http://gonintendo.com/stories/28228 8-fifa-18-switch-uses-cu

>>379869184
After reading this interview I'm worried about how Unreal 4 is going to scale to handheld specs. Have a feeling we'll be getting lots of custom engines in order to accommodate the dock/undocked changes

>>379869184
it'll make the eu market for them

As much as we love to shit on EA, this sounds like a decent port with effort put into it.

>switch is so shit they need to make a whole new engine to get their game to run on it
defend this

>>379869394
Unreal 4 is incredibly scalable, and has recently completed full non-beta Switch support. It's literally just a matter of turning the settings down.
I can't speak to other engines, but Unreal 4 shouldn't be a concern.

>>379869394
custom engines are a good thing, but the draw is that they require effort to make which in turn might turn some devs away from porting their games

>>379869394
nintendo themselves use unreal. presumably the scaling is as simple as it is for VR.

>>379869606
at least they didn't reuse the last gen engine.

>>379869683
The last gen engine would probably also struggle on switch.

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>>379869184
This is what happens when you go from PowerPC to ARM. If it sells well then expect EA games powered by Frostbite in the future.

>>379869740
Why do you say that? There's no question that Switch outperforms the PS360.

>>379869641
if the game is on PC or otherwise crossplatform, presumably the porting effort is minimal. at that point there shouldn't be anything tied to specific graphical settings that would be hard to work out.

>Thoughts?

It's fifa, who gives a shit?

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>>379869184
I hope this game does well, so EA ports NHL over to the Switch

>>379869740
It ran well on Wii U.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYrP7nVAuXs
Anyway, they've said that they're targeting 60fps with this new engine.

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>>379869606
>a handheld is not going to be equivalent to the stationary console versions

wow what a shocker

>>379869641
I get that they're a good thing, but for portability and quick releases, it could ve a detriment.

Just goon out loud. If EA decide that the best course of action is to customise an undisclosed engine rather than half assedly porting over Frostbite, I'd say it's a little worrying for third parties going forward.

TSUUUUUUUU

>>379869394
>After reading this interview I'm worried about how Unreal 4 is going to scale to handheld specs.
Don't. Epic has already said its a non-issue for UE4.

>>379869871
oh so now it's considered a handheld

Soccer blows who cares

>>379869959
It literally is. Tell me a single aspect of the Switch that warrants the "home console" tag.

>>379870063
The game's price tag.

>>379869887
>If EA decide that the best course of action is to customise an undisclosed engine rather than half assedly porting over Frostbite, I'd say it's a little worrying for third parties going forward.
For some reason DICE is the only team that can work on Frostbite. Frostbite can run on last gen consoles and shit-tier PCs, so I'm confident that this is not due to technical limitations, but rather a lack of confidence in the platform and a refusal to commit resources prematurely. You'll note that this is EA's only Switch game. This is the test case, if it fails, EA will probably abandon Switch support.

>>379869184
>actually trying to make a decent port for a nintendo console instead of shitting something out with zero effort and blaming the hardware after the fact

what the fuck timeline have i stumbled into?

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>>379869887
>>379869830
the switch was deemed as "easy to port to", so I assume that despite requiring custom engines to use its hardware well it should soften the effort needed. but then again I'm a tech illiterate when it comes to porting code so I'm just talking out my ass here

>>379869184
It's a port of the PS3 version.

>>379870132
so it's a handheld with full fledged games. did you not see the thread you're in?

>>379870132
So $5 indie titles from Steam are what? iOS apps?

>>379870143
At least this time isn't some scrap port like ME3. But even then, If switch keeps selling it going put Publishers on a corner.

>>379870276
It's not. What's much more likely is that it's based on Fifa '15 and '16 for PS4/Boner. They did have Fifa optimized for current gen on another engine before they Switched to frostbite.

>>379870279
No it's a console.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-4-16-released

>Support for Nintendo Switch is fully-featured and ready for production in 4.16! Epic Games has teamed up with Nintendo to release the full UE4 source code for Nintendo Switch to approved developers for free.

THANK YOU BASED NVIDIA, NINTENDO & EPIC

>>379869959
it always was by those of us who are non-delusional.

it's basically a much better Vita, with game support and a console dock.

>>379870284
yes?

>>379870452
handheld console.
honest loyalty.

>>379870513
Is Sega Nomad a home console because it plays only full priced Sega Genesis games?

>>379870657
No it's a home console that you can also bring anywhere.

>>379870719
that you can hold in your hand.

>>379870251
Nintendo is famous for using 4-10 year old processors in their devices. They like working on antiquated, well-understood hardware, even though it puts them at odds with the entire rest of the industry. The Wii and Wii U were both running PowerPC processors a decade after every other consumer electronics manufacturer had abandoned IBM silicon. So it's significant that the Switch uses off-the-shelf Nvidia hardware that premiered in late 2015. That means it has all the modern features that developers are used to working with for every other platform. It's no longer a huge chore to port to Nintendo's decade-old technology, they're back up to par.

>>379870396
That's probably what's going to happen next year, but we used a straight port of the PS3 version this year because we got the Dev kits like 3 months ago

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http://gonintendo.com/stories/282295-ea-doesn-t-see-why-need-for-speed-payback-couldn-t-run-on-switch
>"I love the Switch; I absolutely adore it. Would that be a platform that Need for Speed: Payback could run on? I don't see why [not], but it's not something we're looking to at this very moment."

What did he mean by this?

>>379869394
???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wBvsx84Dys

>>379870694
of course it is, are you fucking retarded?

>>379870912
PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR NO.

>>379870912
We are too lazy to port.

>>379869184
translations:
>it's a legacy version that we backported features to.

>>379870143
Seems strange they'd go to all that hassle if not to move forward at least with the Fifa series.

Later in the interview he talks about the engine being a groundwork. Maybe the idea is they make a solid base to drop assets and updated rosters in to in FIFA 19

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>>379870912
>I don't see why [not]
>[not]

>>379870063
The fact that you need to be tethered to a power source because it has a two and a half hour battery life

>>379870143
>For some reason DICE is the only team that can work on Frostbite.
It's because they made Frostbite too specific around their own needs. Bioware noted that they had to customize the damn thing to get their games where they wanted them them at and they still suffered problems. Notably around animation where they had to duct tape a fix in (think of the Inquisition and Andromeda animation threads).

>>379870904
>we

I don't give a shit about story in sports games but I appreciate the effort you put into this version. I'm buying >your game, anon.

>>379871198
That's just a meme biased non argument

>>379870912
>We're still mad about Nintendo not using Origin for the Wii U eShop.

>>379870143
>Frostbite can run on last gen consoles and shit-tier PCs, so I'm confident that this is not due to technical limitations,
Last gen consoles and shit-tier PCs aren't tegras.

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>>379870904
>I work for EA Vancouver
Pics or it didn't happen.

>>379871212
Cheers, I want to be employed next year. Just wait for the comparisons when the game launches, the switches hardware is fully capable of running the pre-frostbite PS4 version, we just didn't have time to port those over since we were already done with the PS3 stuff.

>>379871319
New Tegras have modern GPU featuresets. The obstacle here, I would assume, is porting to ARM. It's not a matter of whether they can, it's a matter of whether they want to invest the time and money. Which they clearly don't, not right now.

>>379869608

So a FF7 remake on switch could be possible ?

>>379869184
>we couldn't run Fifa 18 so you will get downgraded version of Fifa 13 from ps3 but with a different title

>>379871593
Assuming that Squeenix don't give a bunch of half arsed excuse that "it can't run" yes.

It don't even need downgrade that much, even just lowering the res or particle effects would be enough.

>>379871781
It would depend if squeenex is locked into their version of the engine. It was only recently that ue4 updated for switch support. And upgrading might break existing assets

>>379871698

>I was proven wrong, so I'll keep spamming the same thing

>>379870904
>we got the Dev kits like 3 months ago
EA announced Fifa 18 Switch Edition 5 months ago. I wouldn't put anything past Nintendo, but failing to provide hardware to the one of the biggest companies in the industry who is actually announcing games for your platform at the time seems ludicrously foolish. You sure you work for EA, son?

>>379871859
The point it, It can run.

Switch isn't going run shit at 4k but also isn't that weak. Long as devs actually tweak and optimize the games they are going look fine as PS4/Xbone.

>>379872280
It's the only FIFA experience you'll be able to get handheld, were still working on optimization atm.

>>379869184

Will Nintendo be allowed to do a commercial for FIFA, or does Sony pay for some kind of exclusivity? If they can do it then the Nintendo commercial writes itself and will sell like crazy.

>>379872480
He's talking about Square Enix and FF7, please stop pretending to be an EA dev for a sec.

>>379870719
home console that you can play anywhere is a contradiction. "console that you can play anywhere" is literally what a handheld is.

>>379873085
Nintendo proves you wrong.

>>379872591
my bad, on mobile.

Yeah the verdict is still out of nintendo wants to shell out the money for ff7 (or if sony has some deal with them, like how nintendo did with bayonetta2)

>>379869184
>/v/ tries to spin the fact that the switch is an underpowered turd into a positive
Oh I love this episode

>>379873295
Generally Sony throw gorillions on mainline FF to shill it.

I think that would be up to squeenix, but seeing that they are keeping silent about DQ on switch looks like Sony is holding them by the balls.

>>379869184
>They obviously didn't get DICE to port the Frostbite engine
that's odd, I mean it worked fine on PS3/X360

Should have used it for Zelda Breath of the 20fps.

>>379873612

DQ11 was announced on switch ( project NX at the time ) from the start.

Why are people suddenly forgetting that ?

>>379874640
After which it was quickly retracted, and they haven't mentioned it since

They were asked about it recently and commented that their are "adult reasons" behind why they can't talk about it, which could mean really anything. Until they say what's going on, we can only speculate.

>>379873295
>industry insider
>Nintendo had "some kind of dead with Bayo 2
Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the industry understands that Nintendo funded Bayonetta 2's development from top to bottom.

>>379869184

Big draw of FIFA is the online aspect of it. It's quite odd that in a series that sells millions upon millions every year, the single player is generally ignored, and plenty of die hard players actually consider it to be shit. If the online is a shadow of what you get on PS4/Bone and to a lesser extent, PC, it might really damage Nintendo's chances to be a viable sports vidya platform.

t. /sp/ anon who dislikes 90% of fifa gamemodes but plays pro clubs mode religiously with a 4chan club. It's the only game I ever preorder. My darkest secret

>>379874964
They funded a portion of it. If you read the credits, Sega Nintendo And Platinum are all copyright owners.

>>379874905
>After which it was quickly retracted, and they haven't mentioned it since
You reconfirmed it a few months ago.

>>379874905
Probably means the Switch version is west only

>>379869184

By custom built they mean "our modern engine will not run properly on this outdated hardware so we're going to strip it to bare bones so it'll run on this Fischer Price excuse for a system".

>>379875513
It could, especially if Nintendo was doing the localizing job

I really doubt that though

>Without 60 frames per second, you wouldn't be able to enjoy the game.
Why can't more developers be this sensible?

>>379876474
because it's genre dependent.