Why is Oblivion the best Elder Scrolls game? Can we expect

>>379365312
>Look, mom, I made a troll post! Ahahaha!

The atmosphere
No game has one like it

>>379365312
>Can we expect a better one?

Yes, it's called Morrowind.

>>379365452
This.

>>379365995
The game takes place in a swamp and on a mountain. Get out of here with that bullshit.

No they will never try to do anything good again, i think toddy is butthurt about being a meme

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>>379365452

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This was the best Battlefield game.

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>2022
it hurts gang

>>379366187
And oblivion takes place in a forest and a lava world repeated 33 times.

>>379365312
>Why is Oblivion the best Elder Scrolls game?
Because RPGs are all about the quests, and Oblivion had the best, most varied and most creative quests.

>>379367308
oblivion also has a swamp, Highland,and snowy region.

>>379367490
Name three quests in Oblivion better than anything in Morrowind.

>>379366608
Wrong, bad company 2 was the best one

>>379367563
Morrowind's main quest is fantastic, but most side quests are shit. Guild quests tend to just be "bring me 5 ----" bullshit.
Oblivion has overwhelmingly better guild and side quests.

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>>379367563
He didnt said anything about morrowind you flaming negro. stop making everything a contest in every fucking TES thread, both games are good on their own right.

>>379367613
You spelt battlefield 2 wrong

>>379366187
>The game takes place in a swamp and on a mountain.
KEK. Morrowind have lowlands, hilly grassy plains, mountains, swamps, highlands, ash desert and snowy region

>>379367563
>that quest with the missing painter where you have to enter the painting
>through a nightmare, darkly
>that quest where you're locked in a house full of guests at a party and have to pick them off one by one without anyone noticing
Explain why Morrowind doesn't have cool side-quests like these.

>>379365312
thats a funny post anon but u obv ment gothic.

>>379368018
Hahaha. It's nice to see some have kept their childhood imagination

>>379367563
The quest to cure vampirism.

Just kidding that fucking sucked.

I couldn't stand its level scaling. I only like shivering isles

>>379368164
Oblivion isn't a Gothic game.

>>379368279
exactly gothic is better and a real rpg.

>>379367563
there were some good and lots of boring quests but there were two things that standed out
thieves guild and dark brotherhood
oh god
both questlines were so good, ten times btter than other guilds questlines and far better than main quest.

>>379368279
best gothic game that can run on a modern machine with win10 and a 2560x1440 monitor?

>>379368356
I don't know why people praise Gothic so much. The series is really bland and generic.

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I saw a mudcrab the other day.

>>379368891
>black versions of the glass set

This and the ebony set make me hard.

>>379369150
Obsidian gear is pretty neat, the one in the pic is a super OP version from the elsweyr anequina mod. Normally the most powerful onehanded sword is the daedric longsword with 37 attack power but the dagger as 47 attack power and is has a very fast attack speed so it kills anything in seconds.

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>>379369295
Ye i figured it was a mod, there's no black glass set in vanilla sadly. Im gonna replay the game with MOO now because i've played vanilla plenty of times and wanna try something new. Not sure as to what skills im gonna focus on, was thinking a waifu character, light armor, fast with a sword and maybe sneaking but i dont know. Pic related is my best character in vanilla, not all quests complete but he is 40+ level and has the best shit around.

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>>379369586
I have 1700 hours into the game after modding it, I've always been a male though and the only non human race I've played as were Dunmer. I don't know how MOO affects leveling but I use OOO and leveling takes a lot longer than it does in vanilla.

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>>379369924
i sorta tried out OOO too but it seems too much for me, i know MOO is about the same yet pretty different. I might even go the extra mile and actually play with basic primary needs too. As for races, i always play Imperial, i did try other races in some short playthroughs but Imperial is my go-to race. But like i said, im having hard time picking what im gonna play as because every build is interesting in its own way. except sneaking, i dont like sneaking that much

>>379366608
BF3 campaign is so fucking retarded

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>>379365312
Let all be honest here. Pic related is the best Elder Scrolls.

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>>379367490
Oblivion had uniformly terrible quests. No branching, no meaningful choices, no conflicting quests, no mutually-exclusive questlines, the quests that offer genuine multiple solutions can be counted on two hands. Even Fallout 3 had better quests.
You like the writing and locales? Good for you, dumbshit, but that does not make for good RPG questlines. May as well praise GTA's 'questlines' while you're at it.

>>379368537
you mean every tes game right anon?

with the bland and boring map the bland and boring characters and the shallow gameplay.

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>>379371229

>>379365312
I just installed this; http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47591/?
It's so fucking good, I love it. Too bad my GPU died recently and I won't be able to run it very well until I get a new one. I'm stuck on some old as AMD shit I used before my 780ti.

>>379371363
Well, he isn't wrong. You may like the dark brotherhood in the same way you like a GTA mission, but as an RPG questline, it's not really very good.

>>379370359
I like using the basic primary needs mod, it makes the game feel more immersive that you need to eat, sleep, and drink and makes the food more useful than just simple ingredients for alchemy. My favorite race to play as is Nord even though I like to do magic builds. Maybe its because I started with Morrowind and Nords were pretty beast with 100% frost immunity anf 50% shock immunity, also they were the best looking humans to play as in Morrowind, all the other human races were ugly as fuck. Sneaking skill is useless when you have illusion and can go invisible or use 100% chameleon.

>>379371363
Oblivion quests are entertaining in a park attraction way, Morrowind quests are deep and meaningful.

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>>379365452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQsC5IEXDag

>when this starts playing while you're wandering around

>>379368210
lmao I was a vampire for like 90% of my playthrough

>>379371605
I pick Imperial because not only i like them as a race but they are sort of like an all-around race that has no weakness and can do pretty much anything. Sure, frost or poison immunity or racial buffs are nice but it suits me to play as the average folk.

>>379371531
>>379371651
I've played morrowind quite a bit and i can say that its quests are pretty straight forward in the fashion of "go there, do that" im not saying its boring, im saying its easy to see through most of the time. In Oblivion some quests are like that too yes but you get things like the painted world, or the inn in the ship or the dreamworld one or hey the one you're looking for that stolen painting. These are pretty unique on their own and also tell small stories about the characters and such, they arent as bland as you might think. Personally in my very first playthrough of Oblivion i was really immersed and thought any action had a reaction and it did, if i'd fuck up a heist in the thieves guild i'd be in trouble, if i'd failed to protect someone thats it.

>>379371651
>Morrowind quests
>Deep and meaningful

>Hey go kill x for me
>Hey go escort x for me
>Hey go get this item for me in a cave full of monsters/bandits
>Hey go steal this item from x for me and try not to get caught :)

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>>379372079
I played Morrowind over decade ago. Are most quest really that fetchy? What about fantastic dwemer dissapearence research, surely it can't be one good quest? I remember that quest do not have marquers and that can turn a simple quest meaningful and deep - because you are learning directions, culture and geography of a world you are in. Not just following arrows.
It would be ideal to have some combined system with rich descriptions, lore and branching, non-linear research from the player, and different meaningful outcomes.

>>379365312
Fuck off you nu-male shitcunt. Best one was Arena.

>>379367524
Merrowind also has a snow area, a near desert, a fucked up fungus world, sea cliff area, ancient city, city on water, mountain forts, plantations, fields, and lava canyona.

Tbh the best part of oblivion was stepping inside the painting.

>>379372485
Big whoop Morrowind has you go exploring the first time you do a quest and have to use your journal. You can just use a mod to remove quest markers if that's all you're butthurt about.

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>>379365452
You're pretty good.

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>>379365452
SOMEONE GETS IT


>>379365312
no for the same reason we won't get kotor 3. Everything is moving to online genres.

>>379369924
POst modlist plox.

Also ANYONE familiar with Dynamic music system? I'd KILL for a pre-set ini. It's the best music system out there.

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45998/?

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>>379372485
You might not believe me, but quest markers in oblivion arent really that immersion breaking, if you take a better look, most NPC in oblivion actually say "here, i'll mark it down or your map" when there's a quest and they want you to go to a specific place, so it makes sense to have a quest marker, also they just give you the location, you still have to walk your way there because most of the time you can directly fast travel to where you have to be, unless of course you've been there before but what most people forget is that fast traveling is optional, you can always go full on walking sim, its up to you. Plus the general speed of your character makes walking less of a pain so its nice to walk to places enjoy the scenery, just like in morrowind.

>>379365312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_x-x0gawck

>>379368018
In your imagination. Without your nostalgia you'd realise MW was essentially a dark grey barren slightly hilly plain and that's pretty much it.

>>379368210
It was if you were on PS3 and the glitch wouldn't allow you to be cured.

>>379368373
You know what's funny?
The guy who wrote and designed the dark brotherhood in oblivion is the main writer and co designer on fallout 3, skyrim and fallout 4
He's ex-Looking Glass as well

What the fuck happened?

>>379372675
Butthurt? You are actually retarded, quest markers removal will not make for the lackluster lore, non existing directions and descriptions. While having neat ideas for quests Oblivion just fails in delivering with it wooden acting and potatofaces and there is not enough substance to compensate. You are not invested and immersed - looks like boring attraction park, as i said. It's a shame because game has great feeling of a classical medieval rpg, but falls short.

>>379365452

Comfiest game ever.

>>379371271
>Literally describes gothic again.

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>>379369924
>1700 hours
>always been a male
>and the only non human race I've played as were Dunmer
Dude. Get help.

>>379372813
You're full of shit, mate, the quest markers aren't just for the dungeon locations like that explanation would actually excuse, quest markers will lead you straight to your objective even deep inside completely unexplored dungeons.

Oblivion is a shitty version of Morrowind, fast travel ruins immersion
>B-but then don't fast travel
The game lacks options outside of fast travel to get around at a decent pace, unlike morrowind which has a plethora of options which you can and should mix and match to get around

The only people who will claim Oblivion is good is underage faggots that never played morrowind when it released.

>>379373040
I like to self insert, not make a waifu to fap to.

Only people who like oblivion are those whose oblivion was their first game

It is objectively worse than skyrim and much worse than morrowind

Any alternatives to Better Music System? I want to add different music for every city and major location, but BMS is buggy

>>379373076
>no options
Ever heard of horses and magic? Of course not, because you're too busy shitting on a game because hey thats what we do here. If you hate this game so much, stop posting in its threads.

>>379365312
>Why is Oblivion the best Elder Scrolls game?
>Can we expect a better one?

I find Oblivion less exciting and a little more bland but it does have a ton of things that are better than Skyrim, which is deeply flawed.

>Magic is better in every single way
>Armour and weapons are better looking
>The setting is just aesthetically more pleasing
>More variety in enemies
>Slightly better music
>Towns are way better
>No dual wielding or casting
>More quests that are about solving a mystery or following people
>Better voice actors for main quest characters

>>379373159
>That feel when you're not a homosexual narcissist
It's a good feeling.

>>379373351
>Horses
ONE, ONE option that makes travel marginally faster, wew lad, what a counter argument!
>Oblivion fags are literally this retarded
>Magic
Woah, another option that is completely gutted compared to Morrowind to less than a fraction of it's previous utility

Really now, why the fuck would you even bother trying to refute something when THIS is all you're capable of? It's just pathetic.

>>379372813
When Oblivion was announced i was so hyped you wouldn't believe. I really really loved the aesthetics and feel of the game. The screenshots looked great, battle system description was revolutionary for an open world rpg, new AI just blew my mind. And then i played it - it was all smoke and mirrors, man. Everything was ugly, style was distasteful, controls were junky, combat was trash, AI was only OK. Sure, music was fantastic, but everything else was a fucking joke. The world felt more dead and empty then Morrowind - style over substance, but when style a shit it is a big fucking problem. I prefer a solid game for it's time - like Morrowind, where game limitations can be compensated with imagination. I can't stand when game tricks you and force you to use imagination to even tolerate it.

>>379373159
Yeah, self insert and all is fine but...1700 and an experience of literally the same old shit. Have you at least done any challenges, like speed running, fists only or nude runs?

>>379373351
>If you hate this game so much, stop posting in its threads.
Ask me how I know you're new

>>379373453
Skooma. Alchemy. Athletics, Steed star sign, clothes with buffs and teleport portal thingies if you can find them.
And if you include mods you also have caravans, ships, boats, zeppelins, flying machines, spells, unicorns, tigers, elephants and your mom.

>>379373527
I'd usually have new mods to play with when I did a new character, some mod quests also had different paths to take so there's that too. By the way I haven't used a single sex mod at all.

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>raining outside with a cup of coffee
>hear the sound of the wind and rain on the window
>playing oblivion with the wings of the kynareth theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo3e9a7QKqM

This game is maximum comfy.

>>379373515
I can understand why it would have been a letdown for you, but objectively, its a good game. There's a difference between "i didnt like it" and "the game is bad" because in this case, its not a bad game.

>>379373849
Post modlist. I'm intrigued.

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>>379371730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7NqyQCSz-Y
oblivion had an amazing soundtrack

>>379373718
>Skooma, Alchemy
Potions are the same shit, anon, still gutted compared to Morrowind to the point where I don't even need to consider them
>No leapfrog
>No levitate
>Just some minor fortify athletics shit
>No mark or recall potions
Dumb as shit, why even bother?

>Athletics
Why even bring this up? Are you retarded? Your alternative to fast travel is.... Athletics? Really? Are you fucking having a laugh here mate?

>Steed star sign
Aka fortify speed, woah, we can just be rid of fast travel all together lads, because thanks to the steed sign we can run marginally faster! You. Fucking. Moron.

You literally just listed the same thing over and over with a slightly different application; Fortify Athletics/Speed

Not only are you a fucking idiot, you're apparently either completely retarded or willfully dishonest.

>>379374012
>objectively, its a good game
lmao
mate, for its budget level, oblivion is literally one of the worst games of all time
not even memeing here, it's shitty on every conceivable measure

>>379371363
he's right
sorry

>>379374173
And, in case we could somehow forget
>Horse armor

>>379374012
It is mediocre game and bad ES game. A lot of potential but terrible execution on all fronts - except music. If you are into open world games then it turns form mediocre to good. I am extremely into first person open world games and that's why i am harsh to them - they are ruining my dream for twenty years.

We can't expect a better one anytime soon.
Already confirmed that a new elder scrolls is years away.
They are working on new IPs.

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>>379374086
What you said was
>The game lacks options outside of fast travel to get around at a decent pace
Decent pace? Dude just like, get speed. Oh, and horses have different travel speeds. Are there horses in Morrowind? No. It seems to me like it's some sort of different game with different options.
>B-but it's not Morrowing!!
Well go play Morrowind you asshat.
also
>Conveniently ignoring the portals and what mods can do
>Thinking ANY of the /TES/ games are actually worth playing without mods.
No.

>>379374086
btfo

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Can we just stop for a moment and consider the best Elder Scrolls game?

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>>379374759
This is now a Daggerfall webum thread

>>379374012
I can forgive Gothic 3 - it is nowhere that ambitious, but Oblivion is pure blueballs. Morrowind is an honest milf whore that is lovable and knows all your quirks, she is not superhot, but has a character and reminds you about mommy. Gothic 3 is vapid bitch, but she is younger, prettier and you can use and abuse her without string attached. And Oblivion is a fucking botched silicone crackurwa masked with a ton of makeup that will force you to do boring and tedius shit for her, like clothing gates and shit, and then it's fucking nothing - it was a trap and you are in a painting and painting is in actual horror dream and you must kill her to please god of madness and you had potato face all along.

>>379374981
>Morrowind is an honest milf whore that is lovable and knows all your quirks, she is not superhot, but has a character and reminds you about mommy.
>Reminds you about Mommy.
Anon, we need to talk...

>>379374493
>Horses and fortify athletics is "a decent pace"
No, fuck off, you incredulous imbecile.

Horses are not viable in most of the terrain, you're stuck to roads meaning they're usually slower than just walking until you get something like the DB horse, still not an alternative to fast travel like Silt Striders, mage guild, boats or just actual magical travel abilities.

>B-but mods!!
Really? You respond to the claim that the game is fucked in terms of immersion due to fast travel and there being no alternative is "just mod the game, have some third party program fix it" I mean at this point I'm not even going to ask, you're clearly fucking retarded, holy shit.
>B-but portals
No.

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>>379375063
I am all ears

>>379373992
my negro

>>379374953
thats fucking cool

>>379374759
How do I get into Daggerfall? What skills and spells should I pick and which should I avoid?

>>379365312
Beautiful landscapes compared to the dreariness of morrowind and skyrim

>>379375149
>incredulous imbecile.
I don't think you should use words whose meaning you don't know.
Horses are not viable in most of the terrain? Have you even played the game? you can climb mountains with horses. They're only bad crossing rivers because they can't run underwater. Who would have thunk it!? Not you, apparently. Find a bridge and stop being a cunt.
>B-but mods!!
Morrowind is a bad game in terms of gameplay. Take your nostalgia goggles off.
I play and replay old gems all the time and enjoy the shit out of them. I played Morrowind before Oblivion, in fact. But it sucked. Exploration was fun, lore was nice and the world was great, but that was about it.
It was a bland game with original designs.
Perhaps I liked Oblivion because I expected another Morrowind and instead I got a decent game.
Morrowind's gameplay is horrible. It's old but that is no excuse.

>>379365452

This. It's so fucking comfy and the world is so bright and colourful.

Shiveirng Isles was a great DLC also

>>379365452
the moment when you pull out of the sewer, you can almost literally feel the cold breeze against you, the feel of being lost, with nothing to lose, a nobody, the feel of being free from prison.