The Switch is already starting to die. 3rd party games are already

Was it ever alive?

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TSUUUUUUUUU

Call me when this affects a relevant game.

>>379369142
Sure, if Switch will ever get any relevant games.

>>379368751
Stay mad bro.

>>379369203
It just got the most critically praised game game of the year, that's more than relevant.

>>379369392
But it's a WiiU port.

>>379369392
Yeah, the game that is also on WiiU and pc.

>>379369392
>Port.
>Already emulated.
Ok anon.

>>379369392
I did, too. On my Wii U.

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>>379369392
>It just got the most critically praised game game of the year
>Wii U port
>Cemu on pc
What did he mean by this?

The same cycle happens with every nintendo system

Didn't they have to nerf Minecraft to get it to run on Switch?

>>379368751
>frostbite
you know this is an engine PS3 runs, right??
the only reason they did not used it is cause FB dont have even close a native support for ARM. so they would have to retool a lot of it to make it work in Switch

>b-but muh journey mode
sonyfriends are so desperate now they call for single player campaigns in a fucking Fifa game??

Just a hypothetical, but if the Switch DID fail and Nintendo made another new console in say, 3-4 years, do you think they would just stop trying to be different and make a powerful console comparable to MS and Sony?

Like I can SEE what they are going for in the Switch, but I feel they are gimping themselves are little keeping the 3DS alive, even though I'm sure they will eventually have pokemon and shit on the Switch.

But, I think SOOOO many people would buy a powerful Nintendo console, something that could play shit like Doom and Mario.

>>379369690
>Wii U

Oh so you're the one that bought it.

>>379368751
The Atari survived mainly on gimped versions of games and it went down in history as a widely remembered, well-loved, and highly successful console.

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>>379369949
No. Nintendo's main goal has been to keep budgets low. BotW is by far their most expensive game to date and it needed only 2 million to break even. That's absurdly cheap in today's industry. Better to sell less sustainable than to spend 150 million dollar on marketing to force your shit out the door.

>>379369995
Yup. Got mine in 2015 for 100 bucks. Considering I already had a bunch of Wii motes and Classic Pro controllers, it was worth it just to get a Nintendo console with HDMI.

>>379369949
Nintendo can keep "failing" and yet they already won, Power consoles is a meme, after 4K 60FPS is barrier after that anything more is worthless and devs have show they can not use the extra processing power for anything else than eye candy

so 1 or 2 gens down the road, all attention will shift to how to make consoles smaller, not 8K 120 FPS that no TV supports except 52"inches

and Nintendo is already walking the power handheld path.

>>379368751
Kek drones btfo, Nintendo just lost the european market. This is bad, especially now during Ramadan and soon Eid

I keep thinking that Skyrim will be cancelled. Because that shit still has problems vanilla.

>>379370084
>so 1 or 2 gens down the road, all attention will shift to how to make consoles smaller, not 8K 120 FPS that no TV supports except 52"inches
Wrong

>>379370184
>Wrong
what nice counter argument mouthbreather

>>379370139
Haha why cancel it? Drones will buy that Shit no matter how many bugs and glitches it got

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>>379370084
4K isn't anything special unless you're playing on a monitor less than a foot away from you. Your opinion is garbage.

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People still stratch their heads why 3rd party support seems lackluster since N64 when Nintendo sent "FUCK YOU, WE DO NOT NEED YOU" letters to every single develooer eho supported Playstation.

You think people forgot?

Sony/MS will suck you cock to uave a meeting no matter who you are if you seem like a good developer.

Nintendo wants their cock sucked, ring kissed and apologized for wasting their time.

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>>379370084
Ok, you guys know more then Nintendo then I do so another question.

Why does Nintendo still have retarded online?

>>379370228
Drone

>30 minute E3 direct

Is nintendo fucking serious?

who the fuck cares about Fifa?

>>379370251
Mostly the frames. If Zelda couldn't run well, then skyrim won't

>>379370281
They're big enough to dance to their own tune. Industry standards don't really matter to them, so they do things at their own pace. Online has never been a priority before.

>>379370365
Why? Skyrim has a much lesser physics engine than Zelda

>>379370302
One console only, previous ones are around 45 so it's not as short as you think

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>>379370294
>gets called out
>D-Drone
every single time

>>379370302
>>30 minute E3 direct
just cause your thread is dying you have to come and shit post here baseless anon??

>>379370281
>Why does Nintendo still have retarded online?
>More stable than PS+ which is out of knowhere down twice a month
>free till next year
>still cheaper after the paid model goes live
dont know, you tell em why you think is bad??

>>379369949
I don't see Nintendo ever doing this. Nintendo will likely never do what Sony and Microsoft do.

The thing that most people don't understand about the XBox and Playstation is that both Microsoft and Sony purposefully sell both consoles at a substantial loss. If they were to try and actually make a profit off these consoles, they'd have to sell them around the $800-$900 mark. The same price for a PC of equal power at the time of its conception.

Instead, both companies sell their consoles at a loss, and make up the cost and additional profit on selling game licenses to game development studios. This is why its such a big fucking deal which console sells the most each generation. The more consoles they sell, the more developers want to develop for their console over the competition. This is also why exclusives are such a big deal to them. Exclusivity denies the competition licensing profits.

Nintendo on the other hand purposefully builds their consoles under powered so they can sell their consoles at a profit. Since gamers now demand graphics over everything else these days, this has put Nintendo is a pretty bad spot over the years. This, of course, makes Nintendo's consoles look weak and inferior to a lot of developers and why most development studios don't even consider Nintendo any more.

>>379370352
Eurotards with dream of being the next start in Real Madrid or Manchester but have the eye feet coordination of a drunk monkey

>>379370281
>Why does Nintendo still have retarded online?
Apologists will say it's because they're committed to local multiplayer only, but it's really because they're pretty clueless as to what modern gaming is. They have a captive audience of loyalists who will make them successful no matter what, but not at the level they could be if they modernized.

>>379370302
But anon!! It will be 30 min of new game trailers, nothing meme show shit :^)

>>379370302
Do not forget 10 minutes will be Mareyo.

>>379370417
Drone, hope you enjoy kiketendo

>>379370491
better than 2 hours of shilling sales, introducing hosts as if were the second come of jesus and finally 3 trailers and 2 pre-recorded game samples

>>379370371
Yeah. It worked out well for them with the Wii U. Also, while they sold a fuckton of Wii's, the number of games owned per console was somewhere around 3, which is REALLY low, especially when you consider that 1 of those games comes WITH the console.

Nintendo has been in trouble since the GC at least, because of their adamant refusal to get with the times and play ball. If not for Wii Sports, I genuinely wonder if they would still exist.

>>379370547
the Salt still deliver

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>>379369786
>>379369690
>>379369681
>>379369561
>>379369441
>Wii U has no games
>but every Switch game is a port
Which one is it /v/?

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>>379368751
The blowback from the Switch is really going to damage Nintendo.

Less games than ever, more worthless gimmicks, gimped hardware and soulless cash-ins.

>>379370589
Doesn't matter. Nintendoomed.

>>379370371
But it seems to be now, MK8D, Splatoon 2, ARMS, MHX or whatever it is.
Lotta online games.
Even if they can be played locally, a lot of the time online will be used and it just seems odd to not have standard online options like chat and such, even if they don't need to it would do nothing but score them points.

>>379370417
>dont know, you tell em why you think is bad??
First I don't care about if its paid or not, for both Switch and the other 2, but it doesn
t have a lot of expected features of online play, it now has to be done through a phone instead of being able to be done through the console and its not that stable.

My connection still gets dropped every 5-7 races in MK8D.

>>379370589
I never said the Wii U has no games. I got my Wii U for 100 bucks, and picked up MK8, Smash, and Xenoblade X, plus a bunch of SNES games on VC. Good enough for me.

>>379370365
The switch is more powerful than last gen consoles which could run skyrim, so the switch will handle it fine.

>>379369863
It's got worse draw distance than PS3 or XBOX 360 and really bad pop-in. You would think these two issues are the same thing but Nintendo Switch found a way to make them two overlapping issues.

>>379370589
>gets one game AFTER its successor is out
You're right, drone, great success!

>>379370590
>The blowback from the Switch is really going to damage Nintendo
yeah, poor em
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/nintendo-switch-console-may-earn-more-than-the-wii-jefferies-says.html

http://www.investopedia.com/news/nintendo-stock-has-18-upside-says-nomura-analyst-ntdoy/

>>379370589
But I have nothing against Wii U.

>>379369392

How did that work for the n64?

PS1 butt-fucked it.

>>379369949
It wouldn't get Doom anyways.

I don't know why people think that power is actually the problem here. Third parties, especially Western ones don't see an ecosystem that would support their games on Nintendo platforms. That doesn't change if the console is more powerful, the Nintendo ecosystem still remains.

>>379370712
Remember how well the Wii U did following the Wii?

The retards who don't play games market is only so big.

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>>379370491
Lemme sum it up for you

>muh switch sales
>show ultra rehash sun and ultra rehash moon
>amiibo
>announce more dlc for fire emblem
>show fire emblem heroes shit that we already know
>more amiibo
>5 mins of indie shit
>mario odessy
>you guessed it, more amiibo
>super smash bros rehash while reminding you about the corrins, cloud, and beyonetta amiibos
>antihype followed by a reminder that they'll be streaming their rehashes for the next two days

Screencap this. I fucking dare you. Ya know what, fuck it. I'm going to spam this every day at E3 during Gundamfag's nightly threads.

>>379370826
It's actually a pretty big market. That said, "The retards who don't play games, yet still buy consoles," market is significantly smaller.

>>379370589
yes the only worth while game on Switch right now is a Wii U port and can be emulated

does that help you think this through ?

>>379370654
>a lot of expected features of online play, it now has to be done through a phone instead of being able to be done through the console and its not that stable.

what features?? they only one they miss is Voice Chat and Friend Request, FR already said will be implemented later

for VC its meme

1) most people dont use
2) of those that use, most are among friends // pros
3) among said they use 3rd party programs like Skype or Discord
4) the few that use the in-game VC are dude bros and 12 years old both claiming they fuckd your mother
5) is a feature that requires saving apart processing power and band-whit for a MAYBE to be used feature
6) in that case rather than gimp the game for a MAYBE just detour VC to a 3rd party Nintendo branded Skype.

>>379370826
I dont remember Stocks being the highest ever been since mid Wii Era nor people saying its trending to outsell Wii

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>>379370949
>Wii U port
>implying the Wii U has a game
>Wii U has no games though that's why it's a shit console
>so it's impossible for it to port any games since there was nothing on the console
>thus the Switch got a magical meme game that was ported out of thin air

>>379370949
>Only worthwhile game
>Portable MK8
>Sonic Mania

I won't bring up ARMS or Splatoon 2 because that's waggleshit and a port, right?

>>379370826
>>379370929
>The retards who don't play games market is only so big.
>"The retards who don't play games, yet still buy consoles," market is significantly smaller.
Who the fuck you thought bought 60% of PS4s?

>>379370985
If you have to pay for online, it had better be an acceptable service. Nintendo is having us pay for online, and requiring the ownership of a smart phone in order to have chat, which is something that has been available since 2005, when the 360 launched. Possibly earlier.

>>379371040
How does that benefit you, as a player?
Nintendo wins while you lose.

>>379371095
Madden/Fifa/CoD players.

>>379369392
And everyone dropped it after 2 weeks because of boredom

>>379371095
nice meme

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>>379368751
>people bought a Switch for yearly Fifa rehash

really makes you think

>>379371151
I dropped it because of NieR Automata. I haven't picked it up again because the controls suck.

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>>379370949
You gotta love sonyger mental gymnastics tho
>BotW is just a port!!!
>Mario Kart 8.5 is just a port!!! ignore the new mode and upgrasdes!!!
>ARMS is shovelware!!! new IPs have to be Soul Clones are multi million AAA Eye candy!!!!
>Splatoon is just a full priced DLC!!!!
>Fire Emble warriors Musuous are shit anyway!!
>Xenoblade X 2. no body plays weabo shit RPG!!!
>Mario: O is just another souless mario yaa-hoo!! *1up* tiling!!!

watching em sperg out bring an smile to my face

>>379371125
Exactly, they bought a 250-500 dollar product for 2 games a year they'll shelf outside parties and boredom. For how much the NeoGaf 2 side of /v/ shitpost, many exclusives have abysmal sales for the popularity of the console itself.
>>379371183
Okay fuckboi, show us the top 10 on Sony.

>>379371215
all of that is true
Nintendo is now able to sell Portable tier and Portable budget games for HOME CONSOLE PRICES and you are celebrating.

L O L

Only Xenoblade or Mario O could even be considered barely interesting.

>>379371301
Skyrim Remastered is better than anything released by Nintendo since the original Wii with Galaxy.

>>379371098
A) You are not paying for online till 2018
B) you dont know how the service will be till it goes live
C) unless you live in a 3rd world country is likely you already own an smartphone to any degree
D) >muh Voice Chat
go back and re-read the post


>>379371105
the more popular Nintendo is on the market the mroe likely it will get further support from 2nd and 3rd party, at least for games I care on the GO for the visual one I have PC already

>>379371318
>Portable Budget
Huh?
>Portable tier
None of those games would be handheld titles.

>>379370894
>Sales
>Dlc
>Rehash
>Amiibo
Still better than all the celebrity and meme shit ubisoft and ea will be doing

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>>379371318
>its runs in a handheld
>b-but they are just BUDGET TITLES!!!
>said handheld is mroe powerful than their past consoles
see. it never fails

>>379371301
>Exactly, they bought a 250-500 dollar product for 2 games a year they'll shelf outside parties and boredom
But that's still a yearly purchase of a game. Keep in mind that the Wii launched at the end of 2006, and the Wii U launched roughly 6 years later. A total of 6 games being purchased would still be more than double what the Wii sold, and that's presuming that someone would JUST pick up Madden, or JUST pick up CoD. If they picked up Madden AND CoD, then you're up to 12 games, plus whatever 1-off purchases they make, such as that online Star Wars game that people sperged about. Also keep in mind that these people usually buy expansion DLCs, like map packs and the like, which is even more money.

so what's going on with third party support for this? is it already dead? haven't seen or heard anything about any upcoming relevant games except nintendo exclusives

>>379368751
It's inferior hardware, anon. Why does this surprise? Shadow of Mordor didn't have Nemesis mode in PS3 and 360 versions either, for example.

>>379371301
Exclusives don't need sales you retard. They are founded by Sony for the hardcore niche market.

>>379370894
>>muh switch sales
you sure this is not Sony's Presentation??

>>379371404
>the mroe likely it will get further support from 2nd and 3rd party
Not at all true.
the Wii was the biggest console of all time and received nothing but shovelware for more than half of its life.

You idiots get strung along by Activision and Ubi reps going on about how shovelware releases are "tests" for ongoing "support" that never materializes. It won't materialize because the only thing Nintendo cares about is holding an audience for its own software hostage, which is why they continually re-sell the same games again and again and trickle out VC games as though it is a technological marvel to get them running in this day and age.

They are just fucking with you. I know, I was in your place once for about 5 years with the GC into the Wii.

>>379371095
You are right, all the kids who buy nintendo consoles are hardcore pro gamers such as yourself.

>>379371485
As in, portable games are cheaper to make.
Sorry that "budget" is such a complicated word for you.

>>379371404
>A) You are not paying for online till 2018
So you WILL have to pay for it, yes?
>B) you dont know how the service will be till it goes live
Indeed, but looking at the horse shit they are requiring now, I would be surprised if it magically became acceptable.
>C) unless you live in a 3rd world country is likely you already own an smartphone to any degree
How does that make it ok? Did that make it ok for Xbone to have online checks because internet is commonplace?
D) >muh Voice Chat
Indeed. It is a feature that is, at minimum, 11 years old, and they STILL don't have it perfected.

>go back and re-read the post
Why?

>>379371507
Nintendo won't shut the fuck up about their switch sales.

>>379371565
>As in, portable games are cheaper to make.
anon, did the doctor drop you when you were born?

>>379371612
wanna go and bet money on that vs Sony non ironically masturbation on stage about PS4 and VR

>>379371612
and ports ofc

the next gen Nintendo experience

>FIFA won't have journey mode
Is that the mode where you play as some premade kid and have the set storyline that you can't control? I'm glad it won't be there, it's shit

>>379368751
Why the fuck would Nintendo release an underpowered console when they could've released something more powerful than the ps4 pro? How are they this retarded?

3DS successor is going to be enormous.

>>379371537
>the Wii was the biggest console of all time and received nothing but shovelware for more than half of its life.
fun fact, the only reason 3rd party ignore Wii was cause M and S together proves a similar userbase. so its as 50/50 to support either side

for as much as sonyfriends like to joke and shit on Microsoft, microsoft existence in the market and their choice to go for the power side like Sony is the reason why Sony survived 7th gen and got any support at all

>>379371787
They won't let go of the Wii's glory. They refuse to acknowledge that they just happened to release something that non-gamers found amusing at just the right time and at just the right price. Those same people abandoned the console in droves once smart phones became commonplace, but Nintendo is convinced that they can get them back with the right hook.

>>379371732
You don't get it don't you? this piece of shit game isn't aimed to people li you ind me but to the dudebro audience, and they sure love that shit, they love flashi graphics and everything, Nintendo doesn't offer that ergo this is catastrophiaccly bad since sadly dudebros and alike are a great chunk of the console market.

>>379371732
yeah, they renamed it for 2017, but yeah its basically the single player story mode

It just fucking hit me.

What if Nintendo doesn't consider Switch to be a portable and thus WILL NOT make mainline Pokemon for it?

They are autistic enough to do so.

>>379371872
Are you implying that the PS3 is somehow incapable of handling Wii ports?

>>379371661
PSVR is dead. Sony show shitty games, but at least they're still fucking games.

That and another Death Stranding trailer will get all the sonybro's peepees hard

>>379368751
>EA putting any effort into their games
I see nothing wrong.

third party multiplats are always gimped on Nintendo consoles. we want original third party IPs anyway, not the usual AAA garbo.

>>379371787
cause history proves power =/= support when it comes to Nintendo cause htey dont bend over and beg 3rd aprty like S and M does. so making a bigger investment that might not pay off is a bad idea.

>>379371979
That's what YOU want. That's not what everyone wants, as evidenced by the loads of people that guzzle Madden, Fifa, and CoD every year.

>>379371956
>What if Nintendo doesn't consider Switch to be a portable and thus WILL NOT make mainline Pokemon for it?
its a nice theory and all but becomes as retarded ad most people here when GF already said they are working on something for Switch

>>379371506
>Exclusives don't need sales, budget and investment means nothing!
How the fuck do you think we don't have franchises like Ape Escape and actual Crash sequels nowadays?
>>379371540
I know you're mentally 15 but Nintendo has a massively bigger attach rate and this is objective fact. Heck, by the fact you had to know it was a different console than the Wii was a big factor for its initial failure.
>>379371486
I think you just gave up and started ignoring Nintendo directly profits off their majority of exclusives.

All of these posts reek of Third World Europe who has no perspective on international profit.

>>379371969
im saying that if 7th gen would have been Wii vs PS3 alone PS3 would have been the shafted consoles.

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Who buys Nintendo for third-party games?
That's just nuts..

>>379372068
because those games suck? We got BB and Nioh.

>>379372068
Nintendo exclusives are what sell Nintendo consoles, but the casual gamers go for the shit that everyone else goes with. That's what they want. Not having it as an option is cutting them out of possible owners.

I can get Nintendo doing what they are doing, but if they are going to do it, they need to stop treating it like a toy, and more like a luxury, the way the iPhone is marketed.

>>379371979
>>379372037
3rd party is always used as shitpost material, but ultimately is

Nintendo can use 3rd party year rehash flavor of the month to soar, but they dont need it to survive.

S and M go a give a blowjob to every single code monkey in any studio cause 3rd party is their blood. their 1st IPs most undersale and are a niche withing their own markets.

>>379372093
Why? You make a game for the Wii, port it to the PS3, and unlock the resolution/framerate so that it appears better. Why would that have shafted the PS3? Because you couldn't waggle on it?

>>379372235
If what you are saying is true, they wouldn't have had to kill the WiiU early.

>>379372197
>but the casual gamers go for the shit that everyone else goes with
I don't even know what post you're even referring to at this point, and you're a idiot either way.
>if they are going to do it, they need to stop treating it like a toy, and more like a luxury, the way the iPhone is marketed.

The iPhone needs at least ten times the marketing budget to do that shit you fucking idiot.

>>379369142
FIFA, one of the highest selling games every single year, is irrelevant?

What a retard. Sure, you may not like it, but if you want a video game platform to succeed you should hope that it has some successful games.

>>379372256
>Because you couldn't waggle on it?
basically yes, control schemes would have been different and Wii would have catered more exclusives.

>Just got a Switch last week

With the Pokemom Direct and the general lack of care from third party developers and Nintendo, this E3 better blow my socks off.

>>379372360
might as well make the craigslist ad now

their presentation is only half an hour long, they don't have shit. they already announced it's focused on mario. odyssey and rabbids are gonna take up at least 15 mins.

Just out of curiosity, a hypothetical question for any sony nig nog that wants to answer:

What would it take for you people to admit the Switch is a success? Do you even have a metric in mind for it to succeed?

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>>379370571
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/index.html
917.85 million games / 101.63 million consoles = 9.03 games per console. You might legitimately be retarded.

>>379372304
>kill the WiiU early.
WiiU still managed to end up in the black anon.
was lack luster but it was not a money sink hole like y all think
and maybe you are to young to remember but up to 7th gen, all previous gen the average form gen to gen was 4-5 years, Wii/ PS360 were the odd horse, and this in-between gen with Pro and Scorpio are proof of it once again

>>379372321
The iPhone isn't marketed that heavy. I don't even see iPhone commercials that cell phone providers don't pay for. All I've seen is apple advertising new features, like the imessage stickers that happened after ios10 dropped.

>>379372360
you can always put it up online for a nice profit

then rebuy it when price go down or next hardware revision

only drone buy Nintendo consoles during its first year

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so now suddenly the most powerful multiplats matter?

well time to buy an xbox?

NO wait, exclusives matter?

time to buy a switch.


No wait, multiplats matter?
time to buy an xbox.

no wait exclusives matter?


time to buy a switch.

>Being Assmad that Nintendo does bend down and give blowjobs to every third party company that can use a keyboard
They're above the dregs and plebeians

>>379372434
Great third party support is all it needs to be a success. It has indie support. It needs major third party support not "dip-your-toe-in" support it currently has from EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, etc.

>>379372349
That's true, at least at first. But if the PS3 owners were the only ones purchasing CoD, for instance, then you can be sure that 3rd parties would take notice.

>>379372473
Doesnt*

>>379372419
Nintendo doesn't do shit at e3, they haven't for years. E3 is slowly dying, it's gone too far into advertisement and game journo circlejerk territory. All of the major players in the industry have been steadily pulling out of E3, they're tired of game journalists playing gatekeeper to their customers.

Nintendo only doing a 30 minute conference means literally nothing, they'll just do a bunch of directs and private events like they did last year.

>>379368751
Can't play FIFA with the lads in our tank with a PS4 though.

>>379372451
>The iPhone isn't marketed that heavy.
Jesus, I've seen some stupid shit. But this is up there.

>>379372440
I never said it was a money sink hole. But I'm not convinced that they made it to the black.

>>379372569
It's not. Show me an iPhone TV commercial for the iPhone 7 that has nothing to do with cell carriers.

>>379372517
No, I'm not asking what you think it needs to succeed, I'm asking what metric does it need to reach before people will admit it's a success and not just constantly shitpost about how much of a flop it is and how Nintendo is going bankrupt in a few hours.

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>>379370571
>all this post
Nintendo hardware for some black magic reason actually have better attachement Rate than their counter part consoles

WiiU had 7 games per console sold
Wii had 9 games per console sold

the
>Wii only sold cause elderly people buying 1 shovelware games
myth is perpetuate for ass blastered sonyfriends

>>379372603
Show me a Switch commercial that has nothing to do with particular video games.

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>>379372560
You really have to wonder whether E3 has such reach when you can do the same thing with a simultaneous release of information and cinematics online and prepared articles from major sites. E3 just kinda puts all of that in one place.

>>379372037
you don't buy a ninty console with considerably lower specs than its competitors for FIFA and CoD.

it's exactly why competition isn't as fierce anymore between Nintendo and Sony/Microsoft. they're bought for different kinds of games and ideally coexist

>>379372068
>I know you're mentally 15 but Nintendo has a massively bigger attach rate and this is objective fact. Heck, by the fact you had to know it was a different console than the Wii was a big factor for its initial failure

The hell are you raving about, you autistic 30 years old mario cosplayer? I was pointing out that a large portion of Nintendo sales comes from kids, just like a large portion of PS4 sales comes from dudebros. Those are fucking facts, no matter how insanely triggered and defensive you get. Now go to hug ad lick your amiibo, I'm sure that will calm your 8 years old soul.

>>379372518
actually CoD and other shit were Xb360, ealy PS3 owners were the hardcore loyalist 500$ American USD or cause even at 500$ PS3 was the cheaper BD player in the market, even vs other Sony branded BD players

>>379372560
This is the same made up lie that gets repeated every year. EA isn't at E3 this year but guess what, they are right next door having an event.

E3 has become an umbrella term, it's not just the official E3 event. E3 is now just an event week for gaming.

When's the last time Nintendo announced a big game not during E3 in one of the Directs, not counting the January presentation but I can't remember getting hyped for a Nintendo game that wasn't announced in their June event.

Not to mention they still set up elaborate booths and have one of their biggest this year. So you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

>>379372646
How about commercials from some competition, just as a proof-of-concept?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYLUBI10ILU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9_AlimsiQ

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>>379372572
>But I'm not convinced that they made it to the black.
Attachment rate, low expenses in development and higher turn over from sales is how Nintendo manage to print money

>>379372603
Are you referring to the cell carriers logo that show at the end of each ad? Or actual Sprint and Verzion commercials? Right now the one that's always on is adverting the iPhone 7 Plus Portrait mode and it's in a barbershop.

>>379372634
High selling, highly praised third party exclusives.

>>379372469
>Xbone
>good multiplats

The best multiplat is always the console it's designed on first and the other versions are ports.

All scorpio multiplats will still run like ass because they're ports of PS4 games. Same shit with PC.

>>379372802
I was talking about ones literally made for and paid for by carriers, NOT shit like the Balloon commercial that doesn't advertise the iPhone 7, but rather the iMessage shit that is available on every phone that has iOS 10.

>>379372903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcMSrKi8hZA

>>379371732

It's the one where you get QTEs at crucial moments of the match, but all of them end with you maiming the opponent and locking you to the Underground Football route

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>>379368751
>WiiU got gimped FIFA and other multiplats ported from PS3 before stopped getting 3rd party support.
>"W-who cares about them a-anyway, I'll only b-buy 1st party g-games after all."
>WiiU proceeded to get no 1st party support, leaving it dying without a game to its name.
>Meanwhile...
>"Dang, PS4's exclusive launch titles are pretty abysmal. But at least I can still play multiplats on it."
>PS4 proceeds to get tonnes of excellent multiplats and exclusives and become the most iconic console of Gen 8.
>Fast forward a bit...
>Switch gets gimped last gen-tier FIFA...

Hmmm, I wonder what will happen next...

>>379372856
so by your logic, first party exclusives are worthless and shouldn't even exist because only third party exclusives matter?

>>379372971
So what is it advertising that isn't available on other phones?

I'm not doubting you, I'm just not some super apple expert, and it seems like whatever "portrait mode" is, it would be available on their other models, just like the balloon commercial.

>>379373095
No, with that logic, you get the Wii U though. You need both.

>>379373128
Just learn to admit you were wrong faggot. You said they don't advertise the iPhone and I showed you an ad from less then a month ago made by Apple advertising the iPhone.

>>379370412
Physics has nothing to do with it. Games for switch need to be done in vulkan

>>379373152
Sony doesn't have both, yet they succeeded

why does /v/ always hold Nintendo to a much higher standard than anyone else?

>>379373210
No, I said they didn't market that heavily. Not that they didn't market at all. And I stand by that, as I watch 2 hours of live TV per day (from 11pm to midnight, and from 6am to 7am), and haven't seen an advertisement on Jimmy Kimmel, Comedy Central, or HLN's morning show.

>>379372439
That's still a nightmare for developers

>Eurotrash that lives off of FIFA and Singstar pretending the rest of the world cares about either of those titles

It's ok, there's always Sony to suck your cocks. They're even changing God of War 4 to be a "narrative focused" title instead of an action one because you clueless shits can't handle action games

>>379373258
>Sony doesn't have both, yet they succeeded

So you're gonna act retarded now?

>>379373363
what first party exclusives does Sony have, anon?

>>379373347
I don't play either, but I don't know why you would snub a customer base that will make yearly purchases, as well as pay for online subscriptions and DLC, AND be able to entice them to play on the cheapest console, just because you don't want to play it yourself.

It comes off as high and mighty as Nintendo did when they asked Devs what they wanted regarding the online experience of the Wii U, and when the devs said "something similar to the PS3 or Xbox 360," not a single person developing the Wii U had ever even bothered to check out the competition, resulting in blank stares.

>>379370487
You're a twat.

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>>379373493
k...knack!!!

>>379373493
Cute!

>>379373536
You couldn't even name the game that's shown in the picture?

>>379373565
Dark Souls is on other consoles, anon.

>>379373583
Good thing that's not the game being shown, then.

>>379373565
BB is not first party, Sony only funded it

>>379373583
Ironically, PS4 doesn't have DS1, but Xbone does.

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>>379373618
don't kid yourself :P

>>379370084
>and Nintendo is already walking the power handheld path.
The switch is literally an off-the-shelf nvidia product what on this fucking earth are you smoking

>>379373619
Is Xenoblade Chronicles a 1st Party exclusive for Nintendo? I'm curious what makes the cut.

>>379373678
Sony does not owns FROM
Nintendo OWNS Monolith

that is your cut

I'm always a late adopter. Ive only had my 3ds for a year and have a backlog of over 60 games just for the ds/3ds alone. The fact I'm aging on a system they are still making games for is rare. So I'm cool with Nintendo still making games for it. The earliest I will get a Switch if ever will be another year so no fucks given. Being late to the party saved me from buying a WiiU and I'm thankful for it. I never got how people foam at the mouths for new games because they have nothing to play. It's literally impossible. I have SNES games I still need to play. What am I doing right or wrong?

>>379373678
Xenoblade Chronicles is 2nd party, 2nd party games are extremely rare, that's why you never hear the term used, there are very specific conditions of the developer/publisher relationship required for a game to be 2nd party

another example of a 2nd party game would be pokemon

from what I've heard, there's been some dealings between Nintendo and MonolithSoft so now all future xeno games will technically be first party

>>379370352
Best selling game of 2016 on both other systems.

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>>379373632
>mfw Sony is probably kicking themselves for not having more faith in Demon's Souls back in the day and publishing it worldwide

>>379372343
Fifa never sells on nintendo.

It's sells on normie Chad boxes like ps4

>>379373786
So would it be fair to say that Sony owns Naughty Dog? Would their games be considered 1st party exclusive?

>>379373975
>So would it be fair to say that Sony owns Naughty Dog
dont they do??

>>379370281
I'm going to tell you a story. A story about the most powerful man at Nintendo, Shigeru Miyamoto. When he was presented with the new Zelda for the first time, his first response was to climb a tree. After several minutes, just standing there at the top of that tree, he climbed back down again. And he found another tree. And he climbed it, and he stood there, and he climbed back down.
He did this repeatedly. How "repeatedly", you ask? For several hours. For several hours, the big cheese did the same thing; over, and over, and over, and over. This is how he reacts to the products his company creates.
Japanese business culture holds that a powerful and senior member of the company is always right, no matter what decision he makes, no matter how old he is, no matter how completely out of touch he is from the modern world.

>>379373846
>Xenoblade Chronicles is 2nd party
Nintendo OWNS monolith

>sports games

Literally who cares

>>379368751
Didn't Reggie Fills Jam say to the people underwhelmed by the Switch unveiling to wait until E3?
This is supposed to be their big reveal, they said. They bought themselves some time, they said.
Face it, modern Nintendo is just buying themselves enough time to sneak in enough mobile games where they can say "we tried the console rout, the only way we find true success is mobile free to play games"

>>379374124
yeah, they do now, back then they didn't, they were just very close and had a lot of close contracts and business ties

>>379374145
They're not even going to be at E3 lol

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>>379374186
>yeah, they do now, back then they didn't, they were just very close and had a lot of close contracts and business ties
Xenobalde Chronicles release in 2010

Nintendo Bought em in 2007

>>379371979
>we want original third party IPs anyway, not the usual AAA garbo.
Let's say that original third party IP gets thought up. Then some guy says
>hey, we want this to be very successful
>and so we want many people to buy it
>and so there are more owners of the PS4 and XBO than the switch and it's really simple to port between the two
>and if we do that it means we have stronger hardware to work with and we won't have the difficulty of trying to get a game running on a tegra
and just like that the switch is cut out.

>>379372469
>NO wait, exclusives matter?
>time to buy a switch.
Ports from other systems don't count friend

>>379368751
>EA being cheap fucks
>this somehow equates to all third parties leaving ship

Really flummoxes the bolloxes

>>379374138
best selling game of 2016 on both other systems

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>>379371215
>>379371301
>>379371787
>>379371979
>>379372068
>>379373347
>>379373565
>>379374145
>>379374360
wew lad

It sure is reddit in here.

>>379368751

I will never understand why Nintendo insists on making Fischer Price toys. They need to step the fuck up and actually make a comparative console. The last few generations have been woefully underpowered compared to the competition.

>>379373494
because it helps me get my point across on the internet

>>379374113
What?

>>379374667
>being realistic is reddit?

Fucking hell, /v/

>>379368751
>/v/ is still this upset over the switches success
Kek

>>379373329
>n-no! neogaf told me the wii bombed!
9 is an extremely solid attach rate, that's higher than the latest financial data puts the PS2 and PS3.

>“The business model that we had wasn’t working anymore. We were starting to make sizeable losses, so we had to change. In the past, you could be successful by being a bit opportunistic. The Wii platform, ten years ago, was so successful and anything you launched on it was selling. Even with some lesser qualitative stuff, you were able to be successful. But that was all changing and you could only sell quality products. We had Mario & Sonic back in those days, and that game was selling so much that a number of other titles could afford to underperform. But when the sales of Mario & Sonic, and the Wii in general, began to slow down, it became very visible that we had to change.”
The Wii carried the industry while HD development was eating up studios. If it wasn't for the Wii being such a massive risk-free money boost a lot more developers would have died.