What the fuck went so horribly wrong? Why is everything so dumbed

>see the mark on your hand is considered evil and people are on the look out for it
>don't wear any gloves and is asking to get noticed

Right there.

It's more story driven. While first Bioshock was more about themed, carefully crafted levels with little narrative and lots of backstory that you're fed through audio logs and messages, Infinite is more COD-like.

>>379514349
It was a M night shamoshlongs take on Dr. who story + COD.

>>379514349
To this day I have never understood how someone can get to the "twist" in this game and not just think its fucking stupid and tired. Who the fuck is wowed by a shitty parallel universe plot with horrendously poorly executed themes.

>>379514495
Not at
>Wait a minute t h a t c a r d.

>5 minute cutscene
>10 minute easy mode shooting basically be as shit as you want you'll still make it

fucking hate the new tier games

>>379514997
BAZINGA

>>379514349
>dumbed down
The argument of bitter /v/irgins.

>>379515237
>Maps are linear and have almost nothing to do other than get to next point.
>Two weapons system
>Upgrades exist but are nearly useless because two weapon system and limited ammo.
>Hacking removed

>>379515237
how was it not dumbed down compared to bioshlock 2 ken?

It was a piece of shit, you can only carry 2 guns and are bombarded with sjw nonsense

>>379515451
Hahahahah oh my fucking god, cant believe I just read that

I got high as fuck and played this casually. I enjoyed it on its own, as a Bioshock game it's absolute shit tho.

>>379515753
I know being wrong is hard, it happens to us all.

>>379514997

Point out the stupid card scene is too easy, might as well pick something equally asinine, but not as obvious.

>>379515451
It doesn't fucking matter if the game is still fun to play. If you're gonna get all autistic that it isn't exactly the same as the games previous, you can jolly well fuck off back to whatever grotto you crawled out of and jack it to Morrowind, or whatever overrated past-gen shit you push.

Because Bioshock was not lauded for its gameplay. Hence they focused on the story, whether you think the story is shit or not.

It wasn't hard to understand 4 years ago, it isn't now.

>>379515846
>Im right because I say so

Never change /v/

>>379514349
i dont care what /v/irgins say, this is one of the greatest games ever made

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>>379514349
>When E3 was over, Irrational tried to get the demo running on consoles. Until then, most development had taken place on high-end PCs that could handle everything being dreamed up. The final game, however, had to ship on the rapidly aging PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

>“Due to memory constraints, it was like…uh oh,” laughed Elliott. “This is not going to happen.”


http://kotaku.com/the-real-stories-behind-e3-s-glossy-game-demos-1710169104

CONSOLES

The setting was uninspired as fuck, unless you're an Americuck or Biblethumper there's literally nothing interesting about seeing a bunch of shitty statues and lame gardens of presidents and having the characters go "Oh yeah, we worship him."

>>379516034
>You're wrong because I say so
Never change /v/

>>379515916
>It doesn't fucking matter if the game is still fun to play
That's it though, it wasn't. It was repetitive and boring .

>>379516034
>/v/ is one person.
>>379515916
>Implying what you find fun is relevant
I could find filling in bubbles on an Excel sheet fun, does that make it a great game?

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>>379516103
>>379516034
>>379515237
samefaging this hard

>>379515753
Nice argument.

Someone post that image with a list of everything wrong with Infinite. The one with Jay looking dumbfounded in the background.

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>>379514736
I don't think that having a more active story was an inherently bad idea. But I really wish they had stuck with the original idea of making the world a bit more strange and terrifying, rather than a run-and-gun through endless streams of gun-toting mooks.

Not to mention that the world is still alive and populated, but you still can't really interact with people beyond shooting them or eating out of their garbage cans.

>>379514349
Because they scrapped/reworked a bunch of stuff with like 6 months left to release (or so they say, could be an excuse).

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>>379514349
https://youtu.be/VdNhwb7iuI4

>>379516157
I never said you were wrong, I think its funny thst out of all the things bioshock did right you had mention the hacking minigame

>>379516239
Kill yourself

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>>379516239

>>379516226
I'd say fun is pretty fucking relevant to a game, oldfag.

>>379516219
So was Bioshock 2, but you faggots loved it because loli waifu

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>>379516509
>Being this mad people dont like your shit taste in games

>>379516509
They did the hacking minigame right in BS2. They didn't have to remove that.

>>379515237
>>379515753
>>379515916
>>379515942
>>379516103
>>379516157
sup Ken?

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>>379516531
>p-people dont like a game I suck off!

>>379516825
>Everyone who disagrees with /v/ is Todd Howard

>>379516910
Not an argument

>>379516618
I dont even know what are you talking about honestly

>>379516643
A minigame wouldnt have changed anything, infinite has way worse problems than that

>>379516983
>Pretend you have arguments but, just insult people who dont like you shit taste.
>Say not an argument

>>379516531
>So was Bioshock 2, but you faggots loved it because loli waifu
No, I've always said Bioshock is overrated.

>>379517189
How about I don't give a shit about what the hivemind thinks and I just play what's fun?
Cry all you want, faggot.

>>379517074
>I dont even know what are you talking about

because you cant English very well

>>379514997
I'll never understand how you idiots turned 'that card' into such a massive meme. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that scene.

>Booker receives a briefcase filled with a bunch of shit
>leafs through the contents for a moment
>see the card amongst everything else
>goes back to the task at hand
>arrives at the lighthouse
>gets to the top
>see the bells with the symbols he saw a few moments ago on the card

That's fucking it.

>>379516118

gee good thing Bioshock came out on XBOX360 like a fucking decade ago, and manages to be a better video game in almost every conceivable way

what a joke

>>379516103

Go play fucking Prey you stupid faggot, it's about 1000% better then Infiniteshit, if you still think Infinite is a better game then your brain is broken.

>>379514495
>wearing a glove like a bitch instead of fucking murdering everyone
you're a beta faggot... jesus christ.

>>379517340

reddit madfag

>>379517404
Because the game is using excessive hand-holding through an infant-tier puzzle

>>379514349
they fucked up along the way and had to scale everything down

> Levine stated in a 2016 interview that the stress of managing Infinite's development had affected his health and personal relationships, and rather than stay on to lead an even larger BioShock game, opted to depart from it.

some horrible shit went down during that time and he had to pack up and leave

>>379517585
It's not a puzzle and never presents itself as one. It's just the intro of the game before you even reach the city.

>>379517449
/v/irgins are compulsive liars, so I'll avoid Prey.

>>379517646
RETARD ALERT
>A puzzle is a game, problem, or toy that tests a person's ingenuity or knowledge.

>>379516503
This should just end every biosuck infinite thread

>>379516136
Your fucking dumb if the one thing your gonna attack out of the whole game is the setting and scenery.

the gameplay was too much focused on action and graphics, other bioshock games had good combat but mostly focused on the environment.
But no other franchise can beat the SFM-porn coming from this game

>>379517778
Elizabeth may have pioneered the SFM porn craze, and god bless her for that, but she's not top dog anymore.

>>379517895
SFM was getting big at the time and she just happened to be a cute vidya girl at the time

no one cares about eliz nowadays

>>379514950
The worst thing is the story was fine until the "really makes you think" meme ending

>>379516503
I've never wanted to kill someone so much just based on the tone of their voice...

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>>379514349
Levine had a different idea in mind for Infinite entirely (at least after displeasure with how Rapture-y the darker deaf-Liz beta was) and between console-constraints, team firing-&-rehiring and inability to stay on one idea, was forced to dumb said new idea down into a 6-month last-minute redo.

First two videos are the proof of concept, the third is basically what we'd have had they waited another gen for something like this (and make Bioshock 3 or something in the meantime).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZq6Pujbc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snDNJdmSSHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=attvYJb6xn8

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>>379518520
I feel that way about Joe rogan but, leprechauns dont trigger me like that.

Would have been interesting if they had stayed with it being a more open world concept, with more interactions with the citizenry of Columbia.

I enjoyed the story though even with the convoluted ending

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>>379518627
I really loved how it looked in the second video.

The way that the city and its people are clearly going mad, but it keeps the bright and idealistic environment, with non-linear interactions determining how certain people react to you.

>>379518627

I think it was a smart decision to make it so the player started in a non-destroyed columbia: those artillery turrets would have been pretty great though, wish they had kept those

>What the fuck went so horribly wrong?
Nothing went wrong, what the fuck is wrong with you?
>Why is everything so dumbed down and streamlined and boring?
Because Irrational learned that all the chaff in Bioshock 1 only made it alow and boring and not very interesting. Also fuck you it's not boring it's amazung. Bioahick 1, THAT was a boring game. Don't even get me started on Bioshock 2!
>It's not even like Bioshock was that complicated.
Lel, if anything, it was overcomplicates. All those RPG elements that amounted to nothing. Only good for pulling the wool over the eyes of people lie you and nothing else.

Infinite simply ditches everything that didn't work in the original game. That's why it's the best game in the series.

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mfw the final boss is Black Lives Matter

Funny that they managed to predict it by two years.

>>379514349
They casualized the gameplay for the call of duty audience
>Beat it on 1999 mode
Could die kinda easy but wasn't that hard
>Play bioshock 1/2 on hardest
It's actually pretty hard

>>379514349
well i think they called it bioshock infinite so you'd understand that it's a spin-off kind of game, so you wouldn't expect it to be the same kind of gameplay/themes as the main series.

i suspect they wanted even more different stuff but it was too ambitious or marketting bullshit got involved so they had to tone it down and it ended up being like a theme park ride version of bioshock.

>>379517404
Because that's the epitome of Bioshock Infinite design - hand holding and on rails "experience" that doesn't let you deviate in a slightest way. You don't get to choose how you're going to solve the puzzle, or remember that you saw the card earlier, or how are you going to kill the boss, or how are you going to clear that area or sneak through it or whatever. Your choices and interaction doesn't matter because you're confined into a box the developers wanted, and you're being given answers to questions before you even ask them. You don't have a moment to think about what the puzzle is about, you have the answer on your screen already.
The whole game is like one huge participation trophy of video games - "you solved the puzzle, look at you! you go big boy!" quality of gameplay.

>dipshits preferring the clunky, overly complex bullshit of Bioshock 1
>some degenerates outright preferring Bioshock 2(!!!)
This thread is a disgrace

>>379522403
>Liking casual of duty gameplay + plasmids over the original
I loved all 3 games but infinite is pleb tier

I just wanted Bioshock that took place in a floating city. Is that so much to ask for?

>>379522391
>Arguing player choice in a linear shooter
I'm sure daddy Ubisoft will wipe those tears away, or rather let you do it with a hedgehog because PLAYER CHOICE AM I RIGHT?

>>379515824
DUDE

>>379522774
>Arguing player choice in a linear shooter
I understand linear shooters, but i'd rather have a choice on how to get around a particular obstacle, or how to defeat an area, or how to interact with something, instead of "hey, choose a choker for me, isn't that choice?!". No, it's not, it's bullshit. Same with the black girl white guy scene.

Infinite is so on-rails, they even got fucking rails in game as a pun, except it didn't work.

>>379523128
And you do. You've got a ton of weapons and vigors and the option to develop yourself in whichever you prefer. Isn't that enough?

>What the fuck went so horribly wrong?
Running out of budget ~30% through the game, probably.

>>379517726
That definition doesn't apply. It's supposed to be immersive for the player to enter the sequence themselves. It's not a fucking puzzle.
/v/ just likes to be autistic about this so they can complain about it.
Infinite is still a shit game, but this is pathetic.

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>>379521618
>mfw the racists ran a nice clean and organized society
>mfw the group of blacks ruin the whole awesome sky city when they take power
>mfw it would have been better if my character would have just left the sky city alone in the first place

>>379524446
You do remember that Comstock was prepping the city for an invasion of America, right?

>>379515824
Same. Did this with fallout 4 too. Autistic virgins will give me (you)s but DUDE WEED sometimes takes a game to a level you can't experience otherwise

>>379524650
If he could have ran America like he did sky city then heaven would truly be a place on earth.

>>379524820
Shut up, /pol/

>>379517404
Because braindead morons were excited at the thought that there was a puzzle even they considered easy, completely missing the fact that the point was not to be a puzzle, but to illustrate that only people in the know could get to Columbia and start to setting up the symbols of scroll, key, and sword.

>>379517726
It doesn't test their ingenuity or knowledge though moron they give you the fucking answer.

>>379524446
Columbia's down fall came from unchecked immigration.

>Booker "degenerate drunk" "criminal" comes in
>helps blacks and other degenerates get more shit + guns
>city turns into standard third world.

>>379517404
Besides what other have already said, it's mostly because of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg

>>379522391
>hand holding and on rails "experience" that doesn't let you deviate in a slightest way
Like the other bioshock games ? People liked those, right ?

>>379526097
I remember /v/ shitting on Bioshock 2 for this exact reason.

>>379526475
Because the hivemind shits on whatever's popular and gives tonguebaths to whatever isn't.

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>>379524650
>A nation with the largest military on earth including jets, nukes, and aircraft carriers.

vs.

>some zepplins and a big bird

>>379527379
>nukes
>19th century
HAHA! I KNEW IT!

>>379527459
They invade in the 80s.

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>>379522403
>overly complex

>>379514349
narration pacing

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>>379514349
>>379514495
>>379514736
>>379514950
>>379515237

>>379526775
That's true, but the hivemind was right in that instance.
Personally, I've never enjoyed any of the Bioshock games, even the first one. Too linear and formulaic for my tastes.

>>379528032
I don't believe you

Because gameplay wise its worse than 2 and story wise it's literally just 2's story but with parallel universes thrown in

>>379528181
Okay?

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Hey look, Booker, Slate AND Comstock were at Wounded Knee

>>379518627
This anon draws a clear picture

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Hey look, again

>>379514736
>lots of backstory that you're fed through audio logs and messages
Like that crazy main antagonist lady in Bioshock 2 who spends her day talking to you on the radio ?

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Hey look, Battleship Bay featuring a poster of the E3 2011 demo's Comstock

wait a minute that game....

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2011 Comstock with the Founding Fathers

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Damn, Finkton looked like THAT?

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And Soldier's Field in the 2011 art style

It's clear the E3 demo was a slice of the game they were making and it all went to shit in 2012, cobbling together a messy, incoherent corridor shooter with assets from all iterations of Columbia, swapping Comstock's characterization from a jingoist who seized power in Columbia through political means, after it seceded from the US, for a religious, manifest destiny zealous demagogue who is also a parallel Booker.

>>379529693
>>379529921
>>379530152
>>379531016
The original theme of the game was amplitudes more interesting than the fucking generic religious isolationism bullshit we got in the final game

idk about you fucks but I was way more interested in the original concept about how Columbia was basically created to demonstrate to the world how successful the American experiment was, only for everything to go to shit when corrupt politicians literally turned the whole fucking city into a warzone

You would have entered columbia during the middle of the conflict as opposed to having to wade through hours of bullshit to finally reach the part that bore some resemblance to the original, but even that wasn't enough.

>>379532263
>>379531016
Fuck, give me original version back !

>>379527639
Ikr, and lets not forget Bioshock itself is already watered down version of SS2. Oh how mighty have fallen. From an Art piece to the CODpiece.

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>>379532263
Yup

The 2010 demo's was cool, though a bit barren. The 2011 demo's Columbia was the game we were sold, I still need to know wtf happened, what the original story was if it was even finished.

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The final game's art wasn't bad, but it felt cobbled together and just less grounded and more cartoony, even though it was always a very fantastical vision. I wanted that Columbia.

>>379534389
Why can't they just make a better version with all the shit they removed?

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If anyone's got any other unused assets please post them I'm still collecting this shit

same circlejerk in every bioshock infinite thread.
>gameplay is bad bla bla
>dumbed down bla bla
>plot is dumb bla bla
can you motherfuckers just sit back and chill some moment? what the fucking point of beating dead horse?
i mean what do you get when you throw shit that game? why do you talk about games you dislike?

>>379534669
I'd honestly take an Infinite 2 that just used the many worlds excuse to deliver on the original Columbia with BioShock's immersive-sim-light mechanics

>>379517340
You can play it and enjoy it all you want you dumb faggot, you're just bitchy that people don't agree with you.
No one is trying to stop you from doing anything.

>>379533519
>I still need to know wtf happened
time constraints and hardware limitations which were their own fault because they had been developing for high end pcs the whole time and only realized it wouldn't run on consoles much later. they scrapped the game as it was and recycled the assets and setpieces for a mediocre shooter.

>>379533519
>The 2011 demo's Columbia was the game we were sold
lolno, not even. That battlefield was 5-10x larger than anything we got in the final version, cutscenes were different and Comstock was still in his non-Santa model.

>>379535853
Yeah but why change the whole tone and story

>>379514349

The troubled development cycle of course.

>>379535964
I would assume that having to cut so much of the game forced them to streamline the story and cut large portions of it or things they had planned.

>>379535939
Sorry that's what I meant, the game we were sold was not the game we got

>>379529921
Heh, that's one I haven't seen yet. Nice.

>>379535964
Levine has George Lucas Syndrome. They scrapped the whole game no less than 5 times before getting to where we're at.

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>>379536734
Got any other rare Infinites?

>>379537120
Yeah. On my old now-dead PC while I still tabbed /bsg/ years back, sorry man.

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>>379537297
Holy cats!

>best gunplay in the series
>most open levels in the series
>allows you to use all vigors instead of just one plasmid
>most guns in the series
>removes shallow pointless "rpg mechanics" and godawful hacking
>is more tactical with money management than the other two games
>best graphics/sounds of the series
>doesn't beat you on the head with its meta-commentary going for a more subtle route
>when it does beat you on the head with something, people STILL don't get it and think there's a plothole
>has a final level that's much better than the final bosses of the previous two games since it's a better test of all game mechanics than either final segments of the other two Bioshock games
>characters have more to them beside the stereotype/cliche they represent
>it's actually possible to fail

>as a side bonus: all that Elizabeth SFM

Not sure what's wrong, except maybe the Ghost having WAY too much HP on higher difficulties.

>>379537769
I'm dumping all this old stuff in this thread and as much as I lament the loss of the 2011 version, I'd still defend some aspects of the final game as well, even the ending

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Have some unused "Rapture doors" from the ending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD3-ZnzZK_8&t=188s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYeTXxDs554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0qXgl_cwJ0

>>379537769
it may be open but if nothing interesting exists in that space, it's only more bothersome. As far as gunplay, it has the same issue with Fallout 4 where shooting people might be nice, but that can't carry a game when what's around it isn't good.

Gunplay might be average or even below in Bioshock, but plasmids actually interested me, I wanted to find audio diaries and explore the levels, and finding passive plasmids lying around felt good. Bioshock Infinite is big and empty. The latter ruins the former.

>>379537487
>holy cats
I know I've seen it in something Levine-related, but what was it again?

>>379540085
Your whole post is literally "this game is not an RPG only an FPS so it automatically sucks." Which is kinda fucking retarded since everything in Infinite is designed around the fact that it's an FPS not some sorta watered down FPS/RPG rip off.

BI to me is the only game in the Bioshock series that comes close to one of my all time favs System Shock 2 because it tries to do its own thing instead of being a watered down take on System Shock 2.

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>>379542071
It was a tweet to Levine saying "Holy cats! You weren't lying when you said you rewrote the whole story six months ago!". This was a few days before Infinite released and the tweet was promptly deleted.

>>379542346
It was always going to have more scripted triggers, but the earlier demos had actual choices, optional paths, risk engaging a mob or passing by. It was an attempt to outgrow the "sole survivor in dead city addressing you from behind glass" trope by putting you in a live conflict zone. That was an interesting evolution of the Shock template. Now I still love plenty about the final game but it's just a corridor shooter made to paste together the environments and story beats and the press fell over themselves to fellate it anyway, completely oblivious to the massive compromise they were served up.

>>379514349
its actually an enjoyable game.

Just recently finally play the whole game.

but i don't quite get the story.
where does Cornelius Slate story comes from?
suddenly he's fucking things up just when you happened to be there.
and he don't seems to care there's two you existing.

and why would you be racist if you're baptized?
is it because of lady comstock getting killed by a nigger?

>>379544053
I don't disagree but I would trade the entire final game for a working playable 2011 build, even incomplete. The scale of the architecture was just spectacular.

>>379543935
See, a more typical shooter yeah, but it's certainly not a corridor shooter since it does a good job of having decent variety in how each combat level is set up which are far more open than corridor shooter stuff. I do agree with the other stuff. It's a good game that could've been GOAT game.

>>379522403
>overly complex
Never play the System Shock games, they would probably give you an aneurysm

>>379544478
Slate does remember Booked DeWitt, he just doesn't recognize Comstock (which is dumb but Booker doesn't recognize bearded statues of himself either so eh)

The baptism point is so often deliberately misconstrued. The point is that Booker feels enormous guilt and self-hate over his actions at Wounded Knee (it's hinted that He/Comstock has native american blood). By fully believing that his sins can be washed away, instead of forgiving himself he goes deeper down the cognitive dissonance rabbit hole and warps Christian morality to justify his past actions by trivializing the natives and their suffering in the name of manifest destiny. That is the point of the Booker/Comstock dichotomy. Booker is a broken, wasted, guilt-ridden fuck-up living with his guilt, whereas Comstock has completely warped and suppressed any moral ambiguity to suit his confirmation bias and personal justifications.

There's tons of logical problems with the multiverse stuff (on top of the classic grandfather paradox that it basically is) but there is really nothing wrong with the core conceit of the baptism split on a thematic level. It's not as clever as Would You Kindly, but it sums up the game's intent rather well.

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>>379514349
I fully enjoyed BS:I despite its obvious mechanical issues and full retard ending.

>>379545223
>he just doesn't recognize Comstock
but why did he nonstop yelling about comstock not giving him and the soldiers an honorary death or some shit like that?
how did he get to Columbia anyway, seems like he must had been there for quite awhile.
the character just doesn't seems to be well thought out but forced because the writer is talentless hack
same goes to the female nigger that seems to be important to the plot but actually not at all

>>379537769
>best gunplay in the series
Nigga,even the first Bioshock has better gunplay and Infinite was my first Bioshock,I haven't played 2 yet

>>most open levels in the series
I doubt it

>allows you to use all vigors instead of just one plasmid
and you never use then because they're almost all shit

>when it does beat you on the head with something, people STILL don't get it and think there's a plothole
>Implying the game itself isn't a mess of plotholes

>characters have more to them beside the stereotype/cliche they represent
They're walking western cliches

Bioshock Infinite's defense is literally a bunch of redditors

>>379538785
;_;

>>379546151
Slate was in Columbia since the secession, he was Fink's original Security Chief. He is taking his original cavalrymen from Wounded Knee that followed him and Comstock to Columbia and thrashing the Hall of Heroes because he had discovered Lady Comstock's diary and is aware of the lies that Comstock is perpetuating. He's cornered there and wants Booker to give his men the honorable death that Comstock would deny them. It's foreshadowing the ending by contrasting the two but Slate is not aware of the bigger picture.

>>379514349
>What the fuck went so horribly wrong

nothing, it sold millions

as for the gameplay, it's more linear and exploration is now minimal The game is focused on narrative and action, but vigors still allow some combo variety.
A different game is not always a bad thing, BS1 and BS2 did pretty much the same kind of stuff gameplay wise, a third game like that wasn't necessary

>>379546176

>Nigga,even the first Bioshock has better gunplay and Infinite was my first Bioshock,I haven't played 2 yet

not him, but that's retarded, BS1 and BS2 has clunky and sluggish combat while BSI is smooth as fuck and you are way more agile and precise. This is not an opinion, BS1 and 2 sometimes expect you to tank face damage by spamming medikits, that's how retarded it is. Not to mention BS1 has some OP weapons while the rest is trash, while almost everything is viable in BSI when upgraded

>Crows
>Shotgun
>That one piece of gear that electrocutes people when they take a huge amount of damage
The game played itself

>>379521971
>Play bioshock 1/2 on hardest
>It's actually pretty hard

BS1 and BS2 on hard are total cakewalks dude, BSI is way harder on 1999 mode

>>379548290
There's an even funnier set-up where doing damage refills your Salts so you can charge infinitely. Kills Lady Comstock within literal seconds, before she even starts attacking or summoning undead soldiers.

>>379548364
the only thing that made 1999 mode hard was how badly designed the combat is

the AI in BI is pathetic, enemies just stand still wherever they are and take potshots, and the handymen can literally be kited indefinitely, but in 1999 mode they have a shitton of health and you have to deal with the stupidly low ammo count and 2 weapon limit

>>379548653
The gear being random system is retarded though because I got my gamebreaking setup from the 3rd piece of gear I found while other runs I got shit for 90% of the game

>>379548290
>>379548653
you can also cheese the final encounter by covering the generator with return to sender traps

>>379514349
Ken Levine scrapped 80% of the games story and mechanics 6 months prior to release and then procceeded to Make up some quantum theory bullshit that he himself didn't understand and base the new story on it. While also neglecting to have the story follow any rules the setting put in place.
Which is why the ending makes no fucking sense and everything you did was for nothing while the story tells you that you fixed everything.

Ken is a hack.

>>379516118
Consoles were the cause of The story, gameplay, and setting getting butchered and entirely replaced 6 months before release?
I don't buy it.

>>379551049
The Booker is Comstock twist wasn't there before but the multiverse thread was since the very first teaser, it's why it was called Infinite in the first place.

>>379551983
But I'm sure the Drowning Booker thing wasn't and doing so solved nothing since he and that baptism were variables.

>>379548229
>This is not an opinion, BS1 and 2 sometimes expect you to tank face damage by spamming medikits
You are a terrible player if think BS1 and especially 2 ever force you to facetank damage just to survive. You can get through most levels unscathed if you know what to expect and plan accordingly.

>>379514736
>It's more story driven
Then why was the story so shit too?

>>379552382
True

Because the entire game was gutted a few months before release and totally switched around. It's basically an unfinished, unpolished game which explains how little of it fit together well.

>>379553383
Yes, you can even see an ungodly amount of seams and overlapping in the geometry, because it's just kit-bashed tilesets. Not uncommon but there's so much of it that it undermines the art. It's fitting that Columbia is a facade but it should not feel like a literal one.

>>379551049
You did fix everything though. That set of timelines that are related to the events of BI are gone. This is why Burial At Sea has a totally different timeline happening in it.

>>379554420
Yet killing your Booker at the baptism didn't fix the problem the story was talkabout.
It didn't erase comstock from all universes like the story was driving form. Or at least it shouldn't have.
The way to do that is to kill the twin's Parents before they have a child. than dimension and time travel isn't created and comstock exists but we don't get dimension hopping and floating cities.
But what are you going to do. Ken Levine likes feeling dumb so everyone else has to suffer for it.

>>379517404
I like how the bells actually light up when you're in the correct sequence so anyone could easily brute force that shit even without the card

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>>379514349
This fucking game.
This is one of the games that made me legitimately start believing there was some global corporate shill media conspiracy between video game companies and the game journalists. This game was fucking shilled to death with such ridiculous praise -- and now? No one fucking remembers it. Because it's mediocre with a 2deep4u story.
Fuck Bioshock.

>>379514349
Why is he so cute, bros?

Nate Wells, the art director for this game, BS1, SS2, SWAT4, Thief and Freedom Force, decided to quit in the middle of development of this game because Levine was George Lucas tier asshole.
He had them work on Shantytown with his own instructions then after months of working on it he saw what they were doing and told them he doesn't want it like that.
Guy ended up working on Naughty Dog's Last of Us instead

>when everyone lauds your shit game as the citizen kane of vidya but your publisher knows how much money you wasted on rewrites and delays so they still axed almost everyone on your team

https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/bioshock-infinite-studio-irrational-games-fires-staff-and-shuts-down-1585189/