fucking dogshit

>>380032440
It still has assists so it's very Marvel-y but I guess they figured the "entrance" moment wasn't very fun.
Also more in-character for DBZ I guess.

>>380032586
Xenoverse 2 will probably still be active, every DB game doesn't have to be the same shit

>>380032586
>tenkaichi fag

>>380032586
>wanting more of exactly the same style of gameplay mainline DB games have had for over 10 years and not trying something with a little bit more -potential- depth

We can have both anon.

>>380032492
Neither of those are the video you moron, both are stealing from the Nico Nico stream. The one you posted did it better, but they also put their logo on it. Pick your poison.

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This game is honestly making me tear up a bit Not to sound like a faggot but it's giving me the same excitement DBZ use to do to me as a kid back in the 90s.

>>380032306
They will make all the cash cow collabs they can make to fuel Guilty Gear since Blazblue is over.

>>380032492
anon that is also some fags recording of it

>>380031947
You heard him. Show some examples where the fast ones are top tier. For every one, someone else could probably show ten more fighters where it isn't true.

It's very rare that the fast ones are better than mid tier. It's almost always the well rounded ones that have all of the most important fundamental tools and/or those with best reach to keep opponents out of their ideal range that stand on the top.

>>380024631
I think my dick just exploded.

>>380023241
more than half of those forms are fan made up bullshit, just delet

>>380020912
;)

>>380026738
those alt-costumes are pretty shit. You'd expect something like Yardrat Goku instead of just a palette swap.

How the fuck is Dragon Ball still relevant?

>>380028517
Yeah we EVO

>>380029182

frieza to golden frieza was easy to do, i expect goku in his movie outfit as another character seeing as ssj3 is this gokus install.

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lol XV2

>>380005502

>Yet another DB game
I thought they would milk Xenoverse until the end before they make another one.
The problem is with Xenoverse for me is that I would actually buy it for like ~20 bucks but by the time it is actually that cheap, the game is dead and replaced by the next one.