>there are people honestly complaining that Microsoft is putting

They're Sonygggers. None of them actually own a PC, they just pretend they do so they can shit on Xbox.

>>379934669
>FUCKING WHY? No seriously, give me a good, logical fucking reason this is a bad thing.

>“When specific game discussions turn from playing great games to which piece of plastic I own I feel like we’ve lost the plot a bit" ~ Phil Spencer

It's not an exclusive if it's on 2 systems

I love based xbros, they just gave me 42 new games to pirate

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>>379935326
Except it is, dumbass. It's exclusive to two platforms. And who cares, exclusives are cancer to the gaming community anyway.

>>379935130
So Microsoft is trying to alleviate that problem, good.

Thank you Spencer, you seem to be the only non-shitter in the industry

>>379934669
>honestly

>>379934669
The only people who have anything to complain about are the people that actually payed money for an Xbox console. Because what's the point? Certainly not the games.

>>379934669
i wish they wouldn't spend all that time talking about a console that we have no reason to buy and just release everything on PC instead

did they say every game was coming to w10? cause I saw quite a few "Xbox One Exclusive" tags there.

No one is mad about it dumbass. We're just pointing out that there no real reason to buy an Xbox X/S if you have literally ANYTHING else. All their """exclusive's"" are either timed or on PC.

PC is big brubber
Xbox is lil bubber

What is there to understand? Both are microsoft.

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>>379935620
Good point

>>379934669
just xbone faggots angry because there's literally no reason to own an xbone when you can own a pc+ps4 or pc+switch

>>379934669
The entire point of exclusives is that only you and you can play it.
It might be exclusive on the console market but they all know the pc version is going to be better looking and have a way higher framerate.

This ruins the Exclusive experience of the console fag.

>>379935728
This. Exclusives are the only reason the ever buy a console.

>>379935728
>>379935728
>mad
show me one place where I said mad in my original post. I said complaining.

And to be honest, I remember Microsoft announcing that they would be pushing for both console and PC releases years ago. If you have a powerful pc and decided to get a Xbox this generation, it's your fault.

>>379934669
Because it means I wasted hundreds of dollars on a brick with zero fucking games.

>>379934669
its putting its launch games on ps4 too!

gg

>>379936178
what type of person complains about things without being mad? it's just criticism or jeering then.

semantics discussions on /v/ are boring anon i'm not arguing with you on this

>>379936089
only 5 exclusives on xbox

the 35 others are on ps4 but xbox at launch

So what you're all saying is that instead of a console succeeding by providing good value and quality service, it should succeed by making sure consumers have absolutely no options when they want to play a game, even if that results in the game being restricted to a system that simply doesn't have the power to run it?

>>379936361
Newsflash dipshit, Microsoft owns Windows, which means it's still their profit and good for them. Stop being an idiot.

>>379936271
>putting your games on pc means NO GAMES
Literal fucking retard

>>379936089
That's the stupidest fucking mindset I've ever heard. Fuck every "gamer" that thinks this way.

>>379936496
>critics

>>379934669
Because nowadays bragging that your platform has games that others don't is something really important

>>379936587
why are you so mad?

is your 4 exclusives only on xbox not enough?

>>379936587
>putting your games on pc means NO GAMES
Yes it does. I have a PC why do I need an xbox with less games and shittier performance? Microsoft should drop xbox at this point.

>>379936780
why did you buy an xbox?

>>379935326
Microsoft owns both platforms, cuck. Like Sony does PS3 and PS4.

>>379935054
They do own a PC,but it's their moms laptop

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Literally everyone who plays games has a pc. Most of these "exclusives" can run on your average laptop at low settings.
Most people don't care about 4k meme and people who bought xbox didn't buy it for the 4k.

>>379936780
Because, shit for brains, there is an entire market of normies out there who don't have the capacity or to build pcs. So yes, it does makes sense to keep in the console market, its just not aimed at me or you.

In the end though, we all get more games, who gives a shit?

>>379936496
>I was wrong, it was semantics
>I won't argue
Good, fuck off.

>>379934669
Xbox is a scam and they should just support the industry by dropping out of the console race and focusing on PC.

There's no fucking reason to own an Xbox. It's splintering the consumers for nothing.

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>>379935054
>They're Sonygggers.
this

the niggers of sony have ruined this board

>>379934669
Dude why do people treat exclusives like a good thing anyways?

"muh look my machine has this game and you don't haha!"

Jesus, it would be so much better if all platforms had all games, and you chose the one that you prefer based on other features

>>379936574
Consoles succeed because they provide a service. Simple, straightforward couch gameplay.

Now imagine I have two consoles. Both do the exact same thing just as well as each other.
One of them has 100 games and 50 of them are on my computer. The other has 100 games and 99 are on my computer. Why would I buy that console?

>>379936780
>I have a PC why do I need an xbox with less games and shittier performance?
You're smart enough to build a PC, why would you put up with an underpowered console at all? Do you seriously think it's a good thing that, say, Bloodborne can only be played with framedrops to the single digits?

I don't own an Xbox so I'm all for it. Can't wait to finally play Cuphead

>>379936921
>>379937231
Because I had spare cash and thought it was still 2007 when Halo was good and split screen was still a thing.

>>379937064
you are very hostile over percieved choice of words on a Chechnian breadbasket filling support board

please go outside

it's 2 hours till bethesda's show, you have time to take a walk and get over yourself

>>379937230
Here's a better question: if nobody paid money to keep those games locked to a fancy toaster, why would you buy either? So we're back the point: consoles don't succeed on being a good product, they succeed by fucking over everyone else to make other products worse. Glad we could clear that up.

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>>379934669

>>379937081
>splintering consumers
Are you retarded? We've already addresses the appeal and need for consoles. Them putting them on the pc platform doesn't splinter or hurt shit.

>>379937231
This.

>>379937268
This. This is a benefit to Xbox owners and PC owners alike.

>>379937137
I agree anon.

>>379937064
the interest*

>>379934669
Because people wanna argue about the stupidest shit.

>>379934669
>this shit again.

Because there is no reason to buy xbox for us pc users. Maybe you missed it, but the whole fucking main point of that conference is making you buy THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVER. I also didn't see any game that can really interest enough someone who has a ps4.
It's not fucking hard.

>>379937049
>literally everyone who plays games has a pc
No. At least not a gaming pc they regularly game on.

>>379937515
No not perceived words, its you putting words in my mouth and creating an argument from it. It would be silly to be mad, and I wasn't. I was just addressing the stupidity of people's argument. It's cunts like you who piss me off

>>379937541
great movie

>>379934669
I''m complaining from an xbox stand point, this shit won't sell consoles. I'm a PC gamer I don't give a shit just come out with something worth buying than Ori, maybe sea thieves and anime souls which might be PC anyways.

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>>379937870
They aren't targeting you with the console. They announced this market plan last year (few years ago?). It's not a problem, it's a good thing for all of is. You get more games without having to buy a shittier, streamlined pc. How is this an issue?

>>379935326
Call it a Microsoft exclusive and then fucking kys for being so fucking stupid as to understand such a basic concept. Seriously, remove yourself from the gene pool right fucking now.

>>379934669
I'LL COMPLAIN ABOUT WHATEVER I WANT TO, THIS IS 4CHAN AND IT'S OUR CULTURE!

nobody is complaining, it's a good thing. The console market is shrinking rapidly, Nintendo bailed out and is now leading with a handheld/console hybrid and MS is making a PC for babies to get into with 10 S and Xbox essentially being the same thing. Sony is left with nothing but a shrinking market of old men who grew up with consoles and who still think 'set top box' consoles are relevant somehow

>>379937954
>its you putting words in my mouth
different person, you know you can track if new IPs post in a thread?
>It would be silly to be mad, and I wasn't
we weren't talking about you, op...

>>379936089
The xbone mostly targets normalfags who will never game on PC.

>>379935054
/thread

>>379935326
its not an exclusive if it was called a "launch" exclusive at teh conference

its everything but state of decay cuphead and crackdown was on ps4 aswell

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>>379938345
My bad nigger, I am on my phone and not paying attention to shit like IPs

I missed the conference, anything important?

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>>379935575
>exclusives are cancer to the gaming community anyway.
Exclusives breed competition, competition breeds better services and better games. Homogenization is, has been, and always will be the biggest cancer to the gaming industry.

>>379934669
This.

I don't give a shit about exclusivity. If you do, then you're probably an underage dumbfuck

>>379938798
they showed a FUCK TON of amazing ____ps4 games

>>379934669
Im more like what happened to my vr bullshit

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>>379938951
>he thinks exclusivity is competition

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I don't get who'd want to play Gears of Halo: Motorsport 5 anyway. Doesn't matter what platform

>>379934669
No one is complaining. We are laughing that there is no reason to get an xbone

>this entire thread
Microcucks have been pretty testy today. What happened?

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>Bloodborne will be stuck like this forever

>>379939558
exclusive* happened

>>379939552
But why laugh? This is the best thing for the industry. Normies get their dude bro machine, which means more profit for devs, which means more games for us. And we don't even have to own the machine

>>379939720
0 fps on xbone
>>379939759
Becasue it's funny

>>379939558
Microsoft showed SONYs conference by accident

>>379939720
>>379939867
why is this a thing? bloodborne is an overrated mess

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>>379939720
>The frame time graph

>microsoft has so few games they had to pad their conference with YET ANOTHER USELESS CONSOLE

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>>379939867

>Microsoft allows games to be preserved forever and run unlimited on PC
>Sony keeps their artists visions constrained to their cheap, mediocre garbagestation

>>379935575
>Except it is, dumbass.
But that's wrong you retard. Exclusive

>exclusive
>1. an item or story published or broadcast by only one source.
One. Singular.

I think that's great
I don't wanna go windows 10 though

>>379938087
>anime souls which might be PC anyways.
It's Bamco it will be on pc for sure. sea thieves looked boring, just a prove that cartoonish doesn't necessarily mean fun game.
>>379938232
>It's not a problem, it's a good thing for all of is.
You are completely missing the point. Nobody is saying that it's a bad thing in general, people are rightly making fun of the conference and of the their marketing, not of the outcome itself.
I mean, do you seriously find strange that people are making fun of them after the real key word of the conference wasn't POWERFUL, but ESCLUSIVE when there is no real esclusive, it was filled with LAUNCH ESCLUSIVE and when it was basically a PC conference as well? Or how hard they tried to make this console look like the most desirable console ever when they put on the table only weak as fuck reasons to buy it instead of a PC or a PS?
Once again, their main object was trying to make this console super mega desirable, they failed from tons of point views, people are making fun of them because of that. Nothing strange, relax and join us.

>>379935728
>>379936140
>If you have literally anything else
If you only have a PS4 or Switch you miss out on X1 exclusives regardless of whether they're on PC or not, so that's not an argument really, you're deciding between exclusive sets of games, which is the same way it's always been.

Granted if you have half a brain you have a PC along with the other consoles once they get decent exclusives, but if you literally only have one system then the X1 is just as much a valid choice as the others

>>379940702
>Published or broadcast by one source
>Every game has one publisher
>All games are exclusives
checkmate atheists

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>>379940702
except that's not the only definition, retard.

>>379940930
only 4 exclusives to xbox was at the E3

i can do without cuphead state of decay forza and crackdown

>>379934669
It’s cool because I can play them on my PC, but it also sucks because games are like £60 on the MS store and never drop in price.

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>>379940802
But WHY, that's my point. It's a brilliant marketing strategy, since Microsoft makes bank on both platforms and it's beneficial to pc and console fags alike.

>hurr durr, no point to own an Xbox
Already addressed, autist.

>>379934669
I'm not complaining. It means I can use my PC and Xbox One can go fuck itself along with Microsoft's ambitions of winning this console generation.

HAHAHAHA

At least PS4 offers me something different now.

I don't trust their Windows releases after Forza Horizon didn't support fucking racing wheels properly

>>379941885
>It's a brilliant marketing strategy,
You must be joking nigger. They tried so hard to make people want to buy their console while at the same times they were giving the same exact reasons to buy a PC, all that while jerking off to that console as hard as they could while trying to trick people by repeating ESCLUSIVE ESCLUSIVE ESCLUSIVE every fucking minute. It was paradoxical, stupid, dishonest and pathetic.
Guess what, I'm always on fence about buying a PS4, while thanks to that conference I'm here making fun of the xbox and thinking that people should definitely buy a pc instead of wasting money on that console. Truly a brilliant marketing strategy that makes xbox the most desirable system on the market.

Everyone ITT are turboautists

>>379934669
not complaining, just laughing at their constant "EXCLUSIVE :^)" shit trying to fool people into thinking they gotta buy an xbonex

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>>379943351
>>379942260
>these sonybros still separate pc and Xbox for Microsoft
why did I expect any differently. They are mentally deficient autists

>>379934669
>FUCKING WHY? No seriously, give me a good, logical fucking reason this is a bad thing.
Because it gives people literally no reason to buy an Xbone. Microsoft is retarded for this reason.

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>>379944548
>these sonybros still separate pc and Xbox for Microsoft

>implying my machine was made by microsoft or that my Windows version is legit

>>379944548
>clearly can't read since he calls me "sonybro" and still misses the point.
>calls me autist.
Pretty ironic, rabid fanboys. But it's not like console warrior like you can actually care about any argument.

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>>379944978
>I'M NOT A CORPORATE SHILL, EXCEPT FOR SONY
woooow

>>379944924
How are you retards missing this? THEY DON'T WANT PC GAMERS TO BUY ONE

>>379944978
Or that most people didn't already have Windows 10. That bot is fucking retarded.

>>379945181
>How are you retards missing this? THEY DON'T WANT PC GAMERS TO BUY ONE
Yeah, they're missing out on console sales that way. It's a retarded decision when you consider the millions of PC gamers that might want to buy an Xbox One if it had worthwhile exclusives.

>>379945181
>I'M NOT A CORPORATE SHILL, EXCEPT FOR SONY
>woooow

That's not even what was said fucking hell you're a retard LOL. It's pretty clear that anon is part of the PC gaming master race and that PS4 is the only acceptable alternate platform to own.

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Reminder that exclusives are a good thing:
>Companies fund games that wouldn't have been made otherwise as exclusives for their platforms (Bayonetta 2)
>Developing for one set hardware is easier than making a huge multiplatform release across various specifications. This allows for better optimization and better graphics due to the developer's sole focus. "Coding to the metal" as it were (https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/436147033829687296)
>Exclusives give each platform their own identity and breeds more competition. Just think of how distinct the late 90's PC, Saturn, PS1, and N64 libraries were to each others
>Exclusives can take advantage of unique features to the hardware, such as MGS1. Some games even go as far to the point where the game suffers dramatically if ported to other hardware (999)
>Homogenization is bad.

Prove me wrong.

>>379945181
How are you retard missing this? PC is a stronger xbox competitor thanks to that "brilliant strategy", in a period when pc marketing is only growing growing.

>>379945340
>"hurr durr, why would Microsoft market to pc gamers and make profit putting games on pc, when they just couldn't and hope they buy an overrated piece of plastic"

You sound retarded. It's not about console sales, it's sales in total. They see the pc market and are reaching out to it. How do you not understand this

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>>379945591
Microsoft makes profit from that, you ignorant Neanderthal. especially if more people buy from the Windows store.

I can't take this stupidity

>>379945181
>THEY DON'T WANT PC GAMERS TO BUY ONE
While, as I said, I could buy a PS4 and then spend my money on their games. Truly brilliant marketing that will kill sony forever.

>>379945653
They're reaching out to the PC Market by giving people no incentive to go out and buy their console, that's the fucking problem.

Sure, they might get a few more sales by porting all their exclusives to Windows 10, but they would quite easily be making more money if they kept those games exclusive to their console and therefore giving people a reason to actually shell out $300+ for a console. Imagine if Nintendo suddenly started porting all their exclusives to PC, Switch sales would plummet since people wouldn't have a reason to buy the console.

>>379934669

Its not a bad thing at all and its actually great for devs.

They get that sweet exclusive up front money while still getting to release their game on pc.

Its a win win because if their game doesnt sell they cant blame the xbone because the game is on pc.

>>379945958
They're gonna lose way more money from hardware sales, especially since they have this retarded strategy of bringing out a new "half-gen" console every 2 years and that 90% of gamers don't spend near close to that amount in game sales alone over that same period.

What you're looking at, my friend, is Microsoft fucking up and losing a ton of money.

>>379941719
Those are on PC.

>>379946278

Still doesnt explain why its bad for gamerrs you sony shill.

Where is all this sympathy for Microsfts well being coming from all of a sudden? You reality shouldn't worry about a company that is literally made out of gold plated money.

>>379945958
You keep saying that like it was a magic spell that can turn your idiocy into something smart, but, sorry, you are clearly a wizard but your spells don't work. It's fucking pathetic how you are overestimating that shitty service while ignoring the damage hardware sales will take. Buying a console is certain profit for them, people buying a pc because that console isn't actually desirable doesn't mean that they will use that shitty service as much as they need. And many of the games we saw in the conference will even go on steam. Congratulations.
Anyway, I love how you trying to ignore that the main point was how fucking laughable their conference was, you are clearly nothing more than a disgusting dishonest fanboy.

>>379947337
I don't have sympathy for them, I'm just saying their strategy is fucking retarded.

>Still doesnt explain why its bad for gamerrs you sony shill.
Don't even own a PS4 nigger.

>>379945529
>suffers dramatically if ported to other hardware (999)
Wait, what happened.

>>379937231
Different guy, but I bought a console specifically to play games with casual friends who don't have gaming PCs.

>>379947337
>Still doesnt explain why its bad for gamerrs
I already pointed out that nobody said that.
>you sony shill.
Don't get so desperate, please.
>Where is all this sympathy for Microsfts
As I said we are just making fun of them, and that fact clearly really makes you fucking mad, you crazy fanboy.

>>379948141
Their strategy isn't retarded, unlike your dumb ass they realize most people buy consoles not gaming PCs. You act like this is going to remove hundreds of thousands of sales. 8 game sales on Windows 10 is a console. Casual consumers don't buy PCs they will buy a shitty console since PC costs too much, while they buy another console to replace their first shitty one. Also Microsoft is far more interested in getting windows 10 machines in every household. Any money they lose on Xbox would be made up by Surface sales, now whether some Sky net type shit is going to happen once everyone is on Windows 10 who knows but it seems to be what they are focusing on.

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>>379949440
>Their strategy isn't retarded, unlike your dumb ass they realize most people buy consoles not gaming PCs.
Steam has hundreds of millions of daily users. This isn't 2007, PC Gaming is fucking huge now.
>You act like this is going to remove hundreds of thousands of sales.
It easily is when Microsoft is giving millions upon millions of consumers, who already own PCs, no incentive to buy their console.
>8 game sales on Windows 10 is a console.
8 full $60 games. Considering the average attach rate for a console is like 2.4 games, the average consumer is never going to purchase that many
>Casual consumers don't buy PCs they will buy a shitty console since PC costs too much,
You're underestimating how big PC Gaming is again.
> while they buy another console to replace their first shitty one.
People usually don't buy more than one console per generation from one company. Just look at how poorly the PS4 Pro is selling, people aren't upgrading when they just purchased their PS4 less than 3 years ago.
>Also Microsoft is far more interested in getting windows 10 machines in every household.
Because Microsoft isn't a gaming-first company.
> Any money they lose on Xbox would be made up by Surface sales, now whether some Sky net type shit is going to happen once everyone is on Windows 10 who knows but it seems to be what they are focusing on.
That's like saying it's okay the PS4 is selling so poorly because Sony's TV business is booming. That's a fucking retarded argument.