Can someone explain to me why this game is supposed to be good?

>>379522024
If you have to ask you'll never understand.

It wasn't that popular when it came out either. Why don't you just go ahead and join that old crew?

>>379522114
So it's objectively shit and I've been tricked by memeing nostalgiafags, OK thanks.

>>379522449
I don't understand nuclear physics, that doesn't mean they're not real. You don't understand what makes dmc great and that's ok too.

There's a nice simplicity to it

>>379522024
git gud

>>379522024
I agree with you on the shitty camera but everything else is not true.

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Because it feels like a fucking anime.
[pic related is better anyway

>>379522449
>>379522024
haven't even played the game but I can tell that you're a cancerous faggot.

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>>379522024
>not the fun kind of retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qG4AlK1qk

>>379522024
t. 9 years old

>>379522024
>Can someone explain to me why this game is supposed to be good?
Play literally any 3D action game released before DMC, then play DMC.

But that's probably not good enough, is it?

>shitty camera
Sure. Although how much of it is intentional to sneak attack you because DMC is vaugely a horror game and how much is just not knowing any better is debateable.

>bad enemy design
In what way? If you mean visuals that's subjective, if you mean gameplay that's very very wrong. Every enemy has a ton of moves, dynamic AI and lots of ways that your moves can interact with them. Read the little enemy descriptions in the menu and see all the shit they can do.

>cutscenes are retarded, and not the fun kind of retarded
Then press the start button.

>character is slow as shit when locking on
This is intentional.

>entire gameplay is just memorizing attack patterns and hoping that you do a roll instead of a jump because it's nearly impossible to tell which it will be
>all enemies are damage sponges
So you're bad at the game? Both rolling and jumping are dodges so it barely even matters (especially since most of the time jumping is more effective)

I genuinely believe that the latest DMC was an improvement to the series, no bait.

>>379525107
how

>>379522024
It isn't. I got the HD collection to give the games a try, and dmc1 was awful.

This game was literally the first of its kind, what do you expect? Of-course is gonna age bad, especially on such weak-ass hardware like the PS2 that made game look even worse than the Dreamcast even though it was supposed to be the stronger system.

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>>379527934
>This game was literally the first of its kind, what do you expect?
No, this was

>>379526498
I mean, there were things I very much disliked, like not implementing the old Dante's stances and being easy as fuck until the swordsman enemy, but Ninja Theory really nailed it on the artstyle.
The stages, along with the soundtrack, fit in nicely and even though the combat has been dumbed down for shit, it had very organized imputs.

>>379529197
Jesus Christ, you're a fucking dumbass.

Go play 3 & 4, those are the CUHRAYZEE fun as fuck games.

>>379522449
This person is obviously just the shitposting garbage loser type.

>SO YOU ARENT GOING TO ARGUE WITH ME AND TRY TO PROVE MY SHIT OPINIONS WRONG? HAHA OKAY I WIN IT SUCKS

>>379522024
it's fun to play

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>>379529197
Nice attepmt

THE FLINCH IN YOUR EYE

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>>379530476
CALLS YOUR BLUFF

>>379522024
tameem pls

>>379530856
FEEL FREE TO DIE

>>379529197
>organized imputs
GEEZ Donte! Why do you get TWO dodge buttons!?!?

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>>379530350
I'm not attempting anything, that were my legit thoughts about the game. Is it that hard for you fags to look at the good aspects of the game instead of whine about everything in it?

>>379529197
Bait or moron?

>>379531193
Some people press the bump and trigger buttons with only the index fingers. The two dodge buttons are there so you can dodge if you're using any weapon class.

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>>379531374
yes

>>379522024
DMC1 is super dated and is actually worse than DMC2. The difference is that DMC1 was fucking amazing at the time it came out, while DMC2 has the helicopter.

>>379525107
Yeah, playing as Lady was great. Hope she makes it into the next one too.

>>379531785
The fact that you have to keep the triggers held to access your other forms is retarded in the first place though. The two dodge buttons is a fix to a problem that didn't need to be there, so don't talk about "organized inputs" when the basic control layout is fundamentally flawed.

>>379532152
Not even trying desu

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>>379531374
What good aspects? The atmosphere? The only game that went all in on the atmosphere is DMC1 and that's the reason it's still regarded as one of the better DMC games. The music? Only DMC 1 and 3 have memorable songs. People don't play these games for those things despite them adding to the whole package. People play them for the combat which is the main flaw and offense DmC has.

How can you say DmC was an improvement to the series when it neutered the main draw of the series?

>>379532489
>Only DMC 1 and 3 have memorable songs.
the times come and so have i

>>379532484
Dude, 1 is super janky and stiff compared to all the other games. It gets a pass because it was the first one in the series.

2 has PLENTY of problems but paved the way for 3 by putting more combat techniques in.

>>379532295
I didn't think this combat design was that bad since you get to build some eyecandy mixups with it but I'd be lying if I told you I don't miss the old pad-toggle styles.

>>379533048
Stiff or not it's actually a well designed game with top notch enemies and bosses and one of the better dmd modes, unlike the shitheap that is 2

>>379532489
And why is the combat so bad for you now?

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>>379531051
WHEN YOU'VE HAD ENUFF

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>>379522024
it aged like milk. For it's time it was a massive step-up in the genre and should only really be replayed for nostalgia/history's sake.

>>379524156
BRAVO MIYAZAKI

the fixed camera angle is bad but my biggest gripe is that you cant cancel out of moves. other than that, i still like it.

DMC1 has one of the best atmospheres of all time.

>>379534079
>>379534475
Just a reminder that the first one was supposed to be more like the early Resident Evil games. The fixed camera angle was there to make jump scares more effective.

Combat-wise, I still think it holds up pretty well, but the game is hard as balls for the most part.

>>379535079
>but the game is hard as balls for the most part.
This holy fuck, I tried it a week ago and was seriously too fucking casual for it. That black thing that shoots spikes out at you at the fountain where you put the Lion Head destroyed me.
Started playing DMC3 and am having a much better time, just beat Nevan.

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Glad to see the DMC3babbies have all been coming out of the woodwork lately to give DMC1 a try. As usual though, all this blaming the game because fags would rather perceive it as dated instead of gitting gud haha, cassies.

>>379535250
You mean the dark knight or the shadow doggies?

I stopped at the dark knight and then my memory card corrupted itself since I still have the first edition PS2 and it's showing symptoms of dementia.

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>>379535720
This thing.

>>379535815
Man, this is the first casual filter in the whole game. You should really get good since that thing isn't even that hard.
How are you faring in DMC3 and are you playing the special edition, normal edition and on what difficulty?

>>379536190
Vanilla edition on Normal, the only real trouble I had was with Agni and Rudra but I eventually got them, the hardest part of the fight was the camera honestly.
I'll definitely go back to DMC but I am having a blast with DMC3 so I'd like to finish this first. I've been told that the Vergil fight at the end is better than the Azel fight in God Hand so I'm looking forward to that.

>>379536369
Vergil fights are god-tier in that game, but you will hate the last segment before the end.
It's a defeat all the bosses in a single run, die and start again edition.

>>379536558
Is this one of those games that tanks in the second half? I just finished chapter 10 and I know there's 20 chapters, is the good stuff all behind me?
Also do I have to fight the Gigapede again in that section, that fight was awful.

>>379536779
The game holds up pretty well for the entire ride, in my opinion, so just bear with it and decide for yourself.

As for the centipede, yes.

>>379536779

You don't have to fight all the bosses. There's a big board with lights on it, and different colored portals that match the lights. When you enter a portal and beat a boss, the light that matches it on the board lights up. You have to complete any cycle of lights on the board.

TL;DR: you get some options about which bosses you want to fight again.

>>379522024

OP was born probably the time when the game came out.

>>379536976
You can skip like 3 bosses, IIRC, so I'd suggest fighting Gigapede again since it's pretty easy compared to say, Agni and Rudra.

>>379537247
>>379536976
>not fighting all of the bosses again
Fucking
casuals.

>>379532775
this

>>379536558
except you don't have to beat them all (to a minimum of 3) and you get healing items between the fights

>>379537350
What makes you think I didn't?

>>379537247

Yeah but the difference is gigapede is fucking boring and A&R are royal guard heaven.

>>379522024
>>bad enemy design

Enemy design is great. Puppets are like Zombies. black cats are the coolest shit ever. Lightning dude. Ice Reptile. Glaidator reptile men. What else do you want?

>>379537590
>Yeah but the difference is gigapede is fucking boring
Yeah this is the reason I hated the fight, it's by far the easiest of all the ones I've done except for maybe the Leviathan one.

>>379537476
>using items
>in DMC3
What are you, a casual?

But besides the point, Gigapede is probably the easiest of them all aside from Cerberus.
>>379537590
I never really got into Royal Guard since my reflexes were shit and I didn't want to waste time learning movesets.

I've been playing a bunch of DMC4SE lately. Other than the Vergil fights, why do people prefer DMC3 to this?

>>379537784
Probably because its not only about gameplay.

>>379537784
Mostly because you can play Dante through the whole game and the second half of the game isn't the same levels over again.
More bosses, better enemies and if you have it on PC with the style mod, it's overall the better game.
Oh, and the story makes more sense and the characters are fleshed out properly.

>>379537784
Better story/atmosphere, less reused content and nostalgia

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>>379537895
>Game's not only about gameplay

>>379537478
Good point.

>>379537784
Doesn't overstay its welcome
You unlock stuff more often
Body surfing
Better bloody palace
Better atmosphere
Better story
And apparently there's a mod to add style switching, the one thing 4fags get to tout

>>379537735

Royal Guard's weird since they only give you the babby version of it at rank 2. Once you can Royal Guard in the air it's easy though. You just jump, which gives you a bunch of i-frames, then RG. You either block or you were too late in which case you have i-frames.

Once you learn the timing from doing that you don't have to jump anymore. It really is the most fun style for me though.

>Jumping into sealed doors to get the hand to come out so you can RG it for that JUST

>>379538008
>>379538012

Good points, but I remember DMC3 also being an offender when it came to backtracking and reusing content. Also, the enemy variety aside from bosses was particularly bad.

>>379535394
>some casual fag mentions DMC sucks
>claims it's a DMC3babby every time

Like clockwork. What's with DMC1 and their inferiority complexes? This ain't soulshit, both games can be good.

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>>379538716
This is how it goes in DMC4
>Start game as babbyboy
>go to church, then cathedral, then forest, then bad guy HQ, get your shit kicked in and do all of that over with Dante with the same bosses, no less.
This is how it goes in DMC3
>Start game as Dante
>Go through streets, then first floor of tower, then climb tower, get to the top, fight Vergil, get your shit kicked in, get eaten alive, kill Leviathan by slicing it's heart, get back in, climb back to the "top", fight vergil again, and so on.
In DMC4, you literally do the same thing over again with another character. There's an actual reason in DMC3 to revisit those places.

Enemy variety isn't that large, but at least it's better than in DMC4, which had like 6 enemies in total.

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>>379538716
I don't mind backtracking when it's a short trek to unlock a door or whatever but DMC4 is literally just going backwards through the whole game again without even trying to be subtle about it.

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>>379539305
>>379539365
>YFW DMC5 is actually finished and continues from to evolve the gameplay from 4

>>379522024
>>and hoping that you do a roll instead of a jump because it's nearly impossible to tell which it will be

Moving horizontally = roll
Moving vertically = jump

>all enemies are damage sponges

Of course. How else would you be able to do your sick combos if they died in just a few strikes?

Maybe you should stick to Dark Souls

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>>379522024
So this is the new meme on how to make DMC threads? Can't we just make comfy, constantly at death's bed threads instead of baiting for replies?

Anyway, Ninja Gaiden

>all these contrarian retards agreeing with OP
>muh dated
>muh aged like milk
>muh cawmbos
>muh 3

You people make me want to throw up, were you even alive when this game came out?

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>>379540313
>Made a genuine cuhrayzee thread yesterday
>3 replies before it died

>Some autist makes that bait post with the DMC4 webm
>300 replies

>>379538825
They look so fucking bad, the panting made them look so much cooler.

>>379522449
No. You just have shit taste but you will never be able to admit it to yourself. You will only play for immediate gratification and streamed lined games that are the same, never try to understand why people enjoy what they like just because it's different from what you're used to.

Stick to God of War, I'm sure it'll be more to your liking.

dmc3se > dmc3 > dmc4se > dmc4 > dmc dmc:dmc 60fps edition > dmc:dmc > dmc 2

>>379535815
This is literally one of the best designed enemies in video game history. I would only improve it by prolonging the solid phase.

at the time of its release it was better than most other games out at the time.

>>379538749
Because it's the fucking truth. DMC3 was a reboot of the series designed to appeal to dudebro casuals.

Exibit A: >>379535250

>>379537680
This, the rest of the series pales in comparison

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>>379541147
Dr. Vergil to the maternity ward. Dr Vergil to the maternity ward. We have a DMC3 baby emergency.

>>379522024
The major problem with you child cucks going back to play PS1-PS2 era games with only experience of the new generation of games is that you don't understand how before this, there wasn't much of anything better. You complain about slow character movement and locking on but it was lightning fast in comparison. You complain about fixed camera angles but you don't understand it was made that way to allow more detail in the background due to technical limits.

You're spoiled that's all it is. Spoiled by 60fps, motion-captured, HD, DLC bloated, triple AAA clusterfuck games. I can be nostalgic because I can appreciate all the positive aspects of these games while looking past the technical flaws.

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>>379522024
>bad enemy design
You fucking take it back this instant. I love the fact that enemy quirks and attacks get added to the bestiary as you experience them, and I fucking love the Shadow.

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>>379541243
Kamiya's games have the best designed enemies.

I liked it and I played it for the first time in January, fuck off OP. DMC3 was even better though.

>>379542590
>Shitnetta

lol no

got one of the old ones for pc but it was a console port so i couldnt play it

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>>379522024

Because your stupid ass made this stupid fucking thread in June 2017,about a game made in 2001.

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>>379535815
>>379541243
>those opening notes of its theme song

>>379542867
Let me guess, you prefer when every enemy is an easily juggleable punching bag.

>>379543486
The theme adds a lot to the fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz7U9Ga5v5Y

>>379522024
If you're just playing it then you'll never understand why.

It was praised because:

>setting is fucking cool
>art design is cool, music is cool
>Capcom was doing a lot of fixed camera games, people who were following them and playing each one didn't find the camera that problematic because they adapted for it
>fun balance of exploration and combat like most Capcom games then
>enemy design, again, not problematic
>combat is nuanced and requires some memorization, doesn't feel like a button masher at all (you're shit at mixing up attacks if anything is a damage sponge to you)

Overall really fun, the other DMC games didn't surpass it.

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>>379543949
>Just praised Shadow
>Le juggle punching bag scrub!!!


1- What the fuck is wrong with you?
2- Guess again

>>379544182
This gentlemen is correct in all his assessments.

>>379522582
Btfo

>>379525107
Holy shit anon, I thought I was alone

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>>379544971
>Praise Shadow
>Doesn't like Grace and Glory which are the same thing but better

>>379546141
How are they the same thing? What the fuck ARE you reading?