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>Persona 5 compared to this Jesus, 3 blows it out of

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>Persona 5 compared to this
Jesus, 3 blows it out of the fucking water.
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>>379774318
>psh nothin perssonnel kids
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Shame that the gameplay is so much worse in 3
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>>379774318

>game that ends with you taking a nap
>good

Wasted buildup tbqh
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>>379774318
3 is fucking garbage compared to 5 in every single way
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>>379774786
>He didn't played The Answer
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>p3 babies this desperate that their game is proved to be the shittiest in the series again
just end yourself already
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>its a people who only played half the series debate the series episode
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Are p3fags the ff7fags of persona?
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>>379775440
1 & 2 are so different from everything that came after that they might as well be treates as a different spin-off.
Raidou and Soul Hackers are both called Devil Summoner and you don't see anyone comparing them.
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>>379775497
More like ff8fags
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persona 3
>fighting against the end of the world
persona 4
>fighting against televisions
persona 5
>fighting against evil adults
hmm......
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>>379775946
but ff8fags mostly keep to themselves and don't shit up every ff thread by yelling that their game is the best thing since sliced bread
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>>379774318
/thread

Don't get me wrong, P5 was really good and I enjoyed it a lot, but P3 is still the best
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>>379776095
epic xd
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>>379774318
the entire persona series is autistic garbage
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>>379775878

Is that Act Zero Bomberman?
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Persona 2 and even Persona 1 is better
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>>379775878
This. P1 and P2 are still very much SMT games. P3 is where Persona started forming its own identity to the point where considering 1+2 and 3 onwards as part of the same series is a bit absurd
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>>379776095
persona 3
>fighting against drowsiness and apathy
persona 4
>riding scooters
persona 5
>brainwashing corrupted people into turning themselves in
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>>379774318
>80% of battle is waiting for other people to take their turns
Boring, the game's enough of a VN as is
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>>379775497
They literally are. There's nothing present in P3 that in my opinion wasn't improved completely in later entries.
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>>379775497
It works too well
>A series that was misnumbered with unreleased game(s)
>emo looking protag
>fanboys gnash and wail if you think any other game in the series is, god forbid, better than it
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>>379776412
P5 is more like
>being force to brainwash people otherwise you're fucked

P5 fucked up, you never really felt you was in control of things and just doing shit out of self defence
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>>379774318

Look, P3 is my sentimental favorite too, but there's no way I'm going to delude myself or anyone else that its 260+ floors of little square rooms with essentially the same fucking music/visuals are more fun than P5's crafted and varied dungeons. The only thing P3 absolutely has over any of the other games is its story, and even then that doesn't pick up until, like, November in-game.

>inb4 P1 or P2fags pretending anything is worth mentioning about those games.
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>>379777076
except when you pulled the reverse ruse
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>>379776290
Why do people hail 1 and 2 so high anyway?
Both are rather dull dungeon crawlers with pretty standard story.
Am I missing something or is it some contrarian taste that exists only to get (yous) from die-hard purseowners?
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>>379774318
>MFW I will never be as stylish nor wise and self-controlled as Makoto
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>>379777278
nobody played them so people think they're unique for playing them
like demon's souls
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>>379777328
>emo the edgehog
>stylish
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>>379777076
Are you seriously complaining about deadlines having any sense of urgency to them?
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>>379777278
p2 had best boy and that's all I need
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>>379777254
That was out of self defense.... they had to do that in order to survive because they themselves fucked up for letting him have evidence on them and had to find some way to retaliate.
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>>379774786
I've seen dozens of comments from back before FES or even after it of people legitimately thinking he's just tired

How the fuck did so many people not get it
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>>379774318
Persona 3 is a bad game. The only people who think it's better than 5 are people who never got past their Linkin Park phase.
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>>379777278
>p2
>Standard story

Are you baiting anon?
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>>379777431
Dude could have girls in a range starting from a nigger fatass beta slacker to goddess Mitsuru while STILL being emo the edgehog
Is definitely stylish
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>>379777604
>How the fuck did so many people not get it
I didn't get it at first either, IIRC they just mention you being tired, you lie down on Aegis and then the credits roll.
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Persona 1, 2 and 3 all have bad gameplay but P1 and P2 games have far better stories than 3. 3 is the worst game in the series and among the worst Megami Tensei games period.
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>>379777506
>Are you seriously complaining about deadlines having any sense of urgency to them?

It gets real boring when it's the same old
>this guys is gonna do shit or has some shit on you so brainwash him b x day

Like yawn, i'm supposed to believed they're organised thieves who pick targets out of their free will but it ends up being they're forced to brainwash targets and everything is messy.
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>10 years later
>Still know every bit of Nyx's dialogue
>The moment man devoured the fruit of knowledge he sealed his fate, entrusting his future to the cards man clings to a dim hope
>Beyond the beaten path lies the absolute end. It matters not who you are, death awaits you.
>LET US FINISH CHILDREN OF MEN, TO LIVE IS TO DIE, YOU CANNOT DEFY ME
>Rock opera song's vocals start kicking in

Everything about Persona 3's final boss is just kino. The most kino moment in video games JRPGs.
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>>379777278
Because they're actual RPGs and not VNs with watered down smt gameplay
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>>379777774
No. I don't see how the quality of writing is any different from your average megaten game. People shit on newer ones while pretending that older were fucking masterpieces when in reality it's always been perfectly average and stays that way.
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>>379778108
>LET US FINISH CHILDREN OF MEN, TO LIVE IS TO DIE, YOU CANNOT DEFY ME

Could've sword he just said "Let us finish this, it is the path of your choosing."
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>>379777816
that's called having a huge dong and being a protagonist in a weeb game. has nothing to do with personality and charisma (of which he has none) or taste in clothes (of which he also has none)
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>>379777278
They are old and few people played them so you get massive hipster points for liking them. It's like saying SMT1 is your favourite SMT game.
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P5 > P3 > P2s > P4 > P1

Were P3 to be given a proper redux instead of a gimped PSP port for tactic-less casuals, it'd be the best overall.
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>>379777898
the ENTIRE game is one big exposition about people dying and those they leave behind learning to cope, the final boss is Death incarnate and you housed its avatar inside your body for 10 years, you sacrifice all of your hp to cast the great seal, every social link you talk to before the end of the game keeps talking about how you look like you're in terrible condition, you're incapable of mustering the energy to do anything for a month straight with constant text popups about how you have no energy, and when you're lying in Aigis' lap at the end she starts crying talking about you giving everything you had for the team

I personally felt like the game beats you over the head with the fact that you're sacrificing yourself and that's also not counting stuff like Messiah
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>>379778297
Nyx Avatar triggers an extra quote when he starts using Moonlight Gown IIRC. It's the one time where you can tell in his voice he's actually troubled by SEES's ability to fight back against the impossible.
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>>379777076
The world was fucking ending in P3 you moron.
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>>379775497
It's hilarious how fucking delusional they are. I remember arguing with p3fags who unironically believed that Tartarus was better than Palaces.
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>>379778429
Oh that one. Still wrong though.

"You cannot avoid death, to live is to die; to live is to die, they are one in the same..."
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>>379778338
SMT 1 is my favorite SMT game though
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>>379778354
P2 and p5 best
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>>379776582
Best girl hasn't been topped yet
I also like the plot anyway, it cannot be outdone IMO, and trying to imitate it would just be shallow so I'm okay with later games not being as good in that department
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>>379776095
>you fight against the end of the world so the story is automatically better guys X)))
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>>379774318
>3 blows it (Persona 5) out of the fucking water.

Said no one ever.
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>>379778973
literally this
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>>379778894
It aged poorly, though.
The gameplay is too much of a chore which is a shame because the story in 1, 2 and if is something more people should experience.
I was really hyped for a 3DS remake until they revealed it's fucking SJ again.
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>>379778894
Why? I just finished it recently and was pretty underwhelmed. It's fine, but to say I'm curious what could make it your favorite.
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>>379778338
But SMT2 is my favorite.
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>>379774318
>a literally who is the final boss
Give me Philemon or give me death
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>>379779382
>nyx
>literally who
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>>379779064
Every Persona game does this. EVERY one.

In P2 it actually gets destroyed.
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>>379779254
>It aged
stopped reading there
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>>379778354
Unless said redux drastically altered and/or remade MC's social links, those will always hold P3 lower than P5.
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>>379779382
>or give me death
7/10 joke, but it made me chuckle
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>>379779638
P5's social links were worse
>Oh no, x evil person is ruining my life!!!! HELP!
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>>379779064
>expecting p3tards to have good taste
you only have yourself to blame
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>>379777278
They're pretty solid. Their gameplay outside of combat is actually better than 3-5, but it's not like the combat is even bad then, just an older formula. Their stories also don't follow the new anime style, which I don't know how to properly refer to, but if you played 1 of either category then I hope you understand.
They appeal to a completely different crowd, but naturally there's crossover with how many people will play both eras simply for the namesake. Some people will just prefer one to the other, but it's to be expected that the newer ones would be more popular with the way they're designed.
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>>379775440
Persona starts with 3
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>>379779489
>making a run of the mill demon from SMT the final boss
persona-baby detected
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>>379779489
Just because it's a known deity doesn't make its involvement in the plot any more meaningful than being that evil looming thing that wants everyone dead.
Just like Yaldabaoth means literally nothing when its name is dropped at the end of P5.
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>>379776095
>there were no end-of-the-world scenarios in p4 and p5
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Sometimes I get rid of any priestess personas I have just to get to spend more time with Fuuka until the next rank up.
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>>379780065
>Play Persona 3 FES first
>Immediately play SMT3 Nocturne
>See Nyx 2 hours into the game as a bartender
>IMMEDIATELY STOP AND SAVE
>She never does anything evil

Really scared me for the whole game regardless.
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P3 also has the best social link in the series.
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>>379780189
>She never does anything evil
You never actually played P3 if this bothered you
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>>379779778
Even though P5 got repetitive with the progression of having to solve their problem through Mementos for almost every SL, at least the individuals or their arcs were generally interesting or good.

P3 had fuckers like this dude, who spent all ranks basically saying "I love older women", then rank 10 was suddenly "wow, you're such a good friend." I would say at least half of the P3 links were as boring and insubstantial.
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>>379778027
Organized thieves? They are fucking weak ass high school students who are most definitely not professional thieves my dude.
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>>379777278

They are great games
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>>379780065
All of the persona final bosses are random SMT demons
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>>379777278
>actually have to perform gameplay to progress link

Immediately makes it a step up
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>>379774318
p3 explores a topic that affects everyone (death) and nearly every single element of the game's main story, characters, and design reinforces this theme. it's not my favorite game ever, it drags a bit at times and that holds it back a bit, but fuck if it isn't top ten material.
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>>379780220
Also the worst social link.
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THE LAST ACE IN A LOST HAND
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>>379780415
I liked going into Mementos for the SLs because it made them feel a little bit more connected to the story.
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>>379780507
best social link
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>>379780669
>>379780507
wait the guy you responded to already said that, lol
well he's right, it is
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We can at least agree that P4 is the weakest of the three, right?
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>>379780558
DON'T ASK ME IF I'M READY, BUT I'M READY TO TAKE HIM DOWN NOW
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>>379780757
Had a better plot and gameplay then 3 but had worse social links and atmosphere.

Toss up
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>>379780705
Best social link.
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Question: if demons and shit invaded the world right now, would you rather be

1. a devil summoner (you have to convince demons yourself to work for you)
2. a persona user (can't choose your persona or use multiple ones)
3. an avatar tuner (can't choose your demon form)

keep in my you can't use magic as a summoner, and no you don't get a demonic parasite to become a demi-fiend


summoner for me, I would find a Pixie or Hua Po first thing
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I agree

5 was great until after the 2nd dungeon, after that it just shits the bed
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>>379776095
persona 6
> fighting against kids
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>>379780825
this gourmet king
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>>379780850
*keep in mind
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>>379780757
better gameplay and better main villain than p3 so no
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>>379780850
>keep in my you can't use magic as a summoner, and no you don't get a demonic parasite to become a demi-fiend

Flynn used magic just fine though.
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running throught the same exact level over and over again killed the game for me
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>>379774318
That screenshot contains the only thing better about 3 than 5, Nyx's design. Everything else is worse in 3.
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Without even touching the plot, P3 gameplay is by far the most annoying of the series.

Now if you put the plot into the mix P3 is your average 2000 era oversaturated edgy anime
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>>379781030
>Better main villain than P3
Have a pity (You).
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>>379774318
>persona 3 compared to this
Jesus, 2 blows it out of the water.
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>>379781168
Maybe if he weren't such an easy boss fight
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>>379780850
hang on, new comps allow magic usage
like devil survivor and SMT 4
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>>379780850
Persona user since I get my own custom made power
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>>379781050
>>379781095
I haven't played IV yet.
So RIP me I guess.
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>>379781168
Him and Itsuki are literally the worst human villain in the series though
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>>379781272
>Harder than Adachi though
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>>379781168
Literally fodder
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>Level 99
>Orpheus Telos
>Mostly best gear I can get
>Elizabeth can still one-round me
And everyone whined about the twins being hard
One of these days I'll finally beat her
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>>379780065
That isn't the point. If anything that doesn't make her a literally who provided you know who she is.

Fucking retard.
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>>379781398

Are you breaking the rules of the fight?
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>>379774786
This is probably one of the best finall bosses in rpgs.
There is nothing that can compare to it especially P5
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>>379780220
>>379780507
>>379780825

P3 only had 3 good social links: Sun, Devil, and Tower. Every other link was shit.
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>>379781437
literally who are you?

Fucking retard.
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The nyx fight, with the chorus vocals kicking in in her theme with her saying THE ARCANA IS THE MEANS BY WHICH ALL IS REVEALED is the moment that gave me the best goosebumps in vidya, no game has beaten it yet for me
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>>379780850
Devil summoner, of course. The more cyberpunky greebles, the better.
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>>379781494
>Every other link was shit.
Wrong, Hierophant was also good.
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>>379775878
Speaking of which, when will they ever localize devil summoner 1?
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>>379781168
>Strega
>good

No, they are a neat idea done in the worse possible way, take your nostalgia goggles

>>379781270

I wish the Reich arcana enemies could somehow appear again in Persona. The last Battalion is pretty much Atlus take on Wolfensteina nd it works so damn well.
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>>379781494
You forgot Justice!
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>>379781398
Liz is fairly easy if you know what you are doing
Now demi fiend from DDS is fucking bullshit of the highest caliber good fucking luck if you survive the first few rounds with out getting mudo'd of critted to death
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>>379781514
>literally who are you

I'm a gamer.
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>>379781548
did this guy win the Olympic
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>>379781520
>MFW "The moment man devoured the fruit of knowledge, he sealed his fate... Entrusting his future to the cards, man clings to a dim hope. Yes, the Arcana is the means by which all is revealed... Beyond the beaten path lies the absolute end. It matters not who you are... Death awaits you."

I don't even know what that means but it was hype.
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>>379781627
cringe
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>>379781617
He said good anon
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>>379781464
Nope. Her Thor just hits me that hard
I assume the Messiah armor would probably make this easier but I'm too lazy to get the money to do it
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>>379781168
>I was mistreated by some people so I will reluctantly be a minor nuisance to the people who try to prevent the end of the world
There was no rhyme or reason to his actions and he didn't even have any resolve to push forward. He literally ends up lying on the ground and hoping for Nyx to kill everyone.
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>>379776208
Indeed, those are ff6 fags anon
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>>379781747
>cringe

thatsthejoke.jpg
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>>379781767
Say that to my face and not online faggot
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>>379781780
how is that any different than adachi?
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>>379779254
the remakes improve on it significantly by making navigation better and rebalancing the game so that you can't just zio your way through every single encounter, too bad none of them were ever localized except for the ios version which nobody bought
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>>379777010
>A series that was misnumbered with unreleased game(s)
Pretty sure Persona 3 actually is the 3rd game in the series, Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment count as one game, and it wouldn't have mattered whether or not IS came to the west, it would have still been called Persona 3
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>>379780850
Persona desu, Hierophant so Im gucci, besides, im as strong and as resilient as my personae is right, Hiero personae are good stat wise, especialy the dragonball dragon so im fine as is, id just get a smg and go to town, convincing demons irl would be near imposible, theyd just kill you on sight and since magic is out of the way and I aoulsnt be good enough for STR is just get a personae to make me ultra beefed up and get a gun to go ham.
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>>379781617
I'll say that none of the female links in P3 were any good, because all of them were just purely waifubait. Sure, P4 or P5 were waifubait as well, but because you could reject them, there at least needed to be some semblance of development otherwise.
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Reminder that Nyaralthotep solos all of P3-5

https://streamable.com/7037d
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>>379778354
>not using superior edit

I want to fuck Akihiko
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>started the series with p3
>played p4
>now since no console, while rpcs3 is slowly starting to get Persona 5 playable, i'm going to emulate the living shit out of shin megami tensei and devil summoner games
Man, i wish i knew before that jrpgs are so goddamn fun, i'm unironically eager to get my ass kicked by matador
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>>379774318
That is one of the worst final bosses in a jrpg ever. It's a boring easy 45 minute fight. It's garbage.
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Alright personagas, which finales were better, Makoto's teamates shouting their desires to help you with even that person at the end, All of Yu's social links making him stand up again or the entire of Tokyo tweeting hopes of your victory?

Persona 3>Persona 5>Persona 4

I honestly felt nothing for Izanami or felt like the threat she posed was all that real
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>>379782075
Yukari is the opposite of waifubait though
Who'd want to romance that slut
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>>379781953
Adachi's knowingly pathetic and has no grandiose ambitions besides amorally killing people he doesn't like. The game doesn't try to justify him in any deeper respect cause his nihilistic lack of reasoning is the point.

Strega are a group of bad anime villains who are supposed to have motivations but are just written so poorly and conflictingly they just come off as incompetently evil.

Also Adachi's funny while Strega's not
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>>379782291
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>>379781575
Probably never unless it gets ported to a new system.
Besides, they don't seem to have much faith in retrp titles. They dropped localizing mobile ports halfway through and didn't even bother releasing the first one on android either.
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>>379782395
That didn't happen to me. It's just a boring shit fight.
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>>379782395
The salt charm is real
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>>379777560
Great taste.
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>>379782220
>>now since no console,

How poor do you have to be to not afford a PS3? The PS3 copy of Persona 5 is 10 dollars cheaper too than the PS4 version. Consider saving 80 bucks for a used PS3 and 40 for Persona 5. You can get even the 12GB PS3, Persona 5 only needs a 5GB install.
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>>379780850
>anyone that frequents /v/ thinking their persona would be strong
Lol you gotta have friends and a strength of spirit/mind.
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>>379782334
>mfw Shinji's ALRIGHT, LET'S DO THIS
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Adachi is deeper than anyone presented in P3 or P5.
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>>379778262
I thought you weren't allowed to draw muhammand
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>>379782489
How he's doing on his P5 play through?
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>>379782570
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>>379782075
Were they really? It feels like you never get close with any of time except maybe Mitsuru
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>>379782652
He's not wrong anon

: ')
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>have to kill the boss like 12 times
>never need to change strategy
>just defend when super big attack happens, which the game literally tells you is going to happen
WOW. AMAZING GAMEPLAY.

Persona 3 is an ever bigger waste of time than Dragon Quest 7.
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>>379782647
Last I heard he was at futaba's palace with over 150 hours played.
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>>379782634
that's genghis khan
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>>379782570
this but unironically
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>>379782546
i'm a slav and shit's way more pricey here, with our wages being way lower.
I'll just say that for example to buy a ps4 500gb i'd have to spend 3/4 of my monthly salary.
Can't afford that shit man, even a used PS3 is too much atm
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>>379780901
Persona 7
>Saving christmas
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>>379782334
>I honestly felt nothing for Izanami or felt like the threat she posed was all that real

100% P3, followed by P5, and deep at the bottom of nowhere is P4. Hated the skeleton lady, hated the P4 final track, and hated her reasoning for doing anything in P4. Really bad villain for P4, the Holy Grail at least was thematically tied with hearts/desire.

I'll give P4 a shout out for teammates taking deathblows in a scripted sequence, but I think the SMT3 reskinned 70s party ball and Adachi shitshow were better than Inazami-Cucked-No-Kami.

Unrelated, Empress bros represent. Mitsuru in P3 and Haru in P5.
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>>379782801
>150 hours
what the fuck, how? I spent a shitload of time fucking around with fusions and shit and I'm pretty sure there were a couple of times where I just fell asleep with the game on, and I finished at 100 hours. What was he even doing?
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>>379782547
Then explain the fat kid in Persona 1
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>>379782142

You gotta love how you can sum up IS plot as Nartty and Philly saying "ITS JUST A PRANK BRO CHILL" while they just fuck with humanity hell and back.

Also Jun is the best boi
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Lets be frank, Adachi really was the only reason Persona ever became as popular as it did. P3 did well but the popularity didn't explode until P4 whose only saving grace was Adachi.
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>>379782867
He's Chinese.
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>>379782730
No
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>>379782546
>>379782892
Also i'd have to get an actual TV that can support HDMI stuff, ever since i moved out i've had a shitty, rather old TV without HDMI support.
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>>379783018
>until P4 whose only saving grace was Adachi.
This is P4's only saving grace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YakB521z-sg
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>>379782967
proximity to the main character
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>>379782936
But Fog was better than Jaldaboaths generic theme
https://youtu.be/Qr61qXnOQMc
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>>379782730
You'd be surprised on the amount of shitty gay doujins it has on how deep he is.
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>>379774318
T A R T A R U S
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>no other persona game has delicious brown gf with dick sucking líos
Fucking racist japs
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I really liked the last month of P3, when everyone knows the apocalypse is coming and that we have basically no chance of stopping it but all we can do is sit around waiting and everybody's on edge.
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>>379780850
Devil Summoner is the way to go. Only homos would choose to be an Avatar Tuner.
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>>379782334
4 literaly did nothing to me. Instead of having amaiong jrpg withdrawl I had the why the fuck did I just spend 60 hours on thid piece of garbage bad trip, the only time I really had fun was with my siegfried, my trunpeteer and with a rather mediocre thor, the breach the fog of lies shit felt so underwhelming, so fucking pathetically meaningless that I just couldnt give half a shit, at all.

I didnt care about yusuke, chie, yukiko, naoto, musclehead, teddy or guiderslut. Literaly didnt care, fought that mediocre as shit boss fight, used the snowflake item, reached out to the truth, game ended with the most meaningless as possible "im going away now, see you guys" scene since you can literaly go back to inaba, at any time, by getting on a train.

The fuck was p4 now that we all think about it. What the fuck was up with the most stupid shit possible, the gas atendant is a literal god that gave personas to people for shits and giggles, ameno just poofs out of nowhere, the main vilain barely did anything, the other guy was just a politician that shoved people in tvs, the personalities of the actual cast were dogshit, the ost was largely garbo, what happened? I just dont get it.
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>>379783204
Not the final boss theme dumb Adachi poster, P4's final boss theme is the most boring track I've ever heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvCiypHk6RI
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>>379783241
>make Haru's character model and conversation portrait ugly as fuck
>but make her AoA portrait cute as hell
Why did they do this?
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>>379783338
*Yosuke
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I think that P3 looks pretty grimdark and edgy to my taste. I mean Persona 2 is dark but instead of edgy is surreal. I think both games are great except for the combat which is pretty sluggish in both games for the most part.
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>>379778354
I MISSED HER QUEST TO TAKE HER OUT TO THE MALL. AM I FUCKED?
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>>379774318
Nyx was pretty cool, it's too bad everything before Nyx is introduced is hot garbage in the plot department.

P5's final boss was alright, much better than Izanami, not quite as good as Nyx, but the rest of the game not being trash like P3 and 4 made up for that.
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>>379775497
If anything p5fags are the ff7fags of the series.
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>>379783429
Do what, she has the best in game character model.
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>>379783429
Just like making Yukari's portrait and model garbage, while making her qt in the cutscenes and in the anime.
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>>379783585
That fucking forehead. I don't know what idiot decided that her victory animation should be removing her hat and bowing, it makes her fivehead look even more freakish.
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>>379774318
I fucking loved P3 too, but 5 really does beat it in every way. I know it sucks that the series is popular now, but we're just going to have to deal with the normalshits and hope they don't actually influence the series.
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>>379783639
It also makes her hair longer in animated cutscenes.
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>>379783326
Says the person who posts The Gayest Devil Summoner.
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>>379783253
>/fit/ girl that likes to eat and talks about having kids with you some day

She's too good to exist in real life.
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>>379783639
Too bad they never made her personality at as well
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>>379783204
That's not the final boss theme of Persona 4. What you posted would be the equivalent of Rivers in a Dry Land. What you meant to say was Genesis. Final tracks in battles you can actually lose.

P3: Battle for Everyone's Soul (you can't lose while fighting Nyx's core so that intro remix wouldn't count)
P4: Genesis (Izanami last phase)
P5: Yaldy theme

You probably forgot how shitty the Genesis was in P4. P5 was generic but it literally takes 6 minutes for Genesis to get good for roughly 10 seconds in P4.
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>>379783748
and that lipstick man, that fucking lipstick
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>>379783748
They did the same thing with Chie in the anime. In the game it looks like she has a fucking bowl cut but in the anime her hair is just a tiny bit longer and it makes all the difference.
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>>379783384
Are you retarded, Izanami has two theme songs. Genesis plays for the second half of the fight.
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>>379783471
Phone posting at about 2 am anon, sorry bout that.
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>>379781635
no he moved away to work in a factory to support his mom and sister iirc
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>>379783854
I'm not strictly speaking of the anime, but rather the in-game animated cutscenes, but yes the P4 Anime did lengthen her hair a tiny bit. Her P4G epilogue hair also makes me rock hard.
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https://youtu.be/4TeT1WwPR0U
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>>379783935
Then by that logic Rivers in the Desert is P5's final boss theme if you're just going to ignore the second phase's music.
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>>379783338
>game ended with the most meaningless as possible "im going away now, see you guys" scene since you can literaly go back to inaba, at any time, by getting on a train.
That was horrible and the worst part was the main cast reaction,calling them a bunch of dicksuckers is not enough
Fuck whoever defends them
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>>379783559
HALP
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>>379783326
Hey, I remember this guy from a Cinematech video, he did a cool backflip and some generic j pop song came on as he beat up some demons or something, so he was a Shin megumi tensei character, thanks, anon, I've always wondered who that guy was. It's like when I learned what NamcoXCapcom was
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>>379774318
P3 has the best final boss fight and ending imo. Everything was just so perfect.
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>>379784059
explain
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>>379783818
No, The Almighty would be the equivalent of Rivers in a Desert or even New World Fool.

The Fog and Genesis are the final theme songs. Izanami has two.
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>>379784018
epilogue chie is objectively p4 best girl
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>>379784123
It didn't even end that way anon. Golden Epilogue he goes back to meet them again and it ends. This is after those spin offs. (except DAN)
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Could he beat a Margaret that wasn't holding back? Remember that Margeret is stronger then Liz not accounting for any friendship power Liz has build up since we last saw her.
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>>379784159
Huh, I didn't want to post that one.
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>>379784159
>played P3P before really knowing what Persona was
>didn't even realize the game "really" had anime cutscenes until a few years later
>watched them all on youtube
>actually preferred the P3P version since they used in-game mechanics instead of switching to a whole new style
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>>379784123
>>379783338
Yeah, it was hard feeling sad when you know Yu was just a train ride away from Inaba.

Then Arena came out and revealed he literally came back not even a month later like what the fuck?
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>>379782334
I felt like 3's final attack was better overall, while 5 had the better power of friendship moments, especially when it shows them helping you even after beating the final boss
I really appreciated 5 having the social links be useful accomplices instead of random douchebags
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>>379784513
The FMVs look like shit so you aren't missing out on anything.
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>>379784557
>Arena
>Canon
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>>379784173
Hentai
https://youtu.be/NPTIUxbgIBE
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>have a ps4
>still have to emulate persona 5 because can't let people see me playing it
fuckin hell
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>>379784623
anon.....
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>>379784591
>I really appreciated 5 having the social links be useful accomplices instead of random douchebags
Yeah that's probably the reason most of them were adults, highschool kids aren't all that useful unless they're Mishima.
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>>379784591
Ah yes, him becoming a door is the best final attack in all of purseowner.

leave door kun to me
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>>379784456
I think any mainline SMT protagonist woudl have a good chance of beating a Velvet Room attendant. Not to understate the strength of the attendants, but Flynn did fight Lucifer, YHVH and Steven and even though he didn't fight them all by himself, I think it's enough to say he'd have a good chance of beating Margaret or Elizabeth.
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>>379784627
shit, now i'm eager to mod P3FES and replace all of her All-Out Attack lines with that
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>>379784725
Mishima is the most important of all them too, he's the reason Joker can summon Satanael in the first place.

>TFW the Phansite reached 100%
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>>379784650
Can't you just remote play
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>>379784650
You know, there's an option to appear offline.
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>>379784805
I don't care about Door-kun, but P4 Protag didn't even do anything. His final attack was literally meaningless because if he didn't convince Izanami she'd still end the world anyways.
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>>379784591
I also like how the links in 5 help you in a more concrete manner rather than powering up your final attack
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>>379780429
Yeah so it was trash, code names kid nexts door fags were more professional.

If persona wants to be realistic then you can't be having characters like Futaba around
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Does YHVH and Luci exist in Personaverse?
I never played If... so I don't know how mainline became connected to Persona
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>>379784159
>junpei
I still cant get over how much he matured and how he became such a great character, both gameplay wise and in terms of writing/interaction, do 1 or 2 hsve any characters like him? Ive been meaning to play them, if they do that ought to be the boost I need to finaly go do that.
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>>379784805
Only thing that was good about him was having izanami's husband as a persona
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>>379784123
I liked that P5 left it a possibility that Potterkun just told his parents to fuck themselves and stayed in Tokyo
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>>379775387
Or.

Or.

They could just both be good games.
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>>379784874
I'm using Windows 7
>>379784942
I was talking about roommates actually, not online friends
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>>379785051

They've never been mentioned as far as I know. They are part of the Megaten universe so they might exist but aren't used.
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>>379785175
>P3
>Good game
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>>379785023
You seen that 999 remake for ps4? I was thinking of getting it since I haven't played it yet and people here seem to really like it.
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>>379784650
>thinking anyone gives a shit about what you play
What are you, 12?
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>>379784983
Chad BTFO Izanami with Myriad Truths so she said fuck this.

You can't be serious anon
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P5>P3>P4
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>>379784427
And none of them sport their epilogue looks because Atlus wanted them to be in their iconic looks so Naoto goes back to cross dressing, Kanji ditches his glasses for contact lens, Yukiko and Chie cut their hair along with Rise and Yosuke and Teddie got back to being vagina thirsty retards and Marie goes back to dressing like a Hot Topic reject, I'll never forgive that, Weather girl Maaire was hot as hell to me, especially with that sweet voice she had, then not only do they rip it away, she still makes the same don't gie a crap about shit voice in the golden anime, It's like Atlus did everything in their power to make sure Yu and his crew do not change ever. Also, Ultimax was an especially insulting game for the Persona 3 cast, How personas work as a whole and to what gods brought about by human thoughst should be as well as Adachi,he started out as an immature manchild pretend nihilistic to an actual nihilist who actually seemed to have matured a bit, Then dancing all night shit on every thing some more with Kanami seeing personas but not gaining one of her own
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>>379785082
Junpei was my favourite character in all of nu-Persona to be honest. He went from a douchebag dudebro into a mature and valuable friend setting a good example for the rest of the team.

Gaysuke and Ryuji were awful and felt like poor clones in comparison.
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>>379785208
ANON GET IT
NOW
NOT EVEN THAT OTHER ANON
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>>379774318
>Persona 3 compared to this
Jesus, 5 blows it out of the fucking water.
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>>379785207
I unironically liked the seemingly endless stairs.
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>>379785051
Persona takes place in the same timeline as Raidou, don't know if if... is in the same timeline. That means Lucifer's definitely around, so YHVH probably is too.
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How come P5 couldn't top this guy?
>Great character development
>Motives of his own and a life beyond MC
>Shiting on Yukari that one time after an entire game of being shat on
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>>379784867
But that random flower pants guy does the same thing if you don't max Mishima's confidant
He's the true hero
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>>379785289
>And none of them sport their epilogue looks because Atlus wanted them to be in their iconic looks
You do realize Arena and DAN are set before Golden epilogue, right? Golden's epilogue is currently set furthest in the Persona timeline.
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>>379785323
Fuck that good? Like really?
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>Futaba: refresh palace loot, chance to reveal entire mementos floor map, position hack and hands out buffs/sp/hp
>Haru: free sp items every few days
>Yusuke: skill card duplication
>Morgana: thief tool recipes and chance to get an item from a standard attack
>Makoto: shows what enemies drop, their skills and if they null/repel anything while targeting them
>Ryuji: insta kill underleveled enemies when ambushing
>Ann: lets you ask for less when negotiating for hostages

Why was Ann's unique ability the most useless?
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>>379785289
Just think of DAN as non canon and it'll be okay anon
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>>379785282

>Implying that wasn't the real Izanagi lending him his power.

Also

>Izanagi is too powerful to be around all the time, he can't be registered so he can only be used fully at the end of NG+ just for Margaret really.
>Even post P4 stuff, he can only be summoned when Yu is pushed to the limit.
>In Q, he earns the ability to just have him all the time.
>Q was stated to be canon.

It annoys me.
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>>379785207
>>379785352
Same, unironically prefered Tartarus. I have NO IDEA WHY. Persona 4 dungeons probably were much better than tatar sauce but they just didn't click with me at all.
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>>379785369
To be fair, he's the only decent character in P3.
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>>379785362
I thought If... was an alternate timeline that happened "if" Thor didn't drop the nukes in SMT 1, and then If... leads to Persona 1-2-3 etc.
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>>379785504
worst girl worst ability
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>>379785369
>Becomes a bum
>Dead end job as coach of a little league team
>Can't get over girl who died

He got fucked in Arena.
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>>379785414
>Unmaxed confidant link
>Canon
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>>379785504
Because you'll probably never see a hostage situation
I've only seen it happen twice in two playthroughs
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>>379784456
The only protag I can see having problems would be SMT1's protag. Aleph, Demi-Fiend, Flynn and Nanashi could solo everything in Persona.
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>YFW THEY RELEASED A GAMEPLAY TEASER OF THE NEW PERSONA 4 ARENA ULTIMAX GAME
fucking milking it AGAIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjoOhr8OT7w
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>>379785452
DAN is canonically set after the golden epilogue

Arena and Ultimax however are set before it.
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>>379774318
they are both incredibly shit. 5 just has better gameplay. how do you like this?
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>>379785535
Its called having shit taste anon
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>>379785516
Is DAN canon?

Why would Atlus make a spinoff game Canon anyways?
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>>379775207
good. The Answer is a waste of time and retroactively ruins p3
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>>379785729
I'd rather say it's called having fun
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>>379785778
Persona itself is a spinoff you dingus
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>>379785369
WHO'S DA MAN
>>379785462
It's the best anon, one of the greatest visual novel's ever imo, the sequels on the other hand....
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>>379785282
Literally wrong. Not even going to educate you.
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>>379785778
Their obsession with spinoffs being canon blocked Arcsys from making joke characters like Dojima with Nanako as persona.
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>>379785778
DAN is canon buddy
The OC MC can be seen along with Rise in P5 in the form of posters
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>>379785628
Arena literally ruined Stupei's entire character.
I am still mad.

>>379785830
Not an argument.
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>>379780850
Fuck that, show me the magatamas.
I want to live in a world of strength!
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I feel like I've seen this exact thread before.
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>>379785943
LOL
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>>379785830
So is SMT you mong.
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>>379774318
Im not one of those people that believe that 3 was perfect but I actually do agree that this was the best final boss fight
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>>379785873
(You can't)
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>>379785535
I'm convinced anyone who prefers Tartarus has mild Stockholm Syndrome.
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>>379785628
>thinking da man cares about being in a dead end job teaching kids

You dont get it do you anon, Junpei just wants to help and be a bro, I doubt he could find a much better job than to help kids and go do sports, he was never a smart guy that would get a high end job, he is happy being da man, helping folks, being the guy we all wish we could be while staying faithful to his girl, dead or bot, the guy remains loyal. You can try and make the going tough but the tough just get going, Junpei is too based to be fucked.
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>>379786000
nice trips

You actually want a demon parasite to burrow through your eyeball?
>yfw you become a Demi-Jack instead
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>>379786096
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>>379785462
999 is worth playing, though I don't know how they handled some unique stuff on PS4
Don't even bother with the sequels
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>>379785051
Thanks to Raidou XIV, demon summoning didn't become as rampant so the big guys haven't been summoned in from the Expanse yet
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>>379785568
I haven't played if... and I won't be until the translation is done, but people generally seem to think Raidou is in the same timeline as Persona. The plot of Raidou 1 supports the idea and the Kuzunoha Detective Agency appears in P2. There's just one thing about that doesn't add up to me but I may just be misremembering some details from the game. Though it's also possible that Raidou, If... and Persona all take place in the same timeline.
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>>379786000
You don't even need that, just form a contract with a powerful god like Dagda, you don't even need your phone to summon your demons and can't die as long as the contract is in effect.
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>>379786157
Makes one ponder.
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>>379786191
>>379786252

thanks senpaitachi
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>>379785504
>>Ann: lets you ask for less when negotiating for hostages
Why the fuck would you want less when you ask for a hostage, that's not how it works.
>>379785452
DAN isn't.
>>379785628
He's a magician, those guys constantly get fucked over by life and still accept it, Junpei is definitely going to die a virgin and maybe some kids will talk about how their little league coach give them some solid advice from time to time

Yosuke will eventually, in a desperate bid to have sex, fuck Teddie in the alice costume and swear him to secrecy, wind up with a useless degree and end up losing his Junes job to younger people

Ryuji at first will be okay, but then he'll realize he's absolutely useless for manual labor jobs due to his leg and he's too stupid for blue collar jobs leading him to become bitter and maybe homeless, will never lose his virginity because even if he gets a girl, his stupidity and bitterness will drive her away.

Junpei is the only one of these fuckers to have life, even if it's a completely small one
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>>379785362
>>379786252
No, not Raidou, Devil Summoner. As in the first two. Raidou's future hints that it's actually in the main timeline.
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>>379786130
That's not it anon, then i'd enjoy getting fucked. I just liked it more, the P4 dungeons felt like a drag and you had to repeat them with the optional boss so you don't have to grind for the next one, i didn't like some of the gimmicks like backtracking in naoto's dungeon either.
It's a simple opinion, i can see how tartarus is terrible but i'm just retarded i guess?
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>>379785529
How is Q canon if it undoes itself at the end?
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>>379786359
>Why the fuck would you want less when you ask for a hostage, that's not how it works.
No, you're trying to ask the demons to make smaller demands for the hostage they have.
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SMT Characters you'd like to see as Persona party members.

The thought of her possessing someone like Mitsuru, going inside an online clothing shop to play dress up, then popping back out with the clothes makes me laugh.
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>>379786359
Ryuji isn't a Magician.
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>>379785628
Yeah, Junpei's hit a dead end. He may be a hit with the kids he coaches and seen as cool, but he's going to grow old and die alone because he can't get over his dead waifu.
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Reminder that Chad got the best ending
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>>379786574
Yes he is.
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>>379786480

Atlus said it was and it ends with Elizabeth vaguely recalling the events as a dream that she thinks might not have been a dream. I imagine it's the same with Margeret in the P4 route.
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>>379786384
Nah you're not alone.

Tartarus was dogshit but I wasn't impressed by P4's dungeons either. The only thing they had over P3 was new coats of paint, but that doesn't change the fundamental problem with them.
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>>379786529
well the devil summoner games did happen in the persona universe
I am still bummed out at the soul hackers ending where she just disappears
She was sexy though
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>>379786157
wasn't Megami Tensei the original series until they made Shin Megami Tensei?
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>>379786374
When you say "Raidou's future" are you talking about Soul Hackers? I haven't played that yet, but it was Raidou XL's time traveling that gave the basis for the idea that Raidou and Persona are in the same universe. The only issue with that is that Raidou XIV stopped him but XL does mention that he still did enough to make an impact on the past, as I recall.
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>>379786480
It happened but no one remembers it so it might as well have not happened.
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>>379785637
>Hanging out with Mishima
>Canon
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>>379786480
That literally doesn't make it not canon, just irrelevant.
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>>379786651
Morgana was P5's Magician. Ryuji was a Chariot.
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>>379781662
the first part's obvious; god threw man out of eden for eating the forbidden fruit of knowledge, the only law he had made that man had to obey. this meant man could no longer eat of the tree of life and was doomed to a mortal life.

the next two are most likely heavily related to tarot, which is a recurring motif in p3. i know nothing about tarot past what i've picked up in p3 and a few vns here and there, but maybe i'll look into it a bit after this.

the next line is just dressed up a bit; "the path" is life and the "absolute end" is death. the last line is self-explanatory. both of these lines reinforce the central theme of the game, which is that death is unavoidable. the very first line of the game is a quote that basically says this, too.

i think most of this is self-explanatory, honestly. it's presented in a really entertaining way, though. more interesting to me was the exploration of how death affects various characters' lives; this is why the sun social link is so goddamn good, it fits perfectly and it's touching in a way that many of the other social links don't quite manage to be.
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>>379786743
So what you're saying anon.... is that they are better


Reminder that Elizabeth shit herself when Izanagi Okami showed up
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>>379786647
>Scoobydoo fanfic tier game that was handled as well as a newbord in a rugby match gets a good ending by virtue of said shit writing

Gee, you dont say.
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>>379782913
Persona 8
>we released a game
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>>379781662
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>>379786751
Nemissa is cute! Cute!! Cute!!!
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>>379784117
Are we all just ignoring Our Beginning?

I get it that wasn't a boss fight theme, but neither was Burn My Dream and people still seem to call it the "second phase" of p3's final boss theme.
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>>379787037
*tips fedora*
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>>379786647
>Sex with Margaret and Marie
I honestly don't think Yu would be the one in control there , it'd be femdom with Margaret making Marie and Yu screw each other while she watches, then makes them screw her with herself in the middle and them on the sides

I can't imagine Margaret not being HBC with Lavi,Theo,Liz and Marie all being kinda youngish and dumb
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>>379781662
Holy fuck this.
>Nyx goes on the pretentious rant about humans
>Orchestra and vocals kick in

The final fight was shit, but I didn't care because it was so fucking well done. P4 and P5 don't even come close for me.
https://youtu.be/EYdPy8da27s?t=87
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Are there any NPCs as fun as the reverse-stalking couple in P3?
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>>379787097
enjoy your no almighty
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>>379786919
Each time he changes arcanas he says something relevant to the arc of the social link I think.
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>>379786647
>no action
Anything's possible with a rebel's heart anon.
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>>379787006
Leave Door Cucks waifus to Chad
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>>379785346
He was a complete joke.
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>>379787209

That's the only reason I called Hitomi sexy. I wanted to say cute. Nemessia is sexy though.
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>>379786974
Yes, P4 dungeons were better but not by much so I don't care about the massive shitflinging for Tartarus. As far as I'm concerned P5 >>>> Shit > P4 > P3
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>>379786157
>>379786298
Fuck you and your memes,I just started DDS after beating Nocturne and I burst out laughing everytime he goes "I do not comprehend"
Make it stop pls
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>>379786743
The fundamental problem with Tartarus is that it goes on too long. P4 has less dungeons, bigger floors and more shit happening between them to break the monotony.
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>>379781139
The only thing 5 does better is gameplay and graphics, everything else is better in 3, especially the music.
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>>379787209
I will, thank you.
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>>379787356
Hey I just started playing DDS too.
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>>379787357
>bigger floors
That's not a good thing when there is nothing interesting or interactive about any of them aside from two floors in Mitsuo's dungeon.
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>>379787349
P1 has the worst dungeons. They are shit
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>Finish Persona 3 twice in less then a month.
>Lose motivation to play P5 during the final dungeon

Everything started going downhill after Shido.
The great plot twist was boring, killing another ebin god is boring, the build up to the final dungeon feels rushed and uninspired.
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>>379787356
He'll start to comprehend once he befriends Lupa, leader of the wolves.
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>>379784456
favourite protag design
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5>3>4

fight me
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>>379787357
>bigger floors
That's part of the problem considering they were all generic shit. Either make them custom designed like P5 or drop that shit.
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>>379786753
Wait you're actually right, what sense does this make.
>a spinoff of a spinoff that releases multiple different spinoffs from different spinoffs in the same spinoff series
What the fuck Atlus
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>>379787695
5>4>shit>3
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>>379787151
I don't even remember them, the only NPC I remember from 3 was the girl who wanted to fuck Mitsuru. 4 didn't have many memorable ones but it did have Funky Student who is the GOAT. 5 had Pompous Male Customer, Foreign Barker, the Pick Up Artists and that student who would assure you that he's a Phantom Thief, and I really liked all of those.
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>>379787695
3=5>1=4
Haven't played 2 yet.
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>>379787835
>hasn't played the best one(s) yet
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>>379780065
And strangely enough she is one of the higher end demons. Also one who naturally learns Debilitate.

Also:

>Nyx uses Megidolaon
>Her voice literally does Almighty damage
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>>379787695
5>2>4>3>1

2 has my favorite story but the gameplay is shit, only reason I say 5 is a bit better.

Also P1 has a decent story, but the gameplay is fucking terrible. The dungeons are trash, the encounter rate is insane. First person dungeons too. Fuck that
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>>379787695
5 right up until Shido's fight>P3>>>final part of P5>P4
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>>379787818
Newspaper club was cute.
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Going back to 3 after playing 5 hurts, hell rewatching the cutscenes again after watching the movie counterparts of them is even worse,
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>>379787959
Of course I'm saving the supposed best for last.
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>>379787818
>4 didn't have many memorable ones
Golden added a really neat old guy that patrolled the streets at night

After a point of the game he dies because the fog gets too bad and people start getting health issues and during some post new year day you see him and his wife again (implying they're both ghosts since he mentioned only starting to do the patrols after his wife passed).
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>>379787602
I finished P5, but yeah it had a very weak latter half with a noticeable drop in quality. Some Anon was saying they rewrote the script a few times, but even if that wasn't true Atlus admitted they did some dumb shit like making Goro the last character which explains why he was a retard who did absolutely nothing of worth.
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>>379780065

That's more Persona 1 Nyx.
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>>379787835
How the fuck do you play P1 first when its shittier in every way compared to P1 lmao.
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>>379787013
Persona 9
>becoming U.S. president
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>>379787818
>Girl stalking a guy at beginning of game
>Girl slowly realizes the guy is pretty boring
>Guy slowly gets used to it
>When she stops, he starts following her
>She starts getting creeped out
>He starts realizing how great she is

Greatest love story ever told.
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>>379787356
Listen to me boyo, and listen good.

WORLD
OF
STR
MAX THAT FUKKEN FIRE TREE FOR FIRE RESIST SO YOU DONT GET FUCKED AND MAX THAT FUKKEN TOP PHYS TREE SO LATEGAME YOU GET A DEFENSE DOWN MULTITARGET ALMIGHTY ATTACK
THE LAST AREA IS BULLSHIT, DDS2 IS SO FUCKING CANCEROUS ITS SAD, LEVEL EVERYONE EQUALY OR YOU GET FUCKED, HARD, IN 1 YOU RELY ON VENOM FANG FOR REGULAR MOB CLEARING, LATER ON SAKURA RAGE WILL SAVE YOUR ASS, SELL CELLS ON FULL SOLAR NOISE, DONT BUY FUCKING BULLETS, ATLEAST 15 DIS ITEMS, DONT BOTHER WITH OMOIKANES, HAVE FUN CAUSE 2 WILL MAKE YOU LOSE ALL OF IT.
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>>379788179
I think you made a mistake there buddy
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>>379787991
Is the encounter rate worse than SMT1? I wouldn't have been able to finish that if not for Estoma.
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>>379788259
*P2
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Best protag design coming through.
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>>379788179
Post more Todd's
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>>379788358
>not the remake design
green jumpsuit a best
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>>379774318
3 has better

Actually nevermind 3 is worse in every way.
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>>379788223
>SELL CELLS ON FULL SOLAR NOISE
Except for one specific kind which is better to sell on minimum solar noise.
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>>379788223
Thanks.
Does DDS2 have a good ending at least?
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>>379780065
So was this ever explained? P3 Nyx is made from Moon Rocks but this Nyx is a demon.

Are they just different entities with the same name?
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>>379788358
Step aside, kid
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>>379788223
People who complain about Tartarus have clearly never played DDS2.
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>>379788358
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>>379788223
I thought magic was the go to in DDS, did they lie to me?
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>>379788510
>portage from Catherine
Good taste, anon
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>>379788539
Tartarus and The Sun have entirely different problems retard.
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>>379788290
I wouldn't know, in P1 every fifth step is a battle
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>>379788223
I fucking hate The Sun. People can complain about YHVH's Universe or The Cathedral or the Tower of Kagutsuchi, but none of them compare to how fucking annoying The Sun is. I remember getting to The Sun at 10AM and I though I'd finish the game that day and 12 hours later I had just gotten to the final boss after not taking one break.

Grus is still worse though.
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>>379787991
I hate that fucking picture and every variant of it.
Unfunny meme garbage.
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>>379778379
Pro tip, most people stop reading entirely when the ending is in sight.

Also P3 is long as fuck and has so much text it's not unrealistic to have people just tune out and stop giving a fuck.
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>>379788625
>Both arduous slogs
Seems like the same problem to me.
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>>379788737
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>>379788471
I WOULDNT KNOW, AFTER A CERTAIN EVENT WHERE SHIT GOES TO FUCK AND GOD STARTS DOING ZONE FRESKY ASS SHIT TO THE EARTH I JUST GAVE THE FUCK UP. EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS SO AMAZINGLY SHIT I CANNOT POSSIBLY IMAGINE THEY NAILED THE ENDING, ESPECIALY WHEN THEY DIDNT NAIL THE GAMEPLAY, PRESENTATION, STORY, CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, MANTRA SYSTEM, BALANCING, GENERALY FUCKING ANYTHING.

BRACE FOR A FUCKING AMAZING JOURNEY AS YOU SLOG THROUGH SHIT, CAUSE IVE HEARD THAT THE DDS LAST DUNGEON AINT GOT SHIT ON DDS2S, FULL ON OY VEY TIER.
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5 takes too fucking long.

Nothing really interesting has happened during my 40 hour playthrough.
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>>379778334
>that's called having a huge dong and being a protagonist in a weeb game
This is remarkably accurate.
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>>379788730
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>>379788730
I wish more games had such gigantic endless treks as final dungeons.
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>>379788609
It is, but both work for you just fine.

>>379788471
It's decent. The only really good parts of the story of DDS2 are the parts of it that are just extensions of the plotline from the first game that were unresolved. The new setting and premise is pretty underwhelming and the overall goal isn't as interesting as taking down the other tribes in the Junkyard.
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>>379788223
Thanks for the tips,I was leveling up stats evenly but now I see the light

>>379788730
I thought ToK was fine,the only shit I had a problem in Nocturne was Puzzleboy
Fuck Puzzleboy
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>>379788914
>that one quest where you have to go to a specific spot in the warp maze
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>>379789018
I was fine with ToK too, I was more than just fine with it even, I really liked it, but some people have issue with it.
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>>379788914
Sexy as hell complex map
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>>379789137
I would agree if there was map making so you could record where the teleporters lead to. As is, it's just a pain in the ass.
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>>379787695
Anyone who puts 3 over 4 is a contrarian dipshit. 3 is worse in nearly every way and is extremely rough around the edges.

5 > 4 > IS > EP > 3 > 1
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>>379789131
I don't know why,even that warp part is not that bad
This shit here is >>379788914 gave me nightmares though
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>>379788693
Well, that's better than every one step being a battle like in SMT 1 from the midgame onwards.
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>>379789234
>Not making your own maps with pencil and paper
Casuals these days, I swear to godd
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>>379789234
Sounds like it's time to take out the old pen and paper.
I did that to map out Light Temple/Kagetsuchi Tower in Nocturne and it made it not too bad.
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>>379789432
>>379789446
I did take out the pencil and paper in the end, but I'd prefer to just have the map-making in the game. SJ has a great atmosphere, and being pulled out of the game because you have to record the map in real life messes with that. It's not like it would be easier if the map-making was in the game as well, it would just be more convenient and immersive.
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>people pretending to like P1/P2 to sound superior to P3/4 fags
pathetic
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>>379788609
YOU GOT MEMED, PHYS GETS A ALMIGHTY DEFENSE DOWN MULTITARGET ATTACK THAT WIPES THE FLOOR OF FUCKS LIKE GRIMENKALA AND SARASVATI, AT ANY TIME BUT KARMA TEMPLE SHITS EASY AND YOU CAN JUST VENOM FANG RANDOM ENCOUNTERS EASY, SKULL CLEAVE BOSSES AND YOU WIN, AT KARMA TEMPLE, UNTIL YOU GET ULTIMATE PHYS YOU JUST POWER CHARGE AND DO HUNT SKILLS, ITS HILARIOUSLY BUSTED SINCE ITS HP BASED AND AS SUCH YOU CAN JUST SPAM IT IN RANDOM ENCOUNTERS INSTEAD OF BEING DORMINA DORMINA DORMINA CALM DEATHED FOR THE 14TH TIME IN A ROW

WHOEVER MADE SARASVATI ENCOUNTERS A THING NEEDS TO BE CALM DEATHD IN REAL LIFE
>>379789018
GO FUCKING GET EM TIGER, PAST 30 STR PUT SOME POINTS INTO AGI, LIKE 2 STR 1 AGI, SOME VIT OCASIONALY
>BALANCING STATS
THE FUCK WERE YOU DOING NIGGER, IS THIS YOUR FIRST SMT GAME. ANYWAYS, GO FUCKING NUTS BUT ALSO DONT FORGET TO GET YOUR CHUCKLEFUCK FRIENDS BUFFS, GET ATMA SHARE WHEN YOU CAN AND ATMA BONUS TOO, LEVEL THEM UP IN THE ANGEL TREE FOR SWEET PART BUFFS, SHITS GREAT
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>>379774318
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>>379774318
>HP Sponge: The Final Boss

JRPGs are such garbage
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>>379789774
Futaba get off the internet
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>>379788914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRM7owWVV-o

By the time you are finished with Sector E, you will not want to listen to this ever again.
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>>379789774
>going Phys in DDS
I hope you like getting Last Word-ed by Arahabaki.
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>>379786647
>Lavenza is a loli so no action there either
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>>379779565
the bad guys win in 2 and traumatize everybody in p2 EP just to fuck with them.

>>379776095
>Fixed
p1 was dying girl fucking shit up

p2 was group of friends causing the end of the world

p2ep was bad guys trolling the good guys after killing all people in last world.

P3 emo kid now door

p4 is murderer killing people on The CW

p5 is the power of heart and mind control
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>>379790043
Yeah it's ok
It's basically masturbation
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>>379788783
>it's not unrealistic to have people just tune out and stop giving a fuck

And are this really the same people who have objectively decided which game is better or worse?
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>>379786647
Is this a fan theory?
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P2 IS + EP > P5 >> P3 = P4 >> P1
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>>379790001
Eridanus was fine and that music is great. Grus was the true hell.
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>>379776582
Except for the story, characters, and soundtrack, you mean.
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>>379790090
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>>379789359
3's story is far better then 4s
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>>379786647
that's like saying return of the jedi had a happier ending than empire strikes back
happier doesn't mean better written
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>>379790282
>BABY BABY BABY
>I NEVER FELT LIKE
>DEEP BREATH DEEP BREATH
>SOME DANCES

>Good
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>>379790247
>Grus
>hard
huh?
NG+ sure, but not regular Grus.
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>>379789982
ITS ALMOST 3AM AND THE FUCKING DRUNKEN RETARDS SINGING KARAOKE ARENT SHUTTING THE FUCK UP, BY THE LORD I WISH I COULD SLEEP LIKE THAT AUTIST AND IGNORE THE WORLD, SADLY THE BAR NEXT DOOR DECIDED TO SAY FUCK OFF TO WHATEVER ATTEMPT AT A FUNCTIONAL SLEEPING SCHEDULE I HAD
>>379790018
NEVER HAD A SINGLE ISSUE WITH IT, GO SUCK SOME MAG DICK
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>>379786647
Someone show me where Yu is in P5
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>>379790582
For me, Grus was hell even on NG. The teleporter mazes were so much worse there than in Eridanus.

>>379790672
You should go sing with them. Sing Kiss From A Rose.
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>>379783253
This is the best non-magical girl of P3 and you cannot tell me otherwise
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>>379790456
He's not talking about the story.
He's sucking off his perfect little self-insert.
I don't know if this is one guy or a couple but he's been riding that brotag dick nonstop in these threads.
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>>379780850
>avatar tuner
i will be a god and grow stronger.
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>>379790529
Holy shit,it's the same guy every fucking thread
OST is P3>=P5>P4 btw
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>my game is better
>no, my game is better
>my irrelevant game from 20 years ago is better!
they're all shit except persona 3
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>>379790431
3 has the weakest story of any Persona game.
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>>379790529
All those songs are good
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>>379790529
>NOW I FACE OUT I HOLD OUT
>AFFECTION AFECTION
>HEARTBREAK HEARTBREAK
>(LAME INTRO MUSIC) WELCOME HOME BIG BRO

>Good
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>>379790902
There are atleast two of them.
I know because I am one of the twoI actually prefer door-kun, but I like the chad shitposting.
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>>379791118
>>my game is better
>>no, my game is better
>>my irrelevant game from 20 years ago is better!
>they're all shit except my game
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>>379777278
>Am I missing something or is it some contrarian taste that exists only to get (yous) from die-hard purseowners?
nailed it
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>>379775497

at least ff7 was good
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>>379790529
>implying mass destruction wasn't a great battle theme
>implying deep breath deep breath wasn't great
also,
>master of shadow
>during the test
>a deep mentality
>living with determination and the remixed version of it
>motherfucking battle for everyone's souls
joy and afternoon break were good too for songs played every ten seconds
the shopping network theme was great too, made me wanna buy some shit
only one i truly hated was changing seasons
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>>379791230
Reach Out to the Truth is the only bad song from those ones though, seriously that one is really bad.
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>>379774318
I art thou, thou art I.

Thous hath forged a bond with the Happy Squirrel Arcana.
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>>379791342
>implying mass destruction wasn't a great battle theme
It wasn't
>implying deep breath deep breath wasn't great
It also wasn't
>list a bunch of other unmemorable shit
Only good thing you listed was Battle for Everyone's souls, that I admit was dope
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YES GUYS EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A SERIAL KILLER OUT ON THE LOOSE LETS HAVE AN OMELETTE TASTING CONTEST
>P4
>good story and writing
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I honestly have a hard time deciding which one has the best music. They are all loaded with great tracks.
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>>379791230
Why did you post better songs anon?

Also Reach out got replaced by Time to make history
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>>379788914
Games with complex maps like this?
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>>379780450
Demiurge is at least the final boss (NINE)super bonus boss(SJ), a NG+ boss(SMTIV) or tied to the main plot(Soul Hackers) before his appearance in Persona 5 and I don't even need to get into Izanami. It's only Nyx that is a random demon you can find and beat up in SMT yet Persona 3 makes her out to be an eldritch abomination.
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When will /v/ stop sucking P3's limp dick?
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>>379791486
there's a fat piece of context missing there
i understand you need to leave things out to make p4 appear worse than it is, but you're not tricking anyone but the choir you're preaching to
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>>379785207
>>379785535
I liked the original idea that it was meant to be an M.C. Escher inspired dungeon. But alas, PS2 hardware.
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>>379791384
Why do people hate that song again? It was no worse than OOOH YEAH BADADUMDUM BABY BABY.
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>>379791565
Strange Journey
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>>379787494
>>379787356
>tfw just started DDS a few days ago finally

Now to muster up the motivation to finish Karma Tower.
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>>379791517
>I honestly have a hard time deciding which one has the best music
Listen to your heart anon,you know that the best is LEAVE THIS BODY MANLY
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>>379790902
Nothing personal kid
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>>379786359
Morgana is the Magician mate. Ryuji is Chariot just like Meat Girl
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>>379791678
Mass destruction actually sounds like a battle theme it has slight build up then gets to the climax just when most battles are going to end, Reach out to the truth from the get go has lyrics the second the song starts and doesn't sound like a battle theme at all with its's lack of build up and climatic part of a song.
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>>379791618
I think it's because Persona takes place in a separate universe. Gods in SMT are just living human zeitgiests. Gods in Persona are exceedingly rare, and I suspect that's because they're supposed to be the "real" gods.
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>>379791486
>P3
>STREGA is trying to stop us but lets not bother to look for them at all and go to school instead
>World will end soon
>Go to school like nothing is happening

DEEP WRITING AND PACING
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>>379791621
Never cause /v/ likes to compare the entirety of P4 and and P5 to basically the last few hours of P3.

Most of P3 is boring poorly paced unfun schlock but the ending was good and because of nostalgia thats all people remember.
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>>379790090
Persona 3 is overrated as fuck holy shit
Belongs at 3rd brain tier at the most
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>>379786753
The "Shin" is there because it's like the "Super" found on Super Nintendo games. It was also probably there to note that Atlus is no longer a part of Namco or something. I don't quite get what was going on there.
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>>379790902
Yu is just that based. Him and Makoto have the best dialogue options.
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>>379791659
What context I'm I missing? They don't give a fuck what happens to anyone in this town, all they want to do is dick around and have fun while at least in P3, and P5 they get shit down and keep playing to a minimum.
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>>379792083

All gods in Persona aside from P3 Nyx exist because humans believe in them. They aren't gods in the classical sense since humans gave birth to them.

Possibly mainline as well since Lucy in 4 says gods and demons will exist as long as humans do.
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>>379792402
so you're telling me you didn't pay attention to the story and you're expecting me to think your criticism is acceptable.
tell me, why were they celebrating?
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>>379792402
If they have no leads, they aren't allowed to take a break?
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>>379792571
>Possibly mainline as well since Lucy in 4 says gods and demons will exist as long as humans do.
Not anymore they don't
>>
>implying any video games are good
>>
>>379792571

*Except Philemon and Nyarly. Those two aren't born out of belief, just being the collective power of humanity's persona's/shadows.
>>
P3 would probably be an okay game if it weren't for the annoying condition thing where your fatass party members get tired after three battles. 4 and 5 did it right with focusing on SP management (although 5 kind of blew it with Tae's accessories).
>>
>>379792083
I wouldn't really say gods exist in the Persona universe since everything there seems to be a manifestation of humanities belief in it. If humanity were to stop existing then so would every deity that has appeared in the Persona series. Nyx may or may not be the odd one out though determining if she would up a disappear is a philosophical debate like "If there is no life in the Universe does death exist?"
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>>379781535
Deus vult
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>>379792571
Not Philemon or Nyaralthotep
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>>379792313
No? SMT means True Goddess Reincarnation and is a spinoff to Digital Devil Story.
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>>379792930

Already added a correction post.

>>379792831
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>>379792724
I really wonder if they'll make Creator Nanashi a secret bonus boss or even the next main villain. Creator Nanashi is easily the strongest MegaTen protag right now.
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>>379792632
Dude I know what the fuck happens. But at the end of the day they still haven't found the killer. In P5 them celebrating after dungeons was okay because the characters are in a proactive plot where they are going after people. P4's story is reactive and they have no choice but to keep going in dunfeons thus making ther situtation more dire and yet they goof off half the time.
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>>379792964
It's a pun.

Shin in the title is written as 'True' but it's a homophone for 'New'. That was the joke.
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>>379780850
Persona. I'd rather have a reliable power than have to coin toss with Demons. I wish I was cool enough to get a literature Persona like the Phantom Thieves.
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>>379793023
It could be neat.
>You have to fight zombie Flynn and a brainwashes Asahi first.
Could be cool.
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>>379793105
They can only go into dungeons when somebody gets thrown into the TV, which only happens after they appear on the midnight channel. It's the exact same as P5 where the cast has to wait for an event to happen for them to be able to further their goal (in 4's case, the investigation into the killer). If somebody wasn't thrown into the TV then there's no dungeon to go to and nothing they can do to continue the investigation. So using that down time to relax makes perfect sense.
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>>379780850
Devil Summoner
I want to fuck the demons and the ones under my command have no choice but to obey.
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>>379785628
Doesn't Chidorita get revived with amnesia or some shit? In his trailer, he's even daydreaming about proposing to her.
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>>379790902
Sorry, but having one protagonist fuck another protagonist's waifu is just too much fun.
Poor emoboy, being forced to wear a green hat for all eternity.
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>>379793774

The Answer heavily implied her dying is canon.
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>>379793404
I made Isabeau my goddess to NTR my zombie Flynn.
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>>379793841
Leave Mitsuru to Chad
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>>379793105
you clearly don't know what happens, so let me spell it out for you.

they just caught mitsuo and he confessed to the murders. with no other leads or suspects they thought it was over so they threw a party. they thought they found the killer.
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>>379793863
The Answer was intentionally vague about it. Implied death, but you could also take it as Junpei regretting her having her memories cut off.
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>>379793482
Pretty much.
The P3 gang is the only one that goes school > good rest>>>> the end of the world
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>>379793902
>NTRing yourself
This is some next level cucking
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>>379794074
She's dead Jim. No girl would date a little league coach anyways.
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Why is it the Kirijo Group was there to try to save the day in Inaba during P4A but nowhere to be found in Tokyo during P5?
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>>379793529
>gets raped to death by Oni
GOOSH GOOSH
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>>379794204
His necklace was given to him by Chidori. Unless he robbed her grave, she's alive.
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>>379794090
The Dark Hour is only active at midnight. What the fuck else are they supposed to do the rest of the day?
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>>379791678
BABY BABY BABY is better to hear repeatedly than the intro to Reach Out
If it wasn't for the intro I wouldn't hate the song as much as I do
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>>379794483

Yaldy didn't consider them part of the game so no metaverse app.
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>>379794731
Rest ao you don't complain like a bitch ass nigga during the dark hour? Or go: dud I have a test tomorrow!!1! No tartarsauce for me when I need then?
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>>379791384
>Reach Out to the Truth is the only bad song
Found the shadow
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>>379791230
Why am i laughing at the last one
Also yes, they were horrible. I also don't understand why "Reasoning" sounds so cheerful but plays during serious moments.
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>>379794204
To be fair, Chidori is probably worse off that him as she'd have no records at all or education. Sure she could be an "artist" but we've never been shown she's actually good at it.

I'm sure Junpei could get any random cushy office job if he asks Mitsuru for a reccomendation letter anyways.
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>>379790529
>>379791230
>any of those

>bad
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>>379795382
Those songs are unironically better than this shit

https://youtu.be/QylQp6N3uMA
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>>379795608
Mitsuru is not a liar. Junpei suffers of peter pan syndrome and would only tarnish Mitsuru's name
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>>379790529
Meanwhile the only songs from P5 I can remember at all after the 120 hours I spent on it are the standard battle theme, Mementos theme, Sae's palace theme, and the heist theme. P5's OST was a massive step down.
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>>379785082
Agreed, he's by far my favorite example of character development in the series and vidya in general
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>>379795608
>Sure she could be an "artist" but we've never been shown she's actually good at it.
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>>379796357
Yup. There's no way she would be in a relationship with a little league coach.
RIP
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>>379785462
I emulated 999 during my winter holiday and I didn't fucking move from my chair for like 20 hrs
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