Inconvenient truth in gaming that everyone knows but no

Overwatch was made for 16 year old brazilian and americans that fap 3x a day(tare rejected at school)

Battleborn has some good to great character design, hidden behind the shit tier horrible ones.

>>379501286
video games are for children. and the fact that 20+ year olds can still "identify" with these fictional characters is even more pathetic

>>379501286
https://exhentai.org/g/1072317/a044e9f18a/

Noones going to ask for but here it is anyway

Nintendo has been shooting themselves in the foot since the Wii U, and they'll never get better because the teenagers that defend their actions will keep buying their games.

You shouldn't waste money on a high-end PC unless you need it for things other than gaming.

Resource-heavy games are poorly optimized.

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>>379501286
Multiplats are bad for games quality

That the biggest thing hurting the industry are the consumers themselves.

fallout has never been good, Including NV.

The people who own video game companies don't play games. Focus groups and experiments in smaller IP's are used to test how best to implement micropayments in their more well known games.

PC gaming is actually extremely expensive because of poor game optimization from developers

Games are not becoming worse, it's the users that are more jaded.

>>379502219
i would say they're getting worse, some games just run like absolute dogshit nowadays... most games have fucking terrible writing too.. like compared modern blizzard to blizzard from 1998

Wendy's beef tastes like nothing. Never frozen garbage.

At least A&W still make good burgers AND good chicken

The SJW movement had its roots in gamergate and everyone judged and shit hurled insults at us but look at where our society is at right now. Postmodernists are taking over our institutions and people are afraid to speak out against it.

>>379502325
Maybe it's because of the poorfag computer that I used to have as a kid, but even stuff like Diablo 1 used to look like shit in my system, and the load times were upwards of 7 minutes sometimes.
I still enjoyed it like crazy

The West cannot make good games because of its inherent retrograde mentality.

>>379501286
Weeaboos are just as, if not more cancerous to the industry, as CoD kiddies.

>>379501904
>not having daily conversations with your pals about the consequences of the hyper monetization of media/art in general
Hipsters are right in than a lack of popularity is usually correlated to a genuine experience.

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Old gaming is dying, physical is dying, the 60 dollar game is dying, everything triple A is slowly turning into a service. The time of diversified taste is gone, a few games eat up the masses and everyone is more and more just playing the same game. We no longer ask for something new, we want the same familiar shit constantly served to us; never going outside our comfort zone. The industry provides us with a bunch of skinner box dopamine bullshit and we gladly eat it up, because that's what we want.

You did this, I did this, we all did this.

>>379502604
Millenials man
they believe themselves to be so fucking entitled to everything
they can't just enjoy a good game without whining about the resolution being slightly better, or load times being longer than 5 seconds

Sony and Nintendo are both winners.
Microsoft is a true loser.

>>379502769
But I am a millennial, upper edge of it but even at 31 still counts as millennial.
I consider more the fact that we were poor so I had to save money for months to get 1 game

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>>379502219
Objectively speaking, we are losing mechanics and technology from previous games
A good example would be FEAR

You only play video games because you can't get a girlfriend.

>>379502979
> we

>>379501873
Dead wrong bud

>>379501286
Video game addiction is a huge problem that needs to be addressed by more people but isn't, simply because this lack of self-control is profitable.
A little like fast food industries.

No video game is actually "deep" and any level of play in any game can be distilled down to no more than 3 or so courses of action as a response to any situation. No video game has "deep": combat, story, roleplaying, etc. Then you realize the only challenge to a game may be how bullshit difficult it is, even if it's doable, to where you realize video games are not a truly skillful medium nor are they "deep" in any capacity.

playtesters can and will absolutely ruin the concept of some games because of how fucking braindead stupid they are

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Analog sticks fucking suck, they're better than touchscreens trying to be virtual buttons, and literally nothing else. Analog sticks and their terrible flopping motion is the bottom of the barrel for controls.
We're going to be stuck with these fucks on controllers until the end of time EXCLUSIVELY because the autistic cannot handle change well.
The same people who defend analog sticks in 2017 are the type of people who thought they were unnecessary and we only needed the dpad during the birth of 3D gaming in the fifth gen.

Trackpads beat it, trackballs beat it, gyro (were not talking wiimotes or ARMSshit here, think Gravity Rush, Splatoon, and BOTW) beats it, circlepads beat it (not that slippery thing on the 3DS, one with fucking grip on the top), whatever you call the KI:U control scheme beats it. And of course obviously Mouse stands at the top but you can put mouse on a controller. There's probably more I'm not thinking of and they all fucking blow analog stick out of the fucking water.
Fuck traditional controllers and the Jim Sterling lites that attack everything different that has a chance to seriously improve how terrible controllers are in their current state.

Competitive FPS don't take as much skill as some consider them to. The mechanical precision required to fare in competitive CS and Quake is the eventual result of practicing few of mechanics, not mastering a wide array of skills.

>>379503218
>fear
>mechanics
>technology

????????

>>379502219
The literal only thing that has unanimously improved in gaming is polygon count.

Gameplay depth has objectively tanked since the 7th generation.

>>379503487
We as in my family I meant, not we as a society

>>379502720
Thank god old games still exist and there are hundreds I've yet to play, I barely touch my current gen shit unless something exceptional comes out that is a rare escape from this idea.

>>379501286
We have hit the ceiling on TV/Monitor. The only place left for innovation is VR.

>>379501286
Is it that OP keeps reposting this thread with the same image?

>>379502219
My main thing is we don't see to have as many weird out there games like the ps2 GameCube era. Like katamari or destroy all humans.

>>379503682
>analog sticks are pad
>but circle pads, the same exact idea but made with portability in mind and nothing else positive that Nintendo didn't even want to put on the Switch, are good
>fucking trackballs

You are just an actual idiot. Will something come along to replace analog sticks are an objective upgrade? Probably, but all that shit you say is better is fucking horrible.

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>>379501739
this

>>379501459
I approve

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>>379501739

This man speaks the truth. If I can encode a 4k video without getting any stutter on my machine I should be able to play your shitty CPU-bound video game too.

>>379501751
But I thought most of /v/ agreed with that

>/v/ hates the wii u and switch because they are underpowered
>/v/ loves the ps2 even though it was underpowered at release
>/v/ hates the wii for bringing in a lot of casuals to vidya
>/v/ loves the ps2 even though it sold a lot of more than the wii
>/v/ hates microsoft for focusing on tv and sports with the xbox one and 360
>/v/ loves the ps2 even though sony was heavily advertising it as a dvd player in japan
>/v/ will try and defend this

>>379505196
PS2 had games. WiiU and Switch don't.

>>379505196
>ps2 underpowered at release
Nah

Everything else you said is true though.

>>379504772
t. Jim "Cum on his face" Sterling

You're clinically retarded if you think Analog sticks are more accurate than fucking gyro and KI:U at the very least

>>379505324
Weak as a DC but with a DVD player.

Gamecube and Xbox literally destroy it

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Games are escapism.

That's not an insult. That's how things are. Games will never get better again until people are honest with themselves and say that they want to escape reality.

There is so much resistance to calling games escapism, as if everything that isn't economically utilitarian is sinful and must be purged.

>>379501385
He said inconvenient -truths- anon.

That's the popular meme opinion on /v/.

The inconvenient truth is that overwatch is a good game that's extremely polished and as a result is EXTREMELY successful. It's just that FPS games, especially competitive ones, don't usually cater to narrative focus and thus the fan base isn't used to and thus rejects all the character driven shit that "has nothing to do with the game"

They also resent the influx of new players that wouldn't play it if not for the narrative shit because these new players are seen as "casual" Interlopers in the eyes of an FPS veteran.

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Framerates and resolution aren't that important.

>>379505916
This. wish I could play GTAV with Windwaker graphics :(

Overwatch is the best multiplayer FPS released in a decade.

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Most games aren't pure shit like /v/ drones on about. Almost all games have problems with them, but are often still enjoyable regardless. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece, and the trend of making ironic metacritic threads has destroyed most /v/ users outlook on videogames.

>>379505196
>>/v/ loves the ps2 even though it was underpowered at release
it wasn't, you retard. Wii U and Switsch came out well after the competition, the PS2 was the first to come that gen
>>/v/ loves the ps2 even though it sold a lot of more than the wii
difference is stuff like wii fit wasn't marketed as a selling point for the ps2 (in fact, my parents bought wii fit it's pretty ok honestly)
>>/v/ hates microsoft for focusing on tv and sports with the xbox one and 360
>>/v/ loves the ps2 even though sony was heavily advertising it as a dvd player in japan
I don't remember any E3 conference where they talked 30 minutes about the dvdplayer for the ps2. And it was a different time, having a dvdplayer was a HUGE pro because the technology was in its infancy and everyone wanted it.

8/8 made me reply

>>379501286

How every game/genre is converging to a singular, "proven" formula for success choking original ideas and concepts out of the medium and all games are just becoming derivatives of other games.

See: Earthbound inspired indie shit, TLoU/TWD-esque parent child feeloffs, MOBAs in general, comeback mechanics in fighting games, etc.

>>379501286
Videogames are for virgin degenerates. Just go fuck a girl and pay for the alimony already lmfao retard.

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>>379506000
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>>379505709
This, but they range from full blown addiction (such as gambling, drugs, alcohol) to light escapism (TV and movies). They aren't a productive hobby (you don't make anything, like watching TV, travelling or reading books). You might say you're making experiences or video game skills, but at the end of the day you just used a .exe to modify a savefile.

Having a productive hobby to go alongside games is great tho, such as motorcycles, guns, cars, wood/metalworking, diy and so on.

>>379506249
>alimony
too close to home, man not cool.

>>379505873
t. shill

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>>379505709
what's the fucking deal with that? everything is escapism if you do it for fun and with no profit. books, music and movies included

>>379505709
having fun isn't escapism, anon.

>>379506007
Getting away from this place for a few months and realizing that it's okay for games to be just okay helped me fall in love with this hobby again.

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Nintendo's virtual console is a fucking bullshit ripoff.

>On Wii everything was obtuse points that got really stupid and forced you to buy more than you needed (Microsoft is also guilty of this but at least stopped)
>Games come out in a slow drip feed, for every good release like Mega Man or Mario there's weeks of garbage
>If your Wii got fucked, too bad either buy them all over again or sit on the phone arguing with a Nintendo rep who wanted you to name off every single game you owned
>Wii U comes out, transfer your shit
>Not everything can come over
>If you wanna use your shiny new tablet you have to pay money to access games you already own on the Wii U side of the OS
>Once again if you Wii U gets fucked you still have to sit and argue with a Nintendo rep or just buy them all over
>Games that come out on 3DS ALSO need to be bought, you can't just download it for free
>Once again have to be drip fed all over
>Switch comes out
>Time will tell if we have to buy our shit again (protip, we probably will)
>NES Netflix shit coming with the account system, no idea if you can play them offline in portable mode like they keep pushing with the Switch
>Meanwhile on Sony all the PS1 games I've bought I can play across my PSP, Vita, Vita TV
>When my PS3 died and I had to get a new one I got to download all my shit with no hiccups
>Hurrr but you can't play your shit on PS4!!!
>Implying that fucking matters when I have like four Vita TVs I got on super clearance for like $10 a pop in each room of my house

I love Nintendo and Sony, Microsoft can eat a dick.

But you are LYING to yourself if you think Nintendo isn't nickel and diming you every single fucking step of the way.

>>379501286
Competitive matchmaking is a fucking bust.
Does anyone know of a game where the community was overall satisfied with its matchmaking algorithm?
Manually organizing a scrim between teams and setting up a dedicated server, possibly with plugins to keep track of stuff, takes longer and requires more dedication but is so much more effective at making good, matched games.

Casual matchmaking systems that try to match up similar skill levels are also all complete failures.

>>379506592
If you're having fun you're not facing and solving your life's problems.

>>379506007
There are far too many great games in the world to waste your time on a mediocre game for any longer than is necessary to identify it.

Knowingly taking part in a mediocre game is bad tastes, plain and simple

Despite the toddposting, skyrim is a good game.
It does have many flaws and bugs, but that doesnt completely ruin the work that was put into it.

>>379502325
Are you serious? This is pure nostalgia. Warcraft 3 is the most basic shit ever. Their writing was never any good.

>>379506845
Not everyone is a depressed sack of shit that has problems that need solving at all times m8
Stop projecting your shit life into everyone else.

The vast majority of people play games to entertain themselves. You think the average guy that buys a ps4 for sports vidya is playing that shit for escapism?

Fighting games are 100% not meant to be played online.

>>379505873
>good game
>shit tier gameplay
heh

>>379506867
I'd be interested to hear what games you consider great.

>>379507056
and somehow it got worse.

MMOS are dead because of unrealistic player expectations and investor troubles.

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EVERYTHING that was considered cancerous in 7th gen started in 6th gen. but because most of /v/ grew up with 6th gen consoles they dont want to admit to it.

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Sony doesn't care about gaming and only use the playstation as a platform to keep their hardware manufacturing pride afloat.

>>379507192
It really didn't, it started off average and it stayed average. It's been shallow garbage with shallow one dimensional characters since day 1. The allure has always been the fantasy setting. There is 0 difference between arthas getting frosourne and going nuts in one scene than guldan resetting time or whatever the fuck he's done since wod.

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Traps are gay.

>>379506932
Eh, I personally found the combat underwhelming and the story a bit slow.

>>379501739
The investment in the pc pays itself back through all the free games you get for it, which is why it's worth it for most pc-gamers

>>379507401
Isn't the gaming division the only one raking millions second to the financial division?

That statement would be more true with MS.

>>379507402
>and it stayed average
bullshit.

>There is 0 difference between arthas getting frosourne and going nuts in one scene than guldan resetting time

even the example you give already shows how things got worse, I don't get why you're trying to be contrarian here.

>>379501286
waifufags and SJWs are taking over the industry and making it shittier

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>>379507424
liking dicks is NOT gay
woman are phallic objects

>>379507351
if you mean easy access to online multiplayer and the technical invention of dlc sure
but dancing and singing games never really took off among normies no matter how much the gaming companies wanted them to, instead regular games started catering to non-gamers

Stagnant water is a breeding ground for mosquitoes, stagnant industry is a breeding ground for early access trash and dlc riddled AAA games

>>379507571
I'm not. At all. I love wc3 and all the vanilla lore and don't even like wow anymore. But let's not act like Warcraft 3 wasn't always dragon ball z level of simple. Bad guy starts off friendly, gets corrupted by something, starts going nuts, has to be stopped, rinse and repeat. There's depth in the lore sure, but if we're talking about just straight up main canon, it was never anything special. You have nostalgia glasses on big time

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>>379507546
They don't care about gaming at all. They are literally only using the Playstation as a platform to keep afloat and milk it for thier other divisions. They do not reinvest money made on PlayStation into playstation. It usually goes to hardware development or box office flop movies.

I feel like people on here, and just people in general, not all, don't have their own opinions, and are just parroting what everyone else is saying so they fit in.

Gaming can be more addictive than any narcotic. We've known this forever when it comes to 'real gambling', it's just snuck up on us in videogames as they've devolved into slot machines. Overwatch and CS:GO are literally gambling software, full stop. There is no getting around it.

Consoles are inherently anticompetitive in nature and create value for no one but their creators. Also the big two+one are always operating in trust together to lock out others. You really think it's natural that dominance oscillates wildly each generation? It's the same shit as Coke and Pepsi or McDonalds and Burger King. It's an industry being sewn up.

>>379506395
>>379507125
>Salty fps players raging against something new

As I said....

>>379507817
you realize even dragon ball z levels of simple can get worse, right?
My point is that they got worse, not that the original was amazing.

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>>379501532
>M and AO rated games are for children

>>379507846
That is definitely a problem. I was disgusted last year when House mentioned he wanted to merge the profitable gaming division with the schumer infested movie division sinkhole.

You have a genuine point anon, although I see it as a potential risk for the near future and not an already prevalent problem. Lets see what E3 has in store.

Dedicated servers and community-created content are becoming a thing of the past AND I HATE IT.
I'm honestly shocked how much of nu-/v/ doesn't know about the importance of those two things.

>>379502006
Are you serious?
I spent like ~300 McBucks on my rig, and can play Fallout 4 on high.
People who claim PC is more expensive can't into market research.

>>379501286
Hyping people into preordering trash works.

>>379507741
>dancing and singing games never really took off among normies
t.basement dweller
normies love that shit. but it's for the occasional famuly reunion day or some party games. they dont play it everyday. that's what a smartphone is for.

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>>379508180
It's been a problem for years in case you haven't noticed. There is a reason they introduced a kikestarter on stage instead of just funding it.

Also here's another Truth.
Kojima is a good idea man, but he sucks at making games without a copilot keeping his crazy shit in check. MGS5 was shit because of him, not Konami

>>379505873
It is extremely polished, but it's also stripped of many standard features people expect in FPS games (fall damage, ammo) in favor of attracting the MOBA audience with cooldowns and ultimates, along with fucking dozens of ways to stun, slow, or make other players easier targets.

>>379507963
>Gaming can be more addictive than any narcotic.
Then why don't nerds steal or mug like crackhead nigs do?
Because that's what serious addiction looks like.

Am I the only one who feels like a crash in the industry is approaching? Maybe not a crash, but a drastic change in it. MS is basically giving up on consolles. The Scorpio will be their last attempt at salvage the corpse of the Bone but they'll probably be surprised when it's going to flop. Sony is doing fairly well but like some other anon said they leech it to compensate for that shit-shooting / money-bleeding machine gun which is the movie department. We'll see in a couple of years if the Switch will be successful, but even then, I think it won't break any record and will probably do just enough good for them to invest on another consolle after that.

>>379508031
Not saying you're wrong, but I guess we're just arguing opinions at this point when it comes to quality. I replayed wc3 yesterday and it's great still, but the dialogue and story felt so corny compared to what my mind remembered.

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Mobile games, despite having little content and barebones gameplay, still have a spot here in /v/. FE Heroes threads are still going strong despite it being months after release.

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>>379501739
This.

Made up statistic here, but I think that 80% of people that spend thousands to make a "high end rig" only end up playing mid-low range shit like Overwatch and mostly browsing the internet anyway.

The only reason to buy an expensive PC would be if you're into graphix and you wanna render video/resource heavy stuff.

t. have a gtx 750 which is considered "crap tier" and I still havent found a game that is unplayable.

>>379508537
yeah, you are the ONLY person to make this prediction

>>379508080
M and AO rates games are for edgy teens who jump into shockvalue to pretend they are adults.

>>379507963
>Gaming can be more addictive than any narcotic.
You have to be a legit retard to actually think that.
Not in the meme way, you are worst than facebook-notaskedfor-opinion posters.

>>379508690
teens are not children so you proved yourself wrong anyway

>>379501739
Agreed.
Although I did upgrade from a 770 to a 1070 last year because some games were running kinda shit

The future of creativity and progress of the medium lies in indie games and crowdfunded projects. AAA has become blockbuster movies/fast food and there's no real hope for innovation, only further regression. "Indie" is still a dirty word to some people and it's a shame.

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>>379501286
video games do encourage violent thoughts and antisocial behaviour. everyone here knows it but nobody, especially not the industry devs themselves, want the norms to know we know

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>>379507959
I agree. I think it's because this place and other places of popular discussion have a very high rate of posting, so it's much easier to spam memes for attention rather than think carefully about what you personally believe.
If so, this also explains why slower boards and threads are often "comfier" and have higher quality discussion with less shitposting (or at least, more creative shitposting).

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All consoles, including pc, are exactly the same except for one or two marginal differences and a couple of exclusives.
The only reason console wars still exist are because people irrationally defend the console they own and want to pretend they made the right choice through mindless tribalism.

>>379508537
Good. Time has shown the correlation that more people playing vidya->shittier vidya.

>>379508615
Well, to be honest I've been having this impression for a couple of years now. Dunno man, I just feel like something big is going to happen within the next five to ten years. Just wanted to say it.

Gamers are the reason gaming companies are using slimy design and monetization. They willingly pay for it.

>>379501751
this expands my dong *lenny*

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Players are becoming harder to please

>>379508214
I'm not exactly new, but I stuck to singleplayer games during that era. No fond memories of fun with friends' servers...

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>>379508887

>>379508537
I think the big 3 console companies are definitely gonna suffer. Blizzard and valve seem to be doing completely fine. Indie devs aren't affected by this at all. The problem is AAA devs are trying so hard to capitalize on the graphic trend and turn games into movies that they're bankrupting themselves to push these games out so quickly at the behest of these publishers and investors.

Game doesn't recoup it's 60 million dollar marketing cost and the 20 it took to cost the game? You're dev team gets reassigned to mobile games. Game industry seems like a fucking shark tank and I genuinely feel bad for the devs that went into that industry just wanting to make fun games for people

>>379508485
>Because that's what serious addiction looks like.
no, it isn't. addiction is not defined by eventually turning to violent crime to feed your addiction. most addicts are 'functional', and feed their addiction through completely legal means. the harm in addiction is not that it will eventually lead to a nigger mugging you, it's that it reduces people to something borderline-subhuman (generally incapable of generating new value).

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>>379501286
Microsoft single-handedly fucked the gaming industry by introducing purely for-profit tactics as opposed to hiring actual creative teams to develop enduring in-house console-exclusive franchises that could compete with others.

>Throwing money around to purchase timed Exclusivity deals.
>Throwing money around to score multiplats for companies that could only logically afford to focus on one, which compromised development integrity and content, thus creating the disaster known as "console parity".
>Rushed the 360 to launch just to be ahead of the competition by a year, which irresponsibly lead to the piracy boom as 360 used outdated dvd tech-which cost third-party developers billions when standardizing Blu-ray was more secure, making the move to multiconsole releases less profitible than retaining some console exclusive franchises.
>Enforcing a code of charging devs extra for exceeding a disk for game content, further catapulting losses for devs who needed more than 1 disk to have a full game and outright causing FF13 and the developments around it and 13 versus to be butchered to hell narratively and on a fundamental game design level due to "singular world map cohesion" being impossible in multi-disc form on the level SE originally intended it to, shaving 13 to a sort of "corridor of story path" After SE had already broken ground with 12 and open-world games had begun become "the norm".
>Perpetrating draconian and pointlessly restrictive limits on what data and graphical limits can be in a game in the downloadable form, further increasing parity and resulting in the overbloat of DLC and day-one practices as Developers now have to take into account certain limitations and under-mark their production and complete it post-launch as dlc/patch.
>overblown budget on advertising Halo franchise, causing the FPS genre to be spotlighted, resulting in mass dev focus to be far less creative and attempting to emulate the contemporary genre's aesthetic and marketing.

>>379508214
Just look at tf2 , the game started almost entirely community driven and now it feels like valve is desperately trying to kill community involvment (MvM, spray killing).
I fucking hate it, this makes games impossible to future proof.

>>379509125
Fuck off tripfag

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The Switch is successful because it's captured the same magic that Nintendo did when they released the Gameboy. Console like games you can play anywhere. It will probably end up just as successful despite all the shitposting from ACfag

>>379508717
His post is melodramatic as fuck, but he's not wrong in theory. Are you seriously doubting that people can't get insanely addicted to anything?

You think there aren't people that hate csgo, league, dota2, overwatch etc etc that keep playing it for more loot crates, or to get the endorphin rush from getting a new rank? Regardless of whether they're having fun or not? Cmon.

>>379501739
This. I still don't understand why people buy rigs that cost more than a thousand dollars when for $800 you can play just about every modern game on max settings.

>>379509471
>>379501739
Some people like future proofing so they don't have to worry about it for a long ass time. There's nothing wrong with that.

>>379502720
>never touched halo, COD or battlefield
no. i really didn't

>>379509383

that doujin tho, what was its name again?

>>379509438
I didn't deny videogames can cause addiction, but he said they're more addictive than drugs which is factually wrong and retarded. You have to have serious problems in the first place if you get addicted to videogames, or have some contextual problems anyway (like bad parenting). You don't have to have any of those to start smoking.

collecting video games is pointless because eventually all that shit and your consoles is gonna stop working.

>>379509125
You forgot that they introduced paid online and bought out all the games media outlets to bury the PS3 at launch. I ain't defending the price tag but those launch PS3s are a collectible today.
Scorpio will launch soon and it will be the most expensive system out of the available options. Ironic.

>>379509761
by that logic collecting anything is pointless considering this flying rock we live on will eventually get eaten by the sun

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>>379501286
If you want a healthy fanbase you must never have some sort of animal character. Furries, and the anti-furries, are so bad they bring in shittons of drama and embarrassment. Productive discussions will rearely happen if they happen at all

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The Wii did more to harm Nintendo than help it, and people are too blinded by nostalgia and hero worship to see it.

The Wii U and Switch only made it worse, there is no redeeming the Switch it's going to end up like the Wii U.

>>379508485
We have people who neglect education or work to play games. We have people who literally died because they played so much they ignored sleeping, eating and drinking.

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A game with great gameplay and a shitty story is still a great game.

A game with great story and mediocre gameplay is probably bad, mediocre at best. No amount of presentation or pseudo-philosophy can save a game from being boring as shit during the actual play part.

An easy game is also a bad game, doubly so if it has no difficulty options or the options only fuck with damage numbers.

So, in short, The Witcher 3 and Nier Automata are mediocre games vastly overrated by young people who don't know any better or people who think story is a feature.

>>379509678
Groove Tube

>>379501286
Cyberpunk worlds > fantasy worlds

>>379509884
lol stay mad

>>379509098
>Committing crime and fucking murdering people to fuel your addiction is not "serious"
Addiction IS defined by how much it interferes with normal functioning, and threatening to kill or selling your body for a short high is wayyyy more extreme than being a neet.
Crack cocaine, meth and alcohol lead to violent, desperate methods of maintaining the addiction far more reliably than fucking video games. You can't talk your way around this. Video games are not more addictive than narcotics.

Not even getting into opium and morphine.

>>379509125
Karma has caught up with them now though. But this stuf was going to happen sooner or later anyway. If not ms someone else. It's how these corporations work.
>>379509763
Didn't mmos technically start paid online?

>>379505916
>he says, giving an example of a game that he enjoys BECAUSE it can easily run at 144fps and 4k

framerate always matters. best guesses for imperceptible framerate is something over 300fps.

resolution is starting to hit imperceptible levels already, for common flat displays (50" and less from less than 10' away), but VR HMDs will eat up a ton more, so much (Valve+Zenimax figured it may be over 30k per-eye) that we'll almost surely see radically different new tech instead (eg. Avagants DLP, fiber-optic collation, etc.)

>>379501286
gaming peripherals aren't that good for the most part, and definitely not worth the money for the overwhelming majority of them
female comp teams are created only for publicity and company/sponsor brownie points, they aren't even expected to win anything

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>>379507424
I accepted this long ago

>>379509471
Not just future proofing but going above 1080.

>>379508773
While some indie devs try to experiment, 90% of these games are copies of a popular idea. There's a reason why indie is associated with 2d pixelated platformer.

>>379510091
It's that other 10% that matters though

>>379508916
This is actually really true, overall polish of games has skyrocketed and consumers typically demand a lot more of games now a days. At least half of the games released during the 6th gen would flop if they released today with a fresh coat of paint.

That slight clunkyness of the PS2 just ain't tolerated anymore.

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>>379509979
n-no you

>>379501459
like

>>379504307
Almost every prop in the game reacts to the player or bullets, the AI was "smart", dynamic lighting, bullet-time that actually felt good to use, jump-kicks, impressive graphics for the time, great levels designed around firefights
Not that anon, but F.E.A.R. was incredibly ahead of its time. It's one of the only games I claim to be cinematic without the use of cutscenes

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Heroes of the Storm is an incredibly well developed arcade style MOBA that I believe most people would enjoy but isn't given a chance due to unwarranted Blizz hate and current MOBA players unwilling to jump ship from their current MOBA.

>>379501628
>1k images
huh

>>379508916
What game is that from?

>>379509947
>We have people who neglect education or work
>We have people who literally died
Sounds like your average severe alcohol abuser. And it happens far, far more often to alcoholics than it does to gaming addicts.
Nobody's denying that gaming can be an addiction. But it's not in the same ballpark as fucking drugs in terms of pathology.

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>>379508916
>>379510213
are you fucking serious? many AAA games these day run like dogshit at launch, D1 patches are a common thing, and many high tier productions are carbon copies of each others. just think of how many games have tps mechanics with over the shoulder camera to aim
if anything it's the exact contrary

>>379508916
>players are becoming harder to please

>a game about stackng blocks of dirt on top of another blocks of dirt sold gorrilion copies
>a game about sitting in place and closing doors was popular as fuck some time ago
>people will eat up any AAA garbage as long as it's not nuSimCity level of blunder
try again

skill levels in most competitive video games depends not on how much you play, but on how intelligent you are. When you play competitive you're basically taking a really long IQ test

>>379510435
The best parts of hots are the map objectives and the characters. There's a ton of things this game does wrong too. It does get lots of hate, but a lot of it is warranted as well. It's the moba for people that don't want to put effort into mobas

>>379509125
i mean she was probably date raped right

>>379501286
Kojima has had a net negative effect on the gaming industry due his popularity proliferating cinematic games.

>>379510201
What indie games were truly innovative?
I would say off the top of my head that maybe only Minecraft was something unusual, and even then it's essentially virtual Lego.
And then it spawned never ending stream of early access survival shit games.

There are good games, but they are not anything new. Stardew Valley is basically Harvest Moon clone. FTL or Risk of Rain have not invented rogue-likes. Super Meat Boy is just a 2d platformer with extra stuff added for difficulty.

>>379501739
7800 series here. The only recent game to give me trouble is d44m and that's partially on my end.

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>>379509125
>longtime devs with A+ stellar and trusted reputations who flocked to 360 due to early launch had recoup costs with scummy nickel-and-dime practices as well as microtransactions and massively began cutting down on what franchises would be given attention. Capcom was especially crippled by massive losses due to this fact.
>Newer developers contradicted themselves and outed themselves as incompetent by complaining about the PS3 being more difficult to use when in truth, they never adapted to any real new technology whatsoever as the 260 was NEVER new, advanced or groundbreaking techh at the time. New, inexperienced devs (individual persons with no pre-existing industry clout before last gen) simply presumed it was easier to work with, when in truth, older devs were always used to having to adapt and work with newer technology and more advanced/complex hardware. Microsoft literally benefitted from this legitimate rookie-born incompetence by word of mouth-in doing so, actively damaged potential future dev interest in wanting to work with more technologically challenging and secure hardware.
>Routinely drags devs down the mud of the "Daniel Craig Cycle" Where a dev team or company/group is good at trying to create whatever vision they want, but are ignored and discarded because MS wants them to be known for working on "project x" even if the audience would be better receptive to "subject y". (like how daniel craig was always a good actor, but is trying to do his damndest to avoid playing James bond any longer, no matter how much money is thrown at him.) This is why Bungie just gave the fuck up on Halo and sold it to MS (it had already veered too far from marathon as-is) and precisely the catastrophe treatment that MS gave to Rare.
>Spent every single year of 360's presence at E3 pushing "bullshit marketing" and mastering the art of "bullshits" and phony performances, such as the star wars kinect debacle.
>Routinely entertained Peter Moloneux's delusions.

>>379506000

It's not how good it is, its how bad the competition is

>>379510635
Papers Please and Undertale

>>379501286
Men over 25 years now are gaming market inside children or teenage, meaning want more mature story but still don't adult story,nostalgic is huge boost sale end up industry hate begin eternal teen on play by "adults".

>>379501286
I miss her

>>379510635
Do total conversion mods count as indie games? Because that's the origin of most of the biggest multiplayer games on the market.

>>379510635
Braid

>>379510605
What? No. Kojima has been doing that shit for decades, and outside of MGS none of his games are anything but niche cults at best.

>>379509981
>i like to suck puppies off and drink their prepubescent puppy-piss-jizz
boy, making up quotes sure is fun!

>You can't talk your way around this. Video games are not more addictive than narcotics.

It's basically invalid to compare substance and behavioral addictions at all, and arguing over petty 'which is worse' is missing the point. Get your autism checked out.

the point i'm making is that gaming can be as serious a problem as we've always known gambling to be, and it deserves attention right now as we see what could be the beginning of its emergence as a real public health issue (with the mobile-style freemium model cancer starting to spread across the entire industry).

>>379510583
I agree. It's far from perfect. And alot of matches can be ruined by a single teammate but I do think people who do not enjoy the MOBA genre would enjoy this game but it often gets dismissed immediately.

>>379501286
Wendy's puts too much fucking lettuce on everything.

>>379510806
In english now.

>>379510538
>people will eat up any AAA garbage
TORtanic
Starcraft II (forgotten within weeks)
Diablo III (genuinely good, ruined by auction)
FF14 (before Realm Reborn)

>>379504554
Eh, something I'd counterpoint: how many pre-xp games are unplayable in Windows 10? How many will be with W11?

>>379506749
The VC is the moralfags way of making them feel like they bought something, even though it fucking sucks and an emulator made by a hobbyist will be 10 times more accurate with better and more graphics options, for free.

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There's nothing wrong with story focused games, even ones where the game feels like a movie, if the story is good enough to warrant that level of attention.

>>379511040
was it so hard to read the rest of the sentence you ADHD ridden cumguzzler

>>379511040
rare things with many aggravating circumstances

>>379510802
Papers Please was pretty cool, but I can't say it was influential. Undertale is definitely heavily inspired by JRPGs like Mother 2.

>>379510893
I can agree with you that mods were really important in making gaming what it is today. Counter Strike and Dota started as mods. Portal was originally a student project. DayZ helped create the military survival early access shitstream that we see today.

>>379510910
2d platfomer with time travelling element. Not exactly new.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_containing_time_travel#Time_travel_as_a_gameplay_element

>>379511251
like being shitty games?

people play MMOs to try to get into a relationship

>>379501847
Can't be helped. The average person is just looking for something to pick up and play for a few hours.

Which is how the various DLC schemes get by. "Welp, done with this. Oh hey, there's a bit more, guess I'll get it."

It's like movies, really, how many are just something to kill an hour and a half? Very, very few will even be remembered by the end of the year, let alone a decade or two down the line.

>>379505873
>1/3 of the characters are unplayable level bad
>Maps are absolute shit, just a series of choke points

>Polished

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>>379510959
You shouldn't get this butthurt when your arguments get refuted anon.
You directly compared games to narcotics and are now pretending you it was actually about gambling all along. Even then, gambling has and probably will continue to have far more potential for an addict to destroy himself due to a variety of factors as history has shown, so you're incorrect in this as well.

>>379506845
but i solved my problems. i got a job which made me be sociable and got friends and got laid
i still want to play games because they're fun

not everyone is a whiny little bitch

>>379510397
The AI literally just spawned behind you but had audio clips that pretended they were flanking you.

>>379501286
DLC isn't the problem, pre-ordering is.
All consoles are a gimmick to secure developers and double dip on both hardware and software sales
e3 is one of the worst things to happen to consumers
E-celeb/lolcow culture completely destroyed gamergate. Neither side could avoid shitflinging in their ranks, but having a mature medium and a lack of direct names to attack gave journalists the guise of a moral high ground.

>>379509958
This is down to personal preference, you dolt. Nothing objective about it.

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Kikerosoft and other companies trying to copy their policies is almost single-handedly responsible for ruining gaming.

Everything from the PS1/N64 days aged terribly and there isn't much reason to replay almost any of them.

>>379511326
yes. problem isn't that people buy shitty games (which still happens), but that they buy the same average one with a different coat of paint over it. your examples don't mean shit.

>>379508787
>violent thoughts
Keyword on 'thoughts'
I constantly think about how someone in a situation could die, even if they are completely safe.

>>379511327
this is the dumbest shit I've read all day, maybe true for 5% of mmo players

>>379501286
nickle and dime strategies are going to become even more prevalent, soon there will be no purchasable full games

Videos games as a whole are the best they've ever been at this moment in time. We like to think the games we've played growing up were better but they really weren't.

They were new and exciting when we were kids and very challenging not because they were actually hard but because we were children and children can't do shit.

Most of us have been playing video games for over 20 years now. 20 years of practice is the reason why games feel so short and easy now. 20 years of the same hobby is why we are no longer impressed with new games coming out.

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>>379501286
Video games will never be a form of art, because its consumers are childish, narcissistic idiots, who are incapable of understanding deep emotions or any philosophical questions more advanced than your average sci-fi can provide.

It's a fucking cash grab, and they milk you. DLCs? Pre orders? Fuck.

Indie devs are the most pretentious and smug people I've ever seen.

Since WoW TBC-WoTLK Blizzard didn't produce anything remarkable.

Jap games > Western games

>>379511418
>gambling has and probably will continue to have far more potential for an addict to destroy himself due to a variety of factors as history has shown
yes, which is why I initially simplified with my 'more addictive than any narcotic' line, which your autism seized upon. sorry for triggering you.

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Gamers are just as sexist, rascist, homophobic, and violent as the media and MOM groups claim they are.

Gamers obviously refuse to accept that because they want to continue being aggressive and ignorant.

from my personal experience with online games and forum communities, not all, but a huge majority of gamers are extremely angry and bitter about everything, and hold contempt for anyone not a part of their club.
Skill in videogames almost directly equates to how angry some people are.
The higher your rank or tier, the more prestige in games people get, the more secluded they become and more aggressive towards outsiders who don't care about their achievements.

>>379501286
You pay for internet, on top of your Live/Plus/Netflix/Play/Streamers/Etc subscriptions like a schlubby pleb.

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Video games are a total waste of time compared to other leisure activities.

>Don't exercise your body like sports
>Not yet creative enough to make you smarter like reading books

Games still require physical controls.

>>379510721
You're getting ignored but you're absolutely right.

>>379505324
PS2 was easily the least powerful console of the sixth generation, except the Dreamcast if it even counts. Everyone knew that at the time.

>>379501739
This. It's not only a great cost-saving method but there's no point spending over $1,000 when you can get what you need usually for less than $900 since shit is never optimized

>>379511534
you mean pirate
I don't account for consoleplebs here, since they aren't people

>>379510945
Mgs did cause a lot of cinematic heavy shit to start gaining traction. A game as cinematic as mgs was unheard of until it came out

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>>379511610
>i dont ACTUALLY care about my analogy, i only tried to defend it for the past 5 posts
>anyone who refutes me is autistic
lol

Piracy is healthy to the video game industry

>>379511653
This is pretty accurate.

It didn't become as apparent until the xbox 360 launched with a headset. Giving everyone a voice was the worst thing any company ever did, and it showed just how shitty people who play games really are.

>>379501385
The great thing about Overwatch is that it provided countless hours of fapping and I never needed to play the game.

>>379507401
>Pride

NO

corporations don't feel pride or shame. they feel money, and they make decisions based on what makes them money.

>>379511229
Then why don't they make a movie? They have the money, they have the voice actors, all they need to do is to replace the gameplay parts and it would be golden.

>>379501654
>Nintendo has been shooting themselves in the foot since the N64, and they'll never get better because the teenagers that defend their actions will keep buying their games.

fixed

>>379511579
Alot of music is made with the intention of easy cash grab. It doesn't mean it isn't art. It just means it's lousy art. Also anyone who brings up video games being art is a fucking retard. Video games are made from different mediums of art to entertain an audience in an interactive way.

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>>379501286
I'm glad the lady running the Wendy's account left her job. You people idealized her incorrigible behavior much to the point you wanted to fuck the person writing the tweets and you shits have no sense of boundaries because you're not only afraid of dying alone but so desperate for your mentality encased with boobs and vadge, you thought you were entitled to ownership to said person as your future wife.

Shit like this is why people like Anita have a leg to stand on, because you shits try to weigh your own hang-ups with women as though it's a free pass to be a nigh sexual predator. There's only so much your hurt and pain can cover before your actions are more damning than your sob story.

The world's a cruel place, but that doesn't give you a free pass to do evil.

>>379511892
I'd say a certain level of piracy is healthy. But its case by case. But if everyone stopped buying games due to piracy like what happened to Vita then its just bad. So I wouldn't say its always good.

>>379511776
I don't really see what piracy has anything to do with the topic at hand.

>>379511787
the cinematic experience meme started last gen. MGS pushed the games to get better narratives in the 90s, but it's not guilty what's happening now.

>>379511684
>Used to be creative enough to make you smarter like reading books
FTFY
After around 2000 or so was when vidya started to go down hill in terms of creativity and it's ability to make you think.

HL2 gameplay was bad and the story actually isn't glimpses into an intricately crafted world with deep lore, but a barebones plot hastily thrown together to connect the levels.

New IP are few and far between unless you count the indie garbage that's dumped on Steam all the time. Companies will not take risks anymore, and this is heir apparent in Microsoft and Nintendo.

"RPG" has lost all meaning and there should probably be another term to describe action game with loose RPG elements like modern Elder Scrolls and The Witcher

>>379501739
Agreed, build a cheap rig with a 2500k and GTX 960 for less than 300$ and it plays everything I want to play

The industry became controlled by corporations and is just as shitty as any other hobby when it comes to putting money down for quality. In fact.
120.00$USD still buys you the 60.00$ game with some useless shit included.

Pirating hurt the industry

>>379512119
what did they do?

>>379511317
Just because multiple games have time manipulation elements doesn't mean their implementation as game mechanics are identical, especially with regards to level design, or that it automatically means the other games didn't innovate on the concept.
Otherwise you might as well include Castlevania in that list because of the pocketwatch subweapon.

The Japanese game industry is on a decline no matter how you cut it. Not talking about Sony or Nintendo but those that make games and not hardware. Capcom can't even make a Mega Man game to save their lives, and Square doesn't know what to do with Final Fantasy. At least Atlus is enjoying explosive success with P5 but when that's their only cash-crop in the west it doesn't bode well for the future.

I honestly haven't played a Japanese game that truly surprised me since Catherine

>>379511684
This.

Used to spend my free time just grinding out CSGO in aim lobbies thinking it was gonna make me great in the long run. Now it's nice outside and I'm inspired to do shit like run, read, and work on teaching myself guitar

>>379511653
The vocal minority is. Calling someone a fag or little girl is a way to insult someone. Just because I say those doesn't mean I don't like fags or women, its just misinterpreted banter because people don't understand the culture and context of a lot online communities and games.

>>379502543
>tastes like nothing
it tastes like salt.
better than nothing, but my town's got shit for choice anyway.

>>379505916
This. Ps3/xbox360 tier graphics are good to me. I still love playing RDR.

>>379512181
They've never been anywhere near the creative brilliance of the worlds authors though.

Dont get me wrong, I cried with Aerith died in FF7. But no video game has ever come close to the narrative excellence found in novels.

>>379501286
All this knowledge you have of vidya and vidya industries is completely useless outside of internet forums and no one is impressed that you're really good at X game in any social interaction unless by some small miracle that they play it too.

>>379509884
The key difference is that the games and systems will stop working in your lifetime, whereas the sun will fuck everything over long after you and I are dead.

>>379511653
videogames are just the tool to express one's frustration. Playing online with vocal chats is unhealty for kids because they can:
1- get in touch with anyone, even the worst human being imaginable
2- get in touch with older kids/audult withouth any form of protection, which can be harmful anyway. I'm no moral fag at all, but it doesn't take rocket science that for a kid, getting teased and insulted online by an adult, can be extremely frustrating and influence his behaviour when playing.

>>379512360
Simply put, the Wendy's account person had stalkers and when they found out she wasn't bad on the eyes, they demanded nudes and shit because they felt they helped make her big due to the Wendy's meme. She wasn't having any of that and quit her job because of it.

Touted mechanics like spread in Counter strike go only makes the games appealing to autists on v or people with too much time to spare.

Metroid doesn't sell well.

>>379512525
Capcom made dragon's dogma, which is one of the best rpgs ever made imo.

sadly it didn't reach massive popularity like skyrim did

>>379502543
>Fast food burgers
Never ever. Diner or bust.

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Video games are made for normies, by normies.

May I /thread?

>nobody is working to legally allow video games to be archived in the same way as books, film, and music
>pirates are the closest we have to preserving video games for historical shit

Consoles won't die soon, but Microsoft and Sony trying to chase down high-end PC hardware for their new systems is a horrible idea when they would need to re-release their systems each time a significant hardware advancement reaches PC. Devs don't seem to be latching onto the PS4 Pro anyway

The notion that PC gaming is extremely expensive most likely sours most people on buying one for games. To be fair, in comparison to consoles it is pretty pricey and it doesn't help people suggest future-proof rigs that cost over 1,000 dollars.

>>379501286
I want to cum inside Wendy

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>>379511653
>>379511965
>>379512797
why do you come here, reddit?

>>379512762
besides the fact that games from 30 years ago still play fine if kept in good condition, collecting them can be useful to preserve them for the future
I mean in a museum you can find a fragment of a papyrus scroll partially shat on from a cow of 2000 years ago.

>>379512872
why quit her job instead of just ignore them

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>>379501286

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>>379509763
Yes, I was going to get to that. The problem here is that MS is on radio silence about this practice purely because they expected other companies to catch on and exploit it in effect as an apology for the absolute mess that they caused. No company can actually defend the practice if they saw a single day in court for it simply because Sony saw to it that the consumer did have alternative options and Nintendo declared it non-essential as it's still impractical today to expect that having any kind of dedicated server makes the least amount of difference at all when netcode and individual connections are playing a factor.

On that note..
>The above.
>Being the first company ever to start the trend of "throwing shade" at backwards-compatability, in turn diminishing value of franchise quality based on accessibility of previous entries. with no access to previous entries and some companies not willing to produce remasters or remakes, there's increasing chances of new players to dismiss older games without justification even if the one game they played was utter garbage, such as sonic 2006.

>Attempting to enforce Kinect for Nebulous reasons (only attempting to project an idea the way peter M. did, but never comprehending the circumstances/functions/menu-of-action diversity that would need to be registered that entails a current-gen game being played. Kinect, on the most basic of levels, is already outmoded by the SNES controller....and the kinect only existed to 'give the illusion' that they were going to 'stick it to nintendo' and hoped that they would have an idea ready for it if the kinect outsold the wii.) when the device was never practical, even in the concept phase due to having no tangible input device for accurate intent identification.

>>379512943
>Diner
Amen. My local diner has a Salsa Burger that's out of this world. Not to mention a double decker BLT with the crispiest bacon i've ever had

>>379501385
If it was F2P it would be for Brazilians

>>379513009
because we care about you more than your parents do, kid

>>379511653
>Skill
You meant "how skilled they think they are".

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The reason why you post ironic meme's is because it's linked with depression. Your whole life you've been picked and judged on by society and you felt as the internet was your only safe haven for there are others who share your pain.

Now that the internet is becoming more mainstream and soon if not almost the entire world will use it you feel as if your club and culture are being violated. So you result in posting ironically because you think that dry, tasteless or raunchy and edgy humor because you think that it'll drive off people.

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>>379513202
Why are libtards so uncultured and short sighted?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Freedom is the only thing stopping hell.

Dumb libturd kike.

>>379513009
>being from reddit is an insult

Reddit users are superior to 4chan users

>>379501628
>Just a picture of a crying panda bear
What did he meme by this?

>>379512119
KEK, this is genuinely one of the best posts I've read on /v/. I can't tell if it's a shitpost or not but I agree fully. /v/ is no different than the special snowflakes it likes to criticize, it lacks just as much self awareness as everyone else

>>379513326
>>379512119
>>379513385


go where you belong reddit

>>379513106
Probably because she also wanted to branch out to something else. Being paid to throw shade can only do so much for one's mental health.

If you actually liked deep, engaging games you'd be busy buying all of them, but the truth is you can't be arsed to learn that much shit and neither does anyone else.

That's why video games are mindless, easy and entertaining.

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>>379513323

>>379513429
You have to go back

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You make fun and call people and things autism because you yourself want to hide your own autism and find a person who's mind and life is much lower than yours.

I miss the simplicity of my old games, but what we get now are just simply better.

>>379510471
looks like little king story, but not sure.

>>379510550
This is untrue. Some people lack the mechanics and dexterity to perform at gaming. When I play cs go with my friends (inb4 normie get out) who I
-got better grades than in school
-make more money than
-perform better than on Standardized and no standardized testing (was in gate as a kid and scored 2340 on SAT)
-I am not the healthiest of the bunch but far from the least and I'm relatively fit and exercise daily

And I'm the only one of the bunch who is still silver because I can't aim the retarded guns for shit

>>379512953
>toady is a normie

>>379513183
Mine just has basic shit with bacon cheese and fried onions, but at least they have flavor unlike the shit you get at fast food restaurants.

>>379513507
>>379513525

shouldnt you be whining on reddit about how comey didnt impeach Drumpf right about now?

fuck off redditor subhumans

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>>379509125
Microsoft faired better last gen because they launched first, had a lower price, and multi-plats ran better on it compared to PS3 and THE CELL.

But on the other hand the early 360 models were ASS. They were prone to failure and loud as hell. Not to mention Microsoft charged for EVERYTHING. Want to play online? Fork it over. Need wi-fi? Better buy our first-party adapter for $100! Controller out of batteries? How bout $35 for our plug-n-play! DLC? Sorry it's not free!

PS3 got a bad reputation but after Sony ditched the fat PS3 and the awful Spiderman 3 font and rebranded themselved with the PS3 Slim they really made a difference.

>Significant push on new IPs
>Controller with internal batteries that can be charged with a USB cable
>Free online services
>More reliable hardware

>>379513607
How long until he gets hit by a bus so I can get off this ride

>>379510550
this is the stupidest post in this thread, and it's full of stupid posts

>>379511653
>*People are just as
It's not like hate is a problem exclusive to any particular group, it's a human problem, you're just witnessing a space where some people feel more compelled to let out all their bile and vitriol.
And a lot of it is just banter being taken too seriously, get the fuck over it.

>>379510550
intelligence and video game skill have very little to do with each other.

>>379513323
>Freedom
>Conservative

pick one.
Conservatives are just as anti-freedom as the hard left. Remember when Sex and "rock and roll devil music" were horrible sins. Conservatives.
I get that you don't like the way things are moving, but at least it's FORWARD. going backwards will not make things better.

You don't have to hate women because you're not a feminist
You don't have to hate black people because you're not part of black lives matter

Be logical instead of hating everything associated with the people you disagree with

>>379513670
>you'll never be this mad
>you'll never ruin your summer vacations sperging on 4chan

>>379510802
Papers please is a dramatized job sim. Sure it's a more dramatic job but when you think about it it's not anything different than farming/trucking sim gorillion

>>379513560
Initials match the filename, thanks anon.

>>379507424
The truth is that sexuality is a spectrum. You can like jerking it to trap porn and not want to fuck a dude straight up. even if you did, theres absolutely nothing wrong with either.

>>379501286
Mmos dying in the eyes of the public is probably the best thing for the genre. The mmo bubble only regressed the genre back ten years and never went beyond that. Mmos only became more convenient and thus threw away the community/world building mechanics on favor of objective driven endgame.

Natural selection 2 and dirty bomb are the best multiplayer fpses released in the last decade.

Obsessions over politics and sjw killed gaming as a whole as notmalfags continue to focus on needless politics rather than he continual degeneration of mechanics and blatant nickle and diming policies. You played right into their hands and now gaming as a whole suffers for it.

Both western and japanese games are generally shit. For every conematc experience there are enough waifu otaku pandering shit games to last a lifetime. Both represent the bottom of the barrel for their region and only shiteaters pretend otherwise.

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>>379513801
nice assumptions retard but the reason you lost is because the modern left is evolving into the most tyrannical cancer humanity has ever seen, which is why you lost

8 years and we'll win again

>>379513843
>i'll never be neogaf

better than any other outcome tbqhwu cuck

>>379513670
>drumpf drumpf drumpf
Holy shit you couldn't be more reddit if you tried

The video game industry grew too big. Once it became a part of Wallstreet profit was no longer good enough, 'growth' was needed to appease investors. The video game world used to just be for nerdy white/asian males, then the first growth phase was casualization to get normal males. Casualization has peaked and now they're going for the non-white/asian male market (hence the push for minorities) and women. This is why diversity is forced into games, it's all about $$$$ over integrity.

>>379513685
Don Mattrick screwed Microsoft over for this gen with the Xbone by forcing a higher price-tag thanks to Kinect, having no games, and souring several potential customers before launch with their proposed draconian DRM policy.

I'll give Phil Spencer credit for giving Kinect the boot and focusing more on games and promotions, even if it's the same Halo and Gears stuff they've been doing for years

>>379513973
go to /tv/, they get derailed by /pol/ easily

>>379510721
You sir, are very correct.

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>>379513475
I would like to be 14 years old again where the world was still ahead of me and I had all the time in the world to play vidya.

I very much would.

I would like to be 10 years old with a bowl of Cocoa Puffs and unable to contain excitement about new episodes of my favorite Saturday morning cartoons instead of getting myself piss drunk enough to forget my obligations and rewatching reruns to try remember that feeling.

I very much would.

I would like to remember a time when computers were magical and being curious to pick up any game I could just out of sheer curiosity and being open minded to try just about anything rather than base my time and investment on whether or not I can fap to the characters or play between 10 minutes and 5 hours and still get the most out of either.

I very much would.

Times change, but I wish my mentality didn't.

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>>379514058
match me on reddit fellow bernout!

>>379508581
Tetris has very little content and simple gameplay, but its debatably one of the best games of all time. I see your point but there are plenty of mobile games that are actually fun and interesting, the problem is that most of them are riddled with MTs and the like.

Which isnt much different from most AAA titles these days

There is not a single Souls game that is above a 7/10.

You know it to be true.

>>379514247
>Willingly becoming a wagekek
You only have yourself to blame.

>>379511398
>opinions stated as facts

>>379513795
This
In high school my dumbass spic friend was the bet at cod

>>379513597
>>379513757

Obviously stephen hawking is never going to contribute to a ctf map in quake (I know he has some special device to move the cursor and probably has some equivalent to a keyboard with his tongue, but if it was better than a mouse and keyboard I'm sure gamers would be using whatever he uses by now) I just meant as a general rule.

It's just that when I see someone play either:
>winston
>tornbjorn (in attack)
>tracer

I first get mad at them, but then I remember they're probably intellectually inferior and are simply trying their absolute best to help the team. The thing is stupid people are very frustrating- when you tell them of their bad character pick in voice chat, they get insulted and channel their bitterness, anger and hatred of normal people into their mic like a fucking 5 year old. Then I lose pity for those fucking retards. Obviously I'm not genius- I'm not very good at ranked or overwatch in generally. It's just that I've come to terms with my intellectual mediocrity.

>>379514382
It's never too late to go to school and learn something either. I don't know why wagecucks give up so quickly.

>>379513348
You are just pretending to be retarded, right, kid?

>>379514503
I think you are confusing gitting gud with intelligence.

>>379501286
This shitty smug Wendy faggotry is Vivian 2.0. The sooner it dies, the better

>>379513801
Conservatism like liberalism has it's extremes but the problem is that the left is so extreme these days anything remotely conservative is 'literally Hitlerr'.

To use women rights as an example the modern woman has is way to easy, whereas as Islamic woman is under complete control. Most western conservatives just want women to be more modest, end slut/fat acceptance, and level the playing field by getting rid of affirmative action; in comparison to Islam that is pretty light.

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>>379501286
>esports is a fad
>fps games will always need to run shit clientside therefor will always be hackable and always be filled with cheaters and therefor shit
>dota 2 cant be hacked because vision is serverside and its therefor the most proper pvp game out there right now, but its a boring fucking experience
>pvp killed pve+coop and indie devs hardest thing to tackle is multiplayer meaning we wont get much coop in the years to come other than maybe 2d indie shit
only coop games out right are like monster hunter and resident evil...

Nintendo will literally die out if they keep doing things the way they've been doing them. Without 3rd party support they will fizzle out again. They don't need whatever generic shooter is popular, but they need to at least work with people to ensure the games are made well on their platform

>>379513973
>The reason you LOST
>which is why you LOST
>8 years and we'll WIN again

I didn't lose anything you child, I had no horse in the race. I wasn't running for president, I'm not Hillary, I'm not Bernie, I'm not Jeb (I am Ted Cruz though)

How detached from reality are you that you think normal people treat everything like a game.

>I win you lose haha
this mentality is beyond childish, especially when you're an adult talking about the future of your country. grow the fuck up

Make america great again. yeah and you won't get to be edgy anymore, let the conservatives have their way so you can be on the winning team. get some backbone and start thinking for yourself.

>>379514343
Souls exists because
A. The high difficulty is a meme and makes the no life neckbearda who actually play/finish it feel accomplishment for once in their life
B. The retarded difficulty makes the game stupidly longer than it actually is, which both traps gamers with sunk cost fallacy with their time as well as artificially increases the play hours to make the game seem more worth the price

>>379501286
Regenerating health > Static health and medkits

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>>379513801
>>379513973
>>379514782
this

>>379514831
yeah i made a little mistake in my post i made real quick wtf HILLARY IS PREZ NOW

>I'm not Hillary, I'm not Bernie, I'm not Jeb (I am Ted Cruz though)

this reeks of reddity neogaf """humor"""

go there you emasculated cuck

>>379514842
I like souls and none of this is true, it's a decent ARPG and has a nice world aesthetic

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>>379514831
>this mentality is beyond childish, especially when you're an adult talking about the future of your country. grow the fuck up

see you at spirit cooking tonite! #SheWon ;)

>>379514503
The retarded autistic neckbeard who wastes their life to master a character's kit or a weapons spray pattern or the exact timers on a map's power ups is going to be better than someone smart enough to realize that that's way too much to spend on a videogame

The people you mention are just brain dead trolls or memers

>>379514974
You're literally the new-age missionary/vegan/zealot no one cares about your cause

>>379514547
Nah, it's fine.
I have other reasons why I need to change. It's possible I might need some professional intervention though, so I'll look into it.

>>379505873
Only one detail you're missing. It's a good competitive team-based game because the only RNG mechanic is bullet spread for firing your gun like a retard. In theory it is capable of being a competitive game where individual skill is less accountable and is more focused on the team's skill. In practice it's a fucking mess because of its marketing and the individualistic mindset of its community. It's why all the chill people are up top while all the angry people are middling in competitive. They know that shit happens and are more or less devoted to the concept of a team rather than what "they" are doing.
Meanwhile /v/'s interpretation of a competitive game (along with many others') focuses more on individual skill, which rejects RNG bullshit and enables the ability to carry if they are good enough. Which is pretty cool and arguably funner depending on your experience with teams in games like Overwatch. Most of this time it's going to be overwhelmingly negative due to its other players.

>>379514831
Are you new here? You're trying to have an actual discussion with a shitposter.

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>>379515191
>N-NO ONE CARES FUCK WHITE PEOPLE FUCK DRUMPF

keep the salt coming little man

PS4 is the definitive video game experience and PC master race is a meme created by and for Reddit

>>379514590
>Not knowing something means you're merely pretending

>>379511653
>Skill in videogames almost directly equates to how angry some people are.
There's correlation to a point but the angriest people are always the ones with the least skills in any games.

Even if you can't have a thousand things you want, you will end up way, way less bitter if there's one thing you like and are good at.

>>379515301
I can't believe you have so many images to shitpost with

>>379514881
Patrician taste is combination of both like halo 1

>>379514782
That's true, but it doesn't make conservatives less worse.

The neckbeards online are just as bad as the tumblr dykes outside.

Their only response to feminism and Leftism is to just be as racist and offensive as possible under the banner of conservatism.

>Most western conservatives just want women to be more modest
it's worse than that. they are bargaining for control over something they shouldn't have control of in the first place.

Islam and Western conservatism are both cancer. Although right now Conservatives hate Muslims, they are actually different shades of the same color.

Open world games are the cancer killing the industry because all the production value goes into the "open world" rather than the actual gameplay. Thus you end up with an empty open world and repetitive missions you can barely tell the difference from in both main, secondary, and side quests.

>>379501532
This has not been true for at least two decades.

>>379513165
>Making the last gen all about fleeting bragging rights that would be valuable for no longer than a week, made most notable with the 360 first-launch startup message of being "the most powerful console on the planet." and followed up by a disaster spell after of RROD.

>Trying to take a shit on customers with the XBone to lock out the concept of gamesharing.

>Entering the gaming industry and doing sleazy sideways deals with no-name devs wih a super-shitty dev deadline for two whole console gens straight just to be able to brag at having "70+ plus titles at launch!!" despite it being mostly clusters of unpolished, broken far-beneath-average nonsense at launch, literally the advent and creation of "Shovelware" and masterfully spinning this to make it look like only the competition was guilty of it, only dismissing it by dodging the fact and rubbing Xbox Live in people's faces.

>Straight up disrespected Bruce Lee by making a game about him just one of their 'express shovelware for our ad campaign' ploys.


Jesus, I can't fucking stop. I could single-handedly bring the post count to 500 if I could beat the posting rate of other topics and not get dropped to archive by new thread influx. The list just goes on and on.

The fact that MS is even in the console industry is laughable considering that PC gaming has better clout than it while Nintendo has world-renowned and best-known historical franchise cred to it's Name and the in-house creativity to back it up with new franchises and ideas while Sony has always been prominently been a big alternative for up-and-coming third parties to develop on as a "artisan" brand, which is why franchises like GTA even got as big as it did in the ps2 era and why Squaresoft fucking exploded in the PS1 Era.

>>379514247
"It all goes back in the box."
Honestly though, spend time pining over it or just deal with it and find something you don't yet understand and that offers mystery until it doesn't and keep doing that until you run out of things because you never actually will.

>>379512305
>2500k
>GTX 960
>less than 300$
I hope you don't mean less than 300$ for the whole rig cause both the CPU and GPU cost ~300/more than 300 each.

There will never, ever, EVER be a good warhammer 40k game again

>>379515645
>The fact that MS is even in the console industry is laughable
don't worry anon, they're clearly taking the way out

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>>379515428
my shitposting database will be a national treasure one day

>>379515503
>Their only response to feminism and Leftism is to just be as racist and offensive as possible under the banner of conservatism.

meanwhile in reality, pol is more diverse than modern (((liberals))) by a country mile

>>379515715
what's the best one? I'm playing dark crusade now and it's fun. never played anything warhammer related before

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>>379515645
The only reason MS even set foot in the industry with the first xbox was to knock on sony because of the PS2 looking to be encroaching on the stranglehold MS had on being the de-facto "multimedia preference." and that alone is enough for business sens to consider that "sony is the competitor and 'looking' better than they do with a game console of our own will scare them away." was their entire gameplan, but they basically turned the gaming industry to a graphical lensman arms race with Sony instead of creating a single damn thing of substance that hasn't actively damaged the industry.

The fact that they don't even try to dignify Nintendo as a competitor says it all, because realistically, MS has gone 3 generations straight with zero MS-created/established first-party brand franchise at all that can even be remotely compared to any of Nintendo's legacy franchises, so they know for a fact they can't actually compete.


MS's reason for being in the industry has and always will be for profit by the order of damaging the ability of the industry on the whole to operate effectively by way of disrupting the system of checks and balances that are keeping the industry stable. If this statement is even the slightest bit wrong, then the only question you need to ask yourself is this:

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE MS-EXCLUSIVE FIRST-PARTY DEVELOPED FRANCHISES?

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>>379503615
As a current AAA game developer and former game addict, this. Playing a game for more than an hour or so a day (even that might be too much) is spiritually harmful.

But, you might say, well - isn't television harmful? Isn't spending too much time doing anything harmful? Of course. But games are literally built around cheap kinetic rewards for the player to get them to continue playing. Think high scores, victory music, leveling up in RPGs, etc.

Nobody wants to talk about it because of 1) cognitive dissonance 2) games are extremely profitable and 3) people don't like to be told that something they are doing is "spiritually harmful." It's not PC to tell somebody not to do something this day and age.

once my student loans are paid off im getting the fuck out of this harmful industry and never looking back

>>379506007
A million fucking times this. Once you start taking the shitposting seriously, rather than a joke, it really ruins videogames. It's funny, I just realized this the other day and have been enjoying vidya a lot more.

>>379515418
Arteezy
Sumail
Fear before he reformed
Cancel
No[o]ne
Mason
Benjaz
Kingteka

All these people intentionally ruin games by walking down mid lane in dota yet are all on successful pro teams