>Fallout 4 VR is a SEPARATE PURCHASE and costs a FULL 60 dollars.

It looks so incredibly awkward to play. VR was a mistake.

I'm going to enjoy the steamspy numbers.

What the hell man, first the return of paid mods and now this?

You can't make this shit up.

It's not an easy 1 2 3 port.

All the serious sam games are an additional purchase, don't see people bitching about that.

>it's not a DLC

oh how unfortunate

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>>379996870
>anymore

>Rerelease Fallout 4
>Still has the same engine bugs since Fallout 3
You know this to be true, /v/.

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>>379996870
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE

>>379997467
Yes it is

it should be a $10 DLC at most

>>379997467
Shut the fuck up todd.

>>379997876
They've been working on this for over a year, cro team has put in less work on Serious Sam and they charge full price.

I'd prefer it to be cheaper, but I can't blame them for it.

>>379998154
>working on a VR mod for a year.
>Selling the same game with a VR mod for $60

Todd. Leave. Your stupid consumerist dick sucking isn't going to convince anyone.

>>379998363

Do you even own a headset? Because I get the feeling you're bitching just to bitch.

>>379998154
Good luck getting the 12 sales of normies who can afford vr.

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>>379996870

Best they might do is have the VR version come with a normal copy of the game at some point or do what happened with Bioshock Remastered and give the remasters free if you have the original copy by release. Not sure why you faggots think they'll waste putting work on a game just to have it handed to you for free though.

Also

>buying VR

If you can afford to throw 600+ buckeroos to strap a screen to your face, then I'm sure you'll do the same tossing 60 dollars for this game

They know people with VR have money to burn, and are desperate for content. Supply and demand you fucking /v/ babbies

>>379998552
Lol I'm not even close to rich and I have a vive.

>>379996870
>Must own at least a $700 computer made in the last two years
>Must own one of $700 VR headsets
>Must purchase an additional $60 copy of a game that Bethesda fans who'd be interested in this likely already own
>Mods, the sole reason to get the VR version of this, are going to be paid and you're "Fuck the anime girl" content will either be filtered out or be put behind a huge paywall

I'm really fucking hoping this bombs, which is very well should, but people who already paid that much might not mind paying more so it might actually be profitable. It's going to take another dev using the same concept but doing it for free and making more than Bethesda for them to change their mind.

i don't own any vr shit yet but i'd pay 60 to have a large game if i did. truth hurts

>>379998564
>putting work on a game just to have it handed to you for free though.
I wasn't aware they were recreating Fallout 4 entirely from scratch. And no one even ITT is saying it should be completely free.

>>379996870
If you bought the game without VR you don't have the right to bitch that it doesn't have VR because that was never advertised. If you think a brand new version of the game with VR isn't worth as much as the game is normally you're probably retarded.

If you don't think there's going to be a "upgrade from base FO4 to VR FO4" option at a far reduced price, you're probably retarded. In reality it's going to be "if you buy the game for the first time VR comes free with it/at a slight cost during sales" or "if you already own the game it's a DLC option to get VR", depending on if you already own FO4.

I can't believe you faggots pretend that shit like this makes Bethesda some shitty anti-consumer company that just wants to squeeze every last dollar from the players even after they gave Skyrim HD out for free to anyone that owned the original on Steam. They do some stupid shit some times but as far as this stuff goes they have a better track record than most companies.

>>379998729
your*

>>379996870
Its $80 US in the Australian steam store, just so you guys know.

>>379999268
Yeah yeah I noticed that too, fuck

>>379998941
Well then stop being a braindead moron, because you're clearly doing that right now. The new version of the game having it's own listing does not mean the VR functionality won't be added as a separate DLC for the base game.

If anything, given that the VR version has the same price tag of $60 (meaning it's basically "free" for new customers) they'll probably price the VR DLC version for base Fallout 4 at $10 or so.

>>379999091
>If you don't think there's going to be a "upgrade from base FO4 to VR FO4" option at a far reduced price, you're probably retarded.
They're selling it for $60 right now. I own Fallout 4 on Steam, and the only option to purchase the VR version is to pay $60. You can't just add things like preorder sales and loyalty sales later. Steam doesn't have preorder price guarantee, and I don't think they like having to pay support staff to refund a bunch of copies of a game because it's just all-around cheaper all of a sudden but they already charged people $60 for it.

>>379998541
>Do you even own a headset? Because I get the feeling you're bitching just to bitch.
Do you even get paid by Bethesda, cuz I get the feeling you're sucking their dick just to suck their dick.

>install fallout 4 VR mod
>no fucks given

>>379998564
>if you can afford something thats 600$ then you should blindlessly throw away 60$ on something you've already paid for

first off, $600 isn't a lot
secondly, there's a thing called sensible spending. buying a product twice because it has a shitty gimmick added is not

>>379999287
Fuck mate, that's why we pirate. Why the fuck they think anyone here wants to pay over $100 for a fucking video game is anyone's guess.

>>379999524
that's what I thought.

>>379998729
You literally only need a 970 to run vr.

Most people with good computers upgrade every so often anyway.

>>379999764
that's what you thought dumbass? I do own a headset, but you're just a sad fanboy, wonder which one of our opinions about the software that runs on vr headsets is more important.


No matter how much you suck the dick of a company, they will never care about you. You are pathetic.

>>379998729
Shit nigga just how fucking stupid or more than likely young are you. VR is still in its early adoption stages given the scope of the fucking thing and with alot of early adoption of things shit takes a lot of money to best enjoy.

Shits like saying why bother with anything new and current when one can just enjoy the old and dated for a way lesser price.

yeah the prices are dumb but shit is always the case with early adoption. Quit being such a dumb sheltered fag m8 so you can stop whining about the obviously simple shit like if you had some sort of actual grandiose point to make.

>>379999478
>They're selling it for $60 right now. I own Fallout 4 on Steam, and the only option to purchase the VR version is to pay $60.

It's half a year away from release and barely an hour since they revealed it for fucks sake. Why do you assume they aren't in the process of adding it now or will add it within a week or two, knowing that if any mongoloid pre-purchases this DLC they can just refund it and buy the cheaper version instantly? Bethesda doesn't own Steam, they don't give a fuck if Steam gets refund requests.

>VR is incredibly dead and small market
>HUR DUR LETS CHARGE $60 FOR A GAME THE COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE MIGHT BUY

I can't wait to watch the numbers fail and the VR meme truly dies.

>>379996870
you can't make this shit up

>>379999863
Prove it motherfucker.

I'm not a fanboy at fucking all actually, I don't even care about the fallout franchise desu, I may get this because of the lack of content otherwise, but fallout isn't a good series

I bought FO3 when it was on sale a little while back. I bought it specifically because I knew they were working on a VR mode for it. I haven't played it yet because I wanted to play it first in VR.
Yes I'm mad.

>>379999996
You think people are rapidly adding games to Steam as they're being announced at E3? They're already in the system and set to become available at set times. If there was going to be a cheaper DLC option for people who own the base game, they would have added them both to Steam by now, or hold off adding the VR listing until they could add everything. It doesn't matter that Bethesda doesn't have to do Steam support or that they're a shit company, they are at the very least professional enough to not put a big game release up for sale accidentally because "lol why not if we fucked up people can just refund like lmao, we don't have to process that."

>>379999964
Nigger calm down, this shit should be free or at the very least discounted for people who already own the game. Charging full price is just extremely presumptious, it's saying Bethesda knows the market for this is nothing but nerds with money to spend so they're charging as much as they practically can even though they know it'll piss people off. Same with paid mods.

There's literally not a single time this kind of strategy has helped a company in the long term either. Someone is going to come along and do the same shit better and cheaper and people will slowly stop buying Bethesda crap until they change their policies.

>>380000301
>buying a game because of something coming out a year later, when you have no intention of playing it in the near future
The base game will probably be much cheaper than what you bought it for by the time Fallout VR comes out.

>>379998727
what card you running on? bought a 1070 in anticipation of getting a vive later this year. hoping for a sale to pounce on it

>>379996870
I'm curious to see how many people own both a Vive AND Fallout 4, and if those people would be willing to drop another 60 to use it with the Vive. I can't see this making a large amount of money at all.

>all these underaged whining about how expensive VR is
>all these NEETs who think Vr must meet their stringent anime criteria

Sorry fags, i didn't buy Fallout 4 in the first place so now i get to play the full game in the best medium for one price. VR games are a little sparse right now so fuck it, i'll bite the bethesda bait.

>>379998729
>they literally said they were not removing the current mod system
>OMG DEY ARE TAKING OUR MAWDSSs!!!!

kill yourself.

>>380000019
>a couple thousand people buy FO4VR for $60 a pop
>Bethesda makes $120,000 for two hours effort porting it over

>>379997072
You have never played VR.

That is all.

>>380000825
1070.

It was on sale for black friday, stalk amazon, I got mine for 600.

>>379996870
its not just a mod. its a full fledged port. its prolly the best vr game out there. It would make sense to cost it at 30eu though.

>>380001252

>two hours

Wew lad

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>>379996870
I don't mind buying Fallout 4 again.

>>379997772
Will the DLC for the VR version be a separate purchase?

>>380001340
running it well right? i see gently used headsets going for 500 but prefer to buy new when it comes to tech like this.

>>380001563

Probably

>>379998154
>B-but X did it too!

>>380001252
This. Ten people could buy this shit and they would still make money. Bethesda is literally worst than Hitler now.

Bethesda's showing at E3 this year reminds me of the one kid in high school who waited to work on a semester long project until the night before it was due and presented substance-less bullshit the next day, wasting everyone's time.

>>379996870
there is absolutely nothing wrong with this
it obviously took a lot of work to port and bethesda really does deserve $60 a copy for this masterpiece

>>379999764
>You literally only need a 970 to run VR.
Except FO4 runs like dogshit on even top of the line hardware and even shitty 10$ VR gimmick games on steam need powerhouses to run decently.

>>380001563
Yes

>>379996870
>$60
>EVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY OWN FALLOUT 4 + SEASON PASS
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Honestly, the thought of this is really enticing. My birthday is coming up in a month, maybe I should treat myself to the ps4 vr set. Plus Resident Evil has got to be super spooky in VR.

>>379996870
just download the mod.
Way easier and works better

>>380002165
>I got mine for 600
That's not American right? I just got a used Fury X for $300 and it's not that much worse in performance and can play 1440p games at max just fine.

>>380002397
>
no way it adds controller support.

>>379997254

>4 units sold

bethesda employees begin to jump out of office windows

>bought the season pass for cheap
>never downloaded any of the DLCs
Are they worth it? My PS4 hard drive is pretty full.

>>380001951
Someone actually though those projects weren't busy work so the teacher would have something to grade and pretend she worked for a living?

>>380002501
Ya, there are mods for it.
not particularly hard to add?

>>380001580
I got mine refurbished, but no damage at all, just minor box defects, find something like that. >>380002248
You have a toaster don't you?

I got 60fps on max with a 670 back when I had that.

>>380002584
Far Harbor is much better than the base game. Nuka world is shit.

>>380002710
where ?

>>380002425
Punctuation error, I got the 1070 for 400$ the vive cost me 600

>>380002674
Hey fuck you I needed the recommendation letters

It didn't look like it had the teleporting movement that DOOM had. Doesn't moving in vr like that without tunnel-vision cause motion sickness?

>>380002769
r5 1600 + gtx 1070
probably will skip fo4 vr since i didn't like the game to start. but willing to fall for the vr meme if the price is right.

who gives a shit

VR is a meme

>>380002795
Someone wasn't taken to amusement parks as a kid.

>>379996870
>implying the cucks who are desperately looking for something to use their $800 paperweight with won't buy it anyway
Bethesda's only being smart.

I'm glad that i didnt pay for it back in 2015, now im happy to pay for the definitive experience on my vive

>>380003312
Yeah no shit, that's the problem. They're clearly exploiting their customers. That's not good for their reputation or brand and this will hurt them more than help them in the long run.

>>380002958
>tfw playing FO4 in 1st person already gives you simulator sickness over half the time
Feels bad. I'm not sure I've tried a 1st person game that I was easily able to play, ever.

>>380003217
I would like it a lot better if you had the option to build a Caesar's Legion-type society and roleplay that. Unfortunately, this is FO4 and roleplay are complete strangers.

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>>379996870
I'd understand a 30 dollar upgrade for those who bought it, but my god this is just some serious rabbi shit going on

>>380003453
How many layers are you on?

Wow a Fallout 4 VR? The game was awesome when released but now it might be like playing the best game like a brand new game.

I'm buying it while waiting for the new one to come.

>>380003843
Don't forget the DLC anon, it's good trust me. Just buy it immediately.

>buy a cool armor mod with the new Creation Club™ for Fallout 4™ VR™
>excited to try it out
>realize you can't even see yourself wearing it

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>>380003739
>Someone else had the idea to do a Legion-style takeover of Nuka World
I didn't consider it until after I had beaten it, but it's the perfect foundation.

>Fuck up my mod order
>Now I have to rebuy all my mods because the DRM assuring that they're legitimate fucked up

Not a big deal

>>380003125
I don't know what you consider worth it, but right now, there are about 8 games that are pretty good.

>>380004423
Because you re-purchase games on Steam when you accidentally delete one, right?

>>380004197

> Not installing the big tits trap first person VR experience mod

>>380004505
good to know. meant mostly the price of the new vive, hope they lower or at least add goodies to get people to buy.
seen some stuff i like about vr

>>379996870
Entire F4 is a joke, paid VR doesn't change much.

>>380004083

Done! Thank you very much, I would have missed a great gaming experience without it!

>>380004572
Anon this is Todd we're talking about here. You only get one install, how else are you going to ensure mod piracy doesn't go rampant?

>>380003739
God....why do all Fallout threads come back to New Vegas politics with you autists. It is as if you hate exploring the wastes without political intrigue. Intricate politics are only possible in well established societies which a post-apocalyptic world shouldn't have.

>$60 for this

>the base game isnt even worth $10
>the base game isnt even worth being free

literally all my why

>dlc not included

thats fucking kike to the next level

>>379996870
WE ALREADY KNEW THIS. WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT DOOM VR TO BE THE SAME (a full port of the existing game, at full price). AT LAST YEARS E3, WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED THESE.

FO4VR may or may not include all DLC. If it does it's fine. If it doesn't they're fucking high on their own farts, the poor deluded cunts.

DOOM VFR *not* being a full price full port is actually more concerning. We no longer have any idea what to expect, and the $30 price point doesn't tell us ANYTHING when it comes to most VR games so far.

>>380001303
I'm not him but come on nigger vr is a fucking meme. I had friends develop a game for vr and at gdc vr had taken over half the fucking booths and displays. None of that means shit because it's an expensive gimmick and doesn't play well. It's like if they came out with 3D movies or a new 3DS except it cost $600 plus a great pc to only watch shitty movies and play mobile games.

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>>379996870
Was this really the only fallout news to come out of E3?

>>380004797
They way they're pushing it it seems to just be 3rd party DLC. So it would be sold in the same method as DLC. ...right?

>>380004843
You're talking to yourself, buddy.

>>379997772
>since Fallout 3
You mean since Morrowind?

>>380004761
According to htc/valve, there won't be a new vive or a vive 2 for awhile, and even then they'll kit it out as upgrades rather than a straight separate system, they upgraded the cable, the audio, and next the controllers this way.>>380004883
VR adds a lot. A bad game, done well in vr is a good game, the example is doom 3, everything that makes doom 3 mediocre makes it fun as a vr game

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>>380004843

VR is such a fucking scam. Serious Sam games recently got VR treatment, and they sell them separately for 40 fucking dollars each, TFE, TSE, and soon BFE, plus that standalone shooting gallery one, all cost 40 bucks totaling 160 dollars.
And TFE/TSE HD were 20 bucks on release.

Tell me more about this anons. Is it the full game but vr? Do I have to use that retarded point and teleport?

>>379999287
>Its $80 US in the Australian steam store
Hey, at least you antagonized Steam that one time with those complaints about refunds. Hope it was worth it.

>>380003784
What do you mean?

People WILL give it poor rating considering the current cynicism towards high pricing/early access

Perhaps Bethesda will then open their greedy eyes

>>380005172
Nobody liked that either

But to be fair those games were likely much harder to port being mostly older. But even then the regular versions of those games can all be bought together for like $5 during a sale so it's not like you're losing that much money buying both versions.

>>380004843
You say that as if there was no waste-exploring in New Vegas. But to answer your question, it doesnt even have to do with politics, it has to do with that sensation that your actions actually have a tangible impact on the environment. New Vegas did a great job of that, and FO4 was missing it badly. You can see that with how often "radiant" quests with no impact and no real reward are thrown at you. It makes questing in FO4 feel that much more shallow.

>>380005553
>Bethesda
Who? Oh, you mean those naive guys who just wanted to make fun games that created Zenimax which then grew to become a beast that consumed Bethesda itself in the end? You do know that Zenimax owns Bethesda at this point and that guys like Todd don't get to have any say in how business is done over there, right?

>>379999287

Yeah but thats to cover the GST that Steam pays for operating in australia

/s

>>380005460
Yeah its the full game and it looks like artificial locomotion, not teleportation. If it's done like onward or pavlov then its super good and not nauseating. Source: vive pro

>that teleporting in both doom and fo4
Why is serious sam the only fps that gets how vr should play?

>>380006365
That's what I wanted to hear. Cautiously excited now. I love my vr, but hate the teleporting crap.

>>380005683
The consequences to your actions in NV were all so silly my gaming experience never became beholden by and shackled to them, but Fallout is a parody franchise so it was par for the course. I wish there was a more serious post-apocalyptic game then I could take the story seriously.

>>380005172
Nobody understands 'Serious Sam Fusion 2017', including Croteam themselves. They now have four different versions of each Serious Sam game on Steam (Original, HD, Fusion, VR). Fusion apparently includes HD and Original, or is free if you already own HD. And you need Fusion to get VR, which is always $40 per game even though that's an insanely high price by any metric. And there's also a standalone Fusion meta-app which doesn't do anything on its own unless you own one of the proper Fusion games. And there's the standing wave shooter Serious Sam VR game which is a part of Fusion as well.

To get all three of the (decade+ old) Serious Sam games in VR (which are just their map data loaded in a common engine, Fusion) it costs over $100, possibly as much as $135 depending on what bundles you buy.

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>>380006795
>The consequences to your actions in NV were all so silly

Sometimes, sometimes not.

>>380005789
Certainly, it was more directed towards the holding rather than Bethesda personally

>Literal shills in the game trying to force the idea that paying for the same game at full price twice is reasonable
It's already bad enough the season pass costs almost as much as the full game, despite the DLC not being nearly as much content as the full game.