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>fighting game looks better than the actual anime How

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>fighting game looks better than the actual anime

How is this possible?
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But Super looks great now.
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>>379953314
made by a studio that actually gives a shit about style
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Sorry, my sage slipped.
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>>379953314
Bigger budget
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>>379953314
WAHMING UPU DESU YO
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>>379953314
More time

Besides it's always been like this when it comes to Dragonball senpai. Show is old as fuck and is so famous that reviving it is basically free money
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>>379953314
Is it time for Dragonball Super to go 3D like Berserk?
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>>379953314
There was. Mugen I played back in 2001/2002 I got off a disc my neighbor had. Real legit. Not too fan servicey with weird shit. This reminds me of it and I wish I could find it again.
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>>379953314
Are these detailed anime-like models or sprites?
Frieza's head looks drawn but his lower-half looks like a model.
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Are you asking why a model that gets reused for every animation is better looking than something that has to be redrawn every single frame? Is that a serious question?
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Why is the animation so choppy?
Shit sucks. I want a more fluid looking dbz fighter game
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>ssj3 will never be relevant again
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>>379954291
It's a full 3D model.
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>>379954187
If you wish.
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The game animators get a ton of time to think about it while the show animators have to pump out shit quickly.
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>>379953314
3d assets are easier to animate.
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Where's what I would like to know

Who's been confirmed as a playable character so far?
Will there be Super, Gt, or movie characters in the roster?
Are all battles in the game 3 on 3?
Will there be ingame transformations?
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>>379953314

That fucking cellshading is so good looking I almost didn't realize it was 3d.
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>>379954497
good, it looked awful
SSJ4 from GT is the best looking transformation though
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>>379954473
It's to make it look more 2D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E
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>>379954292

yes, when you see how other well-known shows get treated in 3d animation >>379954579
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Shouldn't his pointer finger be extended during that move?
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>>379953314
Why is he so sexy bois?
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>>379954928
Goku had his way with him and made him that way
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>>379953314
The animators there were probably paid 100000x more times than the korean slaves that work 24/7 that barely have enough to eat.
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>>379953314
>How is this possible?
Based off DBZ style
More time to refine every visual aspect of it
Using 3D models means consistency at any given time

>>379954830
Berserk is not the best example of 3D animated shows

>>379954473
When it comes to flashy super fast 2D(just like budokai, not tenkaichi) fighting games, "sprite" like animations work best, GGXRD gave the best example of this
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>>379955197
I need some pictures on this.
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>>379953314
they really gotta stop doing close ups XRD looks like shit when up close because it shows how blocky the models are
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Because TOEI. Anything looks better than what they make.
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>>379954787
>a walking furry was the best transformation
GTfags pls go
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>>379953314
Because they take pride in their animations.
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>>379954857
nah. supernova has the finger stay extended, but with death ball he forms a fist as he throws it
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>>379953387
No, it looks off. Like if the animation crew can't into Toriyama style.
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>>379955460
not even a GTfag, it's just that every other form has no effort put into it at all
>i'm a supersaiyan god now! my hair is red!
>i'm a supersaiyan god supersaiyan! now its blue LOL
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>>379953314
DB Super churns out 1 episode every week continuously for 2 years.
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>>379955926
super saiyan was always just yellow kaioken
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>there are people playing this at E3 right now

Im super jealous. Can't wait for gameplay footage to hit youtube
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>>379954807
>It's to make it look more 2D
So good animation like the Fleischer Superman and old Disney movies is bad?
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>>379953314
uh, try again sweetie
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>Golden Frieza confirmed
>Super will likely be included
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>>379953994

>filler is good now

I don't understand why people dislike Super. That whole chapter made me realize they were right in bringing Freezer back.
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>>379954779
ikr anon, the visuals are so damn good
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>>379954497
Holy fuck that looks amazing
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>>379956198
Why would an anime game look like a Disney animation and not an anime?
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>>379956285
How do you know when animation is good or bad?
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>>379956778
Super isn't bad compared to Dragonball Z. It's different than Z because it uses a lot of magic and gods and all that. Like the Buu Saga.

Z isn't bad compared to Dragonball. It's different than Dragonball because it focuses on fast fights, big attacks and huge explosions more. Like the Piccolo Jr. Saga.
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>>379956285
But this doesn't look good.
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>>379956158
Except it's not.
Other than during rush and aura explosions(hence due to motion or aura effect), goku's hair are never spiked up during kaioken
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>>379956778
I hope it is. Why wouldn't people want to see characters like Hit and Zamasu?
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>>379957230
But DBZ is shit compared to DB
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>>379956285
they gunna fug so hard
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>>379956812
The only problem is teasing Buu and then blueballing us again. Freeziepops is pretty good though
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>>379953314
Because the game doesn't have to pop out a 22 minute episode once a week every single week
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>>379957386
yes it does.
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>>379954579
meanwhile this random ass game gets better animation for an anime
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how is it possible that people still buy fighting games
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>>379956198
so you think dragonball would look good as a disney movie or something? notevenbait/10
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>>379953994
The Ep was pretty good.
But lets be real here.
The only reason why the episode did look that good was because there where no fights to spend budget on.
Even then the animation is was still just average, but it's getting there.
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>>379955197
Frieza loves big monkey dick.
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>>379957979
2d fighters are a very niche genre

It has an older audience due to the arcade scene in the 80/90s

Required skill along with memorization
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>>379957567
>the point
>your head
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>>379957979
The question is: "How does people give a shit about anything DB related?"

Well that's a very good question young man, and the answer is as simple as "because it's one of the few animes that is not flooded by weebs and waifufags, hence the games being focused in gameplay rather than big boobies."
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>>379954787
>"SSJ4."
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>>379956285

>that fucking tension

Those guys just the to fight already
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>>379957979
They're fun and actually still getting better on multiple levels with still tons of new mechanics to explore.

just made it into silver with bison, need to use dash more with the 3 frame normal/throw mix up also making bipson actually do the things I want him to do all the time ant not just impotently mashing half the time will help
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>Arcsys wasting their talents on this and not pic related
DBZ is low IQ trash anime only loved by normalfags who watched it when they were like five and can't see how shitty it was because their nostalgia goggles are on too tight.
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>>379958309
>because it's one of the few animes that is not flooded by weebs and waifufags
AHAHAHA that's only cause you don't look hard enough

Seriously, i get what you mean, but that goes for a lot of other shonen, it's really not "one of the few"
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>>379958104
>was still just average
lol no. for dbs or any other anime it was above average
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>>379958690
>not making a Gash Bell game
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>>379958940
Maybe you are right but as it's solely a show for guys due to the lack of le waifus you may encounter the usual gay weeb but nothing much out of that to be quite honest.
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>>379958690
Bamco already makes great Jojo games.
>Not knowing about the arcsys HnK game
I pity you
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>>379958690
>>379959037
Get on my level.
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>>379958991
youre naive
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>>379958690
>not wanting a Outlaw Star fighting game made by arkys
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>>379958991
You wanna know when i stopped readin your post?
It was the "lol no" part.
Fuck off retard
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>>379959174
ASB and EoH are decent fanservice but they're not good games. HTTF is the only good JJBA game.
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No wonder I couldn't find the original posts on the native archive about it, all the posts were deleted.
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>>379957567
Hey I didn't know that anime wizard was a cute bunny girl, I'm considering watching magical wizards makoto or whatever because I think the sleepy wizard girl is also sexually attractive.
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>>379954787
You mean by far the worst looking transformation in all of DB?
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>>379953314
WHY DOES HE HAVE 3 FINGERS ON HIS RIGHT HAND AND 4 ON HIS LEFT?
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>>379959663
lol no
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>>379953994

Super has been absolutely fine for a while now. Since the new arc. The ones that keep shitting on it are either memesters or people who dropped the series a while back ( I don't blame them).
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>>379959037
This, Gash Bell is pretty great.
Too bad it will never even get a proper anime
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>>379959917

You can't see the index pointing to the sky behind his fist.
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>>379957445
Hey what if Goku uses a full kaioken which just straight transfroms the user's essence into power and he turns himself into a kamehameha to findally deafeat Vegeta?
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>>379959989
I only started watching with the Zamasu arc because future Trunks was my favorite character. Animation was shit for that. After the arc ended I jsut wont bother with the series anymore because one would expect after 60 something episodes there would be some quality and improvements
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>>379958172
DELETE THIS
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>>379953387
Literally only the most recent episode. The rest of it has for the most part looked like complete shit, and I reserve my judgement on whether or not it's good now until the tournament.

At least the fight choreography for the next episode with Frieza's murderous rampage is looking good in the preview.
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>>379954779

That's how I felt when GG Xrd was first shown off and they rotated the camera in the trailer. It's such a fantastic style.
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>>379959991
>even if it ever gets a proper readaptation by a competent animation studio they probably won't use the original music
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>>379958690
Stay mad.
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>>379959989
The Zamasu arc was shit and looked like shit. The ending made it a thousand times worse. I only continued watching because U6 Saiyans/Kale shenanigans.

This new game has me hyped though.
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>>379953314
Finally I can play Guilty Gear Xrd without being called a weeb
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>>>/a/.
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>>379960365
What did you think of Future Trunks arc?
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>>379959037

>never played mamodo battles
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my nigga coola better be in this roster
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>>379960915
Please.
To be honest I'd be happy with just a proper adaptation.
The old anime took all of the after chapter gags and mixed them in with the regular stuff. Really grating stuff.

The same shit happened to the kinnikuman anime, the manga cuts down on the gags and eventually cuts them out entirely but the anime never ever stops with stupid gags.

WHY
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>>379961527
Trunks had some cool bits and it's interesting how he became as strong as he did by himself but black was wasted fucking potential
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>>379961682
so where do souls that died in space go?
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>>379953994
Please don't tell me they're somehow going to redeem Freeza

Please
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>>379953314
i've been asking this since Naruto Storm games
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>>379954579
The problem with Berserk isn't that it's 3D. It's that the people making it have zero artistic integrity. At the end of production somebody should have taken one look at that and hit the Delete key. The quality's downright insulting to all people involved.
If you took the DB Fighter assets and gave it to an animation team that gave a serious fuck it'd easily outshine DB Super.
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>>379961814
unlikely.
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>>379954787
That isn't SSJ2.
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DARBULA OR RIOT
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>>379959624
I want an open-world space combat game where I can chop people's shit in space with grappler arms. I need to be able to play as a Ctarl Ctarl though. For reasons.
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>>379953314
Capcom is so finished
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>>379961814
He's going to help them win, get wished back, start some shit, then be killed again. Or, Goku being Goku, will train Frieza until they fight to the death on equal footing.
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>>379962072
This

The studio that makes the naruto games and asura's wrath should just straight up make an anime, they are fucking wizards with 3d animation, pic and videos related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PudD1UrvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04e8UupoY30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicSn5RuvR8
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>>379953314
Honestly, a higher budget.
Super (as well as every Toei property that isn't Precure) has a budget of a Amazon Prime Subscription.
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>>379956198
Fuck that rotoscope shit
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>>379954058
Is that muh nigga Bardock?
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>>379954787
2/10
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>>379962382
Or he gets banished to one of the other universes and is there problem.
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>>379956778
>Not wanting to get Blacked
t. Future Trunks
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>>379956778
Given how small the character roster will be, there will probably be only 3 characters from Super.

>Beerus
>Hit
>Goku Black
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>>379962382
>. Or, Goku being Goku, will train Frieza until they fight to the death on equal footing.

Goku believes that people are redeemable, and that has been proven with Vegeta and Picollo. Thing is, some people ARE just dicks. Someone like Freiza is NOT redeemable at all.
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>>379961814
inb4 Vegetas grand betrayal
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>>379961814
Goku's been a huge con-man throughout this arc. He agreed to King Yema that he'd try to get Freeza moved out of Earth's hell. Bringing Freeza back to life is just a necessary step to killing him somewhere else.
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None of you fucking dipshits are going to play this game for longer than a week

It won't be a babby's first button masher like the last 200 DBZ games have been. It'll be a fighting game where you'll have to devote actual time to it in order to not be shit. And you will ALL 100% give up on it as soon as you realize you don't know how to instant air dash or do a combo longer than 4 hits. At that point you'll go to /v/ and use the excuse of "well nobody wants to play a game with hour long combos and infinites and i was never excited for that game anyway"

This happens with every fighting game that there's even a small amount of hype for, and it'll only be more true with Dragon Ball Fighter Z
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>>379958690
>he says while posting My Little Jojo
whatever, here's that reply you so obviously want.
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>>379963037
>>379962367
is what is going to happen
and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it
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>>379953314

i want to see how ARC handles a xenoverse game
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>>379963037
You came all the way here to post that?
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>>379963037
Im willing to drop SF Tekken and Injustice for this so fuck off
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>>379953314
It isnt being animated in Korea.
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>>379953387
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>>379958104
>>379959989
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>>379962439
The ost would be the worst thing of all time.
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>>379956285
They love each other don't they?
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Childhood is liking shonuen
Adulthood is realising SoL is superior
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>>379957979
Literally the best party games with anyone.
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>>379963315
How many times is Piccolo gonna die for this stupid kid?
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It's always been this way for Dragon Ball. The order has always been:

Actual manga art>>>>>video games>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anime

Toriyama's actual art has a tiny bit of an overthetop whacky look to each character that makes them look more unique so that's tops. The video games often use a variety of effects to make things look much cooler. But the anime have historically been on godawful budgets on a per episode basis.
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>>379963315
Why would they even be afraid of level 1 Frieza anyway
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>>379953314
They had time to work on it
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>>379963712
After training for 4 months, first form Frieza was at least SSJ3 level..
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>>379953994
wow static poses with little motion
what incredible animation
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>>379957130
>Is it fucking sugoi?
>Y/N
That's basically it, super has good drawings now but judging by the webm animation is average.
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>>379958690
DB is better than jojo, man. Jojo only gets good soundtrack and visuals, the story is shit
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>>379963712
He trained to the point where his base form was equal to his 100%
Still should be slapped into the ground by Krillin, but they seemed to reset the power scale after BoG
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>>379963516
Twilight years are realizing that /m/echa was the true patrician's choice all along, but you've wasted too much time to appreciate it all
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>>379954787
>not SS3
I liked SS4 though.
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>>379963602
Till he starts dodging.
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>>379963516
>adulthood is realizing that people have and always will have different tastes
fify
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>>379959989
Dropped during Goku Black arc. I hope Super got better since then for the sake of those DBZ crackheads who are still coming back to their Toei dealer. You guys deserve better.
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>>379956285
This looks terrible...
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>>379963874
Their standards are much lower after watching a hundred episodes of garbage.
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>>379957979

It's a genre some people still enjoy. What's not to get?
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Why did they make Frieza into the Villains' protagonist? Is it because he's Toriyama's favorite?
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>>379953314
This is getting dubbed right? I can't stand Goku/Bardock's jap voice
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>>379963853
oh baby
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>>379963178
XVs artstyle is dogshit
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>>379964232
Is Gohan not a jobber anymore? Is it true they made all the irrelevant characters from Z strong again?
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>>379964232
The voice actress for Goku has literally given up. Shes absolute dogshit at voice acting during fighting scenes now.

ATATATATATATATA should not be her default solution. Stupid bitch.
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>>379960334
>Turn self into a kamehameha
Launch me Domon!
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>>379964274
Namco is publishing, it's already confirmed to be coming to PC AND was first revealed on a Xbox conference. It's gonna have english actors.
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>>379964431
>Is Gohan not a jobber anymore?
Is this even a question?
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>>379964125
retard
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>>379964431
>Is Gohan not a jobber anymore?
kek
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>>379963853
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>>379964581
She's fucking old dude. She probably can't take it anymore but the executives probably are threatening her family.
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>>379964896
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>>379964715

I love DB and Z, and even GT had its moments...but every single time I say I have no interest in Super because of scenes like this I get told I'm not a "real" fan.

Sometimes things should be left alone.
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>>379964982
How does that change anything, she's still garbage.
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>>379964715
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HOLY FUCKING SHIT

FUCK ME THAT'S BAD
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So how about those amazing alternate universe fighters' designs? How many of these guys do you think will get into the DB games?
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>>379956285
So I have to catch up to the current ep. I'm a few behind. Is Frieza a dead person visiting from the afterlife for some reason like Goku did?
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>>379956285
I'm not impressed, but this does look a lot better. They probably hired a few more animators or something.
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>>379964982
>implying
jap VAs are like celebrities
you can't just fire one
she's going to voice goku until she dies
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>>379964896
Holy fucking shit, I still can't get over how good the Xrd engine looks.
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>>379964715

Holy shit. I remember seeing some MS fightan image posted years ago here with two Ryus doing this shit. Almost the same pose IIRC.
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>>379953387
>But Super looks great now.
>But Super looks great now.
>But Super looks great now.
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post your team
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>>379965123
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>>379959989
it's GTfags that have come back from hiding now that the game is revealed
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>>379954579
At this point you could cut up Xrd's story mode into a season and it'd be a better anime in every way
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>>379953314


Ask CyberConnect 2
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>>379965572
this looks so fucking good
keep posting these
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>>379965521
This looks like it was made in fucking Adobe Flash
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>>379965664
not like thats an archivement since nurutu is dogshit
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>>379965572
All of the characters are animated and designed so well. It looks just like Toriyama's 90's style.
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>>379963973

I love both. But in terms of "story" Jojo is definitely better.
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>>379965735

That's all for pure gameplay, the rest are snippets with cinematic attacks.
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>>379965548
Krillin, Piccolo and Gohan. If I lose I was just stalling for time anyway.
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>>379957626
>he doesn't know
I'll let you find out.
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>>379965585
GTfags have been back since the super anime and they have every right to gloat since GT is better the super
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>>379958668
>Those guys just the to fight already
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>>379965752

Don't insult flash like that.
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>>379965548
If they allow duplicate picks I'll go triple Yamcha and train for EVO.
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>>379953314
Because 3D models that are animated rather than being drawn at every aspect.

What I'm wondering is if the creators of Guilty Gear made this because it looks like their engine.
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>>379965161
To be fair, Z looked as awful as super does pretty damn often
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>>379960769
>Literally only the most recent episode.
The last episode isn't even one of the better looking ones of the last few months, why would you watch one episode and claim to know anything
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>>379966290
It is their engine
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Who here gonna train in the hyperbolic time chamber when this game comes out? I'm aiming to become a top player.

I'll shout out /v/ when I'm in top 8 at EVO 2018
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>>379966027
>GTfags have been back since the super anime
Correct

>and they have every right to gloat since GT is better the super
Pic related
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>>379965521
>vegeta fisting cabbas back
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>>379964581
Holy shit are you some sort of super retard
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>>379963973
>the story is shit
anime only detected kys
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>an anime for literal children has better animation than of the juggernauts of anime, and animation overall
How does this happen?

Why can't Toei put a little more money into one of the most popular shows ever?
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>>379966312


I rewatched it recently and this is so incorrect it hurts.

Every show has el cheapo scenes, but to make this claim tells me you have not seen Z in a long time. There are bad scenes but Super is bad scene after bad scene and every fight pales in comparison to even the weak filler Z fights.
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>>379966312
>Z had some bad animations thanks to low budgets
>So a an anime in 2017 made by a company that has made billions can look fucking terrible
I'll never understand this argument.
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>>379966593
>and animation overall
If you've ever considered Dragon Ball to have good animation, you're a fucking dunce. Even the high budget movies were poor. It's a fun series, but animation isn't its strong suit.
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>>379966593
more like
>an anime for literal children has better animation than anime for literal children
There were only two good fights in that whole series and you already posted one.
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>>379965548
If I'm going off of who is LIKELY to be in the game at launch:
>Piccolo
>Fat Buu
>whichever gets in of Broly or Kale

Heavy Armored characters + a Keepaway is how I ran Marvel 2 & 3 so why not stay the same. I'm mostly assuming how Buu & Piccolo will play, but Broly and/or Kale will almost certainly be my kind of character. ArcSys grapplers are usually really enjoyable for me (Pot & Tager are some of my favorite characters to play).

>>379965786
It is, but its popularity means it got a fucking BUDGET towards the end. Unlike Toei that cheaps the fuck out on One Piece and DBSuper, Pierrot put some fucking money into Naruto and some of that shit is fucking gorgeously animated. I've only seen it in webm form and have no clue what the context is, but it's really pretty stuff.
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>>379966678
I rewatch DBZ every few months, Z indeed looks as awful as super quite often.

>>379966743
I'm not defending super, i'm condemning Z.
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>>379966593
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>>379966743
because they don't need to
people are going to watch and buy merchandise anyway
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Best thing from the Xbox conference desu
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>>379966829
which is why its depressing that it looks even worse.
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>>379966743
Toei and Shueisha were already huge rich companies when DBZ was being made. You don't get 500 straight fucking episodes of something otherwise.
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>>379966931

>Z indeed looks as awful as super quite often

You're being too vague. You know damn well that Super looks worse MORE often and that there have been ZERO iconic moments and ZERO fights that were worth a shit.
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>>379953314
Having 3D models to animate makes consistency MUCH easier. All they have to do is worry about posing and camera angles, as opposed to drawn animation where the people who draw individual animation cells have to have some form of skill.
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>>379953314
Because anime is garbage?
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>>379966403
iit's by arc systems works, yes
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>>379958683
>A year later and you made it into Silver
I'm sorry to tell you anon, but you need to drop everything and start playing Tekken 7.

t. Platinum
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>>379967169
Post 2000 anime maybe.
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>>379966918
>I have seen 15 seconds of good animation in Naruto out of hundreds of hours so it must have a better budget than DBS
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When will anime start being animated at above 5 FPS?
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>>379953314
they only have to animate it once. the anime have to anime every episode. every game should look better than their anime counterpart
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>>379966918
Pierrot only does those kind of episodes occasionally, usually it's unremarkable, they did it with yyh and bleach too
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>>379966027
>GT is better
No, just no.
This is pure autism.
GT is so bad, nothing can be worse than it.
Even DBZ drive license spoiler episodes.
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>>379965240
If it's anything like DBZ, there's 4+ animation teams working on it that do alternating episodes.

This can have some strange effects.
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>mobile game looks better? than anime
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reminder that toei also does the one piece anime and that is also fucking garbage on fire

it's literally just that toei is really really bad
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>>379965521
The only new art director shots are the 2 furries in the bottom left, and the animation isn't that bad desu
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>>379963037
>not wanting to demolish scrubs who claim they love fighting games
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>>379967876

>hating on the great DMV filler in Z

It's like you don't know how to have fun. Hate on Garlic Jr. all you want, but I loved those DMV episodes.
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>>379957626
I don't get why they just didn't use the chamber until buu woke up.
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>>379967913
minoru maeda and katsumi aoshima a best
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>>379967913
28 is best
27 is dogshit
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>>379967952
the furry fights had some of the worst animation in the show tho
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>>379968218
In between stills are not animation
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>>379953314
deadlines are less strict than during the production of an anime-episode
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>>379965197
i would main the shit out of bergamo and fat magical girl.
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>>379967913
This is cool. They all have their own charm and characteristic.
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>>379968218
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>>379968218
squash and stretch and smears from single frames isn't bad animation
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>>379953994
Is that a new form or still Golden?
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>freiza never trained in his whole life
>now he trained and he's the strongest being in the world

People unironically enjoy Dragonball.
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>>379967939
>>
Post your ideal 21 character roster
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Freeza
Cell
Buu
Krillin
Yamcha
Tien
Piccolo
Ginyu
Future Trunks
Android 18
Andoid 16
Great Saiyaman
Dabura
Gotenks
Vegito
Broly
Zamasu
Hit
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>show villain trio of the main z arcs
>fat buu
>not kid buu
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>>379956285
Atleast the punches have some kind of impact now.
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>>379968706
fat buu > kid buu
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>>379968419
Sometimes they have less charm.
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>>379968508
>Super
>Dragon Ball
Reminder that Super isn't canon and will one day go in the dumpster just like GT
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>>379968706
this is a good thing tough.
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>>379968132
yup
>>
1. Android 18
2. Vados
3. Pigtail Videl
4. Cus
5. Bulma
6. Short hair videl
7. Caulifa
8. Margarita
9. Chichi
10. Post DBZ videl

9000001. Kale
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is it just me or is dragon ball not suited to confined space tag team fights?
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>>379968880
>they let uchiyama animate some of the best scenes of the cell arc
fucking hell why
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I fucking hate DB fandom now that Super is released, its like many of them WANT you to stop watching it. Even tho its not even close to bad after the hit-goku fight. But muh "powerscaling" muh "training". Funny thing is the same shit was from DB to DBZ muh "adventure" muh "humor". The only time it didnt happen is from Z to GT becasue everyone knew it was thrash.
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>>379968973
>GT
>in the dumpster

dumb quality super poster, GT is still being used in games and shit.
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>>379969159
what is going through the head of this poster?
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>>379967913
Ah I remember when hair actually moved with the wind rather than being a static hat.
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>>379966743
What is the point of Goten? Does he exist only to be fusion fodder?
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>>379963516
ah, i see you are a man of culture as well
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>>379968973
Reminder Super is the most profitable thing Toei has and its on air way less time than Precure or One piece its here to stay fag. And i welcome it because Super is like a rollercoaster that won't stop which is a nice change of pace after GT
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>>379966424
>>379967876
At least GT gave an honest creative effort. Super is just fucking dumb and predictable.

>MY NEW FORM IS PURPLE HAIR
>I COULD DO SOMETHING NEW BUT INSTEAD I'LL RECYCLE VEGITO AND GIVE HIM BLUE HAIR AND A REALLY BIG KAMEHAMEHA

SSJ4 by itself is infinitely better than anything Super has shat out
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>>379965572

All I've ever wanted in my life is a DBZ game that looked as good as the Ninja Storm games.

I finally have my wish.
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>>379957849
literally the only results for this are the other two berserk threads where you posted the same webm with the same post text. mind giving source?
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>>379969646
Good taste
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>>379967939
On the other hand Toei does Tiger Mask which is pretty great at times
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>>379970193
>At least GT gave an honest creative effort.
Kindly go fuck yourself
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>>379966593
Am I the only one who hates the new annoying dynamic camera angle bullshit in Pokemon? I feel almost like I'm getting motion sickness with the camera rotating about all the time.
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>>379969225
counter balanced by anime fighting game 100 hit combos
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>>379970486
Not an argument
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>>379970193
>At least GT gave an honest creative effort
Kill yourself you fucking fucktard. the main point of the whole GT is THAT SHENRON BECAME AN EVIL FUCKING DRAGON

The previous final boss is fucking ANDROID 17

And its literally LITERALLY only gokus show for 60+ episodes
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>>379970512
Gen 7 got me off pokemon for good. Pretty happy it was kind of really shit.

Makes you realize that gamefreak really is a shitty dev.
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>>379953314
Where were you for the last 8 years?
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>>379954787
Fuck off, GTspic. You pedros ruin every dragonball thread. Also your beloved SS4 is and will never be canon.
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>>379965123
>Cell using Spirit Ball
So he has Yamcha's cells now?
kek
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>>379970647
Oh yeah?
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>>379971113
There was no blood in that game. Sasuke's eye didn't bleed after using amaterasu.
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>>379956285

dragon ball is so trash now
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>>379965521
From top to bottom, left to right
>Early Super (Dogshit)
>Mid Super (Dogshit)
>Mid Super (Dogshit)
>Early Super (Dogshit)
>Early Super (Dogshit)
>Current Super (Doesn't look worse than old Z)
>Mid Super (Dogshit)
>Mid Super (Dogshit)
>Current Super (Like the other one, looks better than most of the Cell Saga)

After the last arc ended, the animation went from dogshit to somewhere between Buu and Cell Saga (though below Buu saga). Reminder that Cell Saga's animation is dogshit.

DB > Saiyan Saga > Namek/Frieza > Buu > Current Super > Dogshit > Cell > Fresh dogshit > Early-to-Mid Super
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>>379969348
>its not even close to bad
It frequently gets pretty bad. I don't hate it, but I wish it was more ambitious than "remember Frieza? He's back! Again!"
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>>379953314
It's not difficult, super looks like complete asshole. Both art style wise and design wise.
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Dragon Ball Super is the most inconsistent anime I've ever seen. It can look fucking awful one moment then passable the other.
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>Gt has fans

Literally how, even when i was a kid when i watched for the first time(and last time) i already knew after some episodes it was gonna be utter shit, Super is miles ahead of it in everything except animation but even in that is better from the Future arc Saga. Its like people forget the only REALLY and i mean really fucking good looking episodes was the Goku vs UUB which from what i rememeber was the first one Lmao. Of course Super still has that garbage RoF retelling but atleast you can watch the real RoF instead and just skip it in the anime
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>>379971442
Couldn't even show that they lost their arms at the end
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>>379970758

Shenron didnt become evil dude
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>>379971134
still better than the shit super came up with
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>>379971660
lol
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>>379971134
super SSJ4 gogeta has red hair does that mean he's a god?
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Why don't they use the super dragon balls to wish for more wishes?
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>>379971529
tldr
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>>379971618
>>
Dragon ball super is trash

I would say it's even more trash than GT and that's saying a lot

It's worse than fan service
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>>379965262
>Xrd Engine
It's the Unreal Engine 4 with actual care put into it.
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>>379972552
By what objective metric do you rate it worse than GT?

Ratings? can't
Merch? nope
Lenght? nope

So what?
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>>379968119
That's exactly what i said to my friend. Most of the main cast problems would be solved if the used the time chamber.
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What is Piccolo thinking?
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>>379972276
>Two sentences are too long to read
>Continues to post clips from the 2nd worst DBS arc (if you lump the two movie rehashes together as one)
I believe it
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>>379971660
There was some minor blood in the game
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>>379972383
>>379972276
has dbz always been this gay
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>>379970459
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is great dane
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>>379972832

Artistic content

New dragon ball as the fucking depth of street fighter

Even Mortal Kombat has better story content that super
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>>379971175
That was the cutting technique that he used to make the cell games ring
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>>379972552
>>379972832
Can't even say it's worse in quality. Its animation is just as shit, its choreography is just as shit, its writing is WORSE. The only reason people defend GT and shit on Super is because Super is newer, they don't remember something they watched as a child being bad.
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>>379970459
>>379973002
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>>379973283
Zamasu arc had a more interesting villain who was (unintentionally maybe) fucking hilarious in all of DB since Piccolo tho
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>>379972953
that's ink, not blood
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>>379973283
>Artistic content
GT is the definition of soulless corporate cash-in.
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>>379965217
U7 needs one more fighter for the Tournament of Power since Buu fell asleep, so Goku cut a deal with Freeza if he agreed to help them win. He's using the one day alive trick Goku/Vegeta/Grandpa Gohan used.
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>>379973453
smear frames are the best
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>>379970758
>implying Super isn't Goku's show

Super is literally just fan service and nothing else. I can list several things off the top of my head that GT has over Super.

>giving Goku a reasonable nerf so that using his power actually had a drawback
>the link between Uub and Buu actually meant something
>Baby was a villain that could actually get something done
>dependence on the dragon balls was given a drawback
>SSJ4 was a great design and was not easy to achieve

Fuck you and fuck Super.
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>>379971618
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>>379973359
>its writing is WORSE.
Incorrect.
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>>379973606

Imagine fucking super then

That they brought back all old characters is literally a fan service cash move
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>>379954787
SSJ2 will always be king
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>>379973538
>Kills every living being near him after seeing the girl she loves die for the hands of his best friends
>That's ink
Are you stupid or are you just pretending?
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>>379972230
Because only those who speak the language of the gods can make a wish on them and they wont give away something so broken.

In retrospect, Zamasu is a retard.
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>>379970512
your too old gramps get off the boards and back to myspace
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>>379956285
The one thing they did right was using candles instead of torches.
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>>379973714
>Baby was a villain that could actually get something done
>giving Goku a reasonable nerf so that using his power actually had a drawback
>SSJ4 was a great design and was not easy to achieve

Baby didn't get anything done because Goku easily achieved SSJ4 which negated his drawback.
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>>379972967
Yea, where you been?
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>>379961814
Nah he's gonna defect to another universe
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>>379973819
Completely correct

>Literally everything that happened after Goku vs. Baby Vegeta round 1
>Achieving SSJ4 literally doesn't give you SSJ4's power, you have to do an entirely separate ritual
>Android 17 has done literally nothing for the past 30 years
>Any Shadow Dragon that wasn't Nova or Syn
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>>379973714
>the link between Uub and Buu actually meant something

Shame Uub was irrelevant since episode 1
>Baby was a villain that could actually get something done

"Thanks" to Zamasu a whole timeline was erased

>dependence on the dragon balls was given a drawback

Nobody even gives a fuck about the dragon balls since the Androids

>SSJ4 was a great design and was not easy to achieve

Nice golden monkey, fake clothes and eyeliner, the hair was pretty ok and the tail was a nice touch tho.

And it was so fucking hard to achieve that Vegeta did in an artificial way just because lmao.

>Super is literally just fan service and nothing else

Technically everything is always fanservice you fucking retard
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>>379965240
>This looks a lot better
You're not speaking of your webm with those spaghetti arms right?
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>>379972832
>Ratings? can't
>Merch? nope
>Length? nope

>these are the qualities that make up a show and determine if they are good or not
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunM2T5E2VA

Super fags are literally retarded
>>
>>379973681
I forget, what happens if a dead person dies again while coming back?
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>>379974985
I mean it must mean something if GT was cancelled after 64 and super didn't even tho many say its the worst fucking thing in the world
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>>379962439
that mouse girl short was incredible, as expected of the masters.
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>>379972832
>Ratings? can't
What do you mean?
>Merch? nope
I'm not in tune with merch and shit but how do they compare?
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>>379975108

They're gone forever.
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Can we stop chewing on each others dicks for a minute and find out if Dragon Ball FighterZ will have music done by the same guy who did Guilty Gear Xrd?

Because holy fuck it's been a long ass time sense we got a DBZ game with a good OST.
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>>379973194
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>>379974191
obviously ink clones. the same kind sai uses.
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WIll people stop comparing the animation by the movie retellings and the universe 6 saga that shit was like a fucking year ago, get over it.
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>>379958690
>jojofags have literally had 3 faithful games for their series in both style,gamplay and aesthetic
>dbfags FINALLY get one of their own
>jojo fags start whining

why cant you let us fucking have this?
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>>379974786

>>Technically everything is always fanservice you fucking retard

>this is what the average super viewer thinks

kys
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>>379975289
Super Dragon Balls can probably fix that though.
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>>379975317

Daisuke only cares about Guilty Gear. He did BB out of pity.
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>>379974314
Baby captured Vegeta and kicked the shit out of Goku and defeated Majuub.

Goku also had to make SSJ4 essentially his new base form because he was so pitifully weak otherwise. SSJ4 also really wasn't very strong compared to the villains he faced.
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>>379974803
are you saying this doesn't look good?
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>>379971396
>i had this other scientist in Hell make another Android 17!
>never mind that 17 was always a cyborg teenager and was thus biological!

Of course, the retcon that Krillin just fucked a robot so hard that it got pregnant is pretty good too.
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>>379959991
Zatch Bell ended like fucking shit.

>my final spell is summoning everyone else.
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>>379975683

Wow he beat all the jobbers. Who in the DBZ universe would even bother putting "Beat Vegeta" on their resume?

Say whatever you want but please don't pretend GT was interesting in any way. Everybody eats shit for a bunch of episodes and then Goku wins. That's how things are and that's how things will always be.
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>>379975371

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZgIBJwQY5I

>super episode 76
>still shitty animations

how can you watch this trash
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>People being mad at Fanservice

Whats wrong with it, i get if its something like 17 in GT but GT was generally garbage but 17 in Super or the whole Kaioken thing have been used pretty nicely. I don't get the hate
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>>379976032
>Who in the DBZ universe would even bother putting "Beat Vegeta" on their resume?
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>>379975840
That's what you call out Zatch for? There's a literal power that let's you understand everything about everything.
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>>379976138
>Choosing the most filler episode from a literal filler arc for now

How about we compare Toppo vs Goku to 17 vs Goku in GT
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>>379976250
>laughing dragonball fans
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>>379953314
It lacks the inconsistencies of hand drawn animation. Everything stays nice and neat on model.
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I hope that Universe 7 actually wins the tournament of power. Goku loses a fuck ton. His only big wins were against Piccolo (daimao and junior) and Frieza. Vegeta was a team effort.
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>>379976307
I forget so much but so many people nostalgia wanking about it only remember it for the first few parts.
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>>379974786
You're making excuses at this point. Uub may not be relevant but hence "creative effort". Same thing with the dragon balls. GT made use of existing characters and entities and expanded on them.

Plus plot convenience is not an argument for SSJ4 being easy to achieve. Goku had to go golden ape and be exposed to pink moonlight. Vegeta was not able to naturally achieve the form so blutz waves were required for him to get to that point. Specific circumstances were required for it.

You are a Super apologist and faggots like you are the reason Dragon Ball fucking sucks now. You are enabling Toriyama and his now non-existent writing capability.
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>>379976376
The Super 17 fight had maybe two slides with incomplete animation. There is bad art throughout Super.
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>>379976195
>Goku does a Kamehameha so strong it breaks his arms
>Is still getting thrashed by Zamasu
>So he Kaioken Blues and proceeds to kick his ass until his legs are broken too

Like holy shit, it's so cool.
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>>379976817
>You're making excuses at this point

So are you. Uub literally did have no effort behind him. He was nothing, did nothing and that was a travesty to Z because he was supposed to be the next fucking guy after Goku and Gohan if we go by the end of Z
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>>379976376

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLupJpaE-Hg

>thinking this is any better

lmao
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>>379976307
I thought answer talker was protrayed well for how op it was. the flight to the final fight was some hype shit
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>>379976817

Dragon Ball sucks because it's too big. Nobody but Goku can ever have an interesting fight and Goku can never have an interesting fight because he can't lose.

They key to good shonen is giving all the characters a chance to have a good fight. One Piece did this for a while in a kinda whatever way (Wow, we have to fight five other pirates and they have A Swordsman, A Devil Fruit Guy, and other matching guys!), Naruto did this pretty well in a more natural way, but Dragon Ball will never do this.

Shonen crap has just evolved but DB is so big it doesn't need to and because it doesn't need to it never will. It's just fanservice at this point and there's nothing really wrong with that, but it's never going to be anything great.
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>People complaining about Super

I don't get it. I really don't. They didn't cancel anything for it. Nobody's forcing you to watch it. If it wasn't being made, it's not like Z would still be going. It doesn't damage the memories you have of the past.
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>>379976032
Vegeta may be a jobber in Dragon Ball but he is still a threat and he can still easily kill the fuck out of you. You forget that he could obliterate planets with ease in his first appearance and Goku in his most powerful state in Revival of F was wombo'd by a fucking laser gun.
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Do you guys think Marron is going to punch shit really hard in their little island mini arc?

18 said she was stronger than Krillin thinks. What if 18 has been training her?
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>>379977870
>because he can't lose.
Goku loses a good amount.
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>>379960915
YOU KNOW WHO'S GOT THE POWER
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>>379977312
I enjoy the final arc for what it was, but the narrative took a nosedive. Faudo arc is still solid, even with that asspull.
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can't wait for the onlline community to die in 2 weeks
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>>379973453
So thats the power of the Tiger's Den
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>>379953994
I can't wait to see freeza just murder all of them. They better not pull some more bullshit and take him off the team now
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>>379977938
Sequel series with Marron, Pan and Bra training and fighting when?
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>>379978091

I mean it's just an issue with stories like this in general. Goku can lose if it's a tournament or something unimportant, but right now the stakes are the entire universe.

Do you think universe 7 is going to be destroyed? No. Obviously not. Nothing consequential can ever happen in the Dragon Ball Multiverse.
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>>379975840
But everyone they befriended supporting him to become king was very fitting for Gash Bell.
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>>379954928
Is that Frieza's girlfriend?
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>>379978209
what the fuck happened to vector ball? did it get cancelled?
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>>379978576
le killing is against the rules. The best he'll do is torture a pride trooper to near death while screaming that justice is shit.
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We need more animators like Naotoshi Shida working on Super
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>>379977090
>Uub literally had no effort behind him
And whose fault was that? Fucking Toriyama. GT was better to the characters than Toriyama is. GT at attempted to take Uub and run with him and produce something interesting. Majuub should be fucking broken as hell but Toriyama doesn't even remember Uub exists so we'll never get something like it.
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>>379979250
Yup, I think Raiku said he couldn't do shit with it. The ratings were bad too.
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>>379979295
I meant those assassins, I kinda just hope he throws a massive beam straight into the air that takes care of all of them in a few seconds
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>>379960769
this
pause on any frame of that Kale tranformation
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>>379979647
well shit, this is Mx0 all over again for me
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toriko fighting game by arc sys when
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>>379979564

wow new dragon ball looks like ass.

Shouldn't they be at a power level that could simply destroy the planet they are in easily? Man the series died a long time ago, who the fuck even watches it hahaha.
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>>379978987
>. Goku can lose if it's a tournament or something unimportant, but right now the stakes are the entire universe.
Even when Goku wins, most of the time it's through a team effort or something else.

>Piccolo
That was all Goku
>Vegeta
Major team effort
>Frieza
All Goku
>Cell
Gohan did that while Vegeta blasted him from the side.
>Buu
Major team effort plus dragonballs
>Frieza again
He wins but he also sort of loses
>Hit
I guess it was just a tournament but Hit wasnt able to go all out.
>Zamasu
Fuck that retarded friendship sword/zamasu ending.

Goku most of the time doesnt do everything alone which is nice and tournament of power is a big team effort.

At least it's not Naruto.
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>>379961814
It's a filler episode.
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>>379956778
Golden Freiza is technically both Z and Super

Battle of the Gods and Revival of F are considered Z
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>>379970380
Why haven't you watched Kat's anime and bought her games?
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>>379980409

For what it's worth I'm not talking about really early stuff. Dragon Ball and a lot of Z are quality shonen.

Even then I dunno. I'm being too cynical maybe, but I gave up on super when Slime Vegeta showed up. I should probably actually watch the current arc.
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Making a single, good model is much easier than repeatedly drawing the same character over and over, frame by frame, without missing any details.

Also animation tweening and recycling
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>>379959991
What almost ruined Zatch Bell for me was the awful VA for Zatch. I know they're children but I don't want to think of Jimmy Neutron while I'm watching anime.
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>>379960224
...Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
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>>379973194
(Let's fly high)
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>>379981541
Otaku's started animating instead of artists
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>>379977907
It's basically "stop liking what I don't like". It's best to ignore it.
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>>379981541
nobody can animate anymore
flash animation killed cartoons
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>>379981541
At least with DBS, it's Toei. Have you seen their One Piece animation? Awful.
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>>379981231
>the awful VA for Zatch.
You better be talking about a dub and not Ikue Otani.
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>>379957012
of course, it's made with the same tech as Xrd. It's custom made from the ground up to make 3D anime look good (although in terms of effort, it's just as time consuming as 2D art, kinda defeating the point)
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>>379977907
People would rather have something they enjoy end instead of watching it delve deep into shit. Is this a difficult concept to understand?
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>>379963516
Fuck that, I want my giant robots tearing apart kaiju and body horror.
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>>379980231
Crunchyrolll starts having service issues every time a new episode goes up, so I guess a lot of people watch it.
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>tfw Goku replaces you with Hit as his main rival
>Now fucking Frieza has come to steal your spotlight

It's just not fair.
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>>379981881
Normies will think the new one looks better because it's higher resolution and cleaner.
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I really look forward to this game
going to continue working on my Xrd skills in the event that this game is as execution intensive as that
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>>379981541
Computers made people lazy.
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>>379982282
But you can just not watch it. Are you going to make threads about how the Simpsons isn't very good anymore?
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>>379981541
They can animate. But they don't want to spend a lot of money. Animators are expensive. They know people will just accept garbage.
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>>379964431
Not all, but a good handful. The main cast and freiza as well as Roshi coming out of retirement
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>>379982282
You're talking as if you're forced to watch it. You can just not.
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>tfw all these people complaining about quality

It's very known that TV version of Dragonball Super is lazily made but when released on DVD and Blu-Ray they get reanimated/redrawn.
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>>379964431
Dude.

KRILLIN is back. He's a real contended. Like, come on.
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>>379981541
>one studio, famous for shitty and low-budget animations, continues to be shitty and low-budget
>japan can't animate anymore huh guys wow really makes you think
I hope you get polio
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>>379978987
Goku can lose with their universe still being in-tact. The entire point that was emphasized was that teamwork is paramount, as long as the rest of the team survives it doesn't matter.

Alternative
> Z Fighters lose
> Universe that wins wishes for the planets of the low-level universes to merge with the winning universe to create one decently-populated universe
> Or Zeno reveals that was the plan from the beginning since he didn't want to genocide trillions of people and species at once
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>>379963178
Xenoverse is trash.
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>>379982894
>>379983404
Its existence is enough to ruin your past enjoyment. You see something that you used to enjoy go bad. Are you so autistic that this wild concept is foreign to you? I'd rather put a dog down than watch the poor thing suffer.
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>>379983523
Oh man, they did another pass for shading in the blu-ray version, cool. Now the parts that actually look decent can look great.
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>>379983523
But do they fix the shitty fight choreography like in >>379964715?
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>>379977907
It's fun to shit on it. I never played Sonic Adventures, but I love looking at the videos and laughing at the poor work that went into it.
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>>379982101
I'm talking about the dub. I know it's cool to hate on dubs but everyone else was fine except for Zatch.
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>>379983523
but it still looks like shit
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>>379963853
It looks sick, but I don't think I would like the choppy gameplay. I'd rather they keep it really smooth than try to create this authentic fighting game feel.
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b-blu-ray will look so much better you guys!
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>>379984453
wait seriously?
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>>379983972
If you ever played these games you'd know you have to go out of your way or be incredibly stupid to have most to the bugs happen to you. Also, that is Sonic '06.
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>>379983858
>this product I used to have and can go back to at any time is RUINED because something new that I don't like exists!

This mentality is inherently retarded. Is DMC3 and 4 ruined by DmC? Did Other M make Super Metroid retroactively worse? Did Mass Effect 3 make the previous two games worthless? Is Lightning Returns mere existence enough to destroy Final Fantasy? Did Dark Souls 2 erase the quality of Dark Souls 1 entirely? Because Fallout 4 was shit, is Fallout 2 a bad game too? Or how about the opposite? Because Nier Automata was a good game, is Drakengard 1 a masterpiece? Does Resident Evil 7 being good make RE6 great? Did Deus Ex: Human Revolution make Invisible War less of a piece of shit, because it was a good game?

Or are you just a dumb motherfucker one step away from making food analogies?
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>a DBZ game will be in Evo
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>>379984694
The rehashes of the movies were dogshit anyway. I'm not defending the abhorrent quality but why would you choose the dogshit tv series over the decent quality movies if you cared about the plot?
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>>379954787
Pshh don't mention GT
I agree though, it was a nice idea to make it mix the the whole ape theme that was never relevant again after like 5 episodes, but of course people hate on everything GT related
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>>379960983
honestly Super could've been better off as a spinoff anime about the U6 saiyans.
fuck the whole Kale is in love with Caulifla thing, tho. the only female saiyans so far and we don't even get to fuck.
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>>379983858
>Are you so autistic that this wild concept is foreign to you?
>Its existence is enough to ruin your past enjoyment.
>this lack of self-awareness
I'd say I'm less of an autist for actually managing to ignore what I dislike and just enjoy my good memories of the past.
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I hope non of you consider Super canon. It's literal fanfiction shit
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>>379978880
never, earth life takes the warrior spirit out of non-pure bloods
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>>379985224
Do... Do you think if Kale wasn't worded in such a way that it's suggested that she could be gay, which won't be the case but it could be interpreted that way, you'd be able to fuck her?
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I hate people shitting on how super looks lately. The series is at it's arguably best arc of the entire DB run and all people have to say is "it looks like shit". This tournament of power is gonna be kickass no matter what you assholes say.
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>>379975840
That was hype as fuck though
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>>379953314
>thought frieza was a girl as a kid
>masturbated to him
hold me /v/
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GT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Super
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>>379985490
Nope. Nice try, though. Akira Toriyama himself is working on it and said it is canon. You're just butthurt that GT isn't canon and Super is.
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>>379964896
>Gohan decimates Cell again
SOLD
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>>379985725
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>>379985725
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>>379985725
There's nothing we can do for you.

You're already one step ahead of us.
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>>379985126
the movies look like crap too. they post the tv show because it's better to shit on.
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>>379964896
Jesus fuck this looks like some SRW animation
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>>379975685
it looks clean but the design is fucking horrid.
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>>379985725
same lol
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>>379986283
God damn it DBZ looks so much fucking better
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>>379985963
>nightmare fuel

>>379986153
I wish modern SRW games actually looked that good, they've been pretty lazy with most animations since Z2.
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>>379953314
I don't think you understand what kind of studio Toei is.
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Will this be active on PC?

Most PC fighting games die hard but this is DBZ. Will that be enough to save it? I own an Xbone but I'd really rather play it on PC
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>>379964232
..has anyone been keeping an actual count on how many "across a landscape" scenes Super has?
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>>379965521
>>379953387
>I'll cherry pick some caps from early on, that'll show em. Then people who never watched it will be biased into never looking into it, I win.

He's not really wrong, it looks fine now. Animation has slowly gotten better and better throughout the show. The current arcs are entirely fine.

https://youtu.be/58tPBdzr_p4?t=1m9s
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>>379981881
>flash animation killed cartoons
Tell that to Wakfu.
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>>379964715
PATTY CAKE
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>>379987273
>Cherrypicking a scene that was specifically done by a guest animator and then had the quality dip significantly immediately after

At least post great scenes that represents the highest point of the usual animators, like Vegeta's Final Flash against Cell.
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>>379981541
Toei is ultra garbage trash and shits on everything they lay their hands on.
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>>379961814
Have you watched shit? If anything he's doubled down on being evil. Next episode he kills a couple dozen guys as a warm up for the tournament, and blackmailed Goku into reviving him after the tournament.

However evil Freiza is, they still recognize his power enough that they need him to save the universe, but he's never going to change.
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>>379983523
>some of the left ones look better by comparison
>motion blur'll fix it
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>>379984831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Bd1aVyXqQ&ab_channel=Zawarudo
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>>379963037
Literal copy paste.
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>>379985878
I hate both GT and Super, i don't care what Toriyama says, why is there only always black and white with you DB fags
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>>379988320
>Cherrypicking a scene that was specifically done by a guest animator and then had the quality dip significantly immediately after

I don't understand how this is a problem. It's a great scene in DBZ. Much better than anything we'll see in DBS. I don't think it's relevant that a guest animator did it. Feel free to post good scenes from DBS. We're all waiting.

>At least post great scenes that represents the highest point of the usual animators, like Vegeta's Final Flash against Cell.

I'm sorry I don't have every scene saved on my computer.
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Literally worse than FFXV threads
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>>379989440
I'm betting that's filler, but still
>jobbing to the guy the cast overpowered when they were children
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>>379985878
Who's to say that GT isn't canon? They decided it was possible to have two Zenos because one universe in particular had a splintered timeline. Why can't GT just be a splintered timeline?
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>>379965240
This looks like shit anon
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>>379969159
Who in the fuck is that blue skinned qt and can I stick my dick inside her?
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>>379971396
>one 17 and one AWESOME 17
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WHERE MY BOY YAMCHA AT??
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>>379986283
>see the inside of the arm, blood comes out
>rips arm off as if it were a piece of paper towel, can't see inside, no blood
Nu-Japan desu ka?
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>>379986283
Jesus Christ that's fucking pathetic. DBS fans have the shittiet taste.
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>>379989920
>I don't understand how this is a problem. It's a great scene in DBZ. Much better than anything we'll see in DBS. I don't think it's relevant that a guest animator did it.

Because it doesn't represent the normal quality of the show. You could also post screengrabs of episode 4 of Gurren Lagann and use it as examples for the overall quality, but that'd be dishonest because a guest animator did all that jank-ass off-model garbage art. It's simply unfair to gauge the show, and especially compare it, based on anyone but the usual animation staff. My picture is a good example.

>Feel free to post good scenes from DBS. We're all waiting.

Don't misunderstand me here. I'm just interested in fair comparisons and seeing hype-ass stuff, I'm not in support of DBS.
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>>379986763
to be fair, dbz in those days was literally toies cash cow, now they have too many shows to give it the animation budget it deserves.
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>>379990416
SouthPerk
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>>379990416
Nobody thinks Berserk is fine.
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>>379990874
Is that a fan movie?
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>>379968119
>>379972849
Didn't Vegeta break it again a couple episodes ago training?
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>>379988794
can you explain what is going on? last time I saw Freiza was... well, on namek when he was introduced/died there in the books.
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>>379990416
Not even Berserk fans thing Berserk is fine
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>>379991209
Nah that's DBS.
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>>379990416
I work on Beserk 2017
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>>379991209
Dragon Ball Super, that is an alternate Saiyan universe so that explains why they look different

not to mention toriyama really despises drawing muscles now so I think this was an experiment
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>>379991532
FUCKING KEK
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>>379956285
this is lightyears better than the other super episodes, but its still worse than DB, DBZ, and GT
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>>379991532
I didn't know Michael J Fox animated Berserk these days
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>>379990416
weak
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>>379991027
One Pice is their actual cashcow and it looks like shit, because they know it will sell no matter what.
The only weekly shit Toei puts effort into is Pretty Cure.
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>>379991532
so that's how they make the magic happen.
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>>379991878
Damn, that's some quality shit.
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>>379983523

You just don't get it, it's about art stylization, a pleb like you could never understand
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>>379991895
DBS viewership numbers actually exceed One Piece now.
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>>379991021
I'm not trying to represent the average quality of the show. I don't care about fair comparisons.
I was just posting a well animated scene. There is a lot of good animation in DBZ, but I have not seen anything good from Super.
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>>379991532
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>>379983972
Hi, Arin.
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>>379985571
>muh Caulifla
>THAT TRANSFORMATION WAS AMAZING "BIG SIS"
>//scowls at Cabba's transformation
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>>379991878
no way this is real
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>>379990874
Literally just girl Broly.

I don't really care. All that means is that if Broly isn't in she will be. They'd play basically the same, and how they'd likely play is what I want to main.
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>>379986881
>>379986763
>>379986432
>>379986283

This has so much motion in their drawings, you feel the power and the flow of the animation

super is fucking amateurish, it looks static and without flow, rigid

/ic/ and /tv/ would realize this, because you need to be able to draw to see it
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>>379991532
beautiful
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>>379987273
see, Super tries to get these super fast dodge-punch scenes down but it ends up looking like absolutely no impact was intended and the placement is just really fucking random. it's like they made each person two seperate parts and had a button for each character to appear on-screen, and they had one person mash both simultaneously. I really don't get it.
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>>379983523
They fucked up his shoulder on the 3rd "fix"
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