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What are some truly challenging games? Hard mode: No artificial

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What are some truly challenging games?
Hard mode: No artificial difficulty or making the game tedious by having no checkpoints etc.
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>>379887389

Starcraft is the most challenging game because it's real time strategy, unit and resource management, and forethought.

No RTS has been made on Starcraft's caliber in almost 20 years.
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>>379887830
Are we talking about PVP or Player vs AI here?
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>>379887830
*farts*
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Kingdom Hearts 2FM level 1.
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TIS-100.

Hell, half the stuff by Zachtronics.
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>>379887389
What is this some kind of mod?
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>>379889815
Back in the day CSGO in Germany had black blood (currently in Chinese CSGO the case) and people just surrendered instead of dying

Look up the "-lv" console command
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