Name 1 (ONE) western game with good combat that actually has

Max Payne 3 if you're talking mostly shooting mechanics, but even if you limit it to just melee it does that good as well.

>>379585670
I really liked Sleeping Dogs combat.

Sleeping Dogs

Any of the Batman games?

>>379585670
>good combat
you'll deny anything on this point alone
>smooth animations
western animation is outsourced to south korea if its good
>sense of impact
what the fuck does that even mean you shithead

>>379585670
That's literally just the Batman Arkham Asylum combat system.

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>>379585756
I probably should have mentioned melee combat but I agree that Max Payne 3 has good shooting combat

>>379585802
>>379585798
sleeping dogs is a chinese game you retards

>>379585670
Witcher 3. Suck my dick.

>>379585670
Spiderman Web of Shadows.
Bully and The Warriors

Are you implying that the garbage you posted is any good? Looks like Dead Rising 4's weightless combat. Also Chivalry, Savage Resurrection, and Dying Light all have great melee combat.

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>>379585846
What the fuck do you think it means you inbred simpleton?

>>379585965
>Spiderman Web of Shadows.
Winner. I'm a weeb and I can agree with this.

>>379585798
+1

>>379585670
For Honor's combat itself is god tier, maybe one of the best representations of melee combat in games. Every single other piece of the game is a fucking dumpster fire though, but I guess you only asked combat.

Dying Light and Dead Island. I don't think there are that many games that allow you to break individual bones on your opponents body, but Dead Island had that and it was great.

>>379585670
Darksiders 2.
Condemned

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>>379585984
Wait, did Yakuza finally change their fighting engine?

Is this that Yakuza game you all sperg about? This looks fucking retarded lmao

>>379585984
kiryu looks a lot better without his suit jacket

is there an option to play with that costume all game

>>379585670
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic still has the best melee combat system I've ever seen in a video game. Japshit can't compare to it.

>>379585670
This looks like genuine shovelware. What the fuck is this trash?

>>379585670
>Y6's retarded shit

Literally worse than Y4

>>379586148
Yakuza is good, I think, but yeah the combat is eh at best. Generic button mashing. Sleeping Dogs kills it, for a similar game that is far superior.

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>>379586148
No this is Yakuza 6 which is set to come out next year. People shit on it because of the massive changes to the combat system, garbage story, shit performance and horrible screen tearing
>>379586169
Yes you can play like that the entire game.

>>379586202
DMoMM is a good game, but people are seriously overvaluing it. Chivalry is pretty much the same combat system refined, and soon we will have Mordhau which is further refined from Chivalry.

>>379586202
Only a few games have combat this good, Dark Messiah is truly greatness.

>>379585670
Skyrim

>>379585821
Nigger

Absolver I hope

https://youtu.be/ep48jruOzdg?t=837

>>379586305
Chivalry is like the autistic sperglord cousin of DMoMM the fuck are you on about

>>379585670
Quake 4

>>379586305
Chivalry and Mordhau are strictly multiplayer games though

>>379586385
It's like that because of tryhards that exploit the glitches (that Mordhau is fixing) in the game. When you play it like a normal person, it is very reminiscent of DMoMM combat, with added things like dragging, feinting etc.

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>sense of impact

Fucking Watchmen, the game is really mediocre but i always liked the fighting, also i played it with my AI bot ;_;

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this

>>379585798
>>379585802
That's literally just Bam Ham combat

>>379586369
Even fucking Dark Souls pvp looks better than that shit.

>>379586263
Looks like a fucking garbage Jap ripoff of Sleeping Dogs.

>>379586570
that's a pretty shit opinion

>>379585670
Japanese animation = stylized realism
Western animation = cartoon

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>>379586580
>Yakuza is now considered a ripoff of Sleeping Dogs
We've come full circle boys

>>379585670
I liked Eternal Darkness combat
>>379586202
also this

>>379585670
fuck screen shaking

that is all

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in what games can I perform a rolling thunder?

>>379585670
>sense of impact

Fucking Condemned. It's like I'm really beating the shit out of hobos.

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>>379585670
Little Fighters 2

Doom 1/2
DOOM
Quake 1-3
Painkiller black
Serious Sam
Unreal Tournament
Hotline Miami
Gears of War
Metro 2033
E.Y.E.
Prey 2017
Shadow of Mordor
Dead Space
Max Payne
The Surge

Chivalry
Dark Mesiah of Might and Magic
Infamous 2
Divinity Original Sin

>>379586145
Yes and cut lots of other features, which didn't happen with the previous engine changes.

>>379586715
Hobo Simulator 3 WHEN

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>>379586813
>Prey 2017
How good is the gunplay then? What can you do?

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>>379585670
>brutal and satisfying combat
>has great physics
I've only played yakuza 1 but the 6th looks like the game I've always dreamed of. I remember buying overgrowth because it looked like it fit that description but it's still trash to this day.

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>>379587039
I mean you could always check the game out when it's on sale or something

>>379587039
same, I'm a sucker for that shit
Are there any other games like that?

>>379586516
Boy am I glad I pirated this and dropped it halfway through. WB is Ubisoft-tier now.

>real time action game
>enemy waits turn before attacking

Why is this still a meme

does Yakuza 1 emulate well on pcsx2? I've put this series off for too long.

>>379587409
>does Yakuza 1 emulate well on pcsx2?
yeah it does

>>379587039
>brutal and satisfying combat
>brings up the physics

This is legit shilling at this point. Ive seen this thread at least 10 times over the past week and it has replies like this every fucking time.

Why are you guys shilling for the most disappointing game in the series when its nowhere near a western release?

>>379587382
Because otherwise you fall for the press button to dodge meme. Or you go the iframe route, but apparently you faggots don't respect timing based combat.

>>379586896
Weapons have smooth animations whilst having heavy shots akin to nu-Doom. The mobility of you character from leveling and powers is always great. It's just a solid shooter.

>>379587515
And before I get accused of hating this series it couldnt be farther from the truth I have loved these games since I first played them 10 years ago but its the exact same thread with the exact same webms and very similar interested anons replying about the combat looking satisfying when its anything but that.

>>379587515
I know nothing about yakuza you aspie, I'm just saying it looks good.

>>379587515
>HE'S PAID TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION NOOOO THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT!!11
Wew lad, the game is disappointing but the combat is fucking great.

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>>379587515
Imagine being this autistic

>>379587629
Nobody who has played the game thinks this way. The combat is floaty and unfulfilling as fuck and the difficulty is a joke.


>>379587695
If I was autistic I would be collecting neetbux instead of sitting on a bus packed with smelly blacks on my way to work.

>>379587409
Kiwami releases in less than 3 months.

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I'm not sure I get these threads, but webms are nice.

>>379587039
There's a Japanese demo for half of the first chapter on the PS store. All you need to do is have a Japanese account which is EZPZ and probably a good idea anyway and obviously a PS4. It's probably not as good as you seem to think so you should try it anyway.

0 is pretty great though and 1 and 2 emulate well.

>>379585670
that webm almost made me want to buy yakuza. almost

>>379586130
there's literally no reason to mention the existence of dead island since Dying Light came out

Dying Light is like Dead Island except it's not utter shit, in fact, its bretty gud

>>379587478
great, thanks I have some catching up to do then

>>379587780
I've got it preordered but I also love to play the original versions of games because I think it's interesting to compare them, e.g. Resi 1 and REmake

>>379586558
actually it's more like Bully combat stylized into kungfu with Bamham counter

>>379587914
Dying Light didn't have the analog combat mode.

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Y'all just lost

>>379587989
who care about that though

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>>379586263
>ragdolls

even though that shit is so old, ragdolls with melee combat always get my brain blood flowing to my boner.

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>>379587751
>Nobody who has played the game thinks this way
I've platinumed it and while the combat is a step down from previous entries, it's still enjoyable. The focus on physics in combat and the various changes RGG studios made add some much needed weight to the punches. I'll admit that fewer weapons, recycled heat actions, enemies guarding with no reliable block counter and barely any QTEs in the final boss fight could and should be rectified in the next installment but you should still give it a shot instead of going on a tangent about how much you hate it without even giving the game a shot. I feel the demo isn't really representative of the game at all, especially the combat.

>>379588154
OST is top-tier though, I will give it that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg15Bx4DiKM

>>379588123
Me. The only thing I remember about Dying Light is going into people's open co-op game and stealing their non-respawning chests.
Analog combat was actually memorable though.

>>379588123
In a thread talking about combat systems, that is a pretty important thing to mention, since it was and still is pretty unique and satisfying.

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Arkham. Granted, it's stale now, but it's been top tier for western games.

>>379585670
Bamham
God of War

>>379586710
Tekken. Dragunov has this move.

>>379585846
>what the fuck does that even mean you shithead
It means that you feel how are you hitting your enemies. Good sounds and good bloood/sweat spalshing when you hit your enemy. Also good animations and physic that make the enemies flinch and stagger when you hit them well. Western cucks are lazy as fuck so they replaced proper sense of impact with mlg hitmarkers.

>>379585965
I liked Shattered Dimensions more.

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There aren't enough dynamite cop games, it needs more.

>>379585670
Yakuza is your example for good combat? Nigger there's a block button, a light attack, a heavy attack, and your special QTE attack meter.

>>379588123
Analog combat almost made Dead Island worth playing. Added so much more gravitas to combat than just pressing attack when they're in front of you.

>>379588154
>add some much needed weight to the punches
There is no weight to the punches at all. Literally every other Yakuza game had more weight behind their attacks than 6 does, even Kenzan with its fifty million slashes to kill a guy at least had the sword feel like you were cutting deep barring dual katanas. 6 is like punching air even when you connect, and there's two times where it actually feels like they have weight:
The final hit of the fight because of the brief pause.
When you punch someone and they block.

Getting more combo strings in the main game doesn't somehow magically make the actual base combat feel impactful, even hitting people with a bicycle feels less hefty than it did in the previous games, and in those games it knocked people down for maybe a sixth of a single health bar compared to 6's one-shots or half their health. You can even see in the webms how everyone just bounces around, kicking is done half-heartedly and the kick sounds in-game are like you're barely scraping the guy. Hell, look at the Tiger Drop in >>379587889, it doesn't slightly slow down the game when it goes for the punch and it doesn't cause Kiryu to gather all the Heat and glow transferring all the punch into his hit, it's just turned into this immediate slam into him that slightly causes orange and white particles to fly out of his fist.

Want an example?
Tiger Drop in Kiwami:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4kakQQxmPM&t=49s

Tiger Drop in 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPhuzlgK_k

It sounds like you're slamming into the guy's gut in Kiwami while in 6 it's much quieter and like you're doing just a regular punch.

There's nothing wrong with the Heat Actions though, those feel incredibly damaging all the time.

Another game with great hit sense is Amrored core For answer, you really feel how every bullet hit the target

>>379585670
People hate on it but I really liked the witcher 3 combat. Though I guess I was comparing it to other types of open world rpgs which are all bad.

I mean its not as good as dark souls but its nice and fast and you have a lot of abilities. I think if they made dodging and rolling more costly in terms of stamina it would be amazing.


I recently played nier automata and I thought witcher 3 had better combat than that, though less flashy.

matrix path of neo

>>379587995
So many cool memories with this game. I remember I'd raid the butcher's place and stealth kill people with salami. Good times

>>379585670
Mordhau

Can you stop shitposting about RGG6?
Ishin and 0 had a lot better combat, hell even RGG5 had more in depth combat then 6 does.

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>>379592339
>that Ajax level and fighting off all the gang members in one go near the end
>going into China town with a shirt that pisses off the chinks
>those rage moves

>>379588154
I liked the changes, but shitting out unfinished tech demo game as a final Kiryu chapter was very low of RGG studio, neither Kenzan or Ishin had those kind of problems yet they were spin-off to test the water with new features and graphic engine.

>>379589541
I didn't like the direction they took with the second game, still I think they made like 4 of them.
2 arcade titles ported to SS and DC and I think 2 exclusive to PS2.

>>379585670
Dragons dogma

>>379585949
Arcade one button shit without impact. So what's your point once again, retard?

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>>379586130
>Dead Island
>good combat

What is the combat in Yakuza? Is it actually good? I never played one, but I'm hoping Sega starts bringing them to PC. I might just get one for PS3 eventually.

>>379595871
Why don't you watch a gameplay video and form your own opinion instead of making posts like these?

>>379595980
Because looking at videos, it looks very shallow and shitty, like you're just pressing one button to do everything, and I need someone to tell me otherwise because I'm very interested in the role-playing elements and setting at least.

>>379595871
It's fun, especially when you have fully upgraded character.
Other then that every game in the series has some kind of flaw, but by no means it's awful or anything.

>>379595980
He should rather play those games and not watch a video, especially when no one on youtube actually plays Yakuza well.

>>379595871
Not as good as Sleeping Dogs.

>>379585670
remember me

>>379596478
V. weak bait, try again tomorrow.

>>379596790
Fuck off, sick of Yakuza getting shilled like it's not infinitely rehashed COD-level tripe that hasn't improved it's shitty ps2-engine combat in over a decade yet Sleeping Dogs gets shat on and Yakuzacucks think they're superior with their generic Jap-tripe rehashes.
Get out.

>>379596932
Huh? No reason to get mad.
I like Yakuza series just as much as Sleeping Dogs, shame they cancelled the second game.
Yakuza series has a problem of getting released every year but the combat is improving every release (except of now with 6)
Blame normal-fags that started shilling Y0 because of the shitty youtube marketing and hyping the game up like it's one of the best game ever when essentially it's a reskin of Ishin.
Funny enough they will buy into the hype again and buy a reskin of 0 which is called Kiwami.

>>379585670
God of War

>you didn't even try

>>379593959
This is why I really want another Bully. For all we know, they might take some stuff from the Warriors fighting system and put it in there. Shit could be glorious

>>379585847
That's some shitty fucking bait but on that subject, I got really disappointed with BamHam once I realized how shallow it is. Once you get to the big fights with unblockable attacks you're spamming jump and throwing batarangs but in the end you're still just mashing punch whenever you got openings and avoiding by either dodging or pressing Y.

Yakuza is pretty basic but at least it's an actual beat em up.

>>379585670
Guacamelee. Suplex city, baby.

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>>379585670
>normal-fags
>when essentially it's a reskin of Ishin.
>buy a reskin of 0 which is called Kiwami.
Three strikes. You're out.

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>>379597328
>hyping the game up like it's one of the best game ever
Which it is. 0 is the pinnacle of Yakuza games and one of the best games in years.
I'm actually jealous of everyone who starts the franchise with it, because Yakuza didn't do leaps with every game, but advanced really slowly with small steps, which is why many people, me included, feel burned out of the general formula and can't really enjoy 0 as much as it deserves.

>>379598871
0 was very good but Ishin was better.

>obnoxious screen shaking for little things like kicking someone in the legs counts as "impact" now

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>>379588790
>press x to win
>"Combat with impact"

>>379585984
>Every webm has him doing a bunch of girly kicks

Is this supposed to look cool?

>>379599331
It's a mischievous plan, faggot imported a game and it's actually the weakest in the series, so he will hype it up before release and when everyone will get in the west he will constantly shitpost about how bad it is to make himself feel better about spending 10$ more for shipping costs.

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This, not a western game, though.

>>379585670
For honor

>>379599039
>Ishin was better
Not really. Either the hit detection sucked or the enemies had too many i-frames in that one. They could weave through your attacks via side steps and you could not hit them as they are recovering from their animation with your sword even the hitbox are connecting.

>>379598871
>one of the best games in years.
You fucks are out of touch delusional weebs, holy shit.

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>>379585968
>Yakuza
>Garbage combat
Neck yourself senpai

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>tfw got a PS4
>tfw a million games in the backlog
>tfw still have to buy, beat and plat Y5

Dark Messiah Might and Magic
F.E.A.R
The Matrix Path of Neo

Yeah but does it have anything as hype as fighting Kiryu as Taiga or Taiga vs Majima?

Fucking Taiga getting the best parts of 4.

>>379600289
So... same as 0 and Kiwami?
It has the same engine, nothing is changed much in terms of mechanics in those 3 games.
Ishin is better since it was something fresh, 0 like other RGG reuses so much shit it's just not the same anymore.

>>379595138
>without impact
false, kill youself.

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>>379600578
Kiryu vs Akiyama and Tanimura > Saejima vs Kiryu = Saejima vs Majima
But man was that moment amazing when it came.

>>379600483
ayy, you're in for a wild ride, kyoudai. 5 is great.

Sleeping Dogs combat is a fuckton better than Yakuza combat.

>>379600918
>that fight where Saejima, Tanimura, Akiyama and Kiryu all fight together vs hundreds of yakuza in the street at the end of 4
>that fight in 5 where Kiryu takes on literally hundreds of yakuzas in the beginning of 5

man, this series has lots of great fights.

>>379596050
The combat is nothing to write home about. It's pretty simplistic but gets the job done.
On the other hand, it's a pretty damn good Japan simulator where you can dick around with karaoke, bowling and tour the streets at your leisure. Sub stories is set to trigger when you wander to certain locations at the right time and is pretty entertaining in it's own right.
The first two game had a renown crime novelist behind the story but suffers from clunky combat. Later entries generally have better combat but the story has taken a step back from being a serious crime drama.

>>379600927
uhh, not really. Yakuza has way more in depth combos. there are certain moves you can't even do unless you are drunk etc. not to mention the game as a whole is much better than Sleeping Dogs. I liked SD, but calling it better than Yakuza is a joke.

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>>379600918
>kazuma gets red heat during the fight

>>379586669
had anybody here been to japan and to the street in webm before?
does it actually looks like that??

I feel like the street should look older and things seems a little too new like they just renovated everything.

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>>379601070
Man, I am incredibly hyped for 5 thanks to everyone's webm posting back around when 5 was announced to be localized. Kiryu dodging the RPG was the sole reason I even got interested in this series and it hasn't disappointed.

>>379601283
>You're still doing the charged attacks
>You get Tiger Dropped

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>>379601349
Kamurocho isn't a real place, dude. It's based on Kabukicho, and I guess it's similar enough. Be careful if you ever go there though, there are real, actual yakuzas operating there.

>>379601181
Uhh, no, sweetie. It's nowhere near as good.

>>379601349
It's a very popular street and it has new shops and has general overhauls every year, recently they made a new building next to Kabukicho sing.
That's also the reason why in game the building are changed and the change of Kamuro theater.

Mad Max

>>379601643
nice argument. I can tell you never played a Yakuza game in your life. Not sure why you are comparing a GTA clone with Batman combat to a JRPG though, desu.

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>>379601349
Keep in mind Kamurocho is based on Kabukicho. Picture related is how the in-game Don Quixote is in real life, they even advertise the RGG games on it every time one comes out.

>>379600621
They might have fixed up those problems in Y0. It was pretty noticable in Ishin when you use dual stance and mash circle against a guy with his back a wall which causes you to whiff 2-3 slashes because he side stepped backwards.

>>379601606
lmao this place is a tourist trap, literary kids go through there with their moms to buy a lollipop from donki.

>>379601606
yeah, i'm aware of that.
but look at your image,
there's a certain feelings to it that feels real,
the stains on wall,
the lights,
etc

it's just a few streets,
they could had put more details into the textures, right?

>>379599501
lol was thinking the same

>this supposed to be a good or bad example? i dont know..

>>379601872
yeah, and the shop the kid buys a lollipop from is owned by a yakuza. try going to a bar there and not paying your tab. I've been to Shinjuku before and seen some really dodgy / scary types at night. not 100% sure if they're just posers trying to act tough or actual low level yakuzas, but they're there.

>>379585895
Developed by a western company...

>>379602098
I know, you obviously don't go to these places man.
I ignore those nigs and just mind my own business, but I heard few stories of foreigners getting scammed long time ago in some bars.

>no one said Dark Souls yet
Fucking nu-/v/

>>379601772
He's shitposting

>>379602364
>>379602364
Guaranteed replies

>>379602364
Since when Dark Souls is made by western developers mr. smarty pants?

>>379602257
it's hard to know what place not to go to if it's your first time though, unless you have a jap buddy to guide you. i've heard of people being charged insane ammounts when they paid with credit cards etc. gonna have a hard time negotiating your way out of it when you don't speak japanese and the person they send to talk to you is clearly a nutcase yakuza,

this shit happens all over the world though, especially in asia, so I guess it's to be expected.

>>379585670
Already mentioned but Sleeping Dogs has the best melee combat.

>>379602574
it's a WRPG.

>>379585670
Quake 3

>>379602753
nah, it's JRPG

>>379587780
>>379587960
kiwami is worse than 1 in most ways except the combat anyway so you should play the original first

>>379602572
>>379602574
Counting
>>379602753
Guaranteed replies
>>379602801
Counting

What happened to For Honor?

>>379602605
hell, even the japs will tell you not to go to Shinjuku, Shibuya and Harajuku at night. the native baddies are bad enough, but they have nignogs from Nigeria and places like that trying to con people now. I guess it's the same as in the US in the sense that it is a good idea to avoid sidestreets etc. and not go anywhere alone at night.

>>379602753
What?

>>379603071
That's why you need to know the language.
I wouldn't go to America or Great Britain if I didn't know english, same for any country.
Sure you may go to some tourist traps and have all your money gone but where is the fun in that?

>>379603214
you honestly wouldn't expect that to happen in a developed country though. I mean, I won't go to Lithuania or some shit then act surprised when I get my shoes stolen by the local tractor gang, but I wouldn't exactly expect to be physically dragged into shops and extorted for money in the middle of Japan.

>>379603420
I live in Europe and went to Italy few times, let's just say I saw worse things then that.
Seeing hookers fight each other to death just to be stopped by some undercover guard and dragging one to his car while I eat ice cream was a really unusual experience.

>>379603190
It takes all of it's qualities from Western RPG's. It doesn't have a JRPG bone in it's body.

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Max out the difficulty in Batman Arkham Knight, try for a high score in challenge mode, and you will feel like a fucking badass conquering all the varied enemy types that demand different gadgets and attacks. People who shit talk it play on easy or didnt get past the first part of the game with only basic enemy types.

>>379586313
yakuza """combat""" plays EXATCLY like arkham batman you idiot

Fallout New Vegas

The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay.

>>379585965
The Warriors is a really underrated game on here

>>379585670
DOOM 2016

>>379587995
This ain't no game
>this is da streets

>>379604104
Didn't it get a PS4 release last year?

Can't remember who developed it but for all its faults enter the matrix combat was really fun. Fighting trinity in the garden level was great.

>>379585670
>post a webm of enemies not even fighting back

>>379603614
>from Western RPGs

Like what? The stats? Dark Souls is nothing like a Western CRPG