Daily JRPG thread >what are your favorites >what have

>what are your favorites
Lunar SSSC/EBC, Grandia, Skies of Arcadia
>what have you played recently
PoPoLoCrois
>what are you looking forward to
Dragon Quest XI

>>379936238
Favourites:
- Pokemon Heartgold
- Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
- Paper Mario & The Thousand Year Door
- Super Paper Mario
- Persona 4
- Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse

Literally just finished SMT IV neutral route an hour ago. Found it slightly more frustrating than SMT IV Apocalypse due to the lack of refinements and bullshit Challenge quest grinding to continue the main story, but I still enjoyed it a lot especially the morality themes of the story. Felt like the ending was a bit rushed though, I thought there was going to be one more big boss after Lucifer.

Gonna continue with my SMT Nocturne save, and then go through the DDS and Raidou games before SJ Redux and SMT Switch come out.

>>379937613
How is nocturne? I just finished smt 4/4A and seems like nocturne is the big one in the smt series. I really liked the themes/story and atmosphere of smt 4

>>379938009
Not him but it's really good, probably my favourite in the series

>>379936238
OP, what are your favorites, what are you playing?

>>379938009
I'm past the Matador battle, just before the thor battle.

It's a little unrefined, analysing an enemy requires 2MP and a turn, can't seem to find a way to view descriptions of demon skills outside of battle, and the battles are random encounters.

I think if you liked IV or really any other Megaten game though you'll like Nocturne's themes and story. If you can put up with these gameplay differences the game is still fun.

>>379938858
>favorites
Alot, i would have to go through my games
>what am i playing
Just finished Persona 5. I'm thinking about playing either Soul Hackers or Tales of the Abyss next.

>>379939301
Nothing instantly jumps to your mind?

>>379939535
Off the top of my head favorites would probably be FF6, Pokémon Diamond, Mother series, SMT Nocturne.

I'm playing I am Setsuna for the first time. It's comfy, but it doesn't have me super hooked so far.

>>379939964
What does Pokemon Diamond have over the other entries?

>>379940981
Probably just nostalgia but i like the setting, soundtrack, and alot of the pokemon designs in sinnoh the best.

>>379939964
Wow how did i forget Xenoblade

>>379936238

>what are your favorites
At this point I've played too many to be able to pick absolute favorites.

>what have you played recently
Most recent JRPG was Trails in the Sky: The 3rd.

>what are you looking forward to
In terms of what's on my list? Zero and Ao no Kiseki, but I'm putting them off for months so I can play some non-JRPGs for a while. Then the Trails of Cold Steels. Skies of Arcadia and Dragon Quest XI at some point, probably before I get back to Trails.

Persona 1 was great. My first Persona and my favored one, I played 1-5 last year.

>>379942154
Is P1 really that good? I keep hearing people talk shit about it

>what are your favorites
Shining Force 3
>what have you played recently
Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken
>what are you looking forward to
nothing, I lost the passion for jrpgs

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>>379943186
It's okay, it's not intolerably bad but it has its charms, I'd say play it if you are curious about how it all started, it gives you a lot of insight into the Persona world.

>>379936238
>what are your favorites
Trails in the Sky
Skies of Arcadia
Chrono Trigger

>what have you played recently
Trails SC replay.

>what are you looking forward to
Trails the 3rd.

>>379943304
>lost the passion for jrpgs

that sucks, i really hope this doesn't happen to me

>>379943186

I liked it, but old graphics and mechanics don't disgust me. I admit that it's rough, but I just liked it the most. Had a certain feel that was lost later on. Persona 2 was great too.

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>what are your favorites
FF9, FFT, Xenogears
>what have you played recently
Finished DQ5 today, probably starting DQ6 soon
>what are you looking forward to
Xenoblade 2

>>379938009
It's fantastic at tone and atmosphere and the story is slightly different from the usual mainline SMT stuff. Great game but I personally didn't like it as much as most of mainline.

II > IV:A = SJ > Nocturne > IV > I

Weird to think there's actually six mainline games now. For the longest time it was like 3 and SJ kinda.

>>379943186
It was a lot less ambitious than most Persona games but I feel like it does what it set out to do a lot better than most. At the very least I liked it better than 2, which is by no means bad but heavily overrated around here.

The combat in 1 is bad, though, and that's not even something to be argued about.

>favorites
XCX, Tales of the Abyss, SMT 2, Persona 4G
>recent
Replayed P4G to get the Plat before starting 5
>Current
Finally got around to 5 and liking it a lot

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I'm slogging my way through Persona 5. I want to like but god damn Okumura's palace is just so shitty and boring.


I wish there was a better jrpg on the ps4 but there literally isn't any that's a traditional based system. Nothing will ever be as good as Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song. I should just go replay that desu

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>>379936238
>what are your favorites
Final Fantasy Tactics, Disgaea, Ogre Battle 64

>what have you played recently
Akiba's Beat, Dark Rose Valkyrie

>what are you looking forward to
God Wars

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>what are your favorites
SMTIV, Xenoblade
>what have you played recently
SMT1&2, Raidou 1, P5, Cyber Sleuth
>what are you looking forward to
Xenoblade 2, Strange Journey Redux

>>379947683
I have found that with both Persona 3 and 4. They go on for about 20~30 hours too long.

>>379936238
Fantastic taste, OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQcnanaCjEA

>>379948039
Madarame's palace boss was the last time the game excited me and actually forced me to git gud. Unfortunately, that raised my hopes to high, the rest of the game so far is just a braindead cakewalk, I'm playing on hard mode too, no less.

Hyped for EOV.

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Playing through Bravely Default right now.

The writing is fucking abysmal, I'm at the start of chapter 3 and I really don't care about anything. I still think it's funny how often the game will kill off "characters" you literally just met for cheap drama.

Combat is fun and varied but I definitely feel like the job system has issues. Some are so much worse compared to others. Monk is better than Knight in every single way. Thief is trash, etc, etc.

The difficulty spikes are unreal, too. I'm playing on hard, so I expect some grinding, but normal leveling does little and it's a 50/50 on whether or not a job level does anything, so my grinding can be for nothing.

On the other hand, I love the way the sub scenarios work, even if the plots are a bit half baked, and I enjoy the little world building I actually get from them.

The Nordende rebuilding aspect is really fun, although I wish there were other ways to get workers, especially with the 3DS slowly dying.

Edea a best

I just tried Tales of Berseria and I didn't really like it that much. Broke out of the Prison and I lost interest. Any if JRPGS I should try. I was kinda looking at Persona 3 but people told me that is boring too.

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>>379936238
My faves are Azure Dreams, Chrono Trigger, SMRPG, Mother 2 and 3, Paper Mario 1 & 2,

I'm playing Energy Breaker for the super famicom

I'm looking forward to getting around to playing thru BofIII and Chaos Seed, and someday Persona 5

>>379949010
Gotta give me some examples of things you like first.

>>379948758
Theif will actually do great damge if you slap a bow on it.

>>379949010
I liked Persona 5 and I would play it even if I know the entire story. I don't really see a game like it and I'm not about to buy a PS4 for one game.

>>379949169
>>379949384
I forgot to mention I really like Kingdom Heart

>>379949362
Ranger just seems better in every way. Maybe I haven't screwed around enough with Thief yet.

>>379949512
Try TWEWY on the DS, probably the closest thing to Kingdom Hearts that isn't Kingdom Hearts in terms of tone.

TWEWY characters were also in KH, so there's that.

>>379948758
You know you can get more people for Norende everyday, right? You just update data from the adventurer and get 2-5 new workers per day.

>what are your favorites
im new to the jrpg world so i dont think my taste is valid yet
>what have you played recently
yokai watch, dragon quest 7, and dragon quest 8
>what are you looking forward to
heard that dragon quest 11 is looking good so far. looking forward to that strange journey remake and etrian odyssey 5

>>379948039

That's what I felt like. If they were just a bit shorter I think they'd be better. It's not like I hate long games, I played Dragon Quest VII for 138 hours and enjoyed most of it, but Persona 3+ just feel too long.

>>379948474

>Madarame's palace boss was the last time the game excited me and actually forced me to git gud.

This also mirrors my thoughts. After that it just wasn't as interesting except in a few places and toward the very end.

>>379943186
I think it's kinda neat but the terrible battle system and high encounter rates drag it down to nearly unplayable levels to me. I only really recommend it if you're very curious about how Persona started.

>>379949724
Well, damn.

>>379948039
5 is much longer than 3 and 4
those both took me 69 hours, I'm only on the boat palace in 5 at 90 hours

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>>379943186
It features Joker's dad

TAKASHI KIDO

>>379936238
Nate is numero uno!
Uno!

>>379949943
I forget which shop has them, but the Blessed Shields are a godsend, you can use them in battle to cast Cura for free.

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What was the first JRPG you played?

>>379949146
>Energy Breaker for the super famicom
What do you think of it so far? Got any tips? I downloaded it several years ago but shelved it since I couldn't get the hang of the battle system.

>>379950378
SMRPG, I faked sick to beat it within a rental period

>>379949513
Theif will outdamge early on due to the higher hit rate their speed provides.

Ranger will only due more if you use the family speific hits, limiting versatilityn Ranger's doesn't get bonus damge move on humans, making it bad for fights against asterisk holders.

>>379950378
Chrono Trigger I think.

>>379950378
M&L: PiT.

Still haven't beaten it. Baby stealth sections are dumb.

>>379950378
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door, if that counts

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>>379936238
Nice, happy to see my OP was good enough to be used.

Anyway
>what are your favorites
Mother series, Breath of Fire IV, Metal Max Returns, Dragon Quest VII
>what have you played recently
Right now I am playing my first SMT game, Soul Hackers. I was interested in it for the atmosphere but honestly it isn't as cool as I thought it would be. I'm a bug fan of sci fi and cyberpunk but this is just kind meh. i do enjoy the dungeon crawling though.
>what are you looking forward to
Dragon Quest XI only really. I'm thinking if a Switch version gets announced I probably will get one for that and hopefully buy stuff as time goes on. Though that one game shown last year, Project Octopath, looked interesting so hopefully some information on that is shown.

trying to play romancing saga 2 on my phone, the fuck is up with those controls

>>379950378
FF1
It was one of the games at my local youth center and I liked it a lot. i got as far as the dungeon after you cross the sea.

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>>379950424
it's weird. It took me forever to get the hang for the elemental point system. The game isn't too hard for the most part tho, I feel like either I accidentally overleveled in the woods early on getting lose and triggering battles or I the game is just real easy at first for the most part.

Tips:
Unless you want to get skills as fast as possible you can just allocate points evenly across elements on level ups and gradually learn stuff.
Heal party members when they take big damage as soon as possible since ur Life points (LP) is tied to your ability to act each turn.
Game has hidden stuff all over the place so always search corners hidden from view or random objects in new places.

>>379950886
I never trust touch controls on a phone, that is why I'm waiting for the Vita version.

>>379936238
>Favorites
Persona 4G, Xenoblade Chronicles, Paper Mario TTYD
>Played recently
Playing through FF for the first time, I've played 1-6 since january and Im now starting 7
>Looking forward to
Lost Sphear, Im hoping they got some experience and improve the problems that existed with I am Setsuna because it was a pretty solid game

Finished Persona 5 after 101 hours. Never again am I playing a Persona game. Too much tedium and filler. It feels like a huge weight is off my shoulder and I am free now.

What are some game play focused JRPGs? No games that are 70% story.

>>379936238
Does Uncharted Waters New Horizons count? Because I'm amazed at how fun that game still is nearly 20 years after I played it for the first time.

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I rarely play any new JRPGs these days, I just replay my favourites because I know I'll have fun.
I have Suikoden and Grandia on my backlog, among others, someone please inspire me to play one of them.

>>379950471
Doesn't Ranger's Targeting skill do the same thing as the monster killing skill, just non-specific and it requires way more Mana?

>>379950378
probably SMRPG, then Shining Force 2 or Shining in the Darkness

>>379951230
SMT: Nocturne

>>379936238
>what are your favorites
Old school ARPGs and SRPGs
>what have you played recently
Nayuta no Kiseki
>what are you looking forward to
Dragon Quest XI and Kingdom Hearts III

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>>379951230
Nocturne?

>>379951331
There are a shitload of old jrpgs so even if we dont get any new good ones for a long time, we at least have a huge selection of games we probably haven't played.

>>379951230
Try out SaGa Frontier.

Lads should I go back and finish Star Ocean 5? I bought it a few months ago and got about 10-15 hours in before zelda/p5 came out. I didn't mind it but it's still a bit meh. The only real highlight is looking up Mikis pantsu during cutscenes

Is there any news on the P2:EP PSP translation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhGBs7Hf3X0

>>379951546
>>379951440
Is Nocturnes battle system like P5? If so I think I will pass.

>>379951230
Romancing SaGa Minstrel song
or >>379951705
SaGa Frontier is good

>>379951786
What didn't you like about P5's system?

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Thread topic to get some conversation going.

Sony and Nintendo's E3 presentations are coming up, what announcement of an old and long dead franchise would you love to see?

If we got pic related I would fucking lose it.

>>379951583
I meant that I replay games rather than playing anything I haven't played before.
And yes, there's a lot of JRPGs out there. I haven't bought a new home console since the gamecube since I have so many old games I've yet to play.

>>379951786
Nocturne's battle system is a more complex, leagues more difficult version of P5s. The extra turn system is fleshed out, and instead of a cast of teenagers as your party members it's a bunch of demons.

>>379951978
It kinda felt like I was guessing for weaknesses the entire time

>>379952140
just remember them

>>379951786
It has similarities but it isn't exact. You have your main character and up to three summon-able demons. Each player on the field that you have grants you a turn on your action phase. Like in Persona 5 when you net a critical or hit an enemy weakness you will gain a turn. Though in Nocturne it will turn a regular turn into a half turn. So the maximum amount of times you can act on your action phase is up to eight times. Though you can lose turns as well if an enemy is immune, drains, or repels an attack, or if you miss your attack. That will drain two turns.

In the short of it, it is the same concept but more expanded upon.

>>379952140

Oh well nocturne is even worse about that, but there's a scan move if you can't deal with it

>>379952140
Yeah, give it a pass then. Try it out sometime though.

>>379949727
Which DQ did you like more anon?

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>>379936238
Man, why does japan get all the good box art, the cover for that in the west sucks. They should've just left it the same.

>>379949512
>Kingdom Heart
so any action based RPGs

>>379951743
SO5 is pretty shit, I honestly say drop it. Only really SO2 is worth looking into.
>>379952032
As I said in a previous post I am playing Soul Hackers, my first SMT game. Would you say Nocturne is more advanced then that as well. I assume so but curious. I enjoy the dungeon crawling but kind of bored by the characters and plot so far.

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>>379952018
Beware the monkey's paw

>>379952018
uggh that image is always such a tease everytime. It would never happen but a true sequel to Azure Dreams would be amazing

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>>379952018
One of my favorite series of all time. It needs to come back.

>>379951379
Not really. It has higher base damge and is good on defaulting enemies. Ranger is a great mob killer.

Theif with or without Bow Lore will do way better on human boesses. Theif will also do heavy damge on just about anything once it get's god speed strike.

If you do use Ranger, have sword magic as sub. The magic will stack with slayer moves.

>>379951786

Others have already answered you. I say just give it a shot. I like it more than One More. It doesn't even take too long to get to battling in Nocturne either, so there's not much reason to not play it for a few hours. Bit of talking at the beginning and before you know it, the world is fucked and you're punching demons.

>>379936238
>what are your favorites
Xenogears, FFVII
>what have you played recently
FFVIII, Xenosaga, Persona 4, FFXIII, Gundam AGE Cosmic Drive
>what are you looking forward to
FFXIIHD, FFVIIR, Dual Gear, Xenoblade 2

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>>379936238
>>what are your favorites
Atelier Violet
Atelier Shallie
Genkai Tokki 7 pirates
Disgaea 1

>>what have you played recently
Genkai Tokki 7 pirates
Disgaea 5
Omega Labyrinth

>>what are you looking forward to
I have all the Trails in the Sky and Cold Steel games but I find the combat to be really boring, however when I play on nightmare it's literally impossible. I keep dropping them without intending to and restarting from the beginning, I've restarted Cold Steel 3 times already.

I want to playing and beat the Shining games, Shining Blade, Shining Heart, and Shining Ark. As well as a ton of psp games.

>>379952420

Any game that's even a little bit like azure dream would be amazing for me, but I could never find one

>>379952339
i mean, it is made in japan so they ain't wrong
still doesnt feel right

>>379936238
>>what have you played recently

Dark Rose Valkyrie

>>379952372

to be fair those lolis are hotter than the girls in the old games

>>379952018
What game?

I'm preparing for the Lucifer fight in Nocturne, I'm only level 76. What are the best demons/skills for the fight outside of Focus/Pierce/Freikugel?

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>>379952312
>game with Mara in it
>rated Kids to Adults
>mfw

>>379952687

is it as bad as it looks

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>>379950378

Will Nocturne take 100 hours to beat?

>>379952891

GET THE BUFFS

>>379952964
it's a refined Omega Quintet.

but instead of anime idols, it's anime military squad

>>379952891
Pixie, something with debilitate and just regular buffs.

>>379950378
Super Mario RPG

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>>379952372
BoFVI was already as low as you can go. The only way to go lower are fucking pachinko machines.
>>379952420
I know it's a simple fan mock up but every time I look at I just feel like BoFVII is more needed.
>>379952837
That isn't an actual game but a mock up of a potential Breath of Fire VII. If you like it then you would be happy to know Breath of Fire III and Breath of Fire IV look just like it. Both are gorgeous games with great art.

>>379951743
Was it just be or did every enemy feel like a sand bag that I needed to pour MP into for it to die? I never had enough berries and the enemies were boring to fight. The skills became super repetitive to use.

I WANT TO LIKE THE GAME I FUCKING BOUGHT IT DAY 1 but the combat is soo fucking garbage and the story never hooked me.

>>379952986
No.
>>379952891
It will be the most straight forward fight you will do. Debilitate, buff attack and defense. I say don't bother with evasion because it never seemed like he missed anyways. Bring a full party heal skill and some MP recovery items and you are set.

>>379952798
I don't mind the art (however the in-game visuals are atrocious), but the issue is that the gameplay is pure garbage. It's one of the worst SRPGs I've ever played.

>>379952140
Try checking what higher level personas/demons you can fuse so you can anticipate their weaknesses.

>>379952986
Took me like 55 hours on my first playthrough

>>379952976
>When we both played the babby games of our series
Funny because I still had trouble with a lot of the bosses in FFLIII.

>>379950378
That game, actually! My elementary school had a GameBoy Pocket and a copy of it that he let me play on a regular basis.

>>379953257
I love games with great sprite art. It's one of the reasons I love SO2, I still remember the first time I saw reflections in the water in SO2. Are breath of fire 1-2 good?

Also guys Summon Night 3 is THE FUCKING BOMB, love that game. Too bad the new summon night games got meme translations.

>>379952284
i guess i liked 8 just a wee bit more. that end game of 7 is a god damn nightmare

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>>379950378

1997 was a cool period of my life

jrpgs suck

>>379950378
Either Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga or Pokémon Fire Red, I don't remember which one I played first though.

Where is a good place to start with Dragon Quest, I have a 3ds and can read Japanese. Which are the must play games?

>>379953682
to be fair I don't know if it's my first but it's one of the games I remember playing the earliest.

Others were: FF4, Chrono Trigger, Lufia 2, and LttP

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>>379953735
I dropped SN3 in the middle back when /jrpg/ was murdered. From what I remember it didn't seem that much better than 1, it seemed to me that SN was just a mediocre series.

>>379936238
>what are your favorites
DQV, DeSu1, Earthbound, Sengoku Rance, Golden Sun

>what have you played recently
Playing Nocturne.

>what are you looking forward to
DQXI

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>>379953735

The sprite art in SO2 is anything but great dude, hell SO1 sprites were more detailed for some reason

Breath of fire 1 is very forgettable, 2 is great

>>379953735
Even if you blame the bad writing on the localizers , Summon Night 5 was a pretty bad SRPG. The gameplay was pretty simple and maps were bland so the game was just really dull and tedious. Is SN3 just better in terms of story or is the level design also much better?

>>379953901
Most people point to DQV or VIII.

>>379953901

3 onward every game is at least okay

YMMV for the two earlier ones

>>379953901
Start from 1, there's really no reason not to. SNES version so you don't have to grind. DQ2 gets a bad rap for no reason.

>>379953901
play either 4,5 or 8. 9 can work too but its kinda its own thing
for the love of god don't make 7 your first game

>>379954468

why not start with the most complete one ?

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Going to play Grandia sometime this summer. Anything I should know beforehand, e.g. tips for maximizing enjoyment?

>>379950378
Pokemon Red on an emulator.

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>>379953735
Breath of Fire I and II are good but VERY flawed games. Breath of Fire I is very simple game, it kind of has that early charm that DQI and FFI has. Breath of Fire II is a weird case. It has some great aspects such as nice, detailed art, pretty good character designs, a unique story for it's time, and some great really interesting sidequests (one such as having a carpenter make a town for you) but the problem lies in the gameplay. The game has a absurd encounter rate and the dungeons are extremely tedious to navigate. Backtracking is also pretty common which is annoying.

Personally I recommend trying BoFIII and BoFIV first and maybe returning to BoFI and BoFII later on. They're good games but just lack polish.

>>379954121
>From what I remember it didn't seem that much better than 1,

So you don't remember Brave Points, the new level up system, skill points, Mei-Mei's arena? The only thing I didn't like was how the AI would not do anything until you were at a certain distance.

>>379952976
>our lord and saviour Ryuji Sasai will never make OSTs again

Still hurts.

Should I take all the stuff from the special content shop in Disgaea 5, or will it make me too overpowered? Never played this series before and don't know shit about it. The last SRPG I played was FFT.

>>379954563
the pacing is vastly different from the other dq games
also there's the "1 hour in before your first battle"
its a fine game. just not for the impatient or newbies

>>379954731
Getting over powered is the whole point of Disgaea

>>379953901
What do you like in your jrpgs? DQ games shares a core gameplay but each have their own personality and mechanics. I'll suggest one from there.

Is Bravely Second worth playing if I thought Bravely Default was a 5/10?

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>>379954573
>Grandia
By the end of the game, don't cry. Don't even shed a single tear. Or it all comes tumbling down.
;_;7

>>379954902
No. The series is highly overrated in general.

>>379954897
Not that guy but the only DQ I played was 3 at release. How has the series advanced? I remember loving that game.

>>379954573

Don't bother grinding for spells / techs
Just do the game with whatever base spells everyone starts with

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>>379954902
yeah, Bravely Second improves upon the class/battle system in a bunch of ways. It hella fun. Story line is a little meh and there is still like zero character development tho

>>379955042
>The series is highly overrated in general
By who? I see no praise for the Bravely games

>>379955063
Playing 3 without playing 1 should be illegal

>>379955042

I wouldn't call it overrated, it has some of the best bosses I've seen in a long, long while

Just finished Tales of Berseria and then Abyss, thought about playing Zestiria, but after Luke & Tear, I'm afraid I'll be disappointed at having no main heroine and Alisha leaving like 10 hours in or whatever. I really liked Luke's growth and Tear's love for him, even if it bordered on ultradense at times.

>>379955063
Well III is a great jrpg, even today it is a phenomenal jrpg that most modern jrpgs can't compare to. III is most well known for it custom party system, and in a way effectively it's job system, so I think VII might be for you. About 20 hours into VII you will be able to have your characters change classes, this system is moderately deep as each class has seperate stats and skills and master a combination of lower classes allow you to access to higher classes. Still though, what were your favorite aspects of III? VII might be a little rough for someone not familiar with DQ, there is a lot going on in that games.

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>what are your favorites
Haven't actually played any besides Pokemon as a kid and Xenoblade. Couldn't stand the infantile story of that one, but the music and setting were great. Gameplay was okay.
>what have you played recently
Just recently finished Persona 3, as I'm trying to get into JRPGs. Although I enjoyed it quite a bit, I knew I was gonna get sick of The Answer from the first boss fight, so I just watched the cutscenes on Youtube.
>what are you looking forward to
I'm thinking of playing either Nocturne, SMTIV, or Xenogears. What would you folks recommend?

>>379955186
At release everyone was jerking it off as a return to classic FF and saying it is the new great jrpg and the best of the decade.
>>379956110
SMTIV is pretty friendly if you're more of a newer player. Xenogears is a pretty weird game. It's budget got fucked over so the second disk is a mess and basically a VN.

>>379956110

If it had to be one of these three probably nocturne, but what kind of experience are you looking for exactly

>>379955175
Actually the gameplay was my main problem. I really felt like 60% of the skills were useless, and I ended up using the same strategy from chapter 5 to 8 (even doing all the rematches).

I kind of liked the the new jobs on Bravely Second though, might give it a try.

>>379955815
Boy, it has been a while. Don't think I don't appreciate the response. I loved the feel of exploration and just being out a quest. Adventuring and battling. I can't cite specific examples because it's been 30(?) years or so since I played it. I'm gonna have to pick up some of the later games.

>>379956346
>At release everyone was jerking it off as a return to classic FF and saying it is the new great jrpg and the best of the decade.

That happens every time square enix releases a game, you should be used to it by now and block it out

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Should I?

>>379954897
What I look for are the flowing

>Must have:

debuffs and buffs matter
elemental affinities
can select party members
each party member fills a class role or niche
you gain skills by some system other than just leveling up
consumables are useful
more than one type of biome (forest, mountains, plains, snow)
zoology must make sense (elves and bugs in forest, dragons in volcanos.


>Nice but not must have:

Gear treadmill with enhanceable/enchantable gear
Sprite based visuals
gain skills by spending points (like EO)
some kind of crafting system
more than one way to get from x to y
comfy snow areas with small village
caves and nooks and crannies that are just there with no connection to the story
weapons are not just stat sticks
party with 4 character
unlockable travel forms

>good extras:

Cute girls
Changeable costumes
Female protagonist
All female party is possible

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>>379956110
Nocturne, have you played P2?

>>379956427
It's been too long since BD for me, but I recall the classes in BS being fun and varied with a number of viable strategies possible. Some skills are definitely more situational than others, but they did nerf ninja a little bit so that dodge combo setup is less broken

>>379956489
>I loved the feel of exploration and just being out a quest.
1 and 2 are entirely that. The later games start to tone that down and focus more on story.

>>379956489
Well DQIII definitely holds up, don't be afraid of it not holding up. I recommend going for the snes/sfc version of DQIII. It looks amazing and is the best version of the game by far.

Last thing I played other before Pokémon Moon was Earthbound.

I need something with a New Game+, and preferably handheld.

>>379956617
FF3 is great.

>>379956764
Smt IV

>>379956670

Sounds like you should play romancing saga m8

>>379956764

Devil survivor, preferably 1 but 2 is good too

>>379956764
Could give Persona 4 Golden a try. NG+ and a long interesting story with great characters and some solid voice acting. Gameplay is simple and not far removed from Pokémon. Combat relies on hitting weaknesses and you control/capture personas, grant certain spells and abilities. Vita game.

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>>379953735
Breath of Fire II is the best BoF game with the best girl.

What's the definitive version of FF4 and FF6?

>>379956913
Romancing Saga is a gear treadmill?

>>379956898
How standalone are the SMT games?
I've been wishing that Nintendo would release the old ones on the virtual console, but god knows they can't do anything right online.

>>379957148
Feel free to post her any time.

>>379957153
FF4 - PSP. 3D remake is good too, but best on a replay if you wind up liking the game.
FF6 - SNES. In Japanese.

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>>379957148

>>379957281
Is that a LAMIA? WHAT GAME?!>!>!>

>>379957181
I haven't played 1 and 2, but most everything else is fairly standalone. They have references to each other but works as their own games.

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>>379957219

>>379957153
The only FF4 I've played was the DS version, which /vr/ has claimed is hard mode.
Voice acting, cinematic cutscenes, NG+, and two bonus bosses.

>>379957181
They're pretty much all standalone. SMT 2 was the only direct sequel, and even then you didn't need to play the first one to really understand the story.

>>379957265
I hear Kefka is a more interesting character in English than in Japanese, can anyone confirm this?

I'm getting my ass handed to me in Genius of Sappheiros but I can't stop playing and these goddamn items won't drop ffffffffffffffffffffffff

How is Devil of Decline?

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>>379956670
Buffs/debuffs actually often are quite useful in DQ games. I admit it is definitely really only for boss battles but still.

I think you might like VII, it is my personal favorite game in the series. As I said in >>379955815 you later get a job system. You level up your job and slowly master them after completing a specific number of battles. As you master classes new better classes open up to you. For example, if you master the pirate and thief classes then you can become the pirate class and so on. Personally I really love the sense of slow progression and slowly seeing my characters grow more and more towards my ultimate goal and final class for them.

Though do note, VII is VERY long. It should take about 100-110 hours to complete. Still though I love it and highly recommend it.

>>379957398
Breath of Fire 2

>>379957398
Fucking read reply chain, you dip.

>>379957281
I fucking love the shaman stuff on Breath of Fire 2.

>>379957398
Breath of Fire 2. She is a secret but she is also in Breath of Fire 1

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>>379957510
He's the same. I wouldn't call him an interesting character in any language, he's just goofy and wants to destroy everything. There's nothing else to him.

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any JRPG recommendations for the ps4 ?

Greatly enjoyed persona 5, Nier Automata, fairy fencer f Dark advent Force and Berseria been trying to find another game but cant find anything else that seems fun?

currently waiting for Trails of CS III

I've been playing a shit ton of Persona 1, but grinding is for queers, so I'm ridiculously low level and God Kandori wipes me out in like 2 turns.

Pretty much my only hope is to go out and get better personas that can actually resist/absorb his attacks and probably grind out like 25 levels but fuck having to walk all the way through Deva Yuga again.

>>379957158

Minstrel song to some extent is, and so is Last remnant

>>379957148
>20 hours
>>379957281
>>379957398
>>379957426
>>379957553
>>379957646
>>379957682
Please don't be kattfag samefagging.

>>379957794

Tried some SRW ? Moon Dwellers is pretty great

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>>379936238
>what are your favorites
.hack//G.U., Persona 3/4, Suikoden II, Wild Arms 1-3
>what have you played recently
Just beat Baten Kaitos. It was unique and fun. I liked the visual direction and some of the weird aspects like the cracked mirror dungeon and the mid-game twist. But it was definitely losing steam by the end. Probably could have been 75% of its actual length.
>what are you looking forward to
Since Persona 5 and Nier have come out and both satisfied me, I don't have much to look forward to except for SMT V and a possible new entry in one of my beloved franchises. Wild Arms 6 from Sony this year for sure.

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>>379956392
Something with a story that isn't written for toddlers, and with gameplay that isn't too tedious or grind-heavy. I found P3 pretty fun, so I figured I would like the SMT games. The story of Xenogears looked like it would be to my taste, but I have no idea how it plays.

>>379957841
Time to hack anon, P1 gameplay sucks too much to grind for hours. And walking through those dungeons again gives me cancer.

I finished earlier though. Last boss was fun.

>>379957841

Don't try to get cute in SMT games m8, no amount of smart planning will make you survive the stat checks bosses use as attacks

>>379957987
>Please don't be kattfag samefagging.

I have 0 images of her.

>>379958091

I'd recommend Xenogears episode 1, honestly. The most indepth story you'll ever see in a jrpg and severely underrated gameplay with lots of hidden complexity.

>>379952957
The snow queen quest was cut in the original release. Mara only appears in that sequence. Hence the K-A rating

>>379953735
>>379957148
Play re-translation of 2, btw.

Tell me about .hack.
I played one of the games some time between Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, but only n hour or so.

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>>379958091
How about a game about alien conspiracies with them abducting the president and replacing him with one of their own and you are one bad enough dude to save the president?

>>379958091
>>379958360

meant xenosaga, not gears

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>>379958029
>tfw accidentally deleted dolphin saves and memory cards folder in my documents
>just saved in the beginning of disc 2
Time to go to lparchive I guess...

>>379958543
I tried playing that but I had no idea how the fuck to level up or fight

>>379936238
>what are your favorites
Chrono Trigger, Xenoblade Chronicles, Final Fantasy X, Dragon Quest VIII, Tales of Destiny, Kingdom Hearts II, and Legend of Dragoon
>what have you played recently
Grandia
>what are you looking forward to
Kingdom Hearts III

Just so you guys know Omega Labyrinth is being translated. It will be out by July. They have a page on GBAtemp. Apparently they are looking for a next project.

>>379958537
I only know about IMOQ, which is a 40 hour game cut up into 4 different full-price releases to rip people off. The combat is fucking terrible, and the story is mostly nonexistent. The only good thing about it is the novelty of having forums and emails in the game.

>jrpg
>It's just watered down wizardry for retards
explain the appeal and why the genre didn't evolve in the same way as wizardry 8 or M&M6/7

>>379958873
No.

>>379958091
>but I have no idea how it plays.
I'll say this as someone who love Xenogears.
Unless you have an autistic level of attraciton to mecha, or you really enjoy Xenogears' story and world then you probably won't tolerate the gameplay.
It's not bade by all means, but it's not always the most fun.
It relies heavily on your equipment loadouts and some boss battles are really gimmicky.
Also there's the infamous second disc.

If I were you I'd play it until you get to Nisan, then see how you feel about continuing.

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I like JRPGs with romance or waifus you can date and I know most are shit but I enjoy the side romance anyways. What am I missing from what I have played?

Persona
Rune Factory
.Hack//GU
Some Tales of games
DQ5
Omega Quintet
Agarest Wars
Mana Khemia
FF8/9/10
Ar Tonelico
Ciel/Ar no surge
Fairy Fencer F
Xenogears

>>379958360
>>379958550
>xenosaga
>good
Titty robot games are shit, worst in the xeno series by far.

>>379958537
I've only played G.U. and while the combat and grind can be irritating sometimes, the world and characters are very charming. You either love it or you don't. Also fantastic soundtracks.

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>>379956673
No, how is it?

>>379958537

Each game is fairly short with not a whole lot of meat to it, the interconnectivity between them is rather pointless as even if you get the most high end equipment in a game by beating the secret hidden super boss, that equipment will be outperformed by vendor trash 1 hour into the next game

The story and mythos are pretty interesting, but overall the games are pretty unpolished and not as deep and dark as they'd like to believe

Still good for a spin tho if you're looking for something different, it certainly is an experience you cannot find in other games

>>379958662
To get stronger you have to just fight. Depending on what skill set you use then those body parts will get stronger. Throw a lot of right hooks? Your right arms offense will go up.

Fighting is another story since you need to read the manual for all the actions. You usually wait for your green meter to fill, the fuller the more damage your attack does, but you cannot do an attack when it is red since it hasn't charged up enough. Press A, then select what skill you want. To do a grapple you have to press R then your character will latch onto them then you press A to do a grapple skill. Depending if you are in front or behind them you will perform different moves.

After that it is just your positioning compared to the enemies and what skill you will use. Usually if you see the enemy dashing at you it is the best time to attack since they won't be able to stop in time to actually react to you punching them, often knocking them off their feet.

>>379936238
>>what are your favorites
Xenoblade Chronicles, Dragon Quest 8, Chrono Trigger
>>what have you played recently
Final Fantasy IX, I'm on disc 3 now and I'm really enjoying it.
>>what are you looking forward to
Xenoblade 2, Etrian Odyssey 5, and Dragon Quest 11
>>379958873
>WRPG
>it's just a glorified choose your own adventure book with gameplay worse than any NES RPG
wow...makes me think

>>379959036

Episode 1 was a great game

>>379959087
Said to have worst gameplay but best story and characters.

>>379958873
Wasn't Wizardry a dungeon crawler?

>>379950094
What was the implication for this again? Would actually be neat.

How do you stop yourself from falling into an endless circle of starting JRPGS but never finishing them and even when you do finish them you don't even remember half the game because you played it over the course of a year?

>>379958143
yeah i'm learning that. my fault for starting with FF, i cheesed the fuck out of those games. my clear save in FF8 is almost hilarious

>>379959020
sakura taisen?

>>379959020
well... the 3ds port of dq8
gives you the option to marry jessica or medea

>>379959396
You probably don't. Maybe you don't like them?

>>379959396
Easy, just don't start any JRPGs. That way it's impossible to leave them unfinished.

>>379959404

FF games are pretty good about always hiding enough advanced systems to allow a smart player to clear then at the lowest possible level, that's always been part of their design philosophy

SMT games aren't that well designed generally, they just throw a bunch of shit at you and expect you to overpower it. There's really not much you can do besides have challenge-appropriate stats

>>379936238
>Favorites
Kiseki, Ys, Xenoblade Chronicles, Persona, Mother
>played recently
just started up Trails to Zero yesterday
>looking forward to
Xenoblade 2, more Kiseki localizations

>>379959396
Before I start a jrpg I actually research it. I'm very picky about my jrpgs so it helps me narrow it down of what to play and what I probably should skip. Just look into something if it interests you and decide if you genuinely want to put the time into it.

>Favorites
Final Fantasy VI
Terranigma
Chrono Trigger
SMT 4

>Played recently?
Magic Knight Rayearth. Wasn't that bad

>Looking forward to?
Uhhhhh....


Also is the PS3 version of P5 different from the PS4 ver?

>>379956670
Could you list a couple games that satisfy this criteria that you've already played?

Eyh, anyone remember that sailor moon snes rpg ?

Surprisingly fun and involved, damn. I wish the slayers rpg were that good

>>379959826
>tfw I was a kid with a SNES emulator and I played Magic Knight Rayearth just for that nude scene (with no nipples) at the beginning.

This fucking memories man... Game is fun though.

>>379936238 (OP)
>Favorites
Suikoden, Persona, FFT, Front Mission
>Played Recently
Suikoden 5, for the 3rd time
>Looking Forward to
Suikoden 6;_;

>>379959826

Nah both P5 versions are identical

rec some dungeon crawlers that aren't smt and eo

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>>379960118
>Looking forward to Suikoden 6

>>379959826

Who is best girl and why is it Hikaru

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>>379959497
I forgot this series existed. I'll have to try them out.
>>379959501
I'll try the 3DS port then.

>>379959020
Xenoblade
Star Ocean 3
I think the first 2 star ocean's had it too
FFXIII
Trails games

>>379959219
>glorified choose your own adventure book
pretty accurate if you're describing your jrpg's desu although you there is no choice involved regarding the story
>gameplay worse than any NES RPG
you are delusional, they are all derivative of wizardry and ultima, also you say you are looking forward to etrian odyssey but that is quite literally a wizardry clone
>>379959294
yes it is an actual rpg

>>379960276

Azure dreams
Dungeon Travelers 2

>>379959826
MKR is actually pretty good for a licensed game

Also the PS3 ver of P5 has lower resolution and slightly slower load times, but these are almost completely unnoticeable

>>379960104
Wasn't MKR on the Saturn? That's the one that came out in the States, and was the last Saturn game to ever do so

>>379960416
Can you just fuck off. Some people enjoy something you don't, just let us have a nice thread you sperg.

>>379959984
Ragnarok Online
Ragnarok DS
Dungeon Travelers 1 /2 and 2-2
Etrian Odyssey (as a series)
Genkai Tokki Seven Pirates
Disgaea (as a series)
Summon Night 3
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 7
Atelier (pretty much the whole series although the new ones have casualized it hard)

>>379960315
Who exactly is this boss though? Are you talking about the secret boss?

Finished on normal though. Hard is way too boring.

>>379960416
And these JRPG's aren't dungeon crawlers?

>>379936945
I want to get into Lunar But it has too many versions. Which one should I get? Is there a fan translation for the PC port?

Anybody here played Siralim 2 ? It looked like it could scratch all of my itches for large parties with lots of customization but for some reason I'm not getting into, it feels like there's no pressure from the game to actually build a party and I just get by doing random unoptimized shit

Does it get better later on ? I really want to like it but I'm so bored

>>379959384
The characters just have a lot of similarities
>Both are delinquents
>Both are Eiha users
>Reiji sells knives, Joker utilizes them
>Both are in games with twin tails sluts
And a bunch of other tiny shit. I doubt it's true myself, but I'm hoping to meme it into reality.

>>379960907
Just play the PS1 version.

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Can someone give me a condensed rundown on the Ar Tonelico games?

>>379948758
>I'm playing on hard
Oh boy, here's a tip for the end game:If you don't learn how to break the game with the job system, you'll have to grind your ass off until until you're eventually Lv.99 and even that won't save you against a certain boss who will be impossible even if you have the absolute best gear, you'll still have no chance of winning against that certain boss unless you come up with a broken party. The boss fight can only go one of two ways, it'll either be bullshit hard, or piss easy.

>>379961109

Penetration innuendo
Little girl that can destroy the world is sad
Have to beat her into calming down
Some more penetration and virginity jokes

>>379961109
You have to play psychologist for a gang of robo girls who fight by singing in order to cleanse the world of potentially world-ending viruses.

>>379936238
>Favorites
NieR Gestalt, Lost Odyssey, Xenoblade
>Recently played
Utawarerumono Itsuwari no Kamen
>Looking forward to
Utawarerumono Futari no Hakuoro, 2's ending is akin to being balled, and you're very close to cumming but you have to wait 3 months to cum It's more like a year and a quarter for me because I saw the terrible adaptation. If you're thinking of giving the series a shot go watch or play the first game, it's you can get away without playing it in 2, but 3 it's definitely required from what I've seen of it.

>>379961109
This please, also what is the concerto series are they the same? I really can't follow gust games other than atelier.

>>379960596
There's one for the SNES, it was translated by RPGe (aka the guys from FFV) on 1999.

>>379960849
Thanks.

Regarding the Atelier series, where do the new/casual games start?

>>379936945
Alright thanks

>>379960859
The boss I'm talking about is the second to last boss in the game, on hard they can and will hit the entire party for 9999 damage all at once and instakill you if you don't have a broken setup, hell, one time when I attempted the boss I didn't even get a single turn, the boss just went first and did 9999 to everyone.

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>less than 2 days till new xenoblade 2 details

Cannot fucking wait

>>379961563

Iris, but Iris games are absolutely dreadfull so I dunno if I would recommend them

Mana khemia games are fun

Otherwise, the new wave of boring waifu simulators with shit combat starts at Meruru

>>379961173
Well, nice to know. Good thing I'm used to bullshit like that.

>>379961298
>>379961329
Heading over to emuparadise right now, this sounds so stupid but so fun

Is Atelier Firis any good? Sophie was a pretty big letdown, so I was holding off on picking up Firis until it was on sale.

>>379961940
Can't possibly be worse than Escha&Logy or Shallie.

>>379960295
tbqh the only reason im still turning the noose down is because hl3 is around the corner famalam

>>379961563
>Regarding the Atelier series, where do the new/casual games start?

The causal shit starts at Rorona (the first of the Arland series), then gets worse in Dusk (the second of the ps3 series) and Mystery(first of the ps4 series) can't even be called Atelier games imo. Violet was the pinnacle of the series, think jrpg + crafting items + dungeon crawling + recettear, with a great cast and a good story. Lots of towns, monsters, hidden bosses, secret passages that open up to new shortcuts

If you are just starting try New Rorona Plus on the ps3(has all the extra content of the psv games). Vita games run like dog shit but have a few improvements over the ps3 games.

Shin Rorona plus on the 3ds has the best combat of all the arland games but it's japanese only.

>>379962067
>Can't possibly be worse than Escha&Logy or Shallie.

I KNOW, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT, NOW I PRAY FOR THE RETURN OF THE DAY OF E&L. THEY MANAGED TO FUCK IT UP EVEN MORE IM SOOOO PISSED.

are the kiseki games any good gameplay wise ? I started Ao FC but so far combat feels like its a bad minigame, does it ever get better

>>379962242
How would you describe the balance of focus on combat and focus on alchemy in the Salburg and Gramnad series? I liked Iris and MK, but got bored of doing nothing but crafting in Arland.

>>379962647
I honestly tried liking them I even bought all the kiseki games, but the game play is dreadfully boring and I have no finished a single one despite owning them all.

>>379962067
Sophie was worse than Shallie which was worse than E&L. It's been a pretty noticeable decline with each series, so I was wondering whether Firis kept to the trend or actually managed to be good.

>>379962647
The gameplay gets better farther into the games when you have more tools at your disposal

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>>379936238

I want more JRPG for my 3ds, should I go with SMT IV or Tales of the Abyss?

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>>379959087
Great story and characters, gameplay is dated but its not the worst in the series. (That's P1)

>get confident in Japanese ability
>now not only have the urge to try games that weren't translated, but to replay everything I've ever played in Japanese instead
I feel like I got dropped into the bottom of a well of games and there's no rope to climb back up.

>>379962842
Well first of all, you can't just throw bombs around nilly whilly in Gramnad, Dungeons have HP values and over using alchemy will cause the dungeon to collapse. Then there is the fact that running out of MP/HP/or LP will result in the character fainting, meaning that all kinds of builds are possible, add that to the fact that there are some monster that do no have HP or MP or LP (undead have no HP but you can kill them by making their MP go to zero for example) and you need build diversity. I also like that the game give you a taste of what this feels like, Pamela is a ghost and follows all the rules for undead, such as not having HP or LP. She uses her MP to attack and can drain MP, also her normal attack only does MP damage, her HP damage skill costs a bit of MP.

You will spend a bit of time crafting but it's always for cash or gear. You can't really beat the game without capping out on your levels and beating some hard bosses. I would even go to say that a bit of grinding is a must, or at least a bit of exploring. Also in Gramnad you can't avoid monsters it's a random chance encounter when you enter the next room of an area. So you constantly MUST fight or run. Even those encounters can be life or dead (no game over you just go to town) monsters are though as can inflict all kinds of status effects. You need to take healing items and the sort.

>>379963020
This, from what I hear Firis is "good" but I never bought it because of how bad sophie was.

>>379963717
>hitler=hitler
>hitler with sunglasses=not hitler

>>379963731
>tfw want to learn japanese but i know i lack the commitment to do it

>>379936238
P1 is best purse owner.

>>379964083
If you have the time, you should just give it a shot. I got addicted to the feeling of accomplishment from being able to read something new, not much will power needed.

>>379963717
I prefer P1 gameplay because I'm a huge sucker for dungeon crawling.

P2 gameplay bored me to death, and I still love the games. Can't even understand.

I'm a big Fatlus nerd. I love SMT, its other series and EO.

But where do I go from here? I've tried classics like FF VII, Golden Sun, FE 7, Mario and Luigi, Pokemon and I didn't really enjoy any of those.

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>>379963321
I just got to the Primeval Land and I'm not really feeling it. I can't even begin to care about the story/characters and while the gameplay is decent, I really, really wish I picked hard mode instead of normal.
Is the second half better? Is it worth pushing through? Is it worth trying again on a harder difficulty?

>>379964620
Oh gosh whoops didn't mean to quote.
But to answer the question, I feel SMT IV is more gameplay oriented while you really need to get into the plot and characters to enjoy Abyss. Pick which you're in the mood for.

>>379964248
any recommended programs? also how long did it take you to be confident in your ability with it?

>>379964620
What you see is pretty much what you get. It's one of my least favorite in the series. It is somewhat better on a higher difficulty though since you're pressured more to time your blocks and dodges correctly. But whether that's enough to get you to restart it is up to you.

>>379965810
What's your favorite?

>>379966046
Origins

>>379964583
Do other dungeon crawlers. Though I don't even know what you're looking for.

>>379965590
The way I did it was:
1. Memorize hiragana and katakana
2. Read through Tae Kim, and while doing so, add all of the words he uses as examples in his grammar lessons to a custom Anki deck
3. Immediately start reading stuff, adding new words you see to your deck

Most people use a pre-built deck to grind vocabulary, and considering I can't go back in time and do that instead, I have no idea if it's a better method. I started reading manga and games 6 months after I started reading, but "reading" at that point took an extremely long time due to having to look stuff up in a dictionary constantly and then add it to my deck. I took a long break from doing this, so I can't say exactly how long it took (real-time it's been 3 years since I started, but as for time actively studying it's been about 1.5 years). Once I started playing games again in January this year, I got significantly faster and more confident and haven't spent a day without playing something since. It's going to depend on how much you read, the more you read the more comfortable you get.

>>379966915
>I started reading manga and games 6 months after I started reading
I mean 6 months after I started learning. Woops.

>>379965590
My only advice is don't get comfortable just because you can play games. I can play most games zero issues but can't follow a real japanese conversation for shit.

>>379967125
Reading and listening are separate abilities. If you want to do the latter you have to practice it, and the best way to do that is probably to have actual conversations.

>>379967342
Thing is reading is something where I can stop and look up the word I don't understand, write it a few times revisit my note book in a week and be good for the next time I encounter it. I literally have no system for when I don't understand a word, and some times I can't even understand what I don't understand, as in I can't isolate the word I don't know. I listen to random shit on youtube all the time and can't follow. I can understand video games and anime well enough but i think it's because voice actors have better enunciation than 90% of japanese.

>>379964083
ビープ音レタス

>>379967975
>I literally have no system for when I don't understand a *spoken* word

You niggas can hate on Atelier Shallie all you want but you can't deny it's got the best ost.

https://youtu.be/OnzAVLREjLk

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>love the kind of urban modern fantasy SMT games and spin-offs have
>played almost the entire franchise and I'm running out of games

Are there really no other games like that or am I just dumb

>>379967994
Shut the fuck up.

>>379967975
Yeah, that's why I think conversation is the best for listening, because you can ask if you don't understand something.

>>379969107
Play Cyber Sluts

Which version of BoF 2/3 should I play?

>>379969107
I'm glad I'm still relatively new to SMT, plenty of games before I run out of shit to play.

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>>379972975
For BoFII get the snes version and the retranslation patch. The original release as handled by Capcom and is considered maybe the worst localization of any jrpg. I recommend looking it up, it's amazing how much they fucked up.

For BoFIII just go with the ps1 version. The psp version has arguably a better soundtrack as it use more instruments but certain scenes were removed or edited and it has some slowdown issues.

>>379974260
What is wrong with the GBA version of Bof2?

>>379969107
you cannot escape your hunger...

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>>379975481
Same shitty translation as the snes version as well as washed out colors, inferior sound, and a smaller screen size due to being a gba port.

>>379974260
>I recommend looking it up, it's amazing how much they fucked up.

Can you give me a link? I honestly want to read about it but google gives me nothing but rom sites.

>>379975871
http://legendsoflocalization.com/reviews/breath-of-fire-ii-super-nes-localization-review/

Good read. This is the guy who did the Mother 3 fan translation, he runs this site where he looks at certain changes to games for localization. He doesn't cover every thing as it would be way too much to say specifically but you can just see that whoever handled this had no idea what the fuck they were doing.

playing digital devil saga 2

on one hand i feel like a coward for playing the dds games over nocturne
on the other hand mantras feel like a cooler version of the ffx sphere grid
also the color palette is kinda lackluster, though the music is god-tier

>>379975481
GBA ports are most of the time never a viable option to pick from.
Specifically because they always suffer from the problems listed in >>379975803.