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Let's have a WoW/Legion thread. What spec are you playing?

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Let's have a WoW/Legion thread.

What spec are you playing?
Whatcha grindin?
You hype for 7.2.5?
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I want a new spec to try out.

What's still fun to play and doesn't do awful DPS?
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>still don't have flying
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Why aren't you defending against the invasion, anon?
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>>379357106
>>379357037
>>379356982
>>379356967
>IPs
>1
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>retail
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>>379357279
>private servers
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>>379356982
>still fun
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>>379357498
There's.. there's gotta be something right?
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>>379357498
Listen, man, I'm just trying to get some enjoyment out of a game I keep constantly burning out on.
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>>379356967
>WoW/Legion thread.
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Well this is off to a terrible start
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>>379357312
>free rewards for minimal effort: the game
>>379357645
>>379357559
Stop playing WoW then, the game's been shit for the better part of a decade.
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>>379356967
>Let's have a WoW/Legion thread.
Like the one on vg?
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>>379357802
>anime shitposter
Surprising
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>>379357802
>better part of a decade

Its only been out for 3 years
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>>379357559
Legion will be a case study for all the suckers in Game Design School.

The topic will be: "How to fuck up a legendary franchise in a single year"
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>>379358179
That was Warlords of Draenor.
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>>379357802
Then what should I play?
>inb4 ff14
Why would I want to play a WORSE game? I'd rather play RIFT at this point.
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WHY DID THEY RUIN HUNTERS

WHY DID THEY TAKE AWAY MY TRUE SURVIVAL

WHY DOES BM HAVE LIKE 2 BUTTONS TO PRESS

WHY BLIZZ WHY
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>>379357891
Great argument
>>379357894
I'm sure there's an ebin joke behind this post but it flew over my head
>>379358192
WoD didn't have:
>artifact weapons
>the horrendous legendary items
>titanforging
>ability pruning to surpass all pruning
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>>379358419
>artifact weapons
How is this even a negative anymore? It's an extra ability and extra talent tree. It's easy to catch up on it as well now.
>the horrendous legendary items
Why is more gear bad? Different legendaries have different effects that can change the gameplay of a spec.
>titanforging
The "titanforging" has been here since Panda.
>ability pruning to surpass all pruning
I'll agree on this one. Some got pruned way too much.
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>>379358586
>How is this even a negative anymore?
Weapons are the most important items in any RPG, taking them out of the game and giving everyone the same one through the whole expansion and on top of that making every PC the ultimate special snowflake is retarded.
>Why is more gear bad?
Legendary items are supposed to be *legendary*, and on top of that having every other new item in the game be legendary takes any sort of satisfaction out of obtaining a legendary item. Having them drop from anything you do in the game is also terrible design for an MMO and is just another "free rewards" modern WoW has so much of.
>The "titanforging" has been here since Panda.
It hasn't. You weren't able to get Mythic level items from lower difficulties in Pandaland or WoD. If you think being able to get better items from LFR than from Mythic because "just get luckier lol" you probably have some sort of serious brain damage.
>>379358285
Play something that isn't an MMORPG.
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>>379359057
>Weapons are the most important items in any RPG, taking them out of the game and giving everyone the same one through the whole expansion and on top of that making every PC the ultimate special snowflake is retarded.
You can modify that weapon with traits that offer extra bonuses, as well as trinkets and legendary items that also include different effects.
Legendary items are supposed to be *legendary*, and on top of that having every other new item in the game be legendary takes any sort of satisfaction out of obtaining a legendary item. Having them drop from anything you do in the game is also terrible design for an MMO and is just another "free rewards" modern WoW has so much of.
With Wrath and its "welfare epix" do you really expect legendary items to be legendary? I'd so much take this than everyone grinding for/using the same "legendary" cape or ring.
It hasn't.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7709282055#1
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>>379359263
>I'd rather get powerful items completely at random from doing any braindead easy casual content in the game than actually earn it by killing the hardest boss in the game
>https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7709282055#1
This has nothing to do with titanforging. Thunder/warforging was a set 6 ilvls. Titanforging is a random ilvl upgrade up to 15 higher than mythic Gul'dan gear for any item you get in the game whether it be from killing a bear in Highmountain or killing one of the hardest bosses in the game. Fucking Blizzdrones don't even understand why getting rewarded for doing nothing and having gear be received at random is shit.
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>>379359568
RNG
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>What spec are you playing?
Havoc because gotta go fast
>Whatcha grindin?
AP and legos just like everyone else
>You hype for 7.2.5
Kind of. Looking forward to Black Temple timewalking more than anything else.
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I've been playing Frost DK, but I enjoy all three specs. A shame that blood is shit, though, because it's actually fun to play.

The mount class quest was fucking dope. Lich King being a complete dickhead and dropping foreshadowing left and right. You killed all of the red dragons in the sanctum, right?
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>>379360057
I like my Frost DK, but only because I was playing machine gun- which is now apparently obsolete.

Should I try Unholy with its upcoming buffs? Or is there a similar GOTTAGOFAST melee spec out there I can try?

I need SPEED and PROCS
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>>379360132
Try enhancement shaman, its pretty much exactly what you described.
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>>379360036
I want to try DH, but that stupid jumping around the field to do damage seems annoying.
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>>379356967
When the fuck are they going to be smart like Jagex was and make an oldschool server?

Private servers are fine but dont get the player base an official version would get
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>>379360301
>low dps
>low survivability
>boulderfist
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I hate everything they've done gameplay wise in these last two expansions. Fuck the artifact weapon and fuck "legendaries."
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>>379360367
I didn't say it was good.
It is fast and proccy though.
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>>379360314
You get used to it.
Plus melting entire mobs with eye beam is just unnf.
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Surv Hunter is fun, low levels are a bit slow though since you can't just point and push a button to draw enemies to you
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>>379360314

Momentum isn't really a thing anymore. It plays more like a normal melee class now.
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>>379360629
Oh yeah?

Shit, I might try it out then.
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Have they unfucked Havoc yet?
No?

Right, fuck off then.
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>>379360629
Oh they nerfed out any hint of originality to the new class? how unsurprising
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>>379360314
>>379360629
I genuinely wish death to nemesis faggots.

Momentum was the best thing to happen to the game since Wrath. Fuck you BRs with shit internet for ruining that for me.
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>>379360812
It was kind of an obnoxious playstyle but I agree that thry should've kept it viable for the sake of more playstyle variety.
Fuck Demon Blades though.
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I want to try tanking with my Prot pally but I'm terrified of actually starting
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>>379360962
>Fuck Demon Blades though.

Jesus fuck you and people like you. 7.1 Momo Havoc was sublimely fun. 7.1.5 and beyond is literally retarded whack a mole
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>>379361049
it's the most fun to play tank spec, and it's actually even more fun than some melee dps specs, go figure
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Fuck momentum build.

>every raid boss is filled with insta kill garbage on the floor
>decent chance to DC when you Fel Rush
>chance that you Fel Rush further than intended
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>>379361159
>Being this fucking bad at an already easy clas
>Needing it to be turned into literal no-meme whack a mole
We can't dare have fun in world of warcraft, can we?
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>>379361117
Demon Blades is still the cookie cutter talent to pick even now with momentum being shit.
Standing around just auto attacking is definitely not fun.
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>>379361117

How can anyone defend Demon Blades? It's fucking awful.
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>>379361117
Lucky.

I remember when my spec had what-a-mole.

I miss those days.
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>>379361294
>world_quests_are_my_endgame.txt
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>>379361384
I was in the top 10% of all demon hunters in the world
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Destro Warlock reporting in, Affliction bores me to tears and have not tried demo this x pack.

7.2.5 has my destro boner at 100%
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I just got the hunter chicken-wolf mount. The small scenario you do to get it is pretty nice.
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>>379361323
>>379361327
Ok it's probably retarded now. But it was absolutely required for FASTAN with 7.0-7.1 momentum. And it was a shit ton of fun in that build. Spamming a builder would have fucking sucked with momentum.
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>>379361470
What's the deal with 7.2.5 destro?

Should I finally level my lock?
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Frost DK is fucking awesome. I'm glad it's not getting nerfed next patch.

Unholy feels weird. Runic power doesn't do shit but sit there and wait for you run out of stuff to do so you just spam DC. They need to make it worth spending, because right now it just gets wasted.
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>>379361443
And top 1% faggots, it seems
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OFFICIAL /v/ DPS FUN FACTOR RANKING

GOD TIER
>Unholy, SV, Frost(Mage), Shadow, Enh, Destro, Fury
HIGH TIER
>Frost(DK), Fire, WW, Ass, Sub, Ele(Lightning Rod)
MID TIER
>Havoc, Balance, MM, Arcane, Ret, Outmeme
LOW TIER
>Aff, Demo
SHIT TIER
>BM, Arms
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>>379361671
gottem
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>>379361704
>playing Legion Ret
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>>379361704
>unholy above frost
yeah nah
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>>379358337
>WHY DID THEY RUIN HUNTERS

Because it's "unfair" to have a class that can cast and move, and shooting is basically the same thing.

So if all the other classes can't be fun, neither can Hunter.
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>>379361704
>Ele(Lightning Rod)

It's amazing to me Blizzard are spending time nerfing Earthquake heavily to make Earth Shock LOOK less awful in comparison.
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>>379357037
>>379357037

Look man its really simple, either get a couple aderall or a eight ball of coke and you can grind it out in two days.
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>>379361608
I heard some cool suggestions for UH runic power, like rolling the continuation mechanic from Breath of Sindy into DnD/Defile, allowing those to drain RP to stay up longer.
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>>379361704
>Frost Mage viable in PvE
It's been a long time coming, but it was so worth the wait.
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>>379361761
It's definitely more fun, even though I am playing frost right now. Especially when you macro the Arthas "APOCALYPSE" line to play with your Apocalypse ability.
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>>379361671
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>>379361843
>9/11 chapters of Suramar
>15000/21000 into revered
>only 1 quest in log
>earn exalted
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>>379361704
>feral not listed
its ok blizzard forgets we are a thing too
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Pets bros where we at
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>>379362012
Shit, I knew I was missing something even though I triplechecked. Low tier.
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>>379362012
So do you still use a keyboard or have you just replaced it with a full piano at this point?
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>>379361986
You only need to hit 20000/21000 to be able to pick up the last quest chain if it makes you feel any better
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>>379362015
> tfw you want the vanilla world and quests so you can experience the lost chapter of warcraft history
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>>379362012
>gets the coolest artifact appearances by far
>stuck with the shittiest anti-fun gameplay of all melee specs
I feel bad for you guys.
I'm glad I abandoned the feral ship back during WoD.
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>>379362012

I have legitimately seen only 2 feral druids this entire expac. And only slightly more Boomkin.

At least bears don't suck, right?
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blue troll here
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>>379361704
Is nu-survival really that good?
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>>379362213
>mark of ursol removed
>ironfur gutted
>all aoe dmg gutted

BEAR EXTINCTION BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
FUCKING FURRIES TAKING MY TANK SPOTS
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>playing WoW when the Shivering Isles of MMO expansions just came out
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>>379362291
No not really.
Its easily outshined by most of the other melee specs.
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>>379362291
Yes, it kind of plays like a diablo 2 assassin with pets. Traps, bleeds, poisons, cobras. Best of all - it's (arguably) the most complex spec in the game so you will never fall asleep because it's engagin
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>>379362303
Best day of Legion.

Eat shit bearfucks.
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>>379362443
Throwing explosive traps and grenades at melee distance was a genuinely retarded design choice though.
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>>379362307
Morrowind was shit back then and its still shit now.

Fuck off Dunmer.
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>>379362307
#SponsoredContent
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>>379362443
But is it.. fun
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>>379362697
Do you like thinking? Your skill being rewarded? Then it's very fun
Do you just want to fuck shit up and get huge numbers with 2 buttons? Then no
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>>379356967
>arms warrior
>stopped playing 3 months ago after only getting shit legendaries and no good trinkets although i played literally everyday since legion release
>fuck 7.2.5, never playing this shit again
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>>379362873
Just go Fury.

It's so much more fun,
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>>379362873
Stop playing arms
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>>379362443
>plays like a diablo 2 assassin
>most complex spec in the game
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alright /v/, I've been on the fence for a while now

should I get back into this? I always come back to the game for like 9 months every expac, I've been a bleeding edge raid progression main tank since wrath, but in WoD I just got bored and quit the game early before even bothering with raids

I have a level 100 of almost every class, favorites are monk and warrior

should I? Is it still fun?
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>>379362873
>ARMS
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>>379362987
Just do it.
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>>379362987
It's fun if you take it with moderation. Don't fall for the AP grind meme, and don't do mythic+ until you pass out. It's as simple as that - the content is fun, the xpac is fun, but if you try to be cutting edge, you will drop it really fast.
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>>379362697
Its really not. Its an unfinished clusterfuck of a spec that should've been made a fourth spec for hunters instead of replacing ranged survival outright.
There is a reason nobody plays it.
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>>379362760
Define thinking.
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>>379363076
What's this shit I hear about legendaries? Like everyone just gets a free one now from the get go? Also how are demon hunters? What kind of specs do they have, are they just magic rogues? Did they expand upon the garrison thing or is that all just WoD content?
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>>379363273
There are numerous legendaries that have equip effects that can buff or change some mechanics of a spec. Each spec has a few to pick from, and they all have a chance of dropping from pretty much anywhere.
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>Ctrl+F Monk
>0 Results

I got my Mage Tower appearance for my Main and Offspec, although the WW one was piss easy compared to Brew.
Kinda wanna do the Mistweaver one too just to say I did it before Tomb came out but I don't really play the spec enough to care about the skin
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>>379360778
What do you mean by "unfuck"? Because in terms of dps output it's top tier
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>>379363345
All the fotm shitters that rolled monk at Legion's launch thankfully fucked off.
I'm glad its gone back to being the comfy niche class.
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Anyone here actually use bodyguards?

Are they just supposed to help you while leveling, or are they useful once you're somewhat geared?
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>>379363226
Decision making.
You have to keep up an attack power buff every 10 sec. You have several abilities that do a lot of dmg and have a 30s-1min cd and have to prioritize in the moment.You have to decide if you will keep doing mongoose stacks or you can wait a bit or interrupt it.

>>379363273
Legendaries are RNG loot. You can't target them. A lot of them are just shit filler like giving you a shield or movement speed while others change your entire rotation and give you double digit dps increase... so you're shit out of luck if you're playing a class that is very dependent on a legendary and don't get that one; you will not be invited to mythic raids, unless you grind, grind, grind until you find that specific lego. This is the worst thing about the expansion
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>>379362291
He's shitting you. It doesn't fill any niche not already better filled by other DPS specs and ironically, it has far less "survivability" than other melee specs.

>>379362443
It's not complex, rather, it's poorly designed.
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>>379363273
Legendaries are basically handed out based on activity that you do, so eventually you'll get one so long as you play. Good luck getting the one that bandaids the terrible job done on the ability pruning and not some stat stick though.
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>>379363526
Probably depends on the class.
Snek waifu for DHs is really useful with the absorb shields and haste buff she casts on you periodically, for example.
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>>379363345
nigga you didn't search for "monk" I said in >>379362987 monk is my favorite class

I was the top raid progression brewmaster in my server group during early mop, I had a few top dps parses for some of the aoe fights in heroic
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What's the best horde race/class for a /pol/tard who derails threads on /v/
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>>379363709
Probably Orc Warrior for the Garrosh did nothing wrong memes
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>>379363526
The orc bodyguard for Shamans boosts ghost wolf to 120% speed so he's incredibly useful before you got flying.
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>>379363754
Undead DK for the Lich King/Sylvanas love.
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>>379363526
THERE'S A FROST MAGE BODYGUARD THAT ICE NOVAS MOBS FOR YOU

HOW TIGHT IS THAT SHIT YO
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>>379363345
Mage Tower skin looks shit I think,
Hidden one still the best
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>>379363953
Did this animation make it into the game?
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>>379362015
I fucking HATE battlepets, I adored the original pet system. Every race had a pet, the occasional dungeon or faction had a pet, rare drops or quests gave you a pet but never, NEVER, did I ask for Pokemon. The sheer amount of pets now is overwhelming and the pet battles are worthless.
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>>379364162
>pet battle world quests
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>>379364160
yes
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>>379364276
So apparently Brewmasters hate the Legion changes.

What happened?
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Is warrior still broken and useless?
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>>379364334
Fury is fun and does great DPS, so no.
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>>379364360
How's it looking with the ToS gear and DoS nerf though?
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>>379358419
>ability pruning to surpass all pruning

if anything that began at WoD you retarded nigger
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>>379364360
What about protection? Still lowest of the barrel?
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>>379364325
No Brewmaster main hates it. But when people who played easy tank classes like Paladin or Warrior try out Monk they get fucking destroyed because it's way more complex then every other Tank Class.

Thats the only reason people hate Brewmaster, It's not a faceroll like every other Tank Class
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>I think Legion was a damn good expansion
>played it at release for a while
>haven't played in nine months

I think I might actually be cured now. Despite it being a great expansion I've realized it just can't be made to feel fresh anymore.

Need a WoW 2. Or World of Diablo. Something.
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Waiting for my 14 sub to run out, then it's Legion time.
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>>379364450
They streamlined the spec. Now you just have to spam ignore pain to gain a big fat bubble and become almost unkillable.
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>>379364609
But they nerfed that into the ground and made the GCD a pain in the ass to build rage with.
What changed?
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>>379364162
Fuck you battle pets are great
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>>379362904
>>379362951
>want to play a warrior using 2handed weapon
>HURR JUST PLAY DUALWEILD XDDD

get fucked guys, this is not why i play mmorpgs
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>>379361704
>nu-enh
>no totems
>only thing you do is spam SS and boulderfist
>still do less than mediocre single target damage, despite being only good at single target due to the removal of Fire Nova and Liquid Magma

>SV
>anything but a reddit Meme spec

>Fury
>2 buttons

>Destro
>lol soul shards, also we gutted your whole class and slapped all your abilities back on demon hunter or as a talent!!!!

>shadow
>playable without StM

>ele WW and havoc
>not the only dps specs in legion that dont make you wanna blow your fucking brains out playing them

you have shit taste and are probably awful at the game
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>>379363953
Mage Tower looks fine, you just gotta work your transmog around it a bit more.

>>379364325
I didn't like the changes at first but it grew on me over time. People are starting to catch on to how good they are though, because I'm seeing way more Brewmasters in the class hall these days.
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>>379364564
>I think I might actually be cured now

everyone said this every time an expac hits a low point, just admit to yourself that you will come back at the beginning of each expac or big content update unless they pulled something that absolutely repulsed the shit out of you.
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>>379356967
Going back to Arms for ToS
Not really grinding anything, farming mythic gul'dan doe
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>>379365104
Not that guy, but I only came back for a month in WoD, and only recently had slight interest in Legion. If I didn't have other shit to play I might bite, but the cure can actually happen
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>>379364970
>fury
>battle cry to proc enrage
>bloodthirst
>raging blow
>artifact ability
>whirlwind when proc'd
>execute
>filler ability
It's not exactly complex, but it's not 2 buttons either.
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>>379364970
>Destro
>lol soul shards, also we gutted your whole class and slapped all your abilities back on demon hunter or as a talent!!!!
You mean Demo? Demo before Legion was built around metamorphosis. Now you summon more and more demons and empower them while they're up.
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>>379364706
I'm assuming you haven't seen the 7.1.5 changes?

>Focused Rage has been removed.
>Ultimatum (talent) has been removed, and replaced with Devastator Icon Devastator, a talent that can significantly alter gameplay.
>Many talents have been rebalanced. Most notably Heavy Repercussions has received a small nerf.
>Revenge has been changed significantly, now costing Rage to use (instead of generating it).
>The remaining cooldown of Shield Slam Icon Shield Slam now has a 30% chance to be reset not just by Devastate, but also by Revenge Icon Revenge, Thunder Clap Icon Thunder Clap, and your auto attacks (the last case only
if using the new Devastator talent.
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>>379365274
it's both
old demo was one of my favorite specs in the game, and i'll never forgive them for ruining it.
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>>379365320
So nothing has changed, 7.1.5 was the patch that made me quit since they completely botched protection with that.
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I miss gladiator stance warrior
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>>379365796
i miss wod because it's better than legion
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>>379365862
I would agree that the class design and group content of WoD was objectively better, though I don't miss spending 80% of my playtime in the garrison all the way up until tameme jungle.
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I have 4 wow tokens and 800k but still can't be arsed to even check out tomb because Legion was that much of a blunder. I raid with my guild and then quit after 2 months every expansion since Cata because you realize outside of raids the game is such a fucking slog
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>>379365862
haha it's funny because it's not true
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>>379366589
Tomb isn't out yet.
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>title for mythic tos is "the tomb raider"
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>>379366590
>memegif
you have shit taste don't talk
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>>379361808
The problem is earth shock is a install cast that can critical for 3 mil easy I think they should balance to do less damage but always critical hit when you use max maelstrom. That way it is a guarenteed powerful finisher and encourages you to actually gain max maelstrom.
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How does soloability work as a caster?
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>>379367749
Depends on the class. Warlocks(themselves) and Disc Priests can outright tank minor elite rares due to their shields and self-healing
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>>379362873
>Unironically played Arms
You deserved everything that happened to you
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>>379356967
Stop making these threads. We have a general on vg filled with casuals already, /v/ isn't interested in seeing the discussion of casual WoW players of all things. It isn't interesting unless you actually play the game, which most of /v/ doesn't and probably didn't do, since maybe one in five ever raid seriously during their time playing.
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>>379368924
>We have a general on vg filled with casuals already
Nobody wants to discuss anything with trannies or attention whores. They always talk about sucking cock instead of the fucking game.
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>>379368924
>It isn't interesting unless you actually play the game, which most of /v/ doesn't and probably didn't do

how is this different than any other thread then?
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>>379368924
>post transmogs!
>i want to suck you off, futa tripfag!!
this is every /wowg/ thread
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>>379362291
>try BM since MM is in the cuck shed
>get cucked with nothing but haste and vers gear
>get fed the fuck up
>hear Survival works well with those stats
>try out Survival
>HOLY SHIT MONGOOSE BITES AT THE SPEED OF SOUND
>SO MANY FUCKING ABILITIES AND MECHANICS TO PAY ATTENTION TO
>ACTUALLY USE TRAPS BOTH LIBERALLY AND INTELLIGENTLY
>spec is INCREDIBLY fast paced and unforgiving if you're too casual
>top of the middle to near the very top of meters compared to other specs with a good 40 ilevel difference
>lining up all CDs and trinkets with a 6 stack Fury of the Eagle and get blinded by numbers when in AoE situations

I don't even have a legendary yet and I can only imagine how batshit it gets with them.
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>>379362153
>Collect 10 bear asses
> 25% drop rate
>Rinse and repeat for a month

Not saying revamped azeroth is any better, but i'd rather not have vanilla style lvling to 110
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>>379370608
This sounds fun, but actually grinding for gear is probably something /v/ is rarely fond of..
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>>379371347
Just run Mythic+s because it's the only content worth doing. You'll get full Haste/Verse by the end of the week.
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>>379362153
>the vanilla world and quests so you can experience the lost chapter of warcraft history

>1 hour hearthstone cooldown
>5 minute sprint cooldown
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>>379370608
It sure looks cool, until you start noticing its flaws
>Most powerful skills are Throwing Axes, Dragonsfire Grenade and Explosive traps, pop-on-CD skills
>Focus bar is only for filler attacks and almost irrelevant.
>Mongoose bite is a great burst...if your target doesn't die before the ramp up time
>Artifact dot relies on Harpoon. Harpoon CD does not reset even if it bugs out.
>You can Harpoon in, but you can't harpoon out and your dash is on a 2~3 min CD. Better watch out for those melee-wiping AOEs
>Self-heal on 2 minute CD. Trait to reset CD on kill is a deep artifact trait.
>Can't attack when you pop your bubble unlike all other melee specs that have damage-absorb bubbles.
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>>379371620
>Dragonsfire Grenade
>Better than Butchery

>Focus bar is only for filler attacks and almost irrelevant.
Focus adds complexity of choosing to keep Mok buff up or go for a Flanking Strike to fish for a Mongoos Bite proc or even to refresh Lacerate.

>Mongoose bite is a great burst...if your target doesn't die before the ramp up time
t. low ilevel shitter who's getting carried

>Artifact dot relies on Harpoon. Harpoon CD does not reset even if it bugs out.
Not only does it rarely ever "bug out", but Harpoon is a good fucking thing to use liberally in your rotation when movement is ideal--especially if you have the legendary belt. Add in Disengage and you have Warrior-tier mobility. In what fucking world is that not ideal?

>You can Harpoon in, but you can't harpoon out and your dash is on a 2~3 min CD. Better watch out for those melee-wiping AOEs
Disengage is a talent that not only fixes your problem (though it should be baseline), but holy shit peel when you need to.
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>>379371884
(Cont)

>Self-heal on 2 minute CD. Trait to reset CD on kill is a deep artifact trait.
You have the mobility to get out of shit, stop standing in the fire, retard. BIG DICK DEEPS is a fucking meme when you're dead on the floor doing none at all. Not only that, but you should NEVER have issues with survivability in open world and healers should keep your dumb ass alive if you are doing what you're supposed to.

>Can't attack when you pop your bubble unlike all other melee specs that have damage-absorb bubbles.
It's in the fucking flavor of the ability AND it lets you cheese mechanics just like a Paladin, only you don't get a debuff on top of a long ass CD.

Survival's "flaws" are thematic clashes, a few design flaws that make no sense but still WORK, and the fact you need such a high amount of Haste to really get the ball rolling.

The only reason no one is screaming NERF THIS is because no one plays it because every fucking Hunter is a crybaby who refuses to adapt.
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>>379372160
>no one plays it
Because you can play any other melee spec that does the job better.
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>>379371287
>>379371438
I don't want the old gameplay, I just want to be able to experience the first rise of the Defias Brotherhood and the death of Katrana Prestor again, for example

If I want to experience the Third War again I can boot up Warcraft III, but I can't do that for vanilla wow
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>>379372656
Yes, it's Survival's fault that DHs and Warriors dominate while having very little involvement in their rotations beyond Fury having the Frothing Berserker playstyle. Or that Assassin is still brain dead and dominating because of their overpowered Mastery.
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>>379365104
>just admit to yourself that you will come back at the beginning of each expac
what if i didn't come back for legion?
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>Would play WoW
>leveling to 110 is a chore
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>>379372160
>no one plays it because every fucking Hunter is a crybaby who refuses to adapt
or i can just roll a proper fucking melee class and do just as much damage with 1/8 of the effort
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Canceled my sub way back, right around when ToV came out.

Reason? They nerfed my class. No classes should be nerfed, only buffed to be in line with eachother.

This game is a joke.
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>>379373318
>waah waah waah i'm a fotm baby
ok where do i subscribe to your blog
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>>379373237
100~110 is probably the best leveling experience yet due to level scaling. You don't kill stuff in 1 hit anymore and you don't have to worry about over leveling a zone. The zones aren't as dead because they are reused for lvl 110 content and all the cross-realm phasing good luck if you're on a PvP server
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>>379356967
>2017
>playing legion at all
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>>379373853
I've done a lot of the quests on multiple characters already.
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>>379363432
Not the same guy; But I felt that Blizz making demonblades and nemesis the best dps talents really killed most of the fun I had with the build.

Has that changed as of late?
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>>379362303
Glad I fucking dropped this game, was bad enough having my DPS halved the first time around just because the other tanks did a shit ton of single target dps
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>>379374053
No, you are still one of the classes with most fucking braindead rotation that only really spamms Chaos strike.
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>>379373516
I've been playing the same class since TBC. I got tired of Blizzard's shit idea of balancing. What's the point of working hard for gear if it means nothing due to poorly thought out, reactionary nerfs?
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>>379374045
If it's 100~110 you're talking about, you can speed through it if you have flying. If it's 1-100 you can pay $60
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>>379374147
Ah that sucks. I was kind of fine with that as long as momentum at least was COMPETITIVE with Nemesis single target. Since that made it require some degree of thought, but man they stopped being fun when it turned into a one-button rotation.
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>>379362291
It's actually really good, but the problem right now is that there's way, way too many melee dps and people expect hunters to be ranged.
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>really like playing fire mage
>it's fucking shit numbers wise

I don't want to play Frost, please, it's the most boring spec since Demon Hunters as a whole. Arcane is alright, but let me cast these big ass Pyroblasts again.
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>>379372735
You could just play on elysium?
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>>379374703
frost is more fun than fire today you piece of shit. stop picking passive talents.
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>>379374784
i'd prefer an official, lasting solution, if only for the future generations
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>>379374917
Frost is dull as shit, even when avoiding passive talents (and the big problem right now is that a lot of the passive talents are the best dps wise, too)

it's literally just clicking the shiny buttons: the spec, the only vaguely interesting thing is water jet
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I burned out and quit before 7.2 went live.. should I feel regrets?
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>>379375373
nope
ToV and nighthold isn't good and i doubt tomb will be good
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Played Blood throughout the first several months of the expansion. No regrets. Devs to my surprise are finding new and better ways of turning the game to shit with every patch.

How is it such an engaging spec like blood during MoP turned to unimaginative faint shade of former self in just two expansions?

Why is PvP so shit these days with templates and broken pvp skills? Why are tank templates designed to keep you away from PVP?
I remember PVPing as protection warrior in MoP and could literally destroy other classes with several shield slams. Tank had control and was feared. What happened?

And then there are retarded templates in leveling and timewalking dungeons too now. During the previous expansions a tank spec could (slowly) solo that content but now with some packs of dungeon mobs the health of a BIS-geared tank spikes like crazy.
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>>379375816
>No regrets.
I meant no regrets after I quit for good.
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lads dd u get your welfareloot yet??
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>>379358337
Why did they ruin WoW 6 years ago?
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>>379358337
>pretending hunters haven't always been the baby class
kek
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>>379376431
Survival is surprisingly difficult to play properly
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>Was going to buy a token when Class Mounts were finally out
>Can't find the motivation

Maybe when 7.2.5 launches.
Or maybe when Tomb opens.
Or maybe never.
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>still playing legion after witnessing AP
Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>379376571
Better than garrisons
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>>379376571
i like video games
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>>379376654
Then you should actually go play some good ones
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>>379376571
I am easy as fuck to please
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>>379376551
and your reward for not fucking up the GCD-capped rotation with two dozen buttons is doing approximately the same damage as 4-button classes
truly marvelous
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>>379376725
decided by who, you? or metacritic scores?
i am the best judge
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>>379376750
That's pretty much the same way it's been with classes since Cataclysm.

80% of damage usually comes from 4 abilities. The more complicated specs will sometimes outperform but you need to be quite comfortable with them first
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>>379376883
>i am the best judge
Clearly not if you're still playing legion
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>>379375816
Because the whole point of DKs was they were a reverse builder spender class where you had options in how you spend your builders that best fit the situation.

Now every DK spec is spam rune ability one, RP dump, spam rune ability two.
Remember in wrath when 'rp dumping' actually meant you had fucked up.
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>Brewmaster will never be worth shit in pvp
fuck
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>>379364325
Brewmaster has never been as fun to play since clash was removed and now you can hurl barrels every half second it's even less entertaining
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>>379377069
I barely played DK in wrath but I know it was a whole different class from the present. All specs could tank, different weapons and runes and it was crazy OP during wotlk.

I understand 'streamlining' hurt it a lot and there are lots of abilities that either became spec exclusive or turned into shitty talents.

>Now every DK spec is spam rune ability one, RP dump, spam rune ability two.
Replace with builders and spenders and energy and the same can be said about pretty much every class these days.
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>>379377286
From what I've seen every tank spec is suffering in pvp. I've tried arenas, battlegrounds and world pvp and its the combination of templates, pvp talents and general "-% damage done in pvp by X ability" that completely screws you over.
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>>379376553
The short class mount scenarios are nice but you need to clear the Broken Shore quest chain to access them.
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>>379375989
>no pawn string in sight

fuck off normie playeer
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>>379356982
I recently rolled fury and I am having a great time. They are basically reducing the requirement to have draught of souls by nerfing the item and buffing fury warriors in general. So it's a good deal and it's consistently a top placing subclass.
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>>379377546
and boy was that chain half assed
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>you spec is ok
>gathering gear with primal stats
>"WHOOPS HAVE A PATCH WHERE WE REBALANCE EVERYTHING"
>your spec and gear is now absolutely useless
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>>379377676
this is why end of expansion is usually the best time to play

a full year without any serious changes
>>
Ive sacrificed everything

What has /v/ given?
>>
people still play this?
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>>379356967
>Let's have a WoW/Legion thread.
Let's not. Take your addiction and fuck off to /vg/.
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>WoW
>P2W gook grindfests
>P2W wets grindfests
MMO is dead, right?
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>>379378000
>demon hunter npcs have the nerve to tell this to DK player characters
L O L
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>>379378268
correct
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>>379361704
I would put Sub one tier higher. Maybe you would too after the patch hits and it's gonna get even better.
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>get bis leggo
>effect gets nerfed by 50%
>alt gets bis leggo
>effect gets nerfed by 40%
>get new bis leggo
>effect gets nerfed by 50%
>one of the new leggos will be bis so I won't have it for months
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>>379380037
>consecutively getting bis leggo.
>thinking you have it bad.
>>
Why are we druid players here
Just to suffer?
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>>379380134
>bis leggo becomes the worst of the legendaries that actually do anything
>get my "new" bis 8th
Yeah fuck you.
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>>379359568
>getting rewarded for doing nothing and having gear be received at random is shit.

Except it's not, in most cases? The chances of getting an actually good TF are so low, it's like being assblasted about someone winning the lottery. In one of their slots. And probably once throughout the entire expansion.

You can argue that having stuff like heroic drops pretty consistently WF/TFing to the level of a mythic drop is a shit system (and you'd be right), but a random schmuck using up all his luck for 2 years and getting a 925 piece off a WQ once really doesn't affect the health of the game or the itemization in the slightest.
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>>379381152
>need a dps for M+
>get tons of ilvl 910 people
>they are trash that have never stepped in to a mythic raid that just have tons of titanforged items
>recently invite a 897 guy that managed to somehow get his m+15 achievement a day before I got mine
>does amazing dps and remarks on how he's not used to his groups doing so well
The system is a sham.
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> 2017
> WoW

Pick one
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>>379356967
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>>379381420
>they are trash that have never stepped in to a mythic raid that just have tons of titanforged items

Are you really going to tell me that they got to 910 just by doing WQs and the like?
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>>379374176
>waaaah I can't top dps charts waaaah
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Wow general, yes!
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>>379380632
Oh yeah I'm crying just imagining it dude, dang, that's terrible.
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>>379364424
The DoS nerf does nothing for Fury. It's a free buff because we weren't going to keep using DoS in ToS anyway. The only thing the nerf changes is how fast we drop it.
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>>379356967
>fury/disc
>ap maybe, maybe not
>not really but glad to be done with NH
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>>379361470

>falling for a hack dev team trying to replicate the MoP god-era without actually admitting it
>probably still wont put in the cosmetics lost with embers

fuck these hacks.

reminder legendaries are literally just glyphs.
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How much faster does Legion leveling get when you can fly?

My mains only 2k into honored with Legionfall but I've been wondering how much easier leveling alts would be
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>Spec
Fury Warrior, now leveling a Shadow Priest because of 7.2.5 changes to AK
>Grinding
The Shadow Priest so that he'll be ready with his Artifact weapon (it's so cool with all the old god style whispers!) Also upping Prestige levels at the moment with my Fury being Arms.
>You hype for 7.2.5?
Yes please! AK40 for alts once main reaches AK40, and after how fantastic Nighthold was, I have some pretty big expectations for Tomb Of Sargeras. I wonder how they plan to do the "players get to Argus" thing for 7.3 since it appears that we will touchdown on Argus at some point during that fight as well. Also excited to see what kind of new abilities those legendary rings will add and how they change game mechanics for each class.

>>379356982
Fury Warriors, Frost Mages, and Assassination Rogues all have intricate priorities for maximizing DPS. Honestly the best play from each of these specs ever in WoW, and they are also among the most fun specs period in WoW ever as well.

>>379357037
Finally got it the other day. Advantages of being Human and all that. At least it extends account wide.
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>>379382239
Just slightly faster by an hour of traveling time is my best guess. Leveling in legion is already pretty quick if you just focus on the main quest lines and skip all the bonus objectives.
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>>379364325

it's not as fun as MoP BrM, I think most people miss Guard and a lot of the toolset has been pruned, it still functions and is probably 2nd strongest tank overall right now.

It's sorta like a lesser case of Warlocks in regards to losing shit they had and having to talent into their old spellbook.
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>tfw assassin rogue
>pretty good dps for minimal effort

Frankly, as long as I'm not dead last for dps I'm fine with it
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>>379373237
Taking advantage of the Legion Assaults helps out a lot to speed it up.
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>>379365504

I was salty about devastator changes too but after about a week it became apparent the spec was improved tbqh.

Battle Cry is just an UNGA damage button now without ultimatum but you do fuckloads more damage.

Git gud.
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>mfw Ret since Vanilla
Was a long journey.
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>>379383214
Honestly I like this about the spec. Basic effort gets you decent DPS, but then a lot of effort maintaining a lot of different things will get you among the top DPS.
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Even with all it's small issues current Fury is a lot of fun and nothing really changes for us in 7.2.5 either so it's mostly fine.

Still wish they would fix Juggernaut
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>>379356967
Started the xpac as a pally, changed to warrior, then to shaman, now im warrior again, thinking of changing to a rogue tbqh

10/10 mythic
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>>379357658
>>379357860
>>379360338
>>379368924
>>379373914
>>379378236
shoo shoo shillfags
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>>379384261
Using that word completely wrong.

>>>/vg/
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>>379384476
No I'm not, shoo
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Warcraft IIII when???
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I hope Arms becomes viable. Fury is boring and isn't getting any changes in rotation.
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>>379385507
Arms have been completely remade, essentially. FR is dead. It's tied with fury for most of the fight and then it's got an overpowered execute phase.
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>>379384261
is this the most ironic post of all time?
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>>379375989
>900
what the fuck
aren't legendaries 900?

I ended up ragequitting since of my group of friends I was the last to get my legendary (most of my friends had two) despite having the highest item level and playing longer - only to get that stupid fucking haste ring as an assassination rogue. Mind you, the expansion had been so shit I was really just looking for any excuse to leave at that point
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>>379386164
They started at 910. Obviously they were going to get stronger.
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>>379386032
YOU THINK YOU DO BUT
O
U
D
O
N
T
>>
remember when they did that number crunch in MoP because the numbers were getting stupidly high

now everyone's running around with millions upon millions of HP
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>>379386164
They started at 895
Then they buffed them to 910
Then with Nighthold they got further buffed to 940
When Tomb of Sargeras comes out they will go up to 970
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>>379386032
It's like a bad relationship and the wife that gets beaten up constantly doesn't know how to end it
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>>379386493
Something about limitations of the engine. DPS could jump to what it is now but bosses couldn't have as much health.
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>>379386493
WoW only ran on a 32-bit engine, so the most amount of health a boss could have was somewhere around like, 2 billion i think.
They fixed that and the max number that they have is so stupidly high that it's pretty unreachable.
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I wish they'd just let it die already

and if they did make a WoW 2, make it more like Runescape where just because new content has been added (especially expansions) it doesn't mean everything you did before it is now useless
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>>379386962
>the max number that they have is so stupidly high that it's pretty unreachable.

At this rate they'll be reaching a googolplex 3 expansions from now
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>>379387226
hopefully legion is the last or second to last expansion
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>>379362873
>>379362989
Wasn't even 9 months ago the meme was
>FURY
During EN.
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>>379387457
Next expansion is World of Starcraft where we learn that both the dying franchises take place in the same universe.
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You poor greedy fools
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>>379362873
>>379364914
exactly how I feel about it mate.

stay stronk, arms warrs are master race
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>>379387685
Fury wasn't that bad. When it got a small % increase everyone started switching over. Arms was unreliable even when it was considered OP. Why do they have to tie so many effects to one fucking proc? It makes no sense
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>>379356967
>playing WoW in 2017
>playing LEGION
You fags really love sucking Blizzard's cock after getting beat the fuck up after a rough fuck don't you?
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>>379356967
Classic: Learning to ride a horse with friends
TBC: More adventures with your friends but on a motorbike
Wrath: That bike now has stabilizers
Cata: Fuck your sta- No wait, here's two more
Mists(despite the lolPandas) if had great content and was a break from doom and gloom: Take a walk every now and again
WoD: Your legs are broken, your friends left long ago, fuck you
Legion: Enjoying the mechanical horse simulator?
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