BotW is still making /v/ cry floods and floods of tears 4 months

literally who?

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>>379223719
choose your poison

>>379223719
i want to protect those eyebrows

Who is crying? I only see you making these threads.

Nintenbros are desperate for their Bloodborne, their lynchpin game that makes everyone salty.

Actually I haven't played the game. Is there any reason to if I hate "open-world" shit? Because that's what the game seems to be about.

>>379224021
the first one, botw is good but not the best game ever

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>point out legitimate flaws with a game
>crying

No, nintenbros just cant accept that its overrated. It was the same with skyward sword, give a year and everyone will be in the "Yea BOTW sucked" boat

>>379224021
>Because journalists praise it
Nobody has ever said this. The score it got was just used to shut down the sony shitposters that were literally shitposting the game for months before its release, and hell, months after its release

pantsless grills wearing just a T-shirt is the patricians fetish

>>379223719
[boner: engaged]

>>379224494
That's a fetish like underboob is a fetish. Pretty pleb tbqh

>>379224643

t. low test beta

>>379224021
Like I've said this this pasta every time: TLoU IS a 10/10 for its genre, as a cinematic story-driven shooter and in the same sense BotW is a 10/10 as an open-world game.

>>379223719
>loved BotW
>first month we had god tier BotW threads

>3 months later, people can only make a BotW thread by shitposting for bumps

Why did the remaining BotWfags turn so cancerous?

>>379223719
>We've all beaten the game by now.
wrong
some of us just got a switch
I've only saved one divine beast so far.

>>379223719
Is she hiding her new dick and balls?
Female > futa/dickgirl tf is hot.

>>379224260
are you seriously comparing upscaled trailer footage with an extremely early alpha of the game from gameawards 2014?

>>379224885
>Why did the remaining BotWfags turn so cancerous?
it's more that shitposting is the only way threads survive on /v/, and even though most still loved the game, the hype and discussion has died down as those that got the game early will have completed it by now.

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>>379224140
But BotW is doing better than Bloodborne did and it's a better game.

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>>379224260
i'll bite.

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>>379224260

>>379224140
>Nintenbros are desperate for their Bloodborne
But BotW outsold Bloodborne, it was far better recieved.

BotW = 10/10
Bloodborne = 9/10

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>>379224885
I just noticed there was a lot of >B-BotW is bad I promise! threads today.

Also I tried to make nice threads for this game around april but they just fell off the catalog because nothing controversial was in my post.

>>379223719
Very nice image! Mind if I save it?

>>379225605
Too late. I already saved it. Better luck next time.

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>>379224021
fuck off

>>379225605
You can't. Unless you subscribe to Nintendo affiliated program.

>>379225586
their latest thing is to say the game's a mediocre 6 or 7/10 and that they got bored around 10 hours in. There's also a notorious samefagger who occasionally posts pics of his save in cemu, quite easy to spot since he repeats himself a lot and their hearts and outfit in his screenshots don't seem to really change.

>>379224260
I wonder how many retards actually fell for memes when the actual graphics looked like this:
>>379225401
>>379225489

Seriously though, not even normal shitposters put in as much effort as those did to slander botw. The whole ordeal proved to me shills exist on /v/.

>>379224260
why the fuck did they remove the goat herder?!

>>379225605
I saved it and then dropped the image in the recycling bin. Now nobody can have it.
Gotta be quicker anon!

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>>379224821

>TLoU IS a 10/10 for its genre, as a cinematic story-driven shooter
Anon, please. Your shitposting meter is gonna break if you pull out bait this massive. I mean seriously.

>story isn't even that good, it's barebones hollywood fluff that wouldn't pass in a B-movie at an indie art festival
>shooting is literally "press x to win" with enemies whose AI is easily abused
>multiple game mechanics were removed because Naughty Dog were idiots who couldn't program properly, for example Ellie being invisible to all enemies because her being a target would've made it too videogamey, and not cinematic enough
>online is literally pay2win, as you can buy your way with hundreds of dollars of super duper weapons
>online multiplayer is just call of duty with more chest high walls to duck behind

What are you smoking anon to think that this "thing" deserves anything above a 4/10? Zelda I can see the praise, since /v/ has a thing for crossdressing gay ladyboys, but TLOU has none of that defending it. It is a terrible game, a pathetic "story" and a poorly paced """experience""". It is the definition of mediocrity paid for by reviews.

>>379225570
Why does /v/ dickride Bloodborne so hard?

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>>379225808
You guys are precious.

Also, what the fuck captcha.

>>379224021
What makes this poor looking game a 10/10 when the Witcher 3 is a 9/10? Makes you think.

>>379223719
where did the ingame nintendo switch shirt come from?

>>379226148
This is gay bait.

>>379226148
as far as vidya goes, it's about as good a story as you'll get.

>>379226236
Diehard Souls fans/thirsty PS4 owners

Are people STILL salty about BotW?
Jesus Christ get over it, you got blown out.

>>379226258
>if there are none click skip
is it too hard to read?

>>379226236
It was the only good game for PS4 for a very long time.

>>379224021
Right button, because TLOU is also good.

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>>379223719

>>379226410

I've seen Mario games with better plot and pacing and consistency, but then again Mario is known for his GAMEPLAY, so the story doesn't constantly shove its testicles in your face as if it didn't stink of unwashed pleb normie taste. Infact, any given Mario RPG has more likable characters and a more consistent plot than even the most high budgeted sony cinematic simulator, and you can quote me on that.

>>379226740
alright I don't like TLoU either but you're trying too hard

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>>379226730

>>379225401
>>379225489

It still looks like shit.

>Nintendo announces a Majoras Mask type sequel to BoTW, only its in reverse and the game has 8 dungeons like OOT did
>out next March
yay or nay?

>>379226612
Yeah.

>>379226807

Trying too hard? Son, let me tell you what's "trying too hard"; a game where a little defenseless girl is blatantly marketed as this "wonderful feminist icon" but in reality she's nothing more than braindead tumblr fodder who, ingame, acts as an unkillable, constant escort mission. And those aren't fun, so having one drag behind you the entire game would unsurprisingly be a massive bummer. But she's gotta be there for MUH STORY and MUH CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

>>379224021
ill pick neither.

the second button is a strawman.

>>379226381
You had to preorder the DLC season pass, I think.

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>>379226857
your opinion is shit, my mang.

People still pretend Witcher 3 is worth making threads about in 2017 as well, usually 4k screenshots that don't really look all that good but they think they do because they spent a lot on the PC making them

get used to it, open world games attract years of autism somehow

>>379227047
you've obviously never played it for even a minute, you're just making an ass of yourself

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post comfy botw pics.

>>379227160

How is it a strawman? If Zelda had only gotten a 90 or so, people would be up in arms about how "the stupid industry doesn't understand Nintendo's vision, they're all paid off by Sony." I kinda wish that happened, so we could discuss BOTW without people calling everyone "salty" for not agreeing with idiotic gaming journalists like Kotaku or Gamespot. but we unironically have people shilling for Patricia Hernandez because of it.

Thank goodness that fat idiot Jim Sterling gave it a 7, otherwise people would be praising him too.

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>>379223719
people beat it 3 hours after it was leaked a week ahead of retail.

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>>379227334

Never played it? The hell kind of strawman is that? Does that magically nullify any of the criticism I've lobbed against it? How about the fact that I actually own a copy of the game and have first hand tried to suffer through it?

Or are you just a marketer on overtime? Hard to tell the difference.

>>379227459
yeah and they had 50 deaths and argued ganon being that hard at the outset like that was bad game design

i remember those threads too

I clicked on this thread for lewd zeldas
You disappointed me, /v/

>>379227372
>>379227472

What was the most comfy non-Hateno village for you guys?

>>379227224
hmmm

>>379227386
7 is a fair score though.

>>379223719
>We've all beaten the game 4 months ago
So.. what? Why does that matter at all exactly?
This shitty "HAHA YOU'RE GETTING/PLAYING THIS GAME X TIME AFTER Y, IT'S SO FUNNY!" meme needs to die.

>>379227663

The massive DDOS attack on his website after he gave that score would argue otherwise.

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>>379223719
> 4 months

OP, BotW came out in March (that's the 3rd month of the year), and it's now June (the 6th month). Therefore, it's only been 3 months, not 4, since BotW was released.

Can you not do basic arithmetic or something?

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>>379224021

Well, these are my two favorite games this decade, so go fuck yourself.

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>>379227242
Your FACE is shit!

>>379227627
The last time I posted the studiofow pics of Zelda I was ban for a week so fuck you and post your own!

>>379227745
it wouldn't surprise me if he DDoS'd himself for attention, this is a man who fabricates drama for clicks afterall.

>>379226258
It's clearly the the three in the bottom-right, it's the inside of the car.

>>379227745
Not my fault insane people exist, 7 is still fair.

>>379224140
This.

>>379226410
Completely fucking wrong.

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>>379227749

>cinematic experiences
>games

Hey, you're more than entitled to your opinion, but I'm just saying. Use the proper terminology next time.

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>>379226410

>TLOU best story vidya got

Where you born in 2001? Planescape, the answer is planescape retard.

Post cute Zeldas. Preferably of her studying or researching stuff.

>>379227629
this pic is the comfiest IMO.
>>379225401

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>>379224021
One gets praised for its story and the other one gets praised for the gameplay

I love the game but do you have to be such a twat OP?

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Wish Nintendo would just go third party and develop for PC already. So tired of their ultra-jewish business practices and garbage-tier consoles. Thank God I stopped at the 3DSxl.

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>>379228072

I'm sorry, what?

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>>379227917

>BotW
>150+ of gameplay, with just a few scenes scattered all around one of the most extense worlds ever created
>cinematic experience

Way to show you're an inbred faggot.

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>>379228072
>"The best Zelda there's ever been, and very possibility the video game ever made."

Hyperbole MUH

>>379223719
>Zelda wearing a bikini bottom instead of nothing underneath
Image ruined

>>379228210
Switch is probably my fav console in a long long time, being able to take it out and plop it back into the TV is awesome, shit I used to dream about while playing Gameboy games, when I thought a Super Gameboy type thing would be standardized across all Nintendo consoles

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>>379228456

>game has 2 hours of cutscenes and several more hours of useless text to read through
>"but the game has alot of gameplay"
>so why not remove the story and let me experience more gameplay
>"THAT WOULD RUIN THE GAME REEE"

Interesting. So for some reason the game absolutely needs the story, and it needs to run at 30 FPS, and it needs the voice acting? Even though the gameplay is supposedly so good? Sounds fishy.

why is this Zelda so hot?

>>379228210
Sorry that not everyone is stuck in the prestigious 144fps 8k resolution race.

>>379228683
do you need a hat for that strawman?

>>379224021
How about journos accept bribes for good reviews.

>>379228762

No, but I do need a reason for there to have so much cancerous plot when the game should suffice without it.

>b-but it gives the game context
that's something the gameplay should be giving. Why do we need a cinematic crutch?

>>379228690
She is white and perfect just like the girls in BLACKED.com

>>379228683
>writing imaginary arguments with the other person where they inevitably go FULL CAPITAL LETTERS I AM SILLY REEEEE at the end
Why do people do this

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>/v/ is still butthurt about BotW

>>379224194
Not really. You'll constantly see "OPEN WORLD DONE RIGHT" thrown around but it's by the usual suspects so just ignore it. The game feels kind of inventive and fresh for a bit but if you don't go to the final boss after a few hours something will click in your brain and you'll realize that you're just doing the same thing over and over again. If you started noticing skyrim's Nord dungeon->Fight draugr->Word wall loop, it's the exact same feeling (except where skyrim's combat was just shit enough to be a failure, zelda's combat is just good enough to be passable)

>>379228683
fuck off ACfag

Uhh unless you have all 900 korok seeds you haven't beaten the game

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>>379226410
>as far as vidya goes, it's about as good a story as you'll get.

@379228923
>cancerous plot
what makes it cancerous?
>cinematic
fuck off ACfag I almost replied seriously

>>379229021
That's not a game anon, that's a job.

>>379226410
TLoU story is by-the-numbers zombie shit. How in the absolute fuck can you possibly see it as the best story in any video game ever released?

>>379229139
that's not what I said and you're a retard for thinking so

>>379229115

>what makes it cancerous?
I think one major problem is that they try and push all the women as strong and independent, but they don't want to actually commit to it, so you have scenes where Zelda breaks down and cries like a baby, like she's guest starring in an episode of steven universe. I mean, who the hell plays video games for emotional filler? If Zelda truly had good gameplay, scenes like that wouldn't exist period. It's nothing more than bait for the tumblr crowd who thinks games need to be more "artistic". Being optional doesn't nullify the fact that it's a punishment for exploring. You're actively punished with cinematic slop for playing the game the way it wants you to, and to avoid it you have to rush right to ganon and never explore once, lest you trip one of these story laden landmines.

It's the exact same as TLOU, except with less corridors.

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>>379229558
this is the most stupid bullshit I've read in this website in over nine years.

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>>379223719
I beat the game and collect all the memories, still playing it, so much fucking fun.

also I'm in love with Zelda

>>379229681

That's because you've been brainwashed by the (((industry))) to think that games need to evolve from their "evil videogamey ways" and that they need more story. If you think Zelda has such good gameplay, then you would gladly agree with me to get rid of the cinematic cancer.

Remember, the industry is video GAMES, not video movies.

>>379228746
It's not only performance. It's also the awful systems, the shop.. the lack of a global account that should have been there since the Wii.

I mean, I knew what I went into with the 3DS, but in the end it was the lack of proper games for the system that made me sell it. Sure it was fun to play the occasional older gameboy title, but you can't justify a new console with only nostalgic emulated titles (that aren't even cross platform, great job Nintendo).

Guardians are cute! I want to hug a Guardian!

>>379229853
you're so desperate to find a flaw, any flaw with the game, you're not even thinking straight.

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>>379229558

>if Zelda had good gameplay, there wouldn't be cutscenes
>having story cutscenes in a game is a punishment for playing the game

Are you alright?
Do you have brain damage?

>>379228278
>cherry picking

We all know TLoU is nothing without the story. Gameplay is generic as fuck and the AI (both ally and enemy) is complete shit, everybody knows this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF0EaH73ee4

>>379229558
Ignoring entirely that said cutscenes are completely optional except for the ones seen at the dungeons, which at that point, you're hunting for it specifically.

>>379229558
I want you to save this post and read it back to yourself 10 years from now
you'll have a good laugh once you grow out of /pol/
while you're at it save the post that's gonna be the reply to this one too
it'll probably be just as funny

>>379229853
just fuck off retard, you're not even making any sense anymore

>>379229940
>We all know

Go fuck yourself

>>379229935
>>379229936
>>379229942
>>379229972
>>379229975

I want you to tell me that I'm wrong, and then explain why. A game with good gameplay does NOT need excessive story, optional or no. If you "need a reason to play it" then the game isn't good.

>>379229940

And yet they all praised the gameplay. Are you saying game journos have bad taste? whoa, news to me.

>>379230110
>And yet they all praised the gameplay. Are you saying game journos have bad taste? whoa, news to me.

What are you trying to prove here?

>people are actually responding seriously to ACfag
fuck this board

>>379230110
Why'd you quote me with the guy you're arguing with?

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>>379230110
kill yourself.

>>379230168

>What are you trying to prove here?
That game journos praised TLOU's everything, from story to gameplay. If TLOU has bad gameplay, then that means the reviewers are wrong, they have bad taste, they're paid off, take your pick of any reason.

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this thread

>>379230110
>gameplay is bad because there is a story at all

>>379224021
button A

Still enjoyed botw tho

>>379230110
> praising tlpu gameplay
(you)

>>379229940
>even the gameplay demos are bullshit

Naughty Dog is a piece of shit developer.

>>379230402
>this anon has really fallen for the all or nothing meme
yeah, you aint too bright

>>379230447

>gameplay is good
>but you can't remove the story, because the game is so boring without it

What did anon mean by this.

>>379226863
>Majoras Mask type sequel to BoTW
yea
>reverse and the game has 8 dungeons like OOT did
maybe
>out next March
nay

>>379230589
reused assets just like MM

>>379224021
Is it bad I liked both The Last of Us and Breath of the Wild?

>>379230545

Would you care to enlighten me with some game journo reviews then? Perhaps point to me where I misunderstood such "saints" like Jim Sterling and his praise of Horizon and Uncharted? Maybe I'm missing something from his "unrivaled genius" as you'd put it?

I mean, it's not like these people are pretentious hipsters who would rtaher have games be non-interactive 60 dollar movies.

I was going from Hateno village roleplaying that Link was out on a picknick when all of a sudden bokoblins came and fucked him and made him wear girl clothesIt was FUCKING hotI'm sick and lonely

>>379230713
No unless you are a journalists, critic, reviewer or gamer.

>>379230658
Yo imagine a BotW that was completely filled with narratively intense sidequests and story. But the trade off is you need help with scavenging because your character is a pampered doughboy.

Post some comfy BotW music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47_nj0FBBiU

>>379230713
>Liking two video games

Get a load of this guy

>>379230713
I honestly enjoyed TLoU when it came out, but after playing Zelda on the Switch I realized what a fucking videogame is supposed to be, to me it's on a whole other level. The industry needs more things like BotW and less like TLoU.

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Not even mad OP, but tell me how much fun your 300 dollar chink toy is after it served its one purpose

>>379231081
cemu

>>379231081
Wat

>>379229940
>all gameplay videos were scripted

Somehow this isn't surprising, what's surprising is that journalists didn't realize this and thought the AI was actually good.

>>379231081
Nani

>>379231081
>its one purpose
playing games? it still serves that purpose

>>379231548
I'm currently playing Shovel Knight and enjoying it :)

>>379225965
because botw is the goat

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>>379231548

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>>379231548

>nintennnigger

Did you really just use that as an insult? Yeesh, I dislike the Switch and Zelda, but you don't see me resorting to words that a 12 year old would make up.

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>>379227624
what are things that never happened?

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>>379231723
you're getting memed on by fellow niteniggers attempt to make detractors look bad.

You're both retarded ninteniggers.

>>379230560
>because the game is so boring without it
Not automatically terrible, but worse off for sure.
By your logic, every game should look like https://youtu.be/SuDqvBS5b2A because having good graphics isn't necessary for the gameplay to be good.

Having a bit of story can make the gameplay better because it gives weight and reason to what you're doing, besides it just being fun to do.

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>>379231909

The hell? How am I a "nintennigger"? I'm criticizing one of their highest praised games and going against all opposition to do so.

>>379232126

>because having good graphics isn't necessary for the gameplay to be good.
See pic related. you don't need anything but the barebones in terms of graphics, story and music. What matters is the gameplay, and the better it is, the less crutches you need. And would you look at that, the extremely low costs allow the developer to release the game for free, AND release 10 years of free content in a steady stream, while Zelda wasted its budget and, despite supposedly selling alot, it needs to charge hundreds of dollars for DLC.

So as a person who enjoys gameplay and a paying customer, one of these just has more to offer.

>>379232313
Do you really think that releasing only super complex, minimalist games is 1) a viable way to make money, 2) going to appeal to all but an extremely niche market or 3) going to work to create a long-term industry without people getting tired of looking at the same thing? I don't think so, there are plenty of more ways to have fun with games than deep gameplay.
And you don't need to completely abandon creating fun scenarios/events, or having an artistic vision in regards to the visual style or message to still have complex and deep gameplay.

I agree with you that Nintendo were probably very inefficient in the development of BotW, in that they could have created a game just as good if not better in much less time if they wanted, but saying that dwarf fortress is the only good model for how a game should be made is just ridiculous. Ask 99% of people which they would rather play: Dwarf Fortress, or BotW/TLoU/whatever else.

>>379223719
When will /v/ stop being ass blasted about this game?

>>379233125

>1) a viable way to make money,
Why do ALL games need to be about money? Letting that get in the way of quality just seems like a bad decision.

>2) going to appeal to all but an extremely niche market
Could've easily marketed to the minecraft crowd. 150 million willing people doesn't sound bad.

>3) going to work to create a long-term industry without people getting tired of looking at the same thing?
That's why, whenever you introduce a new element, it directly makes the game better. None of this cinematic trash.

>but saying that dwarf fortress is the only good model for how a game should be made is just ridiculous.
It's a damn good model of how you should emphasize gameplay above all else.

>Ask 99% of people which they would rather play: Dwarf Fortress, or BotW/TLoU/whatever else.
If they're not fans of Zelda, many of them would choose TLOU. But again, popularity isn't an indicator of quality.

Anyone know how to fix the 20 fps lock on BOTW? I have a 6700k and 16gb ddr4

>>379233783
Yeah, don't play it on CEMU.

>>379234285
I finished it, the shrines and all the side-quests on the Switch, I want to try emulating it

>>379227629
Rito and Lurelin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UydWbM6IIgs

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>>379233554
>why do all games need to be about money
Jesus christ do you not understand how this planet functions or what? Is it really that complex?

>>379229936
Don't reply to ACfag

>>379234620

>literally posted an example where a guy made a game for free with his own time and money and did it because he loved video games
>this is somehow a bad thing
>everything needs to be about money

Okay (((anon))) whatever you say.

>>379235013
You're implying that a game the has more funding is gonna be worse than dwarf fortress, because it "getting in the way" that's retarded and you're retarded. Go back to your little communist basement and circle jerk the common man somewhere else

>>379227459
>speedrunning a new game on purpose to pretend it doesn't have any content.
Ha I only spent 20 seconds looking at the box at gamestop, no content fucking waste of my time lmao.

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>OP is faggot with a victim complex
again

>>379235321

I'm implying that wasting your budget on anything but gameplay is a bad idea. Sure you'll sell to the normies, but is that how you want to measure something's quality? Do you really want to be the next call of duty?

>>379229558
Are you seriously giving the game shit for not being as feminist as you thought it might be

>>379229853
Or anything else.

>>379235530
>do you really want to be financially successful?
no, not at all, I love when my studios go under because of lack of money, I ADORE the fact that the late Kenji Eno my favorite game designer never had a chance to fulfill his vision because of budget constraints
>b-b-b-but some autist made Dwarf Fortress! we don't need an industry
fucking moron

>>379230560
So any game that has any story isn't good because the only reason to have a story in your game is to cover up how bad the game is, is what you're saying?

>>379235530
Zelda has always had a story. It colors the gameplay by making it feel like a significant legend. I don't assume you hold other games to this standard.

Is there a name for this kind of picture where a girl uses her shirt to cover her panties/nudeness? Honestly a huge turn on for me but it's hard to search up pictures.

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>>379224021
What happens if I push both buttons at the same time?

>>379235530
>normies
Newfag ahoy
Story driven games equals Cod? I hate to break this to you anon but Cod focuses on gameplay over everything else, even if it is shit

>>379235625

I'm giving it trouble because it wasted my time, and made me want to avoid exploration because of the dumb memories. When an open world game makes me hate exploration, thgen it has failed miserably.

>no, not at all, I love when my studios go under because of lack of money
And whose fault is that for wasting money on voice acting and fancy CGI graphics?

>>379236026
>>379235843

A game at most needs backstory or maybe some plot in the manual. It shouldn't need hours of cutscenes. many games have gotten by without so much as a word spoken, because they understand minimalist game design.

>I don't assume you hold other games to this standard.
I hold many of them to this standard. Now, because we've yet to make a game that has zero dialogue or any cutscenes, I don't consider any games to be 10/10, but the closer a game gets, the better.

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>>379223719
Pic related is the superior "muh open world" Zelda

the GOAT Zelda goes to either MM or OoT though

>>379236397
lol no BotW shits all over every other Zelda game, only nostalgiafaggots and desperate contrarians disagree
>hurr maybe if I overrate this garbage I'll be a snowflake

>>379236235

>I hate to break this to you anon but Cod focuses on gameplay over everything else,
Is that why it's always broken and needs a mandatory 5 DLC packs just to be playable? Not to mention the countless framerate drops, unskippable cutscenes, quick time events, and the major budget they spend on advertising instead of fixing the damn game.

>>379236315
voice acting and fancy cgi graphics sell games you fucking moron, they're production values people have come to expect with time.

>>379236497
it's very good but personally I think it has some flaws that put it behing the greatness of OoT and MM, two of them being: a) Triforce Quest and b) Lack of Dungeons to make it last long enough

But I guess devs didn't agree with the last part and didn't change a thing in the HD remake

>>379236397
>menu
>windwaker
>play the song
>sit still for two minutes, maybe jump over a shark
>as opposed to just walking somewhere
I guess if you want something "comfy" go wild

>>379223719
I want to do lewd things to this elf.

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>>379236497
>lol no BotW shits all over every other Zelda game
>BotWfags actually believe this
You fags are barely three months old and you're the shittiest LoZ fanbase

>>379223796
fpbp

>>379236761
success breeds jealousy, cuck, go play your objectively inferior experiences

>>379224021
click the first button since both those games were shit

>>379236547
>>>>>even if it is shit
learn to read my guy
>>379236315
>every game that has story is bad, because muh minimalism
good lord why do fedoras like you even exist. Certain game are made with story, and cut scenes in mind. That doesn't make them bad
Is MGS a bad series because of it's story? No, it's some of the best parts. You're grasping at straws because you went full redpill, and don't want to admit your opinion is shit.

>>379236571

>voice acting and fancy cgi graphics sell games you fucking moron,
that's the AAA mindset tainting your vision. They're no more necessary than famous celebrity voice actors.

>>379236938

>>>>>even if it is shit
How can it focus on gameplay if it's "shit"? Certainly they would've taken the time to make it NOT shit?

>Certain game are made with story, and cut scenes in mind.
yes, and we rightfully label them as cinematic experiences.

>Is MGS a bad series because of it's story?
Well, a video GAMe with 8+ hours of cutscenes isn't exactly something I'd buy, even out of the bargain bin.

>>379236315
>Now, because we've yet to make a game that has zero dialogue or any cutscenes,
Tetris you mong. Connect Four. Centipede. Tic Tac Toe. Baseball. Skee Ball. Sports Games. Online Shooters. MOBAs. Asteroids. Mario Kart. Rocket League. Most every multiplayer game. Super Mario. Racing games.

You pretend to have discerning tastes by holding games to an impossible standard that you fail to realize is achieved constantly. If you seriously threw a fit every time you were treated to a 45 second cutscene for finding a memory, or the less than ten minutes of cutscene per area, then that's understandable, but you should learn to just say you hate unskippable cutscenes instead of inflating it into this big idea that the existence of cutscenes is proof that the game is broken.

And if you were so frustrated by these momentary cutscenes, then you clearly enjoyed the game enough to miss it when they weren't playing, so I don't know why you're pretending the gameplay is so broken that they were trying to cover it up with the least amount of cutscenes in a zelda game this last two decades.

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>>379236823
On what grounds? Twilight Princess, WW, Link to the Past, A Lind Between Worlds, Majora's Mask. all better games. Sales? Fuck no, OOT and Twilight Princess are still at the top with no threat of being eclipsed

>>379237462

Those are all great games. Every single one a solid 9/10. But they have small flaws, and occasionally do have small boring cutscenes which wouldn't be a problem, but half the time yuou can't skip them. Like with Mario, where you don't really care that Peach has been kidnapped, but every castle you have to watch that scene, you know, where they say "go to another castle" or "watch the princess get thrown to another world". It's boring after a while. And boredom can get irksome in a game.

>And if you were so frustrated by these momentary cutscenes, then you clearly enjoyed the game enough to miss it when they weren't playing,
Sadly I didn't. There was no meat to the game, I didn't care about the combat, I didn't care about finding items, I don't want to find korok seeds since they make you overpowered and give you way more inventory than you need once you trade em in. You have to rush to ganon on every playthrough or you just become way too powerful. I'm supposed to give this a pass though, because "Zelda is teh hotness and there are tits". That's what I don't like.

>>379237261
>I wouldn't buy it so it's shit
Don't worry your edgy phase will wear off soon. Until then enjoy your 15 year old shit "game" Because I agree that gameplay matters when that is the main focus of the game. But if they are focusing on telling a story then the story matters the most. I don't care about your stupid definition of what a game is you entitled prick
>"a game played by electronically manipulating images produced by a computer program on a television screen or other display screen."
that is the definition of a videogame, so a game like heavy rain where you have minimal control of your character, but is story driven is still a game.

>>379237951

>But if they are focusing on telling a story then they should go make a book or a movie

Fixed that for you.

>so a game like heavy rain where you have minimal control of your character, but is story driven is still a game.
It's the same metric you'd use to consider a DVD of a movie to be a game. You technically control it, but it's a terrible game because it pretty much scoffs at the medium in question, not even bothering to utilize it in its entirety.

>>379237874
Okay so you really didn't like the gameplay or the lack of interesting goals in the world, most likely due to that you don't find these little cutscenes or interesting little places to be a reward, you seem to be more interested in being rewarded based on gameplay skill. That makes more sense than 'a game can't be good if it has any cutscenes'.

Zelda simply has a story that informs it's gameplay. If you don't enjoy that then I understand why most of Zelda is ineffectual to you.

>>379238189
>not even bothering to utilize it in its entirety.
There are other things to do with a medium than minmax it.

>>379238295

That's more or less it.

>>379238382

>There are other things to do with a medium than minmax it.
When you do ANYTHING with a medium, the last thing you want to do is neglect the star of the show.

>>379238492
You can have a show with many stars.

>>379223719
>tfw you will never have this body type
Why even live

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>>379224021
Every single faggot who screams MUH CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE should play TLoU on Grounded, shit becomes a legit great game

>>379223719
I only know, that your picture makes me sad
>that moment, when you will never have a cute girlfriend, who will dress up like this

>>379238189
I'm trying to argue with you the best I can, but everything you are saying is literally not making any sense. It's like talking to cthulhu. The argument you are making don't have any validity to them. You don't have any control in movies. You have some kind of interaction with the game. You don't just push one button then watch for 3 hours like a movie.
>If you want to tell a story then just make a book or a movie
Thats like saying. "I want to draw a picture of a chair." "well then why don't you just build a chair instead?"
I understand that you aren't a troll because you would have left or stared mocking me to trying to talk to you. But your logic isn't making any sense at all.

>>379238565

I don't go to Romeo and Juliet to watch the adventures of random background actor #46. There's kind of an important group that makes or breaks the show.

>>379224194

probably not

I haven't gotten far in BOTW but I liked what I did play. Granted for me it was all about just gettin lost in the wild and messing with random tribes of moblins I'd run into or doing the occasional shrine I come across. Maybe even hanging out in a small town or two. Any time I feel myself getting dragged back to the story I lose interest fast.

>>379238714

TLOU is a solid 8/10 but you can't say that because half the internet will skin you alive for implying the godking of cinematic experiences is anything other than a masterpiece and the other half will skin you alive for implying the shitheap of a walking sim is anything other but a pile of garbage.

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>>379238809

>You don't just push one button then watch for 3 hours like a movie.
Hah hah hah. I assume you don't have a Ps4 then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efZ0n2jpPJw

>"I want to draw a picture of a chair." "well then why don't you just build a chair instead?"
It's more like "I want to draw a picture of a chair, which I will then advertise as a chair that you can sit on, while failing to mention that a 2D drawn image is incapable of holding weight in a 3 dimensional space."

>But your logic isn't making any sense at all.
Perhaps it would be easier for me to just say that I hate the AAA mainstream and how its focus has become on style over substance, and even Zelda thinks that we need voice acting and DLC over 60 FPS and a hard mode being in the base game.

I'm not paying $400 to a scalper piece of shit for the Switch alone.

What do I lose if I just go for the Wii U version? Portability doesn't mean shit to me btw.

>>379238832
Well if you're saying extras are irrelevant to a stage performance then I insist you're blind to what a play is.

>>379238832
Yeah but not every play is Romeo, and Juliette. If you go Macbeth and complain about this not being Romeo you don't even know what the play is then.
Not every play is the same
Not every game is the same
It's as simple as that, just go to the ones you want to see, and ignore the others, and stop saying how they are bad because they aren't like the play you want.

>>379239182

Romeo and Juliet would be a better production with at least 50% of the actors cut. Every time I saw or read through it, it felt like a chore because for some reason half the irrelevant cast had some dumb thing to say.

>>379239201

I'm not trying to say that one play or game is objectively bad, but rather that they falter to issues and would be better without them.

>>379239370
This nigga thinks he's Shakespeare

I love it. Fuck you guys.

>>379239118
You lose like 2 fps in some areas, also 720p instead of 900p (docked). Oddly the Wii U version performs better in some areas. Digital Foundry said the framerate is almost a wash but Switch usually comes out ahead.

Absolutely no reason to buy a Switch right now if you have a Wii U, the only two games worth owning on it are both ports.

>>379239787
>>379239118
Yeah if you have a Wii U and not a Switch, then get it for that.

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>no more HSotD because the writer is dead
feels mad man

triggered