ARE YOU FRIENDOS READY? http://steamcommunity.com/games/367

hell yes. im so looking forward to this!

>free
Sounds good but I doubt I'll be replaying the game any time soon

>>379414615
I'm not your friendo, guybrush

The update might have something to do with the Dung Defender and Zote...

>>379414615
I'd say this should already be in the game, but this game already has a fuckton of content so I won't complain.

>>379415589
Dung Defender had a hard life.

>>379415589
>dream world zote

>HARDEST BOSS IN THE GAME

you can count on it.

>>379415710
>Post content patches
>After 4 months
>Should be in the game

srsly bro?

>bought this game and beat the first two areas in march
>got derailed with Automata and BotW
>thinking about restarting
>this happens

G-Guess I'm waiting until July.

>>379415812
There was a kickstarter for Hollow Knight, and some of the stretch goals they reached were supposed to make it into the release version of the game. I guess they just got too busy with everything else they worked on.

I literally just got the true end 30 minutes ago and this comes up. Neato.

>>379415963
Yeah you aren't too far in. The game lasts around ~30 hours if you're exploring without a guide. Don't use a guide by the way, just play the game. There's a lot of moments that'll be spoiled.

>>379416018
Not really, all the reached stretch goals are in the base game. If anything, I'm guessing these are the stretch goals that weren't met.

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>>379414615
>2 New Bosses - Leap into battle with the mightiest foes! These epic new duels will test even the most skilled of players. Each fight grants rewards to the victor, though note: Engaging with each imposing boss is entirely optional!

>Mfw my constant shitposting against the shills in Hollow Knight / Metroidvania threads may have actually made them make an actual good decision.

I swear if these bosses are pushovers I'm gonna be mad.

>>379415963
there'll be 2 more free content patches, this year so if you keep delaying it you'll end up playing it next year.

>>379416018
Actually, the only stretch goal they reached and haven't released is the Hornet campaign. Things like the white palace , the abyss and coliseum of fools were stretch goals that weren't reached, but where implemented in a smaller way.

When do I get to play as the slutty hornet? Is that this year?

>>379416250
Actually, the Abyss and the Colliseum were supposed to have major story affecting bosses.

Colliseum still has a boss (God Tamer) but it doesn't affect the plot in any way.

White Palace wasn't mentioned as a stretch goal iirc.

>>379416372
After the third content patch, which is scheduled for Q3 2017.

>>379416250
They also promised 2 bosses along with the White Palace goal that still don't exist.

>>379416242
Will you stop being a huge faggot now then since they gave you what you want?

>>379416372
all we know about it is :

>Playable Hornet is happening! And wow is she cool. We’re so excited for this, and for the very special form it’s taking. Ari’s just finished up on Hornet’s additional animations, but there are still many things left before she’s ready for her big reveal. Hornet’s the biggest update we have planned for Hollow Knight’s future, and you’ll be hearing lots more about it as we go. For now, here’s a tiny tease:

sounds gud, hopefully there is some nice bug butt in the new area

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>no hornet campaign

Flop

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>>379416541
Depends, I doubt just 2 bosses will fix all of the other issues but if I get enough optional content that is actually difficulty I'll bump it up a notch.

We'll see.
No matter what though it's not going to surpass Marrow.

>>379415963
Just play it

2 new bosses isn't reason to delay

>>379416924
>Terraria
>Metroidvania
lul wut. I love Terraria a whole bunch, but it ain't a metroidvania.

>>379416924
>terraria
>metroidvania

seriously

Also La Mulana sucks

>>379417216
>la mulana sucks

t. casual

>>379416924
This is supreme bait. Half of those games arent even Metroidvanias.

>>379416924
>this bait edit

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>>379417170
>>379417216
It's a metroidvania in the guise of a sandbox game.

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>>379416924
>Terraria on there
>Axiom on the same level as momodora
>Hollow knight not equal to axiom
>Environment station alpha that high maybe its just my hate of those ugly chunky pixels
>Rabi-ribi that low
>Odallus on there
>Dust on there
>Cavestory on there
>Unepic on there
What the FUCK is this list?

>>379417504
Obvious troll is obvious troll. Terraria ain't a metroidvania you dumb fuck.

i don't wanna torture myself further. i am a casual, hollow knight showed me that. my fingers fucking hurted 3 days after beating game.

>>379417649
dont worry. hollow knight is hard to start with, once you get in the swing of the combat, it'll work out fine!

>>379414615
Looking forward to it. Game already felt pretty complete, adding more bosses will just make it even better.

Not sure what they mean by the stag station though. Does it exist in an already existing area or is it like that other station that can only be accessed via the stag? Does it lead to a brand new area? Maybe that's where the bosses and the upgrade are located. In any case I can't wait.

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>>379417513
Axiom is straight up the only good metroid style of game.

>>379417592
It is though.

>>379417885
Provide some arguments. Specifically, arguments that make it a metroidvania. We can all claim shit, but without proof it is useless.

>>379417770
tell that to broken vessel, watcher knights and soul master

>no linux version no buy microsoft is doing gross things lately

>>379418041
>broken vessel
>soul master

Oh boy I hope you look forward to fighting Lost Kin and Soul Tyrant.

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>>379417770
>it'll work out fine!
>Trial of Fools

>>379418041
>Broken Vessel
Git gud. He's no harder than hornet!greenpath. Your biggest enemy is the FPS.

>Watcher Knights
Don't get overwhelmed, try to take one out at a time.

>Soul Master
Just move quickly, his attacks are slow and easy to dodge. Don't panic.

>>379418165
Trial of Fools is only for Geo, not for any relevant things.

>>379417885
I suppose im retarded and phrased that poorly, axiom is 10/10, momodora is only alright

Reminder that Hollow Knight, a 2D indie platformer, has a larger filesize than Dark Souls.

>>379418041
I'll give you Watcher Knights but those other two really weren't that bad.
>>379418165
>have to go through over 5 minutes of tedious bullshit to get to the only hard part every time
Made me rage a lot.

>>379414615
Blah, and I was just thinking of starting this. I guess now I have to wait till the dlc is out.

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>>379418005
The progression system is literally a 1 - 1 replicate of your average metroidvania.

>>379418258
Wew lad, you're like the only other person on /v/ that I've seen not talking shit about Axiom Verge.

>>379418115
>he fell for the linux meme

lol

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>>379418317
>take stupid damage during the first half
>the tripleshot flying fucks
>make it to the final boss after 40 tries and die

Christ, I thought I was good at video games.

>>379418461
>he fell for the letting microsoft spy on him meme

>>379418414
Progression system ain't a 1-1 replicate. Terraria focuses on crafting and enemy drops to get stronger. A metroidvania focuses on objects spread throughout the environment. Hence, it's not a metroidvania.

>>379418138
>>379418254
>>379418317

i finished the game. soul master was okayish but broken vessel and watcher knights are the most random bullshit i've ever seen.

>>379418591
Will this ever be for ps4?

It's not like I can't play it on pc, but I want to buy it instead of pirating it and I prefer to do it where I have the majority of my games already.

>>379418317
Yeah. I think that may be the most poorly designed part of Hollow Knight. There are far too many filler waves and I'm pretty sure there are even a few that are repeated. Fucking ridiculous. I didn't care enough about it to finish it and this is honestly one of my favorite games. I will never get 100% completion.

I love that they are actually expanding the game. More optional for traversing the game world sounds awesome already.

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>mfw I'm surrounded by redditors that actually had trouble with this piss easy game.
Disgusting.

>>379418591
Chests are spread throughout the environment.

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good god I love this game, excited for the hornet campaign too!

cant wait to fuck up the new bosses

>>379418041
>All the dream bosses were EZ for me
>Failed champion turns my asshole inside out
I might have brain damage

>>379418847
>Chests
They are one time pre-generated objects with a small pool that won't last you for about 75% of the game. Everything else is based on ore or enemy drops. Bad argument.

>>379418591
You're forgetting the -vainia part of that. Which is why the term metroidvania is retarded. Metroid and Castlevania are actually very different games that have entirely different and conflicting ways of rewarding the player, which is a huge part of a game's identity. Not going to deny the inspiration. I'm not even going to deny the similarities but they are very surface-level in nature. It makes really liking games like super metroid and really disliking games like SOTN very difficult.

>>379416893
They're releasing it after the updates you retarded faggot weeb

>>379419216
That doesn't make Terraria a metroidvania though. It doesn't have the metroid elements in it.

>Dream versions of bosses are how they view themselves
>Fighting Zote's dream self

Oh fug

>>379419385
Vs. Zote's ego. It's a Radiance 2.0 fight!

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>>379419025
But that's quite simply wrong though.
Valdis Story has you grinding monsters for materials to upgrade your gear.
SoTN has you grinding monsters to get the best equipment in the game
Same with S&S.

There's literally no difference.

>>379419620
Terraria is a fucking sandbox. Not a metroidvania.

>>379419375
No, absolutely. I was just pointing out that the argument of
>It's not a metroidvania because the progression system relies on enemy drops
doesn't work when half of the genre name relies on the player killing things to get enemy drops.

I wish this would hurry up and come to Switch. I'm tempted to get it on PC but I want to play it on the toilet.

I'm just wandering about right now, not sure where to go. I got that superdash and all the different charge skills. Should I just start on the Watchers? Also why is Zote such a cunt?

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>>379419827
No, it's a metroidvania posing as a sandbox.

>>379419908
just open up paheal. it will have the same effect.

>>379419939
Just start the dreamers.

>free content pack

Wow, that's pretty nice. And the game wasn't lacking content before. I have to say this is pretty cool.

>>379420021
Shit I meant Dreamers, my b.

Is there one you would recommend I start with?

>>379414615
At least make the shilling subtle

>>379419981
but can you build stuff and alter terrain permanently in a metroidvania?

>>379420114
> And the game wasn't lacking content before.
It was. The game is barebone as fuck.
Any metroidvania that doesn't have an endgame optional hard as fuck area needs to fuck off.

>>379420184
>shilling for free content

I do it for free, I love this video game.

>>379420171
Herrah is probably easiest, since there is no boss and there is a Stag Station nearby.

Maybe Monomon, but that depends on how hard you find fog canyon.

I'd save Lurien for last, the Watcher Knights can be pretty though.

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>>379420272
>White palace

>>379416682
>>379420281
You can find the porn pretty easily don't know why you're posting it here instead of reviving the /trash/ insect thread.

>>379420272
>>Any metroidvania that doesn't have an endgame optional hard as fuck area needs to fuck off.
>what is literally all the shit you have to do to get 100%

>>379419620
Its a smug-anime-poster-adopts-an-unpopular-
standpoint episode.

>>379420114
They're meeting their kickstarter rewards. Let's not turn this into
>SHOVEL KNIGHT IS GETTING FREE CONTENT PACKS
people have already paid for them through reaching those stretch goals. They deserve praise for sure but getting praise for putting out free shit is different to getting praise for actually sticking to your promises. Especially when crowdfunding is as shitty and untrustworthy.

>>379420171
Just make sure you get the map for the Deepnest before going through it or else you're probably going to get lost like I did.

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>>379420253
You got me on that one. Still a metroidvania though.

>>379420438
>White palace
>Hard
l m a o

>>379420495
>what is literally all the shit you have to do to get 100%
More piss easy busywork?

This is what I mean by you faggots being casual as fuck, holy shit you'd have to be underage to find anything in HK even remotely difficult.
Have you never played a hard game in your life?

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>>379420684
WHOA BRO YOU'RE SO HARDCORE LET ME SUCK YOU OFF

>>379420578
They are not. These arent kickstarter rewards. The only thing thats not in the base game is Hornet's campaign.

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>>379420754
>Be an absolute shitter
>Get called out
>Sperg out about it

~Pottery~

Why aren't you as good at video games as I am?

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>>379420684
>Says metroidvanias without option hard areas are gutter trash
>Defends terraria

>>379420754
He didn't actually play the game you fucking idiot, which is why he can mention no specifics what so ever. Why do you bother arguing with retards?

>>379418272
it's because of top notch drawn 2D visuals

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>>379420943
Nigga you are full fucking retard.
Let's play some Terraria multiplayer, hardcore characters, elite difficulty. Let's see how quickly you die. I'll even stream that shit too, since I'm so generous.

If you're not playing Terraria with a hardcore character you're doing it wrong.

>>379421280
>Terraria
>hardcore character

You know that isn't how it's supposed to be played right?

>>379418631
>watcher knights
>random
Don't fight them till you get both one one side
they become extremely predictable and manageable if they are both on one side of you

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>>379421280
>He legitimatly thinks terraria is hard

>>379420943
>what is expert mode

>>379421280
What does that have to do with optional hard areas?

>>379420272
What optional hard as fuck area did metroid 1, 2, super metroid, metroid fusion have?

I love this game but we can never fucking talk about it because you tards are the most easily baited people on /v/. Fuck all of you.

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>>379421459
It is, it's the only way to play when you're not sitting around building shit.

Terraria is not just a metroidvania, it's also a roguelike.

>>379421538
>Shitter completely evades the request to play with a hardcore character
>"I-i-it's not hard"

Tip
top
kek

Terraria will crucify you when you don't play on baby mode my casual friend.

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GOTY 2017

99999999999hrs for just 15$

kek, AAA trash BTFO

>>379421919
yeah definetly a troll. terraria is anything but a roguelike.

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So...LaMulana Autist general?

Because dumb faggot cant get over his analpain that HK puts all other metroidvanias to shame

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>>379421919
>Terraria is not just a metroidvania, it's also a roguelike.

goddamn it anon stop baiting

>>379421919
>Terraria will crucify you
The only thing i can think of that is vaguely threatening is the underground traps, and those are nullifoed by carrying a pressure plate

kek its even the same anime reaction pics
how do you retards keep falling for it?

>see suffering chart being meme'd across the site
>Hollow knight is on it
>"Huh, wonder what that's about"
>Have the game, decide to give it a go
>Huh, this is pretty great, wonder what they were on about
>Get a bit further
O-oh...

>>379422313
Its sad to see a thread like this fall to obvious bait, but what did you expect, really?

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>>379418737
Colisseum of Fools is actually the most rewarding part of Hollow Knight combat-wise.

It forces you to git gud at avoiding shit, to better manage your health meter and to prioritize your targets instead of "spam nail to win"

If only it didn't bug out half the time when I played

>>379422475
Colisseum is good, except for the spike parts. That is just badly limiting movement.

>>379422464
it's in every thread now, it's sad that people don't ignore him.

>>379422475
I wish there were more rungs to it
Round 3 was harsh but the final boss of it was underwhelming

I want to fight a truly heinous nigga

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>>379422043
>>379422123

Listen mates, do you know who I am? Not only am I the king of platformers, shmups, metroidvanias and ARPG's, I'm also the king of roguelikes.
I bet you've never even ascended in DCSS.

>>379422262
So hol' up
You've never even played with a HC character?
Go give it a try. Report back when you've died. It's very easy to fuck up in Terraria, you're probably not aware of how many deaths you've actually had in a playthrough because you just fucking respawn and carry on like nothing happened in the other modes.

>>379422656
horheristo pls go

>>379422475
It would be if there weren't easy filler waves. The filler waves work with the health system to essentially provide infinite health on said waves and a stockpile to go into the next ones. They also prolong everything needlessly. When you get onto the later parts of the last one (Fools?) it takes fucking forever to get back to the actually engaging and challenging bit and that really sucks.

>>379422885
Or you can get good and not need to slow down on the "you shoudl heal now" waves

>>379422475
They were the perfect length. There are so many games that make gladiator matches short and tedious, hollow knight knows whats up.

>>379422964
Oh believe me I did. They still took too long and were far too many in number.

How do I get the elevator to stop at the colosseum? Can I?

>>379416924
>Ori that low
>CS that low
For what purpose?

>>379423250
Wall climb up from the bottom

>>379423250
No, have to walljump

>>379422885
I kind of liked mastering the early waves to not take a single point of damage, although I agree that spending like 7 minutes to get back to the challenging part is a hassle. That being said it removes a lot of the tension if it gave you checkpoints.

>>379423250
I don't think so.

I can't seem to get into Salt and Sanctuary. Every enemy has felt more annoying than challenging. Rolling doesn't work half the time and only safe if you roll away from a combo.

A metroidvania with no map is also a turn-off. I can't remember how to get back to a shop to spend the money I keep losing

>>379423345
It's bait you stupid fuck

>It's a Zote the Mighty episode

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>TFW Zote cucks you off your fan girl

I was expecting to be rewarded for saving him so many goddamn times, or that he'd change his tune. Instead he delusionally believes he's hot shit after getting fucked in the ass all this time and still manages to make the girl fall for him just from talking about his exploits.
I guess he will eventually show off and get killed by a spider or some shit and she'll fall for the next chad that comes along anyways.

Hopefully the two new bosses really are a challenge. There were only like two in the main game that actually gave me trouble.

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>>379423913
but she is fat

>>379423913
She thinks he's you, anon. you both look similar, and if your read her diary, she thinks zote is the one who saved her.

>>379424031
the elder grub is the fattest >:)

>dude makes pretty damn good metro I'd vania
>proceeds to release promoting looking dlc for his game

Dev is a fucking bro. We need more like him

>>379424076
Does she? She very clearly had plushies of your character which vanish after that, or talked about how he was the silent type and such, and Zote's skull is fairly different.

I think she just got charmed by him.

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>>379424031
>mfw seeing a grub mimic for the first time
Legitimately scared me the first time.

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Serious question, what's the last version of this tier list that's not edited beyond belief? They used to be voted on by /v/, slowly changing over time and adding stuff, but lately I've only seen versions of retards shuffling shit around for their own preference.

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>>379423345
>For what purpose?
They're right where they belong, as is everything else.

>>379423605
>Every enemy has felt more annoying than challenging.
God why is this the most common excuse casual use? You never hear them say "Well fuck, I just got my ass handed to me, guess I'm shit" it's always "This isn't difficult, it's just annoying". No nigga, it's annoying you because you can't do it properly.

>Rolling doesn't work half the time and only safe if you roll away from a combo.
Rolling works fine. Make a new save and go fight the first boss on the ship until you beat him. If you can't beat him then you haven't learned how to roll properly.
Knowing how to roll properly makes the game even easier than it already is.

>>379424076
No she doesn't. Zote presents you as an asshole and she believes him because she's a faddy fangirl.

>>379423375
>>379423395
>>379423443
Damn. Alright.

>>379424213
>>379424457
Ahh, alright, I clearly didn't have enough information to form my assumption, thank you anons

>>379424451
Not everybody is going to be as good as you. It's silly to even have that mindset. If something is too difficult for people it's natural to find it annoying, I don't see what the big deal is.

I'm getting the impression there is no reason to let Zote live if he's such a delusional fuckwit.

Incompetent people who don't know it and act like hot shit are the worst.

https://www.theindiebox.com/

anyone found all the grubs here?

>>379414615
The shadows look like Zote, and the other one Dung defender. I guess it will be some kind of dream fight?

>Zote's ideal version of himself is literally "nothin personnel" fighting style

I wonder if he'll look the same or if his idealized version will look like a super buff version of himself.

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>>379424818
yup

>>379417864
>Not sure what they mean by the stag station though. Does it exist in an already existing area or is it like that other station that can only be accessed via the stag?
My guess would be just a new stag station in an existing area, most likely ancient basin/east deepnest. As is the closest stag station is quite a ways, and it's a chore to reach that area.

>>379424940
What is the reward?
it is bugged for me, I got only 6 and wallpaper

>>379424984
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

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>>379424787
The big deal, you fucking retard is that I didn't say you couldn't find difficult things annoying. I said stop pretending that the thing you're having trouble with isn't hard. Rather than saying "abloobloo bloo it's not hard it's just annoying!" just admit that you're shit and couldn't handle it.

>>379424984
Well and truly pottery indeed.

Now go make me some more images like these, I love them. I had multiple from the vita threads, shmup threads, ys threads, danganronpa threads and platformer threads I've been in over the years. Having only one made here is dull as fuck, I demand at least 3.

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>>379424984
I hate that this faggot is making everyone hate a legitimately good vidya by being an autist.

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>>379424984
pls no

>>379414615
Oh shit, didn't know hollow knight was getting DLC
Considering how good the game was, this DLC is probably going to be great. I'm glad the dev kept the coliseum in the base game despite that milestone not being reached during funding

>>379425034
oh, i wasn't sure what you meant. i don't know

>>379424802
Zote isn't incompetent, he's travelling the same route as you, except with a wooden nail. Sure he gets captured but your character outright dies. And his principles show that he's a wise bug.

>>379425448
I think it's an update instead of DLC actually.

>>379425034
A great charm.

>>379424984
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

>>379425283
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

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>>379425317
>legitimately good
L m a o

It's literally dog shit though. I played Marrow a few months after it and it easily exceeds it in quality on all fronts. It's not even close.

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>>379425492
t.Zote

>If you dream nail him after he's showing off to the bug fan girl he is delusional enough to believe he has achieved glory and is in no way a weak shit
>Never once changes his tune and always shit talks you for helping him
>Most likely just sneaks around since his fake sword can't even damage anything until he gets caught and has to have someone save him

Also most of his principles are common sense, and some are layered deep with daddy and mommy issues.

just hurry up and release on ps4 damn it

>>379425731
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

>>379422475

You can still make an effective spam 2 win build tho

>>379414615
How about a new engine patch? Unity is fucking trash, s-s-s-shutters.

>>379425317
Hollowknight really isn't good though.

>>379425731
Is marrow your game?

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>>379426057
That's cool anon, but why is that? Surely you have some good points to talk about in order to say that right?

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>>379425849
Well and truly, pure refined pottery kino.


>>379426157
No, it's just the most hidden of all gems in steams sea of shit. It's easily one of the best metroidvania games of all time, right up there with La-Mulana.
Non of you shitters will be able to play it though, especially not if you find babymode shit like HK difficult at any point.

Marrow is nothing short of a masterpiece.
>mfw I'm sitting here listening to the music which is actually incredible unlike HK's forgetable as fuck OST

lmao tbqhwy

Somebody go beat that goddamn game to shut him the hell up so we can actually go back to having good threads

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>>379424405
There are no more that haven't been edited, I was the only one saving them.

>>379414615
God fucking damn it, I'm still waiting for the Switch version.

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>tfw learning if you don't kill the Nailsmith he becomes a sculptor with the other Nailmaster

>>379427139
>lamulana on top

nice try LMA

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>>379414615
>exact release date as we get close
Fuck man, you got my hopes up with this thread.

>>379427298
model, not sculptor.

>>379427404
It's confirmed for july, tough.

>>379427302
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

>>379427139
thank you, sad that those threads kind of died off, it was a good initiative

>>379427539
That's still a month away and I thought it was today seeing this thread.
Path of Exile's Beta event just started and the release for the full content of that isn't until July either.

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>HK fags can't even keep their own threads afloat
Has there ever existed a more pitifully weak and spineless fanbase? I mean I know most of you are technically undertale fans so that should be a given but still, this is just beyond pitiful.

I wonder if this new update will deliver another comic relief style boss to appeal to its underage fanbase, or if we'll actually get something that's not only actually difficult but also something that is intimidating as a boss should be.

>>379425492
>Zote isn't incompetent
The Colosseum fight proves otherwise.

>>379428414
Are you the same guy who was shitting up Bloodborne/Souls threads with Nioh stuff?

>>379428414
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

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So what's this dude's deal? Does he just have fun showing up in a thread and acting autistic while posting animu?

>>379428414
It must have been difficult not posting an anime avatar.

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>>379427298
>mfw learning about the Shrine of Believers

>>379428634
He is an attention whore

>>379428634
yep, he trolls EVERY metroidvania thread, is always lurking.

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>>379428414

>>379428414
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

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>>379428414
Nope

>>379428641
It is, every time I have to post something different I start violently shaking and have to do my breathing exercises.

>>379428634
he's some newfag from /jp/ called MaZe who shitposts any game he doesn't likes because he believes he's the most hardcore gaymer ever 'cause he's good at 2hu, he also only argues with strawmans
you can MD5 search in the archive any of his reaction images to see how many threads he's ruined

>>379429008
You fail to understand that this game have other target audience and yet you compare their elements that will be different because of that
Truly the autism of this board is strong in you

>>379427404
Just imagine a July 31st release

That's the worst it can be, right?

>>379428414
>tweened flash-tier animation vs quality 2D art and animation

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How do you go from this...

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>>379429210
pls no

>>379428634
I just hide his posts, improves the thread immensely because it clears up all the retards feeding him. In fact, I end up hiding any post that mentions him too. He's basically a tripfag who's too scared of being filtered.

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>>379429248
to this

>seriously replying to MaZe
just ignore him, he's only going to ruin the thread further

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>>379429248
To this?

>>379429417
Stop making posts like these, genius.

>>379414615
>free
holy fuck maybe i'll buy the game then

>>379424984
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

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>>379429634
Delete this

>>379429863
>>Been on this site for 12 years
prove it then, though it's plainly obvious by the way you type that you are so new you probably weren't here when moot was still posting
moot would have hated you anyways

>>379416924
>Terraira
>Metroidvania

I mean, sure in some ways, but I really wouldn't classify it as such. BUT, soon, the Metroid mod will return and hopefully people will be willing to make adventure maps using it. With the new logic gates and being able to spawn enemies with command blocks, this should be more then easy for the community. Seriously can't wait to have a Metroid themed playthrough again, those beams just feel awesome.

>>379420576
stop giving it yous

Is there any information about your character other than the fact that he's a failed vessel?

>>379431010
discarded, not failed

>>379424984
hahaha holy shit what a failure

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>>379414615
>Dream Gate - Discover a whole new method of traversing Hallownest! Slice through the Veil and travel in an instant from one corner of the kingdom to another.
Yes, please

>>379431010
He's quite handsome

>>379431010
He's not really failed, more like it gave up when it saw that the king had already chosen a vessel. The King also fucked up and started treating the vessel like a friend and called him a hero.

>>379431146
Should be very nice, I bet it goes from King Station to the Home of the Stags. Should improve run times dramatically.

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>>379431210
>handsome
wha

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Hollow Knight fans, if LMfag stopped posting, would you still respect La-mulana as one of the best metroidvania's?

Due to LMfags existence, it's no doubt that more people absolutely hate La-mulana, despite it initially being popular amongst metroidvania fans. Though, Hollow Knight introducing a lot of new fans, and LMfag coming out being autistic, it's no doubt that you all might think La-mulana is just a tryhard pretentious indie piece of shit.

But if it comes down to it, would I prefer Hollow Knight posters, or LMfag? The answer is determined solely on how La-mulana is perceived after the fact.

>>379431269
I thought it will just let you teleport anywhere you want, like area to area.

>>379431442
Not many people liked it to begin with.
Terrible gameplay and fake metroidvania.

Sometimes even niche genre have TOO niche examples.

>>379417513
Environmental Station Alpha is straight up better than Axiom Verge, and Momodora is straight up better than Hollow Knight. I really don't get the love for Hollow Knight. Too many QoL issues for how slow the game is. Neat presentation, but damn.

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>>379431294
Not the word I'd use for him(cute,) but I understand where he's coming from.

>>379427139
>>379424405
>Shantae 1 in shit tier

That game is at least great tier.

>>379431461
Maybe it will have a few places to go, but I expect it to be more like the tram. Say the portal connects two points, but there are multiple portals. So you can go from Greenpath to Fungal Wastes, or Dirtmouth to Kingdom's Edge.

>>379431636
>Environmental Station Alpha is straight up better than Axiom Verge
correct

>and Momodora is straight up better than Hollow Knight.
oh
opinion discarded, into the trash

Just FYI: from all the titles you've mentioned only ESA is actual metroidvania

>>379431442
>would you still respect La-mulana
yes, fuck shitposters

>>379431761
> only ESA and HK are actual metroidvania games
pardon, //fixed

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>>379428414
Are you some kind of counter troll that was so assblasted he couldn't beat La Mulana without a guide that now you're making everyone hate it by associating it with your faggotry?

>>379431761
hollow knight is garbage

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>>379431442
I like both La-mulana and Hollow Knight. They're completely different games that share strengths but execute those strengths completely differently, so both sides calling one or the other bad are shitposters.

>>379432031
Ok

>>379431442
I respect LM despite LM-fag, cause he's just using it as a scapegoat for attention. For me, La-Mulana represents a branching out from traditional Metroidvania as a more puzzle-like Metroidvania that is very well executed.

>>379432195
>puzzle-like Metroidvania
Full Bore is better then

>>379431761
Axiom Verge is a larger ripoff of Metroid than ESA or Hollow Knight.

Here's my beef with Hollow Knight: it's slow as fuck. It's so incredibly slow to get around or do anything. Basic QoL shit like the compass are tied to valuable badge slots. That doesn't make the game more difficult, it makes it more tedious. Bosses don't really give you direct rewards often so there's little incentive to sequence break. There's a boss you can get to before the dash that can't be beaten (minus godly RNG I guess) without the dash. Your reward for exploration and mastery of the game's physics? Nada.

Game has great presentation and interesting ideas, but it was a slog. I played Momodora directly afterwards (first time through on Hard mode) and found it handled itself far better despite having lots of similarities in systems.

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>>379432397
the thing about this post is that if youre lying, it means you're a pathetic loser
and if youre not lying, you'd still be a pathetic loser

>>379432397
wow, who gives a shit faggot
go talk about your e-peen elsewhere

>>379432397
the irony of posting job truniht alongside this post

>>379414615
And i didn't even beated the game yet... completely stuck in the Soul Master.

>>379418272
it's rendering in 3D though

So when this gets released that's when the switch version will also come out?

>>379432819
No. There is another free content update followed by the Hornet expansion.
Some time after that will be the Switch version.

>>379432819
switch is close to the end of the year

>>379414615
I should really play this game some time. Fuck my backlog

>>379432397
>I beat a super duper hard game, that gives me the rights to come to /v/ and be a massive fucking faggot

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>>379432487
Momodora is straight up superior so your train of thought is correct.
It has superior gameplay, aesthetics and music.

>>379432531
Ow damn sick burn!

>>379432626
>Being this assblasted that you literally got outskilled
lmao

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GOTY

>>379432941
You forgot:
>Without proof
>Inb4 "You've never beaten it so you wouldn't know what 100% Marrow looks like"

>>379431442
yes because unlike the shitposters I've played both to 100% and like them for the things they do completely different. Both at the top of my list.

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>>379432992
LMfag is only mad that HK is more popular than LM because LM has almost no porn when it needs it.

>>379432914
Its like 30+ hours if your looking to 100% it, worth the time investment

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>>379433009
Next?

The other achievement is a survival mode thing that unlocks after you've beat the game.

I found every item in the game and got the true ending. 100%.

>>379433272
As someone who loves La-mulana and doesn't like Hollow Knight solely because it's too derivative for me (though I still respect it as a good game) should I play Marrow? What does it do so well that you put it up their with LM?

>>379433236
Are those nipples?

>>379431269
>The King also fucked up and started treating the vessel like a friend and called him a hero
Isn't that better than just pretending its nothing and have it grow resentful and vengeful?

>>379433272
If this game is so worthy of infinite praise, why don't you make your own thread about it?

>>379433528
Not him but /v/ is a fast-moving board it's impossible to discuss niche games anymore.

>>379433236
i just found la-mulana to be a boring, tedious, unnecessarily-cryptic turd. i don't want to need to whack every wall just to beat the game, or bust out a pen and paper every two minutes

>>379433528
he said before that he enjoys ruining threads about games he doesn't like
basically he's massive faggot

>>379431269
>>379433501
I think its implied that he's not the true vessel, the protagonist is. The kingdom was doomed as soon as you fell back into the abyss.

>>379424405
>>379427139
>Dawn that high
I too enjoy literally ten times as much soul grinding as Aria had.

>>379433714
>I don't want to need to whack every wall
confirmed for not even playing it

>>379433714
>Unnecessarily cryptic
Is having puzzles designed to challenge the player really considered a "flaw" to you?

You're basically just disliking it for being different at that point, and it's fundamentally better for a game to try and be different than for a game to try and be the same shit as another game.

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>>379433393
It has great puzzles akin to La-Mulana although they're not presented to you in the same way. Where as La-Mulana would use tablets with text and riddles and shit on them, Marrow uses other visual aids since there basically is no text in the game. Puzzle difficulty is right up there with La-Mulana too, so if you are an actual fan of the game you'd know that La-Mulana puzzles are fair as well as being quite difficult at times and the same can be said for Marrow.

Other than that, the game just has amazing atmosphere. One of the best I've seen in a while. The aesthetics of the creatures and areas in particular are great.

The game is huge, pretty much La-Mulana size as well.

>>379433528
There is little point in shilling the game.
It's quite literally too difficult for most people and I'm not even meming about that. Go check the steam reviews and what not. There's threads asking if it's possible to get past the second save point kek. I'd like to imagine that they're overexaggerating the difficulty since I just found it slightly hard but for your average player who thinks he's hot shit because he's played the big bad dark souls games (kek) this is far too big a jump in difficulty.

>>379434165
I don't think anyone would call you on shilling a 12 year old game. why don't you try making a thread, you just might like it.

>>379432106
>that massive flowchart
Maybe I should get around to playing La-Mulana.

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>>379434437
Are you referring to La-Mulana? Because you said this
>If this game is so worthy of infinite praise, why don't you make your own thread about it?
to my post talking about Marrow.

I get the feeling I would love the shit out of this game. Sale when?

>>379434894
Just pirate it.

If you love a game after pirating it, just buy it full price.

I pirated La-mulana back in 2012 and ended up buying a copy of it from playism, steam, and gog, as well as multiple copies for my friends.

>>379432767
Wait until you get to the Trial of Fools.

>>379435056
No, I'm a cheapskate and don't want to ever pay full price for it ever. They should have made it $20 and discounted it to $15, then I'd buy it.

>>379434894
It's technically on sale on GOG, but it's only 15% off

>>379434819
I was, but my point still stands- fear about being called a shill isn't really an excuse for not making threads about games you like and resorting to derailing threads.

>>379435161
Yeah, I saw that, but I want a little more off. Plus I like muh Steam cheevos.

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>>379435056
>I pirated La-mulana back in 2012 and ended up buying a copy of it

I did too. I bought it for Steam and my Vita.
Pretty annoying though. I am a sucker for achievements and I've got literally non for La-Mulana because of that shit.

>>379435261
>>379434894
>20-40hrs of gameplayaverage
>it is actually 60hrs
>3 free content packs announced
>1 campaign dlc
>15$
>it is too much for him

What a massive faggot you are
Go play your Prey for 60$ sure it is more fun kek

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>>379435273
I never bought the vita version on account of never owning a vita but since I got the steam version last I never got the steam achievements until recently.

When I had no internet for a couple weeks, I played the game in offline mode, and when I got back online it looked like all my achievements were cheated in because they all unlocked at the same time, which bugs my autism, but I guess it's fine.

I ended up finally beating the game on hard mode, too.

I wish they would add the beastiary to the PC version because I want to see all the artwork/entries/drops data.

>>379435439
Is it really 20-40 hours or are you just yanking my chain? Because that's the longest Metroidvania in a long time, they usually take less than ten hours.
I might get it at $15, I don't know.

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SOON

It's going to be the mother of all Metroidvanias

>>379435848
As an LM fan I'm skeptical, I feel like the developers exhausted their knowledge on world mythology/history/legends/etc when making La-mulana that they had none left for La-mulana 2, which would not only suck because I want to see a 3D La-mulana made using a reverse-engineered version of the M64 engine..

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>>379415731
This would make my dick ROCK HARD

>>379436029
Actually they've gone into great detail about how most of the lore and mythology shit in LM was just made up as they went along and any sense of cohesiveness was either accidental or connected after the fact. LM2 is being made from the start to focus heavily on Norse mythology and they've said they're putting a lot more effort into making sure it all makes sense.

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>>379435254
I didn't say I feared being called a shill. I couldn't give a fuck about that.
There's no point shilling it because just about everybody on this board is a casual posing as a non casual.

>>379435624
I bought it just to support the devs basically, I haven't actually played it again.
Even though I've only played it once though I did play it on hard mode. That's actually the one thing I looked up about the game actually. I was like 2 bosses in before I realized there was a hard mode. I looked up what hard mode did and once I read that it affected bosses and shit I immediately deleted my save and started again. First thing I did was go activate hard mode from the very beginning, so technically (other than the first part of the game I suppose) I beat the game blind on hard mode.

>>379435848
I'm getting a bad feeling about it, honestly. You can see my autistic thoughts on it here >>379433368

>>379435841
it is.

>>379436481
I don't know, I'll think about it. When I get bored of Stellaris and Tekken 7. Neither of which I paid full price for, of course :^)

>>379435848
The fact they're using unity is a major red flag and they better fucking do something with the fact they're capable of making 3D puzzles.

>>379436584
>asking in a shill thread if you should buy the game
what did you expect? I mean honestly.

>>379436704
I've looked through the threads and done experiments in my head and I didn't arrive at the "shill" conclusion for this particular game. Seems like people genuinely enjoyed it. Night in the Woods was my control, naturally.

>>379436916
then buy it you autist

>>379414615
oh boy cant wait for even more hollowshilling

>>379437093
No, buying games on sale is half the fun.

>>379415710
/v/irgins are this entitled

>>379435841
I just beat it yesterday at 45 hours with 94% completion rate. Gotta traverse the world looking for secrets I missed now.

>>379438020
Jesus, that is long then. Usually these games take under 20 hours for me even 100%.

>>379438303
I should mention I probably "beat it" at around 30 hours but continued playing to find secrets and realized I still had a shit ton to do. Including going through entire new areas and acquiring new traversal upgrades. Doing all that let me get the true ending by fighting the previously hidden true final boss.

>>379439117
So you can continue playing after the "final boss"? Or did you reload a save?

>>379438303
Any% can be done without much trouble in that time, but 100% is worth doing and takes much longer.

>>379439430
The game doesn't save after you defeat the boss and nothing is closed off to you at that point, so you just continue the save file.

I really don't like 2d metroid games but I liked SotN and Guacamelee. Will I like this?

>>379439647
depends on what you didn't like about metroid, and what you like about SotN and Guacamelee

>>379439780
Fuck it, I'll pirate it. play about 3-4 hours then buy it if I like it.

>>379436459
>They've had updates like "We're bringing back the 2D platformer" like, nigger, seriously? It's bigger than it's been in decades. I've got this feeling like that's gonna be another mediocre game.
If you've followed the development of the original and remake of La-Mulana you'd have plenty of insight into NIGORO's direction. It was originally a very explicit tribute to Maze of Galious back in 2005 when indie games still hadn't become mainstream. Since the remake and moreso with LM2, their philosophy has been "What if instead of moving to 3D games everyone just kept making 2D games? What would they be like now?" LM2 already has far more quality of life improvements than its predecessor and has abandoned the MSX homage thing in favor of modern design choices. They aren't "bringing back" anything, they're moving the genre forward.

NIGORO has made a ton of games besides La-Mulana, their pedigree is solid and there's no doubt they can deliver. The fact that they clearly misjudged the Kickstarer thing and opted for Unity and have talked about outsourcing are reasons to be cautiously optimistic, but they've also posted consistent progress and have already shown how much better they're able to do without constraints.

>>379436430
What is wrong with you? Can't you just let some people enjoy talking about a game? Are you in such a bad place in your life that the only slight satisfaction is hating on people about Metroidvanias on the internet? Just leave people alone.

>>379424818
I'm missing just one. I've clicked all over the place but just can't seem to find it.

>>379414615
>fucking july
these lazy bastards