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Pillars of Eternity is at a pretty huge discount on GOG right

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Pillars of Eternity is at a pretty huge discount on GOG right now and I'm wondering if I should buy it. The critic and user reviews all say this game is the shit, so I've come to you to find out why it's actually just shit.
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obvious shill thread
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>>379583472
go for it if you liked the old infinity engine games and want more, it isn't as good but is worth it a playthrough if you're a fan
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>>379583472
>The critic and user reviews all say this game is the shit
I'd not heard this but I can understand why. I'd buy it if it were maybe $5. I never finished it because I just kind of lost interest.
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Don't make a Fighter, a Wizard or a Priest, since you're gonna get Edér, Aloth and Durance early on
Go to options and turn auto-leveling up off so that you can spec characters from level 1 as they join your party
Press tab to see interactive objects
Avoid all NPCs with golden plated names, those are backer NPCs with tl;dr background stories that are completely irrelevant to the rest of the game
If you're done with act 2 and are still enjoying yourself, buy the expansion and get on that shit before going through act 3
Enjoy yourself
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>>379583472
>RTwP isometric combat
Don't do it unless you're a desperate storyfag or if you're absolutely sure that you enjoy this type of combat. I actually like the story unlike most people, but it wasn't worth all those hours of suffering.
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>>379583472
>The critic and user reviews all say this game is the shit
No they dont.
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>>379583472

It's not really bad

Just bland

Endless bland
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The game is simply hollow. It's like if someone took old IE games and sucked all the fun out of them. Overbalanced, boring, soulless mess that fails to be fun to play or at least hard even on POTD. Just utterly non-satisfying.
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>>379583738
Thanks for the advice senpai. Any way to remove backer NPCs entirely?
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>>379583968
what are you talking about? you can auto attack your way to victory on normal with the proper party
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>tfw no mod to remove backer NPCs
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>>379584347
>towns are populated 50% by stupid glowing godspawn OCsues
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>>379584302
Unfortunately not, which is a shame because they tend to stand out like a sore thumb. At least White March doesn't have them.
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It's basically a babysitting simulator. You have to constantly micro-manage your uneblieveably retarded party.
Also, the 3D models are extremely ugly.
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>>379583472
I need romance and LI's in my shitty CRPG
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>>379584389
>50%
like 70% from what i remember
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>>379584489
That's the whole point of RTWP rpgs, would you rather click on an enemy and watch as your whole party starts throwing spells left and right on their own accord?
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>give the game vancian casting with insanely limited charge pool
>but make it possible to miss with the spells
>but make them horrible prior to level 4
>but make all buffs last 15 seconds
I don't remember a single RPG where i was picking spells up to level 4 not based on how good they are but based on the ones that suck less.
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>>379584661
As long I can set somewhere which spells the throw? Then yeah, I would.
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>>379584302
>>379584347
>>379584389
>>379584398
>>379584556
Anyone tried this mod? http://rien-ici.com/iemod/pillars_of_eternity

Fantasy names for backers and DisableBackerDialogues sounds like exactly the stuff I was looking for
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>>379584906
iemod is the only way to get any enjoyment out of playing poe, really
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>>379584906
Haven't tried it, but that sounds like it is at least something. Doesn't change the problem that there are dozens of godlikes which according to the lore are supposed to be rare.
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>>379584026
Metacritic score is 89, GOG score is 4,4 stars
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>>379584324
There are several enemies in the game, mostly in the expansion, who you can't do this to because difficulty scaling is busted. Alpine Dragon will wreck noobs even on Story Mode.
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couldn't really get into it when it first came out, played it again this year and had a blast
looking forward to the sequel now
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>>379585298
>mfw finished the game on story mode

No regrets, it's true that I actually had to use my brain against alpine dragon and the aedra dragon tho.
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>>379583472
It's not shit, it's just really, really boring and bland. All the writing is exposition for far more interesting things that you'll never actually see, all the combat is piss easy and mindless, there's no engaging puzzles or secrets and the story is borderline nonsensical and dull.

It's like they tried to make Baldur's Gate but forgot every single good aspect of it in the process. The game would've been shat on big time if it were released 15 years ago, simply as that.
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>>379585417
This guy gets it. Easily the most forgettable RPG I've played in the past 10 years or so, right up there with Dragon Age and Wasteland 2.
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>>379583472
>buying single player games
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>>379584661
It was never before as exaggerated as in PoE.

You have short cast ranges and weird cast shapes coupled with retarded companion AI and incoherent collision circles for every entity. They get stuck in each other routinely and hit by AoO's unexpectedly. And then you have this >>379584831
Finally add 2+ years of game-changing patching even AFTER GotY edition release. Classes were drastically changed, abilities turned from useful to shit. If you received a patch affecting your MC during a playthrough you most certainly would've wanted to restart. This happened to cyphers for example. Went from a fun class to "only use the first three out of seven levels of ablities" class.
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>>379584231
>that fails to be fun to play or at least hard even on POTD
You had no difficulties with the game on POTD? No hard fights? You just mindlessly rampaged through the whole thing?
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>>379586082
As long as you follow the shallow gameplay formula forced on you by the game (tank n spank) and have at least some idea about what are you doing, there's only a few at least mildly challenging fights and only because they force you to fight after cutscene with default party composition.

I had more fun with modded BG2.
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>>379586082
There are retarded cheesy builds aplenty for POTD 'enthusiasts'. Its possible to break the game with unavoidable shit regardless of how high an enemy's resist is.
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Did they ever fix the long loadscreens?
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>>379585647
>abilities turned from useful to shit
This never happened. Only the most ridiculous skills got nerfed. The vast majority of them got buffed.
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>>379586894
>nerfing from good to mediocre is okay even if it makes you never pick the spell again
Why not make more things viable, anon?
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>>379587030
Oh, wait, I missed the "the" part of your post. I'm so used to retards on /v/ bashing PoE that I just post shit like this on autopilot sometimes.
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>>379585564
>playing multiplayer games

Are you having fun with everyone telling you you're fucking shit constantly?
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>>379587030
Dropped down to 86, you gotta update your pic
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>>379587030
>needing a thrid party client to play video games validates my purchases
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>>379583472
Play good crpgs. This fucking nu-crpg shit revived the surface level stuff and left what made these games great back in the 80s and 90s. These games don't need modern graphics to be enjoyable.
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>>379587030
>>379587117
>You're not only retarded, you're also a fucking liar. Not that I would expect anything else from a a shit-eating retard, who buys air on GoG.
>Getting this mad at people criticizing your precious game that you have to resort to poor memes and all of that for no reason because you are too retarded to read.
:^)
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Is this good for people who want to get into games like these? I might pick it up
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>>379583523
Fuck off
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>>379587630
It is
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I really enjoyed it (didn't finish it tho)

I haven't ever liked a cRPG except for this one

combat is fun, characters are pretty good, the focus on religion is cool
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>>379587630
>games like these
You mean actual RPGs? Yes, it's the best actual RPG with actual roleplaying since New Vegas. If you meant "isometric rtwp h&s garbage", just play Baldur's Gate 1-2.
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>>379587542
like unintuitive, inefficient interfaces, arcane stats and character building and mostly crap combat?
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If Pillars sucks, what's a good game in the genre that I can buy for daddy? He has original copies of all the old ones (Baldur's Gate, etc.)
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>>379587542
The hilarious thing is that there's not a single RPG on your pic, it's all dungeon crawlers and/or h&s garbage. You could have at least posted Wasteland 1, if you wanted to cosplay an oldfag RPG veteran, but it's obvious you have no clue about the genre.
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>>379587542
Also,
>no Darklands.

Yep, you're a fucking shit-eater alright.
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>>379588627
Underrail if he likes exploration-oriented RPGs.
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>>379585417
>all the combat is piss easy and mindless
If you play on Easy, maybe.
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>>379588627
Pillars is the best modern RTwP CRPG. Most of the people who say it sucks just hate RTwP or are comparing it to Baldurs Gate 2 (the pinnacle of the genre).

If daddy is used to RTwP and isn't going to spend the entire time comparing it in detail to what he played in the late '90s, early '00s then it is a perfectly good choice.
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>>379590008
>Baldurs Gate 2 (the pinnacle of the genre).
It's hard to be the pinnacle of the RPG genre when you're a h&s shitfest, m8.
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>>379590008
There are too many casuals on /v/ that hate RTwP and are only ok with it when it's the easiest shit to cheese, like in BG 2
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Pillars of Eternity is the best RTwP RPG ever
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>>379590008
>>379591368
Funny, I rarely see anyone complain about the combat beside it being repetitive and pointless, the main issues are the writing being garbage, bugs, pointless and half-assed features (the fort) and (hilariously) complete lack of balance where you have one or two spells per class that completely outclass everything else and turn every fight into just using those.

But yea, leave it to retarded fanfucks to make up an imaginary problem that they can then easily dismiss.
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>>379592195
The stronghold is pretty good now. You sound like someone who played the game back when it was in 1.00
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>>379592326
Rather than just making an empty statement, why not actually give some substance?

I mean who the fuck are you talking to? What do you hope to accomplish with what you're doing? Think about these things before typing out such crass drivel.
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>>379592490
Is this a copypasta?
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>>379592630
Whichever excuse works, eh?

Meanwhile, still nothing.
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>>379592715
If it wasn't a copy-pasta, you should turn it into one, it's pretty funny. The irony in it is hilarious. You can apply it to any post you want and it works just as well.
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>>379592845
It's sad that your experience with posts (presumably mainly your own) leads you to believe they all lack substance.

Hang in there, I guess?
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>>379593198
Rather than just making an empty statement, why not actually give some substance?

I mean who the fuck are you talking to? What do you hope to accomplish with what you're doing? Think about these things before typing out such crass drivel.
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>>379588521
it might seem contrarian hipster faggotry, but this is the truth
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>>379588521
>h&s
What does this stand for?
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I've tried to play this 4 times and it glitches out and breaks every time. Always a game-breaking fuck up that would force me to restart. Fuck this game.
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>>379584489
This, holy shit. If the AI is going to be this retarded just make it fucking turn based. Combat is a chore in this game and the story just isn't good enough to carry it.
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>>379583472
it's good but it's not world changing
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>>379588915
>Darklands
>Real time with pause shit combat

pass
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>>379585647
>retarded companion AI
The game was built to be micromanaged. Even with trivial encounters it's dangerous to just let them all attack and sort it out themselves, you want to pay careful attention to positioning and cooldowns for everyone. Just relying on AI is a quick way to have those wolves break engagement with Eder and eat your back ranks.
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>>379596791
The problem is that it has too many trash mobs.
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>>379597890
Sure, but outside of small pathing issues, AI is not a problem.
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>>379597890
Hopefully, that will be fixed in 2
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>>379595734
Works on my machine
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POE is probably the best definition of a mediocre game i can think of. It has lots of combat options, but nothing vital. It has some compelling story points, but no hook, and just turns into a mess at some point where you can just let your team clean up mob.
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Its really boring as everyone said. Just from the start of it; MC "freaks out" after having a vision of casual nonsense, becomes able to talk to some ghosts and decides to play the game. That can take hour or two if you don't just run though the story. Thats your motive. It sucks. You can speak to specific ghosts in a world populated by basic fantasy monsters. Infact. the first dungeon you get to visit is populated by ghosts, that just attack you.
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>>379595586
hack and slash

gameplay like diablo
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>>379600903
Well that's my 4 to your 1 so you should probably give me a little smooch and a nice massage because I'm the winner.
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>>379601141
I'd say there's a little more to it than that.

>main character almost gets caught in a soul-stealing hurricane
>uncovers some unholy ritual dealing with souls
>discovers that he can now read the souls of people he meets and even see into their past lives including his own
>shortly thereafter he discovers that this condition will cause his own past lives to eventually drive him mad
>begins looking for the cultist responsible for putting this gift/curse on him to remove it
>slowly discovers a plot to steal the souls of all the unborn children and feed them to a God
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Plebs
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>>379602721
And that's without the twist ending
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>>379605376
Thaos did nothing wrong
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Hey
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>>379583472
It's not awful but not good either
Maybe slightly above average
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I played BG1 and 2 for the first time recently and really enjoyed them, so is it safe to say I'd enjoy PoE? The sequel is looking pretty cool so far. Also there's a Monk class that actually seems good which is awesome.
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>>379608287
You'll probably enjoy it. And Monk is fucking awesome. He starts great and only gets even better.
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>>379608287
Yes
See: >>379583738
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>>379583472
Pillars isn't shit at all. It's a pretty well constructed game. It's just kind of has a feeling of..."meh". All the pieces for a good game are there, but it's lacking "soul". It just comes off as bland.

I still would consider it an 8/10 game but I did legitimately fall asleep playing it once. In Dryford village I believe.

>B-but muh white march
White march had better encounter design but the game still felt like a trip to the RPG equivalent of the DMV

>>379586286
>Tank n spank
They reworked the aggo mechanics like a year ago. Enemies will go after lower DR/Deflection targets and will break engagement now
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>>379583472
It's fine for a playthrough if you get it on a nice discount.

It's not really a bad game, just mediocre. The problem is that obshittian claimed it was going to be the spiritual successor to BG2, and it really pales in comparison
>a few good companions, but most are forgettable
>a weak main villain
>can't even join the villain when you confront him even though there is some sense to his plan
>it tries really hard not to be a dungeons and dragons setting, but it falls into the same tropes anyway, just with different names (it's not called a kobold, it's a xaurip! Big fucking whoop)
>bland combat + trash mobs everywhere and no reason to fight them
>itemization is really, really shit. Not many unique items
>most quests are serviceable I guess
>autistic balancing from Jack "Autismo" Sawyer detracted from the fun of some classes.

Probably more to it but it's been a while since I played it
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>>379610639
I strongly disagree with your last point. A lot of classes that were shit at launch have now been changed to be way better, and no class lost its identity. The only stuff that was patched was the most ridiculous glitchy shit. The balance patches made the game better.
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>>379610468
>Enemies will go after lower DR/Deflection targets and will break engagement now
That's why you go with offtank as well. Between two frontliners and a good CC setup nothing aside from some WM encounters and bosses will break tank n spank strategy.
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>>379611112
Maybe we played during a different patch, idk.

I did not enjoy the combat at any rate, perfectly balanced or broken classes, doesn't matter
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>>379611304
>nothing aside from some WM encounters and bosses will break sitting in a chokepoint with your tanks
Ftfy.

The AI doesn't care about your tanks otherwise. They will just beeline for your squishies anytime they can even if they have to eat the disengage attack from 2 tanks and area of effect abilities.
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>>379611501
You kite enough, they give up and stick with the tanks.
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>>379611686
We have different experiences then. I distinctly remember they would chase my wizard halfway across the map even though they couldn't catch up.

But neither could the rest of my party so that was kinda a retarded fight.
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>>379611686
The AI will only switch targets if your movespeed is higher or equal and it knows it can't catch you. Otherwise it will just run you down to the ends of the earth.
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>>379583738
you also need to hide conversation qualifiers so it's not all retarded like new vegas
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is PoE better than PoE?
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>>379612848
Nah. PoE is way better.
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>>379613912
Ignore this fag. Clearly PoE is better.
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>>379589557
Cleared the highest difficulty solo on the release version.
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>>379608287
PoE is like a really, really shitty version of BG. You'll be extremely disappointed.
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>>379583738
>he played over 400 hours in one of the most shallow RPGs made in the past 15 years

Incredible.
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>>379614370
Nah. He'll have a good time because he's not a hipster like you.
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>>379588856
The picture literally says it's dungeon crawlers. Funnily enough, PoE is way closer to Icewind Dale than Baldur's Gate so he's kinda right.
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>>379590008
>if you haven't played these hundreds of superior games then it might not seem as shitty!

Pathetic.
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>>379587542
>weeaboo console trash
>crpg
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>>379590008
>Most of the people who say it sucks just hate RTwP or are comparing it to Baldurs Gate 2 (the pinnacle of the genre).

How to spot someone who has no fucking clue about "RTwP".
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>>379614508
BG2 is probably one of the most mainstream cRPGs ever. If you think prefering it is "hipster" than you're literally a CoD hyping dudebro.
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>>379583472
Of course, get it. To play a barbarian optimally you need to run around naked with a magic wand in your urethra and put all your stat points in perception or something.
Why would you want a game where making a powerful character feels good? Buy PoE.
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>>379615493
Fuck off, D&Dbabby

>Waaaah why do I actually have to think about character creation? WHY ARE THERE NO DUMP STATS!?
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>>379614464
I played 400 hours of a great RPG that stands on the top of the mountain of modern RPGs. Inb4 you shill for shit like Divinity: Original Meme or Age of Boringness.
The only RPGs I played that could be mentioned in the same sentence as Pillars were Dragonfall and Underrail.
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>>379615993
I like games where I need to think about character creation, not games where I look and feel like a retard if I min/max.
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>>379616904
How can you have an opinion on a game you have clearly not even tried?
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>>379617157
I forced myself about halfway through before I quit. There are just better things to do with my time than play a boring-ass game with a stupid plot and an uncreative environment.
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>>379616904
Read:
>I like games where I can easily dismiss dump stats so that I can make my super powerful warrior with no disadvantages
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>>379617507
You don't need to make two different replies to one post, friend.
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>>379617658
I didn't
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>>379587228
well im not bad at it so no , you shitter
and if someone says something i ignore it because im not a fag
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>>379583472
Literally ever game on gog gets shill reviews saying it's the best game ever
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>>379618967
Not on metacritic, though
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>>379617658
Good way to dodge addressing the fact you're a scrub
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>>379602498
I had two playthroughs :^)
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>>379621372
Well then just the kiss you stuffy cunt
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WARNING

DO NOT BUY THIS GAME

THIS IS NOT A GAME

THIS IS A BOOK

STAY AWAY UNLESS YOU WANT A DIGITAL NOVEL
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>>379602721
The beginning is the biggest contrived nonsensical mess I have ever seen.

>you are fleeing [background]
>now you are sick
>now you are not
>suddenly tribal shitters out of nowhere kill everyone
>oh shit, soul storm!!! everyone else dies
>whoo, would you look at that, a dark cultist ritual just happens to be taking place right here right now
>and what a coincidence, it's done by a guy who you know from a previous life! have a vision

All within the first 20 fucking minutes. It's like they had a full page of ideas how to start the game from a brainstorming session, and then couldn't decide on one so they just went "fuck it, let's do ALL OF THEM'.

And this is still by far the best part of the story.
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>>379623145
The tribals are there because it's an Engwithan area

The soul storm happens BECAUSE of the ritual that also makes sense to be in that area

>And this is still by far the best part of the story.
No it isn't
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>>379623375
Except there are other identical rituals later in the game, but no soul storms. Nothing in the game proves that the two are connected in any way. It's speculation at best.

And tribals jumping on you because you are using an established caravan route near a ruin, while you have zero intention of actually going into said ruin is fucking idiotic. Oh yeah, you had to camp near it.

Because it was dark and a fucking tree just happened to fall on the road. I should have added that part to the list.

Besides, that's not the point. You can explain everything if you really want (except the sickness and the tree), it won't make the execution any less of a fucking contrived mess.
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>>379623375
The storm does not happen because of the ritual as far as I remember.

Regardless he's right, there's so many convenient things happening all at once in short succession
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>>379624082
It's not contrived at all. I like you arguing against yourself in your own post, though. Doing my job for me.
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>>379624284
>It's not contrived at all.

Care to explain how?
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>>379624082
>And this is still by far the best part of the story.
I call bullshit on this
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>>379624893
He's exagerating a little but the game drags on SIGNIFICANTLY from that point on until about the last third part of the game where things are finally explained to you about what the fuck has been going on.

I can't blame who stopped playing before that happened though. The main quest was boring as shit until then.
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>>379624893
I should probably say the most gripping part of the story. It's the part that players generally all tend to enjoy. Likely in part because they expect that things are going to make sense later, partly because they still don't know what to expect from the rest, but very few players outright hate the first few hours of the game.
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>>379625159
The most griping part of the story is Act 3 IMO
Oh, and White March, of course, but I'm not counting the expansions
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>>379625825
You shouldn't have to play for like 8 fucking hours before it gets interesting.

It's simply bad storytelling. I wanted to drop the game so many times.
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>>379625825
Act 3 has its moments, but it fails its own premise. It should be a race to catch up with Thaos who headed straight to the final dungeon after the end of Act 2, but the game throws stupid amounts of content at you. You have time to solve every single tiny dispute in the Glanfathan city, but not only that, also travel back to Gilded Vale and deal with Raedric's ghost if you killed him. Which by in-game travel time is, what, a week?

All while the story informs you that apparently you have reached a point where you can basically no longer even sleep. So there should be a pressure to finish things up, but there is absolutely no sense of urgency there.

Would have worked better if Act 2 was about getting political support to get you into Twin Elms, and then the whole Thaos public reveal and shit happened at the end of Act 3, with a quick god support gaining pushed to the beginning of Act 4. Or something.

White March 1 was imo magnitudes more boring than anything in the base game, things only pick up with the WM 2 starting dream.
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>>379626903
Eh, that kind of stuff doesn't bother me in RPGs. I don't want time limits.
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>>379626409
>You shouldn't have to play for like 8 fucking hours before it gets interesting.

Nigga, the first huge chunk of Baldur's gate was just you wandering through the wildnerness with some vague, impersonal goals.
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>>379627073
BG1 wasn't that great anyway.
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>>379627238
Agreed. It just rides on BG2's coat tails
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>>379583472
just (re)play IE games and dont waste your time
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>>379627238
BG2 had a really boring story too, though
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>>379627503
Replaying games is for suckers
I'd rather play through another 6/10 than replay a 10/10 I already exhausted
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>>379627238
>>379627430
>>379627525
Why are 3 underage reddit enthusiasts talking about games they have never played? Really joggin my noggin.
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>>379627503
>Why would you ever play new games when you can just replay the same game you've already played 5 times?

/vr/ was a mistake
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>>379627032
It's not an issue of time limit, just very poor distribution of content.

Unlike Gilded Vale that has a very pressing situation with Raedric, and Defiance Bay that has a refugee crisis and mounting discontent that is about to escalate, Twin Elms doesn't have anything going on. It exists in its own little bubble unaffected by the outside world, which contributes to the almost sleepy feel of the place. Like nothing really matters, just take your town, we can wait.

It would have been easy to work Twin Elms into the story. They haven't been affected by the Hollowborn plague, so it would have been the most natural thing in the world for the duc or someone else to send you there to investigate and maybe stop the shitstorm that is about to get unleashed in Defiance Bay.
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>>379627792
BG1 was shit mate. Remove your nostalgia goggles.

The combat is crap because low level d&d combat is fucking aids. The pacing is completely off. The main story is nothing to write home about.
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>>379627792
I've played through BG2 with tactics, SCS, and ascension so many times that it's not even funny. Go oldfag signal somewhere else and actually try replaying games instead of jacking off to nostalgia.

I bet you think KOTOR is the pinnacle of star wars games as well.
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>>379627996
>low level d&d combat is fucking aids

yeah, but it's better than high level d&d combat at least
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>>379610468
>Pillars isn't shit at all. It's a pretty well constructed game.

Yes it is. In fact it's so well constructed and designed it pretty much plays itself as there are no bad choices to be made. Everything is viable. All numbers are balanced. All effects are interchangable. Player's interaction with the game might as well come down to pressing party abilities on cooldowns/resource gain.

This is a system which was designed not to be fun but to be perfect. While very impressive on paper it makes for an incredibly shallow gaming experience.
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Real Time ith Pause is outdated
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>Wow this game is too easy
>Wow, this game plays itself
>WTF WHY DO MY MAGES NOT DESTROY ENTIRE ENCOUNTERS BY THEMSELVES?
>WTF I ACTUALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHICH STATS TO USE AND NOT JUST GET EASY GUIDELINES WHERE I IGNORE STATS DEPENDING ON WHAT CLASS I PLAY?
>YOU HAVE TO MICRO-MANAGE TOO MUCH OR YOU LOSE, ITS BORING
Durrrrrrrrrrrrrr
There's no winning with you faggots
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>>379628845
>multiple people have multiple opinions
lmaoing at obsidrones
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>>379628845
>>WTF WHY DO MY MAGES NOT DESTROY ENTIRE ENCOUNTERS BY THEMSELVES
But they do though.

You just have to rest after every second battle.
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Don't buy it, the lore is trash, the story is trash and the gameplay is utter trash.
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>>379628971
and then stop to complain about resting
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>>379628845
Don't forget
>Classes are too well balanced, I want to be OP
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>>379629145
>there are too many useful attributes, I prefer having 3 useless attributes to dump so every build is exactly the same
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>>379628845
>>379629145
>>379629342
>WHY DO BARBARIANS IMPROVE WITH HIGH INTELLIGENCE? THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETE FUCKING RETARDS!!!
This is the one that bothers me the most. Fuck D&D babies.
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>>379629145
Some imbalance isn't bad and spices thing up. If everything is perfectly balance then everything just becomes expected and boring.

Who wants to obtain the long lost epic sword of fuckery that is made from the crystalized agony of a 100 lost souls only to find out that it's the same as a regular sword you can buy from a store except that it has a 5% chance to do something on a critical hit?
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>>379629071
Not true
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>>379628649
Let us have one fucking game with the system. Everything else is already turn based. You won. Accept your victory.
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>>379630324
>Who wants to obtain the long lost epic sword of fuckery that is made from the crystalized agony of a 100 lost souls only to find out that it's the same as a regular sword you can buy from a store except that it has a 5% chance to do something on a critical hit?
In a balanced game, you get that same sword of fuckery that is just as good as it seems, but its effective use is limited to characters who have built themselves in a particular way.
And even then, no item should ever be so powerful as to trivialize encounters which are supposed to be difficult.

There is no such thing as a game that's too balanced.
There is such a thing as a game that plays things too safe, and that's what you should be complaining about.
If you just want to be overpowered and never engage with the deeper mechanics of the game then play on easy or turn on cheats.
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>>379627978
I think that may be why Twin Elms is my favorite area of the game and the last third of the game is my favorite part. It's super comfy.
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>>379622573
If you think PoE is a book, then don't play the new Torment
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The thing I liked about PoE is that they made Druids pretty good compared to the one we had in BG
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>>379633952
Well, I'm just saying it would flow better if it was simply organized differently.

Basically
>do quests in Defiance Bay
>meet duc
>go to Twin Elms and do their quests to investigate the situation there
>return to Defiance Bay
>animancy hearing and riots happen
>return to Twin Elms
>do the God quest(s)
>go to Sun in Shadows

So no real change in the actual content, just organized in a way that doesn't fuck with the urgency of the duc assassination and chasing Thaos.
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>>379635601
Same here, in D&D Druids are a one useful spell per level class (insect swarm etc) while in Pillars they are more well rounded
Also shape shifting is actually useful whether you build around it or not, either as an emergency melee form or as a specialised rape machine
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>>379636663
Can I ignore spiritshift and go full caster with the elements/bonus spells talents?
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>>379637131
Yeah
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>>379637215
Is it good though?
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I had quite a bit of fun at the start but at one point I just realised how shit the combat was and it feels like torture trying to continue now.
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>>379637131
>>379637625
I normally play druid and I go full caster, make sure you get the talent which boosts lightning damage, the storm spells are incredibly useful
Prioritise might and intellect, then pick dexterity or perception as your third best stat, as there are benefits to both
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>>379637963
>make sure you get the talent which boosts lightning damage
Are the other one worth taking? Don't remember seeing good corrode or ice spells but maybe fire
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>>379638720
That's correct, Druid has a few good fire spells but most of their spells are physical based
It's worth getting a few defense talents as you won't have much health, either use a ranged weapon (low level) or weapon and shield (higher level)
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>>379637863
The combat is great, though
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>yfw it's the three druid ogre episode
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>>379641196
It might just be me, because I always seem to get burnt out from RTwP games, the only exception being Icewind Dale.
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what's a good RPG with a good amount of customization?
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