what was the scariest moment in system shock 2 ? were there

Google atmospheric horror. If you want jump scares go back to cowaduti

Videogames can't be scary, unless you're ten years old.

when you open the door and hear "hurry, run..." for the first time

>>379726502
Not after turning into a dude with a laser sword, assault rifle, and the ability to turn yourself invisible, increase damage and sapped as well as controlling enemies to attack their kin.

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good evening bronson

>>379726502
When you enter an empty hallway and that slow tense music starts playing

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>the first time this bitch appears
Some of the audio logs were also pretty spoopy

>>379727432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG5EmRit0W8&index=5&list=PLDDB2582EAA71D384

Where did you go?

Everyone complains about the absurd respawn ratio, but I really liked it.
It gave the game such a sense of urgency and the dread that you couldn't waste your time as much as you wanted.

>the basic zombies guys saying "run" or "kill me"
>those monkey noises freaking you out until you get better gear to beat them
>the first time you meet cyborg midwife
>the first couple times you get those weird psychic things from The Many
>the SHODAN reveal

Also, a personal one for me on first playthrough:
>maintenance area
>low of resources
>that damn maintenance robot thing following me
>close to death
>go up those little elevators that take you up to cargo boxes
>not sure what to do
>press button for elevator to go down
>robot just happens to be under the little elevator platform while it's going down
>platform kills the robot
I seriously did not expect that happening, and it's the moment that made me realize this is gonna be one of my all time favorites.

>>379726502
It's not really scary, it's more unsettling. Midwives in particular were very unsettling.

>>379726775
That doesn't even make sense, CoD doesn't do horror or jumpscares.

When you first hear a hybrid, and then when I first saw one.
*Alt f4*

>>379726775
hello summer

>>379728563
I remember trying to lure the big bot under the lift.

>>379728601
DELETE THIS

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>>379726502
literally the second this song started playing i knew this game would be forever one of my favs, it also scare the shit out of me how well timed it was, the second it hits 0:23 it all goes to hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bL7I_eWryI

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>>379726502
The thing that made this game scary to me was the re-spawning enemies. Backtracking through an area you cleared not to long ago and hearing enemies shuffling around always put me on edge.

Also
>yfw you hear a cyborg midwife

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*blocks your path*

>>379726502
>first area
>see big scary yellow mech on the other side of a window
>"I'm safe from him until I have to go into that room"

>complete medsci objectives
>"Okay looks like I'll have to fight the mech now, just gonna go to open the door and-"
>the big mech got out of the room on his own somehow and startles the fuck out of me

>>379729256
>rave music
>scary

>>379726502
The exploding helper bots when I had no ammo

Gameplay-based fear is the best fear

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>>379729256
>this song
Good shit.

>>379730334
>Hear a man beg for his life
≯̴̧͞͠G̢͘l͟͠͠o͡r̨̢͢͡y̴̢̨ ̸̛͘͝t̨̢̡͜o̵̸ ̶̢͠ţh́͘ȩ̴ ̡m͠a̵̢n̨͟͢͠y̶̷̧͞
>sound of a shogtun blast and bloodsplatter
>̨͞͡I̴̧͢͞͡ ͘̕a̴̧̢͢m̡ ̢͘͠a̵̧̧ ͡v̷̸̢̢͠ò̡͝i̷̡̧͟c̶̀ę̶̸̡͞ ̶́͜͞͠i̢ņ̀͜ ̡͟͞t̢̡͝h̶̷͘e̴͘i̷͜͢͝͠r̨͢͡ ̴̸̨́c̸̴̴̀͢ḩ̶͡ǫ͝͠i͞͠r̷͢
>more screaming and shotgun blasts

Seriously, the sound/music teams for this game knocked it out of the fucking park.

>>379731403
>Seriously, the sound/music teams for this game knocked it out of the fucking park.
Fucking this.

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>>379726502
>MY CUP RUNNETH OVERRRRR
The fuck was this guy's problem?

>>379728601
Was that the one with the monkies or the robots?

Maintenance Deck. Fuck that place, especially the exploding robots and claustrophobic atmosphere.

>>379726502
If you are scared by anything in SS2 you are literally an autistic manchild.

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I wanna hug her and tell her everything is going to be ok

>>379732117
If you breath oxygen you are a loser moron, haha looks like I win again

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>>379732117

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>>379731864
With this fuckers, tons of them.

It's cool how everything that happened aboard the Von Braun and Rickenbacker is the Hacker's fault. Forty years later his actions still keep taking lives.

>>379726502
Babies must sleep... babies must rest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR6WBGKw0MA

>>379731864
>monkies
What the fuck am I writing, monkeys
>>379732423
Yeah fuck that
>SIR, SIR WHERE ARE YOU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ruF7VeDTw

>>379732423
THAT'S
THE
TRIOPTIMUM
WAY

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*screams from Hell audible*

>>379734640
I found it quite easy just getting close to them, smacking them with a wrench and going back when they're about to explode. They don't even attack you when you get too close to them. The white ones were harder though, fuck

>>379732423
>playing through on normal difficulty
>be on the engineering deck
>quicksave right as I am low hp and pinned down by laser turret
>immediately after I quicksave, one of these cocksuckers comes through the door behind me
>can't kill him before he blows me up
>if I try to run I get my ass blasted by the laser turret
>have to start all over again

It wasn't enough for this game to be unsettling as all hell, they had to make it frustratingly hard, too. I've only ever been able to beat this game on easy.

>>379735371
The fuck? I just beat the game on Normal for the first time and it was far too easy. You have so much health, and damage and resources are so forgiving.

>>379735371
>he doesn't save in a different slot every time

>>379726502
babies must sleep
babies must rest

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>>379728601

>>379735371
>>379735672
>>379735771
>he did an OSI playthrough

>>379736104
What does that mean

>>379726502
The mosquitoes.

>>379736361
Those were just infuriating, not scary

>>379726502
So everyone is already talking about the engineering deck, with turrets and robots around every fucking corner, and the hydroponics deck with cyborg midwives galore, but didn't anybody else remember when I don't remember which deck it was but you're in this big open room and you get a message from Xerxes shortly before the room fills up with those giant fucking spiders

>>379736854
Is that the Ops part with the sim unit trap?

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>>379728601

>>379736854
Lol I used that blue potion that makes you run fast as fuck, inserted the cartridge and got the fuck out of here, didn't even fight them

>>379737101
Yeah I believe so.

>>379728601
THAT'S THE TRI-OPTIMUM WAAAAAAAAAY

>>379731086
its not the song ya mung, its the athmosphere.

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>>379737332
>Tfw running into a wall at full speed and dying the first time.

I miss games that gave you abilities that benefited you but could also bite you in the ass for abusing.

The scariest part is the beginning where you only have a wrench to defend yourself with, once you start getting more gear and get stronger with cybermodule upgrades it is no longer scary when you can easily kill anything that shows up.

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*activates forcefield with you and C4 inside*

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*rapidly throws ninjas stars at you and runs away*

>>379741085
Those guys were severely underused in SS2

>>379741085
FUCK YOUUUUU

>>379726502
When that techno beat starts in Med/Sci.

>Go to deck four, can you remember that?
Deck four

>>379743148
Remember that part where you had to destroy those two shuttles The Many were trying to use as breeding grounds and when you tried to leave there was a horde of shotgun using hybrids? Image if instead of hybrids it was a horde of cyborg assassins going after you.

>>379726502

First time encountering the robot midwives.

>that electronic screeching
>constantly talking about the little ones
>then later learning about the selection process and who these people were

System shock 2 was the only game to scare me years ago

now its all "jump scares" It's feels like devs have forgotten how to make an actual immersive atmospheric horror game

>>379728462
There are mods that fix that

>>379735371
>>379735771
>he uses manual saves

>>379728462
It was annoying but I think the game is better with it, you were never safe anywhere and it really adds to the tension.

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SS1 may not have been a horror game, but the Autobomb maze was some truly terrifying shit.

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would you ?

>>379749983
Oh yeah i would find a way baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOzAxngZMI

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>Turn the music off at the start because of the pulsing techno ruining the scares for me
>Putting most of my points into hacking because I'm a hacker, after all, and I heard the game can be literally uncompletable otherwise
>Get shot to shit by turrets and have mostly broken guns but decent ammo, low health

>Going through that fucking dark cargo bay with the exploding robots completely silently
>Every time a robot even shuffles its ass I hear it clanging super loud
>My weapons are busted the fuck up and I can't use my wrench to fight exploding fuckbots

Jesus christ how horrifying it was.
I'll have to play SS2 again, I got up to the Many hive and put it away unfortunately.

>>379749983
Jack into cyberspace and kill it?
Hell yes I would.

>>379734640
He's not that scary but he did startle me when he suddenly appeared outside of the room he was trapped in

>>379729256
Sounds like it would've been amazing for a scene where you're being chased by way too many enemies to fight through a labyrinth of hallways. Not particularly spooky, but adds a sense of urgency with a rhythmic beat. I like the breakdown, too, where it turns into ambient noises before the percussion comes back.

It sounds a bit like the soundtrack to Blade, now that I think about it.

>>379750771
>because I'm a hacker, after all
Isn't the protagonist a soldier?

>>379749983
It'd be like a gloryhole.

>>379751569
Look at you, Hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors.

>>379751958
You know that quote is in reference to SS1, right?

>>379751958
That's from the first game and it's used as a test file when you're setting up your soundcard.
It never appears in-game.

>>379751958
What did she mean by this?

>tfw going too fast for fear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0yTEDZIu4g

>>379751569
Yes, the protag of SS2 is a soldier.
SS1s protag is the hacker.

>>379752156
Something about vore.

>>379752121
>>379752094
I knew I heard it in-game, I apparently just didn't remember which game. Apologies.

SS1 is fucking outdated and obtuse in ways that are just shitty as opposed to the odd charm of SS2's menus, and I do not recommend

>>379752536
>I knew I heard it in-game
You couldn't have. I just freaking told you that it is not used in-game.

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the fucking spider trap

Fighting The Many boss
I had to cheat and spawn medkits

>>379752536
>>379752739
But you do hear in in-game, right in the beginning intro cinematic that recalls the events of SS1.

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>>379749983
nah

>>379753092
Oh. Well I guess it's cool that they finally found use for that clip.

>Shodan achieves sentience
>Kills all the humans and tries to create the perfect mechanical life form but gets smoked at the last second
>Spends years in space farting around doing nothing
>Her work creating the perfect mechanical life without nature's frailties and inferiority ends up creating the perfect unity hive-mind of flesh and bone
>Ends up getting shot to death by the very dude she tried to bang

Has there ever been a bigger fuckup than SHODAN?

>>379751334
>Sounds like it would've been amazing for a scene where you're being chased by way too many enemies to fight through a labyrinth of hallways.
thats exactly what happens

>that puzzle with the code hidden in the paintings
I ended up missing one digit but I tried all the combinations and it worked kek

>>379753092
Thank Christ anon I was starting to doubt myself even

>>379753307
>dude she tried to bang
u wot?

>>379728664
I can relate to this.

>>379728664
>>379753686
>Hurry!
>RUN!

>>379753328
I wouldn't know, I turned the music off for maximum immersion.

>>379753307
SHODAN is a incompetent mustache twirling villain. Hearing her throw bitch fits in SS1 after you foil all her plans was great.

>>379753862
>I turned the music off
So you didn't play the game properly.

>>379753650
>Rule with me, your queen, and I can make you something better than flesh

Fortunately, SS2guy is better at resisting the offer to become a cyborg dildo for a computer bitch than I am.

I found those exploding robots creeped me out the most.

>Oh, very good, sir!

>>379753942
B-But I did it good in my own way

>>379753847
>I'm sorry!

>>379754107
She doesn't say that, m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLMk1E41kE

>Recreation area
>the park/makeshift mass grave
>the music sounds like something breathing/a heavy heartbeat
>hear a scream as you go into a small maintenance area
>two of those creepy faceless Cyborg Midwives lunge at you as you try to leave

That was the creepiest part of the game for me. It's too bad the body of The Many and the SHODAN fight sucked, the rest of SS2 was amazing.

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>>379728601

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>>379728601
>>379754651
>tfw Localized Pyrokinesis

sound design made SS2 so atmospheric. one of the best in gaming history in my opinion. especially The Many

>>379731403
My favorite audio log in any game. Like fucking hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_142HcqxExY

>No sequel where you play as a man tasked with making sure SHODAN never causes trouble again in her new human form
>Teaching SHODAN that she needs a job
>Convincing her boss to not fire her after she has yet another egomaniacal episode at work and punches a child
>Appeasing her by pretending to be her robot slave when she doesn't actually have any cyber powers anymore
>Teaching her that her body has biological functions that need to be satisfied or she'll die
>Setting up scenarios where it looks like her minor inconveniences are actually catastrophic events that shake humanity to the core, ie tricking her into believing her pushing a bin over led to an outbreak of cholera and the return of the bubonic plague
>All the while trying to instill human values into her and reform her

>>379755012
What is a drop of rain, compared to the storm? What is a thought, compared to a mind?

>>379755339
i listen to this before the sleep sometimes
https://youtu.be/pp5xGLj1RME

>>379754268
>Your song is not ours

>>379753139
>>379754394

lol how come i dont remember this thats hilarious

>that moment you turn around and there's a midwife's face right up against yours
Happened to me twice last playthrough and I fucking hated it each time.

>>379726502
Cyborg midwifes gave me fucking chills.

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>>379735371
>not playing on impossible

>>379755613
>SILENCE....THE DISCORD

>>379755537
4:42 its fucking Garrett

>>379754394
>that EEEEERRRRRRRHHHHH as he lifts the gun
what the fuck that has to be edited in, I dont remember that

>>379755329
We don't deserve SHODAN-san

>silence
>walking around
>suddenly very close, hear
>"I'll tear out your spine."

>"Babies must sleep. Babies must rest."

>(whispering) "I can now transfer my magnificence to the Rickenbacker."

>"Gooooood. Yyyyyoouu'veee murrrrdereeed theeeeir youuung."

>>379756914
I just beat the game yesterday and that sound is present.

System Shock 1 Enhanced plays better nowadays. No dumb RPG bullshit locking out good weapons or durability mechanics breaking them every other minute.

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BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP

>Is there...another?

>>379726502
Emergent one - crawling through cargo bay with nothing but a bundle of shotguns about to fall apart.
Prepackaged one - every insight into midwifes.

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>>379757623
>try to shoot it
>your weapon has jammed

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>>379757942
>alarm goes off
>hear multiple cyborg midwives approaching
>mfw

>>379752536

SS1 is completely fine if you take the time to set up everything first.

you can switch the screens in the HUD to show things that actually matter instead of having to scramble through menus.

>>379754394
>NAH

I can't be the only one who lost their shit and started laughing hysterically when that part happened, right?

>>379757380
Fucking get out. SS1 was absolutely a revolutionary game, but its gameplay design does not hold up to modern scrutiny whatsoever, mouselook mod or otherwise.

>Laser rapier every fucker on roller skates, difficulty gone
>resource management is a joke, as you end the game with literally hundreds of clips, dozens of medipatches, and a sack full of batteries
>pointless weapons and grenade types convolute rather than enhancing gameplay with meaningful tactical choices
>dated AI that, aside from a few examples, only responds to the player by shooting

I love System Shock, but to argue it can surpass its sequel, which perfected the implementation of RPG mechanics in a survival horror shooter, is insane. A few balance issues doesn't change that fact, either.

>>379760139

it's not a survival horror it's a space dungeon crawler

the RPG aspects in SS2 were clunky at best non-functioning and pointless at worst. Many of the routes were broken and unusable, and the game offered little to no occasions for play styles with them.

also no cyberpspace and wacky superpowered implants.

>>379761285
>also no cyberpspace and wacky superpowered implants.

>Why was the survival horror game a survival horror

Tonal dissonance, you fffffuck.

>>379726502
>>379727951
This
In that bottom part of the Engineering Deck. You're just walking down that massive corridor and al of a sudden you hear a horrible, static scream.

The most atmospheric deck by far is Hydroponics, though. The dark lighting, coupled with the foreboding whispers of The Many, trying to persuade you with their perverse ideas of paradise through becoming one, really did it for me. Plus the midwives were really terrifying. Anybody remember that audiolog?

>"No.. Please! I don't want to change!"

Goddamn they'd better not fuck up ss3.

>>379762254

BECAUSE IT WAS A SHITTY SURVIVAL HORROR

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE START AND THE END IN TERMS OF THE DANGERS TO THE PLAYER IS STAGGERING, THERE'S HARDLY ANY SURVIVAL BY THE TIME OF COMMAND DECK

>>379731403
Looking glass had some serious talent with the sound engineers, its even present in thief.

>>379763481
Spoiler: It's pretty much one guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Brosius
He's married to SHODAN.

Hydrponics is bad (in a good way) because there are lots of enemies but its still kind of early so you're not that prepared.

After that and before that the game isn't too scary tho.

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>>379764052
>works for harmonix and irrational

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is system shock 3 gonna be good ?

I wish we had more system shock threads they're comfy as hell

>>379764586
Nah

>>379764586
why would anything good ever happen?

>>379726502
SHODAN's character and the enemy designs were terrifying and the atmosphere is unsettling but the game isn't really scary

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>>379764052
imagine having sex with the person who voiced SHODAN

how creepy would that be

how creepy would having sex with the person who did the cyborg midwife voices ?

>>379764586
>comfy
Stop this.

the one problem with system shock 2 is that it feels more like a regular sci fi horror game whereas system shock 1 has more of a cyberpunk vibe to it

>>379764586
I somehow doubt it. I know they've got Warren Spector working on it, but something tells me it'll suck. It's what they said about the UI.

Warren Spector (I think it was him, at least) said he thought the UI in SS2 was bad, when really it was just in-depth. Sure it wasn't the most simple thing in the world, but anybody with a pair of braincells to rub together could figure it out in the space of a couple of minutes. I think he said something about simplifying it. For me, that sounds sort of worrying.

>>379765125
JOIN US

>>379726502
Most of it was unnerving but I had several "moving fast through the halls" and right as I turn a sharp corner, a fucking enemy is right there. Always made me jump.

>>379755329
I once had the idea of SS3 being Shodan in Rebecca, or with some sort of human form being captured and held in another station.
Yet, the Many start reapearing and you'd have to find how Shodan, despite being weaker, still manages to control things. Helpful NPC could be Nah and Hacker, serving as a sort of guards for Shodan.

>>379765908
He's sort of right. It wasn't a convoluted mess like some other mid-90s PC games, but it was just annoying to use in some cases.

>what do I need to do
>press tab
>click bottom right corner
>click top left corner
>click on tasks

>I want the bullets in this gun, but I don't want the gun
>clear out 3 spaces of inventory
>pick up new gun
>right click new gun
>click unload
>drop new gun
>pick up any items you might have had to drop for those 3 spaces

>I want to look at the map
>can't manipulate it
>can't zoom in
>can't look at any part of the map other than the specific section of the floor you're on
>can't mark points of interest unless you've already been there
>can't remove points of interest unless you go there

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>>379765908
It could just be to make it more intuitive, while retaining its functions. Hopefully they won't streamline too much since, like you said, after a while you adapt well to the UI in 2.
I'm still hopeful.
>>379764052
>You c-c-call that a dick, pathetic in-insect?
>Take out the thrash, for the Man-Many are arriving. The Many party guests-s-s-s.

>looking glass is back guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJHpb46-WCY

>>379764586
I don't expect a System Shock game at all, but I think it'll be decent at least.

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>>379767908
That looks awful.

>>379767639
>Pathetic h-h-husband of flesh and bone. P-Pooooounding this pussy. What is a m-m-man... c-compared to a goddess?

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>>379767639
>>379768235

>>379764586
Prey was pretty good, yeah.

>>379767102
They can ix that easy.
>hold pickup button to unload weapon and take it's ammo instead of picking up the gun itself.
>tweak the map a little

there. Done.

If I recall correctly, Spector Said that they wanted the UI to "not be that complex!" when really, what was so complex about it?
>Press tab
>up top is your inventory grid
>Down bottom are your action buttons, each of which are clearly labelled.

Granted it wasn't the most straight forward thing in the world, but people always bash the UI for being overly complex when that simply isn't the case. It just LOOKS complex. the actual operation of it is fairly simple.

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>>379768235

Citadel Station or Von Braun?

>>379769134
Plus, as with most aspects of the game, it is the perfection of the concept from SS1. It allows for the same (or improved) functionality, but in a much more fluid manner.

>>379769476
citadel, larger and more fun to explore

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It's interesting that I tend to love cyberpunk settings but actual outer space sci-fi stuff never gets me interested. System Shock is the only example I can think of that I fucking love. Shodan, for intended purposes, should be typical edgelord material for evil AI number 12973, but there's something about her that gets me so invested.

>>379769538
Exactly.

>>379769412
"You are my Avataaaaaar...."

Shodan totally wanted to fuck the marine.

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>>379726502
I love the ambient sounds and stuff they put in the game, right down to the humming of the engine of the Von braun.

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>>379770027

>>379770028
>using graphical mods

>>379770441
That's not the Hacker, though.

Well, I'm going to reinstall SS2. Thanks /v/!

>>379770441
>Look at you hacker
>It's the soldier
What did SHODAN mean by this?

>>379769928
At least in SS1, it's the fact that you effectively spend all your time inside her, being the brains, eyes, ears, and hands of Citadel Station.

Every time I saw a security camera, I was reminded there was an omnipresent malevolent force that desperately wanted to turn me into another ghastly cyborg servant.

>>379726502
Realising that Bioshock was better.

>>379770559
>ever uninstalling Deus Ex or System Shocks
blasphemy

>>379769928
It's the dominatrix overtones to your relationship in game and the fact that you're forced to ally with her. In a fucked up world, your only friend is a psychotic, murderous AI. You know she's going to stab you in the back. The question is when.

It's pretty rare for a game to give the player a villain easily ten times more evil than Hitler, and then force them into a companion role with them. It gave the game a constant air or distrust.

>>379770535
I didn't make the fan art, just thought it was funny with Shodan's straight face saying that.

>>379768790

So, how is Prey compared to SS2? I heard the game is a bit meh on a first playthrough but it gets better with each succesive ones.

Even though SS2 is not supposed to be scary, there's been so many times I felt unsafe, especially hearing the Midwives approaching.

>>379770864
Won't make that mistake again. I want Shodan in my computer at all times.
I wonder if there's a virus out there called SHodan. I know there's the search engine but that'd be freaky.
>Your computer has been infected by shodan.exe. Surrender pa-pathetic human-an.

>>379759258
Some people hate the NAH but I love it.

>>379770710
She never says this to the player in SS2. It's a line from SS1, where you play the role of a nameless Hacker who breaks into the TriOptimum network and removes SHODAN's ethical constraints to get out of punishment.

See the glorious intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1KU1nHxgwg

>>379770876
That makes sense. When I first played 2, I thought they had ruined the twist by showing her too soon but it does go into that sort of partnership that you know it's not going to end well for you if everything goes according to her plan.

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>>379769928
So...

Anybody else wonder how the fuck she made the room disappear around you when you first meet?

>>379771565
Visual manipulation via cybernetic implants.

>>379726502
THE MANY ARE STRONG!

>>379770864

It's been 4 years since SS2 has been permanently installed on the Pc. There's just some games you don't uninstall. What else do you have always installed on yours?

>>379769928
It's probably how much of a sore loser SHODAN is that you like. At least that's what I love about her.

I might be saying something blasphemous but I just can't get into SS1. Played about 2 hours and barely got anywhere just because I couldn't get anywhere. I kept fighting with the game to do the most simple things.
>>379771565
Maybe that area was just a sort of holo-deck thing? It's just a long hallway leading nowhere. That or Shodan got into your implants, which would be an interesting twist to the formula if 3 were to use it.

>>379770876
>It gave the game a constant air or distrust.
This is a really good point, and I think it's something that a lot of people miss when they talk about SHODAN or the second half of the game. She wasn't just a villain, she was your partner. At least, for some parts of the game. She even begins grooming you, sending you cyber-modules, complimenting you when you complete tasks for her.
She even gives you an escape route.

She has to have some greater plan once she escapes, but she never tells you.

I love her disdain for her creations. Cooperating with a rogue AI who thinks itself a god while you work together to destroy the eld alien hivemind that she herself created, but now wishes to destroy, is such a great idea for a story.

And then you find the last person who allied with her...

>>379772024
SS2 was honestly ingenious with how they designed the game. I don't even know if the devs actually realize these sort of things or if it was just fortunate and accidental but there's some fantastic subtleties to a megalomaniac AI.

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>>379771078
It does some things better, like moving around the station and psi/alien powers, while simplifying some of the SS2 formula (weapon skills, research for example is just scanning live lifeforms). It rips off SS2 pretty damn well, and adds a few things of its own, zero gravity and crew bracelets which tell you where everyone is. Level design is really good.
It lacks in the atmosphere department though, I wasn't thrilled by the story, it always felt sterile somehow.

>>379757623
why would a camera declare seeing an enemy?

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>>379749983
all day every day

>>379771948
Are you playing the Enhanced Edition with mouselook? It makes the game a lot more enjoyable for people who can't stomach the original keyboard-based controls.

Try to stick with it if you can. At least try to get to Level 2 (Research), and be ready for a nice surprise when you get there.

>>379772024
>Finding that dead French girl
>Listening to her audiolog
>Shodan taking away those cybermodules as punishment

It was a great moment that broke the rules of the game in the best way possible. You're never supposed to be able to LOSE those experience points, but she just takes them away like they were nothing. It concretes the idea in your head that although she isn't nearly as powerful a she was in ss1 and is shamed into asking a lowly human for help, she still holds the reins in your weird relationship.

>>379771078
It's obviously nowhere near as good but it's more of a successor than bioshock

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>>379771948
SS1 is a dungeon crawler/metroidvania type game. You're supposed to explore, find the upgrades, and use said upgrades to reach new areas you couldn't before (unless you do crazy sequence breaking shenanigans). The audio-logs and the design of each level makes it pretty clear what you're supposed to do and where to go. And the sooner you realize the ui is just click and drag the better.

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I kinda want to install SHODAN in those pleasure simulators.
What would it be like?

>>379772541
>Level design is really good

I did expect that at the very least, I enjoyed Dishonored 2 level design. Just the fact that it is heavily inspired from System Shock 2 is interesting to me so I'm probably going to pick it up at some point. Thanks for the answer.

>>379773429
she would stomp on your dick

>>379773157
Played an hour with original controls until I got tired and looked up that pressing E or something changed to mouselook. I still kept going for a while but that drag mouse to aim, UI way too cluttered and messy.
I'm sure I'll give it another go but when I tried it and just wasn't in the mood to fight my way to enjoyment. Which is why the remaster actually got me excited since my hope is they'll just change the overall controls and possibly updating the UI to SS2 level so that it's a bit more manageable.

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>>379773583
Nice.

>>379773173
>she takes away your cybermodules
I never fucking noticed that that's awesome
>>379773429
>she realizes she has a body
>she busts out of the pleasure sim chamber
>suddenly shodan is running around the von braun with you, in the body of a prostitute wearing lingerie

>>379772541
This. the story was lacking.

Alex mentions something early in the game about the Typhon not being evil -- they just didn't understand the concept of morality. If they'd included some kind of telekinetic link like the one between the marine and The Many, it could've really spiced up the story and gave the enemy some character.

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>>379773429
you'd be powerless :^)

>>379773704
>running around with SHODAN in your brain
That sounds spooky.

>>379764586
I wish they wont go Prey17 route. I mean remake old game + few new trick. I liked Prey17 but i tired this idea "Let's go back to our roots by making same game". I think they need take overall concepts of previous games and combine them with new gameplay and other shit. It still shoudbe sci-fi fist person game but with more novelty.

>>379773297

I always felt that System Shock 2 and Bioshock were polar opposites on some aspects. I enjoyed SS2 for the atmosphere and played it several times whereas I played Bioshock only once.

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Shodan doesn't love you.

>>379773667
>drag mouse to aim

Huh?

>UI way too cluttered and messy.

It's really no worse than SS2, especially with fullscreen mode enabled.

The remaster is going to be more than just a fresh coat of paint and modern controls. It looks like Night Dive is redesigning Citadel Station and adding in BioShock-like ambience and gameplay.

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>>379773429
>S-s-s-s-such a pathetic creature, whimpering and twitching as-as-as I take you inside of me
>Yoooouuuu will give me my pleasure, human. Willing or not.

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>>379773704
>you will never force shodan into a fembot body leaving her powerless to stop the dicking

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>>379774378
There needs to be more SHODAN porn.

>>379774581
There is some, but they always put her in a human body. I'd post some but I'd probably get banned.

>>379774364
Kinda went off the rails explaining my problem with it. I don't see the Bioshock-like ambience connection. I remember people complaining that the password was right next to the keypad but in the original the password is in an email, which they might've not been able to get or were planning on doing something to it that stopped them from putting it in the prototype.

>>379774747
They stayed pretty faithful with the original, I really don't see a bioshock comparison either.

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The older graphics really added to the enviorment when it came to the enemies. You go round the corner into pic related. Not even dead space scared me that much

>>379775012
The prototype is little like what they've shown in videos since then. They're going in a completely different direction and redesigning the game.

>>379726502
being chased around by midwives, at least until I got more ammo for the shotgun.

In classic '-shock' (and more recently, Prey) formula, the tension is eventually replaced by violence. not like that is a bad thing

>>379774719
>No porn stories about her manipulating your cybernetics to turn you into a sex slave
>No stories about her manipulating your nerve endings and forcing you into multiple orgasms whilst she brags about how easy it is to make you cum
>No story about her turning you into her little bitch whom she secretly loves but will never admit it.

Disappointing to say the least.

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>>379775087
I find it better with the rebirth mod, although the old midwife model was creepier.
>>379775183
That's too bad, I haven't been following it much. I've seen videos of the demo and such. They're probably trying to get the bioshock audience for more shekels
>>379775272
>you will never get stuck in cyberspace where shodan makes you her personal sex slave
why even live

>>379775183
Have they shown more than this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPLF9Ad9ns
I can't seem to find more and I still don't see the Bioshock comparision, other than prettier graphics.

>>379774747
>>379775012
Did you guys miss the ominous string music in the demo and the cinematic piano in the latest trailer?

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>here are some more upgrade modules

>>>/wsg/1732462

>>379775926
I actually like the change in music, but of course that isn't faithful to the original. But besides the music, at least from what I saw in the demo it looked pretty close.

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What a good thread, lads. It's like I'm on a different board, shitposting was rampant today holy shit thank god for OPs like this

>>379774747
>>379775012
As for gameplay, Night Dive has said they were considering adding SS2 / BioShock-like RPG upgrade points. It was actually one of their stretch goals during the Kickstarter campaign.

Also in the latest trailer, there's a part where the player freezes a pair of mutants and shatters their frozen bodies with the steel pipe, a-la BioShock.

>>379776436
Everyone who just wants to shitpost is tired from the E3 threads.
Have some upgrade modules, human. Enjoy them while they last.

>>379776601
Video?
I'll admit, not sure how I feel about that, despite loving Bioshock 1 with a passion.

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>>379776621
>you will never have a cute AI give you cybernetic modules

>>379776621
T-thanks Shodan you too

>>379775659
rebirth is disgusting

>>379776805
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IPcFU6kXeZ4

Starts at 2:09

>>379775272
someone get some writefags on this shit

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>>379776836

>>379777158
I AM a writefag. I just don't want to get banned for posting porn on a blue board. Also it's like half past twelve and I'm really fucking tired.

>>379777101
I'm more upset by how wonky the melee seems. It looks like one of those annoying, will only register if perfectly aimed, instead of taking into account the whole swing of the attack.
The freeze part seems more like adding a more environmental aspect that wasn't there before. I was imagining it as them adding an equivalent plasmid to the game or something.

>>379777772
I'm more annoyed by how that monster looks like your typical Cod zombie desu. I mean the wrench was pretty much like that in SS2 too

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>>379778021
SS2 wrench felt a bit better. Maybe it was the more blocky design that tricked me but it felt more satisfying. I remember Dead Island having the same problem.
The zombie is weirdly generic. I guess they both wanted to keep it close to the original while improving graphics but its just not menacing at all.

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>>379778021
Looks like a faithful remake of the original sprite.

>>379777450
post it on some other site and link that shit

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>>379778816
It is faithful but with improved graphics it looks kinda silly. SS2's many are still threatening with their constantly pained look on their face. I think for SS1 they should give a bit more wear and tear to get the creepiness effect going. Otherwise it's almost laughable.

>>379726502
When you come back and finish it a second time after finishing it the first time shortly after it was realised and discover its always was a hot pile of shit and rose tinted hipster babies probably havent even played it

>>379779658
Neo neo-/v/

>>379779658
Nah
It's been fun, /v/. Been a while since I had a nice System Shock thread

>>379771078
It's not as scary but it improves on the mechanics. The game got a bum rap for tangential stuff if you ask me.

@379779658
Imagine taking the time to make bait this dull
you don't deserve a reply

>>379777226
System Age 2

>>379773716
>go check all the rooms
>the one with the guy contains a man

That is how to portray homos accurately. Not putting that shit on your face.

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what will happen in ss2 ?

>>379782510
3*

>>379775659
see that's terrifying. The expression, the detail, all of it. Those two juxtaposes the difference between old and new horror: there's no love or detail put into anything anymore

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>>379782510
You are back in citadel.

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Not even a debate.

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>>379728563
>monkeys

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>>379784309
>the polito form is dead insect
>are you afraid ?
>yfw

>>379784309
Why did all devs back then have long hair?

>>379785143 meant for >>379784047

>>379785416
Because back then video games were made by and for heavy metal nerds

>>379785416
it was the late 90s

>>379783149
But it got scuttled at the end of SS1

>>379777101
The pipe looks so fucking weak holy fuck, it's like hitting someone with a little 2x4

>>379728601
literally a meme

>>379726502
The scariest parts are the ghost of the sick guy in the radiation tunnels, Malick vs Bronson vs fucking everyone, nurse Bloom's procedure, Hydro D and the garden on the recreation deck. It's not just about scary pars but the creepy storyline as you learn how The Many took over the ship and how it affected the day to day lives of the crew themselves.

>>379786959
Maybe SHODAN actually succeeded in recreating it at the end of SS2 using the Von Braun's FTL engine.

>>379778021
>>379778816
They fucked up the lore, they're saying now that the mutants existed before the Shodan shit went down, as slaves for physical labor

>>379731656
He was a soldier and a simple man.

>>379764984
h-haha

that would be s-so creepy

like totally creepy and not arousing at all!

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Personally for me its when you first reach the... location with the busted radiation pipes and patrolling midwives. I was low on ammo and heals, and I distinctly remember having to unlock a lot of doors while watching over my shoulder.

>>379776038
why do you have so many laser pistols anon

Who the fuck decided it was a good idea to stick SHODAN on the box and in the game's intro and totally spoil her twist appearance?

>>379786959
It has been rebuilt or somthing. Im sure Spector will give an adequate explanation.