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>He still hasn't learned Japanese >He still waits

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>He still hasn't learned Japanese
>He still waits years for low quality, memefied localizations

Mind explaning yourself?
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>Wanting to learn a language that is literally emojis.
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>>379380154
Get a life, nerd
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>>379380154
死ぬ
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>>379380154
I don't think learning any language is easy. Especially if you're not living in its country. I was lucky to live in Tokyo and learn jp there, but so called weebs can only dream about that. And you OP is just baiting them here like a fag.
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Any game of worth gets a localization. Memes or not it beats learning a shitty language only spoken on one island.
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>>379380237
GIRUGAMESH
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If the game has a voice over I can understand it fairly well. I'm too lazy to learn to read it.
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>>379380154
i dont have the time dude, pretty sure languages can take like 2 years to learn, also see >>379380384
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Where do i start?
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>>379380154
俺様わ話す日本
What now, faggot?
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>>379380154
I used that time to learn languages that are actually useful. Also having sex and being fit.
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>>379381279
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>>379380880
Learn kana, hiragana especially.
Learn basic grammar, while doing this, kana and basic words will be reinforced
Learn kanji + words

The last part is the worst because Japanese is a defective language. Native Japanese words already existed before Chinese characters started being introduced in to Japan, so the scholars and institutions decided to mix the two languages.

Kanji now have 2 categories of readings, on'yomi (the Chinese reading of character at the time it was introduced in to Japan, possibly different to what the reading currently is in China) and kun'yomi (the Japanese reading, anywhere between 0 and 10 can exist, happened because native Japanese words were matched with their appropriate Chinese character). This means that learning kanji alone wont help you because you still need to know how words are spelled.

Everything screams stupid in Japanese.
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>>379380154
I don't play weebshit waifubait garbage, you fag.
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>>379380154
>he says as he posts a translated vn
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>>379380154
>futashit
I'm not missing on anything good.
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>>379383137
Don't forget that any attempt to fix this was met with heavy resistance
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>>379382754
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>>379381279
>俺様わ話す日本
はい、それを味わうことができますか?
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>>379380237
>emoji
Kill yourself.
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>>379380154
I have a full time job.
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>>379383137
What do you expect from a tiny island full of angry inbreds?

The more I learn about Jap the more impratical it seems.
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>>379381279
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Futa on futa is objectively patrician and is superior and straighter than futa on female by every metric objectively, scientifically, mathematically, literally and statistically
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>>379384218
Anything other than male + female is pure degeneracy.
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>>379381279
ゆうあるあますたです
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>>379384323
Futa on futa is less gay and is more superior than male on female objectively, mathematically and statistically.
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>>379384218
Male on female is straight, provided that that male is you. Of course it's gay if it's another guy.
So basically the objectively most patrician porn is taking pictures of single girls and photoshopping yourself next to her.
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>>379384923
>not fucking a single girl and filming it to watch later
Also futa on futa is the straightest least cucked porn.
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>>379385075
>having the chance to physically touch a real girl
GET THE FUCK OUT NORMALFAG
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>>379380154
I'm too lazy, fuck learning 3 different alphabets and chinese runes which are drawn with 3000 strokes.
I'll be stuck with machine translations forever.
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>>379384323
lmao gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>379383717
How to learn Japanese

Step 1
Don't
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>>379380154
Mind explaining why you didn't even pass N2?
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>>379380154
Learning a language purely for recreation? What a waste of time.
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>>379380154
Japanese is a meme language
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>>379380154
How many HRPGs actually require you to know Japanese though?
VNs I'd fully understand because the story is actually important, why would you give a shit about the story in something like the OP though? Any other RPG can usually be figured out because the battle systems aren't anything more complex than DQ
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understanding a language and mastering a language are different things. you don't need to be a master
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>>379385964
Playing video games purely for recreation? What a waste of time.
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>>379386475
Do you really play RPGs for the shitty battle system?
Just like VNs, story and world flavour is important.
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>>379387008
>90% of HRPGs
>story, world setting, characters etc. being important, never mind good.

Hardly.
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>>379380154
>Faggot learning japanese just for video games
>Probably an enormous weeb who wont keep japanese friends
>Other people in thread just insulting a language that is not theirs out of ignorance
>No one just genuinely interested in another culture its people and language.

Why is /v/ so bottom of the barrel intellectually?
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2 nukes wasn't enough
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>>379380154
which game
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Learn Chinese faggots. It's the only language that will matter in a decade.
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死にたい
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>>379383274
Old people that refuse change.
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>>379387201
Don't get me wrong, anon
I'm interested in their culture, and moreso their history
Just not the language, it's incredibly inefficient
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>>379387387
>Not learning both
>and korean
It's like you hate pussy
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>>379387853
>incredibly inefficient

I don't think you qualify to say unless you speak it and multiple other languages to compare.
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>>379380154
I do not need to explain myself to low-life scum like you
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>>379388050
>kanji are based of chinese hanzi
>the entire hanzi character set needed to be literally completely remade by the government on the hope that the average Chinese citizen would actually have any chance of learning it
>efficient

There's a reason practically everywhere else in the world (including places like fucking Korea which used to use hanzi) now use an alphabet.
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>>379380154
i'm learning Cantonese and from there hope to move to Mandrin Chinese
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>>379388380
The problem with the traditional chinese characters it was based on was that the whole country did not have access to the level of education needed to learn it. It still works on a smaller level like in taiwan. Japanese does not have this issue and what you are saying only applies to written word. Oral japanese is pretty good at expressing vastly different ideas depending on context.

Don't use chinese history to justify your ignorance please. Traditional chinese characters created a culture of hard work and intellectualism that can still be seen in chinese culture today and carried that over to the other countries that adopted them. The characters are plainly a work of art compared to other forms of writing.
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>>379388457
Don't be dumb learn mando first Cantonese people can still understand you. Unless of course you are dating a canto girl then by all means.
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>>379387387
Where's that copypasta about a guy saying you should never learn Chinese because you'll be forced to work with them which is a miserable experience
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한국 > 일본
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>>379380154
>not learning Japanese to experience its culture unironically
you're a disgrace
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>>379388975
I hate that because it's super biased I lived in china for a year and hung out with people who lived there for over a decade and while corrupt china is literally a playground if you know chinese. But you guys literally just listen to hearsay and treat it as gospel while bathing in your own ignorance.

It's really sad to see americans act so ignorant and know that you guys are my country men.
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>>379383717
i took japanese 1 and 2 in high school and steps 2 and 3 might as well have been how the teacher teached
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>>379389014
It's only good for fucking slutty korean pussy and you fucking know it.
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>>379389215
It's just one guy's personal experience man calm the fuck down.
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>>379385424

this game was fucking shit because of the way it handled pregnancy
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>>379389397
That was the point of my post that it was one guys experience but people always point to it and treat is as the only word on china. Only to screech and defend their ignorance 80% of the time if something different is said.
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>>379388763
>traditional chinese characters it was based on was that the whole country did not have access to the level of education needed to learn it.
>Traditional chinese characters created a culture of hard work and intellectualism
So a character set fostered a culture of intellectualism to a society who was too dumb to be literate in that character set?
Asians have some of the highest IQs in the world yet were by and large too dumb to learn traditional chinese, meanwhile sub-saharan Africans, often seen as some of the dumbest people in the world could easily pick up English, Portugese, Spanish, French and a variety of other latin languages.
Again, practically every east asian country that adopted hanzi at some point has dropped it out for something significantly better, and so would Japan if it wasn't that the language would become an unintelligible clusterfuck with just kana. Taiwan being the only real exception because they're china's bitch.
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>>379389463
Acerola games are all kind of shit yeah.
Only good for one fap or two.
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一人の少年がとある少女に恋をします。

直接告白することはできず、なんとか彼女の電話番号を手にした彼は、変な電話番号にもあまり気にせず電話をかけるのですが、実は彼女も彼のことが大好きで、両思いだったのです。このことに気づいた彼は大喜びするのでした。

しかし翌日、彼が昨日のことについて話そうとすると彼女は困った顔をします。昨日彼が電話で話した相手は今彼の前にいるその女の子ではなかったのでした。実は、電話機の向こうの彼女はこの宇宙には存在していませんでした。彼女は並行世界の者だったのです。その並行世界では、逆に彼女が彼に片思いをしていたのですが、並行世界の自分は彼女のその思いに気づいていなかったのです。

何だかんだで、電話で知り合った二人はある取り引きをします。自分のもっとも深く、プライベートな秘密を分け合うことで、相手にいわゆる「並行世界の自分の必勝攻略法」を教え合うのです。

その作戦をもってそれぞれ好きな人を追いかけまわる間に、彼らは自分の世界よりも電話機の向こうの相手のことがもっと好きになってしまいます。お話はそういう恋の本質について問いかけます。
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just watch porn you retards
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>>379389604

> Acerola games are all kind of shit yeah.

I miss when they were called Saboten. Misaki and Kanade were pretty decent, I guess.
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>>379380613
>i dont have the time dude
you dont have 20 minutes per day?
>pretty sure languages can take like 2 years to learn
do you plan on dying before then?
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>>379389683
No you play it.
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>>379387387
>No morals and no ethics.
>Copycats with no creativity.
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>>379380154
I'm too stupid.
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>>379389561
Then counter it with your own experience. You don't need to go on an autistic tantrum about it.
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I'm not a weeaboo
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>14 days since the last autistic Japanes thread
>Learnt Katakana
>Learnt Hiragana
>Learnt 20-30 ish of the Radicals

Slowly making my way to anime desu. The biggest step so far is trying to figure out the autistic use of "tsu" and "u" and "-" in the middle of words.
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>>379389942
>learning radicals

Good job anon. You're gonna make it.
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>>379389942
Start Tae Kim as soon as possible
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>>379389598
>So a character set fostered a culture of intellectualism to a society who was too dumb to be literate in that character set?
Stopped reading there the rest of your post makes no sense. Majority of the population where farmers and the like who had no access to education. t was the elite and scholars who were able to study , make poems books etc.. that influenced chinese culture for years to come.

I think you know this and chose to ignore it for the sake of your argument since this is very basic knowledge. Either way your point is lost how about next time argue about something you have an inkling of knowledge about.

>Asians have a large IQ
oh I wonder what culture conditioned them for that? Must have nothing to do with the previously mentioned years of culture and intellectualism sowed into the country's history and language.
>Taiwan is different as chinas bitch
Nothing to do with keeping traditional characters.

Seriously why re you arguing about shit you have no knowledge on?

I would have to explain such a large amount of chinese culture to you to continue this conversation and its so fucking burdensome.
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>>379380154
I just can't get past the Kanji, it discourages me every time I try and learn it. I can learn the words, sentence structure, and the two character sets fine, but as soon as Kanji comes out I'm lost. There's just too much. Why do they need three character sets?
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>>379390168
>Tae Kim

I'll have a look thanks. My next step after the 210 radicals was going to learn the 615 Kanji over a few months.

Need to start associating audio to the words now
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>>379390168
I am 26 is it still worth me to learn this backwards language? I already mostly memorized hiragana. But learning a language to read porn and watch anime seems really shallow
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>>379388457
i know both cantonese and mandarin.
why do you want to learn cantonese though?
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>>379390536
>learning a language to read porn and watch anime seems really shallow

If you have enough time for porn you have enough time for this. I'm 28 and was the guy who's 14 days in.

Everyone needs a hobby.
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>>379389804
>No morals and no ethics.
You don't need morals and ethics. you need laws. go fuck yourself with your fake morals which you don't even practice but then try and force on others. anybody talking about morality just means do as i say and not as i do while trying to fuck you over. that's why chinese are smart cause nobody cares about your invisible rules used to game others instead there's laws and nobody gives a fuck about your feelings. chinese are smart while you're stupid. japanese are using the chinese writing system because they didn't even have one while the chinese has one of the most advanced civilization on earth.
>Copycats with no creativity.
Copyright doesn't exist so you can go fuck yourself. that's some kike invention to seek rent. chinese are smart so obviously they aren't going to get screwed over by imaginary rules like copyright you fucking loser.
>did you not purchase copyright the wheel? sorry! can't make those :^)
>i copyrighted air so pay me a fee for breathing!
it's even better cause everybody knows you don't buy anything and just leech off torrents but talking about copyrights. so pathetic. your whole world is demented and wrong. china is the richest culture out of the 3 and is the smartest. them having flaws doesn't mean anything since nobody is perfect
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How long would it take to learn and memorize Hiragana and Katakana?
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>there are people who unironically think chinese is a good and efficient language
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>>379389804
>Knows nothing about chinese culture
China is fucking rough if you were born chinese you are nothing but another brick in a wall Getting ahead is all that matters. Even then they care for friends and family more than anything else thats where corruption comes from
>Copycats with no creativity.
You are aware that korea and japan literally stole chinese culture right? Also they have some amazing works of writing google the 4 great works of china
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>Know my kana
>almost finished reading tae kim's grammar guide in its entirety and trying to remember it to heart (or at least retaining enough of it that in case I need to reference it it shouldn't take too long)
What's the next step I should undertake?
should I follow this >>379389942
dude's ways and focus on radicals and actual reading/listening now?

I did try the kanji grinding once but burned out after 2 months and thus only managed to learn about 1000 "new" kanji. Most likely I burned out cause I didn't do anything besides 2k/6k every day and just trying to remember the cards I saw instead of actually applying it.
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>>379390858
Took me 12 days using Ankii flashcard program.

You can also google "Hiragana drag and drop" for a good flash game
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>>379389463
>>379389604
>>379389773
This game had top tier sex.
What are you on?
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>>379390823
Oh hey Zhang Xiao Ping, shilling China for those shekels again are we?
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>>379390462

You can thank the filthy Chinese for that.
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>>379391085
The art is good, but the way how scenes are generated is the most dull and lazy bullshit ever.
It's a major boner killer.
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>>379391068
I'm no expert but if you know 1,000 Kanji you should be knowing how to put together basic sentences
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>>379390504
>615 Kanji
Which ones? You should start Core 2K/6K right after the radicals. And don't bother with RtK, KKLC is way better.

>>379390536
If you have too much free time, then go for it.

>>379390858
2-3 days should be enough.
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>>379390536
Age does not stop you from learning. I know that a lot of boards and threads, websites and forums and somesuch would like you to believe that if you didn't do x since birth, you will never be actually be able to do it, and that people are born with talent and that hard work doesn't exist. But most of those posts are just from people who failed to do it themselves most likely from a young age or lost interest
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>>379391307
Those 2 months are about 2 years ago by now sadly. And I only restarted my efforts 1 month ago. So while there are a lot of basic kanji I remember and things that I hear that make me go "I know those words" I'm kind of in a situation where I'm not sure where I stand anymore
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I'm finally at a level where playing games isn't a big struggle anymore. I still have to look up a good amount of vocabulary and probably will for a good while but I don't see games taking me three times as long to beat as they would have in English like Persona 5. I don't regret playing it in Japanese but that shit took me 300 hours. I hope nothing else takes that long.
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Japanese is really hard leave me alone
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>>379391336
Sorry I meant the 2K / 6K.

I think after I'm doing with the Radicals I'm going to learn just some basic stuff like Numbers. Days, Directions.

That way I can think of how the language is being applied as well as just what random picture words mean.
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>>379389215
How is it a playground.

Explain anon.
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Is there a good place to start learning? I got some easy terms coming up since I'm taking summer classes to finish my degree early probably wastes more money but gives me more time to look for an internship during the school year and I was thinking about taking some Japanese classes to fill in the gaps.
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>>379390746
grill
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Learning foreign languages is intellectual cuckoldry
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>>379391659
I found the Fluent Forever web page very useful and pretty much free for starting out.

There is also a dude here who's blogs I'm following from the start. He's got a good grasp on how to understand a language more than just learning words.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwV0yvyOYea4EieewSSQOMg
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>>379390536
I started at 28. Reading lots of porn at the moment. Loving it so far
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I'm doing the vocab anki rep shit and I've already gone through several grammar guides. It's been almost two years and I still can't read jack. Actually, can read some things but can't understand jack. I have no idea what >>379383525 wrote.

Am I going to have to take formal classes with a study group to get this shit in? Am I brain damaged?
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>>379391819
Nice, what age are you now?
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>>379391068
After Tae Kim, I did Genki 1 and 2, while doing 20 cards in 2K/6K. I tried RtK but I burned out pretty quickly. I picked up KKLC and the mnemonics are great, so you should try it if you want to learn isolated kanji meanings.

Also, you should know enough to start reading Yotsubato. Download the reading packs and try to read one or two chapters a day.

>>379391595
Just do 2K/6K in that case, the first words you'll learn are numbers and days of the week I think.
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>>379391659
well it doesn't get easier than
first
>learn kana
second (your pick in which order, or try to mix them)
>learn grammar
>learn radicals
third (do both at the same time)
>start reading/listening slowly
>mine kanji for a deck or grind 2k/6k

Then take classes in the meantime.
Do note though if the class tries to teach you static sentences or takes 2 years to learn kana you're being taken for a ride
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>>379391904
29
of course, porn is usually easy mode and repetitive.
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>>379391882
From the perspective of me, a dumb dumb, how can you read grammar but not know what that anon is saying?

>>379391813
Thank you, I subscribed. Do you think Memrise and busuu would help?

>>379391819
Well, how old are you know? I just want to play Idolmaster and import games.
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>>379389779
SHIIIT. GOD BLESS JAPAN. I NEED A SOURCE NOW!!!!!!!!!

I have a huge boner on unconscious/dead girls
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>>379391882
you fell for the same meme I fell for when I started
Baseless vocabulary grinding through 2k/6k does not teach you Japanese. From the second you finish tae kim or genki you have to start actually reading and/or watching. This is a very arduous process as it involves in the case of hearing for you to first watch something without subs, then watch it again with the subs on, and for a third try for comprehension without subs again. And considering your average anime ep is 20 mins that's 1 hour for 1 ep.

Reading might be a bit easier but you're gonna have to read digital documents for ease at first so you can toss rikaichan or programs like it at it. Then if you don't understand a word you can jot it down in a notebook for reference and continue reading.
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>>379391882
Install Rikai-sama, ITHVNR and Hanahira. It should be pretty easy. If you don't get something, check DoJG or Tae Kim.
You can do it.
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>>379380154
It didn't work out so I decided to devote all my time into learning how to draw instead.
And I don't regret it at all.
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>>379380154

No game is worth spending two years of my life to learn a language that has no practical use beyond my all in all unimportant hobby. If I wanted to learn a useful language, I'd learn French or Spanish.
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>>379392320

> From the second you finish tae kim or genki you have to start actually reading and/or watching

What's the point when I have no idea what the fuck I'm reading? I have literally no way of checking to see if I read something right or I'm screwing up the meaning unless there's a translation or something.
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>>379392556
Well you grinded all those words and still cannot read a sentence now can you? The easiest way to begin reading in the beginning is to read a manga or light novel that has a active translated version. Then you'll have a reference point. However if you actually knew your grammar rules you wouldn't need a reference since the rules basically fill themselves in if you add the words. Nobody ever said this wasn't going to be tedious in the beginning.
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>>379392426
How is french practical?
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>>379392373
post art
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untranslated japanese games are mostly trash anyways
I don't particularly want to play another wizardry clone with minimal variance from the formula
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>>379392959
It should be posted anyways
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>>379392426
>No way I'm going to learn Japanese so I can read magna, watch porn or play Japanese games
>I'm going to learn a language where most people already speak English

This is the core thing with Languages. Unless you have an active use for it you'll never have the discipline to learn it.

This is why I can stick with Japanese and not French. I have no reason to ever speak French. In France they speak English 100% of the time.
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>>379391819

How did you learn it? Like what was your progression like? Did you study for like 30 min each day or something?
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>>379392426
>Français
>Utile
Ne me fais pas rire

>>379392556
Read Yotsubato, you don't even need to know moonrunes to understand.
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>>379392756

I was reading this last night and I was surprised that even after 4000+ vocab words I couldn't read about 30% of the words. I added them to my vocab mining deck so I could learn them for the future, but shit's disheartening as fuck when I have to look up a bunch of kanji I don't know.

>>379393315

I actually gave up on Y& because it was pretty hard to understand since that little cunt almost never uses kanji.
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>>379392242
Filename senpai
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So back to basics.

Is there an easy webpage for when you need to use 'tsu' before a constantant?

Seems to occur a lot with P and K letters.
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>>379393020

I live just south of Canada and Spanish is useful on a resume. Especially closer to the major cities and in service jobs.
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>>379393442
Don't worry, I know exactly how you feel. This is not something that's just unique to you luckily, in fact I think this is the case for most of us who try to learn the language through using the /djt/'s resources. I'm bilingual myself on the basis of being European and English being my second language. I remember being a little kid and actually having to use a English -> Dutch dictionary for certain things on the menus to understand what I was doing (I remember being afraid of banjo kazooie cause I didn't know pressing Z deleted save files so I thought it was a random chance back then). And slowly but surely I learned English and now here we are almost 20 years later.

Bottom line is don't give up. If you really like your chinese cartoons this will just be an obstacle you'll have to surpass. And with time you'll be reading/watching like a pro and then you can be the guy who says he played Dies Irae in Japanese
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>>379383369
The porn is actually top tier
Won't post any of the webms here because it's a blue board, but i busted some mighty loads to rondo
Too bad the actual novel was a really pretentious try hard shithouse
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>>379393601
When it's a long sound and you would write it with a double consonant in English.
Tekken てっけん (鉄拳)
Without the small tsu, it would be Teken てけん

Basically small tsu doubles the next consonant.
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>>379394472
Yeah I looked it up and that's what the guide says.

It's still a little difficult when I'm listening to the Anki cards. It's seem totally random when they emphasis a Consonant or not.
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>>379381279
>>379380370
>>379383525
>>379383886
>>379384481
>>379389649
thank you google
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>>379393442
You can try Axanael in that case, it's pretty simple.

What's your picture from? And are you doing 2K/6K? I'm 2000 cards in, and know most of the words. Those you don't understand you should at least know the kanjis, so you can guess the meaning.

Anyway, learning a language isn't easy, but don't give up, read more and you'll make it.

>>379393601
>>379394925
It depends on the on-yomi of the kanjis. If a kanji ends with a ツ, a チ etc., it'll become a っ in a compound word. But don't quote me on that, I'm a beginner too.
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>>379390536

Well I started when I was 24 and I've been doing fine.

>But learning a language to read porn and watch anime seems really shallow

Don't ever say shit like that. You're living your life and you're only going to live it once. Do what interests you.
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>>379394925
It's not an emphasis. It's just how you have to write it if you have a word with a double consonant.
That's like saying that it's random if an English word is going to have a letter 'a' in it or not. Small tsu is part of the "alphabet".

And if by any chance you meant that it's hard to tell if it's a real tsu or a small tsu for doubling the next consonant, it's called a small tsu for a reason. It is actually written at half the size.
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>>379395296

> What's your picture from?

(かまとりぽかり)] 夫に一途な妻の裏風俗アルバイト日記 Warning: it's cuck shit.

> half my words
> can understand that

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>379392426
Every part of this post is sad.

Imagine caring more about your boring job than your hobbies.
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>>379389942
little tsu after something just means to make it longer if I remember correctly
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I don't see why I should learn a useless language.
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>>379386319
Rondo Duo
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I've already learnt 2 languages, don't need to learn a 3rd one
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>>379380154
>playing rondo duo for the plot
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I passed N1. Is that enough for video games?
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>>379380154
Why the fuck do they move like animated rubber, it's fucking weird looking.
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>>379396614
Come back when you've passed kanken, kiddo.
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>>379395859
The dash means an elongation a small っ means there is a pause
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>He literally will waste years of his life learning one of the most arbitrary, ghetto languages ever made by a bunch of sake-drunken rice-pickers who took the Chinese alphabet, felt it wasn't the right kind of obtuse, and shuffled it up over the span of centuries to make it their own brand of bullshit just so he can embarrass himself in front of Japanese people and play games that are made for the actual lowest of the low in their society
>He probably has an anime avatar
>He will probably post a smug anime face along with his post as though that doesn't instantly mark him
>He will pretend that he isn't considered a joke by any rational human being
>He can't even say he does it for free since he probably spent money on supplementary materials or wasted bandwidth on getting free versions of even lower quality
>He'll probably give up and try to use Duolingo or Rosetta Stone
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>>379396701
>Why is futa on female art absolute garbage
It's simply a fact of life.
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>>3793801544
でも日本語を勉強します。
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>>379397373
Why so upset buddy?
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I only learned japanese ironically.
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>>379397480
I'm not, I just like riling up animeposters. Not everyone who makes fun of you is angry, in fact they're usually laughing.
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Japanese is finally starting to roll out on Duolingo for anyone interested, currently the course is only available on Android (can use emulator on PC) and iOS.

btw it only teaches up to N5 level :^)
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>>379397373
I see a Jap must have stolen your gf
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>>379397686
I tried Du-lingo but I feel it has everything backwards.

It teaches you words and pronunciation before it's taught you letters. I plan to return to it one day but for now I think there are better resources online.
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>>379397882
Girlfriends are for straight people, you faggot.
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>>379393824
>falling for the wagecuck meme
>not going on /biz/ and putting your life savings in some cryptocurrency for 200% gains a week

Learn languages that you will experience (listen to or read often) rather than those "beneficial" for a job.
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>>379397951

You're fucking stupid, I have a girlfriend and I'm gay.
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>>379398271
Taking it up the ass doesn't make you a girl anon.
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>>379380370
Should be 死ね. What you wrote is "shinu" which is just the verb "to die". "Shine" however is to order someone to die.
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>>379380154
nihon no geemu wa kusoge kara doudemoii
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>>379389779
>trying to register on that site to download the translation
>they have to send a confirmation email
>still havent sent it
I can probably learn jap by the time I get this shit.
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>>379381279
Cute

>>379384481
>gibber gabber gibber gabber.

>>379391882
>>379394925

Try this, anons
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar
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http://erogames.website/
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>>379400739
Should I "play" YMK?
I've had it sitting on my HDD for many years now.
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>>379399849
Whats with this type of fanart for the game? Was it adopted by tumblr or something
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I've been learning bit by bit. Instead of hard, it feels overwhelming due to the stupid amount of runes and the vocab your get by combining them, plus there various readings of reach rune.
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>>379400876
You should.
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>>379397974
How much have you made?
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>>379400162
Oh hey it's the russia fag. Get out Russia fag.
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>>379380154
I did, I understand it more than I can speak it though. I stutter when speaking and the only reason I wasted my time was for a Jap girl who turned out to be a fucking slut who cheated and dumped me for some slanted eyed manlet even though she slept with me 4 times and we went out for about 6 months.
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>>379380370
>(I) die
thank god, one less faggot
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>>379400739
What is this?
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>>379380154
Rondo duo is good.
>>
I wish there was a good futa on male game. I don't care how gay people think it is, it's my jam.
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>>379380154
Japanese is a dead language.

I'm devoting my time to Chinese and Korean instead.
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>>379403078
You only banged her 4 times in 6 months lololol ok then she preferred a manlet over you LOLOLOLOL.
>feelsbadman.jpeg
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>>379400162
>tae "ですます is literally hitler" kim
no senpai
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>>379403174
Viruses
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Do it for her.
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I'm working on it. It's tough.
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>>379380154
>He wants to fuck a puddle of jelly
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>>379403078
This. I fell for the Nip gf meme as well. It's not true for any weebs in this thread. Don't mean to sound like /pol/ but you should just date within your own race. It just feels right and is more likely to succeed.
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>>379380154
[blog]
I'm learning it (3 years in, only got a wee bit serious last year), I actually know enough to be able to talk with Japanese people on periscope.

I've been lazy as fuck though, so it really takes a long time for me to get through just a single chapter of manga. I'd say I know about 500 or so words just from JLPT5/4. I'm nowhere near good enough to go through a visual novel or videogame without getting discouraged though.

[/blog]
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>>379392242
Soldgirl Town. You kidnap girls and train them into prostitutes. Here's a handy little guide that I used so even without a translation I could reach end game.
>>
I'm lucky and have friends and close family friends who speak the language fluently so I've been able to learn because of them. If you try and do it by yourself you will never understand it. Books, TV, music, is not enough.
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>>379403281
Futa on male is shit.
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>>379392320
Also, I'd like to back up this guy's advice.

Do NOT just grind kanji or vocabulary mindlessly... You need to apply what you've learned by reading or watching anime. If you're into Japanese music like me, that helps as well.

Overall, anki is a meme. Lose it as soon as you can.
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>>379403753
No fetish is inherently shit except scat and cuckolding.
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>>379392063
this. i may not understand the majority of the story, but the eroge/porn scenes in vns are babby-tier
>>
difficulty:
eng>jap
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Japanese is one of the worst languages on the planet. Kanji is a clusterfuck and people spend the whole life learning it.
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>>379403990
Futa on male objectively makes one a feminine and therefore inferior male, ergo it is shit.
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>>379392320

visual novels are great for people who are learning JP, it's trivial to extract text from them and they have voices
>>
Rondo Duo is too fucking good
https://exhentai.org/s/37e4f9d5ae/756729-94
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>>379403784
>anki is a meme
I would know literally nothing without anki.
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>>379404258
There is literally nothing wrong with being sexually submissive with someone you love and trust (ie. not any random slut). It's only outside the bedroom where being submissive is a bad trait.
>>
>>379380154
>He learns Japanese
>Not for a job, betterment of self, or furthering their education
>For low quality weebshit marketed to braindead permavirgins

Mind explaining yourself? Oh right, you can't.
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>>379404715
I see you are also a man of taste.
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>>379404715
Submission and being penetrated are feminine traits, desiring those feminine traits makes you feminine, and ergo an inferior male.
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>>379404783
There are no such things as "good" and "bad" reasons to learn something.
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>>379404783
>doing anything for any reason other than that you want to do it
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>>379404205
As an ESL that is learning Jap, this is bullshit. The only hard part of English is pronunciation.
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>>379404946
No, weebshit definitely falls into the category of worst reason for anything. It's just pure cancerous garbage.
>>
>>379405130
Go back to neogaf.
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>>379380154
isnt that gif from some gay trap hentai
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>>379403637

I'm like the opposite, probably like 6 years since I started but been very much on and off however I can read a lot but speaking or even making my own sentences I'm completely terrible at.
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>>379405696
maybe?
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>>379405696
no it's from a futa visual novel
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>>379405696
does this look gay to you?
https://exhentai.org/s/8bc01cd074/756729-8
>>
i really wanna learn jap so i can talk to my close friend at pixiv and twitter

any advice?
>>
>>379387201
>>No one just genuinely interested in another culture its people and language.
Well, I'm sort of interested in seeing the countryside, with all their traditional buildings and shrines.
Cities probably are shit like everywhere in the world.
>>
>Took Japanese in middle school and high school on Saturdays
>College doesn't offer it so try to study on my own
>Try grinding Kanji every year but always end up burning out
>Go to learning specialist
>Turns out I'm dyslexic

After school I didn't have energy for anything outside my wage slave job. Now I feel I should just go bottom up, as we used Genki in class, but I never read Tae Kim's grammar guide.
>>
>>379404848
My brother.

>>379404912
That is a rigid and defeatist way of thinking. Honestly, mostly every male today is inferior because they aren't constantly impregnating bitches. If you let things hold you back because they are not masculine enough or too feminine, you will constantly be insecure in your own skin. Besides, submission isn't inherently a bad thing, as long as you aren't submitting to everyone and you aren't being abused.
>>
>>379404912
doing what you want is a masculine trait. caring about what you're supposed to do is a cuck trait
>>
>>379406321
>>379406472
How sad are the ways inferior men attempt to justify to themselves why they're not what they truly are.
>>
>>379380154
I'm trying to get through Tae Kim's book along with doing the memrise course and it is seriously annoying that the kanji lessons for vocab give the definition instead of the kana first
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>>379406129
listening J-POP
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>>379380154
>Mind explaning yourself?
Sure. Kanji is shit.

If every line is voiced, I can import and play it mostly fine, but menus/items will still bugger me silly depending on how kanji-fied it is.
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>>379380154
>he buys localizations
>projecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lfiTebewnc
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>>379406548
For a "superior" male, your logic seems to be lacking. I guess superior, real men don't need to think either.
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>>379406732
Kanji is great. It's so fucking annoying to read without it.
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>>379380154
i'm trying, but it's hard! i've made it through the first volume of Genki and study the vocab every day. Been playing Animal Crossing in Japanese and trying to translate with varying degrees of success. Any anons got suggestions for self teaching nihongo?
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>>379407068
It's absolutely fine to read in just hiragana/katakana as long as they put in spaces.

Kanji on the other hand, which has some characters that can have up to 100 fucking meanings/readings is fucking stupid. It's archaic and needs to be reformed. Even adult Japanese don't know the majority of Kanji characters.
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>>379406321
>Honestly, mostly every student today is inferior because they aren't constantly getting Perfect A+ on everything which is why it's okay that I got <50 for everything in school, mom
>>379406472
>I do what I want which is why I let other men fuck me while wearing a dress and make up, it doesn't make me girly it makes me manly
>I also let other men fuck my significant other but its what I want so caring that I'm not supposed to do that would make me a cuck
>>379406995
To an inferior man, basic logic would seem to not exist, a form of projection they or you would use to excuse their inferior behaviors.
>>
I was actually doing really well studying but the past 4 days i've just jerked off constantly.
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>>379407269
Disagree, the anon talking about Y& is spot on. When I started reading it I couldn't understand half her shit because she talks in hirigana instead of kanji.
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>>379407269
The majority of kanji characters aren't used at all, so that's a stupid thing to say. Also, you don't read kanji, you read words which are made up of kanji. Sounds like you bit onto the "grinding kanji without context" meme. My condolences.
>>
I don't care how the localization goes, I just prefer playing games in English.
>>
龍 が 我が 敵 を 食らう
RYUU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU
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>>379407364
Not that guy, but as always it's the intention behind the action. If it comes from a place of insecurity it can't be considered manly.
>I do what I want which is why I let other men fuck me while wearing a dress and make up, it doesn't make me girly it makes me manly
"I want to be a whore because I'm insecure being a man and can't accept myself as I am"
>I also let other men fuck my significant other but its what I want so caring that I'm not supposed to do that would make me a cuck
"My significant other deserves to fuck other men because I'm not good enough"

D/s relationships exist and the proper ones don't have anything to do with insecurity or inferiority or anything. Just a desire to give up control for once because of a stressful daily life, or putting their partner's happiness first, etc.
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>>379408167
And futa on male/pegging isn't feminine/doesn't come from a place of insecurity how?
>>
>>379407269
Yeah, but you know who does know kanji characters? Chinese people, because the language is nothing but the kanji. Baffles me how you guys want to pretend how hard Japanese is but then when asked the hardest part is the entirety of another language.
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>>379408167
>I want my partner to dominate me because I'm insecure about my masculinity and not good enough to be a man
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>>379408341
There's something called prostate stimulation.

>>379408517
It could be the very opposite. It could be because you're secure in your masculinity that you can let go of the social judgement and let a girl dominate you without your ego being torn to shreds. Like I said, there are many reasons for doing things, and you should look at the reason behind them instead of judging the action itself.
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>>379409267
>i'm very secure in my masculinity that I can let go of the social judgement and let other men fuck me while I crossdress and then let them fuck my wife without my ego being torn to shreds
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>>379380154
>removed rondo duo because desperately needed space on my hard drive
>can't find the torrent again
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>>379409448
Dude, no one here is talking about crossdressing and letting other men fuck you and your wife except you. Why are you so hung up on that one scenario? There's a difference between being in a dominant-submissive relationship and letting other people black you and your wife.
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>>379409659
Why are you acting like those scenarios aren't both feminine?
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>>379409576
it's on nu nyaa
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2005897
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>>379409893
>english patched
kill yourself.
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while we're on the subject of japanese text, can anyone type this out for me?
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>>379380154
Where do I learn, senpai?
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>>379410075
japanese is there too dumb weeb
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>>379409868
Okay.

>>379410220
にほんごきりかえ
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>>379409893
Great.
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>>379380154
This artstyle infuriates me. Fuck these bitches and their stupid smug foreheads.
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