F-fuck you Nintendo. Support this 15 year old game while we

>>379233217
> Why is the party game community so autistic?

I mean it'd be like Street Fighter fans sticking with Third Strike.

Because they like it? That said, Nintendo doesn't owe them shit in regards to support or re-releasing Melee to newer platforms or anything like that. So that community can get fucked if they are so jilted to not see that Nintendo doesn't give a damn about them.

>>379233682
>I mean it'd be like Street Fighter fans sticking with Third Strike.

No it'd be like the 3S fans screeching at Capcom for not caring about it after SFV has come out.

Juan Debeidma::
>Listen, we’re not supposed to be this friendly old esports community, we came here from the gutter ourselves. We can say whatever the damn hell we want
You came from comfy GameCube local co-op not the harsh drug ridden arcade scene you retard.
>my parents bought me a GameCube, four controllers and that makes me from the gutter
Fuck off.

>A certain company that acknowledges us but refuses to push us, I hope you’re listening right now, because I want you to hear this, I want you to hear the amount of people who support this league, the amount of people who want this to be a lifestyle for people. This is not just a video game, this is a lifestyle
Good for you, said company is not here to support your lifestyle. How many Melee tournaments have been closed by Nintendo's ninjas?

Fuck off Juan

>>379234428
>Third Strike team hated their game so much they tried to make SFIV as different and casual as possible to punish people that liked it

>>379234461
>How many Melee tournaments have been closed by Nintendo's ninjas?

I wish nintendo would crack down on melee tourneys being streamed again.

Sakurai:
>This game isn't meant to be taken at a competitive level

Everyone else:
>WHY WON'T NINTENDO TAKE THIS GAME SERIOUSLY FUCK YOU

>>379234754
>I wish nintendo would crack down on melee tourneys being streamed again.
This.

>>379234667

>no source

ok cool

>>379233217
This is the same community that had a person drop out of a competition because his controller wasn't broken in a certain way, right?

>>379235319
Yes, the Melee community's "gods" will not participate unless they have a MECHANICAL advantage over everyone else.

>>379235384
>>379235319
What? What's the story behind this?

>>379235596
There's certain techniques that's too complex to pull off normally and requires the controller to malfunction in a certain way

https://pastebin.com/37vmuSgx

From Shitaku

>>379233217
Do Meleefags really want Nintendo to support them? They've been doing just fine without their help.

>>379235596
The 'elite' players of melee have broken controllers to give them a competitive edge, one of them could not use/get a replacement broken controller so he refused to play.
See >>379235898
They REFUSE to play if they can not cheat.

>>379235596
>Smash player uses special controller with a defect that allows him to perform a special technique easily.
>Before competition tries to find a similar controller to partake in the competition.
>Can't find one so instead decides to drop out of the competition.

it's not, it's just hbox. He's an autist and every time he wins he sperges about something

>>379236041
>uses special controller with a defect that allows him to perform a special technique easily
Aka cheating

>Melee '''''gods''''' need a 3 hour massage and a 3 day psychiatrist session before the tournament before even THINKING of competing

>Need a VIP room with perfect oxygen levels, must never exceed a decibel count of 10 and to be fed food a la Grapes of Luxury trope.

>Require coaching and diaper changes after each round.

>Controller needs to undergo rigorous testing by official Melee controller technicians and NEED to be heavily modified to compete or they will not enter the tournament at all.

I wonder why Nintendo doesn't support cancer?

>>379236141
Is Smash the only community that pretends that bugs and exploits are "Legit Competitive strategies"?

>>379236440
At this point it's better to separate Melee from Smash

>>379235898
>>379235969
>>379236041
And these people demand to be taken seriously?

>>379234757
Sakurai doesn't understand the concept of death of the author

Hes such a smug arrogant piece of shit

For all the faults Capcom has, at least they support the scene & go still claim 20 years later that SF2 was never meant to be competitive & combo's are a bug

>>379236632
Not only to be taken seriously but also funded by Nintendo despite Melee being 16 years old and making no money for Nintendo.

>>379236639
>he believes in what internet posts about Sakurai

>>379236639
>death of the author
That's not a real thing, it's just what retards use to defend their misconceptions and personal shortcomings.

Also he is a Game Director, not an author. Why does Nintendo need to support these autists lifestyle 16 years after launch?

>>379233217
Seems like a good guy
Not sure why they want help from Nintendo is not like they need them

>>379236810
he probably still clings to the "do you make game" statement without a hint of irony

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>>379236632
Don't forget anons.

>>379235898
Imagine the rage of autism if the competition made them use fresh GC controllers only.

>>379236931
Do you have the picture of the guy saying "Soap combos into water" or some shit like that?

>>379237016
Better yet, imagine if they weren't allowed to use mechanics that took advantage of exploiting the game's engine, like wave dashing.

>>379236931
Maybe they should have people with bottles of air freshener go around spraying the smash players who smell bad. And people with sticks to beat them.

>>379237016
That would be great, Nintendo gives them support but forces new controllers to be used.

>>379233217
Why not just play Project M?

>>379237258
F

>>379233217
>archive link

Thanks. Why is that so hard for everyone else on this board?

>>379237258
Because Nintendo doesn't like it

>>379237392
>nintendo doesn't like emulation/piracy
You don't say

>>379237258
Hungrybox does play Project M. His speech probably covers that game too, but more focused on Melee because it is bigger and doesn't have legal tape around it.

>>379237176
Nintendo hosted torunament with >>379237176 idea and a re-released version with all those broken mechanics patched out.

He's right though, and this isnt just about melee its about the smash scene as a whole. Nintendo would gladly put ads on the streams and force fangames to stop development behind the scenes/force them off the most popular streaming site to kill them without giving a formal c&d but to host/fund tournaments or provide setups is too much for them.

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>>379237157
Never mind, found it

>>379234667
For the love of god, stop perpetuating this. Sakurai did not sit in his studio cursing those skilled Melee players then cackling and rubbing his hands upon realizing how he'd sabotage them. He's gone on record saying that Brawl doesn't feel as good to him as Melee, but that Iwata actually wanted it to be playable on a Wiimote, which, like it or not, makes sense--the Wii had a much higher install base than the GC, so tons of people didn't have GC controllers, and can you imagine playing Melee with a Wiimote? Then Brawl sold zillions and got mostly positive reviews, so the series went further in that direction.

Nintendo doesn't have disdain for the competitive scene so much as indifference. They made the games from day 1 to be a fun, chaotic game to be played with four people at once with items on, so of course they acknowledge the competitive scene but don't support it, and of course they don't mourn the loss of the dedicated Melee players.

To be fair though, with esports getting huge and Melee drawing as much attention as it does, one could argue that it would in fact be in Nintendo's best interest to try to recapture the hardcore audience. I'm not here to put forth any opinion or argue though.

>>379236931
Even Mango looks like a fucking homeless bum, the Smash community needs to do better

>Back when Smash 4 came out and Nintendo was trying to get more publicity for their new game by helping out with prize pools and some equipment for Smash 4 only

We don't need you Nintendo! We've done just fine for 15 years! We're grassroots, that's what makes our scene so beautiful! We're special because we've been playing the same game for all this time! The creator hates us so we hate him back! Get out of here!

>The scene somewhat stagnates, same winners every time, not enough new people coming in due to the requirements needed (old videogame, controllers, crt tvs, younger people just don't have the nostalgia or care about it anymore)

N-Nintendo, why have you never supported us? We need you, why have you always neglected us? Please make Melee HD to keep us happy! Help out with prize pool and publicity!

>>379237185
>gdq does this
>guy starts his own speedrun marathon and fucks off to a completely different country
whatever works

>>379235253
I think that he was trying to say what if Capcom did what Sack of Rice did to smash.

>>379237673
Is this true or just a meme? I've never been to a major.

>>379237812
Melee players especially smell

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>>379233217
Is Melee by far the most cancerous and autistic community in video games? Remember that games like League and Dota 2 came out after Melee.

>>379237570
>a re-released version with all those broken mechanics patched out.
Imagine how much shit the Smash community would flip if they got their wish for a Melee re-make, but they had to play the game like it was intended.

>>379237812
meme

>>379233217
>>379234461
As much as I hate HBox, he's right, the smash scene never needed or received Nintendo's approval or acknowledgment, so censoring shit to their standards is retarded. Melee and to a lesser extent Smash 4 are what they are due to the players. They took the checkers board Nintendo handed them and played chess on it.

Also, you faggots sound even more autistic, complaining about a community you aren't part of on chinese cartoon board.

>>379237812
I used to go to VGbootcamp on Smash days the smell was terrible. Now I only go for SF/Others days. Still see people that don't bathe, but its more plentiful during Smash.

>>379237957
>They took the checkers board Nintendo handed them and played chess on it.
No they took a party game and made it competitive.

>the smash scene never needed or received Nintendo's approval or acknowledgment
So why are they all so butthurt about it?

>>379237258
Not enough money in it.

>>379237386
They don't get paid that way.

>>379237957
Hungrybox please go.

>>379237957
>They took the checkers board Nintendo handed them and played chess on it.
More like they took the game of Monopoly and played chess on it instead.

>>379237893
Capcom should patch out combo's from SFV, since it wasn't intended

>>379238075
HBox was butthurt about VODs being deleted and people censoring themselves to uphold some Nintendo family friendly image. Other fighting games don't do that.

>>379238005
The FGC nights it's pretty decent; only had 1 guy at a monthly that attempted chemical warfare. But oh god I was there once during Smash at Xanadu and it was terrible.

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>even autistic /v/irgins are more aware and less pathetic than smash fags

Imagine being so lame you're not even wanted on /v/.

>>379236440
Depends. Plinking in SFIV is\ a glitch, wavedashing was in MvC3, and technically combos in SFII were unintended as well.

Granted, one could argue that Melee players see their glitches and exploits as something other or "more" than that, if that's what you meant.

>>379235898

Honestly, it's kind of insane (in a cool way) that people give so much of a shit about optimizing a 15 year-old game that they consider ridiculous shit like making controllers malfunction to get an edge. At the same time, yeah, that's a clear sign that the game is well past its peak in terms of competitive evolution and it's time to move on.

It's be cool if for Smash 5 Nintendo made an attempt to unify the Melee and Sm4sh communities with a game that combined the best aspects of the two, though I don't know exactly what that would look like. But would the melee scene be interested in moving on to any newer Smash, no matter how melee-like it was? I'd say maybe, but it would require the prize pools in the new games to eclipse the melee ones by enough that Hungrybox, Armada, etc. gave it a serious shot.

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>>379237673
Ruthless

>>379238298
They already have Project M.

>Give me free money for playing smash

that'd be nice, but lol

>>379238298
Meleefags hate Nintendo, they'll never buy Smash 5 even if they gave them what they want.

>>379234851

Why though? Nintendo is a shit company and everyone knows it. They are like disney. Cute face but practically the definition of evil. They wanted to leech of of 14 year olds putting up fucking videos of mario bros for God's sake. Yeah those 14 year olds are cringy as fuck and need some parental guidance but some shill at nintendo wanted to actually take advantage of children.

Wake up you faggots. nintendo sees you as a fucking walking sack of gold and nothing else.

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>>379238298
Tried it
Sorta Failed
Melee fans are too stubborn to move to a different game unless it is 100% like Melee.

>>379236931
Even though i hate the smashfags and their over inflated sense of worth this is actually a problem with alot of fighting game/convention crowds.

>>379237957
Don't you have a shower to avoid?

>>379238298
That's pretty much what Project M was trying to do.

>>379237853
Tr4sh players*

>>379238215
I like FGC night, but last I went, it was only GG with like 1 setup for SF5, also didn't help that they also rose the price up too. I was thinking about going back after the release of T7, but I want to wait awhile and shape my skills before going there.

Also if you do go to FGC night often, the nigga with the one eye freaks me out. Not in the sense that he has one eye, but in the sense that one day is gonna shoot up the place.

>>379238435
>Wake up you faggots. nintendo sees you as a fucking walking sack of gold and nothing else
>Wake up you faggots. sony sees you as a fucking walking sack of gold and nothing else.
>Wake up you faggots. microsoft sees you as a fucking walking sack of gold and nothing else.
>Wake up you faggots. valve sees you as a fucking walking sack of gold and nothing else.
>Wake up you faggots. apple sees you as a fucking walking sack of gold and nothing else.

So, what you're saying is that companies want to make as much money as possible off of their customers? Holy shit, thanks for the wake up call Captain Obvious

>>379238353
>>379238536
>>379238589
PM had problems with counter picking & the "pro's" didn't want to learn multiple characters & match up's

the truth is they just want Melee but also want to complain

If they wanna keep playing that old turd nobody is stopping them.

I dont see the issue. Nintendo did their job back when they created the game that they like playing so much.

>>379233217
well, he kinda has a point, maybe
just wait what will Nintendo do, their Switch reveal trailer showed at least a E-sports-scene

>>379238562
Protip: if there's one smelly nigger in a packed venue, it stinks up half the place. Two or three is all it takes to make the whole place smell like BO.

None of the top players have hygine issues, it's always random literal whos. Smash does attract a disproportionate amount of smelly literal whos though.

>>379238435
Couldn't have said it better ourselves. Keep fighting the good fight, anon.

>>379238716
Are you implying any of those companies jew you as hard as Neokikeshitendo? Even after the bullshit with Amiibos, selling you literal unfinished products at full price (splatoon, ARMS), and don't get me started on the Cuckshitch paid online scam.

Shitendo is the most pure evil company in the industry, and they need to be stopped so that gaming can be more safe from corruption.

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Post things that trigger Meleefags.

>>379238707
Well, SFV is kind of dead and GG has always been the local flavor. As a GG player I love it though.

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>>379239095
>tfw I shower twice a day but still smell like shit because I can't kick smoking

>>379238986
>none of the top players
Literally how would you know that? Get the fuck out HungryBox no one likes you.

>>379239205

Oh, what if you stopped smoking? I bet that would help!!!!

Can I be forgiven for quitting Melee and picking up Tekken?

>>379239296
Damn, never thought of that. Thanks bro

How is Project M not a worthy successor to Melee?
I know it has faults but many great sequels still have issues.

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>>379239095

>>379238589
>>379238536
>>379238353

Project M wasn't an officially-sponsored thing and thus was effectively dead when Nintendo started actually paying attention to the competitive scene. Not quite the same thing as an official game that tries a similar thing.

Meleefags are the autistic fucks who keep playing RTS games when MOBAs are around.
Meleefags are the retards that keep playing 3S or USF4 when SFV is around.
Meleefags are the paranoid idiots who still use XP or Windows 7 when Windows 10 is available.

Don't enable these manchildren who can't get with the times.

>>379239095
just insert a picture of Brawl or For WiiU/3DS

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>>379239205
smelly AND weak willed

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>>379239095

>>379238929
That e-sports thing was for Splatoon, yes they are pushing Splatoon as an e sport instead of Smash, even though Splatoon was just FOTM & Melee is still going strong after 16 years

>>379239125
I like GG, but I'm nowhere near the level of any of the people there. I almost get perfected everytime I play. I somehow managed to make it to the second round of a tournament after going into practice and "learning" Potemkin in 10 minutes but proceeded to get fucked by a May.

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>>379237957
>censoring shit to their standards is retarded

they are censoring it to the CURRENT sponsor's standards, not Nintendo's

fucking Microsoft sponsored a Melee tournament this weekend, you think they want F-bombs everywhere?

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>>379233217
new F zero when

>>379237893
>Switch release of Melee
>Switch doesn't support wired controllers
>all exploits and bugs are patched out
>Latency of modern screens over CRTs
>Sakurai personally rebalances characters to deter competitive gameplay
>stock mode removed
>item toggle removed
I would love to see the reactions

>>379239371
So? If you don't have Nintendo's support why do you care?

>>379239436
RTS is better than MOBA
3S & USF4 are 10x better than SFV
10 is better than 7 & XP though

>>379239246
You would get called out really fucking fast for having poor hygiene as a top pro. In any scene.

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>>379239095

>>379239562
After your death, hopefully.

>>379239524
Just tell people you're new and they'll generally go easy on ya and help.

And yeah, Angryblack plays locally and his May is evil

>>379236440

In Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, there was guard breaking. I'm not talking about what happens when your guard meter breaks, because there was no guard meter.

In as simple terms as possible, there was a mechanic where if you normal jumped, you only get one action and then you're vulnerable until you land. That includes blocking, so if they normal jumped, and you jumped and hit them and they blocked it, then landed before them (either through a down air dash or just a bad jump on their part), they would be left wide open to anything you do.

Well, when you lose a character or your point character gets snapped out and your next character comes in, they drop into the stage in "normal jump" state. So if you had someone like Cable, when their guy is just appearing on the screen, and you normal jumped and shot them with your Fierce, they would block, you'd land, and their guard would release, and you could TK Hyper Viper beam them to death if you had 3 bars. Cable is the most notorious example, and there was other characters who could abuse this.

This game has all kinds of janky shit like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0rc_Q0Cuyo

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>>379239436
>people are THIS mad that they refuse to go to the shitty sequel when the old better game is still around

>>379239436
i think you should have sex with your mom and then go kill yourself

>>379239505
I know, but I doubt that Splatoon will be the only game, what they are gonna push as E-sports game, maybe they will push Smash in the future too then (not Melee tough).

>>379239486
that's what I meant in that>>379239462 post

>>379239729
When you have no counter for an argument, just post a smug anime girl.

>>379239632
I have a silver controller and it honestly sucks. Way too stiff.

Yeah Nintendo, release it on a newer platform so we can see the same 10 guys play the same 10 guys with the same 10 characters for another 10 years. Oh boy I can't wait, I wonder how these matchups that we've seen dozens upon dozens of times will end this time!

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I honestly hope they release Melee HD but fuck up some detail that would never affect average players but would infuriate the Melee community and render it unplayable to them.

Melee is a great game. Competitive melee is basically at a point where it can't do anything else.
The melee community is one of the most insufferable groups of humans on planet earth.

>>379239436
>Meleefags are the autistic fucks who keep playing RTS games when MOBAs are around.
so, are RTS games too complicated for you?

>>379239727

I like the one where if you interrupt magneto during an air dash, he loses the ability to air dash until he jumps and lands again, so if you manage to lock him down he could potentially never air dash for an entire match.

>>379239346
Don't base your self worth on approval from random faggots on the internet.

Though for what it's worth you have my blessings

Project M kind of solved a lot of these issues Melee players are so annoyed with.

>>379239898
this desu, I bet the Meleers would get into a tism storm if they made wavedasing a mappable button

>>379233217
Good on the tourneyfags, they actually play enjoy Nintendo games but don't become shiteating drones. Take notes, /v/.

>>379239631
Yeah I'm sure your fellow autists smell your pits before you play.

Get the fuck outta here.

>>379239898
the best part is they wouldn't have to fuck something up, they'd do it by fixing an exploit or a bug.

I miss when /v/ used to get into it with the autists from smashboards. Especially that one loser with the goku avatar and the jacked up hands, topanga or whatever he called himself

>>379239980
Except the lack of money/credibility.

>>379240095
Do you have any idea how wavelanding even works?

>>379239898
>fuck up some detail that would never affect average players but would infuriate the Melee community and render it unplayable to them
That's easy, just patch out the "wavedash" bug and everyone would cry foul.

>>379240220

That's his point, and depending on how you respond to his response you could prove it harder.

>>379240261
>>379240220

>>379240216
That shouldn't matter.

>>379238298
No matter what Smash 5 turns out to be, if it isn't basically a 100% clone of Melee, Meleefags will decry it as terrible and continue to play their 15 year old game.

Why is Melee so boring to watch?

How does the Melee 'scene' even sustain itself at this point? Its the same group of players, the same viewers, the same metagame, what are these people going to do when they get too old to play this game.

>>379240216
What's the difference?

>>379237714
This. Melee players are simply autistic and celebrate their game as the perfect and irreplaceable second coming of Christ while simultaneously cursing the people who made it for not making a different version.

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>>379233217

>"This is not just a video game, this is a lifestyle.”

LGBTQM(elee)

>>379240479
Why do you think they want Nintendo's support and Melee HD so badly right now?

>>379234461
>harsh drug-ridden arcade scene
lmao dude are you for real right now?

>>379240315
The statement just doesn't make sense though because the poster doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>379240410
If Smash 5 improved on the formula without throwing the baby out with the bathwater, most people would certainly move to it. Melee would be dead as 64 right now if the retail version of Brawl played like PM.

I want Nintendo to announce Melee HD at E3 and that they've patched out all the bugs and glitches, wavedashing included.

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I think the real elephant in the rooms is that MeleeFags don't want a more competitive friendly smash as much as they want a plain as day sequel to melee in mind body and soul. They don't want smaller killzones, more hitstun, and more competitive options, they literally want melee 2.

The problem being that the melee competitive enjoys is built around a fraction of a games cast, played on a fraction of the games stages, and played in a way Nintendo for the most part never intended. Nintendo neither has the means nor the inclination to make a game that would appeal so highly to the melee competitive scene. They also don't really have a reason to sponsor the competitive scene for a game they haven't sold in two console generations other then trying to get people hype for the newer games. The entire melee scene lives its life sitting precariously on a cliff edge of existence, the gods want Nintendo to spend big money because they know realistically the melee scene might not even exists for another decade.

>>379240554
Why not just play Project M?

>>379233217

I want to tell you you're wrong, but I have no argument desu.

Sm4sh is pretty decent as far as mechanics go even if it's not as mechanically intensive as Melee, but these autismos don't even give it a shot. Even the most diehard SFII fan in its heyday still put time into 3S and SFIV ultimately paid off for everyone.

>>379233217
I know a couple of ST guys who bitch about a lack of capcom support but they're the exception and even then it's jovial.

Hbox is being unrealistic. Nintendo is a Disney of videogames; maintaining a specific image in regards to their products is more important than anything else. The melee and even smash 4 competitive scene does not fit that standard.

>>379240586

Have you never heard of a macro? You press a button, it does the series of inputs for you. If you're worried about directional, you can either hold the analog or map it to alternate buttons. It's honestly not that baffling of a request, and again, your response is EXACTLY the point of his post.

>>379236639
Sakurai is an author and isn't interested in avoiding designing a game according to his knowledge just to prove to people that he's killed himself as an author.

>>379238716
>being such so butthurt over a post that you take the time to copy and paste it 5 times in a row to drive home how angry you are

>>379240410
I mean yea. Brawl fucked us up in the head.

>>379238537

Yeah there's posts like this about any convention, used to see warnings about it for Blizzcon and PAX too. Some subset of nerds don't bathe I guess

>>379240627
because project m devs are biased and the game is stupid.

>>379240647
>Sm4sh is pretty decent as far as mechanics go
Not really. I find it mind numbingly boring and I'm a casual player. No shit they won't move.

>>379240627
Project M is dead, they know that it can't sustain and get a huge competitive scene going (at least as big as Melee and Smash 4 are right now) because of it's status as a non-official mod and the fact that it could always get shut down by Nintendo at any time. They want something official that can keep growing and maintaining their lifestyle and PM can never be it.

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Why do retards push the melee HD meme so hard? Do you realize how stupid Nintendo would have to be to make it?

>Sell smash for wii U/ 3ds for 60 and 40 dollars
>Assload of dlc sales, at least 45$ min to have a torney legal set up

VS

>Melee HD that Meleefags will discard if 1 pixel is different

Wow, I wonder what nintendo wants to invest in...

>>379240612
>The problem being that the melee competitive enjoys is built around a fraction of a games cast, played on a fraction of the games stages, and played in a way Nintendo for the most part never intended. Nintendo neither has the means nor the inclination to make a game that would appeal so highly to the melee competitive scene. They also don't really have a reason to sponsor the competitive scene for a game they haven't sold in two console generations other then trying to get people hype for the newer games. The entire melee scene lives its life sitting precariously on a cliff edge of existence, the gods want Nintendo to spend big money because they know realistically the melee scene might not even exists for another decade.
Beautiful. The first sentence especially; when you think about it, it's only a tiny bit of the game that they really enjoy, and it's pure circumstance that the game wound up "perfect"--how on earth could this ever be replicated? Melee arguably did have the best feel to it, but it would be impossible to create another Melee.

>>379240864
They can shutdown Melee tournaments the same way they can shutdown Project M ones.

>>379239095
Brawl is my favorite Smash.

Round two: that is actually unironically true.

>Everyone has forgotten about Dylan Tnga
Maybe I've been here too long

>>379240937
There's no reason for the melee scene to stop existing. They just want more money in it.

>>379240940
PM encourages system hacking and game modding. Both of these things are good, but Ninty is full of retard soulless japs.

>>379240925
Nah dude, their perpetual discontent and unwillingness to play a standard game makes them the ultimate choice for pandering to.

>>379238193
>Other fighting games don't do that.
But they do?

Do you even watch the competitive tournaments?

Only after hours streams and money matches and the like have dirty language in them.

Sponsored tournaments are usually all clean and professional.

>>379240479
>what are these people going to do when they get too old to play this game.

Considering the same motherfuckers have been playing this game for 15 years and don't even have enough dignity to shower every other day, I think they'll play Melee until they die.

>>379233217
>Gawker
>Game community
lol no fuck off newfag

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>>379241061
>/v/ used to shit up smashboards autismos for fun

>Giant melee threads on /v/ for every smash tourney now

Greatest evidence of a leddit invasion over the years

>>379241227
>people call rent free a reddit meme
yup....

Why are so many people who critique melee hung up on wavedashing? It seems like a bit of a weird thing when there are much stranger and more troublesome things about the game.

>>379241227
There was no 'leddit' invasion, just a fact that /v/ has been filled with the most retarded casualfags around and thankfully with Melee that shit has been changing.

Shortly after Brawl came out you were considered retarded if you kept playing Melee even though Brawl had some of the stupidest changes and mechanics around. Same shit happened with Smash 4 and if there's ever a Smash 5 there'll be a bunch of butthurt retards angry that people aren't 'moving on' and playing the latest shitty game that's released.

>>379241475
Go home, tnga

>>379241454
old memes and they don't actually know shit about melee.

>>379241475
lolyahsurebud

>>379241610
I thought Fox vs Fox on Final Destination was considered an old meme

>>379241542
Why don't you get good, casual?

Seriously, the day that /v/ coined the term tourneyfag and used it to complain about people being 'tryhards' is one of the most disgusting examples of how fucking casual /v/ was at the time. You'd have people on /v/ bitching about some asshole throwing Hadoukens in SFIV because they were being tourneyfag bitches. The original term was meant to target the fox only final destination dipshits but quickly got warped to mean anyone that actually tried or someone that actually fought during the various retarded taunt parties.

Why do people pretend Melee is a competitive game when all their tournaments are exhibition matches between the same six players holding back against eachother?

>>379240925
they literally wont touch it because modern systems have inherent input lag thats higher than what we had in the Gamecube era.
same with the reliance on modern TVs.

>>379241857
there's no issue with playing actual fighting games competitively.
making fun of people who do that for smash is absolutely fine though.

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>>379234461
>harsh drug ridden arcade scene

Fucking kek

>>379241857
tnga please

>>379241857
Everybody who knows what they're doing knows that anyone who can't win against a tactic they claim is cheap is a fuckin loser.

>>379241737
wavedashing l canceling are glitches is as old as fox fd.

>>379233217
>Party game
Is that what we're calling fighting games in 2017?

>being infuriated at Nintendo for not doing things they weren't going to do

Melee is a mental illness

to be fair to nintendo, I wouldnt support a scene that has had less than 10 people win a tournament in the last decade.

I mean he's not completely wrong, Nintendo doesn't owe them anything but aside from the game the community really doesn't owe anything to Nintendo either.

Kinda weird to call them out on such a weird way but that's Hbox for you, a faggot.

>>379241737
It is indeed old

So old, that Sakurai actually recognized it and pointlessly made a FD version of every stage in Smash 4

>>379242136
smash is not a fighting game

>>379242352
This. Melee tournaments are just a few serious addicts stunting on eachother and a bunch of starry-eyed kids idolizing them.

>>379239436
o-oh no! I promise to go tell all my friends to stop playing games that are older than 2 years so that anon-kun will think we're cool and with the times!

He can't swear because it offends the sponsors. Melee was never in the gutter. Melee HD is a dumb idea. If they remake Smash U for Switch I'm going to be pissed, gimme 5.

>>379242418
how so

>>379242493
It's too early to make 5, considering they would have to make every character again but also make new ones, come on Smash 4 has over 50 characters, the new one is either going to have less or about the same, let's just be happy with a Switch port with updated graphics and hopefully more non-shit stages.

>>379239205
Brush your fucking teeth then.

With the attitude most of them have where they seem to not give a fuck about anything I don't see why Nintendo would care to promote this old game VS the new one, being rude about it doesn't help.
its just game why u heff to be mad

>>379242493
>If they remake Smash U for Switch I'm going to be pissed, gimme 5.

They're going to do it anyways. Now that MK delux did so well every WiiU exclusive is going to get polished for a Nintendo system that's actually selling. I'd be surprised if smash 5 didn't come out later tho.

>>379239436
I really don't understand why these autists want to play old games so much. It's unnatural if anything, Smash 4 is the game that everyone should be giving their attention to, not Melee.

>>379242617
>Wanting a Switch port when MK8D and removing gamepad support from BOTW proves that Nintendo can't even manage to make Switch versions of WiiU games the definitive versions

>>379242617
No, you don't see the genius of it. You release smash 5 core which only has the starting roster of smash 64 and sell each dlc character individually as a code bundled with the new smash 5 amiibos.

>>379242716
this is absolutely retarded, people can't like or prefer older games because newer ones exist? what the fuck?

>>379239205
Buy better cigarettes.

>>379242695
It's obvious that they do give a fuck and desire Nintendo's attention and approval instead of just being happy hosting their own events.

>>379242772
What's wrong with MK8D?

>>379242617
Fine, then I want the tomodachi life stage. Also rainbow road, 2d mute city, magicant, arena ferox, and balloon fight.

>>379238716
>You are THIS much of a shill
The worse of the Nintenbros

>>379242716
Melee gameplay is still unmatched gameplay-wise on platform fighters, if you care enough go read on the subject but if you don't then just understand that you are basically asking Quake players to move to Overwatch, for example

>>379242907
>Lets add another drifting tier and double the items out at any given time on stages that weren't designed with these gameplay changes in mind
There was more IIRC, issues with the online and general game balance, bikes are maybe Wii tier again, games is a general mess from what I hear.

>>379239601
>Wooo this is shit, I'll stick to gc melee

Smash players are just the worst

Complaining about Melee fags is literally NeoGAF tier.

>>379243057
Holy shit I didn't realize there was a whole new drifting tier, that's tricky shit to add to a finished game.

>>379237442
Does neither of those.

>>379242969
I'm mad as fuck because the 3DS version has top tier stages
>Brawl Yoshi's story
>Corneria
>that Paper Mario stage
>Wario Ware
>Retro Mute City
>Brinstar
>Arena Fox
>Jungle Japes
Compared it to Wii U and I don't understand how can anyone fuck up that badly

>>379242792
They can like and prefer older games, but that's no reason to play it when everyone has moved onto a new game

>>379235898
>Though there are several sites that sell professional player-centric controller mods, they seemingly didn’t work for Lindgren
So there are solutions that don't involve an idiotic fixation on malfunctioning controllers and this guy was just autistic.

>>379243298
Plus it had a way better side game than the fucky board game we got on Wii U

>>379242617
This is about the time a Smash game's development cycle begins. By this time on the next year or two, it'll get officially announced. Over the year or so, information about the game will trickle out and then it will ultimately release. Brawl was announced in 2006 and released in 2008, 7 years after Melee. 4 was announced in 2013 and released in 2014, 6 years after Brawl. 2020-21 is when I'd expect 5mash.

>>379243309
But not everyone has moved to Smash 4, why move on if we can keep playing? This isn't like Capcomcuks that were forced to move to SFV when it's way worse than Ultra in every way except graphics

>>379243151
Yeah it goes to purple after blue now.

>>379243368
And Classic mode wasn't a piece of garbage.

>>379242418
A fighting game isnt a fighting game. 2017 is weird.

>>379243421
Oh, so you're one of the autists still stuck on SF4. Nevermind then.

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>>379240261
why do retards on /v/ continue to pretend to know what the fuck they are talking about?

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>>379243368
Smash Run isn't even good, you can't see anybody in the world and the ending mini games were shit.

>>379243456
>Caring about classic or adventure in a world where we have Master Orders and Crazy Orders

>>379236931
During my junior year of college I was living with the co-president of our university's Smash club. He somehow convinced the club to have their weekly smash nights at my apartment. Every Thursday night from ~5PM to 2AM there would be 20+ manchildren crammed in a tiny 600 square foot apartment. When you walked inside the building, there was literally a wall of stench that greeted you at the door. One of the most foul and horrific things I've ever smelt, and I had to deal with it the whole year.

`Pfft, Hbox didn't call out the real cancer.

The real cancer is Smash 4 and how Nintendo uses Smash 4 tournaments to shill their games, so everyone has to be "esports" 24/7. They support Smash 4 almost ironically, just to sort of throw a bone to the dogs. They do it specifically to shill and to control events. It's the reason that fucking jew GiMR killed PM so much, and everyone else that followed. Because god forbid PM exposes how shitty Nintendo is at developing cool shit in their most beloved series.

The games don't HAVE to be hardcore, tournament friendly only. Melee is just as good to play at a party and to fuck around, and it's better because you can tell how much they put into it. The goddamn ITEMS in Melee feel better than Brawl or Smash 4. There's no reason they couldn't keep some techniques in for new players to get motivated and learn their favorite characters better (even casual players like becoming a little better at the game, unlike what Sakurai and Nintendo believe).

The real callout is exposing how fucking lazy Smash is now, and how disconnected Nintendo is from the real world. Go ahead, seriously tell me that a Melee-like Smash 4 with official "advanced techniques" and better game physics and generally improved online experience wouldn't sell better.

Smash 4 died for casuals already, because the only thing that keeps casuals interested is the character reveals. The competitive scene is the one that keeps giving the game support, but they don't fucking care and that's retarded because they are, as a company, throwing away money because they don't wanna put even minimal effort into making their game slightly, SLIGHTLY less casual friendly and they shun the guys that basically expose Smash to the world with Melee.

>>379243469
>over 40 characters
>execution is not baby-proof
>non shit single player mode
>decent balance
>good defensive options exist

It's not perfect but Ultra is better than SFV, either prove me wrong or remain cucked.

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>>379240937
>but it would be impossible to create another Melee.

not really. amateur autismos made PM and it's fairly close.

>>379243631
You could have saved yourself the words and just admitted you were a meleefag in a single sentence.

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>>379243654
>non shit single player mode
>SF4
>non shit single player mode
>mentioning single player to begin with
fuck off nigger

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>>379243787
>le fighting games are online only who cares about muh single player
This is why the game sold like shit, but keep eating it, I guess i'm #LeftBehind now.

>>379243962
SF4 had fucking pitiful single player content fuck off you poser nigger you dont even play fighting games

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>>379234461
>harsh drug ridden arcade scene
>mfw bitches dig my bad boy cred that I earned down at the 'cade

>>379233217
Hbox is a clown, pay no attention to him

>oh shit I forgot to roll around the floor and cry after winning, better give a stupid speech

>>379244093
At least it had fucking arcade mode, that's at least something.

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This faggot does realize that, since Capcom does support the SF scene, that they aren't allowed to do the shit he's complaining about Nintendo not letting them do, right?

>>379233682
No one sticks with Third Strike retard. It's just hailed as a really good fighting game.
The SF Community always plays the current game, for better or for worse.

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>>379244196
>shitty cpu fights without a unique boss fight and five seconds of story bits
kill yourself asap

>>379243631
yea spot on

>>379244297
>still has not broken 2 million sales
Keep shilling for your shitty game, Combofiend, but you ain't fooling nobody. SFV sucks and anyone playing it instead of the other available options is a Capcomcuck.

>>379244297
It's a staple and they could have included it effortlessly. Nobody would have complained if it had zero cutscene or story. They just wanted to play a series of matches against computers that they didn't have to rig themselves.

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>>379244452
>>379244478
>still defending SF4s pitiful single player content while pretending to care about single player faggotry in fighting games to begin with
kill yourselves asap

>>379240436
Because there's only like 3 characters that are viable competitively.

>>379243057
> from what I hear.

so you havent played?

>>379239549
What tourney?

>>379244478
>it's a staple
It was also filler that only existed for lonely losers who didn't have anyone to play against in the arcade.

"Story mode" had the same function. And now they have their shitty cinematic story mode too.

>>379240436
I think it's fun

>>379244661
No I didn't fall for the Switch meme.
But I have seen the first two in action being shitty. Plus it doesn't take a genius to realize that fundamentally changing gameplay and not coursedesign at all would be a disaster.

>>379242617
>considering they would have to make every character again

They'd just import them from sm4sh

>>379238830
What matchups are pm pros like thunders and Sosa refusing to learn?

how many more years does melee have left?

>>379245360
It lasted this long so who even knows

>>379245360
However long it takes for Nintendo to miraculously make a Smash game in the vein of Melee again

>>379245360
Honestly probably until the hands of their competitive scene players literally cease to function, like how M2K is now.

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>>379245360
Meleefags will beat that dead horse for as long as they can.

I mean, Meleefags aren't going to live very long due to their poor hygeine and diet consisting solely of Red Bull and Cheetos, but you can bet until the day the last of them keels over. They'll be blaming everything that ever went wrong in their pitiful existence on a game dev from Japan who actually made something of his life.

>>379245360
>most recent tourney had the lowest viewership despite having most of the top players in attendance
this is its last year, sakurai finally won

>>379245360
Being this big? 2 years
To die forever? Like 5.

Either something will come out like it eventually or the community will lose interest but both will take a while to kill Melee.

>>379244868
the new boost is only usuable on like 1 or 2 parts of a handful of courses.

its not 'fundamentally changing gameplay'

>>379245360
Who knows, it may be infinite at this rate with how broken and flawed the game really is

Every time you think the game is figured out, one of the 8 autistic pros that consistently win each tournament unlocks some new level of autism that takes competitive play even deeper into the pit of scooby-doo and chocolate milk

>>379245812
>The new boost is unusable
>This is somehow better
>Please pay no mind to double the items flying around the courses
I would have honestly preferred a direct port over them fucking everything up.

>>379245640
There were two melee tournies last weekend, both having top 8s at the same time---viewership at one of them might not be the best indicator.

The actual reason why Nintendo won't support Melee because the Japanese Melee scene is fucking dead.

Just like it's Brawl scene. They are on Smash 5 and Nintendo can make money off of it better than past games.


If Meleefags want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Japanese Smashers

>>379245640
>global warming isn't real because it was cold last week
That said, melee probably only has another like 2-4 years. The competitive drive behind the community can only last so long, eventually there will come a time when top 100 players start retireing one after another and at that point melee as an international comp scene will die

>>379246102
>If Meleefags want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Japanese Smashers
Or they can just grow up and move on

Holy fuck this thread is a huge circlejerk.

>>379246143
Yes and maybe tomorrow we'll all wake up and the sky will be purple. Or peace will have been achieved between Israel and Palestine, or North and South Korea.

It won't happen, but wouldn't it be nice?

>>379246198
meleefags go home

>>379245937
how is it unusable?

and how does having more items affect course/game design?

>>379246102
Japanese smashers can't compete with the autistic white kids so they don't bother

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>>379246338
>How does having double the items on the course affect game balance
If you need this explained to you I'm not going to waste my energy trying.

>>379246369
Probably could if they tried

No white person alive could ever compete with South Korean Starcraft players

>>379246143
It's hard to move on when they hate the later installments and even past installments like 64.

Nintendo can't ever make money off of Melee like they can with Smash 4. That game is stuck back from 2 gens ago and people logging around CRY a because muh input lag and it's one of the main reasons why a port probably won't work unless it's fully accurate. And even then they'll use the PAL build of Melee and fix all the issues like G&W Shield, Kirby's throws and any crazy shit that will kiss off the pro players.

But the funny thing is, if they want the big money and payouts, they have to suck it up and play the newer version unless they'll be left in the dust

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>>379237673
Holy fuck wow lol

>>379245360
Not being at Evo Sunday will hamstring enthusiasm. It will decline from this year onwards.

>>379246115
>MUH CLIMATE
Liberal cuck.

>>379246338
Double the items makes the game even more of a total chaotic clusterfuck. There is CONSTANTLY shit flying at you.

>>379237812
true, at least for me at locals. they're the type of people you can smell when you're a couple feet away, and its the type of smell that lingers in your nose a minute later. And it's only smash too, since I never have a problem with that when playing SF or vampire savior. Hell the guys who play VS usually smell nice, no homo.

He's not wrong, Nintendo only used them as a way to advertise the new smash and then immediately stopped giving a shit about both of them by the new year.

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>taking a game actually made for kids very seriously
>claim it's your lifestyle

and I thought I was a saddo

>>379246774
I was making a comparison, even if you deny global warming the sentiment of "don't conclude global trends from local phenomena" should still make sense

>>379246774
>why worry about it when we wont be around to deal with the results?

Typical selfish conservative

>>379234461
I love how much you people like to play up what it was like to play in arcades

>>379233217
Juan “Hugbox” Debiedma

>>379247108
>I love how much you people like to play up what it was like to play in arcades
You never played at a lot of arcades.

>>379247170
>hanging out in places literally designed to steal money from children

lel

>>379239898
Wireless controllers and flatscreen latency is all they really need to get meleefags screeching.

>>379246416
It makes second and third place less of a stupid meme because you don't get fucked over by coins anymore

plus, double the shells to throw at first place, which is still very easy to hold on to because of the coin mechanic

>>379236639
>For all the faults Capcom has, at least they support the scene
And look where pandering to shrinking autist base lead them

SFv is a miserable failure rejected by both pros and normies only propped up by Capcom injections of cash with no return

>>379246102
>Japanese Melee scene is fucking dead

it's more alive than 64 or brawl is alive here. Crazy Hand is the biggest monthly that gets good amount of entrants.

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>>379236931
>tournament day is referred as stinky day

never had a chunk of food come out of my nose before

>>379247515

modern fighting games play on 1ms monitors, a HD melee wouldnt be affected. They only play on CRTs now because of the aspect ratio.

>>379247727
>And look where pandering to shrinking autist base lead them
most competitive game in the genre by far.

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>Dude what the fuck why do these people have standards? Why do they vote with their wallets and voice their opinions? Real gamers like me eat up any slop my favourite corporation shits out, that's how you support videogames you entitled nerds

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>>379247968
congrats to Capcom for being the biggest retard among the ruins

>>379247968
For the wrong reasons. The first reason why is because the mechanics are dumbed down so almost anyone can play leading to large tournament turn outs. Second reason is Capcom hosts official tournaments with large pot sizes. Many SFV pros have admitted they're only playing SFV because of the prize money. If it weren't for that they'd play something else.

>>379248427
>Standards
>Can't even bathe properly

All 3 Melee players are the most autistic people on the planet. So glad this shit is dying.

>>379248829
Those are some pretty good reasons and the right kind of support.

The pros are also full of shit because companies like NRS are giving out much more cash but nobody is playing that garbage.

>>379237258
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHH

DO YOU PLAY SHIT FLASH 2 AS WELL? CRUSADE? LMAO

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Honestly, at this point Nintendo would be better off just C&D'ing Melee tournaments, ideally coinciding with a revamped Smash4 for Switch that they'd push heavily.
Force them to move on. Sure, a lot of players would just drop Smash altogether, but the long term benefits would outweigh that loss I think.

>>379238537
Every convention I've been to has smelly neckbeards.
I probably smelled better than most of them and I spent half of it dancing around and sweating in a dumb Sonic mascot costume I found for cheap.

>>379249430
>C&D Melee tournaments
You can't send a C&D to people for playing an old video game.

yayuzz

>>379247765
Oddly enough Japan is one of the few places that 64 is still alive. It's probably their most relevant game since people south of the US border are winning all the Smash 4 tournaments.

>>379249685
yeah I dont know, maybe they could do some semi-legal bullshit.

>>379249759
We live in a timeline where we may have a ledge grab limit and wobbling is banned.

>>379235596
Look up Melee backdash controllers.

>>379236341
Actually Melee players only mafe a fraction of what SFV players make strictly because there's no support from Nintendo. Most of them can't get by from Melee alone which is why they all have to whore themselves out on stream.

>>379241061
Yeah, anon. Get out of this shithole.
People these days unironically make FIFA threads in here. /v/ is prob the most normie/reddit-filled board rn after /pol/ and /tv/

>>379237258
Because Gimr is a cunt.

>>379242772
Same for Splatoon with the whole "bring up the map on the screen" thing.

>>379244260
THIRD STRIKE IS THE BEST FIGHTING GAME EVER MADE KILL YOURSELF

>>379239354
Because you can't stream it.

>>379239354
Because the developers stopped working on it and the tourney owners are gigantic pussies who refuse to run any version that isn't the latest official release, so nobody wants to continue it.

I've been playing some Project M XP Legacy lately. Dat Ridley.

>>379249685

They could block it from being streamed liked they used to. That almost kept it from EVO until Triforce begged them.