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DEAD ON ARRIVAL
holyshit, Xbox one all over.
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>>379852289
Gonna go old-school here and say *ahem*
Link or it didn't happen
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>>379852437

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/873920094346162176
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>>379852508
Thanks, anon. Well if it's as strong as we're lead to believe and actually GETS games that aren't all cancelled it might do fine.
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>>379852289
Still cheaper than the ps3 at launch.

If it lives up to the flops boasting then that is more than a fair price.
That being said I don't know who is going to buy this and what there will be to play besides shooty bang bang vroom vroom and kickball.
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four
hundred
ninety
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>>379852659
Also have a feeling MS didn't want this info leaked ahead of their conference. Probably wanted it to be a surprise
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But what if something cha?
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Is Geoff Keighley, dare I say it, /ourguy/?
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But thats a good price.
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>>379853032

Shh, sonybros are trying to troll.
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I paid as much for my last graphics card, are you poor or something xbone gamers?
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>>379852289
>$499
YIKES!
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I USED TO RULE THE WORLD
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>>379852289
>The Scorpio is $499 unless it isn't
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>>379852704
Don't forget the hand gestures!
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>>379853193
>Kotaku
disgusting.
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>>379853032
>>379853136
>>379853186
fucking richies get out.
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>>379852289

Microsoft paid Keighley to tweet this. The actual price is $399 and this will make it come as a "shock". Just look at the way he worded it too.
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>>379852659
>if it's as strong as we're lead to believe

If it were an actual next gen console I'd agree with you

But this is just a high spec Xbone, and comes with all the baggage of the Xbone.
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FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE

US DOLLARS
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>>379852289
Thats a reasonable price.
Why is everyone being retarded?
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>>379852289
If they're dumb enough to price it like that it will sell less than the ouya
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>>379853479
Exactly. Jeff is a man for hire. He's shown that time and time again.
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>>379853465

I have a PC with a gtx 980ti, a PS4, and I am saying that if the scorpio can live up to a $499 price tag, I will buy it
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>>379853587

You would buy an Xbone, right now, for 500 dollars? You think the exclusive library is robust enough to justify spending that much to play Halo in 4k?
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>>379853032
$499 for games dependent on Devs to give 4k scaling features. For games that won't surpass the threshold on PC gaming quality.

No new games in the next coming year worth an exclusive purchase, no new franchises worth getting into xbone for.

I'll say it again, if Microsoft didn't focus on putting 2.5 Billion dollars into Minecraft, and instead put it into the development of its gaming brand, things wouldn't have turned out like this.

But Xbone is the butt of this current generation and constantly making the wrong moves. No Scorpio titles will be exclusive, Sony had their PSVR mistake, Microsoft has Scorpio.
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>>379852289
>499$ for a console that is equivalent to a 2000$ PC

and this is somehow bad ? are you literally retarded ?
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$499
....

.........

599 FOR CANADA
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>>379853479
Typical M$ marketing. Just like the article that came out about a week ago saying they unlocked another 1GB of RAM for developers. This was the plan all along but coming out and saying they "unlocked shit" is a good news-worthy story.
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>>379853936

Not him, but I would buy it for $499 as a 4k gaming machine that runs at 60fps.
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>>379853936
I am only considering the tech amd the cost of manufacture. For what is in it the price point is reasonable.

Faggots like you just don't want to pay what things are worth.
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>>379854028
>>379854209
LEL

Make it less obvious
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>>379853479
Possibly, although dorito pope will take a credibility dip if that's what goes down
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>>379854343

Why can't I like something?
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>>379854253
>I am only considering the tech amd the cost of manufacture.

Then you're looking at it in a vacuum, which from a consumer standpoint is utterly meaningless.

It doesn't matter how good the tech to price ratio is if you have no fucking games. I'm not spending $500 for Crackdown and Halo.
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>>379854343
>hating on something objectively good and shilling sony is ok
>being reasonable is somehow not ok

really made me think anon
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>>379854429
Why would you like a piece of shit
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>>379854037
Canada uk and aus will get fucked over as usual, Microsoft hates Anglo
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>>379854573

You don't know its one yet
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>>379854028
>a console that is equivalent to a 2000$ PC

'lol'
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>>379853960
>Xbox is the butt of this current gen
>Xbone 30 million consoles sold
>Wiiu 13 million consoles sold
Technically the Xbone has outsold the Switch and Wiiu combined thus far.
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>>379852289
Oh fuck, are we going to see the reprise of XBone's original announcement?

>price revealed
>background audience is cheering
>audience proper is dead fucking silent
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>>379854632
then build me a PC that can run true 4k at stable 60FPS that also has a high quality BluRay drive to watch 4k movies.
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>>379853186
That's the point though. I won't be buying it regardless of price, but why would I spend 500 bucks on a console when I can just buy a nice pc and play the same games with better performance? Because consoles are dying that's why. People with any sense by a pc
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>>379853920
>owning two consoles
Why?
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/v/ would complain whatever the price was

Shut the fuck up about this
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>>379854532
That's just you stupid opinion.
Not considering cost is idiotic. Comes are always an investment for future games.
Console sales are how they get future games.

Even at that price I bet they are selling at a loss.
You are just an entitled pricl
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>>379852289
looks like a good deal
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>>379854960
>LUL TOO EXPENSIVE
>LUL TOO CHEAP, LOW QUALITY
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>>379854873
>that can run true 4k at stable 60FPS

Good thing there's no chance of Scorpio doing that either, or they come up with some dumbass catch like everything else is set to low/medium
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>>379854996

Spencer please, you have a conference to get ready for.
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>>379852289
sony.cucks in full damage control :')
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>>379854028
I would find that hard to do if you had to start with a 1070 and a 30 dollar cpu.

Now you have 1600 left over for case, power supply, motherboard, and ram.
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>>379854960
keep the cunt on /bant/ please
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>>379854028
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>>379852437
>*ahem*
kys reddit
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>>379854761

Wiiu is definitely the loser of this gen but if you put a gun to my head and made me buy one of the two I'd pick the wiiu. With wiiu at least name 5 exclusives that I want to play.
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>>379852289
Xbox PD: KILL MY VIDEO GAME COMPANY SENPAI
-Say no more $499
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>>379852289
The xbone launched at that price and it has done well so far. I can see it work
I would've bought it at launch if it was $400, so I'll just wait for price drop. If it launches with a Crackdown 3 bundle I might also bite since the game is $60
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it's @399 you fucking idiots.

Dissappoint us now and then BAM ! suprise us with $399 annopuncement at the conference.
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>>379855180
the specific hardware doesnt matter because consoles are way more optimized than a PC. and I doubt you can build a PC that runds true 4k with 60FPS with a BluRay drive for under 1000$ anon. also dont forget the form factor it has to be small enough so that you can travel with it.
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>>379854960
It's just Ponies being butthurt that their #ForTheShareholders machine is outpowered 2:1 by a console that costs a mere 100$ more.
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Didn't have ps4, bought PS4 Pro.
Didn't have xbox one, will buy the XCancer.
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>>379853936
People bought a PS3 for $599 despite having nogaems until 2009.
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>>379852289
if PS pro gets a price cut MS will be dead
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That's still way too high, I imagine. Normies are gonna see the scorpio at $500 then the slim at $250 and go "jeez, easy choice".

If you think normies will for a second be willing to overlook the price because it looks better, well, I refer you to the PS4pro.
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>>379852289
Basic version for sure.
Adding more NEEDED memory = 600.

Still, 4k on consoles is a meme, and developers will be forced to scale quality for the less powerful console nonetheless.
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>>379855180
>>379855180
1070 owner here, no, you can't do 4k 30FPS on that card, at least not if you want to play on Ultra or high settings.
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>>379852289
Better than the $600 that most people expected. If they hit the power they aimed for it should easily be $600 since a pc of equal power would be $600 as well. Scorpios biggest benefit will be all of those cheap tricks to get games to UHD that a pc of $600 couldn't do.
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>>379855193
I don't get it, why did you crop her panties?
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>>379855221
>kys
drink bleach
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>>379854873
just like the PS4Pro? LOL
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>>379852289
>/v/ is always wrong
>15 simultaneous 'scorpio is fucked' threads
so glad it will do alright
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>>379854937
>Owning anything at all
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>>379855539
you know why
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>>379855551
They look the same, 3fps is nothing to write home about.
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>>379855540
>drink bleach
Stick my foot up your ass until it comes out your mouth.
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>>379852289
>No games.
>Still increases the price of the new console.

What will people even use it for?
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>>379855614
No, I don't.
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>>379855669
Multiplat games and the Microsoft exclusives that are also on Windows 10 but all the PCfags refuse to buy because "MUH BOTNET!! WINDOWS STORE SUUCKUS!!"
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>poorfriends
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>>379855619
3 FPS does matter when you're talking about a non-variable refresh rate display. Since TVs don't have that, and neither does the PS4, you're going to get stutter or screen tearing if you drop below a multiple of 60.
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>>379852289
>most powerful console ever
>actually does 4k native[if they didnt lie]
>only 499 US DOLLARS
How is this bad, ps4pro was 400 US DOLLARS, so you pay 100 extra US DOLLARS and get native 4k.
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>>379854761
>30 million shipped
ftfy

MS stopped giving out sold-through numbers years ago. They've shipped 30 million Xbones, and millions are still on shelves and in warehouses. Estimates put it at 14-15m sold when MS said they had shipped 23m, its nowhere near 30m sold.
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>>379855713
>meat and potatoes
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>>379852437
>>379852508
His Twitter account isn't secret. Search for it on Google next time, faggot.
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>>379853936
A $500 machine that can play games at 4k 60 frames is a steal. Now as for whether or not the Scorpio is actually capable of that, we'll see.
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>>379855851
>actually does 4k native

Console kiddies will believe anything, even when they told them a APU could do 4k.
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>499 dollars
>For no games
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>>379855985
>60 frames
30 with drops
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>>379855889
shh. Let the anon dream.
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For what it is, that's great value. It isn't PS4 Pro. It's substantially more powerful. Premium product. S is $199.
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>>379855985
>muh 4k
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>>379856062
Sauce?
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>>379852289
Small price to pay for greatness. Halo is going to be freakng epic on this beast of a machine.
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>>379852289
>500 burgers + tax for consoleshit
>plus 60/yr just to play online
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>>379856117
>Halo
meme
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>>379856117
Just like the last 2 games right?
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>>379856070
But no one wants a premium product, they want something affordable. This will sell like garbage, there are next to no games to justify this cost that people can't get on a $200 base Xbone or PS4, and they'll still run like shit on the new console anyway because games sell on graphics, not performance.
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>499 dollars
>For a shit PC when you can play all their "exclusives" on a real PC
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>>379853008
He always has been.
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>mfw it's the console players that have to upgrade every few years
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>>379856114
Common sense.

Where's your source, then?
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>>379856412
Battlefront 2 & Forza 7 are 4k 60fps confirmed
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>>379855092
I have no intention of buying am Xbox.
I am just reasonable unlike you
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>>379856275
Halo 5 was pretty good.
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>>379856412
>Common sense.
>source

my brain thinks it so it is
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>>379852289

Wait wait wait... Is the Scorpio a new console? Or is it a Xbox One upgrade?
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If it runs battlefront at 4k 60 fps I'm getting one.

PS4 PRO has been a huge disappointment and my 4k tv needs content.
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>>379856332
>we can play all your games on pc haha
>WH-WHAT? I WILL NEVER INSTALL THIS WINDOWS 10 BOTNET!!! WINDOWS STORE SUUCKS!! GARBAGE!! I LOVE MY STEAM PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH GABEN!
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>>379856576
T. Microsoft intern
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>>379852289
What exclusive (actual exclusive, no PC bullshit) would it take for you to get a Scorpio?
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>>379855382
>for under 1000$
The original comparison price you stated was $2000. You're not getting out of this one, buddy.
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Xbone ONE sold 1 million console at launch with the $500 Price.

/v/ on suicide watch
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>>379856412
Source? for what? I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying where's your evidence to back up your claim.
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>>379853512
This is what I don't understand. How are people being fooled by this shit? They're acting like it's practically going to be their next gen but that they're "generous" enough that they're still going to allow players to play the newer games even on the old Xbone but with lower settings. What's actually happening is this is the same fucking thing as PS4pro but with slightly more power so it comes off as this awkward half step between generations that costs as much as if it were a brand new console. How is anybody falling for this shit?
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>>379856653
>Halo 5 was pretty good.
hahaha no
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>>379856785
If 343 would make halo games worth playing I would consider getting it
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>>379856756
I have window 10. But I have 2 SSD to dual boot. I mean you are not poor right?
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Unlesss it has a boost mode, jap developers will still just release their games with low settings at 900p.

The only reason I would get this is too play KH3 at the hgihest possible quality, but I doubt Se will create a separate skew for the game.
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>>379852289
So is the Scorpio a new console or something. ?
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>>379856937
You need a 1080 ti to play 4k + 30fps
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Not that bad

xbox 360 launched at $400 in 2005 which is $500 in modern money. I don't see an issue, I don't want weak hardware like the ps4 pro.
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>post yfw you're not a Micro$hit
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>>379857275
If you care about hardware you'd get a PC
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>>379857508
I have a 1070 rig but my friends play on xbone so an xbone that plays games at decent res and framerate is a dream come true.

Playing battlfield 1 at fucking 900p shit was awful.
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>>379856958
The initial claim was that all games will be native 4K and 60fps, so I'm asking for a source on that.

Most games onPS4/Xbone are 30fps, I see no reason to believe this will be any different. Better hardware has so far generally meant fancier graffix the console can't really handle, not better performance.

>>379856692
See above, shitposter-kun.
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>>379856653
>No spiltscreen
>No local co-op
>No BTB or forge at launch
>BTB is still shit with forge-made maps
>Warzone
>Microtransactions
lolno
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>most powerful console ever made
>zero exclusives and multiplats already available on PC

Phil Spencer is a cool guy and he's trying his best to fix up the sinking ship Mattrick left behind him with stuff like backwards compatibility but it just isn't enough
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>>379857275
360 was reasonably powerful when it launched, not 5 years behind.
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>>379852865
They wanted the crowd to bust into laughter during their conference? Nah, they leaked this themselves.
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>>379857353
Yeah youre just a big shit
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>>379854593
That's below par for CAD...
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>>379857353
I am exclusively a Sony consumer. Wish all of /v/ was as smart as I am. Playstation is all that matters in 2017.
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>>379857875
Yeah all the normies are buying gaming PCs now to play Forza Horizon 3 in the Windows Store.

Wake up, normies don't care and will continue to buy it.
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>>379852865
>Also have a feeling MS didn't want this info leaked ahead of their conference. Probably wanted it to be a surprise
On the contrary, they know it is expensive so they don't want anyone to audibly gasp on live stream. Leaking the price early meant the reveal would be muted and far less explosive on social media.
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>>379857614
So you already had bad experiances with Xbone and the only reason you are spending half thousand dollars on a machine you will barely use is "friends"?
Kys you sheep
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>>379858335
Because the bad stuff has been fixed you mong
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>>379858157
>normies are going to shell out $500 to play FIFA at a slightly higher resolution

The system is obviously geared at enthusiasts and Sony are already out in front as far as Joe Soap is concerned
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Even if it's a lie and it costs 399 it will be DOA.

Scorpio is Samoa Joe and PS4 Brock Lesnar, you can't defeat the beast.
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>>379858468
ah yes, you know that because the console hasn't been released yet.
Enjoy your 9 games pleb
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>>379857875
Crossbuy
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>>379857864
>No spiltscreen
>No local co-op
I haven't played it but man, this kind of shit kills any interest I had in it.
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>>379858543
You think games on Scorpio will be 900p? Neck yourself
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>>379852289
A bit disappointing like the Switch price reveal but I'll still get one if the announcements are good.
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>>379857021
>>379857864
>they haven't played Halo 5 so they have to regurgitate others' opinions so they can fit in
Your loss
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>>379858335
>I have no friends and will never understand this

Yeah sorry bout that bud.
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check out my new build
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>>379858670
A cool idea in theory until you realize that the list of games supported by it is fairly small and that the PC version is linked to their bullshit proprietary store literally nobody buys from because Steam has already existed for the past 5 years
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>>379854593
More like Canada killed it's economy, UK is okay with butt rape from Muslims and VAT, aus taxes are stupid.
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>>379852289
THIS IS A FALSE FLAG.

THE PRICE WILL BE 399.

THIS IS SO WE GO IN WITH HIGHTENED EXPECTATION.

DON'T BELIEVE THIS KIKE.
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>>379852289
>tfw it will be 499 euro too
>499 usd =/= 499 euro
>499usd is 446 eur

Boy
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>>379859000
>Ryzen
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>>379852289

People buy VR headsets for more than $500, PSVR with the required accessories and games come out to like $450.

People will absolutely buy this.
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>>379859000
>DVD drive is nearly half the price of the GPU
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All the plebs itt baka
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>>379859348
>People buy VR headsets
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>>379856756

No one uses WIndows 10 store. Also, the Xbone guy should already be covered in feces for paying for multiplayer.
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>$500 for halo and forza
why are people defending this
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>>379859162
A 7700K would be better, but a ryzen beats out i5's on average, especially in value.
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>>379859659
Forza is available on PC and people can still buy the Xbone one slim for 200 dollar if the want halo.
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If it's as advertised and they pull their fingers out and get some fucking games that's not a bad price at all.
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>>379853465
Sorry buddy, no poors allowed.
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>>379859000
>Ryzen
>1050Ti
>Optical drive in 2017
>No SATA HDD
>Puny 250 giblets of SSD
>All for just $1000!

son
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>$500 for a machine that can handle current gen games at native 4K

what's the problem exactly?
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>>379857180
No, you don't.
A 1080 Ti would be for 4k at 60+ FPS.
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BUT IF it can do true 4k with 60fps that's not bad
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>>379860237
The general public don't view it that way. It could do 8K 240fps, but if it costs more than $500, good luck selling a game console.
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>>379860324
You can lul
If high end PC has trouble to do 4K60fps.
It's going to be 4k30fps at best.
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>>379853587

not when you have to pay for online, it isnt
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>>379860450
You can't i mean
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>>379860381
Nah, with the specs and features this thing has I think once normies see it set up using a nice TV in a store somewhere they'll understand how superior the hardware is. The adaptive frame sync is a huge feature.
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When the PS3 got announced it cost $599, with inflation that's around $730. $499 isn't all that bad considering.
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>>379852289
Should be $299 at most. Consoles are children's toys after all.
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If it's really 500 then MS is fucked long term.

Especially if the rumors of the pro dropping to 300 are true. MS wont be able to make up a 200 dollar difference with parents.
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>>379860570
To really show off the console, they should show 1080p60 content, but with insanely nice visual settings. 4K is hard to market unless you're really close to the TV.
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It could be $150 and people wouldn't buy it. The price isn't the issue.
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>>379854937
>being a console warrior
Why?
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>>379854028
>2000$ PC '''''''''''equivelant''''''''''''''''
>Jaguar CPU
enjoy those slideshows xfriend
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pffffffffft
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Now watch them go back on their promise to bring back split screen in Halo 6 because the Scorpio can't handle it at 4K.
Fucking calling it.
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>>379855851
>[if they didnt lie]
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>>379852289
Thats not that bad, i play on pc so i wont buy one but consoles will get more expensive the more high end they get and normies don't care about specs to dollar ratio so they will buy it.

Next console generation I'm betting they will be at 600 or 700 bucks a console.
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>>379853960
nintendo is the butt of this generation. microsoft made a series of terrifically bad decisions right out of the gate but otherwise went maximum boring and cruised off the momentum from last gen. nintendo literally shit the bed over and over until they couldn't anymore and had to actually try with the switch.

frankly, everyone is the butt of this generation aside from sony. they were so successful they literally saved the company.
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>>379855851
>[if they didnt lie]
chances are
they did
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$20 says that within 2-3 months of its launch it will be down to $449, and by 1 year after its launch down to $399. Then Microsoft will kill themselves.
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>>379860591
As far as i can tell most people didn't get into gaming until the PS3 had already been out a year or two, or they got a 360, since that had a much better launch library, also because this gen is the first time they've been old enough to buy their own consoles. The 3DO was 700 dollarydoos at launch for fuck sake.
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>>379856998
Consumerism is strong, console gamers think they need 4k. They should be asking for higher fps, not resolution. 60 fps at 1080 is better than 30 fps at 4k.
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>>379861254
That's a very safe bet m8, that's how it always happens.
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>>379861260
the fuck?

PS2 is still the highest selling console of all time, and you suggest people 'didn't get into gaming until the PS3 had already been out a year or two'?
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>>379856070
The S being $199 was an incorrect tweet. It's still $249.
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>>379861467
>what is mommy and daddy? Did you personally buy a PS2 at launch?
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>>379861467
ps2 was a cheap dvd player
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>>379861613
...yes?
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>>379858054
At least I'm not a cuck.
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>>379860745
If sony is smart with this a 100$ price drop on the pro and regular ps4 would doom xbox, and it wouldnt matter what kinda games it'll come out on the scorpio since ps4 already has the better library
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>>379861613
You do realize that not everyone here is 20, right?
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>>379860570
A normalfag isn't going to buy a $500 gaming console take it from me. Most of my friends are normalfags who refused to buy even a N3DS XL for the longest time just because it was $200. They'd probably just wait out for a price drop, or just go for a cheaper, better alternative.
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>Microsoft's new console is $499
>meanwhile, Sony's CEO said their PS5 might be around $1500-$2000

gaming is for the rich now
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>>379861613
Fucked up the greentex but you get my point, the people complaining about the price are complaining because they're new to being a tech consumer.

>>379861745
With your own money that you worked to get? If so then you're not most people. Most "gaymurs" were only adolescents when the PS2 came out, and teens when the PS3 came out. You forget that the gaming audience increases exponetially by the day and gaming is more popular that it's ever been before.
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>>379852865
This leak is intentional as fuck, so people get mad now and not during or after conference.
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>>379860745
This.

All Sony needs to do is announce a price drop for the Pro and they basically instawin.

MS pissed away 3rd party and needs more franchises than geas or halo. It won't fucking matter how powerful the scorpio is if it doesn't deliver games.
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Reminder that the new need for speed game is not 60fps on the scorpio lmao
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>>379861986
Or so they can see the initial reaction if it were to be this price
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>>379852659
Every game is also coming out on PC (thanks to MS pushing Win 10 so hard) so the power of it won't matter to enthusiasts, which at that price seems to be their target

They really fucked themselves in the ass on this one.
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>>379859348
PSVR sold 1 Million Units which is really fantastic for a new experimental technology. But it's still something that won't be mainstream for another several years.

Remember when Smartphone pretty much meant Blackberrys and we only owned by business people and tech types? That's where VR is right now.
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>>379854028

(you)'re not on the Youtube comments section.
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As an idort, thats a good price considering my PC costs more and isn't able to achieve native 4K for newer games. Don't care for it but good on them
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>>379862283
Your PC must be old considering an RX 480 can achieve native 4k in newer games.
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>>379862283
a pc is like owning a vehicle whereas a console is like owning a bus pass
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>>379862105
>thanks to MS pushing Win 10 so hard
There are people who would rather buy a console than to downgrade to Windows 10. Some of us use our PCs for more than just games.
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thats like $600+ in canada, nintendo and microsoft can go suck a fucking dick
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>>379862542
Or you could just dual boot like someone who actually uses their PC for more than just games, but sure, lying works too.
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>>379862283
I play at this resolution on my 480 and that cost me 300 bucks.
Don't own a 4K monitor but I could do that too.
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>>379853479
>unless something changes

yeah a well-known person and presenter doing this is fishy af, played like a fiddle
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Oh boy, a $500 console that can run games in native 4k with the average framerate being somewhere between 20-30fps. Sounds like a blast, thanks microsoft.
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>"oh shit, e3 is startingc
>"let's check out my ol' hangout, /v/"
>4 threads of shitposting about the price of an optional premium console
>mfw

not sure what I expected
>>
Is this really surprising?

Microsoft had no problems releasing a $150 controller.

They don't seem to have an issue with premium products.
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>>379861691
PS2 was the successor to the PS1 and had excellent games.
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>>379852289
>499 console
>5 actual games total
even ripoff 100 in 1 nes cartridges had more actual games lol
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>>379852289
xfags on sucide watch!
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>>379856314
>no one wants a premium product, they want something affordable
I guess that's why apple is failing right?
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>>379863407
I literally had a dream last night about how overpriced apple trash is
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>>379863407
>Apple
>Premium products
My fucking sides.
Expensive != good
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>>379863407
Apple has sold their products and ecosystem as a lifestyle.

Apple products are aspirational. Status symbols. Xbox products are not.
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>>379852289
Thank you based M$! I can now play ALL my games in FULL HIGH DEFINITION 1080p@60. It took us 10 years, but consoles are finally even with PCs!
>>
isnt geoff ruining his career by saying stuff like this? microsoft wont invite him for leaking stuff right?
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>>379853347

underrated post.
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>>379863328
The PS3 was a cheap bluray player too, i know several people who bought it because it was a lot cheaper than actual bluray players at the time. Same with the Xbone S and 4k bluray but no one really gives a shit out that.
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no way. they are committing suicide if they make it cost any more than $400. pro debuted at $400, but that was a year ago and it'll get a pricedrop.
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Reminder that checkerboard looks the same as native xcucks
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>>379863572
Except not even that, since it has a 4 years old laptop CPU that bottlenecks the whole damn thing.
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>>379852289
>have Keighley mention the price is $500 bucks
>but maybe not
>surprise it's actually only $450!
And Microsoft looks like this big generous entity whom we should all waste our money on.
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>microsoft announces at $499 today
>sony pricedrops the pro to $359 tomorrow
can you feel it!
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzDsYEPkSc4
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>>379863073
>optional premium
Buy the Xbox Pro Premium Edition™ today for only 599.99, RAM upgrade physical DLC pack sold separately, 2TB and 4TB versions available for a nominal fee. Buy your Xbox Value Pack™ today and receive one month of Xbox Live™ for FREE, (please note subsequent months available for a subscription fee of 69.99 annually or 5.99 monthly) along with 10GBs of Microsoft Cloud™ storage (please note Xbox Value is only compatible with Value™ games and may not support resolutions above 720p or the latest Play Anywhere™ titles see product packaging for details).
Become an Xbox Insider™ and get the latest console revisions and upgrade packs straight to your door for the one time monthly fee of 45.99, includes game discounts and access to pre-launch exclusive content. never Fall behind The Competition™ with Xbox Insider™ and receive one week early access to Gears of War 5™ for a limited time when you subscribe to Insider™.
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>>379863916
>Steam sale -1%
Oh, I am laffin
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>>379864110
Could see this happening
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>>379864141
I'd be ok with Sony pricedropping the PS4, since that way I'd be able to get a used slim for 100 bucks.
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i dont understand is this a bad price..?
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>>379863861
>but no one really gives a shit out that
You didn't have to buy a new tv to take advantage of bluray
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>>379864437
For a console?
Yes.
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>>379852289
Yeah, this will kill it. Not as bad as $599 for the PS3 though.
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>>379864501
But who do you know that bought it for that reason? While the PS2/3 were bought by a lot of people for that reason alone.
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>>379864437
For modern consumers maybe, but for people who have been around the block a few times it's really not all that surprising.
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>>379864110
>have Keighley mention the price is $500 bucks
>but maybe not
>surprise it's actually only $700
Maybe then I could buy into their bullshit that it can play games at 4k@30fps.
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>>379865236
>same old Jaguar CPU
It won't no matter what.
>>
>No exclusives
>Now in <<<<<<<<<true>>>>>>>>>> 4k!

lol it was dead no matter the price.
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>>379865493
Netflix
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>>379852289
>SCORPÏO 499 DOLLAR
>Expensive
Fucking NEETS. I make $1200 weekly wage-slave tho... so I don't have much time for vidya
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>>379865493
but muh crackdown 3!!!!!!!!!!
>>
Ironically the best thing Microsoft could do would be to focus on showing off as much games as possible instead of the console, because the console is nothing without the games. Microsoft have kind of dug themselves into a hole here.
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>>379865597
then why dont you fuck off?
>>
inb4
>Microsoft rapid fire announces like 10 exclusives
>xbox augmented reality
>windows 10/xbox cross play on every title
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>>379860939

>I don't want my boipucci destroyed.
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>>379865774
They and Nintendo have to give the best E3s this year. Both sides already seem to be fucking up before their events even start

Microsoft
>no Halo 6
>$499

Nintendo
>no Metroid
>focusing on games we already know of

I really don't know what the hell these two are doing.
>>
>too expensive for normies who only buys consoles for Fifa and Madden
>Enthusiasts probably already have a PC and know that this thing isnt worth it
so the only potential market are people who already own Xbones?
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>>379863361
>people were literally tripping over themselves to pay $400 for Switch
>has PS2 hardware
>one single game
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>>379860939
m going to buy an adapter that allows you to use mouse and keyboard on consoles and make the life of these people a living hell.
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>>379866059
As much as we like to joke about wanting Micro$hit to crash and burn, that's honestly all we really want.
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>>379852289
Why is it dead? Because you are poor?
The switch was 400 and it still cant be found, it has a single game and is as powerful as a dozen toasters.
If you are blowing 400 on a console, you can afford a extra 100 easy unless you are a poorfag, your not poorfags are you anons?
Pretty sure it will be crap, but thats not the prices fault.
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Anyone else fine that consoles are $500+? Years ago I couldn't imagine paying that price because I was just a teenager/in my early twenties. Now, it's like, it's reasonably priced. It's a piece of hardware that's gonna last us a good 3+ years. Idk, the price wars are not gonna matter to me at all.
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>>379866875
Switch has 2 games worth playing.
XBone/Scorpio has none.
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>>379852289

Controlled leak to serve either two purposes.

>Get any negative reactions to the price out ahead of time so it doesn't weigh down the conference

>Surprise with a $449 or lower price point at the conference and make people happy

Personally I'm thinking it's the latter. A few days ago everyone was dead set on $399 and now Microsoft could announce $449 and everyone would be thrilled.
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>>379852289
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>>379866427
That's the only market all mid-gen upgrades really have, same applied to the Pro, that and people who wait for systems to get better a better library, but they'd more than likely just buy the normal models because of the price drop. If you want the best of the best you go to PC and it'll always be that way because of upgradablity, console manufacturers need to trying to compete in a fight they're not involved in.
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>>379866875
>The switch was 400

Try 300
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>>379866875
>Brand new console
Vs
>An upgrade to an existing console with no games
Idiot.
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>>379859000
>Only 1 drive
>Only 1 GPU
>The GPU is mini sized anyways
>Buys a full sized ATX Rig soley for Rizen

downgrade the CPU to build a mini itx or micro atx. Build. There is no reason to buy a $150 case if you dont fill it out.
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>>379867029
Careful, you might cut yourself on that edge, young man.
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>>379867010
I honestly don't get how anyone bitches about the price of any gaming related thing.

Shits cheaper than its ever been.
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Would this make graphic card companies lower their price? RX 480 is $250 and Scorpio has pretty much the same device
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>>379867010
yeah pretty much, most of the people here have a smartphone but are complaining about price
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>>379867506
Did you not read the notes M$ provided you with?
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>>379867746
Nigger my smartphone was $180.
Not everyone is a dumb welfare nigger who buys $600 iPhones.
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>>379867734
pc parts have always cost more than a console because it's not just a gaming device, it won't get lowered
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>>379867734
No.

480 won't get cheaper until next year when they take the 480 sticker off and put a 570 sticker on it, which will lower the price by $10.
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>>379867734
RX 480 is $250 right now because there's a shortage singe bitcoinfags are buying up all the stock of RX 4xx/5xx cards.
>>379867892
The 570 is already out stupid, and it's like $70-$80 cheaper.
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The original Xbox one launched at that price didn't it and now that's slot cheaper they will keep this price for a while especially for christmas to get the maximum from those who will pay then they'll lower it to for mass market
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>>379868003
>bitcoinfags are buying up all the stock of RX 4xx/5xx cards.
I assume you mean other cryptocurrencies because regular old PC parts just won't cut it for mining bitcoins anymore.
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>>379867875
>you still spent $180 on it you dumb retard
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>>379868168
It's ethereum miners, but you get the idea.
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>>379868265
Yea, on something that's portable, I can listen to music and watch movies and browse the internet on, AND something that I can use as a PHONE, which is why I bought it.
I'm not buying a $500 console with no exclusives to play at 4k30.
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>>379868286
I stuck 200 bucks in ethereum a few days ago and it's now worth 600
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>>379868003
the 480/580 cards were supposed to be affordable midrange GPU's, but the cryptocucks ruined it all.
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end of 2013 - 400 bucks console from Sony
end of 2013 - 500 bucks console from MS
>new generation

end of 2016 - 400 bucks console from Sony
end of 2017 - 500 bucks console from MS
>not a new generation aka optional console

How do they do it?
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>>379858012
>>379858164
>>379861986
Hmm, didn't really think of that. But I guess you could be right. We'll just have to wait and see.
>>
IT'S RIDGE RACER
RIIIIIDGE RACER!
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>>379859162
>supporting intel
Cuck detected
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>>379853479
Screencapped for future reference.
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>>379868847
Scorpio, Pro, and Switch are basically a new gen.
>B-BUT GAMES ARE STILL ON PS4/XB1
And games were still on PS3/360 at the beginning of this gen, who cares?
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>>379867875
>dumb welfare nigger
>Affording $600 phones
You seem to be the dumb welfare nigger if all you can afford is a shitty $180 phone.
>>
I built a gaymen pc that beats it in specs for cheaper
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>>379869208
>I don't know what a contract/layaway is
How else do you think dumb welfare niggers afford anything?
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>>379862053
>It won't fucking matter how powerful the scorpio is if it doesn't deliver games.
Fucking this. All we hear is how powerful the console is but it's going to share ALL games with XBONE according to Microsoft. So since all XBONE games gets cancelled, so are all Scorpio games.
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>>379868481
>a few days ago

I mined 100 ETH for the past year, wish i spent money on the coins instead of buying 10 GPUs. I was mining when it was only $5 a coin
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>>379861262
The Scorpio will support freesync 2, correct? If it does, then I see no reason why it wouldn't also allow for higher framerates in the graphics cards, considering the vast majority of freesync monitors support well above 60hz.
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>>379867010
The 360 Premium cost $399.99 dollars in 2006. Adjusted for inflation it cost would have cost $500.80 to buy it today.

I'm no console fanboy but people bitching about the Scorpio costing $500 are retarded and are probably underage b&.

I still wouldn't buy it.
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>>379852289
it's okay when sony does it
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>>379869910
>I'm no console fanboy but people bitching about the Scorpio costing $500 are retarded and are probably underage b&.
>I still wouldn't buy it.
I can understand the bitching though. Those who bitch, probably was hoping that Scorpio would be a reboot and start of a new gen for Microsoft. But at current spec and expected price, that is no longer possible. The cost is reasonable for the hardware, but then again so was the PS3. The fandom was just sad that their dream of Microsoft regaining market share was crushed, but the dream was never real.

Scorpio will do the same thing as PS4pro; sell to rick folks and hard core fans at a profit, and earn money while not changing market share at all.
>>
Is there any official announcement on price yet
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>>379862392
> rx 480
> achieving anything other than offloading crap to cpu, insane heat creation, high energy wastage and less reliable results than a 1060
get a loada this shill
>>
>>379852289
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCDzEIDXoAISyCN.jpg
FFVIIRemake Exclusive for XboxWow?
kek
>>
>>379871409
>achieving anything other than offloading crap to cpu
Stopped reading there.
>>
>>379871736
> I dont know that amd does exactly that

oh wow, is this a shill or just a retard I'm speaking to?
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>>379871660
THAT LEAK
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>>379871660
>Assinating Hitler
>World of Warcraft 2
>Half Life 2: 3 Collection
>499 player multiplayer
>remake of Final Fantasy 7 Remake
This is fucking amazing.
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>>379865972
Make me, niggerfaggot.
>>
Oh no! That's like, a whole 2 days pay for me!
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>>379871660
A M A Z I N G
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>>379861262
>console gamers think they need 4k
sales show otherwise, the Pro didn't do well at all most people still go for the cheaper less powerful consoles.
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>>379865972
do not let him diss you like that bro.
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>>379852508
>But many, including myself, don't want to play on PC. I prefer a controller & don't want to be playing against people w/ keyboard & mouse.
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>>379854028
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>>379873197
>don't want to be playing against people w/ keyboard & mouse.

Someone should tell him about the XIM
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>>379872074
Pottery
>>
It's a perfect price

It's a high end console, aimed at the educated, 4k gamers

If you can't afford it that's your problem, enjoy your 720p wiis
>>
>>379873197
>I prefer to deliberatly handicap myself instead of learning a more efficient way to play games and I would rather play against other handicapped
>I love videogames though, trust me
>>
>>379873493
>console owners
>xbox owners
>educated

lmao
>>
>>379873493
This

If you can't afford a 4k tv you wouldn't even consider this

Thus, it's not a problem at all
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>>379873470
That pic is for comparing a $200 meal to a $20 meal that gives no value.

Scorpio is like saying you're keeping your ps2 instead of buying a ps3
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>>379869161
Thats not how gens work retard. The pro and Scorpio don't have any exclusives, they're console revisions. Only the Switch is in a new gen.
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>>379852289
>500 for no games
For 500 you can buy a prebuilt PC than can play anything up to last year and emulate hundreds of god-tier games
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>>379873916
That pic is for people rationalizing overpriced shit with their salary.
>Well I can afford it so it's worth it!

Scorpio is like saying you're buying a PS4 that outputs at 4k instead of buying a PS4, except this one costs $100 more and has no exclusives.
>>
I'm thinking about the guy who bought a Xbone at launch for $500 and now is going to spend another $500 to have better graphics when he could have build a high end PC and still play Gears.
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>>379873802
I bought my 4K TV for less than the cost of the scorpio and it's a recent brand name model (Samsung).

The amount of people who have a 4K set and are willing to pay $500 for a multiplat box is even more niche than the audience of Pro owners, which is already pretty niche.
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>>379870504
yeah pretty much this.

But the King returns today. They can't handle it and burning from inside out.
>>
Hmm which will people get

>299 switch
Or
499 scorpio, the same thing as the Xbox one, which no one wanted
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>>379852701
>Still cheaper than the ps3 at launch

The ps3 was a massive fucking failure that put Sony millions in debt at launch, and only started making its money back two or three years into its lifespan you fucking idiot holy shit.

>If it lives up to the flops boasting then that is more than a fair price

Not only is it a unforgivable price, but you could build a PC stronger then that, for less money.
>>
>>379874669
Scorpio
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>>379874720
>The ps3 was a massive fucking failure that put Sony millions in debt at launch

Fucking this. Holy shit xbots are fucking dumb
>>
>>379853186
The entire point of people playing on consoles is because of being too poor for PC rigs you fucking moron. Consolefag might as well mean the same thing as poorfag.
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>>379869161
anon....but why did they name it not PS5 but PS4Pro then...
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>>379874720
>you could build a PC stronger then that, for less money.
I bet you fucking can't.
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g-guys? What if they make Scorpio only playable if you're online, like they tried to do last time? They'd never be that stupid...right...?
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WHERE
ARE
THE
GAMES?
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>>379875179
This is Microsoft, you know, the "play all our exclusive Xbox games on any PC, giving you zero reasons to buy the damn thing" guys?
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>>379853032
>wasting $499 just to play fucking videogames
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>379875086
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hvYJQV
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Sony niggers final chapter: Scorpio.

It renders the niggers as irrelevant with their PS4 Pro roach station.

The are furious right now.
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>>379874383
ps4 pro is worth it I s-s-s-swear
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>>379874383
>no exclusives
who gives a shit about exclusives
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>>379875653
>who gives a shit about exclusives
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>>379875549
Pro isn't worth it and the Scorpio is worth even less.
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>>379854873
Show.me.a console.that can do that. No, I'm not asking you to o show me a quote from a pr guy for a company that is notorious for its lies, I mean evidence that a console can do that.
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>>379875442
>4 core cpu
>fm2 socket micro atx
>current year 2017
>2x4gb ddr3 1600
>windows 8.1
>RX 580 4gb
>that chinese mouse and keyboard combo for 5$

you are missing out with those parts:

8 core cpu 2.3ghz
12 GDDR5 (9GB GDDR5 GPU, 3GB GDDR5 OS)
4k uhd bluray drive
controller

Kill yourself
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>>379860103
>obligatory millennial who doesn't like CD drives
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>>379875653
Anyone who is considering buying a less popular console with the same games.

Most console owners play multiplats but the only thing console players care less about than exclusives is power, especially when it costs $100-$200 more.
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>>379876115
>clinging to obsolete technology
Do you still have a floppy disk drive too?
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>>379875442
>Compatibility Notes

>Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case has front panel USB 3.0 ports, but the MSI - A68HM-E33 V2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard does not have onboard USB 3.0 headers.

>Unable to verify the Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case has sufficient space to fit the MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card.

autistic nigger builds a pc
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>>379854873
>true 4k at stable 60FPS
The Scorpio can't do that outside of games that already run at 4K and 60fps on mid tier PC hardware.
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>>379875442
weak bait
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>>379876068
>8 core cpu 2.3ghz
4 cores clocked at 3.7 GHz on a platform not made for laptops > 8 core 2.3 GHz laptop CPU.
>12 GDDR5 (9GB GDDR5 GPU, 3GB GDDR5 OS)
That build has 8 GB DDR3 + 4 GB GDDR5, GDDR5 is worse than DDR3 outside of graphics applications due to latency issues (which it makes up for in bandwidth, hence why it's only used in graphics cards on PC).
>4k uhd bluray drive
Who cares?
>controller
Already have a KB+M, but even with that price you'd have enough left over for a wired 360 controller.
>>379876268
Are you retarded?
None of that will prevent the build from functioning.
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>>379855619
>Pro runs worse
Sony said the exact same thing about the pro that this Microsoft 'influencer' has been paid to say in this thread. 4k 60fps gaming.

Can't even manage a 6 year old game at 1080/30
Expect Scorpio to be the same. It MIGHT get Minecraft to 60, but it won't be stable.
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>>379859000
>seagate 2TB backup plus
Enjoy your badsectors in 3 months
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>>379876441
It runs need for speed at 4k/24-30fps. Probably will dip even lower.

Instead of running games at 1080p at shit FPS, now they can run 4k games at shit FPS!
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>>379876253
yes, a record player and a fm/am radio too
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>>379875742
why is the term "no exclusives" given as a caveat to Scorpio ownership? I don't buy video game shit to covet some arbitrary sense of "exclusivity" that I can then use to lord over people on anonymous imageboards, I buy them to play video games. If a gaming device had NOGAMES it's a problem that would preclude me from buying the console, since it defeats the point of the purchase.
>>379876136
Your example relies entirely on multiplayer. I don't always multiplayer. Besides, idort is a thing that people should do so they have more choice (choice is good), therefore exclusives become an irrelevant factor.
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>>379852289
Half a thousand
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>before this information
>most of /v/:
>"Why would I buy this when I could use that money to upgrade my PC, AND play their games since they are also on PC?"
>"Yeah, I don't get it."
>"Well, if its around the same price as the PS4 was at launch, I will buy it!"
>"Now see, THAT'S reasonable! It makes sense to buy a console for the same price as others, but that is also better. As time goes forward, technology naturally gets better and cheaper. Improvement."

>Now:
>"Holy shit yes! $500 is awesome!"
>"Yesss, its cheaper then the PS3 was at launch! Its cheaper then the biggest failure Sony has ever had! Take that sony ponies!"
>"Ok...but....where's the games I can't play anywhere else.."
>"WHO FUCKING SAID THAT FUCK YOU WHO THE FUCK BUYS CONSOLES TO PLAY GAMES! 4K OR NOTHING!!"
>"$500..did people forget that most people found $400 too expensive for the PS4?"
>"FUCK YOU SONY FAGGOT 4K GRAPHICS IS ALL THAT MATTERS!!"

Guys, what the hell happened to /v/? Are we being raided? How did /v/ go full contrarian in a matter of seconds? Is it part of the console warrior mentality?
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>>379876728
Nigger it's just Xbox shills.
Companies always send their shills out during E3.
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>>379875653
Good point, I could use that money towards upgrading my PC to be stronger then the Scorpio, for less money, AND play its games on there at the same time. Thanks anon.
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>>379876613
$500 for literally 0 exclusives (unless Microsoft lied about their win10 initiative) at 24 fps? The rumors about Microsoft boards hating the Xbox division and doing everything in their power to shut it down are looking to be true.
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>>379867875
only welfare recieving non-germans in germany would be able to afford them due to the enhanced foreigner welfare programm.
welfare niggers in america realy have no money and the little they have, they spend on alcohol and drugs.
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>Xbox wins AGAIN
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>>379876940
Yea no, I'm surrounded by welfare niggers and spics in America and the vast majority of them have iPhones.
iPhones are synonymous with dumbfucks spending money they don't have on overpriced trash.
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>>379875498
I love my plastic game toy produced by my favorite giant corporation thank you very much
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>>379877121
You're the biggest idiot on Earth if you think they paid full price, or anything on those.
Niggers spend all their money on shoes and car mods, spics send all their money across the border.
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>>379876674
Why the fuck would anyone buy both a PS4 and a Scorpio when their libraries overlap by like 99% and both have online fees. Are you retarded?

No, my argument relies entirely on the state of the console market historically and present, while your counter relies entirely on personal opinion. Exclusives matter when the choice comes down to consoles with identical libraries, especially if you don't care about multiplayer games as exclusives tend to be single player. Your opinion on what people should do doesn't make exclusives irrelavent.
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>>379877318
>Niggers spend all their money on shoes and car mods
Objectively false, niggers spend their money on shoes, phones, and shitty consoles with Madden/NFL.
And I don't live anywhere near the border, I live in MA, and all our spics are Puerto Ricans, who spend their money on pretty much the same shit as niggers.
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>>379876434
> 8 core 2.3 GHz laptop CPU.
4 cores anything AMD in current is like willingly eating shit on a hot summer day
>That build has 8 GB DDR3 + 4 GB GDDR5,
So? Still weaker than Scorpio by miles. Apparently you not into logic.
>GDDR5 is worse than DDR3 outside of graphics applications due to latency issues.
simply wrong. it has 9GB GDDR5, which shits on your GPU 10 times and has 3 GB GDDR5 for OS.
Literally faster and better. Getting cringy now.
>Who cares?
lol someone who tries to cheap on out PC parts to get something going like yourselfs probably does
dumb spastic
>Already have a KB+M, but even with that price you'd have enough left over for a wired 360 controller.
not interested in buying chink kb+m combo which breaks within a couple days.

also see>>379876268

and fuck off this board you literal dick sucking amateur
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See this is what pisses me off, i just dont get it:
IF the scorpio will be like a ps4pro, meaning that all games released for it will also be available for xbone: then what is the fucking point? why not just wait a few years and get a next gen system? its obvious that the diference wont be too grand if the games have to run on OG xbone too.
Also why the fuck would anybody buy ANOTHER xbone when the god damn thing hasnt got a game in like 4 years???

IF the scorpio is just a new console, new generation that will have its own games: what kind of a fucking retard do you have to be to not only get fucked in the ass by microsoft because you bought an xbone and they're just like: "yeah that thing is dead now, buy scorpio", but to spend ANOTHER 500 dollars on this piece of shit that is GUARANTEED to be a halo/gears machine because microsoft hasnt got a SINGLE worthwhile exclusive since 2010??

What the fuck is even the point of this thing? its so fucking retarded it boggles my mind.
The ps4pro was retarded too but at least its sort of dead now and there arent any games solely for it, so ps4 owners never got royally fucked.
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>>379875179
They talked about how they want to ease people into it more. You guys are far behind, like always. It's actually pretty good if done right like Valve has. I can't imagine going back to physical media. It only sucks if you collect games but most people don't so whatever.
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The only way that Microsoft could undercut Sony is to make online free. But there's no way in hell that's gonna happen.
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https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sue-geoff-keighley
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>>379876674
>exclusives don't matter, multiplats are the most popular
>multiplayer doesn't matter despite the fact almost every popular console game is played multiplayer

choose one.
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>>379877625
>ipetitions
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>>379877457
>4 cores anything AMD in current is like willingly eating shit on a hot summer day
Uhh, you do realize that the CPU in the Scorpio is a shitty AMD CPU designed for laptops, right?
There's a reason no serious laptop that costs more than $500 uses AMD's shitty mobile CPUs.
>So? Still weaker than Scorpio by miles.
Nope, the RX 580 is a 4k capable GPU in pretty much every modern game.
Maybe not maxed out, but that's the case for Scorpio as well.
>Literally faster and better.
You don't know what you're talking about, just drop it.
GDDR5 is utilized for high-throughput applications (typically related to graphics), while DDR3 is better for applications that rely more on memory latency and processing speed.
>lol someone who tries to cheap on out PC parts to get something going like yourselfs probably does
Holy shit, are you a nigger?
That's some shit-tier English.
>not interested in buying chink kb+m combo which breaks within a couple days.
Every console is manufactured by Foxconn, the king of chink shit.
>also see>>379876268
Again, none of that shit has an effect on the build.
Do you even know what I/O is?
Get the fuck out you dumb nigger, you don't know shit about hardware, stop trying to act like you're an expert when you're clearly retarded.
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>>379877487
The difference will be 30fps 720p on Xbone, 60fps 4k on Scorpio.
At least, that's what Microsoft is gonna tell you.
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>>379877610
PC games at retail had been dying even before Steam became a storefront for third party games. Thinking the same would work on console when by far most people buy console games at retail AND forcing you to be always online which even Valve isn't retarded enough to pull, is fucking delusional.
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>>379877625
getin triggered
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>>379877981
>30fps 720p on Xbone
Yes since the Xbone is a weak pos
>60fps 4k on Scorpio
Only with Forza and a handful of low IQ games.
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I CAN'T AFFORD THAT. NOT EVEN MY PC COST THAT MUCH
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>>379877451
>The rims keep spinnun nigga!
They steal tech, they buy mods.
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>>379852289

>not understanding business tactics in 2017

they set it that high so they can lower the price, which is the actual price they wanted all along. Somewhere between 350 and 400.
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do they even announce prices at E3?
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>>379852289
>cost less than almost any one decent PC part

what's the problem
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>>379878007
>PC games at retail had been dying even before Steam
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>>379852289


My face when all the underageb& can't ask their parents to buy them this cause it's too much money.
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>>379878403
By the time that happens realistically, Sony and maybe even Microsoft will be launching their next gen consoles so Scorpio still won't be a factor for most people. If Microsoft slashes the price early then the initial launch is essentially a semi-paper launch meant to dupe the absolute hardcore xboners into early adoption.
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>>379878631
But anon, a decent more powerful PC GPU costs like $200-$250.
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>>379852289
Amazed at the level of incompetence shown with the roll out of the next gen consoles. No games, new and proper versions of each console released, money grubbing beyond belief. Crazy. I dont think any console generation will ever be better than ps3 and xbox 360.
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>>379877681
Where did I say that multiplayer doesn't matter?
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>>379878686
Not an argument.
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>>379878804
Well the ps4 started getting some games this year but i agree, this generation is really lagging behind when compared to the previous one
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>>379859000
>A fucking DVD drive in 2017
Ditch that thing and use the $50 to buy a RX570 instead of the 1050ti.
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>>379878853
>Your example relies entirely on multiplayer.
Meanwhile nowhere in the post you responded to was multiplayer mentioned even once
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>>379877882
>There's a reason no serious laptop that costs more than $500 uses AMD's shitty mobile CPUs.
okay uuh I guess keep pretending it's irrelevant or something
>Nope, the RX 580 is a 4k capable GPU in pretty much every modern game.
my sides yet still it only has 4GB of vram vs the 9 on the Scorpio
>Maybe not maxed out, but that's the case for Scorpio as well.
thanks again for proving my point how retarded you are
>You don't know what you're talking about, just drop it.
>GDDR5 is utilized for high-throughput applications (typically related to graphics), while DDR3 is better for applications that rely more on memory latency and processing speed.
I play games on the console. Why do you bring this up you retard? What? Applications? Really spastic? Xbox OS has no need for it and is even better off with GDDR5, which is faster and more appealing for games. Still you are behind with your cringy 4GB of GPU power.
>Holy shit, are you a nigger?
>That's some shit-tier English.
Yeah I was right from the start. Dick sucking amateur who can't even find a 4k bluray player and just ignores it. Pathetic really.
>Every console is manufactured by Foxconn, the king of chink shit.
but it's still better than a no name chink kb+m combo tho
>Again, none of that shit has an effect on the build.
but it fucking does. You can't read what is written under compatibility check?
Damn. You have serious issues.
>on't know shit about hardware, stop trying to act like you're an expert when you're clearly retarded.
but you are the one who claimed to have the ideal PC which is better than the Scorpio for less money. I don't see fuck all but your autism.
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>>379878982
It does. If you're worried about the popularity of a console it's because you want to play multiplayer and want a decent chance of getting a full lobby of players.

Unless you're some faggot who buys popular shit just because it's popular, like an Applefag.
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>mfw this was all a ploy just to get more advertisement by receiving negative feedback as a joke
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Microsoft has a low-end console for poor people already
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>>379879223
>okay uuh I guess keep pretending it's irrelevant or something
What?
English nigger, learn it.
>my sides yet still it only has 4GB of vram vs the 9 on the Scorpio
The Scorpio doesn't have 9 GB of VRAM you dumb nigger, this is what I was talking about when it came to you not knowing shit about hardware.
>thanks again for proving my point how retarded you are
#notanargument
>I play games on the console. Why do you bring this up you retard? What? Applications? Really spastic? Xbox OS has no need for it
Stopped reading there.
If you literally don't even know what an application is, there's no point in continuing.
You are literally a retarded nigger talking about something you know nothing about who's too afraid to admit that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
I will now meme all your replies with smug lolis because there's no point in arguing with someone as stupid as you.
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>>379855458
Sony are going to do it. They killed the SEGA Saturn by announcing $200 for PSX, they will certainly kill Xbox Scorpio with $200 PS4 Pro.
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>>379855458
This is exactly what Microshit want.
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>>379879278
It objectively does not. The post contained no mention of multiplayer even once. You're arguing against a strawman like a dipshit when nobody ever even implied that there wasn't enough xboners to fill out lobies for multiplayer games.

The idea that exclusives shouldn't matter when deciding to buy a console while putting a greater importance on single player games, many of which are exclusive is absolutely fucking retarded.

>Unless you're some faggot who buys popular shit just because it's popular, like an Applefag.
Literally no different from xboners and if you think brand awareness isn't a massive factor in the console market then you're an even bigger retard than I thought.
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>>379878631
>consolefags are actually this retarded when it comes to PC parts
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>>379864308
>that guy who can never refute the other 49 points.
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>>379879467
>English nigger, learn it.
I speak it. What you are doing is autistic.
>The Scorpio doesn't have 9 GB of VRAM you dumb nigger, this is what I was talking about when it came to you not knowing shit about hardware.
okay , he is even more retarded than I thought
>#notanargument
it is since you fail to find words to reply and you know I'm right
>what an application is, there's no point in continuing.
i know what it is, but again why do you keep bringing it up? it has no effect on the xbox os, it's not running 90 processes in the background you imbecile. 3GB GDDR5 is more than enough to handle anything on console for apps usage.
Getting really bored of your autism now.
>You are literally a retarded nigger talking about something you know nothing about who's too afraid to admit that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
>I will now meme all your replies with smug lolis because there's no point in arguing with someone as stupid as you.
I already got you cornered like a cheap whore after the first reply. You can't even reply to such a simple problem and just duck and dodge like the living failure you are.
So Scorpio won in the end. I'm glad it is settled.
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>>379879976
Consolefags are retarded when it comes to any hardware.
They probably know less about the hardware in the consoles.
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>>379854028
>$2000 PC
People who use this retarded meme should be banned.
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>>379880387
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As someone who just spent $800 on a PC and another $150 or so on mouse+keyboard+mousepad, I'm starting to realize PC gaming is not all it's hyped to be. The only good games on PC are indie exclusives, MOBAs (Dota2, League, HotS), arena FPSes (CSGO, TF2, Overwatch, R6 Siege), and strategy/RTS games (dead genre, so mostly old games anyways), and all of those can be played on a potato. I'm starting to think I should have just bought a potato, but it was hard to justify that since the accessories are so expensive that I would essentially still be paying $600+ just to get worse performance than the consoles.

I mean with consoles you can get a console for $300 with a game and controller, whereas PC you need gaming monitor ($150), mouse ($60), keyboard ($50-100), and a mousepad ($15). Fortunately I already played my PS4 on a monitor so that was already covered, but that's a huge chunk of cash just for accessories, then you also have constant driver issues and constantly need to troubleshoot, whereas consoles (and in the words of the great Todd Howard) "it just werks"

People will unironically post PCpartpicker builds with some fucking useless trash $5 mouse and some junk keyboard that are going to perform poorly in game and will fail within a month, but yet you check any rig thread and 99% of the people are using keyboards and mice that cost $50-100 each.

Anyways, I don't like Xbox and their exclusives, and while I think $500 is perfectly reasonable for 4k gaming when compared to PC gaming, the thing is that most PC gamers want to get the best possible performance so they will opt for a top of the line build, while those who want a console with great performance and vastly superior exclusives will just get PS4 or PS4 Pro. So Scorpio is really limited appeal to a very small group of people who don't own a PC but want a middle of the line PC performance on a console, but also either already own a PS4 or don't care about the PS4 exclusives.
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>>379879837
>Anyone who is considering buying a less popular console with the same games
>SAME GAMES
>LESS POPULAR
This is why I fucking mentioned multiplayer, you fucking spaz.

And I never put an importance on single-player games at all. You are the one straw-manning. I said basically; "the console's popularity shouldn't be an issue unless you want to play multiplayer games".
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you're going to look so fucking stupid when it turns out this leak was fake and it's actually only $399 and sony has NOTHING to counter it tomorrow.

BGST is gonna roast all the sony pony asses for sure this year.
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>>379880387
>So Scorpio won in the end. I'm glad it is settled.
Scorpio always wins baby
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>>379852289

>make an all in one system that is easy to use that competes with $999 PCs
>LOL IT'S DED XDD!!!! MICROSOFT IS FINISHED!!!! :')

Why are sonyfags so fucking retarded?
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>>379880531
drown your sorrows in your smug folder and while you are at it upload a video where you build that pc
hahahahahaha fuck my sides
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>>379881775
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>>379881016
>"the console's popularity shouldn't be an issue unless you want to play multiplayer games".
>I never put an importance on single-player games at all. You are the one straw-manning

Are you fucking retarded? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

You literally dismissed multiplayer games while arguing that exclusives, most of which are single player, shouldn't be a factor. And you're accusing me of strawmaning? You are one stupid fucking cunt
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>>379881325
there was some dumb rumor that the console would be 400$ because it just made sense :)

It seems odd for Geoff to announce the price on his own, thats super fucked up and seems like he did it out of spite
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>>379852289

live
twitch tv / xbox

Sony niggers on SUICIDAL CARE
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>>379881016
>"the console's popularity shouldn't be an issue unless you want to play multiplayer games".
Which most console owners do, considering the top selling Playstation and Xbox games are almost universally multiplayer. Xbone has the SAME GAMES while being LESS POPULAR, regardless if you're only counting multiplayer or single player.
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>>379882247
I didn't dismiss multiplayer. I said if you care about a console's popularity you only give a shit about multiplayer.
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>>379852289

Return of the King. Niggers back in chains.
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>>379873962
>Only the Switch is in a new gen.
more like different gen than wii u but still 2 gens behind ps4/xbone
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>>379882330
who cares.
even at 500 it's a great price
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>>379882481
>I didn't dismiss multiplayer.
>Your example relies entirely on multiplayer. I don't always multiplayer.

In reply to a post that didn't even mention multiplayer. You're stupid as fuck dude.
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>>379881325
>competes with $999 PCs
Kek
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>>379882471
Which is perfectly reasonable as a purchasing decision — if you want to play multiplayer then by all means buy the more popular console.
>>379882721
"I don't always multiplayer" isn't a dismissal. Nice try, tho.
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>>379882620
Switch is a handheld. Its a new gen, Wii U and 3DS are last gen.
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>>379871660
TOP KEK
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>>379882669
If youre a down syndrome xboner maybe
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>>379882836
And if you want to play single player buy the console with more single player games, aka exclusives. Either way Xbone is at a disadvantage aside from power, which most people care even less about than exclusives.
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>>379871851
Is that why they're so popular with the miners?
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>>379852289
>Console costs money
How is this news? Nintendo with their handheld gimmick toaster costed 400. So a console that is stronger then 5 of those 400 buck things costs 500? that sounds like a fucking deal to me...if I wanted a console
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>>379882836
>Your example relies entirely on multiplayer. I don't always multiplayer.
>post doesn't even mention multiplayer
>I never dismissed multiplayer!

(You)
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>>379882960
IT IS 500$ FOR 4 FOUR FUCKING K RESOLUTION
TRUE 4K

ALSO

>FIXED DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICATION
DEVELOPERS CAN PUSH THIS 10TIMES MORE THAN A PC

BLOW IT UP YOUR ASS YOU ..

FUCK

FUCKING IDIOT
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>>379883241
The Switch is $300.
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>>379883292
>DEVELOPERS CAN PUSH THIS 10TIMES MORE THAN A PC
Kek, the next 4 years are gonna be great.
Xboners reaching Sony nigger levels of delusion.
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>>379883241
If you're going to defend Microsoft's retarded pricing scheme at least don't blatantly lie about the cost of other consoles
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>>379852289
> investing 2-3k+ on a decent hdr 4tv with low input lag
> somehow 499 is bad

Enthusiast will flock to the scorpio, since it provides the best visuals on the console market.
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>>379879441
It's called the PC.
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>>379883292
The only game confirmed running in native 4K is Forza but it's at 30fps. My PC can do that with any game if I cap it at 30fps. I have serious doubts Scorpio will run 2017/2018/2019 games at 4K/60fps unless they get a massive graphical downgrade. You can't outclass a 1080ti for $500. It will likely be last-gen titles that get remastered at 4K/60fps. Will a Scorpio play Cyberpunk 2077 at native 4K/60fps? Try again retard.
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How many of you own anything 4K?

My monitor and tv are 1080p and I see no need to upgrade.

My android tablet is like 720p. I guess the highest resolution thing I own is my iPhone 6S plus.
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>>379852289

>buying a $700 dollars TITAN X every year.

LMAO @ YOU
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>>379883481
Just fucking wait you nigger.
You'll fucking see

A+++++ Quality of Graphics
A+++++ Framerate
A+++++ E X C L U S I V E S

BLOW
IT
UP
YOUR
ESS
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>>379883526
A decent HDR 4K TV costs less than half of that. HDR is even more fucking niche than 4k. And the audience of enthusiasts who care about visuals but are too stupid/lazy to operate a PC is even more niche than that.
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>>379883104
Indeed. However the Xbox has just as many exclusives as the PS4 if you are only a console player. Of course that you can buy them and play them on PC means they aren't strictly exclusive but they ARE if you only want a console. So I say again, who give a shit about exclusives?
>>379883245
Something does not have to be excplicitly mentioned in order for it to be brought up as a retort.
>"we should ban guns"
>"why"
>"because they're dangerous and they kill people"
>"in that case I think the police shouldn't be allowed them either"
>"WTFBBQ I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED THE POLICE WHY BRING THEM UP"
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thats a great price for whats pretty much a super computer than even NASA would be envious of.
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>>379883651
I have a good 4K TV that wasn't too expensive, but even I'm not retarded enough to buy into a current gen console refresh just for 4k.
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>>379883836
>A decent HDR 4K TV costs less than half of that
Not with decent input latency.
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>>379883860
>I AM SILLY
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>>379880821
>arena FPSes (CSGO, TF2, Overwatch, R6 Siege),
>arena FPSes

please be trolling
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>>379884237
I see you've been reduced to posting memes.
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>>379852289
>A better console costs more
More news at 11
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>>379884064
Wrong. 4K HDR TVs with the lowest input latency are on the low-middle end of the pricing tier. 4K HDR TVs that cost $2k-3k are usually OLEDs which have horrendous input lag. The best 4K TVs with HDR and low input lag are LED-LCD and cost less than half of that.
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>>379883651
4k monitor and two 1080s
feels gud
1700x bottlenecks them a little but that should be fixed in the upcoming months, this arch is still a baby
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>>379884491
You accused me of straw-manning and then literally posted a greentext strawman with I AM SILLY all caps you waste of oxygen
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>>379852289
>$599
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>>379852289
Dorito Pope took M$ money yet again to $hill for a billion dollar corporation to take part in the ruse cruise. So when Microtra$h announces a lower price point every redditor and video game blogger in the room will go apeshit.
The oldest fucking trick.

People have forgotten that this industry whore rode a fucking giraffe at an E3 once. He is in cahoots with M$.
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>>379852289
>$499 for a console with no games
It didn't work for PS3 why would it work now
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>>379883860
>However the Xbox has just as many exclusives as the PS4 if you are only a console player.
In other words it doesn't have anywhere near as many exclusives.
>Of course that you can buy them and play them on PC means they aren't strictly exclusive but they ARE if you only want a console.
In other words they're not exclusives.
>So I say again, who give a shit about exclusives?
Anyone who cares about playing more than just multiplayer games on their console. Especially if you're not retarded enough to spend $800-$900 on a redundant pair of consoles.
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>>379852289
FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS
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>>379853032
Is this console for retards that cant into pc gayming? I honestly cant see a valid reason to buy one with such a shit library. You can get all the games on pc that run as good if not better in some cases and xboner literally has no exclusives.

Not beibg a troll or faggot but why invest in one? Is it because of the "most powerful console ever" tagline?
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>>379885195
Brand loyalty is one hell of a drug.

There are still people in 2017 who insist tying always online DRM to console game discs was a good idea
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>>379884979
>In other words it doesn't have anywhere near as many exclusives.
Not literally literally, no. But, like I said, if you're only a console gamer then the shared library of PC/Xbox is utterly irrelevant.

If you already own a PC then the Xbox is a poorer proposition than the PS4 to anyone with a brain, so it's basically a moot poit to even bringing up exclusivity as a caveat.

If you are an idort (which logically would be concluded if you don't give a fuck about xbox exclusivity since their games are on PC meaning you own a PC) then why would you give a fuck about exclusives
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>With confidence
>Unless
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>>379875742
TRANQUILO!
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>>379886863
Thank God I'm not the only one that noticed.
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>>379855510
even if it isn't on ultra, console games play at the pc equivalent of low/medium settings anyway. a console at true 4k would have to dial the settings down to ultra low to run at a playable frame rate
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>>379855221
>>379855978
Edgy. Yes, fuck citing your sources in the OP. When you tell some information, it's up to YOU to prove that your info is correct. I shouldn't have to waste my time proving YOU right. Fucking dolts.
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If Microsoft delivers on decent 4K performance then the price might be worth it.
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>>379868939
What if the leak was intentional but incorrect so they can surprise with a 399 price later?
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>>379860450
more like a high end pc has trouble doing 4k60fps on ULTRA settings. the scorpio will be doing 4k30fps WITH drops to 15-20fps on ULTRA LOW settings
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>>379855510
No current gen console multiplat does 4k/60 at ultra or high settings equivalent to PC. A 1070 can easily do 4k/30fps in Hitman better than the PS4 Pro, despite it being one of the few games that actually runs at native 4k on the Pro.
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>>379886863
I was upset no one pointed this out for so long then I remembered where we are at.

Truly giant retards
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>>379886485
If you're an idort then why the fuck would you care about the xbone?

The xbox is a poorer proposition to anyone with a brain if you already own any current gen console that isn't made by Nintendo. Even if you're a console-only gamer and want to pretend that PC/Xbox multiplats are irrelevant but are willing to spend $500 on a console just for 4k, the Xbone is still lacking in exclusives compared to PS4. And if you aren't playing on consoles for just multiplayer then exclusives clearly do matter.

Theres a reason why almost ever self proclaimed idort says they don't have the Xbone as a caveat. Last gen being an idort meant owning every current console + PC. This gen it means PS4+PC+Switch+3DS+Vita.
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>>379888502
>despite it being one of the few games that actually runs at native 4k on the Pro.
Psst
Hitman runs at 1440p on the Pro.
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>>379872954
Because as always, it's the games that matter. No reason to spend more on slightly better when you can still get the game good enough.
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>>379862283
the scorpio won't achieve it without 30fps and constant drops to 15 fps, on super low settings.
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>>379889291
I don't care about the xbone.
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>>379863018
*with extreme stuttering and drops below 15fps, on extremely low graphics settings
fixed that for you
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>>379852289
XBOX ONE X
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>>379852289
>half a grand for a console

Might as well spend a little extra and make a decent PC
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>>379890004
And yet you're here trying to justify it.
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>>379854037
No that is $650 CDN
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>>379892778
I'm not. All I asked was "who gives a shit about exclusives". This was a rhetorical question, as in people shouldn't give a fuck about exclusives.

Exclusives are the cancer of videogames. If every game was on every console there would not be even a fucking quarter of the consolewar shit we have today. For the recent gens it all started with MUH HALO. Seriously.
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