Defend this typical businessman and shareholder pawn being put

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He's merely a temporary measure until the true successor is ready.

>>379511809
Nintendo released its best game to date under his reign

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>>379511967
>Falling for the likeable face with no actual involvement
Sony and Nintendo are a mirror of each other at this point jfc.

>>379511809
My stock is up.

>>379512094
Iwata's name is on BotW you delusional faggot.

>>379512145
that's koizumi you retard

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>>379512145
>MAG
Hahahahahaha

>>379511809
>a business man running a business
Fuck off you underage idealist

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>>379511809
Why does he always look upset in every picture I see of him?

>>379511967
Just looked up his track record
>Writing, illustration, and 3D modeling
>Over a decade of nothing but producer and special thanks
This man hasn't done anything in a very long time. A far cry from the programming wizard gone CEO of Iwata.

Reply to this post with who you would prefer or like to see as Nintendo's CEO

>>379512145
This guy is Mario's Aonuma, and he has done a far better job at handling his series.

Iwata who?

>>379512667
He's been the main guy for Mario, their biggest franchise, since the GameCube.

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>>379512425
it was supposed to be the chosen one

>>379512816
>Sunshine
>The New! series
>The 3D series
>Toads toads toads
Thats honestly a horrible track record, he's gotten literally Galaxy 1 and 2 right, and a few things decent.

>>379511809
Kimishima is the type of suit who would've turned down Bayonetta 2 if it was offered.

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just look at the way he holds the gameboy SP

hes clearly never played a single Nintendo game in his life

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>>379511809
Dad?

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>>379513079
This.

Kimshima would have never taken the risk on Splatoon (ARMS doesn't count, Splatoon was the risktaker because of how long it had been since Nintendo introduced a major new IP).
He would have never taken the risk on Bayonetta 2 or Wonderful 101.
Or taken the risk of flipping the Zelda formula on it's head in BOTW when all the OOT clones sold.
Or respect Sakurai's wishes regarding the Smash series if he doesn't wish to continue it.

Kimshima is good for business but I play fucking video games, not the stock market.

>>379512667
>wrote the story for Link's Awakening and the darker parts of Majora's Mask
>directed Sunshine and Galaxy
>wrote Rosalina's storybook in secret
>developed flipnoite studio in his spare time
>produced all later 3D Mario installments
>lead development of the Switch and is responsible for pretty much everything besides the initial concept all while leading EAD Tokyo
Seems like a good choice to me.

>>379512938
2D Mario is Tezuka and Paper Mario is Tanabe.

>>379512938
Here we go again.
One: NSMB picked up when the first game sold the way it did and the higher ups pressured him to do more in that style.
Two: Tanabe is the one who pushed for the toads, and that's not even the main Mario series, which Koizumi does not work on.

>>379511809
>has a nice smile when it does show itself
>postpones zelda to make sure it has enough time in development to be a good game
>promises an actual 3ds successor
>helps guide along a bretty good home console
>not perfect, but more in touch than the usual japanese businessman
>super nintendo world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKCqJ8llKuA
>might get decent movies from them on the quality of the pikmin shorts
i like him

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>>379513337
>>379513079
Now you understand.

>>379513448
>and the higher ups pressured him to do more in that style
And it worked. More evidence that I dont want him in charge of Nintendo ever. Iwata was great because he didn't instantly bend to shareholder demands. When he finally did make smartphone games the ones directly under Nintendo's control lacked predatory practices until after he died.

>>379513535
don't forget decent mobile games
rip miitomo tho

>>379513535
Pikmin shorts, Nintendo world, and the Switch were all Iwata.

Now 70 dollar pro controllers and 100 dollar hdmi docks? THATS Kimishima.

>>379511809
>Implying any of the retarded oldfags at Nintendo can save their declining company.

>>379513337
Videogames are business

>>379513814
And you are not a businessman, you are a consumer.

>>379513814
People like you are the reason we don't get fun experimental games like Katamari and Killer7 anymore.

>>379511809
Why do people suck Iwata's dick so much

>>379511809
What the FUCK is his problem?

>>379513968
Zelda Cycle, but with Nintendo CEOs.

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>Demanded the cancellation of all WiiU games not 90% or more complete
>Among the casualties was Miyamotos one fucking unique project for the WiiU, Project Giant Robot
>2016 was a content drought the likes of which has never been seen before as Kimishima pulled all WiiU support and nearly all 3DS support for a year
>Abandoned the WiiU in the most blatant and shameless way possible despite the people who invested into it, when even SEGA in it's death throes continued to support the Dreamcast
You're retarded if you don't hate him

>>379513891
You don't know anon

>>379514146
Yamauchi sucked and were STILL dealing with the consequences of his terrible reign. Nintendo will probably never have third party support again because of his actions.

Iwata is the only one who was a good CEO to the consumers of Nintendo products.

>>379512587
He will make you understand!

>>379514395
>Wii U
>Good to the consumers of Nintendo products

>>379514229
Not cancelled, just moved to the Switch, which I'd hate to say it, but was the right thing to do.
As much as I wanted to see Project Giant Robot too, it had the same problem as Project Hammer, and Nintendo did NOT want a repeat of that.

>>379514885
No other company would have gone to the trouble of making Splatoon, Smash 4, Super Mario Maker, Dong Freeze, and a shitload of other games on a system selling as poorly as the WiiU except for an Iwata ran Nintendo. Then he died and Kimishima abandoned the system and halted game development.

Yamauchi demonstably would not have done the same, he abandoned the Virtual Boy the minute it came out and put out a Yakuza hit on the creator.
Kimishima is the one who abandoned the WiiU in 2016 so we know his stance on paying customers. A means to an end.

>>379515161
Nice fanfiction. Obviously Iwata wasn't behind the development of the Switch or anything.

>>379511809
Iwata was running the fucking company into the ground, good riddance.

once Miyamoto dies or retires maybe franchises like Star Fox and Paper Mario can finally be good again.

>>379515330
>Fanfiction
Nice buzzword in place of a real argument faggot. ALL of what I said is 100% true.

The concept of the Switch was Iwata. But they didn't have peripheral and controller prices ironed out in 2015 when he died. I can fucking assure you that.

Switch? Conceptually Iwata.
70 dollar pro controllers, 90-100 hdmi docks, paid online thats has less features than the free offerings of previous consoles, hardware shortcuts, and WiiU ports? Thats Kimishima's handiwork.

>New 3DS about to be a thing
>Devs figure out how to do eye tracking 3D
>Miyamoto demands they include it to make the N3DS worth the money
>Iwata goes for it
We all know what Kimishima's answer would have been.

>>379515594
Tanabe is the one ruining Paper Mario you tard

>>379514395
Nintendo had third party support because they single-handedly revived the industry, but it was never going to last. On a successful console you might sell an average of ten games. On a Nintendo console their own games take up a third to half of that, while on the PS4 the average consumer owns one third of an exclusive.
Yamauchi could've been Santa himself and Sony still would have poached third party support. Ever since then Nintendo has been doing their thing with graphics. Financially much less riskier, but other companies can't afford to take that leap so they're stuck without the default ports.

>>379513796
>tfw theyve been saying this for years and nintendo is still around

>>379515984
>Yamauchi could've been Santa himself
He was a fucking Tyrant to third parties and picked a format that would have been hell for them to work with in the fifth gen. Yamauchi killed the third party on Nintendo singlehandedly. He may have been in charge during the SNES, but his policies ensured Nintendo would never have another one.

>>379515984
>On a Nintendo console their own games take up a third to half of that, while on the PS4 the average consumer owns one third of an exclusive.
This was really the case for all consoles at the time though.

>>379516292
you think in an alternate timeline without him, things would be different?

>>379511809
Why should I? He's been doing fine so far.

>>379516992
Somebody else needed to be put in charge going into the fifth gen.
I dont know necessarily if Iwata would have succeeded in that role yet. But literally everything about his decisions in the fifth gen cemented Nintendos current problems they still haven't shaken the damage he did.

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When does Shibata take over?

>>379517683
Never. Shibata must keep being adorable and based here in Europe.

>>379517663
But on the other hand maybe Iwata would have been ready by the fifth gen. When Sakurai pitched Smash to the Nintendo higherups he got totally shut down. Iwata told him to go behind their back and make a playable demo. He was undoing Yamauchi's terrible decisions.

Iwata is the only Nintendo CEO who has always cared about putting good, interesting video games out into the world, and he didn't stop caring all through his career as CEO. Yamauchi and Kimishima are businessmen, Iwata is a game developer put in charge of a game company, and the difference shows in everything those 3 do.

>>379518225
>He was undoing Yamauchi's terrible decisions during the fifth gen already*
However, Iwata also saved Pokemon several times over in the fifth gen by saving Pokemon GS and Pokemon Stadium JP, so it's probably for the best he took the helm when he did.

>>379513084
what the fuck

>>379512587
he is remembering the wii u years

>>379517683
As an American, I have way more respect for Shibata than I do for Reggie. Reggie wouldn't even give us the Bayonetta 2 collector's edition. He's a piece of shit.

>>379511809
Neither of them were going to give me a new F-Zero.

>>379518629
His name is also french for loving little boys I found out recently

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>>379518629

Also this, right?

>>379518819
Yamauchi would have, I miss him.

>>379513968
Don't know but I'm glad he's gone, now Nintendo is getting good and serious again. I can see a 2D Metroid being made with no Iwata bullshit this time.

>>379519003
This was going above and beyond since not even Japan had a limited edition for this game. It was made for EU fans specifically so they'd be able to get a physical copy of the game. I got it myself.

>>379519184
>I can see a 2D Metroid being made
Yeah, don't get your hopes up. Like others have said, Kimishima is a businessman, and Metroid doesn't sell. It isn't happening.

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>>379519184
>Now that the idealist holding off shareholder demands and putting the customers first is dead we'll surely see the return of niche series

Iwata was head of the worst era for Nintendo

>>379519825
Any facts and evidence for your full of shit claim?

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>>379520096

>>379519825
This

>>379519602
>>379519748
Iwata era gave us Other M and Federation Force, it also gave us the Prime series. Seeing how younger are being pushed up top that includes Sakamoto, I can see a 2D Metroid happening in the future.

>>379520096

The Wii and Wii u

>>379520319
*younger devs

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>>379520374
The wii printed money.

He was the man who decided to extend the partnership between Nintendo and Nvidia

>>379520446
Not him but that was because of casuals, they fucked over their hardcore fanbase.

>>379520446

I don't care about money

That's literally my grandfather
t. Gaijin

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>>379515606
>ALL of what I said is 100% true.

>>379514395
>Muh Tamauchi was mean
He was the one who made Nintendo into a sucesful videogame company

>>379519825
>>379520310
These underage fucknuggets forget
>DS
>3DS
>Wii

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>>379520310
>>379520374
>Muh WiiU is bad
My fucking sides
>Smash 4
>Mario Maker
>3D World
>Mario and Luigi U
>Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe is botched on Switch)
>Captain Toad
>Wooly World
>Dong Freeze
>Kirby: Rainbow Curse
>Breath of the Wild
>Hyrule Warriors
>WW and TP HD
>Splatoon
>Pikmin 3
>Starfox Guard (Can be purchased separate)
>Pokken
>Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
>Nintendoland
>Fatal Frame
>Bayonetta 1 and 2
>Wonderful 101
>Monster Hunter 3U
>Lego City Undercover
>Tekken Tag Tournament WiiU Edition
>Rodea (Wii game packaged as a WiiU game)
>Pushmo World
>Runbow
>Fast Racing Neo
>Affordable Space Adventures
>Good selection of 3rd party Indies (Some with exclusive content and controls to the WiiU version like Trine 2, Shovel Knight, and Severed)
A console with as bad of sales as the WiiU would have never gotten as much support as it did under anyone but Iwata. And it's full of risks like Bayo 2, Wonderful 101, and Splatoon that everyone else would have (In Bayo's case did) passed on because muh business, especially not on a console in the shape of the WiiU.

The Wii was a casual craze but the DS was getting core game support throughout its life and the Wii got a small handful of very good core games like Xenoblade and Mario Galaxy. Iwata was also wise enough not to cave to shareholder demands of chasing the dragon of the Wii craze and immediately throwing everything into mobile/ more motion gimmicks. He stuck to his guns and turned the WiiU around from total failure to profitability (if not much).

Stop being delusional. Iwata was the only Ninty CEO who cared about Nintendo's customers. He's one of the few people involved in the gaming side of business who can claim that period. You don't realize how good you had it, and the next few years are going to be a hilariously rude awakening for the people who think Nintendo in 2017 is the same as Nintendo in 2015.

>>379520319
2D Metroid has never sold well. Kimishima wont let them make a new one, sorry.

>>379521076

SNES and gameboy/GBA were better

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We all know how he gained power, we're better off not questioning it.

>>379516292
>He was a fucking Tyrant to third parties
>Implying third parties are saints
They were responsible for the current trend on the game industry

>>379521049
And ensured it wouldn't be past 1996.

>>379520675
>they fucked over their hardcore fanbase.
So just like Kimishima did to Wii U owners?
Hmmm......

>>379521147
2D Metroid is AA and Metroid 1-4 sold over a million, Metroid 1 in particular sold over 2 million.

>>379521252
Wii U was shit from the beginning. No one gave a shit about the Sega Saturn of Nintendo consoles.

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>>379521242
>Because there are bad trends in the 2010's Yamauchi's grabbing everyone by the balls because they needed him and he didn't need them is perfectly ok and didn't ruin third parties on Nintendo

>>379513337
>Splatoon was the risktaker because of how long it had been since Nintendo introduced a major new IP
Codename Steam released earlier that same year.

>>379521146
Goddamn Iwata fanboys are retarded.

>>379521430
If the Wii U is shit then so is the Switch since it literally only has Wii U ports.

>>379521454
Do you realize how budget 3ds development is?

>>379521483
>No rebuttal
>No argument
>No points against Iwata of any kind
Same shit, every time.

>>379521528
For now, but it's already about to get a better Mario game than that piece of shit.

>>379521335
>It sold well on NES that means it'll sell well today
Ok kid
Don't come crying to me when Kimishima won't let them take a risk and make a new one

>>379520319
>kimishima sees that federation force sold like shit
>well no reason to make another

You know this is true

>>379521610
There's literally nothing wrong with 3D World.

GOLDEN IDEA FOR AN ANIME
Starring a young man who is a high executive for Nintendo as he rises through the ranks and tries to do great for the company he loves and believes in, with this guy as his adversary. Every night he is visited by the ghost of Iwata and goes out for coffee with Shiggy every now and then as his funny mentor.

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>>379521610
>Haven't seen shit from Odyssey
>Confirmed to beat Mario Maker
>Confirmed to beat Luigi U
>Confirmed to beat 3D World
I'm hopeful for Odyssey too man but we literally know shit right now.

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>Nu-/v/ forcing the Wii U was bad meme
We won't get anything like these games with Kimishima.

>>379521803
>posthumous likeness stealing
How about we dont.

>>379512587
>>379514534
>He will make you understand!

He WILL make you understand.

>>379512145
What ever happened to this guy?

>>379513814
Good businesses require risk. Take a chance to gain a new audience. Playing it safe appeals to shareholders because they're a bunch of microtrading short-sighted retards, but it's not good for business long-term.

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>>379521571
>Sucking Iwata's dick this much

>>379514395
>Nintendo will probably never have third party support again because of his actions.

It's actually quite simple. It's called Stop Releasing Underpowered Consoles.
But Nintendo is too cheap for that.

>>379512587
does anyone have the "leave Sony to me" pic?

>>379522045
He appeared in a commercial for a car company giving away a Nintendo Wii and Sony shitcanned him within 24 hours.

>>379521890
We already have half of those games on the switch tho?

>>379522074
The Gamecube already proved that this isn't the case.

>>379522224
You have 1 of them. Splatoon if you want to count that I guess. So maybe 2.

>>379521717
You're right since Metroid and Metroid Prime are two different series (within the SAME TIMELINE) we won't be getting another Metroid Prime game in the future.

>>379521778
It's a sequel to 3D Land

>>379521883
>Confirmed to beat Mario Maker
Was a great game
>Confirmed to beat Luigi U
Couldn't even beat the classic 2D Mario games. The NSMB series is shit in comparison to the classic 2D Mario games.
>Confirmed to beat 3D World
But 3D World is one of the worst 3D Mario games.

>>379522378
>But 3D World is one of the worst 3D Mario games.
It's better than Sunshine and both Galaxies. Galaxy has a garbage control scheme and half the time is just spent watching Mario fly around. Sunshine is just a mess.

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>>379522063
Nigga his career is a metaphorical dick worth sucking and you still haven't come up with a single reason why that wouldn't be the case while I've given you post after post of why it is.

This is your last (you) unless you give me something with substance to blow the fuck out.

>>379522280
Mini-discs.

Nintendo doesn't have to make the strongest console. They just need to make a console that has current gen power. Xbone power would've been find and would secure third party support.
Instead we got a Wii U 1.5.

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>>379522461
>3D World
>Better than both Galaxies

>>379522378
>Was a great game
At least your not a shitposter
>Couldn't even beat the classic 2D Mario games. The NSMB series is shit in comparison to the classic 2D Mario games.
You clearly didn't play Luigi U. It's the New! game worth a shit. The difficulty picks up from where NSMBU left off and the level design is sublime. Artstyle is ass but its an expansion to the New! series so what can you do.
>But 3D World is one of the worst 3D Mario games
This doesn't say a lot in a series that's unanimously great. I personally put it above 3D Land, Sunshine, and 64.

>>379522594
It is. It has actual platforming. You know, the whole reason people like Mario??
I gave my reasons why its better, do you have a counterargument??

>>379522309
>Mario Odyssey
>Mario Kart 8 Delux
>Xenoblade 2
>Pokken DX

Then you have Shit like ARMS, like how retarded do you have to be to think the Switch won't get games like the WiiU?

>>379522594
There are plenty of good reasons to put literally every single 3D Mario in the #1 spot. It all just comes down to which one hit your personal preferences the best.

>>379522815
Both Galaxy games have far better and more interesting level design, for example Flip Out Galaxy from Galaxy 2 is more interesting, challenging and fun than anything from 3D World.

Both Galaxy games also have an emphasis on platforming and they do it better than 3D World.

>>379522942
Odyssey and 3D World are different games. I think Odyssey will be good but I wouldn't have wanted to skip 3D World. They're entirely different.
Xenoblade 2 is going back to Xenoblade 1's Style, which is ridiculous since XCX was miles better. It doesn't have giant robots. And sci-fi always beats generic fantasy.

>>379522942
Half of the games you listed are WiiU games and Deluxe is a botched port of 8.

As a person who has historically purchased Nintendo consoles the Switch has spit in my face and given me zero reason to own.

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>>379523164
>People will defend this

>>379523221
>MOM SAID ITS MY TURN TO USE THE MONADO

>>379523221
>People will defend a Xeno game where you don't pilot a giant Mecha
I hate nu-/v/.

>>379522461
>3D World better than both Galaxies
BOY!

>>379522682
>3D World better than 64
Am I stuck in the Twilight Zone?

>>379523032
>Both Galaxy games have far better and more interesting level design
I disagree. Like I said, in Galaxy you spend more time watching Mario fly around space than actually platforming.
3D World is just straight ahead platforming, no bullshit gimmicks, with tight as fuck level design and lots of polish. It's basically Super Mario World in 3D, and as a huge fan of World it hit all the right notes for me.

>>379522474
>Nigga his career is a metaphorical dick worth sucking and you still haven't come up with a single reason why that wouldn't be the case while I've given you post after post of why it is.

All you gave was a list of WiiU games, that was bloated with ports, multi-plats and E-shop titles.

The WiiU was straight up ass and completely wasted its gimmick, switch looks to at least make better use of it.

>>379511809
He greenlit Xenoblade Chronicles 2. There Defended.

>>379523778
>Galaxy you spend more time watching Mario fly around space than actually platforming.
No you don't.

>>379523751
64fags are the meleeautists of Mario
>Janky mechanics gave this game depth so it's forever the unending king of this series, suck it everybody else
I like 64 alright but in a world with a million platformers that all learned it's lessons from Mario 64 I find there's little reason to play it over the other offerings in the series or genre since I have little interest in speedrunning it

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>>379523909
>He ignored the game with the most potential just so he could pander to Smashfags
Why is this a good thing again?

Much I liked iwata and respect his legacy, Kimishima is trying to get this company out of a hole. Not selling the Switch at a loss is a good start.

>>379523909
Xenoblade one revisit is the safest thing Monolith can possibly do.

>>379511967
I liked him better in cat ears

>>379524062
>respect his legacy
The two worst Nintendo home consoles?

>>379524062
Yeah and he's trying to climb out by taking advantage of his consumer base, it's not going to end well.

We live in a world where Nintendo has mobile games that use whale targeting business tactics for shit sake. He was the worst decision for the consumers.

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>>379524235
>He's still trying
Your done, sex genie, everyone knows the WiiU was a good console.

>>379522378

>You're right since Metroid and Metroid Prime are two different series (within the SAME TIMELINE) we won't be getting another Metroid Prime game in the future.

Ehh, I'd love to see more, good Metroid games too, but you must realize that that's not how companies think. How many times has a company seen a game from a series do poorly and decide that the whole series is unwanted? Look at SE and Deus Ex. I think Human Revolution did fairly well, but the shit sales of Mankind Divided caused them to shelve the series. Yeah, SE is one of the most comically retarded video game companies out there, but still.

>>379524504
Metroid and Metroid Prime are two different series if Prime fails that means the end of Prime like with Halo and Halo Wars.

>>379525728
Prime is not a spinoff. It's mainline metroid with a different gameplay style.

>>379525728

Think of this from a company's viewpoint. To them, it's all Metroid.

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>>379524382
>WiiU was a good console.

>>379514395
>Yamauchi
>The man who became president before vidya was a thing
>The man who turned Nintendo into a vidya company
>The man active during the golden years of NES and SNES
>Bad

What the actual fuck did he mean by this?

>>379526386
It had good games and that's the only thing that should matter

>>379526496
fair enough, every console has games someone likes.

>>379527168
>Don't take this as Nintendo throwing the Prime series out of canon
Other M literally makes it so Prime isn't canon though.

>>379525796
>Prime is not a spinoff. It's mainline metroid with a different gameplay style
No it's not, it's a spin off series

>>379526104
Literally no it's not, what is wrong with you two?

http://gonintendo.com/stories/141672-official-pr-the-history-of-samus-aran-and-the-metroid-franchise

Don't take this as Nintendo throwing the Prime series out of canon since I know a lot of you dumbasses do that.

>>379527168

>Literally no it's not, what is wrong with you two?

We just know how businesses work from life experience I guess.

>>379526469
and then killed them during the end of the SNES and beginning of N64 era.

>literal monopolies
>burned bridges with every developer that didn't bend over to them
>saidbridge burning affects Nintendo to this day
>made N64 a bitch to develop on for "quality control"
>kept carts when it was clear CDs were going to phase them out

>>379527242
Treat Other M like it's non canon, that's what I do for Halo Reach.

>paid online
>overpriced "console"
>overpriced accessories
>overpriced DLC
>smartphone games

Fuck this guy.

>>379527318
Apparently you don't, since Halo Wars 2 bombed, does that mean Microsoft will kill the Halo main series because a shitty sub series game failed?

>>379524269
Not selling at a loss is taking advantage of his consumer base? That's always been the standard practice for Nintendo. Selling at a loss with the 3DS and Wii U was a desperation move. The Switch profit margins are still very narrow.

Microtransations were already being adopted with things like Nintendo Badge Arcade, while Iwata was still president. So was mobile, and so was heavy DLC pricing for Fire Emblem. By the timing, I think it's jumping to conclusions to assume that Fire Emblem Heroes's business model was a plan that Kimishima came up with.

>>379527512

I didn't say every company did it you goddamn idiot, but it does happen, and given that Nintendo has struggled for years and years to find an excuse to keep making Metroid, I think it's a sure thing that they'll use the bombing of Other M and Federation Force to give up on the series for the better part of a decade again. Probably longer this time. I want Metroid too, but don't delude yourself, man. It only leads to disappointment.

>>379528025
Other M was an experiment and how many times do I need to tell your dumbass Prime is a different series?

>>379527279
No amount of arguing semantics to us is going to change how a business minded man like Kimishima views a semantics difference like that.

>>379526469
He's also the roots of Nintendo's third party relations. Sticking to cartridges and telling Square to fuck off cost Nintendo their dominance. To this day it's a hole they still haven't dug themselves out of.

>>379528443
Business models dont take into account consumer-side semantics like you think they do.

He's cold hearted but Nintendo needs someone who will pull the plug on shit instead of losing cash on watered down failures like star fox zero and hopeless "project" tech demos when people want Nintendo to serve its real three markets: grown up nostalgia nerds (nes mini, metroid, Zelda), kids (Mario and skylanders, handheld), and people of all ages who want novel unique experiences no one else has the balls to try (Splatoon, arms).

>>379526469
>What the actual fuck did he mean by this?
Maybe read the thread full of reasons and arguments of why Yamauchi ultimately ended his career as being bad for Nintendo instead of just regurgitating shitposting catchphrases?

>>379528565
Do you think he'd cancel Mario because Mario Pinball Land didn't sell?

>>379528959
You're either mentally ill or feigning ignorance at this point. Life's too short to talk to you.

>>379528443

See >>379528785

First time I've heard Other M called an experiment. That was just Sakamoto making a game about his waifu with daddy issues. In any case, going by your argument of Prime being its own series, you still fucked up. Other M, a "main" Metroid game, failed. Federation Force, a Prime game, also failed. Two failures in a row from, what you call, two different series. Sure, looking at it from a consumer's perspective, if they stopped the bullshit and just made a fucking Metroid game then all would be well, but they don't think that way. They see two bombs in a row, so to the shareholders and bigwigs (which are usually out of touch retards), people no longer want Metroid. We're not seeing another Metroid game for a long time, bud.

>>379528785
Nintendo already stated they are giving Metroid the Sonic treatment as Sonic Lost World parkour shit didn't work so with Forces they are returning to Boostshit. Metroid is doing the same of dropping the shit Ninja Gaiden gameplay and cinematics for the 2D traditional style gameplay again.

>>379528565
Prime series is dead and we will see a 2D game again and we will never see another Prime game again, get over it because that's how business works.

Both of you take Business101 and learn something about how business works for a mega corporation around the world before you start talking bullshit. I swear Metroidfags are the most aggravating faggots online.

>>379529461
See >>379529030
But remove the "or feigning ignorance part" and replace it with "Seek help"

>>379529194
See>>379529461
Join these two in Business 101, irritating pain in the ass.

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>>379512145

>No actual involvement

Excuse me

>>379529576
Seek mental help you delusional faggot, take business classes please.

>>379529461
>>379529576

This guy's almost as delusional as that guy making "MGSV part 3 is real!" threads every day.

>>379529674

>Worked on LttP, Link's Awakening, OoT, Majora's Mask and Wind Waker
>Had nothing to do with Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword

This says a lot to me

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>>379529674
Already admitted I was wrong in another post, but his track record, especially the part where while in charge of Mario he caved to higher up demands to milk the New! series, doesn't instill a lot of confidence. And his involvement is largely art and story over the mechanics of game design like Iwata.

He'll be better than a businessman who unironically has no idea how to hold a video game console like Kimishima though.

>>379530443
>And his involvement is largely art and story over the mechanics of game design like Iwata.
Pretty sure he was the main guy behind Z targeting from OoT.

>>379529997
Your delusions are showing again. There is a reason I hate Metroid fans, Nintendo makes several remarks about the series and Metroidfags continue to go on a delusional rant like an idiot about how Nintendo hates them because Sakamoto doesn't do stupid anniversaries. I bet when we do get another 2D game you faggots will complain about that. Metroid should ended with Super Metroid, you faggots don't deserve another game since your attitudes about this series are complete shit.

>>379530553
Well thats dandy but thats one thing and his track record on Wikipedia is all creative end credits until about 2 decades ago when he moved into oversight and shit

>>379530597

>I bet when we do get another 2D game you faggots will complain about that.

Eh, we'll see in 10ish years maybe.

>>379530443
Koizumi's never had a thing to do with the NSMB series. He's only the producer for 3D Mario. He was the designer of Mario's movements in 64, along with Zelda's 3D systems. The three-day schedule system in Majora's Mask was also his creation.

>>379530597
God I'm glad I dont have aspergers

>>379530819
Well either way he'd definitely be a welcome change from Kimishima, I'll be glad to be wrong about the NSMB thing if thats the case.

>>379530870
But you do. I believe you Metroid fans became autistic after Other M raped your asses. You guys need to seek a doctor and stop acting like you know how business works. I think it's time for you to shut the fuck about Metroid until after E3 you guys are whiny little bitches who didn't get the belt and became a spoiled bitch.

>>379530796
Hasn't other series from coming back, acting like 10 years stopped other games from being developed, hell Metroid Fusion took 8 years what's your excuse about that? Read my above comment, it pertains to you too. I wonder is the Sonic fanbase autistic or the Metroid fanbase?

>>379515606
>70 dollar pro controllers, 90-100 hdmi docks, paid online thats has less features than the free offerings of previous consoles, hardware shortcuts, and WiiU ports? Thats Kimishima's handiwork.

Someone needs to be fired for this stupid bullshit.
The three things the fucking thing should have above and beyond all else to sell and continue to sell were a price that made it competitive in a real way to android tablets, the kind of fully featured games that people are just unwilling ot pay for on the tablets and free online.
That's all.

They fucked up in ways I can't even begin to comprehend to give the greasy slash and burn stockholders who only want a fat profit to hell with the future of the company a few extra cents in profit.
Look at the mario run fiasco for gods sake.

>>379531565

>whiny little bitches who didn't get the belt and became a spoiled bitch.

Ah. Daddy beat and possibly molested you. I see, that explains everything.

>>379531259
He's already in a pretty big seat at Nintendo. He was the producer and center of the whole Switch project.

>>379531891
So I guess that answers the autism question. So the Metroid fanbase are made up of autistic spoiled fags that didn't get a good ass whooping. If I knew you I would give you the ass whooping your parents never beat into you.

>>379526496
>It had good games
which is now meaningless since most of them have been and are going to continue to be ported to the Switch where they'll be the definitive versions. Face it. The Wii U was a mistake and is best left forgotten.

>>379511967
>HD RUMBLE XDDD

>>379531851
What kind of price is it supposed to have?

>>379532538
Niche games like W101 and Xenoblade X aren't getting ported.
Woolly World and Hyrule Warriors already got ported to 3DS, they won't be ported a third time. So Wii U still has the best versions of those games

>>379532538
Ports have never and will never invalidate the library of the original console.
On the other hand, the same game a second time isn't good for the same mileage. They dont for anything towards the Switches library.

And besides. The Switch currently has a whopping 3 WiiU games with a fourth on the way.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, which is a botched port and worse than the WiiU version. (Double the items, added a drifting tier, and then change nothing about the courses to accommodate these large changes which causes the game to be a fucking disaster to paly)
Breath of the Wild which had to remove the gamepad features from the WiiU so that it wouldn't be better than the Switch version
Pokken which had to withhold the DLC on the WiiU version to make Pokken DX marketable (Failure in Japan, as they have access to arcades, and are effectively being charged 60 to play the grass starter)
And LEGO City Undercover, the only one not handled by Nintendo and the only one that's just an upgraded port with zero fuckery of any kind.

>>379512145

>Koizumi
>Likeable face

The guy looks dead inside

>>379532745
200 bucks Plus an extra controller and a two player game.

Fucking base should have at least had a way to use usb hdd or at least have 500gig hdd.

This is

Say what you will about the guy, but you can't deny he steered the company's ship away from the inevitable iceberg. He got Nintendo to market Switch properly and it's selling like crack. Not only that but it appears like third parties are finally coming back. We never had a Tohou game on a Nintendo platform before, and fucking Disgaea on a console. The dude knows what he's doing.

>>379532745
The Switch controller pro does literally nothing special for the price. My 50 dollar steam controller has HD Rumble and better gyro that I can apply to any game I want. And again, it's 50, and goes on sale for 35, I could buy 2 Steam Controller with the money for a Switch Pro controller and SC's have 10 times the functionality and features.
Those are the only two features the Switch pro has over a WiiU pro controller besides an amiibo reader. And if thats were the extra 20 dollars on the pricetag is coming from why the fuck are the bundling an amiibo reader in every single switch pro controller?
Icing on the cake; you're paying 70 dollars for a Nintendo controller that doesn't even have a Nintendo style Dpad
There isn't a single thing that justifies 20 extra dollars over everybody elses controllers in the Switch Pro.

The Dock is highway robbery. It's 90-100 and literally an HDMI cord, no extra juice for the switch, no nothing, it's literally an hdmi cord.

The Switch is 300 dollars and no game and no traditional controller. The Xbox one and PS4 standard are 250 with one game and one traditional controller. They are also more powerful than the Switch.

Greedy as fuck is the only way to describe this console.

>>379533484
Dear god, Nintendo is ran by fucking monkeys.

Just throw that goddamned wii warchest at some jap and western devs and let them pump out some games goddamnit.

>>379532745

Basically, /v/ thinks they should give it away for free, or pay them to play it.

>>379512667
bro are you memeing me?

Koizumi is pretty much the lead guy in Nintendo software now. It used to be Shiggy's position

Also Iwata was a literal who before he got appointed as president

>>379521252
Kimishima knew the Wii U would fail from the start.
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/05/kimishima-knew-the-wii-u-wouldnt-be-easy-to-sell-to-consumers/

>>379534539
Doesn't excuse his actions as he took the helm.

>>379534365
>Guy who saved Earthbound
>Literal who

>>379534539
Yup, glad he's in charge.

>>379534365
>The man who saved Pokemon, twice
>Literal who

>>379533889
That's crazy. The Switch costs $257 to make. Throwing in another controller would raise it to $347, and bundling a game would put them down a $60 purchase on top of that. And they're supposed to sell all of that for $200 and take a loss of $200 per console? If they did that, the Switch would have put them over $1 billion in the red by now.

>>379534780
There's literally a thread full of reasons thats a retarded opinion to have here, I genuinely recommend you read at least some of it.

>>379518225
Iwata was needed back then because Nintendo needed something new. He changed the game with Wii, whether you like it or not. Companies like Sony and MS embarrassed themselves for a year trying to follow their moves with PS Move and Kinect.

>>379534640
What actions are you speaking of? The company being in the best financial shape since the Wii?

@379514395
>Yamauchi sucked
don't be a faceass for the sake of being a faceass!

>>379534894
Anon what are you talking about that post you responded to is full of me fucking Iwatas careerdick

>>379534801
>The Switch costs $257 to make

lol no.
Do you even realize how little profit Nintendo makes in that case?

>>379534858
Look Iwata sucked and lead to the worst years in Nintendo history. Every last one of Nintendo's series went downhill when Iwata was put in charge. Him dying was the best thing to happen to Nintendo. When he died Nintendo stopped pushing gimmicks into gameplay.

>>379511809
You clearly don't UNDERSTANDUH.

>>379535067
>When he died Nintendo stopped pushing gimmicks into gameplay.
Wrong
See: Wii Boxi- I mean Arms

>>379534938
2016 was a consolewide content drought for Nintendo. The WiiU had no support for an entire year and 3DS support was largely pulled as well.
Which an unprecedented anti-consumer move in the video game industry and basically the very first thing he did. Followed by his hard cancellation of everything WiiU that wasn't basically done.

His next major move as president would be selling the Switch and it's peripherals for highway robbery prices and releasing a Fire Emblem game that targets whales on mobile devices.

>>379535067
Oh, so you got blown out earlier in the thread and were letting time pass before you were coming back. Gotcha

>>379535184
You can play that game with just the controller or as a handheld. The motion shit is optional. Kimshima gives you options, Iwata doesn't.

>>379534801
That's news to me. Links to people who say the Switch costs 257 to make. I'm genuinely curious.
And you know what?
They should fucking know goddamned well that they should add more value and cover all of their bases.

There is no fucking way the goddamned pro controller for that system costs 90 goddamned dollars.
Fucks sake they could have just packaged in a re-branded wiiu pro controller. This is just being fucking cheap for no goddamned reason.

The game? Would have been beyond simple to throw in a four player nintendo game made specifically to tide people over or get them to buy a new game later.
There is no excuse for this level of cheapness.

They are not in danger of going under right now and them being relatively cheap with the console when it would have cost them very little to put together an attractive bundle alongside a basic bundle tha'ts just the system itself is ridiculous.

>>379535205
He made a good move, there was no point in trying to save a sinking ship meanwhile the Switch is Nintendo's fastest selling console of all time and with games like Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey coming out later this year the Switch could very well surpass the Wii U's sales by a year and good sales will lead to a much higher incentive for longtime support.

Face it, the Wii U was an absolute travesty and deserved to be abandoned.

>>379535000
Very little. That's why they rely on game sales to make up for it. With Wii U and 3DS, they sold the consoles for less than the production cost. Sony did the same with the Vita and PS4. It's a common strategy to sacrifice profit on the hardware to pursue greater software sales.

>>379535376
Lol if you use the normal controls you can't even move and punch at the same time

>>379535284
Got blown out, I think that was you. You never commented on me back after I called you autistic, so now you're trying to revision history. Damn Metroid fans are mental. I can see why no one likes your fanbase.

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>>379511809
He looks like most honorable shogun.

>>379535590
lol

>>379535514
>talk about how Kimishima doesn't force gimmicks, brings up ARMS
>tell him it's optional, tells me but then you can't use the gimmick
Which is it man?

>>379535432
>He made a good move by abandoning the portion of his consumerbase consistent enough to buy a WiiU
Also Iwata had already pushed the WiiU into profit by the time he died.

The WiiU was a great console with bad sales and you are not a shareholder faggot, their financial success does not mean better games for you.

>>379535000
Usually, you make actuals profit from the games only

>>379535424

There's no incentive for them to do it, they proved that with how well the Switch is selling. Regardless of whether this is fair or not, Nintendo knows they don't have to lower the price and throw in free games and controllers.

>>379535432
This

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>>379535520
Oh I was thinking of somebody else way earlier, but you were the weird metroid autist. Gotcha.
I didnt really talk to you, just watched your mad ramblings in bemusement.

>>379535674
Moving while punching isn't a gimmick

>>379535820
>Metroid autist
But the Metroid fanbase, I don't associate with those mental faggots.

>>379535741
They'll be able to get away with this for all of another 9 months.
By then people will completely abandon it for the shiny new and far more expensive thing later.

Remember how well the WiiU sold at first? The 360 which was basically abandoned compared to the still chugging along ps2 and later wii?

Exactly.
They need to stoke the fire or they're asking for early irrelevancy.

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>>379534801
>The Switch costs $257 to make.
There's a million signs the Switch needed to go back to the drawing board once or twice more before it came out but didn't because the WiiU wasn't selling but this is the biggest one. Hardware revision is all but confirmed if thats true.

>>379512881
best doujin

>>379535930
Yes it is. I want to sit my ass on my chair and hit buttons on a controller not move my arms around like some maniac. Kimishima gives me the option to play the game like a game.

>>379535930
It's flicking your wrist to perform the main action of the game. No matter how much mechanical depth it has it will always be a waggle game. This isn't inherently wrong but it means its going to have limited appeal and is gimmicky.

>>379535424
https://www.vg247.com/2017/04/06/nintendo-switch-estimated-to-cost-257-to-manufacture/

It's an estimate from a reputable Japanese teardown firm, reported by Nikkei. With that, Nintendo's comments, and developers expressing surprise at how low Nintendo was selling them for, I think it's pretty reliable. Nintendo is using pretty modern technology with the Switch.

$90 is the estimate given for two Joycons. I guess a Pro controller would be a little cheaper than that. But either way, bundling an extra controller while also charging $100 less for the console would result in a huge loss. So would putting in the development time and resources for a game that's not going to make any money back.

>>379536079
I'm not talking about YOU moving, you fucking tard. Your ARMS character cannot punch while moving with normal controls. They're gimped.

>>379536216
>Finish your hybrid tablet console
>It costs 257 to make it
>Never stop to think about the fact that the PS4 and Xbox One are selling for 250 and are more powerful than the machine that you made
The Switch is a fundamentally flawed console.

>>379536328
Well I guess that explains why the game is shit.

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>>379535678
>The WiiU was a great console with bad sales
And Kimishima is ensuring the Switch is a great console with great sales.

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>>379533623
he's just tired

>>379536456
PS4 launched at $400 with a $381 manufacturing cost, selling at a loss. Xbox one launched at $500 with a $471 manufacturing cost, selling at a loss. High production costs are unavoidable when technology is still new. You know if they used older, cheaper technology, they'd just get laughed at for that instead. There's no winning for Nintendo.

>>379521146
can agree with you except
>Iwata was also wise enough not to cave to shareholder demands of chasing the dragon of the Wii craze and immediately throwing everything into mobile/ more motion gimmicks. He stuck to his guns and turned the WiiU around from total failure to profitability (if not much).
in the end, Nintendo released games on Smartphones, and the WiiU was still a failure

>>379537709
>There's no winning for Nintendo.
Especially when they manage to make simultaneously the most expensive and weakest console on the market.

>>379537798
No smartphone games featured predatory business practices until awhile after he passed.
And the WiiU as of 2014 was officially a profitable console. It just took awhile and the turnaround in the end still wasn't wild sales. So Kimishima hard abandoned it when he took the helm in 2016.

>>379537568
>And Kimishima is ensuring the Switch is a great console with great sales.
Everyone knows the same games a second time aren't going to be good for the same mileage. A bunch of already released games aren't strengthening the library of the Switch. And that's all the Switch has going for it right now.

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>>379537568
Kuckishima is not a gamer and just a suit.

And he is literally copying Sony (except for actually getting 3rd party games). Sadly tons of millennials are falling for it.
>release shitty console
>have almost no games except last gen ports
>no backward compatibility whatsoever
>paid online
>last gen ports are full price
>broken piece of shit console
>implement a touchscreen, which can't be used when docked
>implement a "modern" touchscreen, which can't support Miiverse
>drop Miiverse because of that
>overpriced and shitty add-ons
>crappy battery life, so call it a "home console"
>not really portable, so call it a "home console"
>when someone says it's shitty hardware, call it a "portable console"

He's literally a kike. If people weren't as stupid as they are, the shit wouldn't sell at all.

>>379537798
>WiiU was still a failure
financially, yes. Because people are idiots.
I mean people are now buying the Swotch, which makes literally no sense. Swotch is more expensive in various ways and has way less games. And the games that it has are almost exclusively indie trash or last gen ports. And that's it.

But it's the best console of last generation.
In fact it's the only console of last generation.

Games still simply worked fine right from disc
no installations
physical backward compatibility
digital backward compatibility
don't have to rebuy emulated games again
controller backward compatibility
even be able to play Gamecube games on it
be able to replace battery
best controller ever made, with insane battery life

it's literally the anti-kike console. The exact opposite what Sony pulled and this kike with the Swotch.

>>379538703
>financially, yes
In the end it turned a profit. Not a massive one but it did.

>>379538215
By the end of the year we will have
>Breath of the Wild
>Splatoon 2
>Xenoblade 2
>Super Mario Odyssey
It's first year will be better than any year the Wii U ever had and to add insult to injury it already has the definitive edition of Mario Kart 8.

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>>379539018
Xenoblade 2 will not be better than Xenoblade X.
A Xeno game where the main character doesn't pilot a mech isn't a Xeno game.
Its just pandering to Smashfags and "le really feeling it xD" memers.
Sci-fi >>>> generic fantasy

>It's first year will be better than any year the Wii U ever had
See >>379521146

You're delusional my man. And Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is literally a botched port.
>Double the items
>Add a drifting tier
>Change nothing about the courses
And surprise surprise, the balance got completely fucked to hell by it, it's a mess of a video game.

>>379538224
Satoru Iwata was in charge of the Switch. Kimishima did not come up with all that stuff. He's just carrying out the plans that Iwata laid out.

The size is pretty close to the 3DS XL, which has proven to be more popular than the smaller models. Big portable devices have come to pretty popular. The battery life's also pretty close to the 3DS's and other modern portables, so I don't think that's a strong case for it not being a portable console.

>>379511809
Creators are not always "best" and "good" choice for company's future. And thinking so is even childish for especially if the problem is attributed elsewhere, not necessary chair person itself

Even if you inner fanboyism think of misconception that corporate people are evil and creator persons have used to do what we like, you just need to look back what Iwata did for Nintendo. Considering what he did for Nintendo during his age is basically getting the basis that builds Nintendo's current suffering, Iwata "in his mind, always a creator LUL" was wrong for Nintendo perfectly

I think Nintendo's problem is not a person itself, but structure itself around which they are. If Nintendo needs a new person who can bring change over the company, it must be a person that is actually not "Nintendo guys" outside inner circle

>>379539018
Forgot to add your post number on >>379539294

>>379538802
I doubt they actually made money.
They invested tons of money into the (actually superb) streaming tech, which is still unmatched.
And then they invested tons of money into games. Most of those sold like crap.

I personally loved it. Project Zero / Fatal Frame game and still actual survival horror. That's thanks to Iwata. Then there was stuff like Bayonetta 2 and it was obvious that there is no way for it to make a profit in any case. Iwata still funded it.

This new kike would have never allowed it to happen.

>>379539018
>xenoblade 2
yeah sure, English release, kek. You are not that bright, aren't you. If the English release actually happens in 2017, it will be a shit game. Mark my words.

>Breath of the Wild
last gen port

>Splatoon 2
last gen port with a few graphical touch ups and a few new maps and weapons and that's basically it. But wait, now you get worse controls and you can't do all things that you could do on Wii U, because the kike has no idea about gameplay.
And you are allowed to only play this full price multiplayer focused game, when you pay a monthly fee on top. Cuck.

>>379511809
Nintendo was literal shit tier during Iwata's last years. It still needs work but Kimi has saved this company

reggie was offed by yakuza like gunpei

>>379515873
Miyamoto literally asked the new Paper Mario team to stick with "Mario World" characters than usual OCs

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>>379539447
You're not a fucking shareholder you wannabe businessman.
Kimishima reign is gonna produce shittier output to the consumer at gouging prices.

>>379539149
>Contrarians
The story and characters in the Chronicles >>>>>>>>>>> X

>>379539530
>I doubt they actually made money.
I dont know what else to tell you, the WiiU broke even several years ago and the rest of the money has presumably been going into Nintendo's pocket.

>>379512145

Koizumi is the real Big Boss of software at Nintendo.

>>379518854
he's haitian.

kinda feeling disgraced he shares the last name of my mother's family last-name

>>379539559
Look at all that proof of your bullshit opinion.

The 3DS and WiiU were literally flooded with good games in 2014-2015, Iwatas last years.

>>379539810
I want Monadobabies to kill themselves

>>379513968
Because he was right about everything.

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>>379511809
He has organized crime connections and as a result, has brought back 3rd parties to Nintendo.

>>379539354
>Satoru Iwata was in charge of the Switch
BS, there is no way that Iwata would have allowed such a mess of a shit design.

I'm absolutely sure Iwata's plan was to combine development and have a portable system and an actual home console, where you can play the same games and to also allow a 3DS-like system to be used WITH the actual home console for Wii U like gameplay. That's not what happened. At all. Worse even: development wasn't combined.

That sounds like classic Nintendo. Something that would have made development more complicated, but would have been something new. Something improved coming from 3DS + Wii U.

Swotch is what? Worse than 3DS. And also worse than Wii U. It makes literally no sense and looks like a hot mess because "we need to buy this Nvidia shite, so that 3rd parties will have their Unreal Engine".

It seems the kike simply told Nvidia to sell them their old antique shit from 3 or 4 years ago, so that they can print Nintendo on it and sell it for a profit. And the kike hoped that 3rd parties would totally jump on, because of Unreal Engine 4.

Guess what happened now. 3rd parties have already jumped ship and Nintendo is now stuck with a backward console that isn't able to do anything right.

You do know that Wii U supported voice chat just fine. And you want to tell me that Iwata explicitly said "no, voice chat should work over a mandatory smartphone, brilliant".
You know that Iwata wa a developer?

>>379539749
Something that stuck to the Mario world more like the original Paper Mario rather than Super Paper Mario wouldn't have been bad. The real problem is that the creative head of Paper Mario was never involved with the 3DS project. It was never going to be anything on the level of the previous games.

>>379539853
have you seen how much money Nintendo lost on it?
Compared to Sony it was nothing of course.
But it still was huge amounts of money.

What you are probably talking about is 3DS+Wii U combined. And that may be right. There is no way that they made all money back "wasted" on Wii U (hardware+games) from Wii U alone.

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>>379527279
>http://gonintendo.com/stories/141672-official-pr-the-history-of-samus-aran-and-the-metroid-franchise
>"official pr"
>same PR that said WiiU won't die to the Switch
try posting a real source, not something that came out months before Other M was released. NoA tends to get shit wrong.

>>379540153
>BS, there is no way that Iwata would have allowed such a mess of a shit design.
You have to remember he was in charge of it 2 years ago. No way it was finalized when he died.

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>>379513378
>Wrote the fucked up shit in Majora's mask
This gives me hope actually.
>best villain may be more than just a dumb cameo again

>>379540373
The combination of WiiU hardware, peripherals, and software sales caused the console to turn a very very mild profit.

>>379511809
Defend underage shitposters on /v/.

Protip: It's impossible

>>379538703
Not him but Wii U was pure shit

>cost a $100 more than console that had more features at launch (Xbox 360, PS3)
>had weak ass online service
>garbage RAM
>shit third party support
>forced gimmick controller that gimped the system, again
>in 2011 only showed off the controller maing everyone think it was just a Wii add-on
>2012 only show some theme park game and another 2D Mario
>2013 there's Smash Bros but where's the rest of their games? Metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero, Wario, Mario Kart , Wipeout, etc.
>2013 3D Mario is a 3DLand sequel
>2015 is one of the worst E3's they ever had
>2016 just Zelda
>forced gimmick controls for Star Fox
>barely any games worth mentioning
>loses Zelda exclusively to the Switch

I didn't like the Wii but at least Nintendo had some kick ass games on the system from 2006-2008. Wii U was just shit from the start and was never really good to begin with. Wii U will go down like the Saturn, gone and forgotten.

>>379540673
>>had weak ass online service
Just like the Switch then?
Switch doesn't even have public voice chat. And you have to pay for it even though its the same shit as the Wii U.

>>379540673
Nah, WiiU is Dreamcast tier.
Good console, fucked by business, remembered fondly by the people who actually experienced one of the things in person.

Hold long until Trump makes the call to make Nintendo great again?

>>379540373
Here's the thing I don't understand. The Wii U was a bomb that never recovered, the same can't be said for the PS3. So how did the PS3 nearly burn through the entirety of playstation's lifetime profits while the Wii U was a gut punch at best for Nintendo? Did PS3's just cost a shitton to manufacture?

>>379527242
>>379527376
see >>379540379

>>379512587
The phone call that saved Nintendo.

>>379540821
>good console

NES was a good console
SNES was a good console
N64 was a good console
GameCube was a good console fucked by business
Wii as bad as it was, was a good console
Wii U was a shit console

The Dreamcast was popular for a time, Wii U is Saturn tier but even the Saturn was better than that turd.

>>379540390
That's what I'm talking about.
They worked on it. Iwata went from bad to worse health.
Kike took over.
Scrapped almost everything except muh physical carts, which is the only thing I actually like about it.

That's what would make sense.
I mean Iwata was in charge for the Wii and Wii U. And DS and 3DS.

You know what all of those had in common?
Perfect backward compatibility for example. And they were also properly designed. As soon as you think about them, their design makes sense.

Swotch makes no sense at all
Useless touchscreen
Some sockets placed on the bottom (where the fucking thing is supposed to stand on)
way too large to fit inside a pocket (hint: that's why 3DS+DS used clamshell)
Battery is replaceable
no microphone (if I remember correctly)

You simply see that no actual gamer worked on it. It was simply suits, that worked on it with no idea what they were doing and they couldn't even be bothered to just COPY Iwata's designs.

And for Wii U Nintendo must have made quite some money based on almost no work (digital Wii games). Why would Iwata stop with this? There is no reason. They made quite some money on it. It was a brilliant idea and useful for both hardcore fans and Nintendo themselves.

But then you look at the hardware of the Swotch alone, and it's quite clear that it has nothing to do with what he was working on.

A kike of course wouldn't do that, because it's way more profitable to sell old games again for full price to idiots. Do shitty work, almost no new content, ship it. Profit.

>>379541367
Wii U has better first party games than Wii

>>379540379
>>379541182
See>>379522378
I knew you faggots were going to turn up somewhere so I posted this earlier, you can go to sleep now you late faggots.

>>379541367
See >>379521146

You're delusional if you think the WiiU was a bad console.

>>379541367
>NES was a good console
>SNES was a good console
>N64 was a good console
>GameCube was a good console fucked by business
Why do we hate Yamauchi again, he was golden era Nintendo.

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>>379511809
trust him. he will be a good warrior

>>379541506
Nice joke

>>379541590
Because he simultaneously guaranteed they'd never happen again

>>379541540
You're delusional if you think it was good. It's Nintendo's worse home console ever.

>>379541608
It does
Smash 4 > Brawl
MK8 > MKWii
DK Tropical Freeze > DKC Returns
3D World = Galaxy
And then there's games that don't have any equivalent on Wii, like Yoshi's Woolly World, Splatoon and The Wonderful 101

>>379541590
Because many started their gaming careers with Nintendo during the Wii era.

>>379541714
Right definitely just ignore the giant list of great games that came out during it's lifetime. While offering no rebuttal other than repeating yourself

Why do so many retards have a grudge against such a good system?

>>379541812
Wonderful 101+Bayo1/2>>>Madworld

>>379512145
>Nintendo mascot: Mario
>NoA PR face: Reggie

>Sony mascot: Changes every generation
>SCEA PR face: Changes every year

Why can't they just fucking keep something for once? When you see Mario or Reggie, you see Nintendo. You see literally whos and have to be told it's Sony. Nathan Drake might finally be their mascot, finally one that remained popular through two generations, but damn it took them forever.

>>379541812
The Wii had MadWorld which was a cuhrayzee game albeit not as good as Wonderful 101.

>>379540153
It's true. Switch's patents date back to 2015, and Iwata's contributions to the console's portability concept are documented.

http://time.com/4668908/nintendo-switch-miyamoto-interview/

Switch isn't using old Nvidia stuff. The Tegra X1 launched just two years ago. Nvidia's still using it in their own devices from this year. The Nintendo/Nvidia partnership's a long-term thing, and it was started during Iwata's time. They were the ones to go to for the high-power handheld processor Nintendo needed.

There hasn't been anything showing that third-parties are jumping ship, either. They're sticking with it much more clearly than they did with the Wii U.

>>379541982
Reggie's been staled for me ever since NOA and Treehouse decided they need to fuck up everything.

>>379541812
Wii had
>2 3D Mario games
>Metroid Prime 3
>2 3D Zelda games (one being exclusive)
>MK
>DK games
>Kirby games
>NSMB
>Madworld
>Metroid Prime Trilogy
And so much more, the hype was there with the Wii.

>>379541367
>GameCube was a good console fucked by business
BS
It bombed, because omg 3rd parties did no work at all or did shitty work. And Nintendo themselves produced tons of shit on it.

>Wii as bad as it was, was a good console
it wasn't, you retard.
It was the best selling console and compared to PS3+360 it literally was the best thing. It was too early to start with HD, that's why it sold that much. An well PS3+360 didn't really start with HD anyway, it was shitty HD.

>Wii U was a shit console
yeah, I don't like it when I can reuse my last gen controllers. I really want to be forced to buy new ones.
I also hate superb battery life. I really love it, when my expensive controllers break down within a few hours and when there is a fag light, that I can't turn off.
I also hate it when games just work. I prefer it when games take a day to install and another day to download patches.
What I also hate is exclusive and new games. I rather play last gen ports all the time
And I really really hate it when I can simply play my digital emulated games library without spending a dime on my new console. I prefer to rebuy everything for full price.
I also want to get basically the same controller every generation with no real improvement, I don't want to get anything new or creative. Just the same boring shit over and over again. And as I said - I really want to re-buy controllers every generation, because they are totally cheap.

t. you (cuck)

>>379542025
The WiiU got a ton of AAA ports in it's first year and a half (Although we all know how that went).

Switch has none of that.
What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>379541982
I remember when people used to hate Reggie then the memes started

>>379542143
Wii Ufags are the worst, but they're the minority anyway.

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>>379542143
>It bombed, because omg 3rd parties did no work at all or did shitty work.
Lol

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>There are people ITT arguing the fucking WII had good software just to spite a console that they want the entire library of
Nintendo fans have become so fucking insufferable in the last two years.

>>379542220
This is factually false, there's less Switch owners than WiiU owners and the Switch owners are effectively budget WiiU owners anyway.

If the WiiU was so bad why does literally everyone want our fucking games?

>>379542361
THIS
how the fuck can you people say the Wii U was shit, while simultaneously begging for the entire library to be ported? Do you people have no self-awareness?

>>379542576
B-but it's bad because I have to own a WiiU to play the WiiU games. -Retards

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>>379542492
The Switch is going to outsell the Wii U by it's first year.

>>379542683
Doubtful. The Wii U sold 13 million, Nintendo won't even be able to manufacture that many this year.

>>379542683
And it'll be WiiU games with proper marketing this time around that get you there.

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He, its just business kid. No hard feelings

>>379542794
>proper marketing
Something Iwata seemed to forget.

>>379532232
>he let his dad beat him
C U C K

>>379542178
Contexr. Wii U came after the Wii which was the best console for Nintendo during it's time of course AAA are gonna get into Nintendo's good side. While the switch came after the Wii U which shit the bed and caused Nintendo to be irrelevant to the Home console space
Of course 3rd parties are gonna be apprehensive about the switch not to mention we're going in untested waters since the switch is a hybrid system.

>>379543095
Ok so the Switch DOESNT have good third party support. gotcha.

>>379542751
Nintendo is projecting 13 million sales for Switch's first year. I think they're at least capable of making that many, looking at monthly sales.

>>379511809
He MADE us understand.

>>379543262
It won't happen if they can't win the bids for parts.

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>>379543262
Apple's been throttling them by buying up all of a part that they both need. So good luck with that.

Just business, right Kimishimafags?

>>379543223
It's getting games from Japanese third-parties. The ones that made games on the 3DS, and the ones that Nintendo's install base actually buys.

>>379543223
Yeah because of how the Wii U botched it. But by the looks of it it's picking up steam with the big hitters they're pushing on the system.

>>379543516
>Nintendo president Tatsumi Kimishima has admitted that he knew the Wii U would be hard to sell to consumers before the actual product launched back in 2012. The thinking internally at Nintendo at the time was that it would be a success as it was riding on the back of the hugely popular Wii console. However, this wasn’t set to be the case.

>“In an internal sales representative meeting, someone projected that we would sell close to 100 million Wii U systems worldwide,” he said. “The thinking was that because Wii sold well, Wii U would follow suit. I said that, since the Wii had already sold so well, we need to clearly explain the attraction of the Wii U if we are to get beyond that and sell the new system, and that this would be no easy task.”

>“While we announced our shipment forecast of 800,000 Wii U hardware, we are forecasting total sales of ¥500 billion for this fiscal year, about the same as last year,” Kimishima said. “I am not currently able to talk about concrete figures for unit sales, but we are planning for NX to make up for falling Wii U sales. Software for NX will also contribute to sales and profit.”

Nintendo needed him ten years ago.