Have you ever realized just how bad his """ga

Original poster here

I meant to post this link: http://steamspy.com/app/350200

Whoops! I hope you can

Forgive me ! lol

>>379832346

What kind of autism is this?

>>379832436
It tracks the number of owners of a game

On steam

>Production of Revolution 60 began in 2011, approximately a year after developer Brianna Wu met animator Amanda Stenquist-Warner through an advertisement on Craigslist
I think this sentence captures the essence of everything.

>>379832691
>2011
>working on it for like half a decade
>fuck all sales to show for it
so this is the power of socjus...

Why did her SJW LGBTQVDGHHZTCBUND friends buy it?

>>379832859

*didn't

>>379832280

Her game. She might be a shitty game dev, but that's no reason to misgender her.

>>379832859
they did
SJWs are not numerous, just loud and usually in positions of privilege on the internet.

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>>379832859
>>379832910
>Alphabet soup identifying people
>Buying games

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I was hoping she would chimp out.

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Osama did nothing wrong

>>379832859
>her
>>379832998
>her
>>379833161
>she

>>379832280
He's a trust fund baby. He could make a hundred Revolution 60s and it still wouldn't put a dent in his wallet.

>>379832998
>but that's no reason to misgender her
It is, if she misgender herself.

>it's a "/v/ shits on a game they never played before" episode

and measuring something by it's popularity is the dumbest thing you can do. by this logic, Twilight is amazing.

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>all those years of "women can make games too" and "muh opression"
>for this

Background? Who is this monster?

>more players than battleborn
makes you think.

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>>379833504
You haven't seen this game, have you?

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>>379833504
You haven't seen the game, have you?

http://steamspy.com/app/400910

>tranny shit sells over 1k copies
>actual good games struggle to sell 100k copies

not fair

>>379833343
This. Hard to not see the irony when he called a chinese developer who was homeless "privileged" because he's male.

>>379832998
>waaah dont misgender her
Fucking hell anon, are you serious? Grow the fuck up. You cant fucking misgender anyone. He's a fucking he.

>>379833635
>>379833646
I've played it. its not the greatest game in the world, but it's sufficient as a point and click adventure game.

>>379833646
>>379833635
kek

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>>379833504
You haven't seen the game, have you?

>>379833504

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfa4ErkfttQ

>>379833664
I mean, 88k is bretty good.

>>379833678
She is legally a woman, married to a man, acts and dresses as a woman, identities as a woman, and has a vagina. Deal with it.

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>>379833769
>Sufficient
Are you being honest anon?

>>379832998
thats a dude bro

>>379833769
>being this contrarian

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>>379833829
> and has a vagina
>has a vagina
>a vagina

>>379833829
>married

Well, that's news. To what?

>>379833829

Still a born male. A biological man.

>>379833670
Are you for real?

>>379833976

But sex!=gender

Wu's trying to enter politics now.

>>379833794
Is that the new Tiny Robots movie?

>>379833829
>Paperwork, delusion and mental illness
So? You can cut your dick off, mutilate your hands and feelt and implant some long hair just above your anus, but you still won't be a real horse.

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>>379833872
no, i just want some (You)s before i fall asleep.

>>379833829
if a dude chops his dick off hes still a dude

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/brianna-walker-wu-john-walker-flynt.23639/

Grab some popcorn, it's a long ass read.

>>379832998
>>379833829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNzrem4U298

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>>379834097
Here's another to send you off.

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By the way, he got even more insane.

>Brianna Wu, a prominent “social justice warrior” in the “Gamergate” controversy who now is running for the House seat in Massachusetts’ 8th District, suggested in a since-deleted tweet that companies could drop rocks from the Moon.

>“The moon is probably the most tactically valuable military ground for earth,” the tweet said. “Rocks dropped from there have power of 100s of nuclear bombs.”

>Ms. Wu blamed criticism of her on sexism: “that’s the danger of being a woman on the internet!” she exclaimed.

>“Like, you all can make fun of that statement, but it will still be true,” another Wu tweet said. “This is why the militarization of space is so dangerous.”

>>379834027
you can play word games all you want, born with benis = male

>>379834027
>Fake science

Well, the game sold quite well on mobiles. You know it's a mobile game that only got a cheap PC port, right?
I mean: it is a pile of trash and the PC version clearly flopped, but I don't think it was a particular financial blow and I'm afraid the mobile version did pay for itself considering it was a bedroom project.

>>379833769
It's not a point and click adventure. So... are you sure you should be the one complaining about people not having played the game?

Yes, and? The dude is just piggybacking on his talented asian slave's money
Also begs on social medias
Man, talking about Wu brings me back to 2013, it's been a while, we used to have threads daily about SJWs, what a cancerous time it was
sage

>>379832280
>His

>>379833829
>a vagina

he cut off his penis and drilled a hole. its not a vagina.

>>379834195
Fucking idiot

>>379832280

>Be from a wealthy family
>Become mentally ill during college, literally buffalo bill tier
>Decide to chop dick off
>Living off trust funds + parents wealth
>Hack programmer, Yanderedev tier

This thing is a failure and is the main reason you should never have one child because if you fucked up that's your legacy.

>>379834087

We're talking about gender dysphoria here, which is a well researched condition and not your bullshit analogy.

>>379834210

Not necessarily. The American Medical Association, American Psychiartic Association, The World Health Organization, and various medical regulatory bodies of dozens of nations acknowledge that sex and gender are different. If you have evidence otherwise, then present your case to your nation's regulatory board.

https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexuality-definitions.pdf

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>>379833829
>has a vagina
nope

Her husband's loaded because he has a real job (lawyer).

>>379833976
Look, I do it out of convenience because the board I hang out at that shit talks Wu refers to him as her.

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>>379833520
>Becomes a woman to prove they can make games
>Makes total garbage

At least s(he) could use some of the criticism to convince idiots that there was targeted harrassment due to sexism.

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>>379834195

Orbital bombardment is a thing, but "dropping" rocks from the moon is fucking retarded and makes no sense at all.

Earth and moon are much farther apart that most people think. Pic related.

>>379834398

>woman lives the life she wants to live and enjoys herself
>/v/: REEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP HAVING FUN

Wew

>>379832280
What makes it great, is that most of those players are Let's Players who are doing a "worst game ever" episode.

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>>379834087
>Paperwork, delusion and mental illness
>Witchcraft, heresy and mutation

>>379834404
gender dysphoria is a mental illness that should not be treated with mutilating surgeries

>>379834552

who are you quoting?

>>379832280
https://steamcommunity.com/id/lowtaxico/recommended/350200/

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>>379834552
>woman

>>379834404
>gender dysphoria
Which is literally a mental illness

>>379834552
>woman
>actually mentally disabled men thats causing harm to society
FTFY

>>379833664
I will click on that link and if its rabi ribi or hollow knight I will fucking kill you

>>379834404
>well researched condition

You sure about that? I'm not sure any mental illness can be considered "well researched"

>>379834404
gender dysphoria is a mental illness and any credible or honest association agrees with it.

the APA is currently backpedaling because of sjw pressure and classified the nonconformity itself as not a mental illness.


you are an idiot and should just kill yourself you human waste. you are basically denying any real help for people that actually need it by calling it "normal" and not a mental illness.

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>>379834195

>>379834541
You can fit every planet in the solar system between earth and its moon

>>379834625

1. It's a mental condition, not a mental illness.
2. The only viable treatment is attempting to make the afflicted's body match their gender identity. If you have a better treatment, take it up with the regulatory board for your nation's medical services.

>>379833829
you just wanted yous didn't you

not sure who should die first

trannies or their enablers

>>379832280
>Owners: 1,401 ± 1,940
>peak players: 10
So literally 10 people bought it right

>>379834908
Both
Then kill all feminists, kill all jews, kill all sand niggers, kill all niggers, kill all gays

>inb4 burgermod deletes this because it's not okay to make fun about "it" while making fun about Randy or Todd is totally fine

>>379834963
Kill all whites

>>379834846
Having AIDS is also a condition, doesn't mean it's not also an illness.
Are you retarded? WHat makes you think that someone having their dick chopped off to become a """"""girl"""""" is just a "condition" and not an illness?

>>379834846
>viable treatment

not it's not viable or helpful. post-op suicide rates are higher than pre-op. you are basically butchering mentally ill people.

>>379833520
>Brianna Wu
>Woman

Those incompatible statements anon.

>>379833961
>what
kek

>>379834935
All xis SJW friends probably bought it and never played it because they don't play games

>>379835016
A very low amount of trans people actually want GRS

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>>379834908
>not going straight for the root of the problem

As fun as it is to shit on Wu, Steamcharts for singleplayer games mean fuck all. As long as the game broke sales expectations, it's a success and the current playercount is a secondary concern.

>>379834963
Slow down Achmed

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>>379835005
Only if they look like this.

>>379833209
You mean the mossad?

>>379835093
>kill all sand niggers
>Slow down Achmed

sad

>>379835005
kill all people, let machines rule the planet

>>379834541
its got nothing to do with distance, Chucking a rock from moon -> earth is a shit load easier than chucking the same rock from earth -> moon

>>379832280
On the bright side, xe's not anthony burch

>>379835136
Sandniggers want every other sandnigger not like them dead. See: Sunnis vs Shiites

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>>379832280
>http://steamcharts.com/app/350200

How do you make battleborn look successful ?

yeah yeah i know different genre of game

>>379835016

There is a specific delineation between an illness and condition in the medical field. If you don't even know something so basic, then there's no point is discussing with you since you clearly lack knowledge of the basic tautology let alone knowledge of more advanced concepts.

Good day.

>>379835147
This is factually correct.
THIS CANNOT CONTINUE

>>379835178
nice backpedaling.

>>379833769
brian wu, stop shilling your dead game

>>379834846
I have a mental illness. I guess I should just go get a doctor to slash my wrists for me as thats the only way I'm going to get better right? Let's face it the only reason trannies get these surgeries is because its not PC to suggest its a mental illness that should be treated in a less fucked up way

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>>379835107
So that's what niggers would look like with normal skin? Hmmmmm

What's happening to the sjw defense force on /v/? Are they finally giving up?

>>379835018

This trans suicide meme was debunked years ago as it was a falsehood pushed by a single report. But of course I don't expect the brainlets on here to know such a thing.

http://transadvocate.com/worlds-experts-condemn-the-mchugh-hoax_n_13924.htm

>>379835301
>transadvocate as a source
give me a better source.

>>379835076
Semantics.
Someone wanting to become the opposite gender is faaaaar far veery far from normal. Noone without illness would actually do that.

>>379835178

I'm Sunni Muslim and I don't hate other Muslims or anyone else for their religion. It just makes you look stupid when you stereotype entire groups of hundreds of millions of people.

>>379835296

Fatclaps are asleep.

>>379835347
>faaaaar far veery far
How far is that in furlongs?

>>379832998
shut up leaf

>>379835301
>transadvocate.com
Okay, schlomo.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_among_LGBT_youth

>>379835389
>murica is the sjw defense force

you do realize who our president is right

Who is this ugly degenerate and why should I care?

>>379835397
an entire googolplex

>>379835301
>Hitler did nothing wrong, let me prove it!
>Check this out: www.aryanbrotherhood.com

>>379835347
>wanting to become the opposite gender
They don't want to be the opposite gender, they believe they are the opposite gender. Transexual suicide rates also decrease when they get hormone treament to be whichever gender they're comfortable with and decreases even more when they're able to keep strong family ties so whoever said they're more likely to commit suicide after treatment was wrong

>>379834625
(You) and if you go hurr I'm merely pretending I'm taking it back

>>379835301
>transadvocate.com

Golly gee, I wonder if they're biased in any way.

>>379835472
But that's a gay porno site.

>>379835186
SJW pandering is a genre

>>379835420

Yeah, and there's totally no one in the US who's opposed to Trump, right?

>>379835476
> Transexual suicide rates also decrease when they get hormone treament

That's false. Any source I looked at says otherwise. Why are you spreading lies?

>>379834097
Dick should get her on the show for a giggle. After the Goss Bomb tho

>>379834963
and canadians

>>379835472

Fine

https://www.wsj.com/articles/views-about-transgendered-that-are-stuck-in-the-past-1403122012

>>379835524
So what, does it say anywhere that Hitler DID something wrong? Checkmate, communist.
>>379835578
The wsj is not a credib

>>379835476
Always shocking to read something on /v/ that isn't emotional autistic nonsense.

>>379835554
Mostly illegal inmigrants, I reckon.

>>379835364
What happens if I take a big fat shit on the Quran in a muslim country?

What would happen to you if you left islam and became an apostate in a Sunni country?

>>379835578
>wsj
>gibe monie to view whole article

>>379835554
not enough to oppose his election

and significantly less than modern-day europistan or america's hat

>>379835423
nobody, and you shouldn't

>>379835296
shareblu ran out of shekels, we /pol/ now

>>379835578
>WSJ

AHAHAHHAH

>>379835625

Different countries have different laws.

>>379835615
>>379835578
The wsj is not a credib website on academic topics you dumbfuck.
Even a Buzzfeed article isn't much less credible.

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>>379835578
>WSJ
>SJW

>>379835636

>I don't know how to get past a paywall

You have to be at least 18 years old to post here.

>>379835578
Not him but, irregardless of that stereotype being true, this particular transformer looks on the verge of suicide.

>>379835364
>It just makes you look stupid when you stereotype entire groups
>Also, trannies are mentally ill and deserve death
I hope your jihad bus blows a flat tire and you get shot by cops

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>>379835654
God bless /pol/ forever our bros

>>379835420
The guy who you all spend every waking moment on every site and social media place REEEEing about?

>>379835578
embarrassing

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>>379835420
Yes and?

>>379834027
quiet billy nye 100 genders guy

>>379835296

They are losing the culture war on every front. Many of them are jumping ship.

Considering she spent like 5 years on this game with a team of about 5 women, how much money do you think she lost on this venture and how does she stay afloat?

>>379835758
>>Also, trannies are mentally ill and deserve death

I don't believe that at all.

I don't understand the fascination of people here to take a group of people and assume they have every negative attribute you can come up with.

>>379832280
>http://steamcharts.com/app/350200
>January 2017 0.06 0.05 +970.10%

doesn't look that bad to me

>>379835578
Look mate, maybe you should ask yourself if your news source cosmos is more or a less an echo chamber and that you are just pandering to your own opinions by cherry picking bad sources.

This is not meant to be offensive or anything but the fact alone that you are linking magazines, sites with zero credibility and the mission to spread certain information because of political allegiances shows us that you are unaware and rather lacking information.

Go look at some other data, from Institutes, the government and whatever. Something which actually explains their data and shows their pure data and make up your own mind.

Instead of listening to a subhuman journalist, listen to people in the field.

>>379835406
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/
Says nothing about pre vs post op suicide rates and outright states that the increased suicide is a result of societal discrimination and stigmatization.

>https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf
It's all about lifetime suicide attempts. IE, if a post-op trans person has had a suicide attempt at some point in their life, that does not mean they did it after transition.

>>379835889
He's a trustfund kid.
Plus, do you honestly believe that trash was expensive to make?

>>379834404
Dysphoria is delusion retard.

>>379835989
m8 wtf that isn't video games, take your trans shit to pol

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>Hating on an oppressed minority now because "le edgy 4chan!"

>>379836036
>Plus, do you honestly believe that trash was expensive to make?

Sure it was. 5 years salaries for a team of people.

>>379835886
>all time high acceptance of LGBT people and gay marriage
>all time high acceptance of interracial relationships
>all time high acceptance in legalizing weed
>media and vidya has never been more diverse
>my fucking high school in Alabama voted a transgender girl as prom queen

Huh, so that's what losing looks like

>>379834846
How about therapy to help the person accept that they are their biological gender and love themselves for who they are?

>>379835898
>I'm posting in a trans hate thread but oh no I wouldn't participate in the thread's stated purpose no sir I am the one exception to /v/'s mindless circlejerk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o8MElLXxYo

This is what normies think

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>>379836079

>you will never be spitroasted by two trannies

why even live

>>379835989
the second one actually does but here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

>get given 200k from rich parents to jumpstart video game company
>married to a rich as fuck cocksucker
>calls others privileged
Lmao

>>379836161
Bravo, anon. Clearly hundreds of thousands of medical professionals across the world never thought about that or attempted it ever.

>>379835768
WE DID IT REDDIT XDDDD
BRAISE KUK XDDDD

>>379836079
Would unironically fuck both right and left

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>>379836079
Someone should have helped that kid long before he became what he was on the left.

Ignoring Wuu, the game was just shit.

>combat was on par with a 2/5 newgrounds game
>without a doubt the worst over use of quick time events I've ever seen
Seriously this shit puts David cage to shame
>animation and art style looks like it's from a budget animation studio from the mid 90s
>nothing in the game is even remotely fun, just a bunch of tacked on systems from every other game without any depth that made these systems enjoyable in the first place

Normally I'd give these crazy SJW devs some benefit of the doubt since game creation can be hell at times, but this game has nothing redeeming about it. It's not even fun to play ironically, it really is just a bunch of poorly thought out ideas sticky tapes together with nobody thinking about what is fun but just being satisfied that the game works without crashing.

>>379836271
Still a lower suicide rate then butchering the genitals. Makes u go hhmmmmmmm

>>379835558
>Any source I looked at says otherwise.
Not him, but I'd like to see your sources. Because I live in a country that has minimum or no SJW influences and where these things are still handled purely by clinical psychiatry.
People suffering gender dysphoria have been treated by accomodation (in less severe cases, they have been just issued double documents listing their gender as their preffered one and relocated into larger cities where they could maintain greater anonymity, in worse cases (cases that had somatic or physically dangerous obsessive components - such as tendencies to self-harm) combined with hormone therapy since the late 50's and it has been largely a fairly successful endeavor. Of course, people suffering gender dysphoria are much more likely to be comorbid with other issues, including depression, but still most patients reported improvement of their state and higher capacity to join public life, maintain stable occupation after the treatment.

>>379836048
Try telling that to an actual psychiatrist. It's not a delusion, it's a mental condition, complete with neurological correlates. It's no more a delusion than depression, obsessive compulsive disorder or borderline disorder. Just some brain hardwiring going wrong.

The whole point is to treat it as it is: a mental condition that needs to be treated from a psychatric perspective. The REAL problem with SJW's is not that they recognize transgenderism as a part of our society, but the fact that they attempt to de-psyhiatrize, arguing that it's a "different alternative" rather than an actual mental health problem that needs to be treated pragmatically.

>>379836102

Wow, it's almost like centrists who oppose the regressive left aren't opposed to any of these. Human rights and freedom are cool.

>>379836161
Can you prove that such a thing is an effective way to treat gender dysphoria? Because no one has been able to so far. On the contrary, we have evidence to show transition is at least somewhat effective at relieving symptoms of GD.

This is the equivalent of asking why we don't treat cancer with leeches.

>>379836238
It doesn't compare transitioned trans people to non-transitioned trans people, it compares transitioned trans people to cis people.

>>379834846
1. its a mental defect, literally zero chance to procreate

2. condemning them to gene death is not a viable treatment, psychiatric help is.

>>379836271
The ones with scruples do just that. The leftist soldiers putting their political agenda before their "first do no harm" oath advocate mutilating people with chemical castration and literal castration.

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>>379834027
>But sex!=gender

>>379836365
Prove it

>>379836387
>Not him, but I'd like to see your sources. Because I live in a country that has minimum or no SJW influences and where these things are still handled purely by clinical psychiatry.
We aren't talking about the third-world here

>>379836486
>The leftist soldiers putting their political agenda before their "first do no harm" oath advocate mutilating people with chemical castration and literal castration.

How many times do you have to be told that a very small amount of trans people actually want or go through with GRS

>>379836474
>2. condemning them to gene death is not a viable treatment, psychiatric help is.

Proof?

>>379836161
>How about therapy to help the person accept that they are their biological gender
First of all, "biological gender" is a literal contradiction of terms. You mean their sex.
Second of all, that is about as brilliant solution as saying "how about treating chronic depression by teaching those people that world is not such a bad place and make them enjoy themselves more".
Or treating schizophrenic people to just let go of their delusions and be more rational.

If it was that fucking easy, then it would not be a serious clinical condition.

>>379836387
>Not him, but I'd like to see your sources.
Check the links in this thread. Just search for "edu" and ".gov"

>but the fact that they attempt to de-psyhiatrize, arguing that it's a "different alternative" rather than an actual mental health problem that needs to be treated pragmatically.
Exactly.
>>379836462
>it compares transitioned trans people to cis people.
You mean normal and healthy people who also should be the benchmark for psychological health evaluation.

>>379836249
Wait, he's married? Who the hell is desperate to marry someone as insane as Wu.

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>>379832280
>brianna wu
>congress

why though

>>379833340
Sarcasm doesn't over well in written form.

>>379836671
other people with severe mental issues.

>>379832346
>Owners: 1,401 ± 1,940
So that means there is between -539 and 3,341 owners? Steamspy is shit.

>>379836523
This third world country was fourty years ahead of time when it comes to psychiatry. It's a bit hypocritical when you complain about "third world countries" not counting, when you live in a country where one half of the population still follows Marx and the other literally has not moved beyond Christian 18 century views on human mental health, don't you think?

>>379836684
To pull a bern out, most likely. He's probably running low on trust fund monies and needs to pull together some easy donations.

>>379836723
well people pirated and stole copies! DUH

>>379836684
>comes from wealthy parents
>still wants free money.
Wu is a truly disgusting human and his death should be celebrated with a parade and fireworks.

>>379836512
buttsex

>>379836624
Yes, but the way to treat people with gender dysphoria is apparently to allow them to wallow in their own delusions and encourage them to mutilate themselves.
You don't treat a depressed person by telling them they should just kill themselves if that's what they want to do.

>>379836641
>You mean normal and healthy people who also should be the benchmark for psychological health evaluation.

No. If we're examining the effectiveness of a medical treatment, you examine people who have had that treatment to people who haven't but still have whatever condition warrants treatment. You don't compare the health of someone with chronic depression to the average person, you compare the health of someone with chronic depression to someone who has also had chronic depression and gone through treatment for it.

>>379836671
A chinese guy whose last name is Wu.

>>379836807
>>Yes, but the way to treat people with gender dysphoria is apparently to allow them to wallow in their own delusions and encourage them to mutilate themselves
>>379836586

>>379833769
I sorta remember the oneyplays videos, the story was shit, the graphic style was shit, the music was shit, the animations were shit, the characters were shit, the only slightly redeeming factor was the concept but seeing as everything else was shit it was poorly executed

>>379835898
>I don't understand the fascination of people here to take a group of people and assume they have every negative attribute you can come up with.
Because when you deal with populations it's logical to deal with group averages, and when you deal with group averages it's logical to compare them to a reference.

There are literally more than twice the amount of people on the earth than there are seconds in your lifetime. You will likely walk past more people in a city in an hour than you will truly know in your lifetime. The fact that cuckoldry and betrayal and such exist proves it's rare that you can totally remove uncertainty from an individual even with years of accumulated 'data'.
Thus using population average propensities against references (i.e., stereotypes) is a logical move and paramount to making the best 'investments' and getting the most 'payouts' in your lifetime.
If you have to rent to an east Asian or a black man, and that's the only thing you know about them, smart money says go with the Asian. The chance of it being a bad choice still exists, but it's much lower, and seeing as they payout is the same, it's logical to take the higher odds. Yeah the Black dude could be the nicest guy in the world, and the Asian could be a sadistic psychopath, but from the information available, it's less likely than the reverse.

anyone else here hate lgbt? not just the board, the whole thing.

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>>379836787
Don't forget this gem

>>379836813
No, you fucking idiot, you need a control sample that's a healthy specimen for any experiment.
What kind of retarded science teacher did you have?

>>379836856
What a weirdo, he could've just got some Chinese bride instead of the frankenstein's monster looking Wu.

>>379836593
gender dysphoria is no different from other types of identity disorder, the only way to treat an identity disorder is psychiatric care, enabling their illness only further destabilizes their psyche, and reassignment surgery will never work because they will never be their desired sex.

>>379836787
Political campaigns are ungodly expensive anon, like millions of dollars expensive. Almost everyone running for a position will take donations because they're completely required to have a chance at all unless you happen to be a millionaire.

>>379836813
It's funny how you get so vocal about the point that they compared mentally ill post-op to normal people in a credible study but you yourself post magazine articles as sources.

please fuck off. i posted you 3 highly relevant, peer reviewed studies and you decline all 3 of them. you don't want to discuss and gain any new information. you just want that everyone accepts your delusions.

>>379836641
I've looked them up. The data you provided don't say what you seem to think they say though.
They simply state that those suffering gender dysphoria have high suicide rates. And that is really, really not surprising. I mean fuck me: I've dealt with these kinds of people. It's really fucking hard to live with.

They do not actually prove that clinical treatement by accomodation does not improve their condition. They merely prove that their condition is fairly serious.

>>379836624
>First of all, "biological gender" is a literal contradiction of terms. You mean sex.
Only according to the SJW nu-dictionary.

>Second of all, that is about as brilliant solution as saying "how about treating chronic depression by teaching those people that world is not such a bad place and make them enjoy themselves more".
It is significantly more brilliant than coddling delusions and mutilating sufferers with castration. If there were a pill to help them resolve their delusion I'd be all for it, but anyone researching such a drug would most likely be castigated for being transphobic.

>have girlfriend
>cute, funny, into vidya
>starts hanging out with far left-leaning types
>opinions become more extreme
>she herself becomes more rigorous about said opinions
>at some point it's nothing but politics 24/7
>break up with her
>hear that she identifies as a man now
>argues on Twitter constantly
>gives advice on how to get testo illegally for self-medication
>mentions casual drug abuse as well
>only learned about this because she killed herself recently
We're talking about a person who surrounded herself with nothing but people enabling this kind of behavior. And she killed herself, anyway.

I'm just saying maybe it's the wrong approach. These people need help and maybe supporting their views isn't the answer. Maybe challenging them is.

>>379837023
>you happen to be a millionaire
Guess what anon, Wu has millionaire parents and a millionaire husband. They probably have grown tired of always needing to indulge his autistic tendencies.

>>379837134
>Challenging views
>In 2017

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>>379836961

>giant planetary gravity well that multiplies the kinetic energy

>>379837058
I'm just googling and linking papers I read at some point.

Can you link any credible source claiming that post-op actually reduces mortality rate?

>>379832280
i aint clickin dat shit niggaaa

>>379837153
why is it always that the loudest most obnoxious SJWs tend to be the wealthiest?

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>>379836961
Just like my Gundamu

>>379836974
I don't think he could have. Why else would someone pretend a male is a female and hen marry it?

>>379837134
exactly, you don't enable an identity disorder, you work with the person to fix it, if you care for them at all. its easy to pretend nothing is wrong but the consequences are dire.

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>>379837281
Disconnection from reality at all levels of society and thought.

>>379836965
Of course you do. But that doesn't mean it's a good way to examine the effectiveness of a treatment.

If we're examining the effectiveness of a medical treatment, we need statistics from the average, healthy person and statistics from the afflicted people, both those with and without the treatment.

Without statistics from healthy people you can't know the baseline that you should be aiming for.
Without statistics from those treated you can't know what your treatment actually did.
Without statistics from those with the condition but without treatment you can't know how effective your treatment was at helping them.

>379837039
No, the studies you linked just had nothing of worth to your argument.

None of those show that trans people who have gone through transitioning have a significantly higher rate of suicide than trans people who haven't.

The only thing it tells us is that transitioning is not a perfect treatment that cures all symptoms of gender dysphoria. It does not tell us that transitioning is utterly ineffective or that therapy is a better solution.

>>379837315
But his husband is rich right? Even the ugliest rich person can score a partner, one with a real vagina too, not something carved out with a fish hook by a doctor.

>>379837257
What's this post-op meme?

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/06/08/suicide-rate-much-higher-for-transgender-canadians-study
>In the study by researchers at Western University in London, Ont., 35% of trans people seriously considered suicide over 12 months and 11% tried to kill themselves.
>What brought the risk down significantly was the support of parents.
>When they were most supportive, the percentage who seriously considered suicide dropped by more than half (57%).

So, being accepted as the other gender by the ones they love reduces the suicide rate by over half

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/press-releases/28-jan-201/
This study also suggests a link between the high suicide rates and the discrimination trans people face every day

>>379837153
Are they? I knew they were wealthy but not that wealthy.

>>379837421
Yet again you have no sources claiming otherwise.

>>379836807
>Yes, but the way to treat people with gender dysphoria is apparently to allow them to wallow in their own delusions and encourage them to mutilate themselves.
Actually, at least where I live, things like sex-change-operation are done PRECISELY TO STOP THEM from mutilating them. The last time I've seen sex-change operation performed on someone with gender dysphoria, it was a 15 years old boy who attempted to castrate himself three times - for the first time when he was 11. I've talked with the boy. It was terrifying, he was an credibly smart and kind person. But his behavior was... well if you ever dealt with someone with a serious OCD or delusion, you probably know how this shit is. Reason and rationality have nothing to do with this.

>You don't treat a depressed person by telling them they should just kill themselves if that's what they want to do.
Yes. You treat it by giving them the MEDS they need. And this is like giving them the meds. They don't die during that operation: the odds that after, they will be less likely to inclined to kill themselves. There is no more efficient treatement.
Does it solve everything? No, fuck no. Those people will still struggle. But they will likely struggle a little less, and cause less grief to the society too. It's not really very different from a chemical castration of a chronic sexual deviant, really.

>>379837104
>Only according to the SJW nu-dictionary.
You are very wrong on this. Psychiatry which is and has been AT MASSIVE ODDS with left-wing thinkers by the way since the 50's has been using this terminology. It's a useful distinction, really.

>but anyone researching such a drug would most likely be castigated for being transphobic.
What the fuck? Are you retarded? Really, those SJW's had already fucking rotten your brain. Get your shit together.

>>379837281
They have it easiest in life so they literally have nothing else to complain about. Regular people have other shit taking up their time of the day as well as having the opportunity to mingle with other regular people too so they tend to be more realistic and tolerant of others. These motherfuckers, on the other hand, have life so easy but can't stand that truth, so they take up some pretend crusade to make it seem like they have a struggle too, just like everyone else.

>>379837481
>being accepted as the other gender
That has nothing to do with surgery or not.

So, do you have any sources or not?

>>379837487
>they will be less likely to inclined to kill themselves.
But that's proven bullshit.

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>>379837459
Chinese dudes seem to have issues in that department. Some rich Chinese dude went on the radio here in NY once and offered his ferrari to anyone that could hook him up on a date with a blonde woman. That person would have gotten money too if the date wound up with him marrying the the girl. Still no takers.

>>379837281
Look at a majority of SJW, middle-class white folk, they don't have any real struggle or passions so they get deep into politics and put themselves as the martyr's for another person's race, sexuality, etc, etc, because their lives lack and real purpose and direction. It's what happens when you're a completely worthless human with no drive or challenges who has to find what you think is worth your time.

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>>379837134

Pretty sure she had more than a few problems to start with, anon

There's a reason why it's a legitimate concern that people that don't suffer gender dysphoria desperately believe transitioning will help them with their problems in life, only to end up killing themselves because it didn't help them because their problem was something unrelated to their gender

>>379837257
>Can you link any credible source claiming that post-op actually reduces mortality rate?
Can you read Czech? I should be able to give you names of several clinical psychology textbooks used around here, they should contain data speaking in favor. I also remember having several interesting kazuistics that were available on-line, some of them as old as early 60's, though it might take a while to find them. It's been a while.

>>379837487
>The last time I've seen sex-change operation performed on someone with gender dysphoria, it was a 15 years old boy who attempted to castrate himself three times

>Hey, this kid's trying to chop off his own dick, should we help him overcome his debilitating mental illness?
>Nope, let's just chop off his dick for him instead
>Hey, sad Sally, you keep cutting your wrists, come over here so I can show you how it's done. Down the road, not across the street!

>>379837738
No I can't and don't get me wrong: If a paper wasn't even written in english in the first place, it has no value in the academic cosmos.

>>379837615
No, it isn't. None of the articles you provided actually prove this.

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>>379837650

>>379837714
Really? That's weird. At my work there's a lot of Chinese couples who come in, from China and a lot of the guys are pretty ugly but because they have a little money they have a Chinese wife, since status is all that matters to them. Maybe it's because they want white women? That must be it. So he settled for the discount shelf.

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>>379837829

>>379837486

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25401972
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23943260
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12155/abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24177489
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2011.02564.x/abstract

>>379837738

>Czech textbooks

Link peer-reviewed articles from relevant journals or fuck off.

I love how fucking autistic /v/ gets about Gender Reassignment Surgery.

It makes you so angry that they're allowed to do surgery on their own genitalia.

What do you care?

>>379833664
The price is too damn high!

>>379837961
czech your western privilege

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkONHNXGfaM

>>379837958
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25401972
>Sexual quality of life
Irrelevant

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23943260
>that undergoing cross-sex hormonal treatment, having family support, and having an occupation were associated
Irrelevant and lots of different factors in the study. Not even surgery, just hormonal treatment.

>http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12155/abstract
>Hormonal Treatment Reduces Psychobiological Distress
Again, hormonal treatment. Irrelevant

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24177489
>Hormonal therapy is associated with better self-esteem, mood, and quality of life in transsexuals.
Same shit and also only talks about short-term results.

>http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2011.02564.x/abstract
>Hormonal therapy
Yeah...


Do you have any sources or not? Stop spamming me with irrelevant topics.

>>379837965
I guess they like to pretend that they actually care about the mental wellbeing of trans people as an excuse for hatred of all things trans

>>379837735
I'm beginning to think transitioning is more of a cultural thing at this point. LGBT people and normies forward it as a solution even though suicide rates remain high among trannies. There are attempts to tackle the problem pharmaceutically by inventing a pill that reduces gender dysphoria, but LGT folks flat out refuse to partake in research because they're rather have everyone accept them as what they want to be rather than accepting themselves for what they are.

That's nothing.
http://steamcharts.com/app/300910

>>379838227
I hate SRS because girls (male) should keep their feminine penises for me to suck on.

>>379836462
>It doesn't compare transitioned trans people to non-transitioned trans people, it compares transitioned trans people to cis people.
The suicide rate is still very high, showing that the "cure" isn't effective.

Keep in mind in a lot of these studies the base actually drops out for unknown reasons

>>379838202
>hormonal treat is irrelevant

There's more to transition than just sex reassignment surgery. If that's all you're arguing about then I agree with you, SRS as it is now with our current technology is unfortunately ineffective.

Not all trans people get or desire to have it though, for good reason.

>>379837965
they are causing harm to themselves and everyone just enables them. ignoring the pathology of your society is easy, looking it in the eye is not, if the pathology of your society is left unchecked it will auger you straight to hell

>>379837958
Are there any studies which compare quality of life between hormone treatment and placebo?

>>379838202
>Surgery

Stop this meme

http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_full.pdf

Only 33% of all trans people get srs

>>379837802
If you have a better, clinically tested solution, please, PLEASE provide it. Trust me, millions of clinical psychiatrists will be insanely grateful to you.

But yeah: it's better if the castration is done my a team of medical experts under supervision than if the boy does it himself with a cardboard cutter.
There really is no other way to help him. Unless you want to keep him seriously sedated and tied to his bed the rest of his life.

>>379837961
>>379837810
You are so adorable!
I don't have those, not english ones. Neither do you have any that would speak in your favor though, so if those are the demands you make, then we are really in a moot point.
The reality is that there ISN'T a sufficient global research data pool. All I have access to (which is a lot more than you do) is clinical experience of actual doctors dealing with this shit for well over fifty years, outside of any actual ideological pressure like the western psychiatry has to deal with.

Take it or leave it. But be assured that it's more than you know and have access to.

>>379838202

If you listen really closely you can hear him desperately searching scholar right now. :^)

>>379836079
Wu isn't fucking oppressed, he's a trust fund baby. He's never faced real hardship in his life.

>>379838376
>The suicide rate is still very high, showing that the "cure" isn't effective.

I pesonally don't care because the hatred of GRS is not based on actual concern for any trans individuals.

>>379838424
>If that's all you're arguing about
Yes, that's all I'm arguing about.

>>379838467
So what?

>>379838468
Your czech textbooks are irrelevant. Textbooks aren't peer reviewed and can be written and published by anyone.

>>379838501
heh

>>379838539
Trans individuals are mentally ill

>>379838468
>I HAVE NO PROOF - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT YOU BIGOT

ok, bye

>>379838443
>they are causing harm to themselves

No, doctors don't allow GRS if it appears useless.

>everyone just enables them

No, they don't allow GRS because they want to be PC, they do it because they see it as the only resort.

>ignoring the pathology of your society is eas

Virgin.

>if the pathology of your society is left unchecked it will auger you straight to hell

Pasty LARPing virgin.

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>>379838246

There's a reason trannies refuse to partake in such research because they make their supposed troondom part of their identity, not helped by how if someone did research on them we'd quickly find out they don't have gender dysphoria

People seem to forget that it was the same goddamn thing back in the day when everybody claimed that they were in fact bi, even when they in fact weren't - being a troon is the hip new thing and it erases gender dysphoria's existence as a very real thing rather than a bunch of screeching middle-aged men in short skirts that display their flappy thighs who voraciously jerk off to imagining themselves getting fucked by a hot bloke, i.e. autogynephilia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T3131D52fc

>>379833979
Yes but Wu doesn't have bottomless pockets. He is actively running out of money. There were some emails or something passed around not too long ago from insiders who basically said the studio is collapsing in on itself and Frank is the only reason the steam version even got released. Wu has been running off fading patreon bux for months now. This is why he constantly tries to manufacture new controversy. He is consistently trying to become the center of a new media shitstorm.

>>379838647
So are Christians, Muslims and millions of people who think Trump cares about them.

They're a bigger problem.

>>379838665
wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong

>>379838665
>they do it because they see it as the only resort.
>omg if we dont cut off your dick RIGHT NOW, you will feel slightly depressed and you will probably feel more depressed and regret afterwards but WE HAVE TO DO IT

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>>379838769
>fedora tipping islamophobic BLUMPF boogeymanning retard

>>379838590
>Yes, that's all I'm arguing about.

Fair enough, my bad. I was under the impression that we were discussing the effectiveness of transition in general, not srs specifically.

>>379838246
It absolutely is a fad illness. The trans population is now estimated at over 1.4 million when 5 years ago it was 700k, there is an increase in diagnoses for gender dysphoria.

The fact is, doctors just don't know how to actively treat it and are basing treatment off ill tested means from the Americas because of the lack of research in to what causes the mental illness.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/sep/07/transgender-patients-face-doctors-limited-experience-bias-treatment-study

In large sample sizes and of a coalition of 100+ studies, it was found that current treatment just doesn't work

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth

Until more research is done, they won't get to the root of it. Hell, it's normal for 60% of the research base to drop out completely, skewing what results you DO get.

>>379839003
Alright, thanks for the discussion.

Have a good day, mate.

>>379838682
Someone's obsessed.

>>379834404

kuffar

>>379837650

>reading review
>damn its like I stepped into a time portal to the days when SA was relevant
>read username

oh

neat

>>379839151

Thank you for your input anon

>>379838891
I'd fuck most of those women though.

>>379839042
>The trans population is now estimated at over 1.4 million when 5 years ago it was 700k

Sounds like you've failed.

>>379838590
>Your czech textbooks are irrelevant.
And your opinions are relevant how?
>>379838652
Look kiddo, this would work if you had any actual proper support for your own claims. But you can't apply different double standards. "I'm right until I'm proven wrong" is really cute, childish logic. You have no more claim to your argument than I have to mine right now. I do have experience which you (if you were actually honest with yourself) don't. Again: your responsibility to deal with that. But if you really were interested in the truth, rather than in desperately validating your entirely unfounded theory, this discussion would look very differently. Probably wound not be even happening. You'd be too busy actually researching the shit.

The tragedy here is that in reality, you use this particular and difficult psychatric problem as a proxy to vent your hate for something that is actually completely unrelated: your hatered for the SJW. And mind you: the SJW are wrong. In fact they are much more fucked up and dangerous than you'll ever begin to comprehend.
But the sad thing is that instead actually understanding the REAL problem that those people and their ideology poses, you focus on proxy and made up shit instead. IT'S THE TRANS PEOPLE THAT ARE THE PROBLEM. AND CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY BECAUSE IT ACKNOWLEDGES THEIR MEDICAL DISTRESS!

No, fucker. It's the people who pretend that being transgender is NOT a serious medical condition that needs special medical treatement, but rather try to push the idea that "there is nothing wrong with them" and that "we should just respect their freedom to be who they are".
It's the people who turn serious, dangerous illness into tool of their own political agenda. It's people who claim that transgender people need special pronouns rather than clinical care. The people who blame non-trans-people for trans-people's misfortune, rather than not blaming anyone and taking medical steps to cure them.

Those are the real problems.

>>379838665
transsexuals are just homosexuals with an identity disorder. its incredibly lazy and naive to think you can fix an identity disorder with reassignment surgery. the only course of treatment is psychotherapy.

>>379838446
>>379838446
>>379838446
This seems like the relevant question.

>>379832280
>>379832346
you even fail at viraling your own game

>>379839301
>Look kiddo
Stopped reading there.
Grow up.

>>379839301
>And your opinions are relevant how?
I don't have an opinion. I don't care about trans people. I'm just defending objectivity and peer reviewed data.

>>379839371
You don't even realize he irony of what you just said, do you?

>>379834972
Well he didn't
Apologize now

>>379839452
Just calm down and try to argue properly.
You can greentext and meme all you want but stop getting all mad and shit lol

Are you by any chance a mentally ill tranny?

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Transwoman here. Why do you guys act like you know everything about tran stuff without actually trying to understand it from both sides? I was vigorously transphobic and hated "men with tits" even though I struggles with alcoholism and depression from dysphoria. The psych and therapist said the only reliable treatment is to transition. Its not perfect and it never will be but at least my body is closer to what I'd want it to be and socially I'm not treated like a man. I'm so much happier than I was before - I even have a great job and a loving boyfriend. Why do you guys try so hard to bring us down? What's your end game here?

>>379839371
lmao

>>379833829
I got a pretty gnarly gash on my arm, does this mean my arm has a vagina now?

>>379834195
The moon is really fucking far away from Earth. The Moon is so fucking far that at the furthest distance of its elliptical orbit you could fit every other planet in the solar system between it and earth.

This fucking retard probably read something about "Rods from God" dropped from ORBIT and is so ignorant as to think that the moon is about as far away.

Low earth orbit starts 100 miles away. The fucking moon is 250,000, miles away

>>379839440
Which you don't have. Neither do you have any ideas how they really work.
Fan fact: we don't have conclusive data, and in most likelyhood we won't have any time soon.

>>379835347
>Noone without illness would actually do that.
What about people who are in genderbend?

>>379839301
You're the one with a double standard because you cannot provide evidence that hormone treatment and/or surgery is more effective than therapy.

>>379839563
I got this data tho:

you 100% bulletproof mad

Hey guys, check out my new app 'Kabinger' and see how we're changing the world!

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>>379835147
Dumb human traitor

Can we at least agree the people treating gender dysphoria like a trendy lifestyle need to fuck off?

>>379839519
>Just calm down and try to argue properly.
I did argue properly. You did not read the argument because you literally got triggered by a word because you are an oversensitive special snowflake and word scan hurt, don't you know?
>>379839591
>you cannot provide evidence that hormone treatment and/or surgery is more effective than therapy.
That is literally not what the word "double standards mean".
You can't provide those data either. I at least have experience from practice. Which isn't much, but still infinitely more than you have.

Also, you are the one making the demands here. With less experience or info than I have. I'm not demanding your data, I'm merely pointing out that you don't have the basis for your claims. Which is fine: most people don't. But people with no experience and no claim perhaps should not go around making grand judgements.

>>379839706
Yes, I'm trans and I wholeheartedly agree with that. Being trans is a curse and tumblr trenders just make a mockery of it.

>>379835272
>Let's face it the only reason trannies get these surgeries is because its not PC to suggest its a mental illness that should be treated in a less fucked up way
Russia and Iran offer surgery for people with gender dysphoria, i hope you don't think they are PC sensitive.

>>379839523
You're an abomination and I'm glad you'll never reproduce.

Game looks pretty fun desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xC8rdqdTDk

>>379839706
>Can we at least agree the people treating gender dysphoria like a trendy lifestyle need to fuck off?
I doubt that we could agree on that, but as this guy >>379839803: Yeah.
That really is the ACTUAL problem here. And it's not only just a trendy lifestyle: it's used as a political leverage, which is even worse. That is what people should be really concerned about. But instead we get... what ever is happening in this thread.

>>379839803
>sjw calling me a snowflake
dude, we have been arguing for over an hour and you still didnt post any sources for your opinions.

can we just stop? i'm trying to eat here and keep shitposting to you but it's getting annoying.

>>379839849
>Being trans is a curse
so stop doing it.

>>379839849
go to therapy, and be a normal gay person

>>379839978
>sjw calling me a snowflake
You don't even know that "SJW" does not mean "everyone who disagrees with me", do you?

>>379836079
He looked better when he was a twink fuckboy.

>>379839925
t. lonely basement dwelling virgin

>>379839849
>Being trans is a curse
Then stop pretending you were born in the wrong body just cause you don't like monster trucks and beer you fucking wuss

>>379839853
>Russia and Iran offer surgery for people with gender dysphoria, i hope you don't think they are PC sensitive.

No idea on Russia but it's a bit misleading to use Iran as an example here. Iran forces gay people to undergo transition, they aren't trying to help legitimately trans people although that may be done as a side effect of the policy.

>>379840068
yeah you are totally right

you won dude fuck you are so good!

>>379839706
The number of "real" trannies versus "Tumblr" trannies is probably skewing popular and political opinion, 2bh. Trying to frame a mental illness as a fight for a minority is sickening.

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>>379832280
>his

But thats a woman

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>>379838891
That Pari is a man??
Damn!

>>379839980
You don't do trans, you do transition. Being trans is just something you are, you can't stop it.

>>379840048
>>379840124
Believe me, I tried. Literally the earliest memories I have are of my gender issues and I tried for years to fix them without resorting to transition. It didn't work, I only became more and more depressed as a result. I broke down and decided I may as well try transitioning since I've got nothing else.

I've been on female hormones for a year now and I'm legitimately the happiest I've ever been. I'm still pretty fucked up of course but it's far better than I used to be.

Guys, I don't like football and I suck at manual labor and DIY stuff
Do you think I'm a woman?

>>379840408
dont get me wrong but just kill yourself.

>>379840113
if didnt believe what he told you on some level, you wouldn't have responded that way.

>>379840369
einhorn is finkle
finkle is einhorn

>>379840408
Tell us your earliest memory of these "gender issues"
If it's some bullshit like "I liked grills" then I'm gonna drive over to your place and slap you

>>379833343
didn't he get disowned?

>>379840408
>Being trans is just something you are, you can't stop it.
I think you mean being gay. No one told your punk ass to wear makeup.

>>379840408
well if it makes you feel better and you're not hurting anyone, go for it. but you know you'll never be an actual woman.

>>379840504
No lol

>>379839523
Only nu-/v/ is opposed to traps and dickgirls. Back in the early days, Anons were laughed off 4chan for being disgusted by something so tame. The flood of normalfags that accompanied GamerGate seems to have changed that recently.

My tranny-hating friend in real life recently came out as transsexual, and has already started on hormones. More often than not, an obsession with transsexuals is symptomatic of personal gender dysphoria issues. Think about it this way. Who is more likely to be a closet transsexual: the person who says "I'm fine with trannies but I don't want to be one" or the person who says "trannies are fucking abominations, so there's no point in transitioning"? The former sounds comfortable with their gender, and the latter sounds as if they're trying to convince themselves that transitioning is futile. In summary, transphobia is a mental illness.

>>379838024
There's a ton of content, and there's also a ton of updates being pushed out, adding and fixing more shit.

>>379840543
Started when I first started noticing that I liked playing as girls in games and spending hours dressing up and putting makeup on girls in the sims, and that I was attracted to boys in my class.

>>379840539
kek i just saw the video he looks fine that far but close is another whole history, also the voice is fake as fuck

>>379840760
so you're not actually a transsexual

>>379832280

The funniest part is, the game is hilariously broken and buggy and has several game breaking bugs that actually make it impossible to complete the game.

If you mention this and ask if/when these bugs will be fixed on the steam forums/twitter you'll be blocked/banned for life.

>>379840550
Pretty much. His parents helped George W Bush get elected. Wu literally worked for the GOP at one point before transitioning. He did more to empower the Republican Party than most, and also used connections from his parents to get jobs.

He was literally the streotypical white male chad who got everything handed to him before he pissed it away with his insane hijjnks.

>>379840793
That's fucking retarded, I know several MtF trannies who claim to be "lesbians"
You're just gay and like looking at pretty things

>>379832280
funny how he stopped talking about video games after his "game" completely failed
now he's trying to become a politician

>>379832280
>10 people is all time high.
Wew lad? Lass? Uhhhh, wew person.

>>379840774
Stop making up bullshit.

>>379840774
Traps != transgender

It's an entirely separate concept. Just like crossdressers aren't necessarily transgender.
2D manga about otokonoko do not handle trans issues, newhalf manga does.
Completely different genres aimed at wholly different audiences.

>>379832998
I always thought /v/ were just being assholes when calling Wu a man, until I found an interview with Brianna. "Her" voice is deeper than mine and you can actually see "her" huge adams apple.

>>379840774
sounds like a whole lot of projection on your part. you honestly cant see why someone might find transsexuals abhorrent and pitiable?

>>379840140
That is beyond pathetic. Get your shit together. kid.
>>379839591
>You're the one with a double standard because you cannot provide evidence that hormone treatment and/or surgery is more effective than therapy.
I just realized something: You may have completely misunderstood me.

I never claimed that surgery is more efficient than other treatements. It's hard to compare because surgery is only considered a last-resort option and people who are classified as eligible for such treatement are extremely rare.

I kinda thought this was common sense but maybe I should have made this more clear:

Surgery, hormone therapy, and classical psychological treatement or non-specific medication (that is usually anti-depressants) are not considered equal options. There is an order of priority: Of course psychological therapy is applied first, in more severe cases combined with non-specific medication. If that fails, hormone therapy is considered option, and it that fails, as a last resort, surgery is considered. A whole PANEL of doctors must be gathered, the process of approval of such condition takes often years, I don't have the precise data but over the last ten years, I think only like three cases of sex-change surgery were approved as a treatement of gender dysphoria in my country. Relative to about thousand cases that are diagnosed annually.

Of course every other option has to be exhausted before we take such a brutal and invasive approach. Fuck me: we have public health-care - do you have any idea how much evidence we have to provide to the insurance company that such expansive and risky treatement is actually justified.

Again, all the cases I've seen and met were extreme: people who had often spent the last four years hospitalized, people basically completely unable of normal life already. We don't prefer that solution, it's obviously avoided if there is even the slightest chance of other less invasive strategy working.