>Supporting high temperatures, lower minimum framerates, and

Shit perfs.

You shouldn't support antisemites.

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IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS

>>379827436
i ask you bro
should i go rysen 1700 oc or 7700 k
need bench with source and did the ram 3000 mhz is fixed on motherboard ?

>>379827436
7700 is literally better than any Ryzen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUd2r9SIHP8

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Intel is a stuttering nightmare

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>>379827742
>7700 is literally better than any Ryzen.
>links video comparing mid tier Ryzen to Intel's high end

>GNU/NEET amdshills from /g/ are now shilling on /v/
>>>/g/
>>>/g/

back to your dying containment board

>>379827742
compare1600 with 7700 ok
i know why russian are retarded now

>>379827436
I need a new mainboard with it and am waiting for them to iron out all problems and shit. I don't wanna be an early adopter.

i'm poor so I use a 8350

>>379827895
>locked 7700
>Intel's high end
You aymdfags are so desperate. Here's another video with NON-K 7700 against Ryzen 7. Guess who won? Protip: Intel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLj0kDHl-_I

R5 1600 with rx480 8gb
I can ultra everything no worries and it makes Intel fanbois mad.

>>379827436
Ryzen is shit though

>muh price and performance
(lol

The 1800X gets shat on by a quadcore 7700k save for meme synthetic benchmarks

>>379827436
the list goes like this:

budget tier: pentium g4560
low mid to high mid: r5 1500 to 1700x
high end: i7 7700k

This is obviously if you're purely using your rig for gaming and don't care about longevity of the platform or upgradability of your rig as intel likes switching sockets often.

>>379828232
Nice meme but sorry, Ryzen is shit.

>>379828019
barelly same framerate
so?

>>379828019
>pay 100 dollars more on mobo/CPU just for 2 more frames and lower minimums

JUST

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>>379828019

>>379828232

>high end
>7700k
>4 core CPU
>buying a CPU thats on 90+% load

you deserve getting jewed

>>379828383
>100 dollars more on mobo
I guess you're fucking retarded. You can literally use 7700 with cheapest H110 mobo. Also, good luck with shitty B350 boards lol.

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>tfw even the newest AMJEW processors can't beat an i3-6100

>M-MUH CORES
>almost no video games make use of them

>B-B-BBUT VIDEO PROCESSING

LOL

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>AMDshit cpu requires stupid expensive RAM

>>379828019
>SMT off

Feels like the point of this video isn't so much Intel winning, so much as it's how Ryzen keeps up even with the feature that was supposed to be their answer to Hyperthreading.

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>>379827436
Still using an i7 990x, any reason to upgrade yet?

>>379827436
>Single core performance equivalent to 2-generation old Intel CPUs
HAHAHAHAHA
No thanks

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>>379827436
>Even jayz and linus from linustechtips have stopped shilling Intel after ryzen was released

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>>379828645
The funny part is how with SMT ON things are even worse for Ryzen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_NpKLuq7pQ

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>>379827714
>>379827832
>>379828749

>tfw 1600 coming wednesday
>tfw no RX580 because bitcoin miners fucking up the market

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>379828934
Wait™ for Vega which will be released Soon™

>>379827436
got a ryzen 1600 already

>>379827436
high temps keep me warm when it's cold
in fact, i'm going to open gta v right now on my i5 7600 powered pc because my hands are freezing

>>379828232
Can't even recommend 7700k for gaming, it's barely faster at that now, never mind the fact that games are already becoming more heavily-threaded and Ryzen's 6-core and 8-core iterations are guaranteed to stay viable much longer than the i7 line for that reason. And that's on top of the fact that the minor avg. framerate advantage (and min. framerate disadvantage) doesn't outweight the part where the i7 is completely outclassed in every other respect by Ryzen.

The Bentium is literally the only sensibly-priced CPU Intel has left, which makes sense as it sets the pricing standard Intel needs to bring to their entire product stack: i3 core/thread count at Pentium prices, i5 c/t at current i3 prices, i7 c/t at current i5 prices. If they don't do that for Coffee Lake, second-gen Ryzen will destroy them.

>>379828760
>March 25th
Call me again when they redo the tests with AGESA 1.0.0.6. Release day Bios tests are fake news at this point.

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BUY

INTEL

FAGGOTS

>>379829334
It's hardly minor when in some games the deltas can be up to 30 fps, which is incredibly important for 120/140hz gaming.

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>>379829453
Yea.. most people do. Go look at a speccy thread.

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>>379828556
FALLOUT 4 USES THE FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU DIE

>>379827436
how's those instructions per cycle treating you?

:)

>>379829368
>Call me again when they redo the tests with AGESA 1.0.0.6
>>379827742

>>379829497
And in some other games, it's the other way around. Check out Mafia 3 and Civ VI benchmarks, for example.

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>More cores is better for gam-

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>>379829836
>it's still 2012

>>379829836
lmfao

>>379829836
not now but later :)
how about stuttering ?

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>>379828620

Wew, the buyer's remorse with the Intel faggots is bigger than expected. They seem really upset they got tricked by shifty jews.

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>ITT

>>379829663
Am watching it. Don't speak Lenin. Don't know if the tests are done on AGESA 1.0.0.6. If you speak Lenin, maybe you can tell me if he does that. Uses 2100mhz RAM, which is known that makes the RYZEN CPUs underperform significantly. And while the i7-7700 would gain from higher mem speeds, it's nowhere near the gains RYZEN sees. No sign of Civ VI in the benches, nor MAFIA III. Still a fairer benchmark than most other I've watched.

>>379827695
1700 easily, 7700k even has heating issues, plus even if you'd get 5% maximum gaming performance, you get >50% performance in heavily threaded tasks, plus futureproof, intel will just burn up when the TIM goes to shit after time

>>379830547
They only managed to run RAM @2933mhz but difference between it and 3200 is not really significant.

>>379827714
>amd actually releasing a competitive CPU for once

actually kind of proud of them. didn't think I'd ever see the day where I can honestly recommend an AMD CPU to someone

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>>379830412
Intel are je- >>379830626

Really makes me think

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>>379827714
These graphs REALLY need a price on every entry

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>>379830105
>later

Yea when phone gaming takes over.

>>379830839
6950x is 1600 dollars

>>379827436
Shoo intel Kike

>>379827436
I have.

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>>379830742
Yea. Almost as good as my 4 year old i7 CPU

>>379830894
And the first ryzen entry?

>>379827714
Now this is in leaf dollars, but an 1800x costs more than $150 more. It fucking better perform better.

>>379831026
like 600 senpai

>>379830894
460 usd

r7 1800x has 8 cores

6950 has 10

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Weird how nobody ever mentions the i5 anymore

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>>379831273

directed at >>379831026

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>>379831219
Kek

but i already switched to an R5 1600 from FX6350

>>379827832
Ubisoft games are designed with 6 physical core in mind because that's what's available on consoles. To get best performance on PC you should have at least 6 cores as well.

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>>379831353
More kek

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>>379831353

>>379831273
I have a question.

My 6 year old 2600k runs GTA 5 at 60FPS.
What are the are the points of those benchmarks?

>>379831332
Yes.

But games don't use more than 4 cores. So you don't need more than 4 cores.

But you can't have less than 4 physical cores, even 2 cores with hyperthreading isn't enough, 4 cores is the minimum.

But Ryzen 3 won't be enough with its 4 cores, get an i7 because it will be more future-proof because of all its threads, you should get a CPU that will last you a while.

But don't get a Ryzen 5 or 7 because games don't use all those threads, and why would you worry about what your components will perform like tomorrow?

>>379830695
>They only managed to run RAM @2933mhz
Didn't even see that they did. I noticed the 2100Mhz at first. 2600Mhz to 3600Mhz ram is a 25-33% bump for Ryzen, though, while the i7-7700 only gains something like a 12% bump maximum? Props for banching the 1600x, though, because it's the best gaming RYZEN CPU. Still, the 1700 non-X Ryzen would be my prefered CPU.

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>>379827714
To be honest, unless you're rich you don't care about the benchmarks unless there's a price attatched

>>379831793
>Didn't even see that they did.
How the fuck you didn't see it? Do you even know how to read the rivatuner osd?

I still can't justify a new build yet, despite my shit-tier case and still using an HDD as a boot drive.

Because I bought my 6600k & Z170 board on sale. (Prices are AUD) MSI Z170 Krait for $120, and 6600k for $210.
For reference, that board is about double that on retail, and the CPU is about $330 or so.

>>379830105
How about you being unable to drive 144hz monitors?

>>379831973
And I wouldn't blame you. When I was pisspoor, I didn't upgrade for ages even though I complained a lot.

>>379831660

You will get better performance on higher settings and lower minimum framerates.

You probably have moments where your fps drops to 50 if not the high 40s for a moment. Intel CPUs have a stuttering problem. You will notice higher minimum framerates on AMD CPUs meaning few random sub 60 fps dips.

>>379831789
The i5 range certainly has been pretty much invalidated by the existence of ryzen
4 cores/4 threads or 6 cores and 12 threads for a similar price, gee I dunno

>>379831789
This. This is the kind of reasoning I get from Intelfags. Which just translates to "just buy the i7-7700k, you don't need any other CPU".

>>379831929
Alright, bro, I'll go back and see it, No need to explode. Doesn't change anything else I've said, though.

I aint upgrading cpu. If it was as simple a switching chips cool but a new motherboard and os yeah fuck that im good with 3rd gen i5 for at least another couple years

I'll buy a 7820x just to shit on your ryzen "performance" you faggots, I've had it with your crap, not only this board's but reddit's as well, even linus the shill is against Intel's new processors, as if Ryzen had been any good, just look at its IPC, it's shit, it's only useful for multithreaded software and that's until we get the new CPUs, after that, AMD will go back into the trash where they belong.

AMD Vega will be the same, hyped and dead by the end of the year.

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>>379832234
>Paying for your OS

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>>379832323

>>379832323
If you think the 7820X is right for you, then I hope you are really happy with your purchase

>>379832389
How about to piss off back to /g/? fucking pooinloo

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>>379832323

>>379832429
What I don't like is that it's a little bit more expensive than the 1800x but Intel's current IPC and the amount of threads they offer me with this cpu will make encoding finish in the blink of an eye (probably 20 mins per 1080p 24mbps 2h video)

>>379832035
Can't argue with that.

I have the i7-4770, don't feel the need to upgrade for a few more years

>>379832234
>new motherboard and OS
>implying the HDD isn't what keeps your data

intel shill so damage control
can you just admit amd come back
it's good for the consumer
don't understand fags defend compagny so much

>>379832234
>new OS
????

>>379832534
>1800X
The 1700 offers 95% of the performance for $329 as long as you're not a retard who can't overclock. Hell, there are even individual 1700's that can overclock better than some 1800X's.

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>>379832323
Somebody's thinking with their feelings and not accepting hard facts. I understand though. Having been content with something and then getting mad for something doing better that what you're used to is human nature. Just look at old people and their relationship with computers

>>379832534
Is it out yet? Any benches?

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>>379832323
Enjoy your mayo

>>379832579
You can't guarantee that windows works after hardware change

>>379832734
So? Just reinstall it.

>>379832658
> as long as you're not a retard who can't overclock
Oh right, so the price of your stupid ryzen plus a GOOD aftermarket solution and let's not forget that the ryzen processors are unstable as all hell.

Gee I bet you don't even know about ryzen's shitty AVX support.

>>379827436
>2 shekels have been transferred to your account

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>>379827516

>>379831793
Actually 1600 is the best since its cheaper and you can clock it to 1600x levels with the heatsink it comes with.

1600x does not come with a heatsink either.

Best bang for buck is 1600 if you know how to OC

R5 1600 ~€200
R5 1600X ~€220
R7 1700 ~€290

Which one? And what mainboard would you recommend?

Also prices have dropped pretty hard in the last month or so. Should I wait some more?

>>379832671
Go to hell, buddy, you can take your hard facts and shove them up your ass, Ryzen is an underperforming piece of shit and the only thing it has going for itself is the number of cores it offers and the amount of computer illiterates like you hyping this shit beyond imagination

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>cheap
>no microstutter
>spare cores for multi-tasking/future proofing
is Ryzen /ourguy/?

>>379827436
I trusted AMD once in the mid 2000's and got burned hard. I don't love Intel but the shit always works as listed which is more than I can say for AMD/Radeon stuff.

>>379832838
if is just for gaming , i guess you right.
but if you do other stuf 1700 is better

>>379832534
Encoding scales well with multiple threads. Single core performance doesn't have exclusive advantage in this regard.

>>379832902
If you already have a compatible cooler get the 1600x, if not get the 1600.

A lot of people are recommending the 1600 with an OC but if you're not lucky you won't get near the 1600x clock speed.
1600 is still the best from a value perspective because of the included cooler.

>>379832789
He isn't defending intel.

>>379832902
in which country do you live for those price?

>>379832902
1700 overclocks to be just as good as a non-overclocked 1800x. Just get the cheapest motherboard that supports overclocking.

>>379832785
That is a lot of claims. Much has changed since Ryzen's release. And personally, I could do a lot better with a 1700, then a 1800X. What changes is the start line. Meanwhile, at INTEL

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/43583-don-t-overclock-intel-core-i7-7700k

>>379832838
1700 OC > stock 1800x
Best value for money.

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>>379832924
Don't be mad. Here, have a pacifier.

>>379832931

Is that a standard 6600k? They can overclock to 4.4ghz+ easily on air

>>379832838
>>379832948
>>379833067
Strictly speaking gaming of course, yes.

>>379833039
1800x overclocks around 230mhz higher than a 1700. Doesn't justify the price difference unless you have too much money.

>>379832924
It performs as well as Intel counterparts and has more headroom to offer. That's why Ryzen doesn't stutter unlike Intel with it's "2 cores is enough" mainstream target.

>>379832924
>underperfoming
>its IPC is shit (confusing Ryzen with Bulldozer?)
>Implying its FPS isnt in -5/+10 margins and far better minimums

Are you having a mental breakdown dude? Do you have buyer's remorse?

It's just a better product, that's all.

I've been saving up a lot (I've already got mah 12 ddr4 ram and gtx 660ti) Do i get fucking ryzen all memes aside? Which ryzen do I get??

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>>379827436
stop making this thread you nigger, amd burned my house down

>>379833114
Fair enough.

>>379832323
>even linus the shill is against Intel's new processors
(lol

Next year he'll be creaming his pants at the 18-core Skylake-X

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>>379832939
>the shit always works as listed
just because it's always been good for you doesn't mean they have a perfect track record.
I have never had an issue with my Intel chips either, that doesn't mean they're completely reliable.

>>379833145
Ryzen 1600 and 1700 are the best bang for your buck.
Yes, it's worth getting Ryzen because they perfrom the same if not better as equivalent Intel CPU's in gayman and have extra cores to boot with better minimum's.

>>379833036
Germany.

>>379833168
Show photos.

>>379833168
Well at least something was hot in your house

>>379833039
I'm aware of the 7700k issue and I'm not defending it, there's a reason I avoided getting it for my new build. I was going to build my new tower with a ryzen processor as I mainly use my computer for video editing, encoding, flash animation and programming, then homework and then at the very last place, gaming, but there's more to a CPU than you think, to me IPC is a higher priority than the amount of cores a processor can offer and this is why I'm waiting for Intel's kaby lake x or whatever their crap is called, I need an all around excellent performance and stability, something I doubt ryzen is going to deliver.

>>379833124
>1800x overclocks around 230mhz higher than a 1700
You mean the XFR. 1700 goes up to 3.6-3.7 boost from a base clock of 3.0Ghz, whereas the 1800X goes up to 3.9 from a base clock of 3.6Ghz. All R7 RYZEN CPUS have been reported to OC up to 4.1Ghz, with some very select 1800Xs going up to 4.2, all on air.

>>379833124
source?

>>379833309
>waiting for X
enjoy getting fucked over.
you should look up the bullshit Intel is pulling with their X series, motherboard manufacturers are jumping through hoops trying to deal with how many levels of feature sets they've arbitrarily made to reinforce their pricing scheme.
Ryzen would actually be better for you as a video editor than what Intel is going to provide, IPC is more important for gaming.

>>379833143
I haven't bought anything, I'm still using a 2600k and I've been waiting long enough for those two fucking companies to get their shit together and release something GOOD, current processors are crap.

As stated before, Ryzen is only "okay" because of its amount of cores and the hype surrounding it, and please, do not remind me of bulldozer, there's no need for that.

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>>379827436
Higher FPS is a good thing daily shill poster.

>>379832785
I have my 1700 OC'd to a stable 3.7ghz with the stock cooler. I can also get it to 3.9ghz too, keeping it lower to save power.

>>379833364
So high binned 1800x > high binned 1700, that's to be expected. Although none of that is really important when an i7 4790k can be overclocked to 7ghz on water and 8 on nitrogen.

>>379833509
>as long as the number in the corner is higher, it doesn't matter how much stuttering I get

>>379832323
>as if Ryzen had been any good, just look at its IPC, it's shit
Within spitting distance of Kaby Lake, not bad for the first generation of their new architecture on their first serious CPU release in 5 years.

When Coffee Lake comes out and Intel has finally been forced to lower the cost per core/thread, you can send AMD a thank-you card for putting out a competitive product and enabling you to finally get reasonable pricing with your preferred company.

Ryzen was pure hype

Suddenly AMDrones became content creators and enthusiasts

>>379833597
>he doesn't encode webms

shoo phoneposter

>>379833597
even if you use your machine purely for gaming, Ryzen was a good buy.
There is no reason to buy an i5 anymore.

>>379833569
>10-15% behind
>Within spitting distance
(lol

>>379833597
>play literally any game released after 2014 with my friends
>their 4core intlel cpu is at 100% all the time hear them complaining
>meanwhile my r5 1600 is at 30% so i can just run whatever the fuck i want in the background with zero stuters

feels good knowing they even have to close their browser to play some games without stuttering

>>379830970
A 1 year old i7 is as good as your 4 year old i7, anon.

The 7820X better shit on the 1800X or its Threadripper equivalent.

im waiting for vega and then ill make a whole ryzen build so back the fuck off

>>379833686
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>>379833559
That is a driver issue in 99% of cases since games are absolute shit for bench marking because each one is made by different monkeys

Not like you lil mobile shit posters care about games or tech anyway.

>>379833309
I'm trying to find some benches I remember reading, some R7 CPUs against some 8 core INTEL CPUs and AMD has everything beat, up to Broadwell, I think, in IPC. Kaby Lake, not so sure. Is there even an 8c Kaby Lake out? Or is that the 7820X?

>>379833804
Why is that my friend?

>>379833861
Not yet, anyhow, look up AVX performance.

>>379833861
Broiadwell vs Skylake (Kaby is just an OC'd Skylake) IPC difference is really marginal, like 3%

are there specific instructions on getting the 1700 AMD?

What is SMT? is it the latest and best one?

do I need a certain type of RAM?

Are they really the best or should I just go with Intel?

gonna pour all my money into a top of the line PC and hope I don't fuck up in the CPU area

>>379833548
I don't think I'll be going with water, so air-cooled 1700 would be great for me. But I think I'll wait for Zen2. By that time we'll have DDR5 ram, PCI-E 4.0 and 7nm architecture from AMD for Zen CPUs and the Naci GPU. Still a fair ways away. Might switch to something interim.

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>>379833880
>assets=liabilities
>b-but their stockholders equity!

>>379828019
>>379827742
Шизя, пpивeт.

>>379834053
get the highest speed ram possible

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>even intel shills like pic related have turned on intel
>/v/ still pretending like it's 2015

>>379834150
So DDR5 16-32Gb?

>>379834234
DDR4 - over 3ghz and over 32gb

>>379834197
>/v/
These are Intel shills that got bullied out of /g/.

>>379834075
Do you know anything about accounting?

Like at all?

>>379832939
Athlon 64's were great chips, Anon. Better than Intel's offering at the time.

>>379834064
>Naci
Navi*

>>379833861

ryzen's ipc is about the same as sky/kabylake when paired with fast ram around 3000mhz, and retrieve times around 14ns

sky/kaby lake has the advantage of being able to simply clock faster, well above 4ghz, where ryzen tops out at 4ghz usually.

ryzen has the advantage of sheer processing power in multithread, is a bit more power efficient, and therefore thermal efficient. AND a bit cheaper, so more bang for your buck.

if you're looking to build a new system soon, take whatever you can find with a better deal or sale, intel and amd cpu offerings are pretty similar.

if you want a gaming pc then an i5 will serve you well, and if u want to stream that game and maybe do some production an i7 is a nice choice too.

an ryzen 1700 and up is a bit overkill for just a gaming pc, and even then most games won't be able to utilize all 16 cores anyway, so the ryzen 1600 and such seems a bit more reasonable as you're basically getting a bit slower clocked i7 for a bit less of price.

>>379833569
>When Coffee Lake comes out and Intel has finally been forced to lower the cost per core/thread, you can send AMD a thank-you card for putting out a competitive product and enabling you to finally get reasonable pricing with your preferred company.
This.

Why are Intel fags so defensive? Ryzen is a good thing.

I will never understand why people exist who demand a company (in this case Intel) to fuck them in the ass. It's retarded. Same with console wars, Apple and so on...

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>>379834150
>he actually thinks RAM speed makes a difference

>>379833262
I can only trust my own experiences and those of people I know. In my admittedly limited experience I have owned one AMD processor and it was the worst computer I've owned. I've had two Radeon graphics cards and they were both awful. Friends and family have had similar experiences with the company.

In their slight favor, my dad did have one of their early 64 bit processors and it did work stably for years, but he mostly used it to browse porn and buy shit on Ebay, so it was never exactly bench-marked or pushed to it's limits with anything. Aside from that one time every other product of theirs has went awry in my personal experience and in those of people around me.

>>379827436
my 3770k still performs just good enough for anything i throw at it

>>379834675
It does these days actually.

>>379834064
I'm building now, my current PC is too trash to wait. I agree on air cooling. Just make sure that your fans are running low and quiet until things get hot instead of steadily increasing.

>>379834506
buying an i5 now is just asking for trouble.
not only will you need to buy a new MOBO if you upgrade again because the old socket is done, but you've still only got 4 cores which games are already using to their fullest.
You can get the r5 1600 for the same price or even less than an i5 6600k/7600k, it will perform as well now and it will be relevant for longer with it's 6 cores.
Most games you run now only use a fraction of its potential, so you get nice multitasking now and better gaming in the future.

The only place I can see that an i5 beats the r5 is in emulation since high IPC is important there more than ever.
If you're all about emulation, maybe get an i5 second hand and then save up to see how zen 2 or intels later products pan out.
The kaby lake x looks like a mess and everyone is calling them out for just throwing it together at the last minute.

So what's the budget cpu, has it come out yet?

>>379831789
Oy vey! 16 cores? What do you need 8 cores for? Nobody said anything about 4 cores, your games will run fine one 2 cores goyim

>>379834675
But Ryzen does see a difference, a huge difference, in fact. Depending on RAM speed, you can see significant benefits in gaming performance. Intel CPUs do too, but not to the degree of Ryzen CPUs.

>>379834710
Nowadays, all you will keep hearing is the AMD Smooth™ experience, compared to Intel's, which is why people call Intel CPUs stutterfests, even though frametimes are usually higher on RYZEN CPUs. So, since I don't own a RYZEN CPU, I can't tell you what it's all about.

>>379834710
People like you we call retards, statistics are more reliable than your anecdotal experience

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>>379832323

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>>379832323
Nice try shill.

>>379833309
At least wait for Threadripper before you jump on the i9 house fire train.

>>379835454
considering Intel is waiting for threadripper to even decide what their i9s are going to be, I'd say that's fair.

>>379835167
I don't doubt the usefulness of statistics but when it comes to consumer products this becomes murky due to companies lying and people having an inherent bias for other reasons and and your own experience does play a part in whether something will be a potentially good purchase or not. Acting like this isn't the case is just being obstinate. If all the people you knew told you a particular type of pizza tastes like shit and your own personal taste experience aligned with this, would "statistics" embolden you to go buy another slice?

>>379835454
How many lanes does 7820X support? 24?

>>379835046
Sorry but no. Maybe you'll get an extra 5, at most 10, fps but you're paying twice the price for the RAM. Better to allocate that to a faster processor in the first place.

>>379835454
Why is everyone trying so hard to talk this retard out of wasting his money? Personally I love the idea that some faggot literally let himself get memed into buying kikelake-x because he couldnt handle the anti-intel banter

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My i7 came delid thankfully.

CPU I had before this since 2010 was AMD Phenom II X4. It served me very well. Great CPU.

>>379835859
28.

>>379835859
28
Segmenting PCIe lanes the way intel has done seems like pure greed given that threadripper will have 64 as standard on the entire range

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>>379835515
Reminder that Intel's Ringbus has horrible scaling when there are more than 8 cores.
>>379835859
48 PCIe max limit, but expected to be 44, don't expect more lanes/CPU until Intel moves away from Ringbus/P6 architecture
>>379835962
A fool and his money are easily parted

>>379836041
Sorry, 28/24 PCIe lanes

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>>379833464
The i9 series is so rushed not even Intel knows the specifications of their products, just imagine what the motherboard manufacturers are going through right now

>>379835869
>Maybe you'll get an extra 5, at most 10, fps but you're paying twice the price for the RAM
So you'll be getting 7700k performance in gaming, while paying the same amount of money and blowing everything up to a 6950X out of the water. Why is this bad?

>>379836308
Hoo boy, it's gonna be worse than X99 launch.

>>379836308
>intel 10-core ringbus
>$1000
Thank goodness Threadripper shits on this overpriced trash.

Good there is finally some real competition on the CPU market. Intel can't keep getting away with their ridiculous prices because they have maffia monopoly on CPUs.

>>379836308
>Dem memory speeds
>Dat PCI lane fragmentation
>Dem 3.6Ghz base clocks
The 7820X should drop that $100 Intel tax. If it did, it'd be a great perf/price CPU.

>>379837226
It's a housefire.

>>379837226
Oy vey

>>379837226
>6C/12T
>140W TDP
H O U S E F I R E S

>>379835583
>food analogy
You are indeed what we call a retard

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I'm still using an i5 4590 locked I got cheap with a GTX 1070.

You guys need to chill. You only need to worry about future tech when you need it.

As long as you can 60 fps any game on ultra, why bother keeping up with hardware? Yeah glance at it, but shitflinging and literal hardware wars is a waste of energy and time.

Whenever I need new hardware I look into it then and make the decision at that time.

>>379835454
Aren't those server CPUs?

>>379838254
>I don't care about tech
Okay, but some people do care.

>>379838254
Get the fuck out of here, normie

>>379838324
No, jewripper is HEDT. EPYC is AMD's server offering.

>>379838324
Nah

EYPC vs Xeon
Threadripper vs i7/i9X
Ryzen vs i3/i5/i7

>>379827516
They are? Guess I'm buying AMD next time.

>>379838254
wow anon you're so cool and level headed with interesting opinions i wish i could be such a radical centrist like you

7700k ($300 at Microcenter)

vs

1700X ($349 at Microcenter)

vs

2600k (old as fuck)

in DOOM, BF1, FO4, GoW4, GTAV, ME:A, Sniper Elite 4, The Division, TW3 and Watchdogs 2

conclusion is that 7700k shits all over 1700X in actual video games and 1700X is on par with 2600k, this also doesn't even take overclocks into account, more cores doesn't mean shit for videogames IRL

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/26/definitive_amd_ryzen_7_realworld_gaming_guide/1

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>>379828019
>it's another episode of buyers remorse

back into the oven, shekelchaser

I really wish I could have waited for Threadripper, but I needed a PC now. Do you think Ryzen and Threadripper will use the same motherboards?

>>379828537
i take FAKE NEWS for 500, Alex.

>>379839085
No, Threadripper uses the same style of socket as epyc, which is fucking enormous.
However, since AMD isn't intel, if you get an AM4 motherboard now you will certainly be able to get an improved revision of zen later on.

>>379839063
Ryzen is shit, more news at 11!

The next Ryzen won't even come close to the 7700k and that's where Intel will be releasing Coffee Lake and Cannonlake.

>>379839063
>>379839508
nice try samefag

>>379839508
9 days left to shoah.

Fuck off to /g/

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>>379839069
>that picture
here anon, just for you

>>379839352
Good to hear, I already ordered my shit a week ago so I'm glad to know I'll be able to upgrade.

>>379839063
lol
>muh microstutter
>amd has lower framerates and mins across the board

>>379839085

Threadripper (and the i9s) arent made for gaymen anon, they are for high end workstation type applications and TR will be crazy expensive, a kajillion cores isnt going to help you in videogames

>>379839751
lol

>>379840901
2:1 data fabric mode may help with gaymen though.

Already did
No regrets
Performs great and stays nice and cool

>>379830742
The FX8300 and 8320e was pretty good after it dropped in price

>>379828556
>most modern games make good use of 6 cores
>a lot of new titles even use all 16 threads of my 1700

>>379832323
>just look at its IPC, it's shit
Difference in IPC between Ryzen and Kaby Lake is basically none

>>379839063
>more cores doesn't mean shit for videogames IRL
If all you play are games from 2008, yes

>>379833186
>LINUS IS AN INTEL SHILL
>had like dozens of "sponsored by AMD" videos on his channel
>gets EXCLUSIVE shit from AMD, not just review copies and pretty packages for reviewers
>meets with Raja several times for interviews
>nah, he's intel shill alright

I have a i5 6600k, should I switch over to Ryzen?

>>379842146
No, wait for 7nm Zen2.

>>379841875
>benchmarks across the board from Warhammer and Civ to W3/GTAV/WD2 show 7700k wins most of the time, if not all of the time
>even in Ashes, the benchmark game for AMD
>t-t-t-these d-d-don't count
HAHAHAHAHAHA, fuck off retard

>>379842163

When's that coming out?

>>379842321
Q1 2019, according to GloFo's roadmap.

>>379842287
>day1 becnarks from (((HardOCP)))
You tried, schlomo. In 9 days, the shoah comes.

>>379829641
>fallout 4
lol

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as an intel guy i dont really think this is cores for alarm

>>379843205
kek

>>379827436
I did from i72600 to 1600x, I didn't think there was any life left in my 390, apparently it's very strong even now

>>379842648
What exactly happens in 9 days?

>>379843561
Shoah.

>>379843639
Why 9 days?

eh, don't see the reason i should upgrade from my [email protected] and gtx 1070 to anything at all. runs all games just fine no issues. will last me a good few years yet. i'll upgrade in 2020 to whatever the x70 nvidia gpu is and whatever the best cpu is at the time.

>>379843814
EPYC is officially released on 20th of June, along with NDA lift on 7+1 contractors and OEM racks.

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>>379827436
Let's say I want to do 3D modelling and play games, which one should I get? I'm leaning towards the 1600x

>>379844025
1700 is your best bet.

>>379844025
3d modeling does not require more cores. Rendering might, if you use raytracing and plan on doing animations

>>379844025
1600x is better for games
1700 better for modeling

both can do 60 fps with anything though

>>379827436
I'd have to buy a new motherboard too. Even though it's ancient, my athlon II still runs every game I've been throwing at it.