Is it just me or does this game feel way more casual and just

I miss Bridges of Druzina, the Campaign mode MP (or whatever it was called in RO2, where you captured/defended maps one after another) and could use a few more maps.

Other than that it's pretty good, some weapons need a bit rebalancing, some need their recoils increased others decreased, etc. It's a solid 8/10 game imo.

>>379427683
I just think it feels less heavy in general, and that's really what I liked about the older games. I really wanna like it, since I love Vietnam games.

Maybe I'll just go full time transport pilot, is there actually any use for a transport helicopter?

>>379427908
idk I only play rice farmers

>>379427908
Dropping off squads behind enemy lines to cap points. A successful sneak cap on Alpha is a thing of beauty.

The relatively small maps and limited number of LZs can make Hueys a death trap if the enemy team is smart though.

>>379427424
>>way simpler level design (for example bushes forming walls like you see in CoD games that tell you where the map ends. In RO you only had these on the edges of the map
are you nuts? I think only Hue City is like that, but's it like walls and barricades. An Lao and Song Be don't have edges at all.

>>379428372
>An Lao and Song Be don't have edges at all.
I think he meant bushes form walls as in creating artificial hallways CoD style, whereas in the previous games all foliage could be passed through apart from map's edges.

it's the 1970's bolt rifles were so 30 years ago you fucking retard,

>>379428372
What I meant is that in the middle of the maps, especially ones that contain jungle, instead of it being open terrain with trees and rocks for cover, with bushes to hide in, they make artificial walls out of bushes. Like that one map with jungle on the sides and rice fields on the middle. One side of the ricefields is almost completely covered by artificial foliage walls with small passages inbetween

>>379428803
I know that, but it doesn't change the fact that it dramatically changes the gameplay into a more battlefield like, casual direction.

>>379427424
Eh, while RO2 and RS certainly felt clunky-wonky at times, especially when getting into it for the first time, RS2 just feels like a cheap plastic cartoon.

The others just felt more rewarding, and the weapons felt better.

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>>379428939
do you even read the shit you put out? christ, you are trash.

>>379428939
shut the fuck up, idiot.

>>379429092
>>379429271
You seem very upset. Are you unironically saying that giving everyone assault rifles doesn't make the game more like a battlefield game?

>>379428983
Yes, plastic, that's exactly what I was thinking

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>>379429350
listen to yourself

WAHH WAHH B-BATTLEFIELD

not to mention you linked two different people.

Top quality bait OP

>>379427424
This whole game feels like it needs another year in develpoment. 5 fucking maps, are you kidding me?

>>379429484
Came into this thread to call you a dumb cunt. I agree with wallbush guy, it used to be that you could sneak around and pop fools using foliage as cover, now you've gotta go down the lanes the mapmakers have so graciously put in.

You're either twelve or a marketer.

>All these retards who don't know you can still walk through bushes

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>>379430227
>>379430353

>>379427424
>>Awkward level design where you find tons of places where your character just doesn't fit right. Like spots where standing leaves you way too exposed but crouching hides you too much
At least you got one thing right in your post. That shit is annoying. Prone seems to fit into that as well. You get stuck on everything imaginable and at certain points it bugs out and your character will stand straight up with no input from you.

>>379430810
I also agree with his vault point. Having to vault over a single step in certain areas is retarded.

>>379430439
This is a new reaction image, thanks. Not the best but joyful asian men is always a good base for reaction images.

How are the maps? What I loved about RO2 was slowly fighting room to room through a huge industrial complex like ColdSteel or Station. Had 0 interest in Rising Storm and its jungles.

>>379431219
Theres a bunch of different city maps

I agree point by point with everything actually, the feeling RO2 had to it wasn't matched by this game.
Also:
>5 maps

I sort of find myself agreeing with a lot of the naysayers, despite being pleasantly surprised in the beta.

I wish Rising storm 2 was better than it was, it runs like RO2/RS2 should've, without nearly the amount of bullshit texture and graphics issues that RO2/RS1 had.

What was really missing from RS2 was terrain destruction, (other games with a similar audience are also is guilty of this) which just makes the game feel dated.

>>379431418
Isn't there just one (hue) with the exception of the beginning of cu chi? I love cu chi and hue and I want more buildings in general. I loved peaking out of windows and looking for enemies. I remember a valid tactic from RO2 was to stand a few meters back from the windows so people wouldn't see you as easily. I've yet to even find a proper window in RS2 where I could do something like that. This game desperately needs more maps. It's still a ton of fun, but in general I thought RO2/RS1 was a better experience. This might grow into something similar though.

>>379433401
There's Hue and Compound at least

>>379428939
So you think that any modern day realistic shooter/milsim would automatically be "casual" because people have assault rifles? Christ.

Game has a bunch of problems. RO2 is a much better game. One major example is the map design, and I'm talking about Territories only here because I don't play the stupid Battlefield conquest gamemode. In RO2 the maps were designed so that there were long stretches of no man's land between objectives while the objectives themselves were CQB chokepoints. In RS2 the maps are nothing but chokepoints. The dynamic between machine gunners covering riflemen covering sub-machine gunners that was so good in RO2 is gone in RS2. The maps are too small for MGs to provide effective fire support for riflemen like in RO2, and the question of if you want a rifle or an SMG is a matter of preference.

Then you have other things like the retarded new squad system where you have a bunch of squad leaders who don't even get smokes by default, and the gook squad leaders being nowhere near as important as US squad leaders because once they place a spawn beacon they don't have to stay alive anymore. Meaning the US team is constantly down 6 or so players because they have to stay alive at all costs while the gook SLs don't.

I could write an essay on all the things wrong with RS2 compared to RO2 but I'm not going to. The map design and spawn system are the biggest problems I see with the game, aside from the nonexistent hit detection and severe lack of maps.

>>379430353
>walking through bushes
>when you could be running through the jungle

>>379433549
Compound is not a map. It is a firing squad simulator.

>>379427908
Heli taxi is fun until an enemy RPG makes it his life goal to fuck you up for the entire match.

Circle around, wait for full huey, land by going low, fast and turning sharp left or right to brake and quickly touch down and take off. Repeat as long as you can.

Worked for me many rounds. But if one or more RPG's aim for you then you have to land far away,

Like this guy says >>379428359 dropping squads near A is great. But a smart RPG will wait by A.

>>379433549
Yeah, Compound sure, I've only got to play it once in my 16 hours, and that time it just felt like TDM in BF4.
I just want more territories mode map that play like Station and Barracks, or even Apartments. I don't like supremacy so there's only really Cu Chi and Hue for me. Cu Chi is great though, reminds me a bit of Winterwald or Spartanovka.

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>>379433828
Mfw I joined a 64 player Compound server

>>379433715
This so much. I still love it, but it's really lacking compared to RO2/RS.

>>379427424
get good

>>379433715
Hope they release workshop quickly. I'm sure the community could be creative with custom maps. Many custom maps in RO2 were great.

I've never played the other games, but if this clunky piece of shit is on the casual/arcadey side, I'm sure they're fucking garbage

Why are people hating on the battlefield game mode? It's the best part of the game the territories are trash maps for trash, try hard players who larp. How the fuck are you supposed to do asymmetrical warfare on a territories map you dumb FAGGOTS.

>>379434310
Because I want to play Red Orchestra in Vietnam not Battlefield Hardcore Mode.

Supremacy fits the vietnam war.
Territories is more a WW2 thing.

>>379434521
Many battles in Vietnam were like Territories though where the Vietnam fucking shits held a defensive position like Hill 937 and the US had to capture it.

>>379434807
Fuckj you

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>>379427683
>brrrrrreeeeeeeddddddgeeees
>brrrrrreeeeeeeddddddgeeees

Best map, along with Myshkova River. I love ruining shit as Anti Tank.

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>>379435259
They should have looked at why Bridges was so popular for RO2 and designed the maps to be like that in RS2

>>379435417
Why is it so popular?

>>379436295
Size, pretty well balanced, lots of class choices, high reinforcement count. A good game could last the full hour.

>>379436295
1. it's huge with a shit load of objectives, a Bridges match feels like a real battle as you slowly push the enemy back over the course of 40 minutes or so
2. first half of the map is open forest fighting, second half is city streets
3. all classes are viable at some point on the map because of the above so it's pretty well balanced

Are there different weapon scopes I can unlock for the AK?

>>379437015
nope

>>379436841
It would probably not work at all in RS2 though because now everyone has a automatic gun and with no tank the attackign side is gonna have a hard time capping the first objectives >>379435417

>>379435417
It's an entirely different dynamic in RS2 though. I enjoyed RO2/RS a lot more but I don't think using the same kinds of maps would solve anything.

>>379435259
Univermag was the superior map.

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I had 3 friends say during open beta that they didnt like the game because they wanted scopes on their guns even though when they played sniper they didnt kill shit anyway. They werent even COD players they were CS players.

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I feel like the muzzle velocity on the AKs is absolutely fucked. I was dicking around at the end of a match yesterday and between firing a single shot at the cabinet not 3 metres in front of me and the impact nearly a full second passed.
Surely they aren't this terrible in real life.

>>379436295
Because it was maximum comfy for fat and lazy Wehraboos.

>>379427424
>Steel Bullets can't melt Glass Windows

Fucking shit pissed me off in the beta along with

>Gun aims over window, invisible walls itself to where you can't fire at the fucker in front of you.

Never bought it. Shit game.

>>379438294
Happens with all guns and in RO2 as well, bullets seem to be server side in the engine and the higher your ping the the longer it takes to register the impact. It's worsened by packet loss. Trying to lead targets with 200 ping is a nightmare, the physics are completely different.

>>379439032
The problem in RO2 and even with most of the weapons in RS2 never seems that bad though. I mean I have 900 hours in RO2 so I'm very used to its mechanics but everytime I use an AK in RS2 I am just baffled at how ridiculously slow its bullets will travel and that even at sub 50m ranges I have to lead as if I was using any other weapon at 200m+.

>>379439201
Let's not forget the hit detection in RS2 is completely fucked especially on the AKs. The AKs by far have the worst hitreg in the game. Actually I'm not sure if it's hitreg or the damage is too low but something about the AKs in RS2 is completely broken. I stopped playing the Vietnamese grunts entirely because of this, your only other options are the SKS which has similarly fucked damage/hitreg and the Mosin which seems to have okay hitreg but terrible damage, often taking 2 shots to kill someone.

>>379439472
I'll tell you what's "broken" about the AKs in this game: the Americans are all wearing backpacks and thus look like much bigger targets than they actually are. Causing you to believe you are shooting them in a vital spot but you are just shooting the pack. Happens to me all the time

>>379427908

Yes because people can spawn into a transport helicoper. However they cant jump out the chopper if you going to fast or to high. Don't land to close to enemies. A single shooter can fuck up your roters and you will crash down like a noob. other then that be carefull of SAM and rpgs. A good pilot can help your team a lot

>>379427424
>Is it just me or does this game feel way more casual and just worse in general?

It's not just you anon.

I played the closed beta, preordered it and still havn't bothered to launch it since the 30th

the game has literally 0 minutes of playtime on my account

No patch in 5 days = refund

>>379439757
I've seen many other people mention how broken the AKs are and I know myself I've shot people dozens of times and either nothing happens or I see a puff of blood and nothing happens.

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It's honestly shit, I got bored in 2 hours and went back to Based Squad

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>>379438643
on that note id really like it for a game to have realistic holds.

pic related in a game would really spice up cqm i think

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>>379440121

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>>379441123

PURCHASEEE

>>379439996
There was a small patch that fixed the Spooky sounds. 1.01 patch is coming sometime this month.

>>379427424
>No more bolt rifles on most of the players
>LMG ironsight fire while moving with decent accuracy

Gee fucking whizz it's almost like it's not WW2 anymore.

>>379427424
>Smokes have gone from tactical resources to just another grenade you make sure you spam before you die

This was always the case even in RO2

>>379437892
CS players are the new COD players.
>sniperpro98 | casescamroulette.info.tk
>3 kills, 8 points

>>379440858
Sight alignment is in the game already though along with bullet drop, it's just hard to notice due to the distances you usually fight in.

>>379433883
>land by going low, fast and turning sharp left or right to brake and quickly touch down and take off
>tfw I always fuck this up and end up barrelling the copter into a bunch of trees

>>379436295
>>379435417
>>379436841

It's popular because it looks like the original RO maps instead of the shitty ro2 ones

although hill 937 and cu chi look like good RO maps too

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>place mines at entrances and exits of cong tunnels as a gook
>place a couple more inside the tunnels

>+5 kill
>+5 kill
>+5 kill

Every time

>>379444195
>running through tunnels as gook to get from point to point safe not expecting anyone
>run into that one GI who promoted himself to king of tunnel rats
>get killed because aiming from a run takes forever

>>379436295
>>379436841
I always disliked bridges. It felt bland for some reason. Everywhere you looked was a dull grey/whitish green color, it felt like there was no visual variety.

There was one map I really loved but I don't remember the name because barely any servers had it in its rotation. It started out in a swampy area, pushed into a lumberyard followed by a bridge and the last cap was a burned out village. It was a very beautiful map with lots of detail, I loved how varied the objectives were but fuck me I only got to play it maybe twice.

>>379444479
its your fault for running, Im usually the smug fuck that fastwalks everywhere and pops any sprinting fool who tries to draw on me.

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>>379444479
we need an underground tunnel map that takes place entirely underground in the tunnels

Holy fucking shit FUCK compound and firebase. Id rather play HUEHUEHUE City than either of those heaps of trash.

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>>379444838
>tfw 64 player Compound

>>379444821
>that slope snatching the gi
>those pitfalls into 10ft of water
>that fuckin tank
nightmares

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>>379444978
>playing 64 player compound
>as gooks
>and win
the only chance the vc have is if a gi fucks up and kills half his team with a grenade

>tfw no spic servers
RO2 and 1 also dont have spic servers, what do I do if I have high ping? just leave?

>Unreal Engine 3
>2017

Unacceptable.

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>>379445646

game looks great m8

Is there anywhere that shows where all the tunnels are on a map? As vietcong, I know I should stick to the tunnels, but I have no idea where most of them are except for the one that goes from D to E in Cu Chi

>>379428939
How is it like Battlefield? I own both and Battlefield is an alt-history paintball sandbox whereas RS2, for all its jankiness and faults, at least feels like it takes places in the same fucking reality as ours.

>>379434521
I like both modes but I agree. The games biggest detractors seem to be RO2 autists who don't want to learn a new game and the casual kiddies who, again, just don't want to learn a new game.

>>379444821
This is the most fascinating part for me. Are there are any pictures of these things taken during the war?

>>379443315
shit u right u right. badass

>>379444821
Yeah unfortunately the RS2 tunnels don't give the actual vietcong tunnels justice.

RS2 tunnels are literally just small hallways with 1 or 2 branches like 5 feet below the ground. I get that it would be hard as fuck to implement in an already dated engine but god damn can you imagine a fully functioning tunnel system like this pic?

>>379427424
yes and RO2/RS are more casual and just worse in general from the original RO and DH

>>379446129

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ejFuEyHyk

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>squad tunnels have the hatches open

so should I play Ostfront first? if yes, is that mod called Darkest Hour good? what does it do to the game? add more weapons and maps?

I see too many people taking potshots at hueys instead of waiting for them to land.
The DSHK is more fun for AA.

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>AK series and SKS
>Power: 4

>M16
>Power: 6

>>379450215
US a best. Flamethrower a best. spray in random buildings for free kills a best

>>379436295
Huge, and eventhough the first 2 cap waves as attackers felt like a slaughteringhouse, it was just balanced enough with their tanks and just barely enough cover, that eventually they found a way to push through. And even if the rest of the map wasn't exactly ezmode either, you got this feeling of "Alright boys, the worst is behind us, now go and get em!"

>>379439848
I heard that if you get targetted by SAM, your only way to survive is to fly low enough and hope that the missile hits something else?

>>379442562
Gee fucking whizz it's almost like it's not a RO game anymore, but more like Battlefield or something.
>>379442609
Not where I played. Of course there are some maps where they don't matter, but most of the if you didn't time your smokes correctly and didn't throw them in the right spots, you were not getting through

>>379445827
It's basically just run&gun and spray&pray now. Like if you compare this game and the newer Battlefield games without knowing about RO, you'd mistake it for Battlefield: Vietnam

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>>379427424
>>379452235
MUH bolt ACSHUN what about Rising Storm VIETNAM don't you understand?
Holy fucking hell in a godammned handbasket you stupid fucking imbecile.
Both these cunts gotta be squad niggers. Go circlejerk in your own thread you depopulated cavernous vaginas.

>>379450215
I expected a slow burn game. I expected two lines of enemies pushing at eachother through a slaughterhouse. I don't care if it's not historically accurate, that's what the RO games are. Also holy fuck this game feels plastic

>>379452768
>haha you fucking nerds go back to your game
It's sad, I never would have imagined that RS2 would be such a casual game that it divided the playerbase

>>379427424
the weapons in Rising Storm 1 felt weightless as well, mostly because of the sound and animations

>>379452978
Are you unironically saying that original RO fans liked the game because of how realistic it was, instead of the style of gameplay it offered?

I mean if the devs want to try different types of gameplay styles, they're free to do what they want, but Battlefield has already occupied this space

>>379453136
the realism is the gameplay it offered, as opposed to shit like Cawadooty, and that's what people want now

>>379452972
56 people in this thread. Can't say i'm certain /v/ makes up a substantial part of the RS2 player base.

>>379440858
Arma

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>can't filter out regions or pings in the server browser
>have to use the steam one because otherwise it's refreshing a list of 260 each time

>>379453136

Please anon, not even battlefield does supremacy alright nowadays

>mfw metro

>>379428939
hardly my dude, yeah you can't sprint out across an open field as easily anymore but so what that's war now