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Remove the Zelda setting(replace Zoras with generic fish people)

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Remove the Zelda setting(replace Zoras with generic fish people) but keep everything else.

Would people still call it 10/10?
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No. Nintendies will tell you otherwise though.
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Probably yeah, assuming it still had the nintendo logo on it.
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>>379373359

yep
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>>379373359
Honestly, no. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.
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Honestly yeah.
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>>379373359
You'd have to remove A LOT to make the game not Zelda. I guess a Sony fag wouldn't understand that most games have unique identities that can't simply just be wiped away without making it an entirely different game.
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>>379373359
in a universe without zelda, probably not, but if it was just a game that looked and played like zelda, nintenbros would sing its praises because it reminds them of zelda.
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>>379373359
The climbing mechanic and the number of things to do is what make me try this game
If you play it too, you'll stop parroting the same thing everyone already said, have an opiniĆ³n
You can even play it on CEMU
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>>379373359
A game is only good if it's marketing is good (sadly people can't objectively value products, it's just a flaw with humans)
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>>379374351
>BOTW is literally not a Zelda game
>but it will remind everyone of Zelda
choose one, fag, hard to have only one platforms, huh?
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>>379373359
Actually yes, the main problems people have with this game are by comparison with previous Zelda titles
>should have more dungeons like TP!
>should have bigger dungeons like TP!
>should have more plot like SS!
>should have X item from Y Zelda game!
>where's muh ganondorf?
>where are my Deku Babas and Darknuts?
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>>379373359

7.8/10 Too much water
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Even more people would

Most complaints come from comparisons to previous Zeldas
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>>379373359
The picture isn't comfy enough to go for a minimalistic cover
There should be a separate comfy cover with minimal to no text
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>>379373359
Probably not.
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I don't like Zelda games to begin with, so probably.
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>>379373917
compelling initial post.
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>>379373359
It wouldn't even be close. Most review sites would give it something in the 7 to 7.5 range, realistically.
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>>379374468
BotW is a Zelda game. It's just not an Aonuma style one.
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>>379374364
>CEMU
>just tried it for the first time tonight
>fucking silky smooth 30 fps after downloading a shader cache
>game is pretty fun and still looks great at 1440p
so this is the power of patreon...?
not bad.
not bad at all haheheh...
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>>379373359
no lol "professional" reviewers would rate it down to ~5-6 for the game breaking durability system, the tech being behind TWO console generation and for the shit framerate.
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>>379373359
Yes, there were plenty of hidden gems during the wii era that only had a single entry and were amazing, this would be the same situation.
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>>379375169
BotW is how Zelda should have always evolved. A true open world and not a linear progression storyshit game.
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>>379373359
Yes. Stay mad, op.
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>>379373359
>Put it on ps4
>Change fps to 60 fps
>Shrink the open world
This would have been a solid game
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>>379375242
I love the open world portion, but I do wish there was some more indepth dungeon designs and assets to go along with it
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Remove everything Zelda about it and put it on PlayStation 4 and you can bet your fat ass that sonybros would call it the best game ever conceived.
Make it a PS4/Xbone multiplat, though, and it'd get 8s at the most. Maybe a couple 9s.
Put it on Wii U/Switch as well as the above and those versions would get 6s and 7s.
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Of course not.
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>>379373359
Nope, 6/10 at best.
/pol/ would call it sjw shit for having MC dress as exotic bellydancer to sneak into all female village.
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>>379375396
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>>379375132
Why? Look at Skyrim's score and get back to me

>>379375320
>implying it can run at 60 on the Piss4

>>379375427
>at best
Hehe
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>>379375427
they already do that
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>>379375321
Real dungeons along with the smaller shrines would have made the game perfect. Right now, it's just a solid 9/10.
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>>379375396
Why the fuck do people think reviewers will score a pretty well polished open world game lowly? Fallout 4 has an 87 FFS
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>>379375530
That's because Fallout 4 was a good game
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>>379375530
Fallout has Zenimax backing it.
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>>379375212
>Wii
>gems
>plenty
this meme really needs to end
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>>379373359
No.
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>>379373359
No.
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>>379375530
I'm a big fan of the game and even I can see it has some flaws. They don't bother me at all and I love it regardless, but they're there.
Take out the Zelda stylings though, and I think it'd be harder to look past those flaws The have would appear to be more generic, and thus get lower scores.
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>>379373359
No.
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>>379374345
>he says, defending the least Zelda game out of the entire series
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>>379373359
Put Ubisoft on the cover and then ask.
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No, instead it would have a cult following on /v/ and then after everybody beats the game nobody would talk about it until threads coming up asking what was GOTY and like 3 people will call this their goty
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>>379375427
It's retarded ass pictures like this that make me hate the Nintendo fanbase, because you just KNOW that some faggot at a con cosplaying as Link will run up to whoever that Persian character is and do that faggot nose boop then recreate that flying scene. I haven't been to ONE con where some Nintendo autist/autists doesn't try to recreate faggot Nintendo memes.
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>>379373359
Yup. Anyone who denies the great status of BotW is an idiot.
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>>379373359
I'm in deep conflict.

Mainly because this re-created the feel I had with 2d zelda on gameboy, it had the huge open world with actual gameplay.

If this would have come to the ps4 with half the content. It still would have just been a weird wtf even bother game for normalfags. But since it came on the WiiU and switch it was more of an awesome and thrilling new look and normalfags could forgive the game.

But the otherway around normalfags would not forgive the game since they want cinematic experience games or something akin to Bethesda RPGs since they are somewhat the standard when it comes to RPGs for normalfags.
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>>379375738
You sound like you have autism desu
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>>379375713
Triforce Heroes?
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>>379375743
Even Disaster: Day of Crisis is a better game that Breath of the Butt
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>>379375620
the operation rainfall by itself already offered good stuff
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Why do you faggots say it goes back to 2D Zelda when those games always had a high number of large dungeons?
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>>379375932
because muh wandering around a sparse environment
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>>379375716
>>379373359
>>379375743
>>379375248
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>>379373359
I would still call it 9/10 assuming the character designs were still great
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>>379375932
Short dungeons, less puzzles, more focused on exploration
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>>379373359

No it would still be regarded as a good open world game because of how it doesn't clutter your map with bullshit and lets you explore as you want but it wouldn't get the same universal praise and people would be more open with their complaints about it.
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>>379375713
That's skyward sword you dumb nigger. BotW at least keeps puzzles, SS ditches exploration altogether
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>>379373359

I'd never call it a 10/10 due to its performance issues/graphics/minimal soundtrack

But it's a solid 9.5/10 and it deviates from the Zelda formula enough that the Zelda name is just a vaneer/backstory.

It's the best Zelda game and simultaneously is unlike pretty much every Zelda game we've played.
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>>379375486
BOTW in 4k already runs at better framerates on potato i5s if they're OC'd a bit and that's through an shitty emulator

There's no doubt that BOTW running natively on a vanilla ps4 in 1080p would easily have a constant 60 and the extra memory would reduce pop in and the super low cliff textures.
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>>379375713
>muh items and linearity make zeldu

Please tell me you don't think this.
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>>379376214
I5s are stronger than the fucking PS4 though
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Let's be honest, they only get away with the minimalist ost because it's zelda/nintendo, you remove those names and it instantly loses two points.
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>>379376261
But many people hate the OST, it's very polarising in BotW. Also, why would it 'lose 2 points' just for that? You're rating a videogame not an album.
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>>379376219
what do you call a video game without progression?

no seriously, what do you call a video game without progression?
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No. Without the brand recognition, the mediocre aesthetic and the weapon durabilities would have turned more people off from it.
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People said that about horizon, so since botw is a better game, yes.
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>>379374872
>7.8/10 Too much water
Let me guess, you liked Wind Waker though, right?
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>>379376250
emulation pretty much raises the actual cpu performance requirements x5 to x10, the fucking switch has a garbage CPU and a tegra 1
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>>379376360
> a video game without progression
real life
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>>379376005
>So butthurt he took the time to make this
Kek
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>>379376261
It really is all down to taste. I loved it a lot and it meshes well with the extended play sessions people will have with this game. The Hyrule Field themes of the past became grating after a few hours of the same 3-4 minute loops, and I wanted to turn off the game whenever I had to sail in WW.

As for every other location that isn't the field in BotW, it all has musical tracks behind them.
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>>379376534
I liked it because I could put my own music on while exploring and not have a huge amount of overlap.
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>>379376360
...now you're trying to convince me that BotW has no character progression???
>what are hearts and stamina
>what are stronger weapons and bows
>what are arrows
>what are upgraded outfits
>what are champion abilities
>what is Link's house
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>>379373359
Of course. Even other developers recognize it as a masterpiece, read an article about it recently. Basically game designers already knew all this before but BotW is the first game to implement all these changes + new stuff like the chemistry engine. They also acknowledged only big companies like Nintendo even has the budget to be able to afford to create a game like BotW. It's game of the generation for sure.
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>>379376261
Fuck you, the minimalist piano tracks are great. I just chill out near ruins sometimes to enjoy the view and music.
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>>379376651
All pointless when you can fly a boulder to Ganon's castle, gear up inside, and take on the final boss in <40 minutes.
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>>379376005
Black letters with a white outline show up on nearly anything anon.
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Yes, actually if this wasnt called zelda we would be have shit posts about witcher 3 vs breath of the wild.
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>>379373359
if you make it not a zelda game you erase all the continuity. this like a final fantasy game, this is an actual sequel.
shit like how everything went FUBAR because the princess failed to manifest her divine powers that everyone expected her to have due to being the latest reincarnation of the Goddess Hylia gets immensely undermined
even shit like finally getting the master sword loses all impact if its not THE Master Sword but some new Excalibur knock-off
the ruins of the temple of time, meeting Deku Tree jr., the older Zoras that are openly racist towards Hylians despite the two races having been allies for centuries, the Gerudo expressing shame and guilt that Ganon was once on of them, the way Ganon has kept coming back again and again no matter how many times he's defeated
You erase all the context for those things so none of it means anything to the player
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>>379376383
Zelda's aesthetic is a part of its identity. The name alone is not how people recognize a Zelda game.
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>>379373359
I don't have any nostalgia for Zelda games because I didn't play them. I played a bunch of them for the first time last year, and only liked Majora's Mask.
I also liked BotW quite a lot, just because interacting with the world was nice, and finding my own way to do things felt rewarding. So yeah, I'd probably enjoy it just as much, maybe more because Zelda characters annoy me, like they're always trying to be charming.
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Yes because the gameplay is incredible.
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>>379373359
No because the Zelda settkng is part of the BoWT setting, it's interesting because you see a setting Link has never faced before.
>Oh shit why was Link cryofrozen
Etc.

This game setting is built upon the old ones, same reason tv series don't change characters every other episode.
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>>379376735
>linear gameplay
Isnt /v/ ass blasted that games are fucking linear, now its reeeeeee doesnt matter since theres no linear progression

Every time /v/ every time
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>>379376735
Yeah, if you're good enough to not get hit once.
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>>379375242
I love Breath of the Wild too, but people who disagree with linearity are idiots.
Sure it works well, but linearity allows developers to tailor the experience and don't have to spend thousands of man hours on testing to make sure the game holds together in as many situations as possible.

Previous 3D Zelda games are still excellent games, but I can agree, BotW is better than pretty much all of them.
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>>379376927
I wonder if people legit believe this or they're paid shills.
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>>379376487
Not him, but who didn't love WW? It was excellent and was the game that taught me to not judge a game on it's art style and graphics.

Game was great.
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>>379375731
Like Gothic?
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>>379377019
If the game was even a tiny bit challenging, you wouldn't be able to go straight to the final boss and succeed with nothing. There should at least be a little bit of incentive to go and do the other stuff.
>>379377085
You can't get one-shot in Zelda. You'll always survive a hit from full health with a quarter of a heart.
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>>379377019
>implying we can't have a balance between linear and non-linear progression
i miss metroidvania genre.
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Someone post the "how many hours without salt" picture
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>>379377094
How can you say this when the game lacks dungeons/unique items?
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>>379377203
You can't do the job you're being paid for?
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>>379375320
>Shrink open world
Surprisingly the most retarded statement of this sentence
>put it on ps4
so it can be raped to death by corporate types who don't know what makes a game fun? no thanks
>Change fps to 60
yeah that would actually be really nice to have a more stable framerate, but then literally the only thing reviewers would care about is that the graphics aren't as good as Horizon. The graphics shouldn't matter at all, but that's all that they'd give a fuck about

all in all, apart from the better framerate, the game would be considerably worse on ps4.
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>>379373359
I never finished any Zelda game
I played at best 3 of them, includiong BoTW
and BoTW is still the best game I played this year
So yeah. Zelda franchise is meaningless for me but game is great.
So suck it
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>>379377242
>every single player out of millions is a payed shill, p-people dont really l-like this game!!
sonypepes everyone
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>>379375713
>the "Zelda was never open world" meme
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>>379376735
>>379376735
Disregarding you moving the goal post again, even that takes some progression from how you start the game. You just admited that you need to get the Stasis ability and better weapons (at a bare minimum) to beat the game.
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>>379376214
>ps4
>better than potato i5s
You realise that the ps4's cpu is built from teh same ones that go in ultrabooks right?

I do agree the game would run better if run on ps4, the ps4 is factually more powerful than the Wii U and the Switch.
Too bad it'll never get a game of the same caliber as BotW
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>>379377319
Don't forget to screenshot your posts.
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>>379377163
>You can't get one-shot in Zelda. You'll always survive a hit from full health with a quarter of a heart.
You're literally lying. I got one-shotted by a silver lizalfos earlier. And that's not even talking about early game when every fucking thing knocks all three hearts out of you.
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>>379377163
Have you actually played BotW? You most definitely can be OHKO'd.
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>>379377393
PS4 already have GTAV, toddler.
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Make it a multiplat and it wouldn't even be in the running for top 10 goty. For some reason there's some sort of mental gymnastics for this game to have terrible 2007 graphics but if it were a PS4 game? Lol it would be a whole different story.
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>>379377550
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>>379373359
honestly it would probably be a 9/10.

But there would be NO haters.

Because the only haters the game has are Zelda/Nintendo haters.

So naturally even at 9/10 it would still reach universal acclaim, even if it doesn't set review records.

Fuck the haters.
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ITT, Sony niggers reveal how little they understand game design by thinking that erasing the name of a game and changing some character names is enough to erase the game's identity.
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>>379373359
Well if it's still a Nintendo exclusive it would still get 10/10

If it wasn't a Zelda game I wouldn't have even played it desu

However let's say I did play it, to me it's still be a 9 or 10/10 without the zelda setting. In fact it's made me expand my view on this type of open world game
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>>379377597
stock image reply from a paid shill
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>>379377738
You're unironically saying that GTA V is anything more than a 5/10?

Don't you need to be over 18 to post on this Venuzuelan parks and recreation meeting minutes?
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>>379377653
The thing is, breath of the wild plays so differently from the other zeldas that if you hid everything "Zelda" about it, you might actually be able to pass it off as another series
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>>379375713
>Entire point of the game is to reinterpret the origins of the franchise without the baggage that was there 'because it should be'
>People bitch that it's not Zelda enough
I don't get it.
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>>379373359
>replace Zoras with generic fish people
Fuck you!
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>>379377936
List all the things that you'd have to remove to make BotW no longer Zelda.
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>>379377853
It's certainly better than the toddler trash you're trying to sell here.
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>>379373359
>it's good for a zelda game because every zelda game before it is trash compared to it
>it's good because it's a new IP from nintendo that actually feels like a modern, 2017 game

cannot win
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>>379373359
Absolutely not.
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>>379377276
>so it can be raped to death by corporate types who don't know what makes a game fun? no thanks

Man I'm not the guy you're replying to but this is how I can tell you're a blind fanboy. I don't give a fuck about the game being on PS4, or Ninty, I play everything, but PS4 has a ton of good IPs with their own identities, unraped by corporate suits. I'm talking timed-exclusive, exclusive or otherwise. Paid by Sony or not.
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>>379378072
Replace all direct references like names, rupees music etc
Enemies could just be model swapped

Not much else to do. It's not very Zelda ish. There's no items and no dungeons, link doesn't even look like link. There's voice acting etc
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>>379377225
Doesn't BotW have a lot of new and unique items that have only appeared in BotW? It's really only missing the temples that Aonuma Zelda have.
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>>379376383
Let's not forget
>What? Climbing a mountain for 10 minutes just to find one kolog seed? And there are 800 of these all over the world?

But it is related to Wind Waker so everyone will felate it shamelessly.
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>>379378538
But you don't even know how many there are, shitposter
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>>379376852
Oh yeah, the blond bitchboy will give it away.
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>>379373359
the game kinda relies on zelda references too much for that to work, so probably not.

I just wish it was actually good past the great plateau. Really hoping they reuse the engine to make something much better in a year or 2
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>>379378425
>no items
Runes don't count?
>Link doesn't look like link
This can be said for every Zelda
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>>379373359

Absolutely not, zelda bias is absolutely real. All of those 10s skyward sword got and the tantrums over Twilight Princess' 8 prove that reviewers are just afraid of pissing people off
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>>379378719
Plateau is the worst part of the game, you have terminal shit taste sorry
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>>379377148
They just know no better.
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>>379373359
No way.

Most of the praise it gets is for positive changes to the Zelda format, ironically enough.
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Remove the Zelda setting(replace Ganon with generic pig monster) but keep everything else.

Would people still call it 10/10?
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>>379376219
Name 10 main Zelda games without that
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>>379378807
How many open world games and Zelda games do I have to play to know better?
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>>379376680
>It's game of the generation for sure.
Not even close.

On WiiU, Bayonetta 2, MonHun 3U, and Smash 4 are all better.

On other platforms, Bloodborne, GTAV, and The Witcher 3 stand to contest it.

Hell, it's not even GotY, as Persona 5, NieR Automata, and Horizon all came out the same year.

If anything is revolutionary, it's For Honor's combat, not BotW's rehash of tired Open World tropes.
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>>379378872
Start with Ultima Online, kiddo.
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>>379373359
Obviously not but that's not what makes it a masterpiece, LoZ is stable of the Nintendo legacy and a powerhouse at that, if you can't see why that makes it the best game in the last 10 years then maybe you should stop playing Sonys bland Knack games and uninspired sequels and try out something created with love by masters of the craft. Sonybros don't know how to even play a game with difficulty though so don't come back crying to me about weapon breaks just git gud, once you start playing on Nintendo systems you're playing with the men and not the boys anymore.
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>>379377327
It never was. LoZ had linear progression with purpose. It wasn't a sandbox.
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>>379378886
>what are opinions
All of those listed are inferior to BotW and I'm not even a Zelda fan before this game
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Almost as epic as my fidget spinner!
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>>379377853
It's a better game than BotW. I own both, and I had more fun with GTAV than Zelda.
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>>379378952
I did, BotW is still better. I played morrowind, BD2 and fallout new Vegas too. Now what?
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>>379378817
Missed the point of OP's post faggot.
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>>379378983
I'm like totally going to believe that you've played all of them and objectively judged them and not a shill.
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>>379379060
What point? He's just salty Nintendo made a great a game.
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>>379379056
Just because you like it more? Not very convincing senpai, to me it's the other way round
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>>379378817
Yes. BotW is recognized due to a legacy of better games. LoZ, started that legacy.
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>>379379059
>Now what?

Post your screenshots, chucklefuck.
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>>379374345
>You'd have to remove A LOT to make the game not Zelda.

This.

/v/ has attempted some utterly desperate nonsense to try and find some kind of angle to attack BotW, but this might be the most pathetic.
Let's take a Star Wars movie, remove the jedi, the light sabres, the force, the storm troopers, the races, the space ships and replace them with generic shite. Will it effect the movie?
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>>379373359

HZD still did well under similar circumstances so I'm going to say yes absolutely.
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>>379379106
>hurrdurr how can someone have opinions
If anything else you are the shill for listing those games

Only game on list I haven't played is P5, because I don't like persona 4
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>>379378872
Anything outside Breath Of The Wild to begin with.

In fact, don't even move from platforms if you think that will make daddy Miyamoto mad. Just play Xenoblade X to see what an amazing world full of rewarding and interesting things to see and do is.
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>>379379123
The point is that brand recognition and loyalty to any company will ultimately result in people praising anything and calling it a masterpiece, even if the end product has many flaws, it's still a 10/10. That's the point. Must've flown over your head.
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>>379378787
it was the only place with actual level design. The rest of the game is find shiny and then go straight to it. Plateau you had limitations and because of that it made it infinitely better than the rest of the game. Its the same reason people thought eventide was so good, because it set limits on you(though late game makes it terrible)
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>>379379124
That's the same argument you're giving me. Why should I bother to make a detailed post you're just gonna ignore due to your cognitive bias you fanboy? Go fuck yourself.
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>>379379167
>implying they aren't deleted
I never keep PC games for long, I always need space to pirate more. And how old is morrowind? 10 years?

Post BotW screenshot faggot
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>>379373359
>replace Zoras with generic fish people
the zoras are generic fish people?
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>>379379186
Why are you bringing up Star Wars all of the sudden?
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>>379379216
I played on Cemu though, now what? Are you going to keep projecting?
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>>379378975
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There's nothing unique about Zelda, stop pretending it's anything more than a generic "knight saves princess from the evil monster" story.
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>>379379283
>"dog ate my homework"

Fucking lol, shills are this bad at marketing.
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>>379379272
Damn don't get mad. I'm not even that guy you replied to. Why are you so butthurt over BOTW?

>>379379379
What the fuck am I marketing?
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>>379379312
Both fanbases are filled with autists
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>>379373359
it would be an even better game to me, the fact it was zelda meant I had high expectations going in, the final boss fight would be much less anti-climatic if the older games didn't funnel me into expecting a 1 on 1 swordfight after the boar form.
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>>379379263
So why did everyone hate TP and SS?
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>>379378886
>Bayonetta 2, MonHun 3U, and Smash 4
What the fuck
>GTAV, and The Witcher 3
Trash
>Bloodborne
GOAT, sure, but not as great as BotW.
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>>379379197
>If anything else you are the shill for listing those games
Yeah, I bet that guy is marketing 20 games, 10 companies and 2 consoles simultaneously.

You shills are pathetic.
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>>379379379
Post your BotW game faggot, both can play this game. If you supply a screenshot I will supply mine.
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>>379378963
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I bought it yesterday and played an hour or so. It's pretty damn good, and I can see many ways of this being great, so while I can't give a detailed opinion yet, I'd wager this could have been heralded an all-time classic remembered forever by everyone if this was a multi-platform game.
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>>379373359
Then it would basically be Dragon's Dogma without as many glaring flaws, which tons of people love. I loved it and I hate Zelda.
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>>379379489
>n-no, y-y-you do it first!

lmao
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>>379379485
Why can't you? It's better, more money, do you know how shills work, or are you an exposed butthurt shill?

Probably the later. Now run along, shill
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>>379373359
No, but it would be more deserving of it.
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I don't know if I would give BotW a 10/10. But why do people have this idea that games have to be fucking flawless to deserve 10/10s? That's just stupid. And the reason for why we have all these nine point whatever scores that plagues all reviews with whatever however many decimals.

A game shouldn't have to be flawless to be able to get a 10/10. It should be enough that it's the best, or at the very least better. Elevating the score 10/10 to this mythical status that no piece of work can't ever attain, is just silly. Why?
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>>379379489
Lying cuck
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>>379379450
Was not talking about the general public or even the majority of people who like zelda, was referring to the more autistic fanboys that get angry over an 8.8
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>>379379186
Star Wars stands on its story and setting, not gameplay. The same argument doesn't apply as VIDEOGAMES are an interactive medium.

The point of OPs argument is "is tgis game any good without the brand recognition and legacy of the franchise? If we had a near identical game, but under a new IP and a different publisher, would people still ride its dick so hard?"

The answer is no, they wouldn't. And your pathetic attempts at insisting that branding is necessary just helps to prove how mediocre the game actually is beneath the veil of ZELDA, and only fellate it cause it's a popular brand.

And back to the Star Wars argument, the irony us that if you removed the iconic branding from the franchise those films would still be solid. Considering Disney Star Wars is nothing but brand name fellating, and nothing of real substance.
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>>379379557
that's some shit tier damage control, nintenqueer. I hope they don't pay you much.
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>>379379556
>stuttering
Do it faggot. Don't have the game?
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>>379379628
Still waiting for those UO screenshots, marketing guy.
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>>379379626
Hope they don't pay you too much either. Where did I even mention Nintendo, shill?
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It would be a generic open world indie game
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>>379379596
As opposed to the autistic antifags who get angry over a 10?
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>>379373359
All other shit open world games get 10s why would it matter if this was explicitly Zelda or not?
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>>379379683
that's some shit tier damage control, nintenqueer. I hope they don't pay you much.
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>>379379692
Yeah, an indie game with a staff over 300 people and a development period of 5 years.
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>>379379704
Probably because they feel the 10 is not deserved?
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>>379379372
So what? It's what happens in between (and some Zelda games after) that makes the journey memorable.
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>>379379748
hope they don't pay you much either. I didn't even mention nintendo, shill. You did
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>>379379798
does that excuse "their" autistic behavior?
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>>379379849
Only if it is autistic.
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The way they let countless of people play the game hands free at E3 and essentially do whatever they wanted within the confines of the plateau. And everyone still came out of it with different experiences from each other. Is pretty unprecedented.
It being Zelda has absolutely nothing to do with that.
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Here you go faggots. Now post your zelda copy
>>379379556
>>379379595
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>>379379704
>game gets perfect score
>game is actually not good even compared to other games in its same franchise with lower scores
maybe there's a reason why
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>>379373359
yeah I would, because one of my main complaints in Breath of the Wild is how the main villain shouldn't have even been called Ganon. Trying to keep it as Ganon is probably what dragged the final sequence down so hard because they had to include the pig form for some reason.
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>>379379945
>inb4 they don't post because they don't have the game
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>>379373359
No. Solid 8 most likely. Reviewers would actually go into the issues the game has rather than being blinded by the Nintendo "Magic" meme.
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>>379373359
>>379373917

nope it would get 4/10 and tards would complain that it's even more shallow skyrim copy, just because it won't have zelda and nintendo sticker, but if game does have both stickers it gets automatically 10/10
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>>379373359
Yes. Game is praised for its gameplay and word design after all.
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>>379380019
instead they would be blinded by the open world meme like all open world games with a high score
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>>379379489
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>>379376005
>"Tom Clancy's Breath of The Wild"
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>>379379945
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>>379380076
Okay now I have a screenshot too. Now you can stop telling me that I don't know any better and accept that people can like the game so much it is GOTY to them. I accept that you don't find it as good too
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>>379380160
>this picture AGAIN
I see this everywhere, I don't think it's even yours
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>>379379945
Pretty good taste lad, no gonna lie.
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>>379379604
Bwahahahahahaha! Keep crying you silly little shit stain! It must burn you up knowing that BotW is considered one of the greatest games ever made. Cry some more, it won't change history.
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>>379378425
>Replace all direct references like names, rupees music etc
So, basically, make it an entirely different game aesthetically? Already, it's lost part of why people like BotW.
>Enemies could just be model swapped
With what?
>Not much else to do. It's not very Zelda ish. There's no items and no dungeons, link doesn't even look like link. There's voice acting etc
There are items and Zelda-isms like bombs with bombable walls, burning brush to reveal secrets, moving blocks to activate switches, lighting torches, the combat system (which has its roots in OoT), horseback riding, treasure chests, etc. And you may not call the shrines and beasts dungeons, but they are the same thing in terms of gameplay and there are no other games on the market with this set-up.
And Link definitely looks like Link. There's no mistaking him for some other character in the industry.
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>>379380225
It's mine. Fuck you.
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>>379379945
>undertale
>skyrim
>FC3
Otherwise okay
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>>379379604
Yes they would, the scores would be the same, there would just be less of them because less poeple would play it if it was just a nameless game
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>>379380402
Then why do you insist on shitposting in every single BOTW thread. It's amazing really, just a simple archive search will show how dedicated you are.
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>>379373359
It's the first zelda game i've ever played and i thought it was awesome so yes people would still love it.
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>>379373359
3 months on and THIS is /v/'s latest desperate attempt to find a flaw with BotW.

I am actually laughing my fucking ass off. Holy shit.
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>>379379945

>Undertale

Why
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>>379380417
Bot really. THE game is awfully average, not "THE GREATEST GAME EVAR MADE!!"

I still wanna punch ProJared in the face for his bullshit fucking video.
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>>379373359
>Would people still call it 10/10?
Of course not don't be fucking stupid.
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>>379379604
But OP point was all about the setting, shitposter.
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>>379380556
>I want to punch other people because they have different opinions

You have issues.
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>>379379604
Part of Zelda's appeal is its lore and setting. How do you not get this? In fact, this is part of OP's shit argument.
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>>379378975
Open world=/=Sandbox
Skyrim and Botw are open world and sandbox games.
LoZ is just open world. Because, you know, the world is open, but it's not a sandbox.

Only good zelda games are LoZ and Link's Awakening anyway, the rest is cringe inducing garbage.
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>>379380402
Not him, but, if true, lmao at your life
>waah zelda is shit
for months!
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>>379373359
/v/ insists the game is mediocre or worse. Always do the opposite of what /v/ says.
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>>379380595
More people would call it 10/10 now that it is no longer part of the console warzzz
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>>379380294
>Bwahahahahahaha! Keep crying you silly little shit stain! It must burn you up knowing that BotW is considered one of the greatest games ever made. Cry some more, it won't change history.
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>>379380556
game critics are very easy to trick into giving a perfect score to anything that is not the same cookie cutter formula and this game is exactly game critics bait, the only critics that actually scored it lower than a 10 are mostrly fan of the series that were disappointed in some of the dungeons/story/bosses because of high expectation (that they wouldn't have if this was not zelda) and contrarians like Jim Sterling that wanted to make some easy views by shitting on the game
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>>379380160
>>379380402
why can't you just deal with the fact that many people enjoyed the game and that opinions on it can be different?
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>>379380410
Not him but there is literally NOTHING wrong with those 3 games.
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>>379373359

Have not played Zelda in awhile.
Playing it on PC it seems okay, not sure what the massive hype is about though.
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>>379380741
It's just a vocal dedicated minority, not /v/

I shitpost the game although I really really like it
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>>379380548
Why not? Just because /v/ said it's bad doesn't mean it is.
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>>379380817
There is a lot of things wrong with skyrim, but the mods though
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>>379380889
It's just not that good, imo. The music was great, but the walking speed is so damn slow and the I personally don't like bullet hells. I feel that the monster town part with the long corridors and the general lack of variety really kills the replayability too
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>>379380480
Because you people insist on having these threads when I wake up and am bored, and continue to attack anyone who disagrees with you as "hurr, you've never played it it." I sunk 50 hours into it, and dropped it. It's the first and ONLY Zelda game I've ever dropped, as I actually forced myself to finish SS despite really disliking it.

Not only that, but the willfull blindness toward the game's flaws are especially frustrating, as I was one of the people MOST hyped for it, as it fulfilled a wishlist post I made on SWF after playing SS like 5 years ago. I was so hyped, I drew a fuckton of art for it too. So no, don't sit there and attack the people you disagree with as haters. People who are frustrated with the blind praise the game is getting aren't jelly Sony tards, they're fans of the franchise who feel the game didn't live up to expectations, getting drowned out by morons blinded by hype culture. It's the same as Force Awakens, I was calling that film garbage since day ONE. And only a year and a half later did people start to catch on.
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>>379380810
Why can't you?

Only reason I had to make those timestamps is cause you attack any dissenters as "not actual fans."

Fuck you.

No timestamps would be posted at all if you could just accept that people have different opinions, and not everyone has to like your favorite thing, instead of resorting to console warring each tine you're called out.
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>>379373359
I'd probably like it more, since I wouldn't be thinking about how much it needs a proper fucking dungeon.
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>>379381067
>willful blindness
Maybe they don't care too much about the flaws? Stuff like weapon durability can be fun for some people

But yes you are a hater, judging by your dedication to hating the game.
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>>379380796
Why can't Nintendo get 97 Metascores with every game they release then if "tricking reviewers" is so easy?
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>>379373359
the setting is a part of the game and its experience, so it's also a part of the fun to be able to be immersed in a particular setting
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Holy fuck the game is infuriating until you get more Health/Defense.

I'm up to 7 Hearts and just upgraded my Zora Chest/Pants to +2 and now I can actually deal with enemies without getting killed in one hit. Exploring Akkala and it's pretty neat, that gigantic maze building off the coast is cool.
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>>379381235
dude I only just entered the thread, I wasn't either of the anons that asked for proof. Having said that, I don't see what's wrong with asking for proof of ownership given how common consolewar shitposting is - in my view, /v/ would be better if everyone posting their hot opinions (be them positive or negative) about a game would also post some evidence that they own said game, so that others know they aren't just shitposting.
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We live in a world where people were dumb enough to hype and defend No Man's Sky to death less than a year ago. It's not surprising that people think another casual, empty snorefest is the best thing ever, mere months later. The name of Zelda definitely acts as an extreme hype proponent to these same people.
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>>379381635
>empty
Lmao
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>>379381375
Does hating Force Awakens make me a SW hater? Get a fucking grip you fanboy. This is the usual Zelda cycle too, we had this exact level of back and forth for both TP and SS before people realized they bought into the hype, and the games weren't that great. It'll be the same for BotW. Give it a year.

What sucks is that it'll be a year before we can have any legitimate discussion about the game without fanboys coming in and shitting up threads.
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>>379375182
>silky smooth 30fps
>smooth
>30fps
I love the game, but don't act like 30fps is silly smooth.
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>>379381635
At least BotW is crafted, unlike NMS' randomized planets that have the same 5 RNG areas to find.
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>>379373359
Given most complains only make sense in the context of the series, there's chances it would have been better received.

Even worse, people would have said

>this is what Zelda should have been, get your shit together aonuma!
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>>379381612
Then why are you attacking me for posting proof when I did?

That's the usual tactic with you fanboys, attack anyone criticizing your game as a sony nigger, and when provided with proof, either ignore them, or call them a shitposter. You just can't admit that your favorite game simply isn't as perfect as everyone pretends it is.
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>>379378886
>GTA V
>even close to the quality of botw
I knew people like you existed, but I didn't think anyone with taste this shit post on /v/.
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>>379379186
Well, they didn't remove any of those things and they made a non-Star Wars movie :^)

But yeah, you have a point.
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>>379373359
Absolutely not. 8/10 at best, Darksiders status except with awful combat
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>>379380762
>Seething rage.

Kek I love watching the salty kiddies desperately trying to find some kind of flaw with BotW. It gives me a warm glow inside knowing that Nintendo ass blasted so many of you.
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>>379381950
GTAV is a better Open World game than Zelda. Muh physics and climbing don't make it a better game. The world in GTAV is more richly crafted than BotW's wasteland.
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>>379382141
>more richly crafted
Hi rockstar shill, how about letting us ENTER the buildings?
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>>379382206
The same goes for BotW.
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>>379382043
>people still believe BOTW has bad combat
I bet they only mash melee and complain about bullet sponges too, lmao
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>>379382141
No it isn't but keep crying you deluded child, you understand nothing about game design.
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>>379382269
All buildings in BOTW can be entered though, shill. Now go back to rockstar and tell them to fucking put some soul into the next game, like good satire, and maybe even acceptable gunplay.

Oh and fuck shark cards
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>>379382281
seriously? it's objectively not very good. And saying
>he melees
just reinforces that the melee combat is actually bad. The dodging isn't very tight, the move sets have very little depth, and the fucking slowdown rush shit. I agree that using the physics tools is fun, but that doesn't stop the combat from overall being bad
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>>379381934
I'd hardly call my post an "attack", but anyway it's because your first timestamp makes it evident that you've been at it for months, so I'm saying you should let it go - people aren't just going to change their opinion on the game just because you didn't like it.
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>>379382380
>ITT fanboys pretend that Akkala Citadel can be entered and is a full dungeon with rooms and puzzles like Hyrule Castle rather than the wasted potential it actually is.
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>>379382505
>objectively not very good
False
>melee combat is bad
False. It's mediocre. The combat overall is far from bad. Dodging works perfectly fine, and you can easily cancel flurry rush
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>>379382671
It can though, there is just nothing inside. What now rockstar shill?
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>>379382782
>it can
Not it can't. Why are you telling lies on the internet?
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>>379382671
>with rooms and puzzles like Hyrule Castle

You mean I wasn't supposed to climb up the sides at the start of the game?
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>>379382705
bahaha okay friend, mediocre = bad when you're talking about some mythical game that's 10/10 everywhere. Just saying that if Zelda had nothing to do with it, people would have called the combat what it is instead of pretending like it's the best game ever
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>>379382505
Why is it bad other than"it's just like, your opinion, man?"
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>>379373359

It goes from a 9/10 to a strong 8/10
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>>379382671
Wow, ONE building in the entire game that you can't enter. What a tragedy.
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>>379383280
That's cause there's only one building in the game outside of Hyrule Castle. Kek.
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>>379383485
Lying isn't funny though
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>>379373359
I don't even like the Zelda series and when I started BOTW I wished I could make my own character.

Even with characters I don't care about in a setting which holds no significance for me, BOTW is one of the best games I've ever played. Easily THE best open-world game I've played.

Would people still call it 10/10?
No.

Would I still have as much fun with it?
Yes. Probably more-so if it had character creation and more personalisation.

Don't watch gameplay and assume you know all about this game. You haven't felt freedom in a game unless you've played this (actual games with objectives, not gmod or whatever silly little indie shit you're playing). That sounds douchy as fuck, I know. But it's true. I put a few points into stamina and completely bypassed an entire gauntlet because I chose to climb a mountain and go the long way. "Why would you WANT to?", the point is I CAN. I can choose to avoid parts of the game because they weren't afraid to give me the option to do so. That sense of freedom makes for an incredible experience. If you're too invested in your anti-nintendo stance, then go ahead and miss out on one of the best games ever made. Go ahead and miss out on THE best game we've seen in recent years.
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>>379383580
Show me any large buildings in BotW with rooms and things to do that you can enter. Hyrule Castle, IS LITERALLY the inly one.
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>>379373359
What if this was the first Zelda game (none of the older titles exist anymore), yet somehow everyone still had the same taste?
Would it still be garner massive praise?
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>>379383720
>moving the goalposts this hard
the conversation was about there being buildings in BotW, which there are in the form of the buildings within towns.
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>>379383720
So this is the power of goalpost moving!
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BotW literally did nothing wrong.
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>>379384085
>>379384210
There are plenty if buildings you can enter in GTAV.
>hurr, but not every single one!!
and it's the same in BotW. Who's moving goalposts now?
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It sure as hell wouldn't have had threads months after release trying to convince you it's somehow bad if you think about it or if you do this or compare it in this way
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>>379384324
as far as I know, there's only 1 "building" in BotW you can't enter (not even sure if it is supposed to be an actual building and not just a watchtower-type thing anyway), and it's in ruins. The other buildings in BotW, i.e. the ones in towns/vilalges, can all be entered.
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>>379384324
The citadel would have nothing but rubble in it if it was open. Its a destroyed building with no usage in modern Hyrule.

In GTA, there's probably a handful of buildings you can enter that aren't one-off story moments.
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>>379384529
>If Bloodborne wasn't made by From would people still like it?
> If The Witcher 3 was called "The Wild Hunt" and had nothing to do with CD Projekt and the entire game was changed would it still be overrated?
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>>379385743
Ugh, can you not?
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>>379385743
Kek.
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>>379381058
>It's just not that good, imo.
>imo
There you go anon. I didn't like it either, dropped it the second I met the skeleton with the shit jokes. But just because you, or me, didn't like a game doesn't make it bad. I for exemple, hate Zelda and ever MGS game except 1 and 5. I just hate these franchises, but I cannot say they are bad just because they don't rub in the right way.
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"Breath of the Wild has managed to bring classic open world mechanics together while not relying on them to guide the player through its world. You go and explore it because you wonder what's out there, not because a loot icon tells you to.

My expectations, and I mean for me as a Zelda fan, have changed for sure - they've raised the bar when it comes to world crafting and this sense of total immersion I get when I play it. While its world includes classic open-world activities, collectibles and loot-filled mobs, it definitely doesn't feel overloaded and allows the focus be on the exploration. You want to explore this land whether or not you are on a quest, or being tasked to collect/gather something. You know, If you were to remove all NPCs, quests and mobs, I would still take pleasure in exploring that beautiful world."

t. Damien Monnier
Senior designer of The Witcher 3

>/v/'s face when even the Witcher's developers like the game
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>>379386652
Kek. /v/ will never recover.
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>>379386652
B-but that's because he's a paid s-shill!
Witcher 3 sucks anyways
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sure.
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>>379375620
>wii
>bad games

Ps2 was shit because of the shovelware then?
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Does it still have all the small details that only nintendo does?
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>>379385743
This picture is right about Ocarina of time though.
That game does not hold up at all
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>>379373359
It would still be just as fun, so yes.
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>>379387478
>Epic Yarn
>Sonic Colors
>Epic Mickey
>De Blop 1-2
>Ivy The Kiwi
>A boy and his blob
>Other M
>Prince of Persia
>Dead Rising Wii edition
>Disaster
>Chocobo Dungeon
>Phantom Brave
>Xenoblade
>Conduit
>Goldeneye
>CoD MW3
>Silent Hill
>Cursed Mountain
>The Grudge
>Obscure
>Dead Space
>Wii Sports
>PES 2012
>Tennis
>Tiger Woods
>SSX Blur
>Kings Story
>Rabbods
>Go Vacation
>Wii Play Motion
Holy fucking shit who the fuck made this retarded list
So fucking bad
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>>379387478
This picture is proof enough the wii had a great library. It had a rocky start, but god damn it was a gamecube 2.0 with the sleeper gems.
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>>379387750
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>>379373359
>Would people still call it 10/10?
Yes. People bitch about it not being Zelda, so if it was its own IP, no one would be complaining.
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>>379388267
It really fucking doesn't.
Combat is so fucking boring with absolutely no variation in the entire game.
Dungeons puzzles are laughably bad but they've always been with Zelda games.
Music is the only thing that holds up
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>>379377276
>>Shrink open world
>Surprisingly the most retarded statement of this sentence

Why? What about the fucktardedly massive world makes the game better? There's nothing there.
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>>379388534
So because you prefer to run up to enemies and hit them until they die, combat is only that?
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>>379388534
Okay. I guess you're too young to understand how game design works. Time for bed.
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>>379388824
The fuck are you even trying to say?
Are you saying using all the worthless items to just add more steps to attack the enemy for no reason since it's ALWAYS faster to just attack them = more depth and varied combat?
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>>379388038
>Epic Yarn
great kids game, a little too easy but it was fun,
>Sonic Colors
The last good sonic game
>Epic Mickey
So bad they made 2 sequels for it right.
>De Blop 1-2
1 still cant belive this game RUNS on the wii.
>>Other M
Story was shit, it was a fun beat em up
>>Prince of Persia
The only good version of forgoten sands in on the wii.
>Disaster:
Great game
>Phantom Brave
Great game for JRPG fans

>Xenoblade
Oh you are shitposting

why am i wasting my time with you, here's another list so you can waste your time making another pointless list
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What if Zelda wasn't Zelda? 10 amazing reasons that will mind-blow you
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>>379389178
>So bad they made 2 sequels for it right.
Yeah because a bad game has never gotten a sequel
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>people care about scores
I played BotW, P5, NieR automata, and Nioh. The BEST games on that list are the ones that got lower scores, nier and nioh.
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>>379380402
nigga you pirated your opinion doesnt count its easy to shitpost when you didnt spend any money
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>>379389178
>Batman
>Captain Rainbow
>Conduit
>Sonic Unleashed holy shit this one what the fuck why would you put that on there
>Elebits
>Excitebots and truck
>Fishing Resort
>Geometry Wars
>The Grudge
>Lost in Shadow
>Project Zero 2
>Resident Evil
>Sonic and the secret rings holy shit dude
>Force Unleashed wii port really
>Spiderman
>Wii Resort
>Soul Eater
>Pokepark
>Bleach
>Onechanbra
>Lost Winds
Fucking christ bro you have fucking awful taste
Did you only ever have a wii and have to justify having it by playing all these shit games saying they're good?
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>>379389858
>>Onechanbra
Nigga i'll fight you
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>>379389105
>I don't know how to use my abilities, so every other method is invalid
I'd respect you more if you just admitted you aren't very good at this game.
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>>379390139
but he's right, sword and shield is far more effective the vast majority of the time, the other items aren't useful as weapons - they're just tools for specific puzzle and puzzle-style enemies.
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>>379390139
What?
Are you fucking retarded holy shit
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>>379390265
Quality rebuttal.
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>>379380043
>4/10

How can you type around that hate boner?
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>>379390494
Ok. You're an idiot though.
It's always more effective to just sword your enemies down though.
Using deku nuts and shit is just adding extra steps to hitting your enemies with your sword for no reason other than to make it look more complicated
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>>379373359
What traditional zelda elements did the game lack?
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Not at all.
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>>379373359
This might be the most pathetic attempt yet.
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>>379373917
fpbp
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>>379373359
botw is a 3/10 at best

if it wasnt zelda and if it was made by an indie team instead of nintendo, it would probably be a 5/10

the quality and quantity of the content is real shit and misses "nintendo polish", and the immoral bullshit like dressing link in gerudo lingerie and killing/eating dogs doesn't make any sense as a nintendo family friendly game.

in the end its still just a walking simulator
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>>379392137
>botw is a 3/10 at best

Imagine being this salty. I honestly feel bad you. What a deluded child. Are you going to cry?
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>>379392935
imagine being this salty that you have to give your shitty opinion over someone elses opinion
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>>379393067
Opinons are one thing. But calling BotW a 3/10 is just fucking salt. Keep crying.
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>>379393427
>walking simulator featuring degenerate immoral bullshit trying to disguise itself as a title in a legacy favored franchise while having almost no similarities
>(You) think these are all good things
>get so butthurt over your delusion that you project your own upset onto someone else
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>>379393665
Keep crying. Your tears sustain me.

http://www.gamesradar.com/were-all-talking-about-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-developers-explain-how-its-shaping-the-future-of-games/
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>>379373359
I don't think it would hit a 10, maybe 8 or 9
what makes it a 10 is it's complete revitalisation of a series that was becoming formulaic while still giving us plenty of nostalgia and familiarity.
Without that It just has solid gameplay and a basic story.
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>>379390789
In a game like BotW, resource management is everything, so learning how to use the environment, runes, and bow/arrow types to lessen the amount you have to use your melee weapons is valuable and many times much quicker and more fun.
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>>379373359
If you did that and put it under PS4 exclusive they'd hate on it badly
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>>379396014
anon, he was talking about OoT in that post not BotW.
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>>379380160
>Dibujo
Filthy spic SCUM.
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