I hurt myself today To see if I still feel I focus on the pain

>>379257825
>dat feel when only thing I know about Evolve is that its writer has a Youtube channel where he talks about roleplaying

Daisy is still best girl.

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>>379257978
>implying

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>>379258164
>>379257978
>implying

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>>379258246
>>379258164
>>379257978
>implying

I really liked playing Evolve, but performance anxiety drove me away. I'm such a little bitch, I hate myself.

>>379258837
The constant idioticy on all fronts killed my mood for the game. It shouldn't of been like this. What sort of horrible alternate reality did we step into?

Game felt empty. It was really repetitive too.

No wonder why it failed on release...

AND failed when it went free to player a year later.

Same thing will happen to Antimatter's other game, Rising Storm 2. Feels good and cool for the first hour, but then it gets really boring.

>>379259213
>It was really repetitive too.
What do people keep meaning by this? Isn't every game technically repetitive by nature?

>>379258837
>>379258980
the main problem with the game was that it was almost impossible to balance. the skill cieling for hunters was far too high compared to any of the monsters due to their cooperative nature, but if you make them too easy to play then the monster players just get shit on too hard. the other problem was the fact that far more people wanted to play monster than hunters and so the playerbase dwindled rapidly due to elongated queue times because of leavers.

>>379257825
dont do that

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>hunters too strong at high lvl
>monster too strong at low lvl
>shit SP content
>badly balanced hunters
>new hunters were reskins of old ones
>everything designed to alienate new players
>unoptimized and unplayable on low-end systems

hmmmm i wonder why it flopped

>>379259213
this one had a wonderful start when it went F2P but devs just didn't give a shit. they kept balancing for the 0,1% of the community while ignoring the other 99,9%. Literally all forum feedback was from veterans and about veterans

>>379259435
the game always had a meta and almost every match would play out exactly the same. the only times the game played differently was when you got a game that was 100% new players.

>>379259616
>they kept balancing for the 0,1% of the community while ignoring the other 99,9%. Literally all forum feedback was from veterans and about veterans
What the fuck? I distinctly remember the opposite. They kept pandering to people who never played more than 2 hours.

>>379259435
It means that you do the same stuff again and again. No variation. No challenge. No thinking.

You basically follow the monsters steps... throw shield around it... then everyone just shoots at it... rinse and repeat.

That's all there is to it.

>>379259623
And that doesn't apply to other games, how?

Sorry, I'm not into games for the "meta", I'm in them for the gameplay, which is probably why I was so sour about this one imploding.

>>379259616
they could have buffed hunters with a little more health or more dashes and nerfed the satellite thing to just give a ping on the map with a longer CD.

>>379259723
Again, doesn't this formulae apply to other games as well?

>>379258837
>tfw I waited for this to come out
>I watched all the dev streams
>know the name of all the wildlife
>know which npc enemies give what perk
>know everyone's skills and abilities and try to be aware of how to help them with my set up

Finally get game
>people trying to hard to convey which monster we're fighting
(it's literally shown at the beginning of the game)
>"help, there were like these things with arms that are attacking me" instead of a simple "reavers grabbing the medic, fall back and help."
>complain about wraith, constantly shooting the decoy despite it flashing with each hit to show you
>"domes are too hard to throw"
>what's Daisy do again?
>tyrants removed
>tfw I would initiate a wraith Stage 1 ambush fight around a tyrant, tyrant killed two, I killed two

>>379259712

not really. they made some changes to make the game more fast-paced, smoother and easier but they were extremely minor in practice and felt forced. Things like nerfing Wraith a little bit because of player outcry but without making any real impact on low lvl matchups.

They never bothered with making ranked and competitive play less impossible for all the F2P newcomers so nobody bothered trying to get into it. Everyone was playing "normal" games instead.

And they kept nerfing hunters even though new players had trouble with all monsters, because veterans couldn't handle the new hunters. Some hunters literally lost all of their usability after 5+ consecutive nerfs.

I loved this game. I hope other developers pick up this concept, but execute it better.

I've always dreamt of a game where YOU can be the boss and Evolve fulfilled that dream. You start of weak, but get stronger and stronger. Meanwhile there's 4 little dudes going after you and have superior mobility. Kind of feels like an Attack on Titan game. Big, strong monster versus weak, fast and mobile characters is just an awesome concept. Now my dream game is pretty much Attack on Titan with 90+ players per server and the Titans are player controlled.

>>379259616
F2p's gameplay was arguably weaker than the original game's.

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>>379259616
>new hunters were reskins of old ones
That's not true, but a lot of the Trapper abilities became obsolete when they changed Trapper's skill from the dome to "point at the monster"
Daisy's useless, Sound Spikes are useless, Tracking Dart is useless, Crow's bird is useless, Jack's Satellite marker is the most useless of all.

>>379259901
No, it doesn't.

And that's why people are still playing very old multiplayer games today.

Let's take Left 4 Dead for example. Why was it good? It's simple. Because the zombies never came from the same place. They would always try to pick you up that one moment where you would be alone.

It was fun, because every game was different. There was an effect of surprise, and a challenge to overcome.

>>379260107
Tracking dart were good, the rest were alright but daisy just had no function in f2p where every hunter was twice as fast as that dumb AI

Did you know that Evolve was originally Metamorphasis?
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/the-development-of-evolve/23975
2k fucking butchered what this game could have been, had THQ not gone bankrupt.

I liked this game but they seriously fucked up by only balancing around competitive play.
>only play monster
>stomp new players
>get stomped by veteran hunters because they literally stop you from being able to do anything if they catch up
>for some reason they thought it was a-okay for 99% of the community to get stomped every match

>>379260301
But it's still "move from point a to point b whilst shooting at some zombies while a marginally more difficult zombie is spawned"

>>379260302

>>379260302
>Dumb AI
Uh, Anon? At the beginning of the game's launch, the AI was frighteningly smart. It was the players who were fucking dumb; considering daisy could be growling at an AFK monster and players STILL GO RIGHT PAST THEM.

Maybe a monster hunting game like evolve would work better if the humans had special powers ala prey instead of just guns and tech (which is always underwhelming unless its a mech like natural selection 2)

>>379260385
That's why I said f2p anon

>>379260437

Or if it was a purely co-op game and hunters were more underpowered with more realistic abilities instead.

oh wait I forgot, they fucked up that thing as well. Evolve's last SP mission before shutting down was boring and linear AF

>>379260385
F2P daisy is nowhere near what launch daisy was. F2P daisy only followed the monster's tracks, whereas launch daisy took you straight to it. F2P also stops if nobody is within 10ft of her.

>>379260536
>purely co-op game and not having the playable boss, which is the game's biggest draw

4v1 was a mistake.