If Konami decided to do another Metal Gear spin-off or attempt

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It's already too late anon

ACID 3 BABYBEEEEEEEEEEEE

Take Kojima back.
Make a public apology.

>>379274224
I wish I could have been at the staff meeting where this move got approved.
Making a game nobody wants is something I'd expect from Capcom more than anyone else.

>>379274016
stop calling it a franchise, it's a videogame series

>>379274471
>We're sorry for firing a talentless money hemorrhaging has been

>>379275210
>literally firing their biggest golden eggs laying goose and best, remaining & known AAA IP, ever.
welp...

>>379274016
I wouldnt mind a carbon copy of MGSV with different maps.

>>379274016
>>379274343
Ghost Babel remake
Acid 3
Rising 2

Any of these 3(or preferably all of them) would go a long way towards restoring my faith in the series.

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>>379274016
Drop the stupid shit like smoking monkeys and gay ninjas. Focus on political commentary (not social shit but actual politics) and break ties with pretty much all established lore. The series needs a reboot bad. Don't ignore what's there just go in a different direction. No Snake, no Meryl, no Patriots even. There has to be more but Kojima was too busy sucking his own dick to ever explore it.

Oh and refocus on stealth.

>>379275780
who is that pixel qt

>>379274016
I'd really enjoy a decent set of minigames.I know it sound weird but I loved the VR missions and the off the wall objectives.

>>379275376
Kojima kept taking more and more time with each successive installment, ending with a 5-year dev cycle for MGSV. No publisher on earth would be willing to put up with him after that, especially since he doesn't bring Rockstar sales

>>379274016
Hire someone to take the ideas and design doc for MGSV, cut it down to something that's feasible to develop, replace the keef with a voice actor they can afford to have speak more than two minutes of dialogue(here's a thought: David Hayter's probably available), restore codec conversations, add dynamic events to the open world so that the game actually has a fucking reason to BE an open world, and finish the fucking game.

they should sell that franchise to western devs.

>>379275815
>Drop the stupid shit like smoking monkeys and gay ninjas
Awful idea. It's like you want to turn it into Splinter Cell or something.

>>379275376
Except they are still going to make them dummy

I heard if you post "TPP: Act 3" or "Silent Hills" 3 times, it summons the melted sugary ones.

we do need a ghost babel remake though.
Dat Black Arts Chamber that had jack shit to do with big boss was top tier!

>>379275815
>>379276206
>>379276209
Stripping everything unique from MGS and turning it into another generic realtistic military game would be the worst thing ever. Fuck Western games

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>>379274016
Only way I would be interested is if Tomokazu Fukushima came back to write, it's pretty telling that the Solid series wasn't Kojima's ideas alone when it came to the narrative.

Also, it's funny you posted that gif since Ghost Babel was the highest rated entry in the series and Fukushima wrote the entirety of it.

Outside of a new entry, I hope that the HD/Legacy Collection gets ported to current gen and PC. This year is the 30th anniversary for the franchise after all. Needless to say if that's all Konami plans on doing, that'll be the last time they get my money.

>>379275646
Take all the assets they have, remake the stages from Metal Gear 1 and 2. Toss in some cheeky cutscenes, content that takes advantage of the open world environment and proper boss battles and I'll buy it.

>>379276209
>>379276404
Don't you dare defend that smoking leather diaper wearing piece of shit

>>379274343
>>379275764
Ac!d 3 ain't ever happening; 2 flopped and Shinta Nojiri is long-gone from Konami.

Main character is Solid/Liquid/Solidus/Grey. Plot takes place before/after/around/together with Metal Gear 1 or 2.

>>379276513
>Tomokazu Fukushima came back to write

He has a cushy job with Sony Japan Studio, so it's highly unlikely he'd ever want to go back to Konami.

>>379275815
>Drop the stupid shit like smoking monkeys and gay ninjas.

Okay, I'm dow-

>Focus on political commentary (not social shit but actual politics) and break ties with pretty much all established lore. The series needs a reboot bad. Don't ignore what's there just go in a different direction. No Snake, no Meryl, no Patriots even.

That sounds terrible.

>>379276641

One more time before the sugary ones arrive and ruse our dreams into schizophrenic memes

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>>379276747
>He has a cushy job with Sony Japan Studio

What, really?! The yakuza didn't disappear him?

How does this sound?

>MGS:3 remake in the fox engine with the lessons of future MGS titles behind it
>It's a not a flat out 1:1 copy
>Time Paradox happens
>Something causes the game to split from the normal timeline
>The end title screen goes from "Metal Gear Solid 3" Metal Gear Solid: Reborn

This or just make an EVA or Ocelot game or series that explore what they was doing during the Snakes story

>>379275815
>Focus on political commentary (not social shit but actual politics) and break ties with pretty much all established lore.
Metal Gear only used the political landscape as a backdrop for its stories about a super soldier fighting super terrorists and Illuminati. You're pretty much asking the series to be a Tom Clancy novel otherwise.

>>379275920
Her name is Chris Jenner.

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>>379274016
We had a good run, mostly great games, some mediocre ones, a movie. I'd say let it die with some dignity, or whatever dignity we have left after MGS V and all of those lardasses who were postponing suicide to play it.
Remember that, /v/? Remember all the stupid, embarrassing shit you post sometimes, you attention-deprived fuckwits? Honestly, I hope every single one of you dies screaming for posting shit like that.
I hate this place so much I wish I could hate it to bald.

>>379274664
But the marketing research shows that kids love "survival", "crafting" and zombies.
I mean it's dumb, they're out of touch, and they missed the Minecraft/DayZ bandwagon by a good four or so years, but in a way it's not surprising in the least.

>>379276930
He works in their promotional division now and was credited as a system planner on Rain and Freedom Wars.

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>>379274016
The real Metal Gear fans love
>MG-MGS2
>Ac!d 1&2
>Ghost Babel
>maybe Revengence
Kojima fans love MGS3+

A new Metal Gear game by Gearbox, written by Anthony Burch.

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>>379276989
>MGS:3 remake in the fox engine

Please stop.

>It's a not a flat out 1:1 copy

Okay...

>The end title screen goes from "Metal Gear Solid 3" Metal Gear Solid: Reborn

Alright, that's interesting but what's it now about?

>or just make an EVA or Ocelot game or series that explore what they was doing during the Snakes story

Sounds kinda pointless and lame honestly.

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>>379275780
Chris a qt

>>379277093
Pfft, I never postponed suicide for MGSV.

I was waiting for Mechwarrior 5.

Then they got sued by Harmony Gold and it went in development hell.

Then MWO happened and I hated it within a month.

Now PGI's saying they're going to make a single player campaign and it looks horrible.

Sometimes I think maybe I did off myself 8 years ago and I'm living in a grognard's hell.

Battletech looks alright I guess.

>>379276025
I don't get where this "Kiefer was super expensive" meme came from.
Hayter has explained it himself that he would've been more expensive for Konami.

>>379276025
You know they hired Kiefer for pennies compared to Hayter right? the Union forces some kind of contract where each successive appearance as the same character requires a higher payout, so if I remeber right they paid Kiefer 500k but if they used Hayter it would have cost millions. That and when Kiefer actually had lines he did a fine job, I think he suited the character pretty well. Also lets face it Hayters last run as snake was pretty bad, almost a caricature of himself somehow.

>>379277169
but what if i love 1-2-3 and think everything after is complete shit anon? what then? ( 3 is the best one)

lol whats a konami code

>>379277146
I just looked that up, apparently he's doing QA also.

Thanks for the info, I tried looking him up almost 2 years ago and found nothing.

This also makes me lose hope for Konami ever doing MGS justice after TPP and I'd rather the series just stay ended outside of Rising 2 or remasters.

>>379275764
>tfw they canceled Rising 2 and Platinum was there left awkwardly trying to come up with an excuse for showing a 2 in Rising's font

>>379274016
Solid Snake's Sneaking Suit is just the best, so beautiful
Not like that bastard child we got in V

>>379274016
Literally just put all the old games in the mgsv engine and I'll pay a hundred bucks per game

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>>379277169
Your post is fine except
>MG-MGS2
>Kojima fans love MGS3+

Lemme fix that for you
>Kojima fans love MGS4+

See the image in>>379276513

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>>379274343
Ac!d2 revealed to me the joy of digital collectible card strategy games and card packs. Plus, it had cards for nearly every Kojima related thing. Boktai cards, I loved it.

>>379277364
MGS3 is the start of the timeline so the idea is to pull off a Kojima styled ruse by rebooting the series from there. Maybe Volgin gets killed by Ocelot or EVA and one of them try to take control of the Metal Gear then Snake and Boss has to team up to stop them or worse yet, we spot Skullface and XOF working in the background during the mission

>>379274016
Find Fukushima. Free him from the clutches of the yakuza. Give him a tight but generous budget and say that you want something in the vein of MGS1 through 3.

Boom, insta hit.

I know he only worked on codec calls and vaguely helped Kojima with the main plot, but Ghost Babel is fucking amazing (not to mention it feels like MGS, the same can't be said about V for instance) and as far as I know Kojambo had nothing to do with it.

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>>379274016
It would have to include
>Liquid
or
>Grey Fox
Kojima said that he regretted killing Liquid off in the first game because he was a great villain. Konami would never go for those two characters to spite Hideo.

>>379278274
Do I need to play Ac!d to enjoy Ac!d 2?

>>379278274
>Played it late when my PS2 died so I couldn't get the MSG3 cards
Fuck

>>379278257
>Lemme fix that for you>Kojima fans love MGS4+
Ah, thank you, Anon. That let's me love 3 without remorse. It might have led to the series ending up... Well, like that. But by itself there's nothing wrong with 3

>>379274224
Why is there so much emphasis on the second V there? what are they trying to tell us?

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>>379278471
That actually sounds neat.

But if you wanna get to the real pivotal moment that changed everything;

>Volgin never fires the Davy Crockett.
>The Boss' mission continues as the original plan.
>Naked Snake never has to hunt down and kill the Boss.

Now the question is where do we go from here since Naked Snake doesn't become Big Boss?

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>>379278801
No, I sure as heck didn't. Not because I didn't like it or anything, it was just during the golden hacked PSP era and I didn't want to download the ISO for 1. But to answer your question even clearer, Ac!d2 is a self-contained story with very little reference to 1.

>>379278859
Tell me, do you dislike 3 because you feel it prevented Kojima from going further into MGS2's route of player fuckery, being even crazier than that? Do you feel robbed of that?

>>379276005
Square Enix

>>379278471
>we spot Skullface and XOF working in the background during the mission
No thanks. The retcons to 3, not just the "Naked was being assisted" part, but the "The Cobra Unit was actually not-nanomachines" is something I'd like to forget

>>379279224
Fuck no, I liked the gameplay of MGS2 and the idea of Raiden being a normalfag stuck in batshit crazy scenario but the Patriots shit was garbage

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>>379278823
>It might have led to the series ending up... Well, like that. But by itself there's nothing wrong with 3

MGS4 was what fucked up the overarching narrative.
>MGS3 support team were the Patriots all along
>Ocelot was just pretending all along
>Meryl and Akiba (Johnny)
>Solid was killed off just so Kojima could wash his hands of the series entirely
>Kojima was forced to do MGS4 in the first place by assblasted MGS2 haters and the higher ups

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>>379278859
>he doesn't like MGS3, when it was MGS4 that ruined the series

>>379279881
How can you use commas on filenames?

>>379279047
We flesh out Major Zero as a villain. XOF makes a play for the Legacy. Now we have the supersolider war. We have Boss' Fox vs Zero's XOF, we have Skullface pop up later in the new series leading a split off group of XOF

The sons of Snake have the Boss' DNA added to them

>>379279381
XOF is a slap in the face of players but it works within the over all theme of MGSV, Big Boss is not really that big and legends are rarely true. The parasite thing I liked but I can take it or leave it

>>379276513
>19 reviews vs 68
yeah thats a fair comparison

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>>379276747
>Yfw Fukushima lends Kojima a hand in Death Stranding and its end up MGS Trilogy good

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>>379280180
You mean quotation marks?

Just use double apostrophes.

SNAKE VS MONKEY SPIN OFF GAME FUCKING WHEN YOU GOD DAMN KIKES!

>>379280987
They should bring back the translation people from MGS1 also.

>>379276747
>Both the masterminds of MGS are at Sony
why dont they just buy the series already

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>>379280510
>We flesh out Major Zero as a villain. XOF makes a play for the Legacy. Now we have the supersolider war. We have Boss' Fox vs Zero's XOF, we have Skullface pop up later in the new series leading a split off group of XOF

That's fucking neat, also that spoiler is great too.

I like this, I'd be on board with "MGS: Reborn". But it needs a better title:

Metal Gear Solid: Redux

>>379280768
Didn't notice that, but fair point.

Point still stands since Fukushima's absence from the series took a toll on everything that came after MGS3.

>>379279381
Yeah, if they reboot the series, I hope that lame piece of shit Skullface has nothing to do with it(or anything else from V for that matter).

>>379281893
i think that also had to attribute to the fact that Kojima was officially done with the MGS Story with 2, MGS3 was done because he always wanted to do a prequel, he was practicly forced to make MGS4 and everything after that is just the result of Franchising

>>379274016
Platinum.

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>tfw you actually enjoyed MGS4

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>>379274016
It can't be done without Kojima, not because of his incredible ideas and writing talent, but because of his complete lack of them.
He has no concept of tone or pacing, he doesn't understand moderation, his writing is a convoluted mess that you need a flow chart to keep track of, and for those reasons his games are unique and entertaining.
It's like if you gave Tommy Wiseau $80,000,000, he wouldn't have a clue what to do with it, but you can bet the result would be spectacular.
You can't simulate that, you can never achieve the '"monkey in Y-fronts drinking beer while a gay vampire and a robot ninja fight cow robots" effect.

>>379278830
You guys have been wrong about this ruse shit for what? Three games now? Let it go

>>379274224
I actually want this if it's like a 40 dollar game that I'll buy when it's lowered in price.

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>>379274471
>>379275210
>>379275376
Konami never fired Kojima it was just a publicity stunt that you will see unfold soon.

>>379283101
trip on caramel

>>379275815
>We need an edgy and realistic reboot with none of the main characters!
Fuck off, your ideas are bad and you're retarded for suggesting a formula that has never worked.

>>379282162
That's also true, but I honestly think in some alternate reality where Fukushima never left and Kojima was still at Konami, we would have gotten a proper sequel to MGS2 after 3.

If not that then maybe MGS with an entirely new cast, maybe only Raiden remains and is the new protag.

Either way, Metal Gear ended with MGS3.

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>>379283223
Not even caramel.

I believed this before he even appeared on this board. You will see this E3 and nonbelievers such as yourself will be BTFO eternally.

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>>379283440
>shitposting with a dead frog

>>379274016
>survive is made
>hated across fans and critics
>konami will realize what they've done
>they'll make a prequel of the boss
>made to be a faithful metal gear, return to form
>that's what fans want
>it'll come out
>Its good
>but just good
>it works, is fun, but bland and hits all the generic quotas
>nothing special, sells alright
>konami gives up on the franchise other than mgs3 remakes

And that's how metal gear will die

Just let it go anon

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>>379282298
That game was so forced with everytbing, especially conflict resolution

But kojima wanted that series to be done since 2 so he went all out on unnecessary shit and I love it.

>>379282761
Please don't support konami

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>>379274016
Metal Gear Rising 2

>>379283603
>buying a MGS game without Kojimas name on it

L O L

>>379277169
>Ac!d 1&2
Acid 1 is trash. Nobody even talks about it aside from the fact that they did the Venom twist years before MGSV. I heard Acid 2 is better, but never got around to play it myself.

>>379283770
I'll buy Revengeance 2 and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

>>379284247
If I could get only one Metal Gear game made, it would Revengeance 2. Please Konami, if you're willing to make a shitty zombie spin-off that nobody asked for, you can at least give us this

>>379275815
I agree.

>>379275376
A goose that lays golden eggs is no good if it's got an appetite for golden scrambled eggs.

I would play a mission on the same universe but not with the same characters.