>game introduces a mechanic or gameplay concept to the gengre

>>379381682
dota 2 and souls.

>>379381734
Buddy I love Dark Souls but what did Dark Souls introduce?

>>379382289
Difficulty :^)

>>379382289
Meaningful Death
Rolls
Estus

>>379382392
Nice one

>>379382289
Dark Souls wasn't the first in the series you turbonigra

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>>379381734
>Dota 2
>Not Dota 1

>>379381682
Undertale

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Jump packs

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>>379381682
it was a bug at first, and I feel just cause 2 came pretty close to freedom of movement with parasail + grapple but nothing beats jetpack and skiing.

Disgaea
I'm probably wrong

>>379381682
Halo invented fps

>>379382392

Death is literally meaningless in dark souls tho

Princess Maker is still the only game worth a shit in it's own genre

>>379382814
Losing all your souls is meaningless?

>>379382814
In the first one yeah but then went and artificially made it more difficult by cutting your max hp in the sequels

>>379382504
Yeah my bad I kneejerked to Dark Souls because that's what 95% of /v/ talks about. Okay, what did Demon Souls introduce?

>>379382392
>Meaningful death
Depending on what you mean by this, no, it was not the first introduction of meaningful death.
>Rolls
You've got to be kidding me. I don't think that OoT was the first game with rolls but that came way before Demon Souls.
>estus
In what sense, respawning potions?

>>379382986
>I never played DeS

>>379382984
People can beat it at soul level 1 I doubt loosing 2 or 3 levels is gonna make the game unbeatable

>>379382986
Wasn't that how it was in Demon's Souls?

>Souls started at Dark Souls
>Fallout started at 3
>Persona started at 3
>Final Fantasy started at VII

>>379382984
Mostly.
Besides, if you're rolling around with enough souls that you'd miss them if lost, you're doing it wrong.

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>third person space shooter
>dog fighting begins after you bind kill engine
>still the best at it

>>379383158
>>379383048
Hey theres a reason Dark Souls is lauded for perfecting the formula in Demons Souls
But yeah I haven't played it

>>379382289
>>379381734
Making a game moderately challenging so that normal fags hype it up as the hardest game ever made