How many quotes can you remember from Diablo 2? How about enemies,

Jokes on you, I'm replaying D2 right now. Was torn whether to start in a server or just single player, but there's just something max comfy about single player. Listening to dialogue, doing whatever the fuck you want.

Too bad javazon is such a fucking pain until level 18 (when you can murder bosses with charged strike at least) and then still weak until fury and Valkyrie. And also motherfucking tps every 5 mins to repair my javs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZcHGA-mOVM

>>379831557
I remember more of them because they were so bad in 2

I only remember like 3 quotes from d2, maybe 1 from d3.

That said, I know WAY more monsters from d2, and I've played d3 way more recently.

>>379832709
what a garbage video
to answer OPs question, nothing from D3, lots from D2.
>you will never defeat me nephalem! now let me explain my plans to you over radio!

YOU WERE A TEMPLAR, JONDAR

>>379831557
I can remember quite a lot from D3

>>379833034
>you'll never stop my basement demon!

Wait fuck why did I tell them now they'll go stop him.

>>379832709
cringe

WHAT A MONSTROUS CREATURE

FOOLISH NEPHLEGM
DID YOU REALLY THINK MY CATAPULT/SIEGE BEASTS/FAT FART MONSTER/WAIFU/ME/DIABLO CLONE/HELL RIFT/OLD BELIAL CONCEPT ART/ME WAS REQUIRED TO BEAT YOU

B L A C K MAGIC BARS OUR WAY
BUT THE WILL OF A TEMPLAR IS STRONGER

sooooo cooooold

IF ONLY THEY COULD SEE ME NOW

I WAZ...
I AM...
...TYREAL

All I can remember from D2 is

"Not even Death can save you from me."

Tyrael was a fool to have trusted me! You see, it was I who told Diablo and his Brothers about the Soulstones and how to corrupt them. It was I who helped the Prime Evils mastermind their own exile to your world. The plan we set in motion so long ago cannot be stopped by any mortal agency. Hell, itself, is poised to spill forth into your world like a tidal wave of blood and nightmares. You and all your kind... are doomed.


not regretting learning this by heart 15 years ago and still knowing it

Killing Azmodan before they could finish their one liners will never stop being funny.

W H O
D A R E S

Random question but is that angel of war dude voiced by the same guy who did the Dreadlords in WC3?

>>379831557
>Okay, now how many quotes or enemies can you remember from Diablo 3?
Just one quote
>Are you sure you want to uninstall Diablo 3?

You may not pass

THE ANCIENTS GRANT ME STRENGTH

>>379833560
It's usually Chris Metzen unless it was something from late 2016 onward.

RASHANISHU
KOLENTO
*DEATH SOUND*
also succbus moans

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>Diablo 2
"I will cleanse this wilderness."
>Diablo 3
"We can't all be good game devs. Someone needs to sell this game."
"Tried making a good game, didn't care for it. Too much pain, not enough profit.

>>379833304
ITS STICKS
YOU MOTHERFUCKER ITS SOME STICKS

I ALSO HAVE TELEPORT

I NEVER USED TEMPLAR SO IF DIABLO JUST USED SOME STICKS AGAIN I'D HAVE BEEN FUCKED

The Butcher in Diablo 1 was a sadist delighting in flaying people.
The Butcher in Diablo 3 was a fat kid that hated eating vegetables.

ALL WHO OPPOSE ME , BE RARE

>>379833823
BEFRIEND FOWL DEMONS AND BEASTS

>>379833784
in diablo 2 he went through rehab and psycological treatment so he channeled his hate torwards eggplant instead of adventurers
but then he saw a shaman and he thought he was an eggplant so there's the encounter

BREAK BENEATH THE ENDLESS TIDE
YOUR FLAWS ARE REVEALED

i love that in hots, all the diablo 3 characters are playable and they ALL spam their voice lines, which are all amazing

Looking for Baal?

>>379831557
Like 4 quotes from Diablo 2, and a ton of enemies.
Although to be fair, I haven't played Diablo 3 since I knew it was going to be a shit heap before it came out.

The female voices for D2 are surprisingly pleasant. I kinda miss the times when female voice actors didnt try to force an accent or added quirky shit into their lines.

>>379833919
I like to think the soulstone is a bland psycologists office for demons.

all the fucking diablo 2 sound effects are so fucking good
you're now manually hearing the corrupted rogue death sounds

>>379834039
>so tell me, what is it thats troubling you?
"DEVOUR THE FLESH"
>I see, how does that make you feel?

Seriously though, what's fucking taking them so long to release Necromancer? It's just one fucking class.

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THE GODS STRIKE THOUGH ME!

>>379834085

I wont lie, but I fap to killing a bunch of them.

Even better is when I realized that they were actually naked.

>>379834085
DONG EXPANDED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=layjWs2IpS4

>>379831557
I can't remember a single quote from either.

>>379831557
>NEPHALEEMMMMMMM

>>379834085
RAKANISHU!

>>379834117
FEEL.

THE.

WRATH.

OF.

YTAR.

>>379834093
Don't forget how after Xe comes out of the black soulstone Diablo accepted Xir true self as a trans-human trans-gender demonkin.

You guys should try out Median XL Ultimative, the latest version came out 15 days ago and it's considerably different than vanilla Diablo 2 in a good way.

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diablo 4 should be a third person action game instead of a clicking simulator, prove me wrong

>>379831557
You remember the patch that finally fixed the D2 character stat system?

>>379834236

Wasnt the reason Diablo had feminine features was because his host was Leah? D2 Diablo was the most muscular version because his host was the big tough knight dude from D1.

>>379834216
BISHIBOSH
COLENZO

>>379834248
You should try out my dick in your ass.
>My, my... what a messy little demon!

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>>379831557
Fuck that loser

>>379834341
yes, i was making a joke anon. Theres also minor design elements of all the Evils added onto him

>>379834281

Wouldnt mind if it was a GoW clone with Musuo tier swarms of enemies.

D3 is an absolute disaster, stylistically. There's so many effects and particles and shit on screen you can't tell what the hell is even going on. Game developers are always trying to outdo the competition when it comes to the "wow epic" factor but there comes a point of diminishing returns where it becomes totally unreadable and just looks like a total mess. If everything is amazing then none of it is.

>>379834435
considering how fast D2/3 are platinum /musuo blend would work better. GoW is too slow.

>>379834435
This actually sounds kind of cool, I would totally play that

>>379834532
doesn't help that the game has like zero contrast and shitloads of UI clutter

>>379833784
In Diablo 3 he was a pro wrestler. You get put into a cage match and then you hear the evil butterfly woman say

>INTRODUCING: THE BUTCHER!

>>379834532
There are a lot of games you can apply that to, but Diablo 3 isn't that bad. I can only think of the monsters with the enhancement that makes them make the green pools as being annoying in covering the ground and maybe the ones that leave a timebomb on death.

>>379834532

It doesnt matter when by the time your reach end game youd be spamming 1 or skills over and over again like a fucking spaz and just looking at numbers and waiting for the eventual green or brown colored item.

Early game D1/D2 is the best, prove me wrong. I just love how the combat is fairly grounded and toned down before all the powerlevel shit stacks up when you hit level 30.

>>379831557
Pretty much all of them from both?

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>They'll never see me coming

Literally all the enemies see you coming

HOW DOES IT FEEL KNOWING YOU HAVE FAILED THOSE WHO DEPENDED ON YOU?
That's the only one

Is Diablo 3 Blizzard's first "failed" game?

Like wasn't there supposed to be 2-3 more expansions for this shit?

>>379834549
diablo could stand to slow down a bit though, it should be like dark souls but faster, with more enemies and actual classes and ranged combat

I don't think basic enemies should be worthless trash that only exists for you to have something to button mash to death either, generic infantrymen like skeletons or fallen should be killed in droves but wear through your healing items if you're not careful or good enough at dodging and parrying, and large basic enemies like yeti or blunderbores should pose an actual threat by themselves, albeit be fairly quickly dispatched

>>379835185
it's one of the best-selling games of all time, so calling it failed is a bit strong

>>379835185
I think they are ok with it being the 4th or 5th top selling PC game of all time.

I will make weapons from your bones!
Not even death can save you from me!
Why do things occur as they do in dreams?
You have quite a treasure there in that Horadric cube
Seekers of the Tomb of Tal Rasha will find it through the portal
Damn it! I wish you people would just leave me alone, I- oh you're new here, aren't you?
And so it came to pass that the Countess, who once bathed in the rejuvenating blood of a hundred virgins, was buried alive
You knew it would eventually come down to this. Kill Baal! Finish the game!

When I was in the army I used to pass guard duty time by reciting out of memory every piece of spoken text in Diablo 2. Including all the gossip for each quest. I think that amounted in my head to about 40 minutes keeping boredom away.

>Diablo 3
Uh.
Riiiiise my brothers! Rise and do battle!
You may have stopped my invading forces but you will not stop my secret invading force in your basement, Nephalem fool

YOU CANNOT JUDGE ME, I AM JUSTICE ITSELF.

YOUR FEAR BETRAYS YOU

>diablo 2 skeletons are silent except for the clatter of bones and satisfying crunches when they die
>diablo 3 skeletons hiss and giggle maniacally
who the fuck thought this was a good idea

>>379835007
Found the shitter that doesn't know about light radius.

I think the problem with Diablo 3 is the powerlevel creep is way too damn fast. By level 10 you're already exploding craters and wiping out hordes of enemies.

>>379835227
I'd like a game like that too, but I don't think it should be diablo, should be a new IP. D3's saving grace is how fast it can play.

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>>379834202
Vanilla OST>>>LoD OST

Does it have the same composer?

>>379835402
They go crunch alright as Duriel pounds them to dust.

you know games with a simple story tend to be more memorable when it counts than games that pretend to have an epic story and throw at you entire library of pointless lore and mundane dialogue

ENOUGH

I shall take your position into consideration...

D2 cinematics are pure kino

>>379831557
RAKANIJU

>>379835256
I think that's why he put it in quotes. So not that it didn't make a shitload of money, but it didn't have the reception or life that they perhaps expected it to.

Holy shit the PTSD

>>379832709
>heard the better off alone intro
>instantly closed it after cringing so hard my back was nearly thrown out

>>379835419
part why it would have to be slowed down is because third person is more complex than top-down clicking so you can't expect the player to do the same actions as they could in top-down

but I'm not saying you would be pacing back and forth for two minutes in front of a fallen waiting for openings, you'd still kill three of them with one cleave attack and then move on to the next thirty behind them

and diablo started as a relatively slow-paced game, and slow-paced is more spooky, and diablo should be a bit spooky

>>379835256
It didn't meet Blizzard's expectations at all.

Your favorite town hub music?

https://youtu.be/X2mlUlZbuxo

I just love the eerie atmosphere on this one, gearing yourself up, ready for a journey through jungle filled with demons and murder-dolls.

>>379834108
They've been beta testing him and the new content before release so they don't have many issues. The D3 team need this pack to do well.

>>379835756
Meant to quote >>379835684

>>379835685

Not to mention that of all of Blizzard's release, D3 is the only one to get universal backlash even from diehard Bliz fans.

>>379835419
One of the positive things I can say about D3 is that the killstreak bonus thing is a great idea and the way it encourages you to try and push on fast to extend it by finding another pack of enemies is great. If the D3 maps weren't so small, shitty and samey it would be even better.

also is there anyone here who'd like to go through the campaign of d3 with me at some point

i decided to finally buy it and want to play with a bunch of people and have a great time like i did in d2

>>379835798

>new content

What else is there? New zones?

>>379835784
No contest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=layjWs2IpS4

I still listen to it a few times a year

>>379834108
The maintenance team for D3 is cut to a janitor and two interns, so it takes time.

>>379835846
>have a great time like i did in d2
Anon, I've got bad news for you...

>>379835514
Diablo 2 had plenty of lore and worldbuilding as well as being "epic" in scope, but it never put story/cutscenes in the way of gameplay. With more and bigger zones it meant you actually got the feeling of going out into the wilderness/a dungeon rather than D3 having small zones with cutscenes or someone calling you on skype every 3 seconds so it feels more like a theme park ride.

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>>379835846
>have a great time like i did in d2
>Diablo 3

Cain dies in completely random cutscene. Adria is a villain. You are the chosen one. You kill Diablo again. Have fun.

>>379836028
tell me more

>Kill super undead
>They can revive
>Feel compelled to hang around to make sure they all stay dead even though I get nothing out of it

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>>379835863
There's a free update that will release at the same time which adds two new zones and some challenge rifts.

>>379836095
You'll never experience such joy again

>>379831557
BREAK BENEATH THE ENDLESS TIDE!

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>>379836071
>they could have gone with the "belial is cain" for a big reveal
>instead belial is the eight year old child emperor who just happens to be able to teleport and astral project himself to just where you need him even though he should have no idea what's going on while cain is killed by a fucking miniboss
lord of lies indeed

>>379836203
oh i know

it's pointless going into things to try and recreate something great you experienced before. its better to look to the forward than to the past

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Sorry D2 fags, but when it comes to dialogue D3 has you beat

>>379833304
>>379833185
>>379833090
Kormac is such a bro.

>>379836038

Azmodan has got to the silliest villain ever. Belial isn't too far behind for being how fucking obvious he was.

Nonsurprisingly a game made by hardcore Diablo 2 fans is now more of a true sequel to Diablo 3 than what piece of shit Activision-Blizzard made.

https://youtu.be/ljxcN9-BFlA


Well, Path of Exile and Torchlight 2, both better games than D3.

>>379836391
WARRIOR OF THE TEMPLAR ORDER

>>379831557
From Diablo 3 I remember the uninstall dialogue

>>379836327
One bit of dialogue in D2 says more about Diablo than the entire litany on the right

>>379835256
>>379835283
>still believing Blizzard's asspull numbers

>>379835185
It's not their first, but their biggest blunder so far.

Should probably just shut down the servers at this point.

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>tfw there will never be a d2 hd with the original 3d models and not sprites
feels sad and bad man

>>379836403
Azmodan makes more sense when you realize hes piss scared of you and just talking a big game. One of the weirdest things about the story is that your character is basically seen as an unstoppable death god by everyone else in the story by the end of the first Act. The rest of the game is enemies trying to stay as far from you as possible, because they know you will push their shit in.

>>379834108
>Blizzard
>Ever putting something out in reasonable time

>>379836327
I'll take those two lines over 3's cartoon villain bullshit.

Was Diablo 3 the biggest case of brand suicide in the entire history of video games?

>>379836506
If Blizzard bombed as hard with everything as /v/ makes it sound, they would have gone out of business about ten minutes into vanilla WoW.

>>379836543
>Diablo 2: Brianna Wu edition

no thanks i'll stick to my lowres character sprites

>>379836425
Too bad the skill gem system or whatever you call it is utter shit and the one thing that ruins the game.

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>>379836665
wtf are you even implying?

I remember the Buitchers intro from 3 because Mrbtongue made fun of it, aside from that I remember nothing from that game.

>>379836705

Why? Its better than the shit in D3 where only your set gear matters.

>>379836612

Probably. It's right up there with C&C4 for making sure the devs become disinterested in continuing the franchise.

Overwatch 2 is far more likely.

>>379836543
Why would you even want that? What is the advantage of 3D models over sprites?

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>>379836827
Because I just do.

>>379836771
I don't give a damn how shitty D3 is, the gem system still sucks.

>>379836489
Basically. It says Diablo 2 Diablo is a nightmarish monster from another plane of existence barely comprehensible by mortals while Diablo 3 Diablo is Skeletor (except way sexier)

>>379831557
>BELIAL. LORD... OF LIES

That's it

>>379836771
Having to socket and color equipment just to wear it is a needless, obnoxious convolution. Skills and equipment should not be tied together.

>>379836543
theyre remastering D2 as we speak

>>379836814
>Probably. It's right up there with C&C4 for making sure the devs become disinterested in continuing the franchise.
if blizzard went out and apologized for the way d3 was handled while apparently fixing all the flaws in d4 they'd break sales records again, even if the game ended up being broken in a shitload of new ways

fuck, I'd buy the game if they managed to fix the art style, music and story

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>>379837000
Source?

>>379837000
They don't have the assets, so don't count on it

>>379836771
There are numerous builds based more around legendaries than sets.

I don't really see an issue with a game where you can self find your way into any of a dozen viable builds within 10-20 hours of playtime. It gives you nice and steady jumps in power and improvements to the feel of your build while still giving you shit to work toward.

>>379836327
Those lines are fucking garbage, though.

>>379837000
The only things D2 needs is official support for modern resolutions and an option to change mouse sensitivity.

>>379836994

I like it, diversifies builds more because what type of weapon or armor you use determines how much you can add in support abilities to your primary abilities.

And part of the fun in these games is comparing stuff, theorycrafting and making compromises. One of the reasons why D3 is so terrible, is because they made that process far too simple.

Majority of the gameplay in this genre is quite simple already, so complexity in character building and gearing up is only a good thing.

>>379837020

I doubt that, considering Diablo 3 was a special case. It sold so much because of the hype behind Diablo 2. I don't think Blizzard can win over the public again considering what remains of the people still playing D3 are jaded as fuck.

>>379833090
By all that is Holy do you see that enemy over there!

>>379833743
>>379833560
I thought it was too, but it's not.

Turns out Metzen sounds like a lot of other people.

>>379837217
it's a blizzard game, they could shit in a can and earn billions, twice!

>>379836742
the models are really rough, they are definitely not meant to be shown by themselves but prerendered and fixed up

>>379836425
I'll probably give it another try, but POE has a massive amount of issues that most of its fans completely ignore. Its really irritating even trying to talk to fans of the game because of it.

Blizzard lost an insane amount of customer goodwill by screwing up Diablo 3.

They shot themselves in the foot.

They should just turn off the servers now and distance themselves from this trainwreck to save face

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>>379837268
so, gives it charm tbqhfam.

>>379836327
Not only are D3s lines pretty bad, but the absolutely terrible voice acting adds to it.

I distinctly remember Tyrael and Diablo insulting grating voice actors.

>>379837074

Problem in D3 is those are the only viable builds available and you cannot have home recipes for your own to beat the game. Every new run and season you always run the exact same shit for the exact same loot.

Sure, D2 and its Hammerdins and Frost Orb sorcs too but you weren't absolutely required to play them to get to the end game. If theres no room or system encouraging you to try weird as fuck-builds of your own, then the game is simply more boring.

And thats the main problem of D3. Not the fact its Baby's First Arpg, if they want casuals then fine. Main problem is boredom. It gets boring pretty fucking fast. Because the gear system in it ties your hands too much, the skill ceiling for the game is far too low.

Sure, you can build broken as fuck builds in Path of Exile too but there the real skill doesn't come with beating all the content, it comes with either beating it fastest, or figuring out some really creative way of beating it all.

>>379837176
>>379837176
What complexity? Get the shiniest rare you can jew off someone, with the most linked sockets you can, then focus on 1 or 2 abilities while having enough survivability to not get one shot.

Wow, thats really complex. At least D3 is designed from the ground up to make most builds need at least a few different abilities working together to get you anywhere.

I've never understood how people find it fun to play builds based around 1 skill they spam ad infinitum.

Same problem people that love titan quest have. I don't get it.

>>379837284

Name them.

>>379837408

I honestly wanted to kill Diablo as quick as possible because the fucker wouldnt fucking shut up

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>>379831557
"How do I know I can trust you, hmm??" - Lysander the Potion Maker, Act II

d3 sucked, D2 REMASTER WHEN?

>>379837638
>Diablo becomes a woman
>Starts nagging you like a woman
rlly maeks u think................

>>379837530
>Every new run and season you always run the exact same shit for the exact same loot.
What are you even talking about? Every single class has multiple viable builds that are within a few Grifts of each other performance wise, and you have entire builds that work specifically in groups, and others specifically for single player. There is a good deal of variety and I don't get how anyone can pretend you have to play the same build every single season. Thats stupid.

Second, the same shit?

You mean like how POE is speed running through the same couple acts on three different difficulties until you get to maps and then spamming maps forever?

And please, POE doesn't encourage shit. POE is one of the most restrictive ARPGs out there in terms of letting a player experiment with builds. Its extremely easy to build a character in a way that makes getting to even higher difficulties possible, let alone doing top level content. D3 isn't punishing at all to experimental builds. Yeah, they won't always perform as well as super optimized builds, but so what? You can still push decently far if you just make sure all the pieces fit together decently.

Unless your only definition of endgame is getting top ten leaderboards every season, D3 gives you a much, much wider array of options than POE does as far as actually letting your character experience all the content.

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>>379837741
Dem hips though

>>379834341
and because he was 1/7 Andariel

>>379837550

>At least D3 is designed from the ground up to make most builds need at least a few different abilities working together to get you anywhere.

You can do the exact same shit in Path of Exile if you want, nothing prevents you from doing it. And thats the keyword for why its better: You can customise your playstyle more, because its less restrictive.

If you want to be a boring shit, go ahead and copy the most broken build you find online, sit in the trade for hours until you get your gear and then start playing. Hell, just pay someone to level up a character for you so you don't have to use your brains at all.

But the game also allows you to do different shit than that if you really want. Just because you refuse and rather just look the most OP builds and play a character someone else made for you, not the fault of the game, you lazy dipshit. Play SSF so you actually have to go and play the game to find that shiniest rare first.

Anyone gonna go back and pick up that Necromancer when it releases?

>>379837897
>tfw no gypsie gf to telekinetically mangle my dick

>>379837530
>Problem in D3 is those are the only viable builds available and you cannot have home recipes for your own to beat the game.

D3 has issues but this is asinine. You can beat D3 with shit off the vendor, no set, no runes.

>Every new run and season you always run the exact same shit for the exact same loot.

Also complete horse shit since they keep updating and adding legendaries that make more builds viable.

I like D2 too bruh but you're completely ignorant about this.

D2 felt like a well written novel. Even the tome in black marsh was easy on the ears. All monsters said little but still had that malice and evil to them
>looking for baal?
>join my army
>the actual brutaly tortured rogue's bodies in the cloister

D3 is literally "wait...that card!" Tier garbage
>raaaaarrrr how did...you!
>haha! Did you think I needed minions to have an army?
>how could such a strong and awesom good guy do such cool and Badass thing?! They have earned the banana sticker! I am defeated!

It's all self wank to make the player feel rewarded, where as D2 had the feeling of despiration that even if you win, you'd be changed for ever. Winning in D2 felt rewarding, like all odds were against you and you fought literal demons. D3 continually told you "YOU ARE SPECIAL. NOTHING CAN STOP OUR BRAVE BABY BOY! ZAP TO THE EXTREME!".

also loot was aweful. Even the shitty unique drops olin D2 was like Christmas. In D3 it's "this will last 2 maybe 3 levels."

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>>379837957
>tfw zon gf to rape me

>>379837890

>D3 gives you a much, much wider array of options than POE does as far as actually letting your character experience all the content.

Problem is theres way less of that content. Plus you're full of shit and you know it. Fucking Blizz-fanboys.

>>379837897

>sorceress was the wizard's master

How? The wizard was living in not-china and the sorceress was doing all kinds of crazy ass shit and trying not to be insane after the worldstone exploded.

>>379837956
Probably. I doubt I'll get sucked back into playing the game a lot, but.

>>379837609
Tedium of rerunning the same acts on the same difficulties for every character.

Shit drop rates for anything you would actually want so you have to use their extremely shitty trade interface to build anything worth building.

Tons of useless skills that have no place in any build.

Tedious map farming.

Only a tiny amount of monsters make for even decent specters, severely limiting the skill.

Always Online, which for some reason is completely unforgivable for D3, but totally fine for POE.

Very easy to build a character that is literally impossible to advance with, requiring you to endure the tremendous tedium to try a new character that might work better.

Damage you take is divided into "negigible" and "die in a single hit".

And thats just off the top of my head. I haven't played in like 2 years, but those are the ones I easily remember.

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>>379834154
>naked
mmm Act I goodness

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>>379838108
>D3 """""""""""""""""""""""""""lore"""""""""""""""""""""""
Damn nigga, dat's a good joke.

>>379837956

I will. I hope the female Necomancer is voiced by Claudia Black.

>>379831557
>playing shitty blizzard trash.
This board is a joke now.

>>379837949
>You can do the exact same shit in Path of Exile if you want, nothing prevents you from doing it.
No one does though. Because its incredibly inefficient. Almost every build is built around 1 or 2 active abilities and everything else in the build designed around supporting them. Its literally a consequence of the game design.

Don't pretend for a second it isn't.

There are only a handful of builds that do anything with more than 1 or 2 skills.

>>379837956
I'm tempted but I don't have RoS and I'm not willing to pay more than $10 for it.

>>379838029
>Winning in D2 felt rewarding, like all odds were against you and you fought literal demons
I remember killing diablo for the first time, I had to hide behind the flying buttresses of the chaos sanctuary and corner-snipe him with fire traps, it took me like thirty minutes but it was fair since he could take out like half my health with the undodgeable infinite-aoe fire nova and he still chased me around

>>379838029
>Even the shitty unique drops olin D2 was like Christmas
Yeah no.

>>379837998

>Also complete horse shit since they keep updating and adding legendaries that make more builds viable.

Yeah, 2 new sets that make builds they themselves told players to play, now viable after half a year hiatus. Wow.

Meanwhile in Diablo 2 you can run through Hell difficulty completely naked if you know what you're doing. Or you can play a greedy as fuck Barb with Find Item build and gamble away. In Diablo 3 you follow a restricted set of skills that you need specific items for to actually do anything in late game.

And finding those sets easily is actually a BAD thing, because it quits being cool loot once it becomes both mandatory and easily available in every single run. Theres no adaptation in D3, thats the biggest problem.

>>379831557
>Okay, now how many quotes or enemies can you remember from Diablo 3?
BUL KATHOS GUIDE MY HAND

anyone who doesn't main barb is playing it wrong

>>379838223

I love how much nudity stuff you can get away with when your character models are 2D sprites. Also reminds me Ragnarok Online where you had girls being tentacle fucked as enemy monster but no one batted an eye because of the cutesy graphics and low res sprites.

>>379838336
>I had to hide behind the flying buttresses of the chaos sanctuary and corner-snipe him with fire traps, it took me like thirty minutes but it was fair since he could take out like half my health with the undodgeable infinite-aoe fire nova

That sounds really boring. Tedious would be the word I guess.

>>379838082
Wow, such a great response.

So now its not that POE is better at letting players experience the content, its that POE has MORE content?

And who gives a shit anyway, its still the same "dash to map spam" its been forever.

But sure, prove my point that talking to POE fans is like talking to an autistic brick wall.

>>379838029
Yeah D3 is a diablo/WoW crossover, all the original diablo 2 talent have either fucked off from jizzard or killed themselves by 2008

>>379838469
I said he chased me around, he didn't just sit still like a retard and let himself get hit

it was absolutely nerve-wracking

>>379838339
Pfft, come on, bone crusher on early wolf druid? Or how about getting that unidentified golden ring, sweating as you hope for SoJ
>stone of Jordan in D3 is garbage
That right there is enough to instantly make me flaccid

>>379838469

I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of ranged classes did anon.

My Bowazon basically just shot at him from outside of his field of view for like 15 mins he would fucking poke me and 2/3rds of my hp would just vanish.

>>379837956
Yeah. I play every season for at least a bit anyway, I don't know why I wouldn't try necro this upcoming one. I just hope they get a good VA.

I was praying they would get Mcglynn for the femsader and they did.

They have been super on point at getting great VAs for most of the classes so I hope that trend continues.

I like Diablo 3 a lot but I can't imagine there is anyone that actually thinks the writing is even passable.
Some of the side characters are fun at least. Templar is the best.

>>379836901
b-b-b-but its betTER THAN DEE-THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>379838494
Grief was a mistake. The only thing that compares is an ethereal two-handed BOTD, but then you have to be two-handed. They also shouldn't have given it the weird +damage flavor of damage that applies to smite for no real reason and only exists on one other item in the game.

"there's no such thing as demons, uncle"
"help save me from the not-demons"
then dumbass niece was the demons

diablo III is a hunk of shit and the "it's good now" meme needs to die

>>379838029
>Even the shitty unique drops olin D2 was like Christmas
Not really. Nothing I hated more than getting shitty low level set items or the crappier uniques. At least in D3 most shit has a use. Even low level shit can be cubed and used when you hit max level.

>>379838365
You can play whatever you want in D3. Or PoE. Or D2. But you know what? No one fucking does in ANY of these games unless it's some one in a billion "I'm gunna do a challenge run" sort of person. Stop trying to pretend like any of these games have any variation.

People play top tier builds, by and large. You can play some rando bullshit no rune naked run faggotry in D3 just like any of the others. Why would you? You wouldn't. Just like you wouldn't in D2. Or PoE. Or an MMO. It's the reason you aren't going to play a deck of 39 land and one Icy Wurm in Magic. It's the reason you aren't going to play a deck of Wisps, Goldshire Footmen, and shit like that in Hearthstone. Because that kind of shit isn't fun.

At least D3 has several viable builds every season for each class. The problem I have is that more and more of them are basically
>maintain megabuff
>click spender
>maintain defensive buff
ad nauseum instead of feeling like distinct builds anymore. That's somewhat overgeneralizing but it still feels like D3's greatest problem. Also why I can't stand FF XIV anymore. Every job at endgame basically feels like the same thing.

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>>379838747
Cry about it.

>>379838774
Maybe people like it for the game part more than the story part they don't actually pay attention to.

>>379838170

>Tedium of rerunning the same acts on the same difficulties for every character.

Then I guess you might want to try the game again next month, while D3 gets a Necromancer, Path of Exile gets 10 acts, one new act and then you get modified "return Acts" with new quests and areas.

>Shit drop rates for anything you would actually want so you have to use their extremely shitty trade interface to build anything worth building.

If getting what you want is easy, the game loses its point entirely. D3 Auction House nearly ruined the whole game.

>Tons of useless skills that have no place in any build.

Name them.

>Only a tiny amount of monsters make for even decent specters, severely limiting the skill.

Once again might want to try out the next expansion, they promised huge buffs on minions, not sure what it means for Specters though.

>Always Online, which for some reason is completely unforgivable for D3, but totally fine for POE.

D3 you have to buy before you play. Path of Exile you dont have to pay anything ever if you don't want to. Full retail games should not be always online, thats fucking bullshit, I already paid for the game.

>Very easy to build a character that is literally impossible to advance with, requiring you to endure the tremendous tedium to try a new character that might work better.

Build enough survivability and you can get to the end game without constantly dying. You wont be able to speedrun the game with crappier builds but you'll still eventually get almost to Shaper before you hit a wall.

>Damage you take is divided into "negigible" and "die in a single hit".

You just described Arpg as a genre. Diablo himself has the most signature "fuck you insta-KO"-ability in all Arpg history.

>>379838774
Did you know that originally she was supposed to be just a normal quest giver with no big involvement in the story? But then Metzen saw her and turned her into his corruption fetish waifu.

>>379836185
When IS Necro? I enjoy being Blood Raven but I need Necro in my life

>>379838889
it's hard to not pay attention to it when there's about sixteen billion hours of cutscenes and obligatory dialogue through the campaign

>>379839008
Season 10 is ending on June 23 and this time the downtime between seasons is a month. That pretty much confirms the necro for season 11.

>>379834421
This fucker later left because he didnt like the direction Diablo 3 development went. Fuck this guy

>>379835402
someone on the team was watching Army of Darkness obviously.

>>379838981
I'm wondering what Blizzard will do now that he's gone. HURF DURF NU-BLIZZ SUX retardation aside, his influence was pretty much there on everything Blizzard put out. And at first I though the MUH CORRUPTION thing was a meme until I started thinking about it. Dude seriously had a giant boner for corruption.

>>379838285

>No one does though. Because its incredibly inefficient. Almost every build is built around 1 or 2 active abilities and everything else in the build designed around supporting them. Its literally a consequence of the game design.

>Don't pretend for a second it isn't.

So you're saying D2 is actually shit because everyone ran the 2 most OP builds in it as well? Fuck you.

So what if some players don't like to experiment with the game? Point is the game is good if you CAN experiment in it. Thats something D3 fundamentally did not understand what makes Arpgs appealing. Thats what made D2 so good.

ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE ME
BEWARE

>>379831557
Zero for both? The barbarians i played were too busy spinninh and winning

>>379836185

I wont lie, but that necro is qt.

Is Bliz the only western dev left who know how to make idealized female characters?

>>379838889
I think D3 does some gameplay parts well, but the fucking awful writing is really intrusive.

>>379839213
fucking forced diversity

>>379838981
Girls turning into sexy demon girls IS really hot though.

>>379839094
I thought he was forcefully reassigned to another team?

>>379839264
Yea, literally.

>>379838774
I assume everyone just plays Adventure mode now anyways

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>>379839259
But indian sorceress is ok.

>>379838967
>If getting what you want is easy, the game loses its point entirely.
I didn't say getting items in POE was hard. I said it requires using a garbage trading system to do. Anyone can farm currency and trade it for whatever your FOTM build needs. That doesn't mean its hard, its just tedious and relies on a shitty system that for some reason hasn't been improved for years, because clearly a shitty in game system is a "challenge" that only only shitty casuals dislike.

>Once again might want to try out the next expansion, they promised huge buffs on minions, not sure what it means for Specters though.

People said the same shit when the last act was added, and then they nerfed the only new spectre worth a shit into the ground within a week.

>Build enough survivability and you can get to the end game without constantly dying. You wont be able to speedrun the game with crappier builds but you'll still eventually get almost to Shaper before you hit a wall.
So thanks for reinforcing what I said?

And really, telling me to try POE again because its getting a massive update that *MIGHT* fix things is stupid. Everytime they get anywhere near improving things, they find a way to take two steps back.

>>379838852

>People play top tier builds, by and large. You can play some rando bullshit no rune naked run faggotry in D3 just like any of the others. Why would you? You wouldn't. Just like you wouldn't in D2.

Yeah, they made SSF a league in PoE just because there wasnt enough players for it and everyone just speedran with the most broken build online.

Looks like you're one of those retards who dont actually create his own characters, just played Frost Orb in D2 all the time and then said the game is boring as shit because you "can only play this build that I found online and nothing else."

Problem is you, not the game.

>>379833586
Kek

>>379831557
Ooooh hadrig... blaaaarrrrrrrhhhhhggggg

>>379835227
>it should be like dark souls but faster

No. Diablo is an entirely different type of game.

This one of the biggest problems with gaming. When a game is unique and fun, people want more of it, so devs start making games that capitalize on the motif. That's why we have 5 or 6 Assassin's Creed clones, button mash fighters, and grimdark horror sims. It gets over done, stale. Then gamers complain about no good games at E3 when devs where just giving them what they asked for.

>>379836327

WAIT. i understand now.

Diablo talks so fucking much in 3 because he possessed a woman!

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>diablo 3 necro doesn't get bone wall

>>379839141
>So what if some players don't like to experiment with the game? Point is the game is good if you CAN experiment in it. Thats something D3 fundamentally did not understand what makes Arpgs appealing.

So your definition of a good game is one where you can experiment. Well, good news, you actually can mix and match legendaries in D3 to make tons of builds perfectly playable through decently high end stuff.

So whats your complaint about D3 again?

Band of Nephalem > D2 Adventurers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D1 shmucks.

>>379839346

>That doesn't mean its hard, its just tedious and relies on a shitty system that for some reason hasn't been improved for years,

Because the genre is better off without a "good" trading system that just trivializes loot. If you can easily find what you need from the trade system, then whats the point of playing the game? You already have the best loot you could ever have for your build so theres no point doing anymore maps, or dungeons.

Finding that shit yourself with trading system giving a little bit help but not too much is THE APPEAL OF THE GAME. What is the point of loot if you instantly find the best item available in the game?

>>379831557
>now how many quotes or enemies can you remember from Diablo 3
FOOLISH NEPHALEM

DIDN'T NEED THOSE CATAPULTS ANYWAY

TO ME, YOU BEASTS! LET NONE TOUCH ME!

>>379839484
>die in Aranoch
>you get mummified
>the guy doing it replaces your head with a bear skull and one of your arms with a scythe
I'd be pissed too

>>379839661

Dark magic bars our way...

BUT THE WILL OF A TEMPLAR IS STRONGER

Kormac is best

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>>379831557
Even though that d3 is well crafted and well designed crap, you gotta be kidding with statments like: "how much do you remember"

d2 i played when i was 11-sh, and d3 more then 10 years later i just dont care at that age,
Bet that newfags didn't play d2 at all and oldfags dont care about d3

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>>379839661
>TO ME YOU BEASTS! LE-
Fix'd.

>>379839605
>Because the genre is better off without a "good" trading system that just trivializes loot.

I can't believe a sane person would type this and actually expect to be taken seriously.

Because its so fun and rewarding to play a game where its nearly impossible to find good loot, and its also a huge mess to trade for the loot you would ever want to have. Its a wonderful feature of a great game.

>>379839767
Even better

TO ME Y-*dead*

>>379839567
>end game to experiment
Fuck off retard

>>379839567

>So your definition of a good game is one where you can experiment. Well, good news, you actually can mix and match legendaries in D3 to make tons of builds perfectly playable through decently high end stuff.

No you can't. Further ahead you go, less and less your homebrews become viable, because the damage is tied up too much into your gear. Its not exactly an experimental build anymore if you still use the same skillsets and same set items but just in a slightly different order.

At least PoE has some (admittedly broken) fun items that really diversify the skills and the gear you play with, like the jewel that gives you a hefty damage bonus for every blue item you wear on yourself.

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>>379839838
Yee

Just hit 70 after not playing since the 1.0 days and quitting because inferno was a goddamn nightmare.
What is the end game of d3 now? Doing rifts for all eternity and pushing torment levels up? Does each new torment level increase drop rates?

>>379839779

>Durrr this game is awesome, I went to the trading system and got the best gear for my character I looked up online. Now I don't have to actually go and play the game because my character is already finished! Yes, GODDAMN this game is great!

D3 fans are the cancer of this genre.

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>>379831557
Stay a while and listen... fucker

>>379839917

pretty much. its the exact sort of content the genre has

its a vast improvement over D2's 'endgame'

>>379831557

>How many quotes can you remember from Diablo 2?

Maybe like, 2.

>How about enemies?

Maybe like 7

>How about D3?

Zero quotes and maybe 7 enemies. What is your point?

>>379839867
>No you can't. Further ahead you go, less and less your homebrews become viable
This is exactly true for POE, and you can go further with more shit in D3 than you can in POE. You can at least finish the game and do rifts in D3 with just about anything that isn't completely and obviously useless with just a legendary or two.

Why are you ignoring this in POE but smashing D3 for it?

>>379838852
>People play top tier builds, by and large.
maybe in poe
dunno about d3

in d2 people played everything, the nature of its skill allocation system probably helped in that regard as well.

>>379839917

Malthael is bitch to fight. That is all.

Cool attack animations though.

>>379839917
what is the end game of any of these games? you grind for better loot, that's it

>>379839917
it's just a treadmill grind with rifts

Aaaarogant Nephelim-
Enough! My follow-
Aaaarogant Nephelim-
UUUURGH

>>379839860
It takes like, 1 hour to get to max level, and you can play around with legendaries you find at any point. I don't get why you are so hostile about it.

D2 or D3 are way better than PoE. Hell I'd play Darkstone before I ever play PoE again.

>>379839983
You're right about this but you're wasting your time. AH fags are honestly subhuman, they can't understand why they're wrong or even have a conversation about the issue.

>>379839451
I'm not saying it should be a dark souls clone, it's just the closest example to what I imagine third person diablo to be like, there's probably some other third person action rpg that fits better, but I don't think something like god of war would be a good translation

"diablo souls" would have different skill system, different weapon system, different loot, different speed, different class system, different level design paradigm, different movement, viable range combat, etc, it would really barely be recognizable as souls clone if at all

I just think that third person would be a much better fit for this type of game, diablo 1 is a 21 year old game that wasn't even supposed to be real-time, just because it was good then doesn't mean it's the best choice these days

>>379839983
I honestly don't get what your point is. Are you saying these games are only good if you can't ever actually put a build together? Because that is what it sounds like.

LOOK UPON THESE GARDENS

also

WELCOME TO MY REALM OF TEHROWR

God, why is nu-Diablo so goddamn talkative.

>>379837359
What the fuck are you talking about?
Blizzard is stupidly popular with WoW, Hearthstone and Overwatch.
A few upset Diablo 2 fans are a drop in the bucket.

>>379838852
I just switched from marauders / yang multishot pet build to a UE impale build and holy shit. My one on one killing potential is way higher but it became a much more dangerous game. It feels like I'm playing an entirely different class right now.

To be honest it feels just like being Bowazon forever and then making a Pike amazon in D2, only I can now SAVE SET, SKILL, AND GEM LOAD OUTS I'VE MADE and switch builds whenever I'm in town. Holy fuck thank god. D2 didn't even let you respec for a long time.

I hated D3 when I first played it new. I came back a month or two ago and joined a season and it was like a brand new game. Story is HOT GARBAGE and the game lacks demon sex waifus outside Succubus but the rest of the game is reminiscent of D2. 30 burgerbux for main game and expansion now if anyone else was looking to try it out

>>379840323
Just ignore him. Hes one of those guys that are convinced that blizzard is one day away from bankruptcy everyday for the last ten years.

Their insane obsession with Blizzard isn't meant to be understood.

>>379835402
I like it. Remember the skeleton laugh from Everquest?

>>379831557
How about diablo 1 quotes though
>Ah, your curiousity will be the death of you, hehehe!
>It is getting HOT in here

>>379840323

"few". Son, Diablo is fucking dead. Hasn't it surprised you that Bliz has shied away from ever mentioning Diablo again?

There's even speculation that all the free content getting patched into the game was actually parts of the scrapped expansion that was supposed to be next after Reaper of Souls.

Paladin = Necromancer > everyone else

>>379840340
>impale
>on UE

shadow yourself my man

>>379840146
>dude just power level you dont have to do shit
And this why D3 is shit. Every fucking season its the same fucking shit.

>>379840340
I got 6 friends into it a couple weeks ago. We managed to get through the conquests this season then put it down until next season. Its a fun little game to play for a couple weeks every few months, especially with buddies.

>>379840047

>This is exactly true for POE,

No it isnt. Once again once you just build enough survivability for your homebrew, you can get through almost all the endgame content in Path of Exile.

Thats plenty more diversity in builds than in Diablo 3 where you're absolutely required to wear certain set items on you.

Although Path of Exile isn't perfect, they're nerfing Energy Shield builds come next expansion while buffing Life-ones so you dont have to put so many nodes on it. But they didnt really do much for pure Evasion- builds. So one thing which is kinda boring in Path of Exile is that the way you have to build survivability doesn't allow all that much experimenting. Game needs something like defensive skills that have immense effects but actually work worse the more defence you have in your gear and stats, or something like that.

>>379840479
>Diablo is fucking dead.
That doesn't mean Blizzard is out of goodwill.
People will keep supporting their other games.

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>>379840458
"How much suffering, mortal, does it take before you lose your grace? Let me show you."

>>379840458
Griswold? Ah Good old Griswold.

>>379840207

>Are you saying these games are only good if you can't ever actually put a build together?

I'm saying the game is good when you have to actually play the game to put your build together. Auction houses go directly against this.

I can't wait for Blizz to wrap up Diablo 3 and WoW so they can move on to World of Diablo, a badass new MMO set in Tristram post-D2.

>>379840207
its like youre saying that couldnt change drop rates or something.

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>>379840491
Correct.

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*slams open really loudly and suddenly*

>>379840682

What happened to the paladin post D2 anyway?

>>379840527
As opposed to what exactly? What ARPG are you thinking of where the leveling experience is what everyone plays them for?

>>379840561
>Thats plenty more diversity in builds than in Diablo 3 where you're absolutely required to wear certain set items on you.

You aren't ever REQUIRED to wear set items as any class unless your goal is to get to the higher Grifts. You obviously have a very specific definition of endgame content if you think you do. Yes, you aren't going to do much with just rares, but there are dozens of legendaries for each class that can be built around and let you push high enough to experience everything the game has to offer.

POE doesn't give you remotely that much freedom.

>>379840491
>Diablo 2 Classic before immunities
Sorceress only. Frozen orb only.
>Diablo 2 Classic after immunities
Sorceress only. Nova/thunder storm/frozen orb
>Diablo 2 1.08 and 1.09
Windforce amazons
>Diablo 2 1.10, 1.11, 1.12
Paladin with blessed hammer

>>379834108
There's like 3 people left at Diablo. They were all moved to WoW so they can create shitty legendaries.

>>379840729
wait, you could put scrolls into belt slots?

>>379840323
Diablo 3 lost 65% of its players after the first few weeks. Its a huge disapointment>>379840340

>>379840761
went back to Zakarum and helped the crusaders probably

>>379840458
>"Hi! I'm free, free to confront the little man who banished me, Diablo. Hi, everybody, and I'm free to reward you, little mortal, with these Aerosmith tickets. You'll be getting backstage passes, you'll get to meet Steven Tyler and the whole band. This Friday at the Coliseum. Thanks for getting me out of there. By the way, I'm gonna have to kill you. I'll be right back with the traffic and weather together."

>>379840656
So just Diablo but with way more players per session?

>>379840526
I use shadow but GR 50+ pushes my shit in if I'm not EXTREMELY careful. I'm having to learn to skip trash rather than mow it down like multishot. Then I have way too much shit following me at times when I stop to assassinate an elite and panic.

Also I think I mentioned the wrong set, yes, thank you for the correction.

>>379840446
EverQuest is why laughing skeletons will always be the best skeletons.

>>379840812
>people buy game
>complete it in the first few weeks
>never touch it again
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm really makes me think

>>379840641
I never even used the word auction house. Not once. I just said the game had shit drop rates and an even shitter trading interface and system.

There are plenty of fixed for these. A better trading system that didn't come out of 1990 would be a good start.

Or targeted loot drops.

Or an expanded and improved crafting system.

Or tons of other shit.

But I never once said auction house, but you can't stop bringing it up. Why is that? Because you can't actually come up with a response so you have to make shit up?

>>379840812
It doesn't matter. Diablo isn't a sub based game. What counts is base sales and it was a massive fucking success.

>>379840761

He moved from Paladin to Cotton Picker.

>>379840835
It would have to be able to support a large number of players, yes.

>>379840812

Why can't they just fucking release the offline mode for PC already. The playerbase is already non existent for them to be bothered about hackers.

>>379840915

>But I never once said auction house, but you can't stop bringing it up. Why is that? Because you can't actually come up with a response so you have to make shit up?

Because this is a Diablo thread, and Diablo 3 was ruined by Auction House, while Diablo 2 had even shittier trading system. So what else did you think I was going to compare Path of Exile into? Titan Quest? Pay attention.

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>>379840761
Dunno, all I know is the d3 team seems to dislike anything d2 related.

>>379841007
Because the game is completely designed around online play.

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>>379833090
Literally the only dialogue I remember is meme templar.

WHAT A MONSTROUS CREATURE

>>379841039
I was expecting you to respond in a way that made sense for the conversation, instead of going off on random tangents, like you just did again. I know its impossible for you to admit POE does something anything less than perfectly, but it has flaws and you look like a retard denying them.

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>>379840812
It was at launch. It got somewhat better in late classic. And RoS was pretty much the start of it becoming a pretty good game. D2 has its perks, D3 has its perks. There's nothing wrong with liking both games. Path of Exile isn't my thing but at least it exists for people who do like it.

>>379840761
Left our world to join some iteration of Heroes of the Storm

>>379841082

Then why is offline play available for consoles?

>>379840919
Companies care about commercial sucess and consumer sucess. We wont be getting Diablo 4

>>379841187

I assumed you were comparing Path of Exile to Diablo 3 like I was. If not, then I apologize.

Of course Path of Exile has tons of problems. Still way better game than D3. Path of Exile's problems aren't fundamental game breaking problems, unlike D3 and its own problems that just ruin the whole game.

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>>379841258
fug

>>379841050
Yes, because one dipshit making a retarded comment equals an entire team hating the game they all played for years.

>>379839267

no he went and worked on Legion, which is why it has a bunch of garbage D3 grind mechanics now.

>>379841207
>There's nothing wrong with liking both games.
looks like you are new to /v/

>>379840458
I can see what you see not

>>379836305
And than he turns into a huge dinosaur.

>>379840863
build lowered skill cost

spam Shadow-powered linked smoke screen for further resource cost reduction.

>>379841324
>aren't fundamental game breaking problems
They are for me. Might not be for you. I can't stand Path of Exile's gameplay and skill system. I get it. I get why some people like it. But every time I've played it I just wind up thinking
>I'd rather be playing Diablo 2 if I had to play a game like this

>>379841207
>liking more than one thing
Fuck off faggot.

>>379841319
you know everyone except a few /v/ grognards would come back to diablo 4 like loyal dogs if they fixed the art style and appeared to fix the flaws in itemization and skill choices

>>379841319
We'll get a new Diablo game, but it won't be a successor to Diablo so much as it will be a highly publicized mega MMO like World of Warcraft. World of Diablo is probably a working title.

A Diablo 3 thread. Thanks for reminding me of the taste of disappointment.

I guess the game being that bad saved me from countless hours of massive immersion and grinding, at least.

the funniest complaint I hear about D3 is the ability to switch skills and builds on the fly, like it's actually a bad thing that you don't have to make a new character every time you want to try a different idea

>>379836814

Look, d3 was not as good as it should be, but do not compare it to the abortion of a game that was c&c4, not a single living soul liked that game

>>379841363
Diablo 3 still isn't as bad as Legion.

>Hop in greater rift
>Run through
>Zero legendaries because I already have one
>Finish and leave
>Start again
>"Sorry come back tomorrow! We need to pad out your monthly sub so stop playing today."

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>>379841348
>THE CRUSADER IS A SUPER DUPER BADASS UNLIKE THAT NIGGER PALADIN WHOSE ORDER IS CORRUPT AS FUCK, BUT NOT OUR ARYAN CRUSADER
Just a theory. A gay theory.

>>379841324
>Path of Exile's problems aren't fundamental game breaking problems
They actually are for a lot of people. There are a ton of things about the game that make it miserable to play, and I don't understand why that is hard to get your head around. Many of the problems have been listed in this thread in fact, but they are glossed over.

>>379836425

>TL2
>good.

My favorite part is the devs completely abandoning the game the right release.

>>379841550
I like it, but it removes any sense of uniqueness to your character.

>>379841507
I wouldn't mind a new MMO to be honest

>>379836425
Torchlight 2 was pure shit. You take that back.

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>>379839470

>>379841550
because it doesn't feel like your character has any sort of identity that feeds into a sense of progression

>>379841550

The devs simply dont want you to suffer through the horrid campaign mode over and over again.

>>379841550
People like making unique characters and planning them out.

Rerolling a new character in D2 was awesome. I made like 20+ different necros back in the day.

>>379841504
>fixed
Some people actually like the item based build system. As hard as that may be for you to understand. I don't really miss how D2 was literally just stacking health, resists and +skill points everywhere with a few rune words splashed in for their unique effects.

>>379836814
>>379841564
I was really confused by these posts.
I thought "C&C" meant Command & Conquer but Red Alert 3 was the last game they made in that series so why are these people saying 4.
They never made a 4.

>>379841238
This image makes me want a game where you play as an entirely mundane person in a mundane town doing mundane tasks, but set in the Diablo universe. And every now and again a rogue skeleton or pack of fallen ones shows up and potentially eradicates everything you've built up.

>>379838039
My skin is spongy and soft, but my spirit is willing!

>>379841575
Legion killing alt viability is what made me finally walk away from WoW and cancel a sub I've had since vanilla. I actually enjoyed a lot of the content, but even if I spent every hour of my free time on Legion I wouldn't be able to keep all of my alts up to par.

Was never an issue in prior xpacs. But the obsession with daily grinding in Legion is fucking weird. And they brought garrisons back after making so many promises that order halls were Totally Not Gonna Be Garrisons At All. I'm not even mad at Blizzard. I'm mad at myself for believing them.

>>379841007
They don't want you to find out about predetermined RNG and loot servers :^)

>>379841718
It does though. Its based on what gear you have though, instead of what skills you have. Your gameplay changes dramatically as you get certain build defining items, and that gives a very real sense of progression. People just can't wrap their head around that here for some reason.

>>379841597
Man I totally forgot how many people flipped their shit when they found out the paladin in D2 would have black skin. Like completely ordinary people I knew at school were suddenly all "I HATE NIGGERS!" and shit.

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>>379840479
>Hasn't it surprised you that Bliz has shied away from ever mentioning Diablo again?
A good chunk of the last Heroes of the Storm heroes were from Diablo

>>379841864
Exact same boat here.
Now I play Final Fantasy because alt classing is heavily encouraged and supported.