Since they destroyed my main im quitting this pile of shit. whats

fps are a shit tier genre

Battleborn just became free

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>Maining Roadhog

>>379306685
Quake champions when it comes out

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>Oh no, you'll have to shoot TWICE to kill the hooked target instead of once!

You can still one shot 1/3 of the cast (Tracer included), you just have to align your spread at neck level, and you might have to follow up with a melee. Also they can't have any healing on them.

Also boohoo, you can't be FlankHog anymore and you have to stick on your team and rely on them to follow up. Just hit them with a right click (which actually takes skill), hook and leftclick, melee if any health left.

>>379306685
Good riddance, braindead oneshot shitter.

lol roadhog mains

lots of salty people here that can't counter roadhog

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>>379306685

How did they nerf hog?

It's been awhile since I've played overwatch. I stopped playing when they first nerfed mccree.

Btw is fan the hammer still useless or does it still have some use?

>>379307863
-Reduced bullet damage
However
+Increased fire rate
+clip size increased from 4 to 5

So its a stealth buff.

>>379307338
>>379307575
>>379307634
>>379307724


I know shit might be hard for you mercy and genju shiters to understand but without the instakill roahog is literally useless. If you get hooked anyway you were in a bad position 90% of the time, its easy as shit to break and dodge even with that the hook is only successful 40-60% of the time, meaning for 16 seconds roadhog is a slow easy target that is easily punishable. Roadhog was strong but balanced and only brain-dead silver retards complained about him, same with pariah. The pros only use him 15% and he is weak against dive meaning the only high teir play will be winston diva tracer dive.


>half the cast have abilities that either fuck your fat ass up (ana nade, sleep) or escapes (recall, winston jump, genji dash, mei ice)


meaning all you are is a big fat walking ultcharge. Hes lost his purpose and should either be completely be reworked or deleted., His F teir trash now.

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>all these roadhog mains crying they can't one-shot half the cast from across the map and now have to actually coordinate with their team
Get fucked

>>379307863
mccree is very good now. Ive been using him a lot lately, love when someone is about to ult and i can hit em with a flash then fan the hammer

>>379307863
This guy>>379308120
is lying, its not a buff at all. his overall damage has been reduced significantly and his burst has been gutted. His gun is just a spammy bigger reaper gun with no damage now Hes total shit now and any other tank is much better than him at his job and more (zayrya in particular)

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>>379308232
Keep going, my popcorn could use more salt
>Genju shitters
Oh man I'd love to see a Roadhog "main" try to use Genji well, that would be a fucking riot

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>>379307863
33% less damage on gun
30% faster fire rate
Clip size increased 4-5

It's better to followup a flash bang with a headshot than a Fan the Hammer, but unless you can't reliably land the headshot, FtH will still kill 250 health heroes if all 6 shots land. But headshots will always kill faster and have less recovery time. FtH being a tank killer was retarded.

Also McCree recently got a buff with his Ult, it's not out on Live but it's on the PTR

you can main not roadhog in paladins

I bought this game and never liked it. How much luck would I have selling a Blizz account with nothing but Overwatch?

>>379308293
This thread just hsows how many gold shitters /v/ has, Who the fuck complains about hog?

Whats next does hanzo need a nerf to scatter and his headshots? pharah? what about widow, she shouldnt able to oneshot either right?

>>379306685
There isn't, after Tribes got butchered all that was released after was garbage on top of garbage copying garbage.

>>379308232
Get fucked crybaby, I am loving your tears.

Reddit wins again

>>379308452
I use genji he is literally

>spam double jump and shirukens for ult
>Q and slash everything dash when you get a kill
>repeat

Against good players hog gets punished and exposed as fuck for bad positioning as he doesn't have a >no can shoot me button or >im out of here button

>>379307575
The problem with that is that his spread is random. You can aim neck level and still do crap damage.

>>379308293
dont walk into his line of sight, done. no nerf needed, you shitter

>>379308538
It was just on sale during and after a free weekend, so people who are interested in the game probably already got it.

>>379307863
>I stopped playing when they first nerfed mccree.
That was like a month after release, lol what a shitter faggot.

>>379308689
>>379308452
> you mad you mad XD

either post something of substance or go away

Honestly, Roadhog mains should switch to playing Dive Comp characters and laugh as you mercilessly kill the enemy with no way of stopping you.

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>>379308232
>admitting that you're a one trick

>>379306685
welp, i enjoy roadhog but now he is useless because shitters who like to play meme characters like reaper cant into positioning and juke a hook. On the plus side i can still play him well even with the nerf its just i get yelled at repeatedly to change off roadhog. Fuck you silver shitters. Quit comp if you cant at least get into high gold after 3-4 seasons.

>>379306685
Wait they destroyed Roadhog?
Picking this game back up.

>>379308762
Honestly m8 between this and what you said about zarya you must be in bronze or silver at best

>>379308774
>don't move anywhere in the map
>ever
>you're a shitter if you do

0/10

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>>379309028
>"""""""""""""""""""""""competitive""""""""""""""""""""""" overwatch

>>379308965
>most characters in the game arent easy as fuck casual to use
I play Zarya rein, solider, Lucio and zen at masters.

at this point I think im being baited so im gonna stop replying to you.

>>379308950
Yessss yesssss more MORE!!

Your tears are lube for me!!

>>379308783
Damn. I was hoping I could get $20 out of this.

>>379309239
character balance is determined by comp ande how many people complain. Its susually low tier faggots complaining they cant git gud and want their main counter nerfed to all hell thinking they will do good in comp. These nerfs apply to all modes so quickplay and random shit becomes boring because all the fun is takin out in favor for braindead character buffs

>>379309216
>all maps are empty plains

do you possess the necessary brain functions to operate a controller, anon?

>>379309250
>>379308762
>I use genji
>I don't use genji
be careful to keep your story consistent anon-chan

>>379308953
dive requires coordination while road was a one man apocalypse.

>>379308232

>this is what roadhog mains actually think

>>379306685
>"maining" in ovewatch

>>379308671
>Tribes
This wasn't supposed to be a feels thread anon.

>>379308473

>McCree recently got a buff with his Ult

How did they buff his ult?

>>379308936

How does that make me a shitter faggot? I got bored of the game after a month?

>>379308575
None of them are tanks you fucking retard

>>379308232
Maybe you're the shitter since you're not playing with your team which is explicitly what tanks are for. Moreover you're not behind your barrier so you're in an even shittier position. And all cast have the same movespeed. And he's not easily punishable since he's usually behind a barrier with teammates surrounding him, meaning healer and damage plus a self-heal and what used to be a 1-hit at any effective range kit.

ggez

>>379309821
His ult charges damage quicker for the first second of it, allowing you to pop it faster against low hp heroes.

>>379309830
Hog is a tank in name only. His hook makes him play like an assassin, and he can't mitigate damage or shield teammates, only absorb it, feeding ult.

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Why does Orisa have such a shit ult bros? She is a fun character to play, but she is already not very good and a total failure to making another Reinhardt. Then they have to give her an awful ult that just gets killed instantly that takes forever to charge up.
>Design based on horse people
>Slowest character in the game
WHY

>>379309821
Targets lock on after .2 seconds instead of .8

Damage build up to the first second increased from 20 to 80, but will have the same build on after 1 second (20 health per second)

>>379308473
Pump the breaks there squirrely Dan, you've got to be on target 100% and or have a damaged target to pull off a headshot kill from that stun. FTH is definitely the way to go for consistency, but frankly using pocketsand offensively is a bad habit without generous circumstances favoring your desired outcome. It's much better used defensively.

>>379309830
but they have mobility which is better than having a huge hitbox with hp. hanzo can peak and 1 shot you without you even seeing him.

>>379306685

>"I cant instantly kill any hero in the game anymore for no reason while pussy hiding behind a rein shield!"

Kill yourself.

>>379308232
>roadhog fuck calling anyone else shitters
LMAO

>>379308452
In order to play genji well you only need mechanical skill, which isn't much.

It will take more time to get used to roadhog for genji players than otherwise. You will indeed be able to use hook combo, but to perform well you need some actual game knowledge. You don't need game knowledge to be decent with genji.

>>379309803
This

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>Reaper is getting a buff
>but his abilities are still complete garbage
>him getting a buff now means he won't be touched for another two years
>he'll still be unplayable against people with at least the most basic awareness
>been climbing the ranks and I've now reached the point where this is the norm

>>379306685
Well can I still hook and drop people into a death pit?

>>379310143
>Why does Orisa have such a shit ult bros?

It's literally 50% damage buff (the same from a nano boost) for all allies within range

>>379308232
WAHHHHH! WAAAHHHHHH!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

Sorry faggot, roadhog needed this nerf so badly so fucking trash like you can actually have to get decent at the game and not rely on an overpowered fucking GIMMICK to win

>>379310445
His buff is not actually a buff

>>379310125
None of you shitters heard of zoning?

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>>379306685
you have 23 heroes to pick, fun heroes to play as
are you going to cry like a bitch because your current main is shit?

So what? The character is the same, just be better with him.
Fucking casuals who can only do what the meta dictates. You are incapable of having fun with any online game if you are restricted to what the meta tells you.

>>379310642
With the way old orbs worked, it actually is a buff.

It's your fault for continuing to play OW after they butchered Genji, I wasn't even a Genji player but I quit the game then because I realized Blizzard would only continue to make fucktarded balance decisions and remove anything that would give the game a higher skill ceiling

>>379310143
>Team wide 50% damage boost for 15 seconds
>bad

The only bad thing is its low health, but with 25 meters to play with, you can put it somewhere safe.

>>379309830
>highest hp pool in game
>50% heal every 8 seconds
>not a tank
???
>>379310143
It's a 50% damage buff with a large range dependant only on LoS
Put it in the right place and it will buff your whole team and be safe-ish from the enemy long enough for the fight to be turned around, especially when used in tandem with other ults. It's a good ult, but it's useless tier if you don't think about it's placement before you drop it.

>>379310653
Why are you referring to me in plural and how the fuck does zoning play into what I said?

>>379310603
It has 200 health and shows itself with a link.

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>everyone complains that Roadhog has been ruined
>still see him destroy fuckers

Explain

>>379308452
>>379308689
>>379308965
>>379309687
>>379309891
>>379310350
>>379310637
>Roadhog was strong but balanced and only brain-dead silver retards complained about him
Didn't you just prove him right?

>>379310719
Not really. Orbs were giving you more burst heal that you could have gained while in wrath, allowing you to be more sustainable in the teamfight. Now wrath is even more of a shit ability and no automatic reload will ever fix it.

>>379310642
20% lifesteal on damage is a major buff. 200 HP heros grant overall less sustain, but that is assuming you actually kill them for the orb...

>>379310642

It is a buff. You might get less health from killing a low health target, but you get sustain while fighting them. It also works with his ulti which can help you not die if they try to burst you down, in the off chance they don't have one of the gorillion abilities that counter it.

>>379310143
It's shit if you panic it. If you actually use your brain and coordinate, it's a table turner.

>>379310603
>>379310897
>>379310908
It's super inflexible and only works if you can place it well at the start of a fight. Doesn't do anything if you get it halfway through a fight either

>>379310915
Its not suppose to survive, but you drop a shield down, drop it, and they have to break through the wall of retard you've made.

>>379310945
This
Played Roadhog during a comp match against diamond players (I'm pretty shit-tier, don't mind me) and mopped the floor with them. Roadhog's still pretty damn good, man.

>>379311058
Did you actually play him on PTR? He's still shit in the teamfights, the sustain he gained is not enough when you're getting targeted by pretty much everyone, except maybe d.va and winston, the picks he countered already anyway. Solo roadhog shitters getting punished for that too though.

>>379310445
Shadow Step is garbage, but the rest of his abilities is solid. Death Blossom in particular is going to be much better with the lifedrain.

>>379306685
Lol welcome to blizzard games retard. They do this all the time in wow, which is cycle nerfs and buffs to classes. It's to force you to find a new character to play so you spend more time in their shit games and spend money to buy shit.

>>379311119
>super inflexible.

25 meters is huge, longer then most effective damage ranges. There are plenty of ultimate that are way worse.

>>379311207
The nerfs are currently on the PTR

>>379310782
Genji is still being used in GM and esports games (yes even the koreans). Sounds like you're just bad.

>roadhog main
>can't play it anymore now that you can't one shot non-tanks

kys fampai

>>379309803
3on3, 1on1, surprise-heroes
an the best one: pls I want that hero

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That sucks that you have to call out your hooks now. Must be rough having to ask your team to help out in a team-based video game.

>>379306685
Battleborn

It's now F2P and you can play Ghalt. A better version of Roadhog.

>>379306685
All shooters suck. Stick with something that's popular with faggots like Halo.

>>379311252
Of course I played him on PTR, and he's still shit because his guns are garbage, as are his two non ult abilities.

>>379311273
Death Blossom will be better with the lifesteal, though its still easy to counter. Wraith form needs to move him faster and should work on a meter like Defense Matrix, or at least be cancelable.

Reminder that most people who post in this thread tend to be below Masters.

>>379311785
Reminder that people in masters aren't necessarily very good anyways

>>379311785
Reminder that your Hog tears are delicious

>>379311785
>majority players are below top 10%
Wow anon ur so smart :)

>>379310973
t. mad ass roadhog main

Can you still whack em with the hook right after you pull them? I haven't played OW in a while let alone roadhog but months ago when I'd land a hook on say a reaper, mcree, or tracer and I would almost always die or be forced to turtle away if I didn't get that first shot off perfectly for the instant kill. Tracers were the worst about it. If anyone needed a nerf it was her IMO. You shouldn't be allowed to do metric fuckloads of damage fast while also moving around the map fast.

I think I heard someone say you can shoot as fast as you mouse click now, so where's the problem? Just double tap. Or like I said whack em with the hook. If you're near your team they should be the prime target after you pull em anyway.

>>379311890
>>379311902

Aw fuck that didn't take long for the insecure ones to come

I don't play Hog competitively. I just don't find him a problem that I can't fix by getting better at the game.

>>379308293
>half the cast

You mean the vast majority of the cast. If you're not a Tank with over 350 HP you are getting one shot by Roadhog

>>379309803
You can legitimately main the following characters in Overwatch and always be a credit to your team

Reinhardt
Soldier 76
Ana
Lucio
Zarya
Winston
McCree (only if you can actually aim)
D.Va

Every one of these characters offers something that every team should have and are never a bad pick unless you are in the pros running dive comps.

>>379312191
Aw fuck it didn't take long for you to be the real shitter.

>>379311954

Which means a majority of players tend to not know what the fuck they're talking about. Like most things that a lot of people do but only a few truly understand.

>>379310973
>one shot 90% of the cast
>balanced

Nah nigga

>>379312327

>Makes excuses for not being master
>Crying about Roadhog and being incredibly defensive

And then anon was the shitter

>>379312191
>calls others insecure
>boasts about rank in a shitty casual shooter with huge ranking bias towards people that played in past seasons
>boasts about being a master
wew lad.

>>379312171
If you hold on the left click as you're hooking, it will buffer and will shoot as soon as the hook animation is done

>>379312338
explain all the mercy mains, faggot.

>>379312457
And then THIS anon was the shitter

>>379312191
How do you "get better" at getting one shot by his long range mouse two attack?

Does getting better stop him from randomly one shutting half the cast when the netcode randomly decides all the pellets hit?

>>379312206
>Roadhog
>Lucio
The rest are interchangeable.

>>379312369
Don't forget his hook is literally 20m.

>>379312464

Boasting isn't the same as trying to get some of the better players here to stop arguing with people who will never be swayed.

I don't think I'm good or even understand the game that well compared to the players ahead of me, not even close honestly. But I understand it more than you and I understand it more than most others in the thread. Come at me faggot.

>>379312690
>Roadhog
kick me in the balls, I mean Reinhardt

>>379312690
Interchangeable doesn't mean anything. Soldier 76 is still the best DPS, Reinhardt is still one of the best Tanks, Ana is still one of the best healers, Lucio is down right fucking broken right now, Zarya is still a great character, etc.

>>379312775
I WILL SHIT ALL OVER YOU FAGGOT.

>>379312606

Mercy mains is the easy stupid way into high ranks just like S3 D.Va.

We can at least both agree on that.

>>379312464
>huge ranking bias towards people that played in past seasons
I placed in every season and pretty much didn't play comp afterwards. All placements were gold, but in the last placement after 8 losses and 2 wins it was high silver. Fuck me.

>>379312338
wow ur like that dude from NV lol u must b sheldon smart!

>>379312884

I WILL KILL YOU WITH MY DICK BITCH

>>379308575
Scatter is getting nerfed next baby.

Imagine the Roadhog babies crying x100 for what its going to sound like when hanzo can't one shot 400hp targets

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Being a roadhog main just to one shit

>>379306685
People just kept bitching about him, blizz had no choice.
It was the whole point of his character to get a vital pick while initiating.

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>this character will GUARANTEED one shot you in the fucking ass if you're a sub 200 HP hero
>that means genji, mercy, tracer, and zenyatta watch the fuck out nigga!
>literal bronze shitters fucking shit the bed when they get hooked as tracer or genji because they're fucking retarded trying to solo a 600hp + instakill gun without knowing how to properly do it
>blizzard nerfs him because they afraid of just telling faggots to git gud
ROADHOG IS LITERALLY A 600HP ULT BATTERY IT'S YOUR FAULT IF YOU GET KILLED BY HIM

>>379313070
What if

- Damage reduction
+ Can headshot

That way, it will be used in its intended way of bouncing around small rooms instead of just aiming at the feet for an instakill

>>379313146
>sub 200

You mean sub 400

Roadhog one shots every single character in the game outright unless they are a Tank. That means 95% of the cast is liable of being deleted instantly unless you have a Zarya to bubble you for """bad positioning""" on an instant kill combo with a fucking range almost as long as McCree's M1.

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>>379313379
Just avoid his line of sight noob

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>>379313379
>You mean sub 400
STOP SPREADING DISINFO YOU STUPID SHITTER
YOU DIDN'T GET ONE SHOTTED BY ROADHOG YOU CUNT, YOU LET HIM SHOOT YOU AGAIN OR YOU WERE ALREADY LOW HEALTH AS IT WAS SHUT THE FUCK UP
>Roadhog one shots every single character in the game outright unless they are a Tank.
YOU LITERAL FUCKING BRAIN DEAD MONGOLOID

>>379313146
And now hes nerfed :)

>>379313371
scatter already headshots

>>379313580
Only the initial projectile, which is something that you should avoid.

>>379313371
Shit idea. More like
>initial shot doesn't scatter against the floor, only against a wall.

>>379313525
I play Roadhog you stupid shit, I fucking one shot Reapers and Meis all day. Do you even know how to hold M1 once they're hooked? Hook, shoot+melee. At least learn the fucking braindead combo you cunt. The smallest health after Reaper and May is Zarya at 400, you cannot one shot her unless she was already damage.

>>379313508
Great, we should go back to launch McCree and Widowmaker then as well. Stop getting in Widow's line of sight and stop letting McCree get close to you.

>>379313580
Scattershot arrows do not headshot. It used to in Beta but now it doesnt. Try it out if you don't believe me. Listen for the headshot noise and the large red X

>>379313371
Scatter should only work on walls. Most shitters hit the floor with it, while any time you want to corner kill you should hit a wall nearby.

>>379311785
reminder that if you got to masters using road or zarya you are not good at all

>>379313379
No he doesnt, all the tanks live afte rone shit, mei doesnt die, ana lives half the time, bastion needs 2 shots. thats no where 90% more like 70 you retard.
]
Additionally the hook is easy as hell to bait or just break with cover is you arent a drooling moron. the hook misses 50%of the time anyway. if hog is so OP how come he doesnt dominate every-game he is in? Why do masters and GM dont pick him as often?


Thats because Solider, reinhart and even zayra are strong as fuck too in their own ways. You just want to see a character get gutted into uselessness because you are too dumb to avoid the hook.

>>379310653
Why would I want an ult to zone the enemy, when I can fucking slaughter them all with a Genji or a Soldier ult? Mcree ult sucks cock.

>>379313902
I play him all the time and scatter arrow headshots into targets and get the red x

>>379313890
>I play Roadhog you stupid shit,
No you don't, sweetie :)

>>379310269
>im to shit to stop running wide in the open when i know theres a roadhog even-though I can see or hear his fat ass form a mile away

better yet hide behind your own Rein you shiter.

>>379314125
Yeah the arrow can headshot before it hits the floor or ground and scatters, but the individual scatter arrows do not headshot. You are mistaken.

Fighting communities deal with the more irritating aspects of a game because it makes the game as a whole full of more depth.

Why do popular communities like League and Overwatch want to be babied so much? It's like the complete opposite. Right now It's Road and it'll move on to someone else. Eventually the game will become dull.

>>379314014
Meanwhile Reinhardt is a shitters pick with maps based around him and his stupid easy kit.

>>379314328
the game is already dull
>>379314302
nah, Im pretty sure its just a 1 in 1 mil thing, scatter is actually kinda shitty and insanely inconsistent

>>379313764
>>379313962
I've been in situations where I was high above and had to shoot at the floor to get scatter bounce inside a tight corridor.

While I like the idea, it would limit its usefulness unless
>Initial shot does not scatter if it hits a floor, but still bounces until hitting a wall where it scatters.

>>379314554
Yes, that's even better. Thanks, anon.

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>>379313146
this is true. if you hated roadhog after hook 2.0 you are just a shitter.

>>379314554
Scatter arrows only scattering on walls sounds fun , and will actually have skilled usage of [SIMPLE GEOMETRY]

>>379310125
His hook IS zoning tool, the 20m range of death around him while it is up makes enemies cautious and scared. with this you protect your squishy teammates. his high health means he is a bigger target than his teammates so they shoot you instead. Thats what makes him a "tank". But he is a different tank.

rein is the one true anchor tank that protects the whole team,

Zarya is similar to hog as a DPS tank BUT she can directly soak damage without giving ult charge and save her teamates from damage. Divia can also save teamates and do damage but she has mobility to make uop for her range and damage. Without the hook he is just a big target for ult charge and no one is scared of him. If this patch goes through hog will garbage and no one will use him over other tanks, reaper or even solider who is almost just as lethal but more mobile

>>379314743
MUH MUH ULT BATTERY

maybe learn to aim your right click you fucking casual, it can one hit kill 76 if you head shot

Is Roadhog badly designed or Roadhog players have a bad mindset?

>>379315116
The latter.

>>379311779
>Wraith form needs to move him faster and should work on a meter like Defense Matrix
>Actually wanting an invulnerability button at will
Are you fucking insane

>>379313890
If you get in a sniper's sights you're toast, of course

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>>379311740
lmao even halo has become the next CoD clone. 343 is doing a "great" job with the franchise.

>>379315252
maybe the only way he can refill it is with kills

Are the changes really coming upstream? hasnt blizz reacted to the feedback?

>>379306685
>destroyed my main

If you mean completely fix a broken character thenn yeah I guess you should quit, faggot.

>>379315102
Unless you are against retards (plat and below) people stay out of your range. You need to leave this thread, its obvious you are a silver shitter who doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about.

>hook from long range, no punish if you miss
>can't be flanked because you get destroy at close range
>assuming he has no aim when you got over him, he can outheal your damage enough to let a teammate kill you
>a safe way to kill him, is from range, without his hook and healing ability
>literal tank with dps output
BUT MUH ULT BATTERY

>>379315426
If there are enough complaints, changes won't go into live

Some examples are Mercy's 50% damage boost (compared to the 30% she has now)
And Zenyatta being able to discord through barrriers.

>>379315426
The last time they made sensible adjustments (hooking someone wasn't a guarenteed free kill) they caved in before it hit Live.

Honestly they will probably give in again, Roadhogs are whining like babies that they can't one shot people anymore.

>>379315563
except being useless for an eternity

>>379315252

It would have a short cooldown period between uses like Matrix, and it's not like he can attack during it. It would be more for phasing in and out during a fight to avoid certain abilities. It would take good timing and some foresight to use properly. Perhaps it would need tweaking on the recharge rate and total duration but I don't see the problem.

>>379306685
Come over to Paladins and try playing our overpowered hooker tank, he actually has a way to help the team!

Seriously though, I'm glad you can't have fun anymore.

>>379310361
The fuck are you on about? It's way easier to get punished as Genji than it is for Roadhog to get punished. Roadhog can stay in the safety of his own team and get kills pretty easily, Genji has to be in risky positions to pull anything off and know what heroes it's safe to engage and when to do it if he don't want to get anally raped. Meanwhile all I do as Roadhog in masters is walk next to our other tank and spam right click and get kills while never being in any danger ever.

>>379315116
>>379315226
I think it's both really, he attracts shitters who play him badly, but he only attracts shitters who play him badly because they can get away with it

>>379315486
How was he broken? Hes a slow, strong but highly punishable character. You get a low of power with him but when you fuck up you feed the enemy a fuckton. that was a great design and made him fun as fuck to play and fight. now hes just a fat weak reaper. Its literally not even worth hooking people now because half the cast can straight up kill you or easily get away from you. He was perfectly balanced. look at his pick and win-rates. You have anything to say about-how the dive is stupidly strong now with no counter? No because you are a fucking sub plat shitter who doesn't know shit.

>>379310445
Sombra got several buffs over many patches and is pretty alright now, Reaper might see more buffs if this one didn't help.

Remember that the Roadhog nerf is an indirect buff to Reaper.

Blizzard really is atrocious when it comes to balancing their games. I've been playing HotS and while it is mindless fun, some heroes are just ridiculous and others are irredeemably trash. And looking at the patch notes, Blizz doesn't even know what the fuck they're doing. All they did was tweak Tyrande a bit because she wasn't "fun".

>>379315709
in overwatch you can be useful just by not dying anon, in 8 seconds you can try again

>>379315563
>no punish if you miss
jesus these fucking low plat babys

>>379315885
>Right click, left click
>win match

Nope. Broken.
Next.

>>379310915
>>379310143
>>379311119
Orisa should be on a high ground where she can hide it behind a shield so it won't get destroyed. Use it at the right moment and your entire team get a 50% damage boost which should wipe your entire enemy team provided they don't suck ass.

>>379315116
I'd say he's badly designed. He's designed on MOBA principles in a game where healing isn't difficult to get. I dont get why people think this nerf is a bad thing. It forces hog players to call their hooks instead of using it as an instagib.

>>379315489
mad cuz bad, I do it all the time, I rely on the ult fire more than the hook because people just expect the hook you salty road shitter

>>379315563
If hes so strong please tell me why he wasnt played and considered a liability in season 1 & 2 (before hook 2.0 where any hook was a instakill anywhere)

Note this was before the hook is breakable with any surface or wall.

go on, tell me.

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Just a reminder that Blizzard forced another dive-meta by nerfing Roadhog into the ground. Sombra, D.VA and Winston will be the only picks you see.

>>379316076
this, if blizzard didn't design everything like a fucking MMO this wouldn't be an issue

>>379315116
Badly designed. In any other game where maps aren't filled with chokes and tight areas you basically have to move through he would be okay since it would be easy to outrange, but it's impossible to outrange his fat ass if you actually want to get to the objective.

If a tank is a strong replacement for any DPS then it's imbalanced.

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>>379306685
>Over a year since release
>They *still* can't balance any fucking hero

Great game you got there, blizzard.

>>379316143
Dive was literally how the game was meant to be played, that's why winston and DVA have jump abilities anon.

And it will be dead as soon as Reaper 2.0 hits live anyway.

>>379316143
but dive comp is fun, so I don't mind. it also requires a lot of skill if it's dive vs dive compared to when it was 4 tanks vs 4 tanks

FPS IS NOT A GEIMU

>>379315563
Jesus how bad are you.
>hook from long range, no punish if you miss
20m is midrange and if he misses and you dont pounce on his fat ass you are dumb and should die to a hook
>can't be flanked because you get destroy at close range
tracer and reaper can easily kill him close range, pharah,zen, solider ect can kill him from long range
>assuming he has no aim when you got over him, he can outheal your damage enough to let a teammate kill you
Shoot him in the head you shitter. any offensive orinted character can kill him. if you're trying to kill him with mercy kys

>literal tank with dps output
So why aren't you crying about zarya or diva who can duel DPS and is mobile as fuck?

>>379315116
they are literal children who think they DESERVE to one shot or stunlock people who have no way to fight back

>>379306685
Squad.

>oh no I have to work with my team for my free kill instead of plodding around the map by myself now

-hog shitters

>>379316050
That is not a response. read the post and try again.

> Retards unironically expect balance out of a Blizzard game
o i am lafin

>>379315728
Muhkoa is fun and you can give up hook burst for tanking options if you need to.

>>379316087
how am i a salty road shitter if you use him as well?

>>379316336

>Dive will be dead with Reaper

No it won't. Reaper thrives in dive. He might change the comps a bit. Zayra might be good again because she works so well with Reaper.

Reaper, Zayra and Lucio are going to dominate the scene.

>>379316096
what fucking fever dream are you living in?

>>379316096
Meta develops constantly as people play more. people were too hung up on the fact that Roadhog had no barriers to protect his teammates from and just acted as an ult battery, but didn't realize until later when Ana's broken nade and the birth of the tank meta that with 1 or even 2 other tanks his weaknesses were completely negated and you could oneshot people all day from behind the safety of a Reinhardt shield.

By your logic he should have never been used in season 3 or 4 nearly 100% of the time.

>>379308232

>characters with hook mechanics and without instakill mechanics are shit!

one shot mechanics fucking ruin games. the only thing you can do to stop it from happening is not get hit by a grab. besides that, you're fucking thrown out of position entirely - and it's not like he does no damage at all to begin with. this is much better and people will fucking get used to it.

>>379316808
because I'm good enough at the game that the changes will do nothing to me, which is why you're a shitter

>>379316675
Hog is who you pick if your team is retarded and not making plays. No one has the capacity to punish someone for bad positioning like hog. I'm not saying it was fair, but that is (was) his role.

>>379316864
Then where is hanzos nerf?

>>379306685
>waaaah now I have to put some actuall skill and thought into this game waaaah

Lol get rekt faggot.

one of my normie friends that doesn't really play video games loves roadie because of " how easy he is to use".

>>379316974
>le bad positioning meme

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This thread among with numerous other Roadhog threads tells me that a lot of people on /v/ are Roadhog mains and probably always go for the easiest, safest heroes to play in most competetive games to avoid the fact that they are pretty bad otherwise.

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>>379307863
Fan is still worthless.
They tried to tweak his main gun values but the fall off is shit. Soldier 76 is better at long range than mccree.
They buffed deadeye in ptr so it takes a whopping 0.3 less seconds to kill people in it.

They also buffed soldier 76 so that he is literally better than mccree in every situation.

>>379316924
Wait till it hits live and you have to face decent opponents in real comp games. You will see.

>>379317096
I already do silver player, I already do.

>>379316143
Do you really enjoy standing behind Reinhardt shields? Dive is the first meta that is actually fun.

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>>379316980
soon hopefully

>>379317073
How else are you going to get hooked? You're not getting flanked by someone who sounds like 20 feet of steel chain getting kicked down an elevator shaft are you? Whenever I get hooked, I immediately know I fucked up. It's a dumb mechanic, but it serves a purpose.

>>379316974
>No one has the capacity to punish someone for bad positioning like hog
Snipers were made for this. Roadhog doesn't punish bad positioning, he right clicks Reinhardt barriers until it breaks then right clicks more killing whoever was behind the broken Rein shield.

If getting killed by Roadhog means that you had bad positioning, then getting damaged ever means you have bad positioning. Roadhog has more than enough range for the maps in this game.

>>379315116
A very poor design, look at roadhog without his hook.

Incredibly large target with no shield/armor.
No mobility
Weapon damage is very high, but is crippled by massive rng scatter, fall-off damage, low ammo and low firing speed. All of which makes his sustained DPS very low.
Healing is strong (300HP=half his HP), but 2 second animation makes it impossible to use in actual fights.

>>379317303
nahh most road hogs just walk the fuck in get their free kill and the team fight is over already

>>379317341
>Gee I wonder if this shield with cracks is going to break soon
>Wonder if I should plan to get cover and not stand next to the Rein like a retard and get pulled

>>379317181
>this faggot pretending new hog is viable

kys lying cunt.

>>379317359
none of what you said is true, learn to aim and judge distance better, you can point blank kill without the hook and at the right distance the right click can one hit kill,stop being shit

>>379316314
Literally why I jumped back into TF2. For all of its mismanagement it still plays better than Overshit, and it's much more entertaining for the loadout variety and random things like the "You were killed by" ragdolls.

No skill-less panic-button stuns, no ults, better maps, better characters, no whiny teenage faggots checking your comp history on your profile and throwing an actual hissy-fit when you don't have any...

>>379317568
Roadhog demolishes Rein shield, you can't be backing away forever and need to push the point eventually. And there Roadhog will be waiting with a hook to punish you for your "bad positioning" ie. wanting to not just pussy outside of a choke the entire fucking game

>>379317672
stay mad that you actually have to try now in your kids game silver shitter

>>379317678
What I said actually is true, hence the changes on the PTR.

Increased firing speed + more ammo to shore up his major weakness.

>>379317568
>oh I guess I won't stay behind the rein shield
>oh wait I have nowhere else to go because basically anything within line of sight is """"bad positioning""" to hog players

>>379317834
oh no now you'll have to hit them a whole 2 times to get a kill

>>379317972
I am not arguing whether he deserved the nerf or not.


I was simply stating he is a feast/famine character whose balance hinges completely on the hook, which is not good character design.

>>379317941
don't bother, roadhog players don't even know what actual bad positioning means, they just say it whenever they need to defend him even if it makes no sense in their context

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Hook was fucking stupid. Wow congrats hogfaggots you can aim the same as anyone else here's your free one shot. Get bent.

I don't even play Hog but if you'recomplaining about his hook you're a fucking pussy. It doesn't need a nerf.

>>379318131
well if you're going on that argument then no one should play this game, it's a mess of shit ripped from moba games without understand what makes those ideas balanced

>>379306685
Reminder Hog can still 1-shot 200Hp heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON4Buv-1aZ8&

>>379318197
no you're right, it's his damage output

>>379306685

Roadhog is fine, he just requires teamwork now. The real reason behind the rework is to ensure that Reaper would be used again.

Reaper is going to tank-killer/close range monster since he is a vampire now. Reaper Beyblade is going wipe out teams.

>people still play this game
>people are this compassionate about competitive in this unbalanced shitfest
what happened to playing vidya for fun?
Blizzard cannot into balance for their lives, and it really shows in this game
Can't wait for 76's bullet damage to be changed AGAIN in the next 5 patches

>>379318173

The thing is they don't need to aim the same as anyone else. It's the largest projectile in the game by far, about as big as hog himself.

>hurr nobody gets 100% hooks

Anyone with a clue will get ~70%, show me any other hero with projectiles where even garbage players can get anywhere near that accuracy.

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>>379318491
holy fuck what are the hog mains even complaining about then?

>>379315116
Both. His whole design is just dumb, he's the definition of low risk high reward. His hook has a range of 20 fucking meters and it's so fast that it's basically hitscan. So you either stay 20 meters from him or behind a shield, otherwise you are fucking dead without any chance to escape or counter him.

Why is he low risk? Because Roadhog is the strongest fucking hero in 1v1, his only enemy is teamwork. So he can stay with his team while getting easy kills from 20 meters and if a flanker tries to get him down he'll miserably fail because it's impossible to kill a fucker with 600 hp and a self heal in 2 seconds, like you do with a support.

>>379306685
>Overwatch
>main
Good riddance.

>>379312206
McCree has a hard time dueling snipers.

>>379318703
Oh fuck off, there isn't a SINGLE fucking competitive game with more than 10 characters where every single one is perfectly balanced. Not even TF2.

Hell OW is heaven compared to League of Assfaggots, where out of 140 champions only 10 where usable at the time and every patch characters where nerfed into uselesness or buffed into must picks. Hell OW isn't even that bad, some pro teams even used Sombra, Torbjorn and McMeme.

>Hanzo can one shot 60% of the cast
>Perfectly fine
>Widowmaker can oneshot 60% of the cast
>Perfectly fine
>Rein can oneshot 60% of the cast
>Perfectly fine
>Roadhog can oneshot 60% of the cast
>OMG WTF BLIZZARD PLEASE NERF HE'S TO STRONG PLEASE I DON'T WANT TO PICK ZARYA I WANT TO PLAY GENJI PLEASE UP BOAT MY REDDIT POST ABOUT WHY ROAD IS OP!!!

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I had fun with roadhog. it was relaxing and funny to see fags get mad cause of how simple he was while you try your hardest with some gay flanker class and get /v/irgins mad.

>>379308232
>weak against dive
>the one character who counters literally every "dive" character by just one shotting them no matter where or when they jump in

This is some elaborate bait

>>379319047
That's how I feel and felt when ASSFAGGOTS players and smashfags started using "main"

>>379319568
>Hanzo and widow require basic human reflexes unlike the hook
>Rein takes a massive risk going for a charge and will die even if he lands it if he plans it badly, unlike hog who can just hide behind a wall and try again in a few seconds

>>379318857
That they actually have to click 3 things instead of 2.

>>379318597
Am I the only one who doesn't know about any of these balance changes? Can someone link me?

>>379319427
>OW is heaven compared to League
yeah, and burning rubber smells a lot better than shit
I haven't played this game in over 3 months and it feels great to not be hostage to its bullshit anymore
as an added bonus, all of my friends stopped playing it so I don't get pestered to play anymore
this hopefully isn't a thing anymore but fuck the deathball meta and fuck ana outclassing every other healer

>>379315116
they literally need to copy makoa
because he isnt as poorly designed

>>379319568
hanzo and widow don't have 600 HP and are very easy to kill with any other dps worth a shit not only that they have no objective push ability
>>Rein can oneshot 60% of the cast
what the fuck are you talking about? his fire strike is easy to dodge, his charge is easy to dodge as well it also leaves him open as fuck and is extremely high risk, even his hammer cannot one hit kill at the distance of roadhogs 20 fucking meter hook or his right click which is twice the distance of the hammer.

>>379317834
>Increased firing speed + more ammo to shore up his major weakness.

How? People have down the Math and Hog has less DPS on PTR than on live.

>average 70%
You're so fucking stupid it hurts

http://overprogress.com/rating/Roadhog/Hook+Accuracy

>>379320937
you>>379318820
you're stupid

>>379319568
>people are well aware scatter is dumb
>widow has to actually snipe
>rein's charge is like a slower, more dangerous hook
>roadhog can oneshot most people and facetank a hanzo dragon

>>379320536


This. Makoa is so much fun to play.

Cute too.

>>379312369
Are we talking about Widowmaker?

>>379310709
You just included Mei and are therefor wrong. Update this trashy comment.

>>379320141
>Hanzo and widow require basic human reflexes unlike the hook

Scatter arrow is just as easy as the hook to land you dumb faggot. but it has even more range and can hit around corners and shit.

>Rein takes a massive risk going for a charge and will die even if he lands it if he plans it badly, unlike hog who can just hide behind a wall and try again in a few seconds
Thats why you chase hii slow ass down and kill him when hes vulnerable you stupid cunt. if blizzard keeps listening to shitters like you the game will be dead soon enough.

>>379320818
his weakness in reference to my earlier post is lack of sustained team fight capability.

Sure the damage is lower, but it smooths out his play-ability. Missing isn't as painful for hog, and 20% more ammo is huge, way less time reloading in a sustained fight.

>>379315952
I played StarCraft 2 for years at a high level and can confirm they did a fucking shitty job of post release balancing that as well.

>>379322205
Mathematically he has to reload more now because his gun has 25% more capacity, but he fires 30% faster, so you're going to empty it slightly faster than you could before for less DPS

>>379322205
Great so they made him less unique and more spamy, just like everyone else.

>>379321176
When the chinese knockoff is done better than the actual character you know something is very wrong

Seriously guys I can't find these changes listed anywhere someone hook me up

>>379320372
Yeah but again faggot, name me a multiplayer competitive game with more than 10 character's that's perfectly balanced. Tier lists exists everywhere, from Fighting games to MOBAs to fucking Pokémon. None of them was ever perfectly balanced. And again OW is much better than a lot of them every fucking character is viable until master and even there there are countless off meta picks.

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>People happy that he's being nerfed and saying "ur just salty lmoa"
>People explain why they're wrong and give examples and even post data from the PTR
>"LMAO GET FUK'D BRAIN DED RETARD YOU CAN'T ONESHOT ME ANYMORE xD"

I don't even play Roadhog, but it's so fucking easy to see how salty you fucks are feeling vindicated that they nerfed an irrelevant character.

>>379309308
Post content

>pick roadhog for the first time ever in 3v3 lockout
>rape all three enemy players in one clip

He needed the patch badly, get fucked shitters.

>>379323315
>every character is viable until master
Yeah, as long as you have Reinhardt, Ana, and Zarya on your team you can win any game
Balanced

>>379308538
Depends. Does PC Overwatch have unique shit like TF2 hats or skins or something? You could easily sell the whole account to some dumbass who would just trade to his account anyways.

>>379310973
If only braindead silver retards cried about hog and hog isn't allegedly used at higher levels of play, it stands to reason that the only people who main hog are silver retards who can't pass as anything else :^)

>>379324296
>char designed for 1 v 1 is good in 1 v 1

kill your self you fucking moron. Will you complain about ana or solider as well now?

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>>379323735
This
Since when has being even the slightedt bit upset about something invalidated any point you make?

>>379306685
Titanfall 2.

Its completely mindless and since theres apparently no matchmaking you can solo carry like fucking lucifer. Its everything a online fps should be.

>>379308232
>WAAAAH I HAVE TO USE ACTUAL TEAMWORK NOW

gg ez. Get fucked

>>379324957
people use him in every rank but only the shitters on the blizzard forums complain about it, like you you daft faggot.

right now they are crying about diva being weak and asking for a parah nerf.

You idiots who dont understand the game are going to ruin it because blizzard are catering to you casual crybabies.

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>Roadhog mains complain about the nerf even though the combo will still kill anyone that's not a tank

I do think they should change the hook cooldown back to 6 seconds, but otherwise the change is fine.

>>379308473
im so fucking out of it

i thought that last one said:
cup size increased 4-5

>>379325219
Roadhog is supposed to be an assassin, not a displacer or whatever. He has no barrier shields, no armor, HE DEPENDS OF BEING ABLE TO QUICKLY FINISH OFF ENEMIES he has dragged towards himself otherwise he is DEAD. roadhog isn't meant to be a fast paced hero. he is meant to be a slow, bulky ans a big target. him firing faster ruins that.

and he shouldnt kill hes a tank is bullshit. By that logic, soldier shouldn't have healing cuz he's not a healer, genji shouldn't have deflect cuz he shouldn't be able to absorb damage, zenyatta, mercy, lucio, symmetra, and Ana shouldn't be able to deal damage because they're not dps, mei shouldn't be able to do damage cuz she's not dps, pharah shouldn't have knockback because she's not a zoner, Reinhardt shouldn't have firestrike or charge cuz he's not a dps, torb shouldn't be able to throw armor cuz he's not a support,

Lemme point out something.
All tanks have a job of reducing or absorbing damage. Tell me then, why you don't just completely ignore the tank? Because all tanks have to be a threat of some form. Roadhog with his hooks, dva with her zoning, Reinhardt with his stun. There needs to be a reason to attack them. Getting rid of roadhog's damage isn't only killing his damage, but his TANKING capability, which is LITERALLY HIS JOB! Roadhog's hooks were the reason you wanted him dead, the reason you wanted to fight his healthpool, but if you take those hooks away, no one's gonna pay attention to roadhog. He's literally not impacting the game in the slightest.
(if he hooks an Ana, Symmetra, Mei, McCree, PHarah) or if he can't one-shot them he might never get that 2nd shot because they either teleport/fly/blink away or sleep him or similar.

*Burst damage "instakill" Heroes like Roadhog and Junkrat have an important role countering regenerating Heroes . Bronze plebs git gut and stop bitching about roadhog, these people are the same who have horrific positioning and terrible gamesense.


he is uselsss now.

If you can't learn to avoid the hook, you deserve the one shot death you get. 20% pick rate, welcome to your new of 0.2% pick rate.


lmao gg blizz

once he uses his hook, hit or miss, he pretty much can't do SHIT for 16 seconds!

oh, he can heal! but you are a headshot jamboree if your trying to do it mid fight to save yourself for any reason

and... THATS IT!
his ult just pushes shit away which works against edges and getting shit off the point, but you almost aren't going to kill anything with it if you needed to.

As a main cant wait to use new him in comp. Spam right click for days

>>379326376
Yes, avoid the hook coming from the side or behind you while you are in the middle of fighting.

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>>379308232
so mad

>>379326203
>>379326376
>>379326723
>>379327009
Thanks for supplying an argument I guess but why did you split up your posts lime that

>>379306685
rip fagget. take your mains back to lol.

>>379327568
>slow character with obvious audio cues with no movement powers flanks idiots, idiots can't see how they're being dumb

>>379306685
thats what you get for playing overshit
>any blizz games post wc3
>good
lol

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>>379321560
>Thats why you chase hii slow ass down and kill him when hes vulnerable you stupid cunt

>>379326376
>learn to avoid the hook
Are you retarded by chance? The hook is almost hitscan and the hitbox is disgustingly huge.

Even when I can predict the hook It's impossible to move faster than it. Even with Soldier's sprint

>>379308575
GM rank here
Yes hanzo needs his scatter arrow ability COMPLETELY reworked, road was always bullshit and one-shot sniper classes don't really belong in Overwatch.

>>379325220
sucks to be you faggot play a hero that takes skill :)

>>379319334
Why do you say that? His peace keeper is like a mini sniper, plus with his combat roll, I think he can handle snipers pretty well

More importantly, when are they buffing Pharah? Dying in one hit is ridiculous.

>>379306685
Dont worry OP everyone in this thread who cheers for the hog nerfs is the same kind of bronze/silver shitter blizzard balances their game around

Meanwhile players at diamond or above know that hog was mid tier and these nerfs will literally make the character unpickable trash.

I mean i dont even have hog in my 5 most played characters, but anyone with half a brain should be able to see that the changes as they are right now are overnerfing a character that was at a perfectly balanced spot.

Soon they will probably also nerf hanzos scattershot even though the hero literally is a bottom tier pick, because shitters cannot deal with the concept of getting punished for positioning mistakes.
But even if they remove all the oneshot skills these players will still stay in silver. It doesnt help them, it only limits the choice of character in higher level play even more than it already is.

>Roadhog doesn't have a OHKO anymore

brb swimming in salty tears, this is the right timeline boys

>>379328825
You will find something new to cry about either way

>Overwatch
Literally casuals first shooter.
I'm holding out for QC, while not optimal it is the best thing since tf2 gameplay wise.

At least until the new unreal actually get's some fucking traction.

So... Why should roadhog do more damage then reaper?

>>379329539
Because he's a one man apocalypse

>>379329539
lower fire rate, smaller clip, longer reload, larger target, and he lacks any evasion/movement abilities

>>379308396
>mccree is very good now

What? Mccree is nigh-useless right now, many people consider him to be the worst hero on the roster currently

>>379329778
More reliable heal, more life

>>379330380

Mccree is balanced as fuck. He is perfectly fine.

He hits hard and has hitscan attacks but goes down easy.

His ultimate ability is powerful but you have a decent shot at countering/avoiding it.

Mccree is a sharpshooter classes that requires accuracy and postition above all else.

The problem is that Easy 76 does his job but has better mobility and speed (S76 is the most broken hero right now, the slight damage nerf did nothing)

>>379330659
If they nerf 76 any further than pharmercy will shit on the whole game in every single skillbracket

>>379307863
What skin is that? Looks nothing like Blackwatch Mcree.

>>379329539
>>379330506
REAPER STILL HAS THE BEST DAMAGE bar none. he has 8 quik shotgun shots.

roadhog just has great burst as well.

He has high damage but is balanced by

>no mobility
>huge hitbox
>loud as fuck
>slow firing and low ammo

hes fine now and bizzard killed him for no reason.

>>379329539
reaper has higher damage per second and hog has higher damage per shot
I don't see the issue

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>people playing RoadHog actually have to think now instead of mindlessly pulling the same gag over and over again

What a travesty

>>379317090
except mccree has more range than 76

Is Reaper viable yet?

It's going to be funny when blizzard admits they fucked up with this roadhog nerf.

>>379308452
we're not autistic enough to play Genji

fattys for life

>>379331113
no.

>>379330865
>needing mobility when you can hook

>>379330865
Everyone was just picking Roadhog over Reaper, don't act like right now they are the same.The pig is much stronger

>>379328413
Depends on the range. A widow can take 4 headshots on Gibraltar in some distances.

>>379331230
>>379331224
if reapers teleport wasnt so slow and shit for no reason then he could easily be the flanker he was meant to be.

>>379327602
because im not the other 3 posts

im >>379326723

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>>379306685
You're free to play better games now pick your poison fagot:

Paladins- Makoa
Battleborn- Galt
Gigantic- Wu
Paragon- Riktor

>>379330805
>>379330805
what if they made mercy's jump not as low CD?
shit, you can't do anything to it really without making it absolutely useless

over 150 hours of road hog here dont play anyone else. My anger of this nerf from blizzard giving into all the crying babies will only make me stronger.
prepare your asshole for my whole hog

>>379331718
Just nerf pharah into the ground keep mercy as she is.

Doesnt matter if solo pharah isnt really OP, she is cancer and annoying to play either way, so there is no problem with her becoming bottom tier.

>>379306685
Now you know how McCree player felt after FtH.

I feel like reducing his damage by 33% is a bit over the top. Doing 20-25% instead with a 20% increase to fire rate might be better

>>379306685

Good, make sure to kill yourself while uninstalling. Roadhog shitter.

>>379332649
>Still would out damage flankers
Nah, pig needs to be put back into the pen.

>>379306685
I'd recommend R6 Siege but seeing how you are an OW fanboy I'd rather you not come over

>>379332649
If you take into account the extra shot and fire rate increase, they actually buffed Hog's overall DPS. That paired with the hitbox change will increase his survivability.

20-25% damage nerf would do pretty much nothing to the hook combo, which is the thing they're trying to change.

>>379333234
Wouldn't it be better to just reduce his hook range? It would force Hog to move closer and make it easier for people to react to him.

>>379333470
They would have to lower the speed as well since it's 40m/s right now.

>>379333470
I personally prefer that the hook would be a tool to get people out of position, like pulling Pharah out of the sky, rather than be an guaranteed death sentence to almost anyone at X range.

The PTR change gives people a fighting chance, even if it's slim.
I mean, you can still kill anyone with <400hp with the shoot, hook, shoot, melee combo, so I don't see why you'd want the range to be nerfed instead.

>people saying roadhog a main will now have to think and use their brain and aim
>meanwhile mercy mains get free tickets into masted and beyond despite sucking dick figuratively and literally

Mercy mains are human garbage. Go a more useful healer.

>>379308232
tfw main junkrat and don't have to worry about this

>>379334121
If the character would be this useless they wouldnt end up in master right?

You are kinda contradicting yourself with those two statements.

Either the character is useless and doesnt contribute or it is strong enough to get weak players into masters.

Well what is it?

>>379331718
pharmercy combo was never a problem before that mercy self regen buff.
now you can't kill mercy if you don't kill her in a burst.
before the buff, it's not an issue at all.

>>379334326
The character is useless and doesn't contribute. Where's the contradiction? Everyone else just has to carry their sorry ass especially ana mains, I feel bad for the extra workload put on them. Especially because with a mercy you go into a team fight planning to lose and then hopefully getting a second chance, which you can still lose, instead of going in to win every fight.

>>379332618
Hey, how is down there in bronze?

>Daily threads that Roadhog was broken
>Now there are daily threads where Roadhog is too weak
Make up your mind guys.

>>379334620
If they character is useless and doesnt contribute they would loose more than they win and thus not get to masters.

Players who dont pull their weight wont rise in SR

>>379307146
this, it has problems with netcode and performance right now but the actual gameplay makes any other fps that is popular right now look laughably casual

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>baited for these exact responses

>>379334646
Did you miss the part where i said that i dont think that solo pharah is OP?

I just said she is antifun to play against so i wouldnt mind if they just trashed the character.

E.g junkrat is obviously underpowered but is just as annoying to play against and would be top cancer if he were meta

>>379324803
why are you in here to shitpost if you don't play the game, or the very least watched the gameplay and know how the fuck it works.

i fucking hate you shitposters that have nothing better to do than to shitpost in a thread that have absolutely nothing to do with you.

>>379334646

Phara is ruining all skill groups and the game in general, not just bronze.

>>379334812
That also means it wont survive in todays market if it isnt casual

>>379334760
It's a team game so that's not true. You get sr if your team wins. Jeff made that pretty clear, even with the extra mmr stuff being calculated.

>>379335107
But your teams wont consistently win if you dont pull your weight.

Whats hard to understand about that?

>>379334927
This. She and Roadhog are in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME. Started at Diamond and trolled down to Bronze and nothing changed, always her, Mercy and Roadhog. And since they fucking nerfed Soldier she's even more OP.
Yes, I said OP. Compare aa shitty Phara to a shitty Sombra or a shitty Genji, who would you prefer in your team? Phara has no skill ceiling and is completely overpowered when compared to other heroes.

>>379335372
Teammates can do enough to get mercy mains into masters, then they become dead weight because the enemy team is way more coordinated. You end up with a player who should be in plat, playing in a masters team dragging then down. When they drop to diamond they just carried back up and it repeats.

>>379335945
I should play mercy more wtf

>>379317303
>standing behind rein shield when he decides to firestrike
>hooked by hog, dead instantly
Hog punishes anyone who is within 20m and less than 400 hp
He also has one of the highest shield break in the game with his right click. He will be more balanced after the ptr goes live, only dipshit hog mains who can't play anyone else are mad. He can STILL one shot the 250hp and below heroes, so what's the problem?

>>379335945
>implying theres a difference between masters and bronze
have been in both, theres literally none. its just about grinding and getting lucky with the teams. in a game where you have so little impact on the outcome of the game a skill ladder like the one present right now shouldnt exist. why should player x be punished for losing the game when he had an attack torb on koth or some dude decides to give up after 1 round?
in csgo you could carry/kick that fag but not in overcuck, and thats why rank only indicates how much time/sanity you have to grind out some cuck-coins

>roadhog punishes bad positioning

can you redditards stop posting this meme all the time? Roadhog does not punish bad positioning. He forces you to have bad positioning. He zones out everything in his line of sight.

He is just badly designed. Displacement with no damage is already insanely powerful. The ability to oneshot ontop of it is not necesarry.