>the "bad" guy wins in the end Why are these always

Yeah, yeah, 4chan culture whup de doo, we had this thread yesterday. Fuck off.

because they are almost always the most interesting character

>>379723926
>ITT: Villains that did nothing wrong

>>379724572
It's true though. She brought it upon herself.

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>>379723926
>Series features beautiful women and hideous men
>The hideous men are considered the stars of the series
I'll never understand Japan.

>>379724790

It's all for the self insert.

>>379724682

She really did though. She was a shitty older sister who made her younger sister feel bad about herself, and then when her younger sister reached out to her for help she essentially told her to stop being weird and get over it.

>>379723926
what series?

>>379724790
i wish there was a gay analog of this where there was old men and twinks. that is my fetish

>>379723926
Because you know you are a pathetic faggot and have to delude yourself into thinking you like NTR to lessen your own suffering.

Or maybe because bad guys are usually written better than the rest of the cast, idk.

>>379724228

This is why anti-heroes make the best MCs.

>>379723926
They aren't 'always' the best, but you have to remember 9/10 times the devs go with the easy 'villains act heroes react' trope when designing the story. The villain is the one with a goal and plan, the hero is just the guy going along to fuck the villain's dreams and life up. When the villain has a pants-on-head retarded goal, of course you feel good for sticking a boot up his ass. But when the goal is actually reasonable and understandable in the setting, you feel like a tremendous cunt for playing a character who has achieved nothing of their own and only exists to ruin other peoples' day. And since the only people in this safe and cozy modern-day industry who are willing to risk a 'bad guy wins' storyline are usually good writers, they make sure to make the villain sympathetic enough that a good chunk of players will be satisfied with the ending in one way or another.

>>379724790
something something yakuza something something porn.

STOP MEMEING THAT HENTAI REEEEEEE

>>379725463

Tokyo Tribes has this

I liked Doom 4

>I am not the villain in this story

>>379725306

Cross Ange

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>>379725553
>Or maybe because bad guys are usually written better than the rest of the cast, idk.
>Villain: "Here's a long drawn out explanation for why I am doing this."
>Hero: "No you're wrong"

>>379726085

Is there a good recent example of the villain winning in a video game?

>>379727713

Singularity? Can't remember the specifics but one ending you side with the villain, the other you side with the scientist but Merica becomes commie land, or you kill everyone and the time portal tear thing starts eating up the coastline with you at it's center.

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>when Arthas slices open Illidan and climbs the throne and the game just ends there.

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>>379723926
>bad guy was the good guy the whole time

reality hurts

>>379727496

Literally this last election

>>379723926
I always see those lights behind his head as his hair.

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A lot of games idealize the main character to the point where they have no flaws, this is character death because the player can no longer relate to the character they are playing.
On the other hand the villain has clear flaws, unless they are just "doing it for evil" villains, in a world where everyone are too flawless.
Hell, even "doing it because I'm evil" can be more relatable than a flawless main character.

Take another thing into consideration, how do the characters relate to the world?
Let's say the main character is boring and flawless, the villain is evil and wants to rule over it.
In the context of a believable world, even the silly villain here is more relatable. He has human aspirations that actually make sense and are applicable to this imaginary world where the good guys are too perfect.

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>>379723926
>the "bad" guy wins in the end
>you're the bad guy
Pottery

>>379729363
Agree. He will do what no other nation has done. Destoy america by the inside.

>the bad guys win in the end
>the game gives you a choice to be the bad guy somewhere during the game
nice

>>379734470
>He will do what no other nation has done

Wow they don't kid about American education lmao

>>379735126
>He will do what no other nation has done
>Destroy America
Do they teach reading comprehension where you're from?

>>379728157
I belive it was
>Side with scientist
>Opening scene repeats but noe your in a Russian helicopter and a statue of the scientist on the island instead of a generic soviet man
>Side the bad guy
Communism worldwide but his distrust in you causes a split. Commie USA headed by him begins developing weapons preparing for war
>Kill both
Explosion unleashes fucked up creatures worldwide and society collapses. Stories of white house being rebuilt under leadership of tyrant with time bending powers (implied to be you)
>Do nothing
Bad guy shoots you and laughs

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>>379735808
Plenty of your previous presidents have already done that kek

>American education
>I'm a europoor and I'm more familiar with the history of your nation
Hahahahaha

>>379723926
In the Tactics series Lodis(bad empire) always wins.