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Monster Hunter for PS4

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13161507
http://www.strawpoll.me/13161507
http://www.strawpoll.me/13161507
What do you say, /v/?
Would you like to get the franchise on the PS4?
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I'd buy a mainline MonHun on PS4. I wouldn't buy the Frontier-like game it's almost certainly going to be if there is one at all.
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>>379848190
I would like that as well.
>tfw improved graphics and 60 FPS
hnng
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>>379848190
Frontier is on PS4 since last year.
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>>379848083
Monster Hunter Frontier already is on PS4
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>>379848083
Honestly no.
They'd have to design the game around the core audience of the PS4 which would require them removing aspects of the game that make Monster Hunter, well, Monster Hunter.
I mean needless to say the game isn't very casual friendly.
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I have a PS4 but I would rather not have to pay to play online.
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>>379848551
Which is another thing. No local play on PS4.
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>>379848083
>tfw no mh5 on PS4
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>>379848083
not as long nintendo holds the exclusive rights to the ip currently.
capcom sold them the rights to have monster hunter on the platform of their choosing.
you bet your ass until that contract runs out in maybe another 10 years nothing monsterhunter will touch anything non nintendo.
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I would, but I'm not delusional enough to think it could actually happen. MH goes where the money is, and Japan loves the Switch
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>>379849234
You know that there's no contract or anything right?
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>>379849469
threre is.
it was made shortly after monsterhunter online was released and made a fuckton of money in china. also capcom was dis-satisfied with how badly the android and ios port for mhfu did.
so they talked to nitnendo. wii u monster hunters were a dissapointment. however, handheld monsterhunter games dominated the charts every time they came out in the east and west. but mostly in the east.
so they stuck with nintendo. the deal was made during mh 3g
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>>379849234
>not as long nintendo holds the exclusive rights to the ip currently.
>capcom sold them the rights to have monster hunter on the platform of their choosing.
Nintendildos actually believe this.

Imma go with [citation FUCKING needed]
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>>379849770
>dominated the charts every time they came out in the east and west. but mostly in the east.
You do know the 3DS MonHun games have sold less than the PSP ones, right?
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>>379849770
MHO was first revealed in 2013, the year MH4 came out. Alpha didn't come out until few years later.
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>>379848480
Monster Hunter is casual as fuck.
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>>379849770
You're a fucking moron dude.
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>>379850026
Because mobile decimated the handheld industry. Monhan would've fallen even further if it stayed with Sony.
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>>379849874
Only Sonygros believe a deal was made.
The best part is that the length of time keeps on getting longer.
First it was going to expire after 4U now it's just jumped to 10 years.
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>>379850026
>Monster Hunter Freedom
>1.34 million sales
>Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
>3.4 million sales
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>>379848906
is this supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing
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>>379850086
Frontier is the black sheep of the MH family. Nobody likes that crap
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>>379849314
joke boss?
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>>379850201
Irrelevant.
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>>379850153
Whoops, I read that number wrong on 4 Ultimate. 3.94. Almost 4 million.
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>>379848083
Would I? I'd like it, but I have a 3DS so as long as it's still coming to that then I'm not in any rush.
Will it? Of course not.
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>>379849234
>Nintenigger delusion
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>>379850026
Well that's only half true.
Monster Hunter has seen more success on Nintendo platforms as a whole and with more consistency while only one game on another platform did better
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>>379848083

Voted no. To be honest, Monster Hunter is Kusoge, so I don't care where it goes beyond the loo.
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>>379850171
It triggered a lot of people last thread, so it's a good thing. Way too many people take 4chan too seriously.
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>>379850153
>Monster Hunter portable 3rd
>4.9 million sales
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>>379850297
Pretty sure both 4 games crossed 4mil a while back.
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>>379850153
Eat shit.
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>>379850402
i dunno to me its like letting you see hitboxes in a fighting game's training mode, it seems pretty innocent

if anything what monster hunter needs is a tutorial that actually shows you how monster hitzones work
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>>379850441
Btfo
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>>379848083

I would simply because I enjoyed it on the 3DS and it would be nice to play it without my hands cramping for once.
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>>379850247
Nope, this one is
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>>379850441
>>379850335
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>>379850036
you're confusing low skill floor with low skill ceiling
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>>379848480

The same audience that eats up the Soul series and games of its ilk? That audience? Ya I'm sure they'd fucking hate MH with its casual friendly nature.
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>>379850560
Last thread people didn't read the filename. I just let it be because it's funny.
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I like MH gameplay and I would buy it on a platform that I own, but after buying a Wii for Tri and immensely regretting it I would not buy a platform specifically to play MH.

So yeah, I would buy it if it's on PS4 but no big deal if it's not.
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>>379850716
MH is harder than Souls
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>>379850716
there's nothing wrong with a low skill floor if the game has a high skill ceiling
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>>379850441
>R-remember the 4.8 gorillion, goyim.
Man, Salesocaust is so boring
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>>379850716
MH is far less catering to casuals than the souls series is you can see that in the iframes for the rolls where the souls series has a ton of them but monhun a few.
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>>379850698
Doesn't change the fact that every casual and their grandma can easily play the game without problems.
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>>379850805
>>379851019
You niggers are high MH is pretty easy with the greatsword/lance. The only difficult thing about it is the ridiculous health pools the big monsters have.
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>>379850441
That's not even remotely right
FU didn't even break 4mil.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
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>>379850560
I feel that, unlike fighting game,s MH is a lot about learning and understanding things. The first time you fight a new mosnter you're always cautios to not get hit and learn what it can do.
The same hunt with the same gear can take much less time later on as you know when to attack and when to avoid attacks, enforcing that feel of improvement and getting better at the game.

Newer installments have better hitboxes and most of the time if you're hit it's because something was soppussed to hit, not because clunky hitboxes that made no sense.
Showing all those areas and hitboxes, to me, kills a lot the inmersion and learning curve and makes even more clear that you're playing a game.

It would be like putting mandatory text boxes in Souls games that stop the gameplay to say "enemies can ambush you" instead of letting the player be ambushed by a weak enemy and learn from it, expecting ambushed from other enemies later on.

The less a game reminds you it's a game, the better the experience will be.
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>>379848083
Character models and animations that don't look like they're from the PSP era.

But who am I kidding? The only way Capcom can keep making a profit on this series is to recycle that shit like Compile Heart does with Neptunia.
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>>379851301
Yes it did even in Japan alone.

Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G
2008/3/27
PSP - 4,206,723

http://game00.blog.jp/monsterhunter.html
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>>379851029
you'll have to define what you mean by play the game without problems

>inb4 struggling for 30 minutes on half the quests to hr unlock while double carting is considered 'easily playing the game without problems'
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I said no because I don't have a ps4.
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>>379851387
There's nothing wrong with MH's animations. Hell, they're one of the series' strongest points
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>>379851458
>blog
>dead link
Are you really going to argue with capcom's official site?
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>>379851515
Zenith very fast pupper!
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>>379851471
I mean simply finishing the game.
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>>379851307
it depends on the context, is seeing the hitboxes just an option you can turn on or is it something that only appears in a separate training mode? i think the latter is acceptable

i think letting people see that the monster doesn't actually turn into a gigantic ball of death when it attacks would go a long way towards helping people understand how MH combat works
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>>379850373
*tips kasa*
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>>379851246
It's really easy to just hit & run the monsters or turtle with a lance, but the point is to become good with the weapons so you can be aggressive and make hunts faster. Honestly, monsters don't have much health, at best the G-rank ones but it's more about having less openings or being mroe dangerous and therefore encourages a more defensive play.
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>>379850954
True but don't act as if you need to be a skill god to play MH, even 12 year old kids like it
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>>379851821
What does 'finishing the game' mean for MonHun?
Because you can struggle your way to the credits, it's casual?
My sister could beat DMC on Easy
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Sony already ruined God of War. I don't want them ruining Monster Hunter
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When Monster Hunter goes open world (which it will if it goes to the PS4), that is the day I stop playing Monster Hunter.
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>>379851647
the older monsters could do with quite a bit of polish on their recycled animations but i agree that their newer ones as well as the animations of new monsters are superb
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>>379848083
no, I don't have a ps4.
I would buy it on the pc tho
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>>379851458
Dude, the link he gave you has the world wide sales of those games. It didn't cross 4mil.
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>>379848083
>Would you like to get the franchise on the PS4?
I'd rather have it on the 3DS so I don't have to pay to play it with friends, or the switch so I'm at least only paying $20
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>>379851883
If it's a separate optional trainign mode that's not part of the mainline quests then I guess it's fine, as it could help some people to udnerstand how things work as you say.

If it's a mandatory tutorial then it's really stupid as it introduces a mechanic that unless there's a version for ALL monsters it's useless. And, even then, having a training mode for all mosnters streamlines things a bit too much. Not seeing or knowing that grey area wether an attack will connect or not it's part of the appeal and gives a lot of tension to the hunt.
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>>379851750
Huh it is dead. Anyway Capcom's number doesn't account for the many re-releases the FU got that sold millions based on the chart. They only count the base FU. The "PSP The Best" releases are not technically called FU. All other MH titles get "The Best" re-releases, but FU one sold the best.
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>>379851978
>Because you can struggle your way to the credits, it's casual?
Yes, if casuals can finish all the main content it's a casual friendly game. This is also true for DMC and evey other game with an easy mode.
DMC is in fact popular with the casual crowd.
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>>379851962
they play it in groups
solo G rank is where the true monster hunter connoiseurs get separated from the trash
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>>379852140
See >>379852192

Add another roughly 1.5 million to that number, which gives you the VGChartz figure.
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>>379850026
>>379850441
>>379851458
Damn son, you right. Why is Capcom is releasing them on the 3DS when they could do it with the PSP?
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>>379848083
No, and I'm speaking as a hueg Sonybro. No doubt they'd casualize the game if it comes out on consoles.
I mostly play jrpg games but haven't got the chance to play it on 3ds, hope they announce a new one on Switch so I could get the handheld as well.
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>>379851986
God of War was never good.
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>>379852941
It was a decent DMC clone. Better than the cinematic trash it'll become with the next game
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>>379852517
MH is already casual, that's literally how it's described by the developers themselves.
I'm a pretty big fan of the series but people who act as if the game isn't accessible to huge casuals and doesn't have casual appeal are full of shit.
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>>379853090
Every GoW is cinematic quick time event: the game.
Play the games before talking.
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>>379853273
I did. Yes, they are a bit trigger-happy with the QTEs, but I still found them enjoyable. The series should have just ended for good with 3, though
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I'm still confident in MH5 is PS4/Switch.
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>>379852192
Not him but the only way it would sell better is if you combine both freedom 2 and unite because that site consolidates rereleases of the same game.
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>>379848083
Monster Hunter wouldn't appeal to Sony's casual dudebro market, so I imagine it would fail then just end up back on Nintendo's side where it was successful in the west

If it were to ever swap back to Sony
How do people keep thinking MH on Sony is ever gonna happen again? Capcom's not gonna put that much effort into it.
Reason why they keep it on Nintendo is because they don't have to prioritize graphics because, surprise, graphics aren't important.
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>>379853454
No it's not the same game. You see this chart >>379851458, those are arranged in the same game order, counting HD releases.
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>>379848083
It won't be exclusive to the PS4 anyway. Hoping more on a PC release if anything.
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>>379853550
>Monster Hunter wouldn't appeal to Sony's casual dudebro market
How did Persona 5 and Nier Automata become so popular on PS4?
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>>379853550
Why is MHXX on Switch if graphics is not important?
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>>379852182
i think there are some elements to monster hunter that absolutely should be made crystal clear to new players like how sharpness works and how monster hitzones work
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>>379853589
The the game didn't sell as much as as you think it did because it doesn't make a second appearance on the list of million+ sellers. Or that it consolidates every release.
In any case they have to make a record of this for legal reasons and if it isn't there then it didn't happen. Simple as that.
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>>379853809
Because resolution
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>>379853943
But it happened and people already tracked those sales.
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>>379853904
the thing about MH is that it's a long running franchise that has retained the same core gameplay through all the games, so a lot of things are handled in a way that if you're a veteran player it doesn't get too much in your way.

but that also means that new players can get confused as the game throws a lot of things on you right at the start. happened to me back in Tri and I know several people who dropped the game because of it.

I'm sure there's a way to please both sides but it's hard to find.
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>>379854060
Isn't that graphics? Doesn't the PS4 have like 4k resolution if that is so important?
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>>379854070
Then where are the records of these sales? Like I said FU doesn't make another appearance.
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>>379854242
Here >>379851458. I believe these are Famitsu numbers, not Mediacreate.
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>>379854358
The only source for those numbers is the chart and it doesn't match with the real numbers.
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>>379854558
Here's another chart I have. It's quoting the same Famitsu numbers anyway. Entry number 4 and 11 are the MHFU re-releases, totaling to almost 1.8 million. These are real numbers.
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>>379848694
That's a good point. Local hunting was a blast.
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Enjoy your chinese MMO localization LOL
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Buy a switch, loser
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>>379852256
My friends couldn't clear the the mission in Gen to make it to high rank. These games are near the furthest you can get from casual and only half the people the bought Bloodborne finished it. Horrible fit on PS4
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>>379855145
Pay me
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>>379848906
lmao cashuls
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>>379854132
>I'm sure there's a way to please both sides but it's hard to find.
capcom's current approach is not working

having a dozen missions to teach the player that they can gather and craft items while leaving key gameplay elements unexplained just ends up wasting everyone's time whether they're novices or series veterans
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I'd really want Capcom to take the time to make a console based MH rather than ports so yes.

Just move away from the 3DS. Switch or PS4.
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>>379854642
And where did this one come from now?
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>>379855741
If it makes you feel better XX is most likely testing the waters like 3U did.
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>>379855273
>My friends couldn't clear the the mission in Gen to make it to high rank
I don't care about them. Not my fault if you only hang out with people from your special ed class.
>only half the people the bought Bloodborne finished it
This is true for every game, not only on PSN.
The fact that each ending in Bloodborne has at least 15% obtainment rate makes Bloodborne accessible for casuals, and Monster Hunter numbers wouldn't be that different.
It's also pretty funny that you mentioned a game that was a hit on PS4 and surclassed the original expectations in terms of sales.
97% of the players couldn't beat La-Mulana on Steam, that's my definition of game that's not accessible for casuals.
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>>379855445
I'd love if they put all those exercises int he same mission.
Like a timeless mission where you go around all the areas in a map and each one has a different focus
ie: Kill some small mosnters in area 1, gather some things in 2, craft/cook in area 3, etc.

this way with only 1 mission you do everything. It would be a bit long, yeah, but at least you'd avoid having to leave and start a new mission every time, with all the loading times it takes.
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>>379855812
Another dead site sadly. But this one has an archive. Such a good site too.

https://archive.fo/W0Wz
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>>379855275
Tell me your name first
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>tfw it's coming to the switch and there's nothing you can do about it

:^)
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>>379856097
Also the archive is from 2012, so the numbers are outdated compared to the one in this >>379854642
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>>379850026
And you do know that the PSP is dead, right? Japan isn't interested in home console monhan, and the Vita is kill. The 3DS inherited the largest share of the PSP's userbase, and sales have been quite impressive, even if nothing reached the record high set by Freedom Unite.
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>>379856448
>and sales have been quite impressive
It really is. They've all been selling a consistent 4 mil without rereleases and on a system with about 2mil less players.
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>>379856554
that MH XX for switch or it's hinting a new MH for switch?

or what the fuck is this about
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>>379856705
Do you even belong in a sales thread if you don't know something this basic? Fuck off
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>>379856696
20mil
My bad
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>>379855969
I think you're giving casuals too much credit though. I know people that are autistically good and people that play a lot of games but suck. Monster hunter is more effort to beat than a souls game and souls games terrify casuals
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>>379848083
I'd buy it as long as it's not frotier shit, but I doubt it's happening.
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Monster Hunter
2004/3/11
PS2 - 288,559

Monster Hunter G
2005/1/20
PS2 - 237,393
Wii - 236,020

Monster Hunter Portable
2005/12/1
PSP - 1,122,604

Monster Hunter 2(Dos)
2006/2/16
PS2 - 692,228

Monster Hunter Portable 2nd
2007/2/22
PSP - 1,723,187

Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G
2008/3/27
PSP - 4,206,723

Monster Hunter 3(Tri)
2009/8/1
Wii - 1,077,273

Monster Hunter Portable 3rd
2010/12/1
PSP - 4,801,854
PS3 - 441,375

Monster Hunter 3(Tri)G
2011/12/10
3DS - 1,924,664
WiiU - 221,586

Monster Hunter 4
2013/9/14
3DS - 3,556,119

Monster Hunter 4G
2014/10/11
3DS - 2,594,453

Monster Hunter Cross
2015/11/28
3DS - 2,816,712

Monster Hunter Double Cross
2017/3/18
3DS - 1,570,653

Monhan Nikki Poka Poka Airou Mura
2010/8/26
PSP - 583,536

Monhan Nikki Poka Poka Airou Mura G
2011/8/10
PSP - 245,210

Airou Puzzle
2012/7/19
PSP - 10,093

Monhan Nikki Poka Poka Airou Mura DX
2015/9/10
3DS - 112,317

Monster Hunter Stories
2016/10/08
3DS - 297,206

PSP - 11,854,368 (not including spinoffs, 4 games, staggered releases)
3DS - 12,462,601 (not including spinoffs, 5 games, back to back releases )

http://game00.blog.jp/monsterhunter.html
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>>379856403
>All these delusional ninteniggers that conviently choose not to remember the leak
>MHX leaked
>Said Switch would get its unique monster hunter
>PS4 would get MH5
Your asspained tears are going to be delicious :^)
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>>379850201
Yeah but it's still a MH game that couldn't be released on a non-Nintendo console if there was a contract.
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>>379857236
That unique monhun will be 5 sonny Jim.
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>>379856076
the localization team for monster hunter generations suggested this exact idea, along with showing monster hitzones in those information books you can buy

both ideas were shot down by the dev team, they said they liked the ideas but did not have the money or time to implement them
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>>379857236
>All these delusional ninteniggers that conviently choose not to remember the leak
You're talking about the anonymous /.v/ post that predicted MH5 for PS4 and Monster Hunter Portable on Switch, right?
You'd do well to recall it in greater detail, since it actually completely failed to predict MHXX, and dated the Monster Hunter Portable game for 2017. Nothing from the "leak" has come true. You got duped.
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>>379857586
>Still forgetting the actual leak
>He doesnt know
lol.
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>>379857236
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

Yeah I remember sonyfags getting btfo last month it was hilarious
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>>379857236
You got it the other way round buddy
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>>379857567
Well, let's hope they listen to them for MH5 whenever it comes.
I like how Capcom tries to keep the core gameplay the same through all games but that shouldn't stop them from trying to improve the game in every way possible.
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I just want a MH on xbox.
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>there are people who unironically want an open world monster hunter
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>>379848480
that's literally what they're doing for the new ps4 one, it's a westernized, bastardized monhun in an attempt to lure in western fans.
hopefully it doesn't fuck with them porting over the actual monster hunters or alienate actual fans
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>>379858220
How would that improve the game?
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>>379858261
There's always frontier.
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>>379858261
Monster Hunter Worlds will be localized Frontier for xbone
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>>379857043
I hate the shift to the 3ds, it always felt awkward to control and hurt my hands after 2+ hours of playing kind of like KI uprising.
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>>379858746
How can you experience more pain with the 3ds than you did with the PSP?
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>>379852397
handhelds sales are down over that generation, players have simply gone on with their lives

3ds was still the best handheld option for sales
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>>379848083
I would buy it but I would honestly prefer it on the Switch. I like handheld MH more, the issue was just that the 3DS is garbage.
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>>379848083

>People don't want an open world MH.

Why?

If there's one series that can benefit from open world mechanics, it's MH.

I'm personally sick of always fighting in a static arena the size of a hockey rink.

What are the arguments against open world?
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>>379858395
Well, I just said that. Putting all or the main mechanics of the game in a single but long quest that gives each mechanic it's time and makes you practise it a bit teaches new players the fundamentals of the game, in a single mission, avoiding starting several missions and by making it optional also lets veterans to skip it and go straigh for the game.
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>>379858395
Convenience and cutting out fluff is an improvement
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>>379850036
No it is not.
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>>379848083
Any console MH is fine, as long as it has stable online. Hunting monsters with friends is the best.
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>>379858943
I just did, psp felt somewhat natural. With the 3ds you can't even describe to someone how your suppose to hold it, it's so bad.
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>>379859265
>If there's one series that can benefit from open world mechanics, it's MH.
Not everything works in an open world environment anon. MH is a prime example of that seeing as they would have to change how monsters act completely especially when it comes to flying monsters.
They would either have to remove the stamina bar too or give you a vehicle of some kind to traverse the world which would quickly get tedious.
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>>379853142
Just how casual is MH?
Is it basically just hunt monsters, grind for stuff, repeat?
Haven't played any but just don't want the possibility of them adding qte's, less optional side quests, items etc. stuff like that for the sake of introducing it to new players.
If they could keep all the stuff from a normal MH game intact to consoles I'd buy it sure.
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>>379859265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q0OosCOxrw
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>>379859265
Having a stable controlled space let's devolopers tweak and fix problems that could happen during the fight, as it always stays the same.

That's why Open world games tend to have so many bugs and problems, because as anything can happen anywhere, the amount of situations is enormous and problems emerge all over the time.
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>>379859964
Bugs happen in a physics based game. MH don't rely on physics, it's animation based.
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>implying MH on the PS4 wouldn't sell like hotcakes
They're sitting on a gold mine but they don't realize it.
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>>379859905
Meant for >>379859762
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>>379858349
I would expect that from Nintendo.
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>>379859704
>psp felt somewhat natural.
It and it's younger brother weren't exactly designed with ergonomics in mind. Not to mention the glossy finish that was on every model of the PSP.
Then we come to the problem of holding the thing. Cradling it in your palms doesn't all for adequate use of the shoulder buttons or grip for that matter because of the curved design of the system.
If you were to cradle it in the fingers then you're reducing both overall comfortability and it looks fairly strange to boot.

I find it strange that people can play it without cramping up within 30 minutes.
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>>379860180
They only take Japanese audience into consideration

>japan
>buying home consoles
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>>379860517
Why do you need to lie in every post?
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>>379860202
Okay?
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>>379857946
>>379857996
>Leak already said MH5 on PS4
>Nintenigger denial in full force

All going according to plan
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>>379860691
The leak turned out to be a hoax you sonyggger.
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>>379860629
I don't think you read this properly anon.
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>>379860810
Did you? Explain to me
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>>379859265
You would have to rework the entire MH game. With the way it works now, the map could be BOTW size and it probably still wouldn't work unless you vastly decreased the monsters in size or significantly decreased the amount of monsters. Doing the latter would kill MH's enjoyment completely because the game would probably stop being equipment based. It would likely have a small amount of armor and weapons and use levels to make up the difference, turning it into another boring RPG. Doing the former means it'll become like XCX where the map is riddled with shit except it won't work as well because XCX's genre allowed a lot of monsters to be non-hostile, it won't work that way in MH. You'd also have to completely rework the stamina system or movement. If characters ran at the speed they do now, it would take years to cross a single area. If they ran faster though, monsters would have to be faster and then MH would become less about positioning and learning monster patterns and turn into fucking God Eater.

There's no need to change MH when the genre it's in now is completely fine. There's also no need to have another open world game in an already saturated genre.
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>>379860894
Funny how Toukiden 2 can do open world without changing the gameplay.
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>>379860778
>He still doesnt know
Holy shit anon try to remember
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>>379860691
Feels good to be a sonybro
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>>379861012
Toukiden 2 isn't exactly the best example anon.
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>>379861237
It is an example of area-based hunting game changing to open world-based hunting game.
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>>379860629
I don't need to lie. It's been pretty fucking clear for the past 10 years capcom doesn't want to release moho thats not a port on a home console. Are you even a fan of the series? You're a fucking retard
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>>379861320
It's also an example of a game that didn't transition too well.
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>>379861646
How so? The gameplay didn't change.
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>>379860629
Look ma, I'm posting alternative facts!
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>>379861721
What are you implying?
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>>379852021
>not wanting some SOTC with flashy monsters
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Monster Hunter peaked with 2nd G and the series really went downhill after Tri. I gave up on MH long time ago
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>>379861814
He doesn't know what those charts ate for.
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>>379861995
You missed out on the golden age of monhun son.
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>>379861995
3U and 4U are great though.
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>>379861851
>wanting to spend 70% of a game walking an empty map
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>>379861721
>when you appeal to core fans
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>>379862159
>locked to a shitty manchildrens console with terrible p2p connection
"Golden age"
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>>379862371
Yeah I agree. The PSP was kind of a nightmare.
I mean who's idea was it that contorting your hand was a good way to play?
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>>379862552
>PSP
>The most popular console in Japan
Kek keep trying the "no u" arguments nintenigger.
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>>379860471
I don't know who you're trying to convince, it's subjective i guess. I just don't like it on 3ds and couldn't play for extended periods of time which annoyed me. I really hope it gets a console release, it would be enough to get me back into the series. Now more than ever would be a good time for it considering the monhun movie.
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>>379863137
>The most popular console in Japan
You mean the home of the NEET and manchildren?
Tell me more.
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>>379848083
>Would you like to get the franchise on the PS4?

No shit. People have been begging for this since PS3. But PS4 is now the flagship console to graphically behold, so there should be no excuse now. Plus the popularity is through the roof.

Putting a Monster Hunter game on it will be easy. Getting people to buy that Monster Hunter game will be the challenge. Alot of potential buyers of the game have been turned away from the franchise due to the god damn claustrophobic controls. Nothing is streamlined. Everything has an unnecessary-as-balls delay animation. Even Dark Souls 3 has a more forgiving control scheme and item consumption animation (slightly).

Multiplayer should be no problem as well. Especially compared to Nintendo's dated-as-fuck online capabilities.

Also, did Sony finally buy the rights back for this game?
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>>379863174
It's not that I'm trying to convince anyone it's just that the two systems are really, really poorly designed.
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>>379863451
>Multiplayer should be no problem as well.
you say that but PSN still rarely works as intended.

Also there's simply no audience for monhun on consoles anymore.
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>>379863787
The older MH audience goes where MH is.
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>>379863787
>Also there's simply no audience for monhun on consoles anymore.

Because the damn game has been getting released on Nintendo handhelds since forever. Can't expect people to maintain interest when it's not on console, or on the console brand that they own.
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>>379848083
Sure but I feel like they would feel the need to casualize it for the normies if it did come to PS4 and that doesn't exactly sound appealing to me. Not that it isn't already pretty casualized but still they would need to make big changes for it to succeed as a console only MH game.
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>>379863354
3DS already has that title especially since its so popular here home of manchildren.

Prove me wrong.
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>>379863787
>psn rarely works
Huh?
>no audience
There's definitely an audience and normies would flock to it considering it's similar to dark souls but more or less casual on a surface level.
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>>379863451
>item consumption animation
Goddamn I will never understand this fucking argument. The item animations are like that so you use your brain and use an opening that should have been used to attack to heal. It's a way to punish you for getting hit and in case of other items the animations are there so they hold a risk before you can get the benefits.

The people who complain about this shit wouldn't know good game design even if they got hit by it. You're making me remember that day I ended up reading a god eater thread with people complaining about the same shit nonstop because everything wasn't instantaneous like in that game.
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>>379863787
>Also there's simply no audience for monhun on consoles anymore.
lol.
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>>379864095
What does that have to do with anything exactly?
It didn't sell well on Sony or Nintendo home consoles when compared to their handhelds.
Brands literally have nothing to do with it.

>>379863960
They also don't want to be confined to a console
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>>379864170
None of the superior mh clones on ps3 and ps4 already do any casualizing.
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>>379848083
Who the fuck is voting "no"? I could at least understand some people who'd buy a Switch for MH, but why in hell would you not buy an MH game for PS4? Don't tell me you don't have one.
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>>379864219
So the PSP suddenly isn't the most popular console in Japan any more?
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>>379864703
>but why in hell would you not buy an MH game for PS4?
The real question is why would you buy MH for Home console let alone one where the only multiplayer option requires payment.
Also I don't quite fancy being booted out of my games because PSN is fucking up.
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>>379864564
Only decent souls clone I thought was pretty good was Soul Sacrifice and it's not really that similar. Others I played were barely passable at best.
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>>379848083

As long as the game has fluid combat like Dragon's Dogma, with the same enemy climbing capabilities, and extensively thoughtout classes and and movesets, then I am all game. The MH on the Wii U was the only one I played. And I gotta say, having the same 2 movesets per weapon made combat seem lethargic as shit. You are just sitting there spamming the same one or two moves. After 5 or 6 hours of the game, you really wish you could do more with the switch axe. Or much more with the dual blades besides slash slash slash..... slash slash slash..... slash slash R-button slashslashslash..... slashslashslash......slashslashslash....... slash slash slash...... slash slash slash..... etc.

EXPANSIVE movesets
Well thoughtout classes
FLUID combat system
PRETTY graphics

That is all you need to win over a good 45% of PS4 owners who have never touched this franchise.
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>>379848083
No. Monhun Team hasn't exactly had a great relationship with Sony in the past, and they and capcom are penny pinchers. Every yen they save from spending on trying to figure out how the fuck to port to entirely different systems with different OS and structures is a yen that goes into making the games they do make better.

You and your ilk are under the delusion that Monster Hunter will suddenly become this magical high-def ultrarealistic megabeautiful beast if it's made on PS4. It won't. It'll still look like it did back on the Wii, just with higher resolution textures and smaller UI elements. This is because Monster Hunter has never, ever, EVER been about graphics unless it was some b-team of some other company making an MMO entry, which most actual fans typically see as the dog shit it is.

I'll follow Monster Hunter wherever it goes. No matter how shitty it looks. That is what makes me a true fan of it. Even if it went on PS4 or Xbox (which is incredibly unlikely) and they stopped developing for Nintendo systems, I'd still follow it. Your constant begging and hoping and rumour mongering and misinformation is tiring and pathetic. Fuck off and stop hoping that an actual monster hunter game will ever come back to Sony systems. Even if this Monster Hunter: World absurd rumour is true, which I highly doubt, all rumours point to it being some half-assed open-world shit, which is absolutely the route that Monster Hunter should never go.
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>>379848325

Not in the west, though. And they'd likely market an MMO with World in its title.
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>>379864976
>why would you buy MH for Home console
Controller
Decent framerates
More content thanks to more powerful hardware
Better visuals in general
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>>379864976
>one where the only multiplayer option requires payment.
They all do now.
But I of course would prefer to have MH on PC out of all platforms. Of course the chances of a mainstream Japanese game releasing on PC are very slim. So in this case PS4 would be the second best choice.
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>>379865251
This
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>>379865540
Switch supports local multi anon.

>>379865503
Aside from the controller there's no reason why that wouldn't be possible on a handheld.
Better visuals will never happen.
It's monster hunter you goon.
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>>379865251
What you're describing isn't even Monster Hunter, and considering your only game is Tri (which I doubt you even got through low rank in) your opinion is shit. Monster Hunter isn't fucking fucking DMC, and believe me, getting a triple charge GS on the head or landing a CB ultra burst is satisfying as fuck 100 hours into the game
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>>379864382
>someone is actually defending this cancer

Do you get up after eating a McDonald's burger to flex your muscles or pat your stomach for 8 to 9 seconds? Do you do a little dance after every sip of soda that you take?

Your character is in an environment where a dinosaur can pop out at any given moment, i.e., you are in a literal DANGER ZONE at all times. So while take the time out to do a stupid little dance after consuming something when you should be on guard and twitchy at all times? The animations are unnecessary. They should be taken out.
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>>379865503
>more content thanks to more powerful hardware
MH4U has had the most content the series has ever had and it was on a portable. "more powerful hardware" doesn't mean "more content" in any world since it's all about the medium it's stored on.

>controller
You mean "grips", right?

>decent framerates
graphics whoring

>better visuals in general
graphics whoring
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>>379865757
>Better visuals will never happen
The sole fact that it wouldn't be on a tiny screen means that it would have better visuals.
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>>379864714
>any more
Bingo. Now go get a better reading comprehension instead of dragging out a dozen replies.
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>>379865907
>The sole fact that it wouldn't be on a tiny screen means that it would have better visuals
It's hilarious how you think that.
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>ITT: People who know shit about MH talking like they know what's best for the franchise

Sonybros are truly the worst
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I'd buy a MH game on the PS4, but, I don't believe it's the best platform for it.

If you're going to make a non-mobile version of the game, you may as well put it on all platforms.
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>>379865943
This

>>379865989
This but the opposite
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>>379866027
Sonybros have been posting facts this entire thread

Nintenbros are trying to say Nintendo MH has sold more then the series ever has since switching when thats blatantly false.
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>>379865943
So your argument is pretty much pointless then since it relies on that fact huh.
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>>379865757
It doesn't have to be MHO tier graphics. Just playing on a big screen with a proper controller in hands is all the game's missing to capture some new players. I know a few who really want to get into the game, but they outright refuse to play on a handheld.
I know Japs love their portables, but the westerners - not as much. But Capcom did say they want to expand MH in the west, and specifically the home console market. We'll see.

Either way, I don't mind playing on a handheld that much. But when it comes to consoles PS4 is a far better option than the other two.
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>>379866027
These are people who regularly consume and praise cinematic movie games, if they had their way they would add 100 bazillion cutscenes and
an unnecessary story to the series to please their cuck sensibilities.
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>>379866313
The fact is MH was better on Sony platforms then Nintenbro platforms thats literally it. MH fans are playing the game on 3DS because they have to not because they want to.

Nintendo being underpowered garbage hardware doesnt help either.
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>>379865251
>spamming the same one or two moves
>slashslashslash
>slash slash
>slashslashslash
You make it seem like the combat on any other game is any more complicated than that.

Let me tell you something. Radical combos with flips and twirls are boring as fuck because all that sort of combat ever boils down to is button spam and a whole lot of empty flash. This is why Monster Hunter combat is GOOD - with a limited moveset, every move matters, every move has its niche, and learning to use them all in the right place, at the right time, is part of what makes it engaging.

>EXPANSIVE movesets
Empty and hollow movesets.

>Well thoughtout classes
Every weapon is different.

>FLUID combat system
Fuck off. Fluid is such a bullshit term nowadays. To developers, that ends up meaning "no-thought, the game practically plays itself". Worse yet is when, to a lot of players, that means being able to dodge whenever they like no matter what, which takes a lot of the challenge out of any sort of combat system

>PRETTY graphics
Fuck off. Monster Hunter doesn't need to be pretty to be good. That's vapid and shallow.

Instead of turning the game into literally everything it is not, why not just find different games that fit those criteria instead of complaining that Monster Hunter would be better if it mimicked those games? Why are you trying to fuck over the people who are satisfied with what it offers?
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>>379866313
And you claimed the 3ds era for MH was the "golden age" and I told you it wasnt.
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> Game sells better on a portable console made for grown ups rather than a brightly coloured mario-machine made for 5 year olds.

Wow. Who would have thought?
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>>379866847
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DELETE THIS
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>tfw you win an argument
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>>379866702
>Let me tell you something. Radical combos with flips and twirls are boring as fuck because all that sort of combat ever boils down to is button spam and a whole lot of empty flash. This is why Monster Hunter combat is GOOD - with a limited moveset, every move matters, every move has its niche, and learning to use them all in the right place, at the right time, is part of what makes it engaging.
Come the fuck on. Move properties don't have much to do with animation. Also look at GS and say it again that every move matters. At most you get those use it 3% of the time niches for shit like horizontal slash and 90% of your brainpower is concentrated on landing that charge or unsheathe. I have seen games with bigger moveset and better niches for every move than MH.
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>>379865806
>
Do you get up after eating a McDonald's burger to flex your muscles or pat your stomach for 8 to 9 seconds? Do you do a little dance after every sip of soda that you take?
Do you fight 20 foot tall monsters on a regular basis?

Muh realism. Yeah. You're fighting dinosaurs. We've already left the realm of realism. Monster Hunter is a goofy game. If you don't like it, stop playing it and stop bitching about it.

The alternative here is to have a really, really fucking long chugging animation, which is boring as fuck for achieving the same thing. The flex gives the game character, even if it is goofy character.
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>>379866702
>every move has its niche
Oh yeah, that Lance sweep surely has its niche
(You), by the way
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Why did it move to Nintendo anyway? Wasn't it the hot game for PSP?
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>>379849314
>entire stage
>unavoidable
what kind of fucking game design is that
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>>379867159
PS Vita is dead as fuck. 3DS is pretty successful. Not rocket science.
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>>379866702
>You make it seem like the combat on any other game is any more complicated than that.

Combos mean everything. Hell, even combos on top of combos. A single slash attack is as dull in a game as an unsharpened number 2 pencil.
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>>379866172
>Nintenbros are trying to say Nintendo MH has sold more then the series ever has since switching
Except that's true just not for the reasons you expect.
They've sold more on Nintendo consoles solely because of there's been more games on handhelds for the audience to buy there was also a consistency with sales as every release from 4 onwards has sold a solid 4 mil.
With that said there were also no rereleases on the 3DS like there was for the PSP.
At the same time the home console games sold better on Nintendo systems compared to Sony home consoles.

>>379866634
You might want to read this too.
>MH fans are playing the game on 3DS because they have to not because they want to.
Then they would have moved to the Wii U and we would have seen a shift and subsequent games would have been on that or the PS4 if they sorted out relations with Sony (hah).

The MH fanbase doesn't want a console game anon. That's a simple fact that you need to come to terms with.
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>>379865806
Because fucking balance. If you could instantly heal like in God Eater it would become a mindless game.

I've been playing GE with my friends these days and while it's mindless fun it's way too easy and forgiving. The funny thing is that from my friends the one who has played all the GE games keeps dying every single minute while the ones who played MH die rarely because they know how to approach monster games and aren't mashing the buttons like crazy. It's not like getting hit matters when you can heal in less than a second.
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>>379867312
Except they announced all the 3DS games before Vita was even released
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>>379867159
Basically Capcom wanted to bring over Portable 3rd HD but ran into issues regarding the adhoc play. They asked Sony for help and what they essentially recieved was a big fuck you from them.
Which is why you can't play online with P3rdHD in the west if you import.

After that Nintendo just went,
>Hey we'll help you out if you make a game for us.
And here we are in the present day.

I think there was some crap about a trophy thing too that the MH team didn't want to deal with but I have no idea how true that is.
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>a non dead MH thread
>"gee I wonder what are all the anons in it hunting?"
>it's another console war shitshow thread
WHAT ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS HUNTING RIGHT NOW?
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>>379850805

you're a fucking idiot. MH is wayyy easier than Souls and the gameplay is far more balanced. Fuck Souls
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>>379867080
>"I jack off to Meowstress too many times"
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>>379867647
MH5 is gonna be on PS4.
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>>379867647
What did you expect?
The topic is "Monster Hunter for PS4". You know with a title like that it's going to attract those with sour grapes from both sides
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>>379867320
this

I don't think you guys know the satisfaction of pulling off a successful combo. And also learning and discovering newer combos as you play a game like this. Capcom is supposed to be the KING of combos. They are literally the godfather of having combo attacks in games.
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>>379867592
But you can play p3rd hd online if you import.
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>>379866634
Literally none of Nintendo's platforms that Monster Hunter has been on has been weaker than the PSP, to which Monster Hunter was trapped for aeons. Hell, the N3DS is roughly as powerful as the PS2 as evidenced by its Snake eater Port, just lacking in the resolution department.

True, I am playing the game on 3DS because that's where monster hunter is. My only want in this regard is to play Monster Hunter. Wanting to play it on a specific system is fucking cancer. Just play the fucking game you fucking mongoloid.

>the fact is MH was better on Sony platforms
PS3 P3rd did not look any better than P3rd. P3rd looked considerably worse than 3U, 4U, and Gen because of its somehow even shittier resolution.

The fact is that P3rd got fucked over by Sony, bad. It is on record that the Monster Hunter team WANTED to localize it, but they couldn't because of Sony's absurd regulations and unwillingness to apply a patch to their ad hoc online system. Nintendo has had no such problems with Monster Hunter, with Ryozo actually saying that he liked what Nintendo offers - as much can be seen in how well they've utilized the second screen.

If you are actually a fan of Monster Hunter, you'll accept these facts and move on with your life.
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>>379867647
Doing Gore Magala HR in 4U. Is the Gore LR/HR set better than the Velociprey S I'm using right now?
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>YFW ITS SCORPIO EXCLUSIVE
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>>379867881
I've tried.
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>>379867847
>cuhhrayyzee fags trying to ruin yet another series

Stop talking about games you know jack dick about, how hard is that.
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>>379863451
Capcom doesn't want to invest AAA game dev resources into Monster Hunter. They also probably don't want to be responsible for the worst looking game in the PS4 library should they keep the budget similar to the 3DS'. Monster Hunter is going to stay on handheld platforms so fucking deal with it.
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>>379867948
PSP has higher resolution than 3DS
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>>379867969
Mix Gore is for S+1, right? Just check the damage multiplier on sharpness levels for your weapon and compare it with AuL or w/e Velociprey gives. And remember than AuL only adds raw damage, unlike sharpness modifiers, in case you're using an elemental weapon.
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>>379866702
>>FLUID combat system
>Fuck off. Fluid is such a bullshit term nowadays.

Dark Arisen pretty much set the standard for what all open world Capcom hack n slash games should be like now. Fluid, in terms of games like that one. Not retard tier Skyrim fluidity where you're just running around flailing your sword at enemies.
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>>379868140
And it still looked like horseshit and wasn't powerful enough for fucking darkened caves of all things.
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>>379868012
Six teraflops is enough to handle MH WorldZ and its two monsters violating the law of thermodynamics, all in the same zone.
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>>379867948
>Hell, the N3DS is roughly as powerful as the PS2 as evidenced by its Snake eater Port, just lacking in the resolution department.
I'm sorry did you even try Snake Eater on 3DS? It was basically unplayable
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>>379868245
So it's not about resolution. It's about MT Frameworks Mobile
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>>379868012
Sounds like corporate suicide
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>>379868028
Did you have half the brain to use your JP account and download AHP like you would to play MHP3 online?
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>>379867157
It did, at least. Prior to 4U, it was the only move that the Lance had that had super armour, and extended super armour at that, enough to land the third poke safely. Even now that the third poke has super armour, it still provides a little bit more for when working with teammates such as those that have longswords, and it's still great for dealing with harassing mooks.

>>379867320
>combos mean everything
They mean nothing if they're piss easy to pull off, or are just a matter of memorization rather than actual skill. In Monster Hunter, a combo is when you flinch the monster multiple times into a trip, and that is satisfying as fuck to pull off. And even then, there is absolutely nothing about combos that is more satisfying to pull of than a last second counter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsQeIKX6XB8

>>379867847
Extended absurd combos are exactly why I stay away from traditional 2d arcade-style fighting games.
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>>379868521
>Did you have half the brain to use your JP account and download AHP like you would to play MHP3 online?
You aren't too smart are you anon.
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>>379868394
Yes. I did. And it was fine.
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>>379868609
Why didn't you?
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>>379859704
3DS hurts after pretty long sessions yes, but don't tell me that clawing in PSP felt "natural" because that's bullshit and you know it
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>>379868663
>Why didn't you?
>implying I didn't
Not too fond of using that brain are you.
Don't you think that would have been the first method I tried?
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>>379868769
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631515-monster-hunter-portable-3rd-hd-ver/61019082
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>>379866445
You mean like 4U, The best entry in the series?
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>>379867157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl43_ebW1UY&t=1m37s
>Oh yeah, that Lance sweep surely has its niche
Joke's on you, fuckface.
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>>379868434
we talking capcom here, it would not be the first time
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>>379848083
Sure, why not. More people should be able to play games in the franchise, especially since people here can't understand the concept of buying multiple systems.
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>>379863787
>Also there's simply no audience for monhun on consoles anymore.
Fucking kek. Me and my buddies used to play a fuckton of the original MH on the PS2, but quit after they started making it only for handhelds.
There's a lot of potentional buyers, and a untapped audience for MH on home console.
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>>379868906
Did you seriously try and say that 4U is filled with cutscenes.
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>>379868930
>It's not a Mantis weapon
*cough* HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO US
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>>379869216
Well
It kind of is, every time you meet a new monster.
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>>379848083
Just having a true open world (NOT necessarily sandbox) monster hunter would be a god send. These games were literally built to eventually evolve into that. I'm going to be disappointed but I can wish. Just tired of the same fucking formula of
>pick quest
>fight in predetermined arena
>get parts
>rinse repeat
Just evolve monster hunter/Capcom
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>>379869214
>and a untapped audience for MH on home console.
An untapped audience of about 10k people world wide. In other words none worth the time and effort.
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>>379868532
>prior to 4U
I meant "Prior to Gen"
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>>379861205
p5 can be emulated now, your nigger pic is outdated
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>>379868532
What I don't understand about people who want combos is that in G or even High Rank, having a big drawn out combo will get you killed very easily, especially for the much more flighty and aggressive monsters like Zinogre or Rajang. Pretty much the only time you would see it in action anyways is when the monsters tripped, which doesn't really change anything.
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>>379869365

>These games were literally built to eventually evolve into that.

It is literally the opposite you fucking retard

Open world MH would have to change so much that it wouldn't even be MH anymore
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>>379869473
>Lemme just talk out of my ass and pull these made up numbers!
Ok.
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>>379851387
Capcom doesn't want to improve monster hunter. Honestly I would rather them evolve the world design and gameplay but all they've done the past few games is rehash old monsters that nobody cares about.
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>>379850785
>has no wing membranes
>can still fly

well oh fucking kay
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>>379869365
Monster Hunter IS evolving. Just because it's not evolving in the way you like (which, to say, devolving to anyone who recognizes the necessity of zones) doesn't mean it's not.
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>>379869658
Oh so all of you and your friends then are the console audience?
Not to mention the main monhun audience that only play on handhelds especially in Japan where it's an extremely popular portable game.

Deny it all you want but there's no reason why they should alienate the majority of the fanbase for more work and smaller gain.
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>>379869715
It grows the membrane according to the element it is currently using. As to why it can fly, why magic of course.
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>>379852517

listen to
>>379853142


He's right. MH4U was basically the best game since MHFU. But even then, you only get real difficulty at mid-G Rank and up if you don't use Insect Glaive. And MHGen... omg have you seen that game? It's a fucking joke in comparison. They literally went full Devil May Cry/Ninja Gaiden but without any of the difficulty. Spins to wins, jump/mount spamming. It's piss easy.
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>>379869831
God damn it looks so bad
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>>379867647
My 3DS' charger died on me and I can't afford a new one so I can't play 4U anymore
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>>379869831
Show me the style with axe mode phial charging.
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>>379869992
>They literally went full Devil May Cry/Ninja Gaiden but without any of the difficulty. Spins to wins, jump/mount spamming. It's piss easy.
So what you're saying is that you've never actually played generations.
Because you can't use arts whenever you like you retard.
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HOW ABOUT WE ALL PUT ASIDE THE ARGUMENTS FOR TWO SECONDS
AND APPRECIATE THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk5cUQd2NfQ

>>379870115
but
they're 20 bucks
literally skip a lunch or two
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>>379869992
To be fair, hyper Silverlos/Goldian, Jho and Rajang can still one shot you just as well as apex monster could in 4U. Adept just makes the game easy mode, but if you don't use it, the difficulty is about the same. But you don't get as many armor skills as you would in a G-rank game.
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>>379869541

It will punish the spammers who spam them on higher ranked monsters, obviously. Combos will be good to add variety to the combat.

I think a grappling hook weapon would be a cool alternative to the wepons. I'm not sure what it could be used for. Perhaps there could be a bomber class. The bomber would have a variety of bombs he/she could use as their main weapon. They can grapple themselves to the enemies Batman style and attach a bomb(s) to the monster for good damage. How Capcom will Balance this class out would be up to them.
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>>379869992
>Spins to wins, jump/mount spamming. It's piss easy.
Good job admitting that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Mount spamming is worse than 4U even with aerial styles because they've increased the mount threshold, and almost all aerial weapons are shit.
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>>379870236
>20 bucks
that's what i earn in a month anon
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>>379859964
There are literally bugs/broken hitboxes still permeating monster hunter. And that has NOTHING to do with the space. In fact, giving players more space to take advantage of would solve a lot of the problems people have with several monsters.

Like Nibelsnarf in the remake of Dunes in MH1. It's the worst designed map for his moveset. Also, the multitude of random bumps they put which break the flow of combat and fuck up basic dodge rolling. And that's in a closed map.

No open worlds don't hurt the potential design if you're not retarded about how you design it.

And no, developers that put forth effort and actually care enough don't have insane bugs all over the open world. Dragon's Dogma has almost no bugs that I've ever witnessed. Zelda BOTW, same. If you're siting Bethesda, well that's a company problem. They are always shit at making open world games.
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>>379870314
>Perhaps there could be a bomber class.
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>>379870486
are you a third worlder? if not just get autismbux or something
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>>379848083
according to leaks it looks like Microsoft is getting it
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>>379861646
It plays fine. It works every bit as good as the original. "I don't like it" isn't an argument, anon.
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>>379870314
>Perhaps there could be a bomber class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKVotYjTjrs
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Love how no one even questions the fact that the trademark for MH:World is literally only for the US

This is MHXX's localization name retards
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>>379870227
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> No: 200 votes
wtf is wrong with this board
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>>379870826
>This is MHXX's localization name retards
Pretty good way to kill the game sales since people will assume its a new game and not a shoddy G-Rank patch of Gen.
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>>379867368
There is no reason they couldn't remove those silly animations. Balance my ass. It makes it almost impossible in higher ranks to actually use anything unless you wait for "that one move" or just leave the fucking zone. The fact that they put armor skills to "solve" the problem shows that it literally doesn't fucking matter whether it's there or not. Hell they got rid of high speed gather in MHGen and just made that the default gather if you gather/carve more than once. Just do that with every one of those animations. Dark Souls made WAY more fucking sense and it still punishes the player for using items at inappropriate times. There is no excuse, you faggots will literally defend anything just to keep your precious memories.
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>>379870314
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>>379870864
That boy aint right
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>>379870826
>MHXX's localization name
I highly doubt that. If they re-branded Generations in the west just to sell it as a "new" game when its just Generations again it would be the dumbest fucking thing they've ever done with Monster Hunter, and probably just result in less sales.
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>>379870592
>are you a third worlder?
yes. I'm waiting to buy a chink one that costs 2 bucks
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>>379871014
>>379871150

There is quite literally no other explanation for it


The trademark for MH:World literally only exists for the US. If it's not MHXX its already another pre existing game not released in the West
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>>379870934
>being surprised that people have no need for it on consoles
>being surprised that people don't want to lose local multiplayer
>being surprised that no one wants it to get casualised
Really joggles the nobbles.
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>>379871126
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>>379848906
That's really interesting. They have training quests in the mainline game, but this would go a long way in helping noobies. I don't mind it. Doesn't effect how I play the game. Let em have it. More people that learn how to play, the better.
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>>379871285
>If it's not MHXX its already another pre existing game not released in the West
What if, now hear me out, Capcom decides to announce a new MH game in the West first? I mean, Capcom has said in the past they knew that Handheld MH wasn't enough to make the series grow in the west, so what if this is their attempt to get MH more popular there? What better place to attract western gamers attention then E3?
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>>379854813
Hmm are there options to play locally online with the 3ds yet? I remember it being these vpn options being a big thing in the ds and psp days.
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>>379851307
Well, I can understand you, as that's what I enjoy about the game. The problem is that most of the core audience, just doesn't think this way about these games. They need things like this. The benefit of this mode is that they can use it if they need it. And then players like us can just avoid it. It doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned. If anything it tells me there are actually taking the time to design their monsters and that's a good thing too.
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>>379867647
Just finished hunting Nerscylla in 4U. Love that set.
I'm new to MonHun but this is really fun so far and I haven't finished the story yet.
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>>379871828
>locally online
Excuse me?
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>>379871975
4th gen monsters are all awesome. Too bad 4U brought back so many 1st gen ones, because they're well not as polished to say the least. But it's still arguably the best game in the series to date.
I'm glad you're enjoying your time with this great game.
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>>379871992
Effectively an Ad hoc emulator like adhoc part was on the ps3 that tricks the game into thinking the other players are next to you.
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>>379862367
>thinking every open world game must be sandbox

>not stopping monster hunter at generations, clearly a fucking joke of a monster hunter game
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>>379871117
Just play MHO then. They streamlined and sped up everything for people like you.
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>>379872172
>4th gen monsters are all awesome.
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>>379871126
THOSE FUCKS SAID THIS WAS GONNA BE WORLDWIDE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>379872562
You heard me. Snek too.
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>>379872562
>hating on Naja
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>>379872562
Najarala is fine Pinball Najarala is a nightmare
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>>379872642
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>>379871523
>>379871126
When is DDO getting a western release?
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>>379848190
>>379848325
what's wrong with Frontier?
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>>379848083

When will you fags understand, the ONLY reason the switch is getting monster hunter is because it's a semi portable console. The portability is literally the only reason. Mohun is tailored to nips commuting to work
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>>379872731
What about Apex pinball?
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>>379873076
>Sonygros
>understanding
You're asking them to do something that their body physically rejects.
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>>379850441
The difference is that the PSP did not have to compete with mobage bullshit that everyone in japan loves so much now.
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>>379873472
And even then the 3DS still sold a solid 4mil in japan alone with 4.
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>>379848906
this just seems like a lazy way of teaching the player a very simple concept.
>>
when MH5
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I was wondering what the best way to get in to MonHun is. Realistically, I have no intention of online play and prefer grinding to solo stuff. With that in mind, is there a specific game to start with or should I just get the most recent one?
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>>379873647
You're overestimating casuals. They would even require a voice shouting IT'S GOING TO ATTACK WATCH OUT! to avoid the thing.
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>>379873854
P3rd, 3U or 4U.
Take your pick then move on to the rest.
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>>379848083
>Monster Hunter on PS4
I want to believe, but everytime I get hopeful about something it only leads to my disappointment.
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>>379873854
If you have a 3DS you could play 4U but if you don't then emulate Freedom Unite or Portable 3rd HD
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>>379873854
MH4U has the softest and most engaging opening of any Monster Hunter in recent memory. Start there.

The issue with it is the prevalence of Gen 1/2 chicken walker monsters, which do not translate well alongside Gen 3-4 better-designed monsters, but it's got the most content out of any Monster Hunter to date and is one of the most engaging.
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>>379872904

it's an mmo
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>>379873891
>>379873891
>They would even require a voice shouting IT'S GOING TO ATTACK WATCH OUT! to avoid the thing.
That would be a way better way to teach players that though.
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>>379872904
What ISN'T wrong with Frontier?
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>>379874309
meaning it's open world or something?
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>>379874062
>>379874121
>>379874217
Cool, thanks.
I'll look in to those and make my pick from there.
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>>379848083
>MH with decent framerate and graphics instead of some last gen shit because Shitendo can't into hardwares
I wish
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>>379874441

meaning it's shit
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>>379874331
Then you get the shitters who complain that there's no prompt in the main game
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>>379874424
Not much really.
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>>379874545
but why?
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>>379873351
Why not just fight a rajang?...
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>>379875298
You know everything the kiddies are complaining about?
Multiply that by 100.
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>>379874483
I should warn you that Monster Hunter has many factors that may turn it off to newcomers, so it's good to go in with at least some knowledge of how it works.

1) There is no exploration. You pick a task, then you're teleported to the area, and proceed through different zones to accomplish your task. This includes hunting monsters.

2) Once you've picked your weapon and armour, you're stuck with it for the whole quest. That can mean up to 30 minutes if you're new and/or unskilled.

3) Compared to typical action games, Monster Hunter controls like a tank. Every action is deliberate and either slow to perform or has long animations, even on the faster weapons. To veterans our idea of what is slow is a little different to those who have not played monster hunter. Every weapon has weight behind its attacks - build up, wind down, hitstop on striking the enemy hard enough. The longer / slower the attack, or the longer it takes to get to it, the stronger the move is likely to be.

4) Keep in mind these three words: Preparation, Planning, And Prediction. Preparation before the hunt, planning on what to expect from the monster as you're about to engage it, predicting what its next move or opening will be and reacting accordingly.

5) YOU CANNOT DODGE MID-ANIMATION. There are a couple or so weapons with multi-attack animations that might allow you to skip out in the middle, but generally speaking you can only dodge to cancel the recovery time following a strong attack. Monster Hunter has an extremely strong emphasis on COMMITMENT. Bayonetta this is not.

6) It may take some time before Monster Hunter, or one of its weapons, will "click" with you. It is not a game that you start having fun from the moment you get into it. It is a long haul game designed to last for hundreds of hours. It is a time:cost value game, one of the greatest of its kind.
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>>379875398
It's a joke quest, they do it a lot, like Yain with the moveset of a tigrex once it gets enraged
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>>379875483
the only complaints I hear about monster hunter are no healthbars or lock on. I don't care about people that complain about that kind of thing, they just don't understand the game
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>>379848083

IT WASN'T MADE FOR YOU!
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PLEASE DONT BE MOBAGE GARBAGE
PLEASE NO OPEN WORLD MEME
FUCKKKK
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>>379867657
Generally speaking, It takes more skill to not get hit in MH than in Souls, but Souls punishes you harder when you do get hit.
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>>379875807
They already have Explore for the mobile game so that's ruled out unless they announce a western release
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>>379875486
Coolio. I'll keep that in mind. I've heard the games are slow, and that's something I'm looking forward to. I adore long haul games, so hopefully I'll get in to the swing of things. Thanks!
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>>379867258
One person didn't get hit. It's an absurd amount of damage but it looks avoidable.
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>>379876060
More than likely it's simply dodge each of the smaller eruptions, then dive the big one to prevent being launched.
And making sure not to get hit as Ravi flops back down of course.
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>>379848083
>thread still up
>over 500 votes total in the strawpoll
You're alright sometimes, /v/
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>>379876020
Oh, and a few more things:

Every single weapon plays differently. Even the ones that might seem similar at first, like heavy bowgun versus light bowgun, or lance versus gunlance, are massively different in their execution. If you don't like one weapon, try another.

Raw physical damage is modified depending on the attack being used, meaning no two attacks deal the same amount of raw damage, even in multi-hit animations. ELEMENTAL damage on the other hand does not change, no matter what attack you use, except with Greatsword charged attacks and Switch Axe Element Phial Sword Mode attacks. This means that slower weapons are shit for elemental damage, and fast weapons are shit for raw damage, while slow weapons are strong on raw damage, and fast weapons are amazing for elemental damage. This also means that the Sword and Shield and Dual Blades won't hit their stride until you start looking up what monster elemental weaknesses are and making multiple weapons in each class for each element.

The values you see on your weapon are bloated in different ways depending on the weapon to give the player an idea of how strong it will be per-hit compared to other weapons. It's not an accurate portrayal of how much damage they're actually doing on any given hit, especially given how damage can be further modified by where you hit the monster as they have resistant points and weak points.
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>>379871285
>If it's not MHXX its already another pre existing game not released in the West
Frontier would fit the name.
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>>379848083
If it was a proper MH5? Not casualized? Not westernized? Not made easier, dumber or less complex? Not a movie tie-in? Not some open world meme game? Not some MMO?
Yes.

Will it ever happen?
No.
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>>379875594
oh, well they share the same animation skeleton, so it's a lot less obvious...
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>>379876902
>mfw people are expecting a new game announcement from something that isn't TGS
If they show anything at E3 it will be localization news
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I want to give Milsy all my horn coins!
and a big, wet, deep, adult kiss!
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So sick of being verbally abused by the Sony diehard loyalists on this board. I hope it is a fucking shit spin off because they take so much for granted in their everyday lives just to make other people as miserable as they are. Some of you in here? Just grow up. Monster Hunter is a Nintendo franchise now for the West. Anything else? Learn moon, import or play Online. This drive to shit on other people who enjoy the same games as you but on nothing more than console platform lines is doing nobody favors.
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Killing this thread...
WITH NO SURVIVORS
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Why not make it fucking multiplat instead of selling it out to the highest bidder? More profits that way.

People who were introduced to it on Sony consoles can play, and people who started the series with Tri on the Wii can also enjoy the new game.

Christ's sake.
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>>379879264
B-ball muh console wars
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>>379879264
Capcom is stupid.
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>>379879264
segregating the online playerbase is a fucking terrible idea
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>>379879508
Why not crossplay? It's all on P2P networks anyway and XX has 3ds/switch crossplay
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>>379848083
No, but I would pirate it on PC
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>>379879508
in the long run, having safespaces for both sonybros and nintentoddlers make sense
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>>379878759
>Complains about diehard loyalty from Sony fans then proceeds to gloat about it being exclusive to Nintendo

Practice what you preach.

People who own Sony consoles and people who own Nintendo consoles or play on the PC should all be able to play this series, as it's had games on each platform. I think even Xbox had some at one point, so include them, too. I don't know why Capcom doesn't capitalize on this considering what big jews they are.
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>>379880678
>I don't know why Capcom doesn't capitalize on this considering what big jews they are.
Funnily enough the MH team are the least jewish of the bunch.
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CONFIRMED MH DEVS AT MICROSOFT. NO ITSUNO. THIS IS NOT A DRILL

SONY JUST GOT BLOWN THE FUCK OUT.
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>>379848083
Yes as long as it's normal mainline MH made by Capcom.
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>>379879264
Because selling out and letting the highest bidder handle marketing, distribution, mp servers, etc is worth a shitload of money in and of itself. More profits don't mean much when the margin is razor thin
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>>379881394
Ono and Harada being buddies as always.

Those guys are always a charm.
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>>379873891
>>379873647
>>379871583
>>379855372
>>379850171
>>379848906
MHO is weird, it also has damage numbers and a heavy focus on hunter arts.
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>>379848083
There isn't a market for Monster Hunter on the PS4.
The only games that sell well on the PS4 are cinematic experiences, walking simulators, or dudebro games.
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>>379848083
>moving over to the ps4 would lose out on 42% of the western audience
Ouch, talk about killing the series.
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>>379883421
Objectively wrong.
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>>379884396
You might want to check the best selling PS4 games.
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>>379884396
>objectively wrong
But it's not.
Games like Horizon Zero Dawn and Fifa are the big sellers for PS4 while games like Nioh and other exclusives barely sold at all. The only games people buy on PS4 are the movie-like games or the generic multiplats.
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